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Posted by Captivate86
I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”





I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.





Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄



The double standard is alive and well.



Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expand



so if a guy give you a cunnilingus the first date, u date him ?

no judgement zone, doing my homework rn could give more f
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I had a Cap Male friend show interest in me. It wasn't vibing because he had told me as friends that he eat a stripper out and paid for it. I was outraged! She shoulda paid him! He didn't vibe like a "protector." Instead, he vibed like he needed protecting... protection from getting shitted.
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Issa damn shame other dudes ruin it for the rest of us. nowadays it's so hard to be authentic cause 1, it makes you vulnerable, 2 everyone and their mama has trust issues. lmaoo









A very true statement. And I think the same could be said for women.







I don’t tout my sexuality as a tool for manipulation. I think because some men have been burned that way, they think all women who are sexual have an ulterior motive.







It sucks, but the only way we can start the shift is by being more open with communication and being ourselves.







So, my fellow single people, have dialogues. Open and honest dialogues.







I'm glad you created this topic. It may be an end to the website's "Help [Insert Sign]..." topics.


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Thank you! I’m glad I did too...I’ve really gained a lot from it so far. I’m at this place in my life where I want to challenge core beliefs and truly be open to learning about other perspectives.



I love hearing what other people have learned from their life experiences.






Don't count us married (or divorced women) out. We could tell some stories... I try not to TMI but, geez. This site needs to get real. click to expand
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No, I appreciate everyone’s input...single or married. What I meant was as far as applying the insights of what we’re learning here, was directed at single people.
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Posted by DeadInside
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Posted by Captivate86
I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”







I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.







Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄





The double standard is alive and well.





Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expand





so if a guy give you a cunnilingus the first date, u date him ?



no judgement zone, doing my homework rn could give more f



I had a Cap Male friend show interest in me. It wasn't vibing because he had told me as friends that he eat a stripper out and paid for it. I was outraged! She shoulda paid him! He didn't vibe like a "protector." Instead, he vibed like he needed protecting... protection from getting butterted.
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😳 It’s crazy that you mention that. The Capricorn guy I went on a date with told me he once dated a stripper when he was much younger and that he was almost going to marry her.

After he started acting distant, all I could think was, “Geez, he wanted to marry a stripper...and here I am with my post-graduate education and all I get is detachment after touching his leg and kissing him. Awesome sauce.”

No offense to anyone who is a stripper, if there are any. My ego was bruised and I was trying to make sense of things. All good people, strippers or not, deserve to be loved.
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Posted by Captivate86
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Posted by DeadInside
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Posted by Captivate86
I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”









I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.









Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄







The double standard is alive and well.







Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expand







so if a guy give you a cunnilingus the first date, u date him ?





no judgement zone, doing my homework rn could give more f





I had a Cap Male friend show interest in me. It wasn't vibing because he had told me as friends that he eat a stripper out and paid for it. I was outraged! She shoulda paid him! He didn't vibe like a "protector." Instead, he vibed like he needed protecting... protection from getting butterted.

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😳 It’s crazy that you mention that. The Capricorn guy I went on a date with told me he once dated a stripper when he was much younger and that he was almost going to marry her.

After he started acting distant, all I could think was, “Geez, he wanted to marry a stripper...and here I am with my post-graduate education and all I get is detachment after touching his leg and kissing him. Awesome sauce.”

No offense to anyone who is a stripper, if there are any. My ego was bruised and I was trying to make sense of things. All good people, strippers or not, deserve to be loved.
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Yes, no offense to strippers. One of my bestfriends was a stripper and she was married. I miss her very much.

I think the Cap might be "trained," "conditioned" towards certain types of experiences. Just like computer porn does to some. Just be glad it didn't go further. I had a Cap friend who didn't have sex for a year call me crying when she saw her husband masturbating in the shower. Her pain made me want to vomit.
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Posted by Captivate86
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Posted by DeadInside
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Posted by Captivate86
I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”









I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.









Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄







The double standard is alive and well.







Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expand







so if a guy give you a cunnilingus the first date, u date him ?





no judgement zone, doing my homework rn could give more f





I had a Cap Male friend show interest in me. It wasn't vibing because he had told me as friends that he eat a stripper out and paid for it. I was outraged! She shoulda paid him! He didn't vibe like a "protector." Instead, he vibed like he needed protecting... protection from getting butterted.

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😳 It’s crazy that you mention that. The Capricorn guy I went on a date with told me he once dated a stripper when he was much younger and that he was almost going to marry her.

After he started acting distant, all I could think was, “Geez, he wanted to marry a stripper...and here I am with my post-graduate education and all I get is detachment after touching his leg and kissing him. Awesome sauce.”

No offense to anyone who is a stripper, if there are any. My ego was bruised and I was trying to make sense of things. All good people, strippers or not, deserve to be loved.
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Does he have Venus in Aqua?
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Posted by Captivate86
I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”











I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.











Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄









The double standard is alive and well.









Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expand









so if a guy give you a cunnilingus the first date, u date him ?







no judgement zone, doing my homework rn could give more f







I had a Cap Male friend show interest in me. It wasn't vibing because he had told me as friends that he eat a stripper out and paid for it. I was outraged! She shoulda paid him! He didn't vibe like a "protector." Instead, he vibed like he needed protecting... protection from getting butterted.


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😳 It’s crazy that you mention that. The Capricorn guy I went on a date with told me he once dated a stripper when he was much younger and that he was almost going to marry her.



After he started acting distant, all I could think was, “Geez, he wanted to marry a stripper...and here I am with my post-graduate education and all I get is detachment after touching his leg and kissing him. Awesome sauce.”



No offense to anyone who is a stripper, if there are any. My ego was bruised and I was trying to make sense of things. All good people, strippers or not, deserve to be loved.



Does he have Venus in Aqua? click to expand
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I have no idea. Would that indicate something in particular? Teach me, please!
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Posted by Captivate86
I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”













I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.













Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄











The double standard is alive and well.











Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expand











so if a guy give you a cunnilingus the first date, u date him ?









no judgement zone, doing my homework rn could give more f









I had a Cap Male friend show interest in me. It wasn't vibing because he had told me as friends that he eat a stripper out and paid for it. I was outraged! She shoulda paid him! He didn't vibe like a "protector." Instead, he vibed like he needed protecting... protection from getting butterted.



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😳 It’s crazy that you mention that. The Capricorn guy I went on a date with told me he once dated a stripper when he was much younger and that he was almost going to marry her.





After he started acting distant, all I could think was, “Geez, he wanted to marry a stripper...and here I am with my post-graduate education and all I get is detachment after touching his leg and kissing him. Awesome sauce.”





No offense to anyone who is a stripper, if there are any. My ego was bruised and I was trying to make sense of things. All good people, strippers or not, deserve to be loved.





Does he have Venus in Aqua? click to expand



I have no idea. Would that indicate something in particular? Teach me, please!
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You'd have to know his place and time of birth. Venus in Aquas tend to like the extraordinary, perverse... some more than others, to each their own special brand of freak. We're hard nuts to crack.

Edit: most often, the place of birth is enough.
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Posted by Captivate86
I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”





I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.





Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄



The double standard is alive and well.



Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expand



so if a guy give you a cunnilingus the first date, u date him ?

no judgement zone, doing my homework rn could give more f click to expand
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Actually, if he's not giving then I'm the one judging,...hard.
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Posted by Captivate86
Since we are all afforded anonymity on here, I want to ask something in hopes that men will be completely honest in their answer.

My question is: Does a woman’s sleeping with you(having sex with you) on the first date affect how you see her as a person?
My (now) ex boyfriend told me after we started officially dating that he was glad I didn't sleep with him on the first date, even though he wanted to.

I got super pissed and asked if it would have changed his opinion of me if we had, even though he was the one that initiated.

His response has always stuck with me..

He basically said no, it wouldn't have affected his opinion of me or how much he liked me. But it (probably) would have affected how much he *showed* me that he liked me as well as the pace of our relationship. He said he probably eould have held back and played it cool. Because guys fear vulnerability and being used/taken advantage of just like women do.

Granted, we were both in our early 20's, so age, experience, and maturity probably coloured his response and have a lot to do with everyone's view.
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I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”





I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.





Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄



The double standard is alive and well.



Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expand



You hit the nail on the head. He’s known for being a cad.

So, I asked him, “If the thought of a woman having sex with you on a first date, to include oral, is so off-putting, then that means you didn’t let her, right?” His response was, “I’m a guy. Of course I let her. She just can’t expect for me to respect her or see her seriously.”

Then I asked him, “What if she performed really well and gave you an experience unlike any other? Would that make you reconsider?”

He said: “Hell no. She didn’t get that good by having a natural talent for it. She had to practice. How much practice? I don’t even want to know.”

I explained to him that I’ve been considered an amazing lover by the people I’ve been with, which aren’t many. That my sexuality is actually very natural, but technique, I learned it from porn.(Please don’t judge me) Infused with my own imagination, of course.

He said that would be an exception, but that he thinks that would be rare. I don’t agree. I think there are probably a lot of women like me. click to expand
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Its one thing to be more conservative and want a partner who feels the same. Personally I'm not one to fuck someone the first 24hrs. But I got mad control issues.

Thing is he's doing the same shit he's judging so harshly. Miss me with that 1950s mentality. K, thanks.
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Posted by Lioness18881
I don't think you can judge how easy someone is based on that. If i really like someone, i sleep with them on the first date. If i don't, I'm not interested in a 2nd date or 3rd date. In the las 10 years, I've only slept with 3. So just because someone holds off for a few dates, doesn't mean they don't sleep with heaps of guys and just because someone does sleep with you on the first date, doesn't mean they do.

When there's heaps of gap between you and the last one, a girl is going to find it harder to hold off than one who has another guy on the side.
Yes! Another good point. There was a girl I went to high school with that would try to make herself out to be the portrait of purity, even going as far as wearing a purity ring and claiming to her high school boyfriend that she was waiting to have sex until they married.

Only...one day I went to hang out with my best friend and her boyfriend...he was from a seedy area of town. Long story short: two of his friends, gangster-looking guys, said they had run a train on that girl and that she was known for giving the best head.

So, while I hate to feed into the already-present trust issues among many of us...sometimes it’s with good reason. Gentlemen...just because she gives up the goods on the first date, doesn’t mean she’s a hoe. And just because she doesn’t put out on the first date, doesn’t mean she’s a saint. She might be like Lauren, and getting a train run on her after you all’s dry date. Dated responsibly, my friends.
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Posted by Lioness18881
I don't think you can judge how easy someone is based on that. If i really like someone, i sleep with them on the first date. If i don't, I'm not interested in a 2nd date or 3rd date. In the las 10 years, I've only slept with 3. So just because someone holds off for a few dates, doesn't mean they don't sleep with heaps of guys and just because someone does sleep with you on the first date, doesn't mean they do.

When there's heaps of gap between you and the last one, a girl is going to find it harder to hold off than one who has another guy on the side.
Agree 100% . Its funny how some dudes have this Madonna/whore complex when it comes to women.



A female who is out there single and dating and sleeping around isn't having sex as often as someone in a relationship. Fact.

A pussy that can bounce back from childbirth isn't gonna become 'loose' from excess peen. Fact.



Dudes really be having their ego tied up around their dick. Or maybe its a confidence thing. Idk...

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Posted by Taniwha
If she takes a long time to sleep with you it tells you that she is considering the relationship more seriously, shes investing in her emotional needs first, rather than just the physical. That tells me that shes got an emotional interest in me and is interested in more than just sex. If she's sleeping with me on the first date its most likely because she knows that she wont be effected by it if things go sour and I split, it says she doesn't care what I think of her. If she wont sleep with me it says shes concerned with what I think of her, It says that shes worried that If I don't call her back afterwards that she is going to feel hurt. It tells me that she is willing to invest time and energy into a relationship with me. Her not sleeping with me straight away makes me feel important to her.
PFFFFTTTAHAHA!!

Okay, dude 👍

Keep telling yourself that.

If a woman doesn't fuck you on the first date, there are only two reasons for that.

She wasn't feeling you, or she is "structured".

Structured means; she has read dating books and picked up rules like "wait 90 days" and shit..

Realistically, if she doesn't fuck you on the first date.. It's usually the 2nd or 3rd date.

If you hanging out with her for the 4th or 5th time, and you STILL haven't scored?? SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE.

Let's keep it real. Ain't none of that.. What you just said.
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I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”



I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.



Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄

The double standard is alive and well.

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Agreed. Who wants to date someone who holds themselves to a less standard than they hold you? With some unwritten rules that they themselves don't feel the need to stand-by.

I don't like sex on the first date because in general i get sexually turned on by mental stimulation, which I don't usually get in one encounter. However, if I wanted to I would, and if the person didn't want to continue to get to know me based on actions they themselves participated in.... Id see that as a personal projection of them onto me, which screams relationship issues down the road anyways. BYEEEEEEEE

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Issa damn shame other dudes ruin it for the rest of us. nowadays it's so hard to be authentic cause 1, it makes you vulnerable, 2 everyone and their mama has trust issues. lmaoo



A very true statement. And I think the same could be said for women.

I don’t tout my sexuality as a tool for manipulation. I think because some men have been burned that way, they think all women who are sexual have an ulterior motive.

It sucks, but the only way we can start the shift is by being more open with communication and being ourselves.

So, my fellow single people, have dialogues. Open and honest dialogues. click to expand
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i think those type of women should stay away from those types of men too.

and men should not be playing around with those types of women. they'll all get hurt. Only one will be unrequited.

it's painful to watch. i dont approve of that.

i'm jus saying...take responsibility.... don't mess with the types that you won't have feelings for. and so on so on... and make sure the other also feels the same way.
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I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”









I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.









Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄







The double standard is alive and well.







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This. Men are allowed to be horny and sexual but we aren't. A little insight I received recently from the man I'm dating, because I messaged him first on a dating website he thought I was going to be easy. His words exactly...
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I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”









I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.









Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄







The double standard is alive and well.







Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expand







You hit the nail on the head. He’s known for being a cad.





So, I asked him, “If the thought of a woman having sex with you on a first date, to include oral, is so off-putting, then that means you didn’t let her, right?” His response was, “I’m a guy. Of course I let her. She just can’t expect for me to respect her or see her seriously.”





Then I asked him, “What if she performed really well and gave you an experience unlike any other? Would that make you reconsider?”





He said: “Hell no. She didn’t get that good by having a natural talent for it. She had to practice. How much practice? I don’t even want to know.”





I explained to him that I’ve been considered an amazing lover by the people I’ve been with, which aren’t many. That my sexuality is actually very natural, but technique, I learned it from porn.(Please don’t judge me) Infused with my own imagination, of course.





He said that would be an exception, but that he thinks that would be rare. I don’t agree. I think there are probably a lot of women like me. click to expand





Its one thing to be more conservative and want a partner who feels the same. Personally I'm not one to fuck someone the first 24hrs. But I got mad control issues.



Thing is he's doing the same shit he's judging so harshly. Miss me with that 1950s mentality. K, thanks.

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cap mars in 5th. earth venus. cap dominant. Can't have someone in my space right away. And I'm too paranoid about hidden cameras (among other things) to fuck at theirs right away. Struggle is real.
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If she takes a long time to sleep with you it tells you that she is considering the relationship more seriously, shes investing in her emotional needs first, rather than just the physical. That tells me that shes got an emotional interest in me and is interested in more than just sex. If she's sleeping with me on the first date its most likely because she knows that she wont be effected by it if things go sour and I split, it says she doesn't care what I think of her. If she wont sleep with me it says shes concerned with what I think of her, It says that shes worried that If I don't call her back afterwards that she is going to feel hurt. It tells me that she is willing to invest time and energy into a relationship with me. Her not sleeping with me straight away makes me feel important to her.



PFFFFTTTAHAHA!!

Okay, dude 👍

Keep telling yourself that.
If a woman doesn't treetrunk you on the first date, there are only two reasons for that.

She wasn't feeling you, or she is "structured".
Structured means; she has read dating books and picked up rules like "wait 90 days" and butter..

Realistically, if she doesn't treetrunk you on the first date.. It's usually the 2nd or 3rd date.

If you hanging out with her for the 4th or 5th time, and you STILL haven't scored?? SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE.

Let's keep it real. Ain't none of that.. What you just said. click to expand
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the bold is, "Friend zone"

stays in the friend zone.
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Posted by Redbull
Whereas men are well served to observe and learn, I would think women would be also. Not every man is looking for fast cheap sex. You get to the point where whats the point? Time gets more valuable I guess and what are you putting time and energy into. If its just to jump in the sack, then is it even worth it? Not according to what your doing and priorities. It could be part of a fuller picture but just that?That could be simply a waste of time. This is the real world. But can women really dig that? I mean really not what is "said" but in reality. So I think there should be a point where some dude who is just about...may help for some women to think more about what is he doing in life.

Because You got men who are on to step 2 3 4 etc. like quietly "what is she about? eh, i'll quietly leave that alone" Not every man though so you get what type of guys you deal with. Like for men dealing with women. Catch up to that and the fact that you cant eliminate the risks and repercussions, nor make someone "think differently" about what you do,then you can move on to more advanced steps. Otherwise the elementary will trip you up.
Boring.

You clearly haven't had good sex. 1st doesn't automatically equal cheap....geez, fixed sign.

Sex can be cheap when married too. Like when there's only one hotel room available and you have to share a room with the kids. So, you wait for them to go to sleep and do it in the bathroom or the car.

When was the last time you had sex man?
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I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”









I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.









Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄







The double standard is alive and well.







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You hit the nail on the head. He’s known for being a cad.





So, I asked him, “If the thought of a woman having sex with you on a first date, to include oral, is so off-putting, then that means you didn’t let her, right?” His response was, “I’m a guy. Of course I let her. She just can’t expect for me to respect her or see her seriously.”





Then I asked him, “What if she performed really well and gave you an experience unlike any other? Would that make you reconsider?”





He said: “Hell no. She didn’t get that good by having a natural talent for it. She had to practice. How much practice? I don’t even want to know.”





I explained to him that I’ve been considered an amazing lover by the people I’ve been with, which aren’t many. That my sexuality is actually very natural, but technique, I learned it from porn.(Please don’t judge me) Infused with my own imagination, of course.





He said that would be an exception, but that he thinks that would be rare. I don’t agree. I think there are probably a lot of women like me. click to expand





Its one thing to be more conservative and want a partner who feels the same. Personally I'm not one to fuck someone the first 24hrs. But I got mad control issues.



Thing is he's doing the same shit he's judging so harshly. Miss me with that 1950s mentality. K, thanks.

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Tell us about your control issues lol. click to expand
cap mars in 5th. earth venus. cap dominant. Can't have someone in my space right away. And I'm too paranoid about hidden cameras (among other things) to fuck at theirs right away. Struggle is real.
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I don’t know what my Mars or Venus or anything else is, all I know is that I’m always paranoid about hidden cameras at their place, too. Seriously. I’m a closeted freak, so I don’t want my business out there like that.