
Married for 24 years. Apparently he didn’t give a damn...lol


Posted by DeadInsideI had a Cap Male friend show interest in me. It wasn't vibing because he had told me as friends that he eat a stripper out and paid for it. I was outraged! She shoulda paid him! He didn't vibe like a "protector." Instead, he vibed like he needed protecting... protection from getting shitted.Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Captivate86
I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”
I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.
Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄
The double standard is alive and well.
Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expand
so if a guy give you a cunnilingus the first date, u date him ?
no judgement zone, doing my homework rn could give more fclick to expand

Posted by SoulWhat if she penetrated your soul?
Yes.
It was easy, effortless, and required nothing to achieve. So nothing is what she means to me.
class="bqexpand"> Posted by VenusAquariusNo, I appreciate everyone’s input...single or married. What I meant was as far as applying the insights of what we’re learning here, was directed at single people.Posted by Captivate86Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by Captivate86Posted by meraki
Issa damn shame other dudes ruin it for the rest of us. nowadays it's so hard to be authentic cause 1, it makes you vulnerable, 2 everyone and their mama has trust issues. lmaoo
A very true statement. And I think the same could be said for women.
I don’t tout my sexuality as a tool for manipulation. I think because some men have been burned that way, they think all women who are sexual have an ulterior motive.
It sucks, but the only way we can start the shift is by being more open with communication and being ourselves.
So, my fellow single people, have dialogues. Open and honest dialogues.
I'm glad you created this topic. It may be an end to the website's "Help [Insert Sign]..." topics.
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Thank you! I’m glad I did too...I’ve really gained a lot from it so far. I’m at this place in my life where I want to challenge core beliefs and truly be open to learning about other perspectives.
I love hearing what other people have learned from their life experiences.
Don't count us married (or divorced women) out. We could tell some stories... I try not to TMI but, geez. This site needs to get real. click to expandclick to expand
class="bqexpand"> Posted by VenusAquarius😳 It’s crazy that you mention that. The Capricorn guy I went on a date with told me he once dated a stripper when he was much younger and that he was almost going to marry her.Posted by DeadInsidePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Captivate86
I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”
I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.
Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄
The double standard is alive and well.
Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expand
so if a guy give you a cunnilingus the first date, u date him ?
no judgement zone, doing my homework rn could give more f
I had a Cap Male friend show interest in me. It wasn't vibing because he had told me as friends that he eat a stripper out and paid for it. I was outraged! She shoulda paid him! He didn't vibe like a "protector." Instead, he vibed like he needed protecting... protection from getting butterted.
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Posted by Captivate86Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by DeadInsidePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Captivate86
I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”
I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.
Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄
The double standard is alive and well.
Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expand
so if a guy give you a cunnilingus the first date, u date him ?
no judgement zone, doing my homework rn could give more f
I had a Cap Male friend show interest in me. It wasn't vibing because he had told me as friends that he eat a stripper out and paid for it. I was outraged! She shoulda paid him! He didn't vibe like a "protector." Instead, he vibed like he needed protecting... protection from getting butterted.
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😳 It’s crazy that you mention that. The Capricorn guy I went on a date with told me he once dated a stripper when he was much younger and that he was almost going to marry her.
After he started acting distant, all I could think was, “Geez, he wanted to marry a stripper...and here I am with my post-graduate education and all I get is detachment after touching his leg and kissing him. Awesome sauce.”
No offense to anyone who is a stripper, if there are any. My ego was bruised and I was trying to make sense of things. All good people, strippers or not, deserve to be loved.click to expand

Posted by Captivate86Does he have Venus in Aqua?Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by DeadInsidePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Captivate86
I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”
I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.
Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄
The double standard is alive and well.
Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expand
so if a guy give you a cunnilingus the first date, u date him ?
no judgement zone, doing my homework rn could give more f
I had a Cap Male friend show interest in me. It wasn't vibing because he had told me as friends that he eat a stripper out and paid for it. I was outraged! She shoulda paid him! He didn't vibe like a "protector." Instead, he vibed like he needed protecting... protection from getting butterted.
click to expand
😳 It’s crazy that you mention that. The Capricorn guy I went on a date with told me he once dated a stripper when he was much younger and that he was almost going to marry her.
After he started acting distant, all I could think was, “Geez, he wanted to marry a stripper...and here I am with my post-graduate education and all I get is detachment after touching his leg and kissing him. Awesome sauce.”
No offense to anyone who is a stripper, if there are any. My ego was bruised and I was trying to make sense of things. All good people, strippers or not, deserve to be loved.click to expand
class="bqexpand"> Posted by VenusAquariusI have no idea. Would that indicate something in particular? Teach me, please!Posted by Captivate86Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by DeadInsidePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Captivate86
I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”
I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.
Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄
The double standard is alive and well.
Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expand
so if a guy give you a cunnilingus the first date, u date him ?
no judgement zone, doing my homework rn could give more f
I had a Cap Male friend show interest in me. It wasn't vibing because he had told me as friends that he eat a stripper out and paid for it. I was outraged! She shoulda paid him! He didn't vibe like a "protector." Instead, he vibed like he needed protecting... protection from getting butterted.
click to expand
😳 It’s crazy that you mention that. The Capricorn guy I went on a date with told me he once dated a stripper when he was much younger and that he was almost going to marry her.
After he started acting distant, all I could think was, “Geez, he wanted to marry a stripper...and here I am with my post-graduate education and all I get is detachment after touching his leg and kissing him. Awesome sauce.”
No offense to anyone who is a stripper, if there are any. My ego was bruised and I was trying to make sense of things. All good people, strippers or not, deserve to be loved.
Does he have Venus in Aqua? click to expandclick to expand

Posted by Captivate86You'd have to know his place and time of birth. Venus in Aquas tend to like the extraordinary, perverse... some more than others, to each their own special brand of freak. We're hard nuts to crack.Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by Captivate86Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by DeadInsidePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Captivate86
I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”
I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.
Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄
The double standard is alive and well.
Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expand
so if a guy give you a cunnilingus the first date, u date him ?
no judgement zone, doing my homework rn could give more f
I had a Cap Male friend show interest in me. It wasn't vibing because he had told me as friends that he eat a stripper out and paid for it. I was outraged! She shoulda paid him! He didn't vibe like a "protector." Instead, he vibed like he needed protecting... protection from getting butterted.
click to expand
😳 It’s crazy that you mention that. The Capricorn guy I went on a date with told me he once dated a stripper when he was much younger and that he was almost going to marry her.
After he started acting distant, all I could think was, “Geez, he wanted to marry a stripper...and here I am with my post-graduate education and all I get is detachment after touching his leg and kissing him. Awesome sauce.”
No offense to anyone who is a stripper, if there are any. My ego was bruised and I was trying to make sense of things. All good people, strippers or not, deserve to be loved.
Does he have Venus in Aqua? click to expand
I have no idea. Would that indicate something in particular? Teach me, please!click to expand

class="bqexpand"> Posted by DeadInsideActually, if he's not giving then I'm the one judging,...hard.Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Captivate86
I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”
I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.
Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄
The double standard is alive and well.
Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expand
so if a guy give you a cunnilingus the first date, u date him ?
no judgement zone, doing my homework rn could give more f click to expandclick to expand

Posted by Captivate86My (now) ex boyfriend told me after we started officially dating that he was glad I didn't sleep with him on the first date, even though he wanted to.
Since we are all afforded anonymity on here, I want to ask something in hopes that men will be completely honest in their answer.
My question is: Does a woman’s sleeping with you(having sex with you) on the first date affect how you see her as a person?

class="bqexpand"> Posted by Captivate86Its one thing to be more conservative and want a partner who feels the same. Personally I'm not one to fuck someone the first 24hrs. But I got mad control issues.Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Captivate86
I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”
I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.
Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄
The double standard is alive and well.
Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expand
You hit the nail on the head. He’s known for being a cad.
So, I asked him, “If the thought of a woman having sex with you on a first date, to include oral, is so off-putting, then that means you didn’t let her, right?” His response was, “I’m a guy. Of course I let her. She just can’t expect for me to respect her or see her seriously.”
Then I asked him, “What if she performed really well and gave you an experience unlike any other? Would that make you reconsider?”
He said: “Hell no. She didn’t get that good by having a natural talent for it. She had to practice. How much practice? I don’t even want to know.”
I explained to him that I’ve been considered an amazing lover by the people I’ve been with, which aren’t many. That my sexuality is actually very natural, but technique, I learned it from porn.(Please don’t judge me) Infused with my own imagination, of course.
He said that would be an exception, but that he thinks that would be rare. I don’t agree. I think there are probably a lot of women like me. click to expandclick to expand
Posted by Lioness18881Yes! Another good point. There was a girl I went to high school with that would try to make herself out to be the portrait of purity, even going as far as wearing a purity ring and claiming to her high school boyfriend that she was waiting to have sex until they married.
I don't think you can judge how easy someone is based on that. If i really like someone, i sleep with them on the first date. If i don't, I'm not interested in a 2nd date or 3rd date. In the las 10 years, I've only slept with 3. So just because someone holds off for a few dates, doesn't mean they don't sleep with heaps of guys and just because someone does sleep with you on the first date, doesn't mean they do.
When there's heaps of gap between you and the last one, a girl is going to find it harder to hold off than one who has another guy on the side.

Posted by Lioness18881Agree 100% . Its funny how some dudes have this Madonna/whore complex when it comes to women.
I don't think you can judge how easy someone is based on that. If i really like someone, i sleep with them on the first date. If i don't, I'm not interested in a 2nd date or 3rd date. In the las 10 years, I've only slept with 3. So just because someone holds off for a few dates, doesn't mean they don't sleep with heaps of guys and just because someone does sleep with you on the first date, doesn't mean they do.
When there's heaps of gap between you and the last one, a girl is going to find it harder to hold off than one who has another guy on the side.

Posted by TaniwhaPFFFFTTTAHAHA!!
If she takes a long time to sleep with you it tells you that she is considering the relationship more seriously, shes investing in her emotional needs first, rather than just the physical. That tells me that shes got an emotional interest in me and is interested in more than just sex. If she's sleeping with me on the first date its most likely because she knows that she wont be effected by it if things go sour and I split, it says she doesn't care what I think of her. If she wont sleep with me it says shes concerned with what I think of her, It says that shes worried that If I don't call her back afterwards that she is going to feel hurt. It tells me that she is willing to invest time and energy into a relationship with me. Her not sleeping with me straight away makes me feel important to her.
class="bqexpand"> Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Captivate86
I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”
I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.
Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄
The double standard is alive and well.
Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expandclick to expand
class="bqexpand"> Posted by Captivate86Posted by meraki
Issa damn shame other dudes ruin it for the rest of us. nowadays it's so hard to be authentic cause 1, it makes you vulnerable, 2 everyone and their mama has trust issues. lmaoo
A very true statement. And I think the same could be said for women.
I don’t tout my sexuality as a tool for manipulation. I think because some men have been burned that way, they think all women who are sexual have an ulterior motive.
It sucks, but the only way we can start the shift is by being more open with communication and being ourselves.
So, my fellow single people, have dialogues. Open and honest dialogues. click to expandclick to expand

class="bqexpand">class="bqexpand">class="bqexpand">class="bqexpand"> Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Captivate86
I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”
I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.
Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄
The double standard is alive and well.
Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expandclick to expandclick to expandclick to expandclick to expand


Posted by Awesomeyocap mars in 5th. earth venus. cap dominant. Can't have someone in my space right away. And I'm too paranoid about hidden cameras (among other things) to fuck at theirs right away. Struggle is real.Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Captivate86Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Captivate86
I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”
I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.
Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄
The double standard is alive and well.
Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expand
You hit the nail on the head. He’s known for being a cad.
So, I asked him, “If the thought of a woman having sex with you on a first date, to include oral, is so off-putting, then that means you didn’t let her, right?” His response was, “I’m a guy. Of course I let her. She just can’t expect for me to respect her or see her seriously.”
Then I asked him, “What if she performed really well and gave you an experience unlike any other? Would that make you reconsider?”
He said: “Hell no. She didn’t get that good by having a natural talent for it. She had to practice. How much practice? I don’t even want to know.”
I explained to him that I’ve been considered an amazing lover by the people I’ve been with, which aren’t many. That my sexuality is actually very natural, but technique, I learned it from porn.(Please don’t judge me) Infused with my own imagination, of course.
He said that would be an exception, but that he thinks that would be rare. I don’t agree. I think there are probably a lot of women like me. click to expand
Its one thing to be more conservative and want a partner who feels the same. Personally I'm not one to fuck someone the first 24hrs. But I got mad control issues.
Thing is he's doing the same shit he's judging so harshly. Miss me with that 1950s mentality. K, thanks.
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Tell us about your control issues lol. click to expandclick to expand

Posted by Emhendo👍Posted by Taniwha
If she takes a long time to sleep with you it tells you that she is considering the relationship more seriously, shes investing in her emotional needs first, rather than just the physical. That tells me that shes got an emotional interest in me and is interested in more than just sex. If she's sleeping with me on the first date its most likely because she knows that she wont be effected by it if things go sour and I split, it says she doesn't care what I think of her. If she wont sleep with me it says shes concerned with what I think of her, It says that shes worried that If I don't call her back afterwards that she is going to feel hurt. It tells me that she is willing to invest time and energy into a relationship with me. Her not sleeping with me straight away makes me feel important to her.
PFFFFTTTAHAHA!!
Okay, dude 👍
Keep telling yourself that.
If a woman doesn't treetrunk you on the first date, there are only two reasons for that.
She wasn't feeling you, or she is "structured".
Structured means; she has read dating books and picked up rules like "wait 90 days" and butter..
Realistically, if she doesn't treetrunk you on the first date.. It's usually the 2nd or 3rd date.
If you hanging out with her for the 4th or 5th time, and you STILL haven't scored?? SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE.
Let's keep it real. Ain't none of that.. What you just said. click to expandclick to expand

Posted by RedbullBoring.
Whereas men are well served to observe and learn, I would think women would be also. Not every man is looking for fast cheap sex. You get to the point where whats the point? Time gets more valuable I guess and what are you putting time and energy into. If its just to jump in the sack, then is it even worth it? Not according to what your doing and priorities. It could be part of a fuller picture but just that?That could be simply a waste of time. This is the real world. But can women really dig that? I mean really not what is "said" but in reality. So I think there should be a point where some dude who is just about...may help for some women to think more about what is he doing in life.
Because You got men who are on to step 2 3 4 etc. like quietly "what is she about? eh, i'll quietly leave that alone" Not every man though so you get what type of guys you deal with. Like for men dealing with women. Catch up to that and the fact that you cant eliminate the risks and repercussions, nor make someone "think differently" about what you do,then you can move on to more advanced steps. Otherwise the elementary will trip you up.

Posted by LadyNeptuneI don’t know what my Mars or Venus or anything else is, all I know is that I’m always paranoid about hidden cameras at their place, too. Seriously. I’m a closeted freak, so I don’t want my business out there like that.Posted by Awesomeyocap mars in 5th. earth venus. cap dominant. Can't have someone in my space right away. And I'm too paranoid about hidden cameras (among other things) to fuck at theirs right away. Struggle is real.Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Captivate86Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Captivate86
I ask because a Capricorn buddy of mine from college recently told me, “ I can’t trust a woman who has sex with me on a first date. Especially oral sex. Surely I can’t be the first. And all I can think about is how many other guys she did that with, whilst telling them this is rare behavior and she’s just that attracted to them. Yeah, okay.”
I think this is a pretty immature way to look at it, honestly. And why attack her value and credibility as a woman just because she shared physical intimacy with you? Anyway, I was curious if this was a shared belief with men.
Betcha that same dude doesn’t feel his value is reduced by one night stands or getting his dick sucked on the first date. 🙄🙄🙄
The double standard is alive and well.
Personally I’m not interested in hyprocrites opinion. Holds 0 sway on how I live my life. click to expand
You hit the nail on the head. He’s known for being a cad.
So, I asked him, “If the thought of a woman having sex with you on a first date, to include oral, is so off-putting, then that means you didn’t let her, right?” His response was, “I’m a guy. Of course I let her. She just can’t expect for me to respect her or see her seriously.”
Then I asked him, “What if she performed really well and gave you an experience unlike any other? Would that make you reconsider?”
He said: “Hell no. She didn’t get that good by having a natural talent for it. She had to practice. How much practice? I don’t even want to know.”
I explained to him that I’ve been considered an amazing lover by the people I’ve been with, which aren’t many. That my sexuality is actually very natural, but technique, I learned it from porn.(Please don’t judge me) Infused with my own imagination, of course.
He said that would be an exception, but that he thinks that would be rare. I don’t agree. I think there are probably a lot of women like me. click to expand
Its one thing to be more conservative and want a partner who feels the same. Personally I'm not one to fuck someone the first 24hrs. But I got mad control issues.
Thing is he's doing the same shit he's judging so harshly. Miss me with that 1950s mentality. K, thanks.
click to expand
Tell us about your control issues lol. click to expandclick to expand
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