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I did install exterior and interior cameras on my property.
Cus if a cop walks into my house and shoots me while I’m eating rocky road...
Siri
Alexa
Google
Apple
My cat
T-Mobile
Blink
Ring
We’re all fixin to know what happened and my death will not be covered up.
Cus if a cop walks into my house and shoots me while I’m eating rocky road...
Siri
Alexa
Apple
My cat
T-Mobile
Blink
Ring
We’re all fixin to know what happened and my death will not be covered up.
Posted by bmoon8Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by bmoon8Posted by DMV
I wonder why white people don’t protest death by cop? Why is it only black people?
Because I’ve seen stories of where a white person is killed by a cop and it’s acceptable. No one makes a stink about it. Why is that?
White people, are you okay with death by cop? Do you always believe cops are justified when they kill people, especially white people?
How come y’all accept and look the other way?
Is it because you’ve been conditioned to believe cops?
White people do protest police brutality and cop killings with black people.
Cops are people like you and me. If you talk to them, you can usually reason with them.
No, I don’t think cop killings are justified and they need to be trained differently. It’s gotten worse after 9/11/2001.
We don’t look the other way. Isn’t @LadyNeptune also white?
White passing and yes, I very much benefit from this on the daily. Certainly with my past interactions with police which I have spoken about before.
Cops can't be reasoned with if they see your skin color as a weapon. We need to stop that rhetoric.
Tell that to Philando Castile who did everything right, disclosing to the officer right away that he had a gun in the car that he was licensed to carry. He reasoned with the officer, telling him that he was not going to reach for the gun over and over. That officer still fired 7 shots close range and murdered him in front of his gf and four year old daughter.
George Floyd pleaded with the officers and look where that got him. A multitude of onlookers, ranging from children to paramedics pleaded with the officers.
Tell that to Elijah McCain who pleaded with officers that he couldn't breathe as they put him in a carotid hold resulting hemorrhaging in his neck as the autopsy showed. He apologizes to them after vomiting. They injected him with ketamine and he had a heat attack and days later was brain dead.
There are so many others that were caught on body cam, or bystanders footage. Countless others whose stories we never hear because there is not footage that goes viral.
Police brutality hasn't 'gotten worse', its just being exposed in the age of smart phones.
This isn't a good apple bad apple situation when the whole tree is diseased.
Some cops are completely irrational and cannot be reasoned with... you are right. I am not offering anymore of my tips or help to this thread. I no longer wish to cast pearl before swine.
There were video cameras before 09/11/2001 to film encounters. Hello Rodney King beating.
Please look up how it got worse after 09/11/2001.click to expand
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Posted by bmoon8Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by bmoon8Posted by DMV
I wonder why white people don’t protest death by cop? Why is it only black people?
Because I’ve seen stories of where a white person is killed by a cop and it’s acceptable. No one makes a stink about it. Why is that?
White people, are you okay with death by cop? Do you always believe cops are justified when they kill people, especially white people?
How come y’all accept and look the other way?
Is it because you’ve been conditioned to believe cops?
White people do protest police brutality and cop killings with black people.
Cops are people like you and me. If you talk to them, you can usually reason with them.
No, I don’t think cop killings are justified and they need to be trained differently. It’s gotten worse after 9/11/2001.
We don’t look the other way. Isn’t @LadyNeptune also white?
White passing and yes, I very much benefit from this on the daily. Certainly with my past interactions with police which I have spoken about before.
Cops can't be reasoned with if they see your skin color as a weapon. We need to stop that rhetoric.
Tell that to Philando Castile who did everything right, disclosing to the officer right away that he had a gun in the car that he was licensed to carry. He reasoned with the officer, telling him that he was not going to reach for the gun over and over. That officer still fired 7 shots close range and murdered him in front of his gf and four year old daughter.
George Floyd pleaded with the officers and look where that got him. A multitude of onlookers, ranging from children to paramedics pleaded with the officers.
Tell that to Elijah McCain who pleaded with officers that he couldn't breathe as they put him in a carotid hold resulting hemorrhaging in his neck as the autopsy showed. He apologizes to them after vomiting. They injected him with ketamine and he had a heat attack and days later was brain dead.
There are so many others that were caught on body cam, or bystanders footage. Countless others whose stories we never hear because there is not footage that goes viral.
Police brutality hasn't 'gotten worse', its just being exposed in the age of smart phones.
This isn't a good apple bad apple situation when the whole tree is diseased.
Some cops are completely irrational and cannot be reasoned with... you are right. I am not offering anymore of my tips or help to this thread. I no longer wish to cast pearl before swine.
There were video cameras before 09/11/2001 to film encounters. Hello Rodney King beating.
Please look up how it got worse after 09/11/2001.click to expand
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Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by DMVPosted by bmoon8
I have friends of the family that are cops and sheriffs.
I have also had my run ins with cops and can thank G_d I am still alive. Show your hands at all times and just talk to them.
Don’t know about Dylann Roof’s bullshit or what you are even asking.
Yeah, your definitely white with the “just comply” nonsense but ok.
You don’t know Dylan Roof??!!
Let me repay the history lesson!
Dylan roof was a white guy who walked into a black church and murdered 9 black members during bible study meeting with an assault rifle.
He was apprehended without a scratch and...
Wait for it
Wait for it
Wait for it...
The cops, lol, brought him Burger King cause he was hungry.
It is a far too common theme... this double murderer is given a bottle of water and given medical treatment.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZNG1gGVAAAksFI.jpg<div class="bqfade">click to expand
It was incredibly disrespectful but it taught me a lesson.
Cops are humans and just because they put on a blue uniform and badge, they don’t cease to be humans. They’re still subject to propaganda and marketing. They’re not en entity that exists on its own planet or something.
Then I went to the African American museum and interesting how there were millions of KKK members and then one day they were gone. But they weren’t really gone. They didn’t die.
They became doctors, cops, teachers, pilots, plumbers, ceos, presidents...
Things are far too coordinated to not think that the membership still exists
Posted by bmoon8Posted by cakePosted by bmoon8
Also, this is how I have dealt with police...
First question!
Me: “Am I being detained?”
Police: “No. blah blah blah”
No is the keyword no matter what else they say. Drive off or walk away.
Your experience is not the majority's experience, especially those who are racially discriminated against.
It might have worked for you based on a number of things.
Show me... I’ll be gracious here... one single video where a black person was killed after asking this question.
I am not going to wait because no such video exists.click to expand
Again, this response is draped in whiteness. Again, nothing wrong with it. It just shows how much more work needs to be done.
The fact that you put the burden of proof on the victim is TELLING.
We, black people, have unknowingly gotten ourselves into a predicament where we have to film EVERYTHING to just be believed.
Because of this George Floyd video. All other instances of police misconduct now must be taped to be taken seriously. Tape has to be top notch. HD 1080. Full production.
Starting from last week and 2 weeks into the future because those who have been conditioned to side with law enforcement will say, well what happened before, and before that, and before that.
if there’s no tape, no conviction.
Cause in your words “no such video exists.”
The audacity that I have to tape my own abuse/murder by police.
Mama needs a drink
Mama needs a drink
Imma need government assistance if I have to hire my own film crew to follow me around.
I feel like this is a black mirror episode
I feel like this is a black mirror episode
...
Maybe people who have no reason to argue against police, because the system was built to help them not harm/kill them.. shouldn't argue
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Maybe people who have no reason to argue against police, because the system was built to help them not harm/kill them.. shouldn't argue
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Posted by DMVPosted by PuzzlePieces
Thank god there was a conviction! If there hadn’t been, it would have said this was okay. And it’s not!
Good questions you ask. I’m being appalled how many white people are in line with white supremacists. It’s unbelievable. And unbelievable they think they are being patriots regarding January 6th.
I think white people have been raised the cops protect us and it’s criminals that have problems no matter what color they are. How often is a white person killed who is not a criminal? We have to get out of that mindset because it’s pretty obvious at this point that has contributed to where we sit today. From what I’ve seen is there is a lot of bitching and moaning but not action. Except the so-called patriots? Omg
So my area’s police department is hiring a bunch of “community service” officers to respond to calls without being armed. It’s pretty small area aka mostly rural. And it sounds like a way to get in if you want to be a police officer. Does this mean they are trying recruit in a different way? train differently? Previously they hired a lot of ex military & it was hard to get in if you didn’t have military experience. I only know this because my daughter wants to be a cop - one of the good ones.. to help people. Those are her words. She’s thinking of applying. This area has mostly huge drug problems.
I also have resource officers in my next of the woods.
Yeah, I have a feeling kinship plays a major role. So much so, Both white civilians and white cops respect and tolerate the other as having “bad days.”click to expand
Yes, but this is far more than bad days. That’s coming in crystal clear to those who actually care about people.
Posted by bmoon8
If your only argument for police is that they ALSO kill white people... that's not doing much to promote police as a whole.
Its easy to offer solutions that work for you and me as seemingly non-threatening white women when it comes to police. But the multitude of evidence out there has proven otherwise. And there is plenty of footage of police being extremely violent towards young white women as well without just cause.
This officer executed this young man and not only went free but is receiving a tax payer funded pension of $ 2500 per month for the rest of his life. That was only possible because his fellow officers and police department made it happen for him by re-hiring him and helping him claim ptsd status in order to achieve this. The system is responsible for training him, protecting him, and paying him.
As far as being unlawfully detained, yes this has been captured on video many times! Recently there was a army lieutenant that was unlawfully detained and pepper sprayed multiple times at a gas station. There was another army personal unlawfully detained for hours in his moving truck, all caught on camera. Neither of them had done anything wrong and both officers were only fired months later AFTER the individuals sued, got the body cam footage, and released it to public outrage.
Peoples civil rights are being violated by police daily. Some of them loose their lives.
Its not a 'few bad cops' when the whole department has access to the body cam and can see what has occurred and yet chooses to release a false statement to protect the officer and vilify the victim of the officers brutality.
Chauvin held his knee to a 14 year olds back for 17, yes 17!, minutes in 2017. He should've been fired then. But his police department protected him and put him right back out there on the street to commit murder.
There's another recent story in the news about a 20 year veteran officer who was fired back in 2006 just now winning back her pension at the State Supreme court level. She intervened and stopped another officer from chocking a suspect who happened to be black. She was fired and lost her pension. The department protected the officer who used excessive force and she was tossed to the side.
So even if there is a 'good officer' like her, the system will always protect the bad cop over the good cop.
I know ya'll are feeling like you're on top of the world, but the fact of the matter is, the deceased was no choir boy.
Record a mile long, drugs, domestic violence, it isn't like we lost someone that cured cancer, or made people money picking good mutual funds.
Record a mile long, drugs, domestic violence, it isn't like we lost someone that cured cancer, or made people money picking good mutual funds.
Oh, and it almost slipped my mind, since you're all feeling "high and mighty" about a white cop brought to justice.
Let's review the case of the Iraq war veteran, Ashli Babbit. All she was doing was protesting at OUR capital, separated by a plexiglass wall, and she was shot point blank in the neck, by a BLACK Capital law enforcement officer who panicked, and she bled to death.
Not only was the officer NEVER revealed/named by the media, we never knew he was black until some sleuth was able to uncover the fact. Of course HE won't be charged, because black male on white female violence is just fine in this political climate. So quit preaching to me about social injustice and all the other crying, whining and shaming. I'm not interested or sympathetic.
Let's review the case of the Iraq war veteran, Ashli Babbit. All she was doing was protesting at OUR capital, separated by a plexiglass wall, and she was shot point blank in the neck, by a BLACK Capital law enforcement officer who panicked, and she bled to death.
Not only was the officer NEVER revealed/named by the media, we never knew he was black until some sleuth was able to uncover the fact. Of course HE won't be charged, because black male on white female violence is just fine in this political climate. So quit preaching to me about social injustice and all the other crying, whining and shaming. I'm not interested or sympathetic.
Posted by Logger
Oh, and it almost slipped my mind, since you're all feeling "high and mighty" about a white cop brought to justice.
Let's review the case of the Iraq war veteran, Ashli Babbit. All she was doing was protesting at OUR capital, separated by a plexiglass wall, and she was shot point blank in the neck, by a BLACK Capital law enforcement officer who panicked, and she bled to death.
Not only was the officer NEVER revealed/named by the media, we never knew he was black until some sleuth was able to uncover the fact. Of course HE won't be charged, because black male on white female violence is just fine in this political climate. So quit preaching to me about social injustice and all the other crying, whining and shaming. I'm not interested or sympathetic.
Really? This is the example you want to use? A person who broke into the Capitol along with an angry mob threatening harm to members of Congress. Maybe she just should have stayed home that day.
Posted by DMV
I wonder why white people don’t protest death by cop? Why is it only black people?
Because I’ve seen stories of where a white person is killed by a cop and it’s acceptable. No one makes a stink about it. Why is that?
White people, are you okay with death by cop? Do you always believe cops are justified when they kill people, especially white people?
How come y’all accept and look the other way?
Is it because you’ve been conditioned to believe cops?
White people are too busy competing.
White on white crime is just a norm.
Posted by DMV
So I asked a white person why they don’t protest white death by cop.
He said it’s because they don’t worship criminals like black people.
This is a VERY interesting response.
There have been countless movies made glorifying white killers. Ted Bundy has so many “dreamy” movies about him.
There is also a instilled belief of some white people that people, white or black, killed by cops are criminals. End of story. No debate. So you wouldn’t protest because you’ve been taught to accept the process as truth.
Strangely, I began to think. Do white people protest differently? Do y’all protest with movies, art etc?
Whereas black people are direct and aggressive with their protest. White people are passive.
Which makes even further sense why Jan 6 happened
Black people have a collective history where you support each other and each other’s struggle.
White people are every man for himself.
Posted by 7sPosted by DMV
So I asked a white person why they don’t protest white death by cop.
He said it’s because they don’t worship criminals like black people.
This is a VERY interesting response.
There have been countless movies made glorifying white killers. Ted Bundy has so many “dreamy” movies about him.
There is also a instilled belief of some white people that people, white or black, killed by cops are criminals. End of story. No debate. So you wouldn’t protest because you’ve been taught to accept the process as truth.
Strangely, I began to think. Do white people protest differently? Do y’all protest with movies, art etc?
Whereas black people are direct and aggressive with their protest. White people are passive.
Which makes even further sense why Jan 6 happened
I mean I think you know the answer to this question but I’ll take a stab at it....
1. Historically speaking, law enforcement have always been used to kill, terrify and terrorize people of color.
2. Systematic racism is real and people of color get front row seat.
3. White people have been raised to respect and not fear law enforcement because they’ve NEVER post any threat to them and still don’t.
I can go on and on. When a person of color is murdered by law enforcement, it’s not hard to see how every colored person see’s themselves in that person because they’ve more than likely experienced injustice themselves but never received a fair outcome.click to expand
Yeah all this too.
Posted by Logger
Oh, and it almost slipped my mind, since you're all feeling "high and mighty" about a white cop brought to justice.
Let's review the case of the Iraq war veteran, Ashli Babbit. All she was doing was protesting at OUR capital, separated by a plexiglass wall, and she was shot point blank in the neck, by a BLACK Capital law enforcement officer who panicked, and she bled to death.
Not only was the officer NEVER revealed/named by the media, we never knew he was black until some sleuth was able to uncover the fact. Of course HE won't be charged, because black male on white female violence is just fine in this political climate. So quit preaching to me about social injustice and all the other crying, whining and shaming. I'm not interested or sympathetic.
I knew you were a salty cracker.
Posted by DMVPosted by bmoon8Posted by cakePosted by bmoon8
Also, this is how I have dealt with police...
First question!
Me: “Am I being detained?”
Police: “No. blah blah blah”
No is the keyword no matter what else they say. Drive off or walk away.
Your experience is not the majority's experience, especially those who are racially discriminated against.
It might have worked for you based on a number of things.
Show me... I’ll be gracious here... one single video where a black person was killed after asking this question.
I am not going to wait because no such video exists.
Again, this response is draped in whiteness. Again, nothing wrong with it. It just shows how much more work needs to be done.
The fact that you put the burden of proof on the victim is TELLING.
We, black people, have unknowingly gotten ourselves into a predicament where we have to film EVERYTHING to just be believed.
Because of this George Floyd video. All other instances of police misconduct now must be taped to be taken seriously. Tape has to be top notch. HD 1080. Full production.
Starting from last week and 2 weeks into the future because those who have been conditioned to side with law enforcement will say, well what happened before, and before that, and before that.
if there’s no tape, no conviction.
Cause in your words “no such video exists.”click to expand
This is exactly why my Gem has cameras set up inside and outside of the house.
Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by DMV
So I asked a white person why they don’t protest white death by cop.
He said it’s because they don’t worship criminals like black people.
This is a VERY interesting response.
There have been countless movies made glorifying white killers. Ted Bundy has so many “dreamy” movies about him.
There is also a instilled belief of some white people that people, white or black, killed by cops are criminals. End of story. No debate. So you wouldn’t protest because you’ve been taught to accept the process as truth.
Strangely, I began to think. Do white people protest differently? Do y’all protest with movies, art etc?
Whereas black people are direct and aggressive with their protest. White people are passive.
Which makes even further sense why Jan 6 happened
Black people have a collective history where you support each other and each other’s struggle.White people are every man for himself.
We’re really good at coming together to maintain our power thoughclick to expand
Mass shooters are good examples of when power is lost and trying to maintain it.
Every man for himself
Posted by DMV
I wonder why white people don’t protest death by cop? Why is it only black people?
Because I’ve seen stories of where a white person is killed by a cop and it’s acceptable. No one makes a stink about it. Why is that?
White people, are you okay with death by cop? Do you always believe cops are justified when they kill people, especially white people?
How come y’all accept and look the other way?
Is it because you’ve been conditioned to believe cops?
Maybe white people don't protest as much or at least if they do it does not make main stream media because white lives don't matter.
Only black lives matter, apparently.
Could you imagine the uproar if white people held a large protest because a police officer killed a white person?
Honestly, white people would be vilified.
Would black people or others stand in solidarity with white people or would all we hear about is how worse it is for black people (despite current statistics showing more white are killed based on population percentage etc) and how white people ought not to be making a fuss, and even worse, how white people all have some kind of privileged based solely on the colour of their skin regardless of anything else and other factors.
Could you imagine having a movement for white people today where white people are told to loot and set fire to the area they live in and destroy business regardless of who owns them or to only support white businesses and boycott businesses run by other skin colours?
Could you imagine a black CEO or prominent figure resigning from their position because they think a white person, thus based solely on skin colour, ought to be in the role instead?
It would NEVER happen! It does not fit the narrative. It is far easier to keep telling black people how oppressed they are and how white people have privilege are how they are still the oppressors etc in order to keep the divisive, in-fighting argument going between groups of people so you're all far too busy looking over here at bullshit and not looking over there where the real issues are.
I'm surprised at your surprise on this matter.
Posted by AgentP911Posted by DMV
I wonder why white people don’t protest death by cop? Why is it only black people?
Because I’ve seen stories of where a white person is killed by a cop and it’s acceptable. No one makes a stink about it. Why is that?
White people, are you okay with death by cop? Do you always believe cops are justified when they kill people, especially white people?
How come y’all accept and look the other way?
Is it because you’ve been conditioned to believe cops?
Maybe white people don't protest as much or at least if they do it does not make main stream media because white lives don't matter.
Only black lives matter, apparently.
Could you imagine the uproar if white people held a large protest because a police officer killed a white person?
Honestly, white people would be vilified.
Would black people or others stand in solidarity with white people or would all we hear about is how worse it is for black people (despite current statistics showing more white are killed based on population percentage etc) and how white people ought not to be making a fuss, and even worse, how white people all have some kind of privileged based solely on the colour of their skin regardless of anything else and other factors.
Could you imagine having a movement for white people today where white people are told to loot and set fire to the area they live in and destroy business regardless of who owns them or to only support white businesses and boycott businesses run by other skin colours?
Could you imagine a black CEO or prominent figure resigning from their position because they think a white person, thus based solely on skin colour, ought to be in the role instead?
It would NEVER happen! It does not fit the narrative. It is far easier to keep telling black people how oppressed they are and how white people have privilege are how they are still the oppressors etc in order to keep the divisive, in-fighting argument going between groups of people so you're all far too busy looking over here at bullshit and not looking over there where the real issues are.
I'm surprised at your surprise on this matter.click to expand
Do you care if a cop kills a White person ?
Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by AgentP911Posted by DMV
I wonder why white people don’t protest death by cop? Why is it only black people?
Because I’ve seen stories of where a white person is killed by a cop and it’s acceptable. No one makes a stink about it. Why is that?
White people, are you okay with death by cop? Do you always believe cops are justified when they kill people, especially white people?
How come y’all accept and look the other way?
Is it because you’ve been conditioned to believe cops?
Maybe white people don't protest as much or at least if they do it does not make main stream media because white lives don't matter.
Only black lives matter, apparently.
Could you imagine the uproar if white people held a large protest because a police officer killed a white person?
Honestly, white people would be vilified.
Would black people or others stand in solidarity with white people or would all we hear about is how worse it is for black people (despite current statistics showing more white are killed based on population percentage etc) and how white people ought not to be making a fuss, and even worse, how white people all have some kind of privileged based solely on the colour of their skin regardless of anything else and other factors.
Could you imagine having a movement for white people today where white people are told to loot and set fire to the area they live in and destroy business regardless of who owns them or to only support white businesses and boycott businesses run by other skin colours?
Could you imagine a black CEO or prominent figure resigning from their position because they think a white person, thus based solely on skin colour, ought to be in the role instead?
It would NEVER happen! It does not fit the narrative. It is far easier to keep telling black people how oppressed they are and how white people have privilege are how they are still the oppressors etc in order to keep the divisive, in-fighting argument going between groups of people so you're all far too busy looking over here at bullshit and not looking over there where the real issues are.
I'm surprised at your surprise on this matter.
Do you care if a cop kills a White person ?click to expand
Has the cop killed the person based solely on their skin colour, as in, because they are white?
Posted by AgentP911Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by AgentP911Posted by DMV
I wonder why white people don’t protest death by cop? Why is it only black people?
Because I’ve seen stories of where a white person is killed by a cop and it’s acceptable. No one makes a stink about it. Why is that?
White people, are you okay with death by cop? Do you always believe cops are justified when they kill people, especially white people?
How come y’all accept and look the other way?
Is it because you’ve been conditioned to believe cops?
Maybe white people don't protest as much or at least if they do it does not make main stream media because white lives don't matter.
Only black lives matter, apparently.
Could you imagine the uproar if white people held a large protest because a police officer killed a white person?
Honestly, white people would be vilified.
Would black people or others stand in solidarity with white people or would all we hear about is how worse it is for black people (despite current statistics showing more white are killed based on population percentage etc) and how white people ought not to be making a fuss, and even worse, how white people all have some kind of privileged based solely on the colour of their skin regardless of anything else and other factors.
Could you imagine having a movement for white people today where white people are told to loot and set fire to the area they live in and destroy business regardless of who owns them or to only support white businesses and boycott businesses run by other skin colours?
Could you imagine a black CEO or prominent figure resigning from their position because they think a white person, thus based solely on skin colour, ought to be in the role instead?
It would NEVER happen! It does not fit the narrative. It is far easier to keep telling black people how oppressed they are and how white people have privilege are how they are still the oppressors etc in order to keep the divisive, in-fighting argument going between groups of people so you're all far too busy looking over here at bullshit and not looking over there where the real issues are.
I'm surprised at your surprise on this matter.
Do you care if a cop kills a White person ?
Has the cop killed the person based solely on their skin colour, as in, because they are white?click to expand
No, white cop kills white person, because they are high on meth and charging at the white cop with a knife.
Would you care?
Or feel it warranted?
Posted by Logger
I know ya'll are feeling like you're on top of the world, but the fact of the matter is, the deceased was no choir boy.
Record a mile long, drugs, domestic violence, it isn't like we lost someone that cured cancer, or made people money picking good mutual funds.
So all lives don’t matter
Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by DMV
I wonder why white people don’t protest death by cop? Why is it only black people?
Because I’ve seen stories of where a white person is killed by a cop and it’s acceptable. No one makes a stink about it. Why is that?
White people, are you okay with death by cop? Do you always believe cops are justified when they kill people, especially white people?
How come y’all accept and look the other way?
Is it because you’ve been conditioned to believe cops?
White people are too busy competing.
White on white crime is just a norm.click to expand
Interesting yes. Agreed.
Because white people do have endless examples of success and how to obtain it so one less white life isn’t all the bad.
I wonder if white people don’t mind being the face of domestic American terrorism because they have so many other examples of success in the media, etc that they can do without the few bad apples.
Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by DMV
So I asked a white person why they don’t protest white death by cop.
He said it’s because they don’t worship criminals like black people.
This is a VERY interesting response.
There have been countless movies made glorifying white killers. Ted Bundy has so many “dreamy” movies about him.
There is also a instilled belief of some white people that people, white or black, killed by cops are criminals. End of story. No debate. So you wouldn’t protest because you’ve been taught to accept the process as truth.
Strangely, I began to think. Do white people protest differently? Do y’all protest with movies, art etc?
Whereas black people are direct and aggressive with their protest. White people are passive.
Which makes even further sense why Jan 6 happened
Black people have a collective history where you support each other and each other’s struggle.
White people are every man for himself.click to expand
Black people also have crab in the barrel mentality based on so many years of lack
Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by DMV
So I asked a white person why they don’t protest white death by cop.
He said it’s because they don’t worship criminals like black people.
This is a VERY interesting response.
There have been countless movies made glorifying white killers. Ted Bundy has so many “dreamy” movies about him.
There is also a instilled belief of some white people that people, white or black, killed by cops are criminals. End of story. No debate. So you wouldn’t protest because you’ve been taught to accept the process as truth.
Strangely, I began to think. Do white people protest differently? Do y’all protest with movies, art etc?
Whereas black people are direct and aggressive with their protest. White people are passive.
Which makes even further sense why Jan 6 happened
Black people have a collective history where you support each other and each other’s struggle.White people are every man for himself.
We’re really good at coming together to maintain our power thoughclick to expand
Extremely good at it.
White people do know how to get on one accord.
I feel like as black people, we have to find the passion in something to get on one accord. Black people came together to make Black Panther a blockbuster. We have to be passionate about the goal because some of us still don’t vote because there is no passion, no clout, no dance for it. It’s boring
Whereas white people instinctively are always ready.
Posted by AgentP911Posted by DMV
I wonder why white people don’t protest death by cop? Why is it only black people?
Because I’ve seen stories of where a white person is killed by a cop and it’s acceptable. No one makes a stink about it. Why is that?
White people, are you okay with death by cop? Do you always believe cops are justified when they kill people, especially white people?
How come y’all accept and look the other way?
Is it because you’ve been conditioned to believe cops?
Maybe white people don't protest as much or at least if they do it does not make main stream media because white lives don't matter.
Only black lives matter, apparently.
Could you imagine the uproar if white people held a large protest because a police officer killed a white person?
Honestly, white people would be vilified.
Would black people or others stand in solidarity with white people or would all we hear about is how worse it is for black people (despite current statistics showing more white are killed based on population percentage etc) and how white people ought not to be making a fuss, and even worse, how white people all have some kind of privileged based solely on the colour of their skin regardless of anything else and other factors.
Could you imagine having a movement for white people today where white people are told to loot and set fire to the area they live in and destroy business regardless of who owns them or to only support white businesses and boycott businesses run by other skin colours?
Could you imagine a black CEO or prominent figure resigning from their position because they think a white person, thus based solely on skin colour, ought to be in the role instead?
It would NEVER happen! It does not fit the narrative. It is far easier to keep telling black people how oppressed they are and how white people have privilege are how they are still the oppressors etc in order to keep the divisive, in-fighting argument going between groups of people so you're all far too busy looking over here at bullshit and not looking over there where the real issues are.
I'm surprised at your surprise on this matter.click to expand
I feel like this is happening with the Asian community and their recent beef with...everyone
For myself, it was difficult to focus on the woes of the Asian community because they’re racist against us as well.
It’s not that they fell on deaf ears, it’s more like an “I told you so” kinda feelings.
White supremacy is for white straight males only.
It won’t stop at black people, brown, Asian, white women. It won’t ever stop eradicating what isn’t it.
For years I’ve told Spanish and Asian people that they were next but I was told that would never happen because black people have historically been the target.
Spanish and Asian have mostly voted republican and I’ve always wondered why, money maybe? Because white supremacy doesn’t want y’all around either.
White women had to protest for the right to vote from white men
Posted by Logger
I know ya'll are feeling like you're on top of the world, but the fact of the matter is, the deceased was no choir boy.
Record a mile long, drugs, domestic violence, it isn't like we lost someone that cured cancer, or made people money picking good mutual funds.
Just admit your angry that cops aren't being allowed to kill black people in broad daylight without consequence.
White lives do matter tho. They always have.
They receive the best treatment out of any other race.
So when y’all complain about a system that you created, it’s like what do you want from the rest of us bottom feeders?
This isn’t our system.
So for me, it’s take personal accountability because I can’t help you.
They receive the best treatment out of any other race.
So when y’all complain about a system that you created, it’s like what do you want from the rest of us bottom feeders?
This isn’t our system.
So for me, it’s take personal accountability because I can’t help you.
From the post and stories about white death by cop, white protest was NOT vilified.
It had an impact and made change.
It doesn’t happen too often nowadays because you’re not the target.
Which is why Charlottesville and Jan 6 were so odd to see because the only time when I see white people gather to that degree are at festivals, sporting event championships wins. Y’all flip and burn cars in celebration and are allowed to do so.
White large scale gatherings are usually celebrations.
The lockdowns and masks protest were the first protests I’ve seen in a long while by white people.
And it got results. It got attention.
It had an impact and made change.
It doesn’t happen too often nowadays because you’re not the target.
Which is why Charlottesville and Jan 6 were so odd to see because the only time when I see white people gather to that degree are at festivals, sporting event championships wins. Y’all flip and burn cars in celebration and are allowed to do so.
White large scale gatherings are usually celebrations.
The lockdowns and masks protest were the first protests I’ve seen in a long while by white people.
And it got results. It got attention.
Posted by peachy06
All my support goes to black people. I love this community !! 💛
I don't understand why Americans are so mean toward them. They never learn from their history.
Most of them don’t know either.
Its so engrained from centuries of bad public relations.
Black people have to take accountability as well. Rap music didn’t help our community
Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by AgentP911Posted by DMV
I wonder why white people don’t protest death by cop? Why is it only black people?
Because I’ve seen stories of where a white person is killed by a cop and it’s acceptable. No one makes a stink about it. Why is that?
White people, are you okay with death by cop? Do you always believe cops are justified when they kill people, especially white people?
How come y’all accept and look the other way?
Is it because you’ve been conditioned to believe cops?
Maybe white people don't protest as much or at least if they do it does not make main stream media because white lives don't matter.
Only black lives matter, apparently.
Could you imagine the uproar if white people held a large protest because a police officer killed a white person?
Honestly, white people would be vilified.
Would black people or others stand in solidarity with white people or would all we hear about is how worse it is for black people (despite current statistics showing more white are killed based on population percentage etc) and how white people ought not to be making a fuss, and even worse, how white people all have some kind of privileged based solely on the colour of their skin regardless of anything else and other factors.
Could you imagine having a movement for white people today where white people are told to loot and set fire to the area they live in and destroy business regardless of who owns them or to only support white businesses and boycott businesses run by other skin colours?
Could you imagine a black CEO or prominent figure resigning from their position because they think a white person, thus based solely on skin colour, ought to be in the role instead?
It would NEVER happen! It does not fit the narrative. It is far easier to keep telling black people how oppressed they are and how white people have privilege are how they are still the oppressors etc in order to keep the divisive, in-fighting argument going between groups of people so you're all far too busy looking over here at bullshit and not looking over there where the real issues are.
I'm surprised at your surprise on this matter.
Do you care if a cop kills a White person ?click to expand
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Posted by peachy06
All my support goes to black people. I love this community !! 💛
I don't understand why Americans are so mean toward them. They never learn from their history.
"They never learn from their history."
The guilt associated with it is still what divides our country and makes things so black and white AND keeps things from changing. The black/white narrative is old and tired but almost traditional and the core of the country, which will follow us until the end of time. I don't think anything REAL will ever change.
Posted by saggurl88Posted by peachy06
All my support goes to black people. I love this community !! 💛
I don't understand why Americans are so mean toward them. They never learn from their history.
"They never learn from their history."
The guilt associated with it is still what divides our country and makes things so black and white AND keeps things from changing. The black/white narrative is old and tired but almost traditional and the core of the country, which will follow us until the end of time. I don't think anything REAL will ever change.click to expand
I can see that.
Black people stuck in victim mentality and not knowing how to stop being martyrs
White people stuck in their guilt and not really know how to express it
Posted by DMVPosted by saggurl88Posted by peachy06
All my support goes to black people. I love this community !! 💛
I don't understand why Americans are so mean toward them. They never learn from their history.
"They never learn from their history."
The guilt associated with it is still what divides our country and makes things so black and white AND keeps things from changing. The black/white narrative is old and tired but almost traditional and the core of the country, which will follow us until the end of time. I don't think anything REAL will ever change.
I can see that.
Black people stuck in victim mentality and not knowing how to stop being martyrs
White people stuck in their guilt and not really know how to express itclick to expand
You made a good point about the art/movies associated with white killers vs black. Whites turn most things into a money opportunity. It's like the same oppressions that keep black people in the dark when they were enslaved are still being done behind the scenes today and will always be.
Like the Oscars for instance. How long did it take for a black person to get one?
For every white person fighting for equality among races there are more fighting to keep it the way things always have been.
I'd rather move to a different country then think things will really change.
It's like blacks are given small wins to appease them for a while and shut them up. Nothing will ever be equal.
And I agree that blacks have a victim/oppression mentality but it's seriously because like Harpo said in the color purple "All my life I had to fight"- Not many can relate. You really have to be 1 in a circle of too many to crawl out of the crab barrel and make it.
The victim/oppression mentality that runs through American Blacks is no where to be found in African Blacks.
Africans have the mindset to make things happen without feeling the failure of oppressions. They bring their own money and don't rely on America for support.
Posted by AntiphatesPosted by saggurl88Posted by peachy06
All my support goes to black people. I love this community !! 💛
I don't understand why Americans are so mean toward them. They never learn from their history.
"They never learn from their history."
The guilt associated with it is still what divides our country and makes things so black and white AND keeps things from changing. The black/white narrative is old and tired but almost traditional and the core of the country, which will follow us until the end of time. I don't think anything REAL will ever change.
Hot take: the US will never overcome those issues until it's population manages to overcome its christian and puritan sentiments.click to expand
You really think it has to do with Religion? It's hard for me to think that way because there only seems to be a strong divide among 2 races. If it was against everyone, I would agree with you.
There were small instances in history- Like what happened after WWII- But it wasn't something that happened over and over again for hundreds of years
President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed in 1942, two months after Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor. The order resulted in the incarceration of 75,000 Americans of Japanese ancestry and 45,000 Japanese nationals in prison camps across the country, many being relocated far from home.
Federal government evicted and incarcerated Japanese American citizens living in the western United States, their homes were neglected. Left untended, formerly lively domestic spaces were ransacked, defaced, and even looted while homeowners made do in the crowded barracks of incarceration camps.
It's crazy the amount of power that Caucasians band together and enforce, with hardly any questions asked.
Posted by bmoon8
As far as “white guilt” is concerned, I don’t have any. Why should I? My great great grandfather on my father’s side fought in the Civil War and freed the slaves.
Otherwise, I am equal opportunist. I don’t care if you are black, white, yellow, gay, bisexual, Muslim, Arab, Jew, etc if you are nice to me, I am nice to you. If you are a disrespectful and mean person, expect that to be dished back.
I actually think some of the ones who have "White guilt" are the ones who are actively trying to change things and make them more equal among the races. They have this mentality for all races though, not just black. Their minds are open to rights of the people.
I chuckled at this- "My great great grandfather on my father’s side fought in the Civil War and freed the slaves."
This is almost the equivalent to saying "I'm not racist, I have a black best friend."
One doesn't have anything to do with the other. But I get what you're saying.
Posted by AntiphatesPosted by saggurl88Posted by AntiphatesPosted by saggurl88Posted by peachy06
All my support goes to black people. I love this community !! 💛
I don't understand why Americans are so mean toward them. They never learn from their history.
"They never learn from their history."
The guilt associated with it is still what divides our country and makes things so black and white AND keeps things from changing. The black/white narrative is old and tired but almost traditional and the core of the country, which will follow us until the end of time. I don't think anything REAL will ever change.
Hot take: the US will never overcome those issues until it's population manages to overcome its christian and puritan sentiments.
You really think it has to do with Religion? It's hard for me to think that way because there only seems to be a strong divide among 2 races. If it was against everyone, I would agree with you.
There were small instances in history- Like what happened after WWII- But it wasn't something that happened over and over again for hundreds of years
President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed in 1942, two months after Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor. The order resulted in the incarceration of 75,000 Americans of Japanese ancestry and 45,000 Japanese nationals in prison camps across the country, many being relocated far from home.
Federal government evicted and incarcerated Japanese American citizens living in the western United States, their homes were neglected. Left untended, formerly lively domestic spaces were ransacked, defaced, and even looted while homeowners made do in the crowded barracks of incarceration camps.
It's crazy the amount of power that Caucasians band together and enforce, with hardly any questions asked.
Not as organized or codified religion, but as sentiments. It might look contradictory at first but black and white are basically jerking each other off in a christian pleasure circle. Not all of course. There are people of both colours that don't buy into what is going on in its entirety and all the catechisms.
Then add puritanism with it's inability to handle nuance and shades of grey. Sprinkle it a with a bit of social media and our still ongoing struggle to handle those networks and how they change our societies, and the party can last practically forever.click to expand
I've read what's in the bible and been to plenty of churches. The "Christian pleasure circle" that you speak of can divide anyone- it even divides LGBT.
I think it's too vast of a reach to think it has to with religion alone. But who knows. People justify whatever they want todo in the name of God.
We don't have many issues with Puritans in America. Here we have cults that make up their own religion that people follow blindly. America is a religious free for all, that people find their own niche for to justify their beliefs, even if that means creating their own bibles to live for.
America is a nation built on hypocrisy and freedom for all.
There is supposedly a clear separation of church and state. A huge hole left for anything that doesn't fit religion but still happens.
Social media, I agree has made it worse, and people aren't moving fast enough to keep up with the constant change in society. They barely even know how since it's so new. It's like trying to teach and old dog new tricks.
Ignorant people will always fail at change.
Posted by bmoon8Posted by saggurl88Posted by bmoon8
As far as “white guilt” is concerned, I don’t have any. Why should I? My great great grandfather on my father’s side fought in the Civil War and freed the slaves.
Otherwise, I am equal opportunist. I don’t care if you are black, white, yellow, gay, bisexual, Muslim, Arab, Jew, etc if you are nice to me, I am nice to you. If you are a disrespectful and mean person, expect that to be dished back.
I actually think some of the ones who have "White guilt" are the ones who are actively trying to change things and make them more equal among the races. They have this mentality for all races though, not just black. Their minds are open to rights of the people.
I chuckled at this- "My great great grandfather on my father’s side fought in the Civil War and freed the slaves."
This is almost the equivalent to saying "I'm not racist, I have a black best friend."
One doesn't have anything to do with the other. But I get what you're saying.
Would you like to see his picture in his civil war uniform? It’s the truth. And it is not equivalent to “oh, I have a black friend, so I am not racist”.
As a white person in America, the truth of the matter is you are damned if you do and damn if you don’t.
The BLM movement can also kiss my ass. They have antiSemitic roots and have damaged/ransacked Jewish Temples/Synagogues. Linda Sarsour has ties to the BLM movement. Linda Sarsour is an antiSemite who refuses to disassociate herself from Louis Farrakhan.
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I'm half Black and half Jewish. I refuse to "pick a struggle" My ancestors were burned alive and beat to death- All while some people think certain events never even happened or weren't as bad as they seemed.
People who have the saying "You are damned if you do and damn if you don’t" don't have anything do with White America.
I think it mostly has to do with people basically waning to stay out of it, which is fine too. There are plenty of other people who get involved in these sorts of issues.
I've read how hard you go in on people who have anything to say about Jewish wrongs and the history. But as a white person in America you have the mindset of "You are damned if you do and damn if you don’t"- What would you say to Palestine people who think the whole holocaust was fake and stared you in your eyes and said "you are damned if you do and damn if you don’t"
Posted by AntiphatesPosted by saggurl88Posted by AntiphatesPosted by saggurl88Posted by AntiphatesPosted by saggurl88Posted by peachy06
All my support goes to black people. I love this community !! 💛
I don't understand why Americans are so mean toward them. They never learn from their history.
"They never learn from their history."
The guilt associated with it is still what divides our country and makes things so black and white AND keeps things from changing. The black/white narrative is old and tired but almost traditional and the core of the country, which will follow us until the end of time. I don't think anything REAL will ever change.
Hot take: the US will never overcome those issues until it's population manages to overcome its christian and puritan sentiments.
You really think it has to do with Religion? It's hard for me to think that way because there only seems to be a strong divide among 2 races. If it was against everyone, I would agree with you.
There were small instances in history- Like what happened after WWII- But it wasn't something that happened over and over again for hundreds of years
President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed in 1942, two months after Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor. The order resulted in the incarceration of 75,000 Americans of Japanese ancestry and 45,000 Japanese nationals in prison camps across the country, many being relocated far from home.
Federal government evicted and incarcerated Japanese American citizens living in the western United States, their homes were neglected. Left untended, formerly lively domestic spaces were ransacked, defaced, and even looted while homeowners made do in the crowded barracks of incarceration camps.
It's crazy the amount of power that Caucasians band together and enforce, with hardly any questions asked.
Not as organized or codified religion, but as sentiments. It might look contradictory at first but black and white are basically jerking each other off in a christian pleasure circle. Not all of course. There are people of both colours that don't buy into what is going on in its entirety and all the catechisms.
Then add puritanism with it's inability to handle nuance and shades of grey. Sprinkle it a with a bit of social media and our still ongoing struggle to handle those networks and how they change our societies, and the party can last practically forever.
I've read what's in the bible and been to plenty of churches. The "Christian pleasure circle" that you speak of can divide anyone- it even divides LGBT.
I think it's too vast of a reach to think it has to with religion alone. But who knows. People justify whatever they want todo in the name of God.
We don't have many issues with Puritans in America. Here we have cults that make up their own religion that people follow blindly. America is a religious free for all, that people find their own niche for to justify their beliefs, even if that means creating their own bibles to live for.
America is a nation built on hypocrisy and freedom for all.
There is supposedly a clear separation of church and state. A huge hole left for anything that doesn't fit religion but still happens.
Social media, I agree has made it worse, and people aren't moving fast enough to keep up with the constant change in society. They barely even know how since it's so new. It's like trying to teach and old dog new tricks.
Ignorant people will always fail at change.
Again, I'm not talking about religions but the sentiments that can stand behind them and express themselves through it.
Since you are a sexual person you can maybe think of those elements as SM, masochism and general pleasure through power imbalances with punishments etc.
Zizek probably can explain it a bit better than me:
With catechisms I meant the new code and the scripture of "anti-racism" like:
Black people can't be racist towards white people
White people are inherently racist
White people are priviliged
Etc.
Depending on where one stand one might buy into some of them and then participate in the pleasure circle, but if you don't buy into them you are locked out of it and the whole thing will look and feel very weird to you.click to expand
I think most of America is racist. America loves it's racist jokes and categorizing. They can't seem to let it go.
I will check out the video later. I can't watch while I'm at work. I'm sure I'll get a better understanding of what you mean after I watch.
I do agree that a person is locked out when they have and individualistic mindset that separates themselves from the majority.
Posted by saggurl88Posted by peachy06
All my support goes to black people. I love this community !! 💛
I don't understand why Americans are so mean toward them. They never learn from their history.
"They never learn from their history."
The guilt associated with it is still what divides our country and makes things so black and white AND keeps things from changing. The black/white narrative is old and tired but almost traditional and the core of the country, which will follow us until the end of time. I don't think anything REAL will ever change.click to expand
Totally honest, and totally correct.
Posted by DMV
I wonder why white people don’t protest death by cop? Why is it only black people?
Because I’ve seen stories of where a white person is killed by a cop and it’s acceptable. No one makes a stink about it. Why is that?
White people, are you okay with death by cop? Do you always believe cops are justified when they kill people, especially white people?
How come y’all accept and look the other way?
Is it because you’ve been conditioned to believe cops?
No, it's bc white ppl dont have racism to explain away all our problems.
Most deaths regarded as wrongful in the wake of BLM actually make perfect sense. I mean they'd make sense if a white man was killed, but it's racism when the man is black?
Huge chunk of the problem is that all u pampered butts don't understand every time you take a call, every time you stop someone over a broken tail light, could mean your death.
And how many times does a cop do that in a day?
Ever seen those dash/bodycam vids of "justified" fatal police shootings? Literally 95% of the time, had I been the cop, I would have been dead bc I had no fucking clue. They seemed chill enough, cooperative enough..
You just don't get it.
Posted by AntiphatesPosted by saggurl88Posted by AntiphatesPosted by saggurl88Posted by AntiphatesPosted by saggurl88Posted by AntiphatesPosted by saggurl88Posted by peachy06
All my support goes to black people. I love this community !! 💛
I don't understand why Americans are so mean toward them. They never learn from their history.
"They never learn from their history."
The guilt associated with it is still what divides our country and makes things so black and white AND keeps things from changing. The black/white narrative is old and tired but almost traditional and the core of the country, which will follow us until the end of time. I don't think anything REAL will ever change.
Hot take: the US will never overcome those issues until it's population manages to overcome its christian and puritan sentiments.
You really think it has to do with Religion? It's hard for me to think that way because there only seems to be a strong divide among 2 races. If it was against everyone, I would agree with you.
There were small instances in history- Like what happened after WWII- But it wasn't something that happened over and over again for hundreds of years
President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed in 1942, two months after Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor. The order resulted in the incarceration of 75,000 Americans of Japanese ancestry and 45,000 Japanese nationals in prison camps across the country, many being relocated far from home.
Federal government evicted and incarcerated Japanese American citizens living in the western United States, their homes were neglected. Left untended, formerly lively domestic spaces were ransacked, defaced, and even looted while homeowners made do in the crowded barracks of incarceration camps.
It's crazy the amount of power that Caucasians band together and enforce, with hardly any questions asked.
Not as organized or codified religion, but as sentiments. It might look contradictory at first but black and white are basically jerking each other off in a christian pleasure circle. Not all of course. There are people of both colours that don't buy into what is going on in its entirety and all the catechisms.
Then add puritanism with it's inability to handle nuance and shades of grey. Sprinkle it a with a bit of social media and our still ongoing struggle to handle those networks and how they change our societies, and the party can last practically forever.
I've read what's in the bible and been to plenty of churches. The "Christian pleasure circle" that you speak of can divide anyone- it even divides LGBT.
I think it's too vast of a reach to think it has to with religion alone. But who knows. People justify whatever they want todo in the name of God.
We don't have many issues with Puritans in America. Here we have cults that make up their own religion that people follow blindly. America is a religious free for all, that people find their own niche for to justify their beliefs, even if that means creating their own bibles to live for.
America is a nation built on hypocrisy and freedom for all.
There is supposedly a clear separation of church and state. A huge hole left for anything that doesn't fit religion but still happens.
Social media, I agree has made it worse, and people aren't moving fast enough to keep up with the constant change in society. They barely even know how since it's so new. It's like trying to teach and old dog new tricks.
Ignorant people will always fail at change.
Again, I'm not talking about religions but the sentiments that can stand behind them and express themselves through it.
Since you are a sexual person you can maybe think of those elements as SM, masochism and general pleasure through power imbalances with punishments etc.
Zizek probably can explain it a bit better than me:
With catechisms I meant the new code and the scripture of "anti-racism" like:
Black people can't be racist towards white people
White people are inherently racist
White people are priviliged
Etc.
Depending on where one stand one might buy into some of them and then participate in the pleasure circle, but if you don't buy into them you are locked out of it and the whole thing will look and feel very weird to you.
I think most of America is racist. America loves it's racist jokes and categorizing. They can't seem to let it go.
I will check out the video later. I can't watch while I'm at work. I'm sure I'll get a better understanding of what you mean after I watch.
I do agree that a person is locked out when they have and individualistic mindset that separates themselves from the majority.
Everything can have a racist element to itself, but not all of it has to be negative or even important. Humour is a good example for how something that can look extremely racist to people while connecting people through the transgression of the social norms. That's why the conflict about what is and what isn't socially acceptable will always be there.
In the end I'm still struggling to understand what is going on and what are potentially good or bad elements of it.click to expand
People are too sensitive when it comes to racist jokes, which is understandable.
It's like people want to cross a boundary and they think it's ok, because it's "just a joke" and shouldn't be taken out of context, which is contradictory to what the joke is actually doing.
I'm not sure why something as taboo as racism is what people love joking about. All comedy isn't necessarily good comedy.
Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by AgentP911Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by AgentP911Posted by DMV
I wonder why white people don’t protest death by cop? Why is it only black people?
Because I’ve seen stories of where a white person is killed by a cop and it’s acceptable. No one makes a stink about it. Why is that?
White people, are you okay with death by cop? Do you always believe cops are justified when they kill people, especially white people?
How come y’all accept and look the other way?
Is it because you’ve been conditioned to believe cops?
Maybe white people don't protest as much or at least if they do it does not make main stream media because white lives don't matter.
Only black lives matter, apparently.
Could you imagine the uproar if white people held a large protest because a police officer killed a white person?
Honestly, white people would be vilified.
Would black people or others stand in solidarity with white people or would all we hear about is how worse it is for black people (despite current statistics showing more white are killed based on population percentage etc) and how white people ought not to be making a fuss, and even worse, how white people all have some kind of privileged based solely on the colour of their skin regardless of anything else and other factors.
Could you imagine having a movement for white people today where white people are told to loot and set fire to the area they live in and destroy business regardless of who owns them or to only support white businesses and boycott businesses run by other skin colours?
Could you imagine a black CEO or prominent figure resigning from their position because they think a white person, thus based solely on skin colour, ought to be in the role instead?
It would NEVER happen! It does not fit the narrative. It is far easier to keep telling black people how oppressed they are and how white people have privilege are how they are still the oppressors etc in order to keep the divisive, in-fighting argument going between groups of people so you're all far too busy looking over here at bullshit and not looking over there where the real issues are.
I'm surprised at your surprise on this matter.
Do you care if a cop kills a White person ?
Has the cop killed the person based solely on their skin colour, as in, because they are white?
No, white cop kills white person, because they are high on meth and charging at the white cop with a knife.
Would you care?
Or feel it warranted?click to expand
I think the question is being oversimplified but for the benefit of answering and without any other context and without the laws of different countries or jurisdiction etc I would think it could be justified if the police office is concerned for his life and/or the life of others and thus acts in defence. I also think being a police officer, especially ones licenced to carry firearms and who are likely to come into contact with others with weapons, is an incredibly difficult job. Would I care? About which person, the police officer or the meth head?
Posted by DMVPosted by AgentP911Posted by DMV
I wonder why white people don’t protest death by cop? Why is it only black people?
Because I’ve seen stories of where a white person is killed by a cop and it’s acceptable. No one makes a stink about it. Why is that?
White people, are you okay with death by cop? Do you always believe cops are justified when they kill people, especially white people?
How come y’all accept and look the other way?
Is it because you’ve been conditioned to believe cops?
Maybe white people don't protest as much or at least if they do it does not make main stream media because white lives don't matter.
Only black lives matter, apparently.
Could you imagine the uproar if white people held a large protest because a police officer killed a white person?
Honestly, white people would be vilified.
Would black people or others stand in solidarity with white people or would all we hear about is how worse it is for black people (despite current statistics showing more white are killed based on population percentage etc) and how white people ought not to be making a fuss, and even worse, how white people all have some kind of privileged based solely on the colour of their skin regardless of anything else and other factors.
Could you imagine having a movement for white people today where white people are told to loot and set fire to the area they live in and destroy business regardless of who owns them or to only support white businesses and boycott businesses run by other skin colours?
Could you imagine a black CEO or prominent figure resigning from their position because they think a white person, thus based solely on skin colour, ought to be in the role instead?
It would NEVER happen! It does not fit the narrative. It is far easier to keep telling black people how oppressed they are and how white people have privilege are how they are still the oppressors etc in order to keep the divisive, in-fighting argument going between groups of people so you're all far too busy looking over here at bullshit and not looking over there where the real issues are.
I'm surprised at your surprise on this matter.
I feel like this is happening with the Asian community and their recent beef with...everyone
For myself, it was difficult to focus on the woes of the Asian community because they’re racist against us as well.
It’s not that they fell on deaf ears, it’s more like an “I told you so” kinda feelings.
White supremacy is for white straight males only.
It won’t stop at black people, brown, Asian, white women. It won’t ever stop eradicating what isn’t it.
For years I’ve told Spanish and Asian people that they were next but I was told that would never happen because black people have historically been the target.
Spanish and Asian have mostly voted republican and I’ve always wondered why, money maybe? Because white supremacy doesn’t want y’all around either.
White women had to protest for the right to vote from white menclick to expand
I think everyone has a turn eventually. Whether it's based on skin colour, religion, sexuality, you name it, the list is endless.
The more people focus on it, and in my view, all this focus on unconscious bias and special treatment for people etc is just fuelling it even more.
You can pigeon hole people all you want such as a black, bisexual Christian woman or a white, trans, Muslim etc etc but by the time you've ended up slicing everyone into little groups all you end up with is the individual. Which is what we all are.
Depending on the history of your country, it wasn't just white males who had the vote. It was only the wealthy who had the vote. Then slowly over time this has changed. I still don't think the issue is skin colour although that's what most will have everyone believe. I really think it is still class/wealth.
Just the other day I had to attend a 90 minute consciously unbias session. Frankly, I'm too old for this shit. In my day we just had people. OK people and arsehole people. During a 'breakout session' a white, female from South Africa who I do not know decided to tell me, a white female, and my colleague, a white male, how we both have white privilege just because we are white. I could not hold my tongue. I'm sorry but I do not buy into the concept of white privilege. Not when sitting in our session is a black fella of Nigerian heritage and three Asian males (Indian and Pakistani) who are all way more senior than us. Do tell me how I am more privileged than these guys? Do tell me how my white kids, the kids of a car mechanic and me, will be significantly more fortunate and privileged in life than the kids of these four top earning, well placed non-White guys who send their kids to private school with two kids already at Oxford University? Do tell me because I'm really failing to see it. Especially when I grew up poor! It's one recent example but I think the class divide is real and its been getting wider.
Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by DMV
I wonder why white people don’t protest death by cop? Why is it only black people?
Because I’ve seen stories of where a white person is killed by a cop and it’s acceptable. No one makes a stink about it. Why is that?
White people, are you okay with death by cop? Do you always believe cops are justified when they kill people, especially white people?
How come y’all accept and look the other way?
Is it because you’ve been conditioned to believe cops?
No, it's bc white ppl dont have racism to explain away all our problems.
Most deaths regarded as wrongful in the wake of BLM actually make perfect sense. I mean they'd make sense if a white man was killed, but it's racism when the man is black?
Huge chunk of the problem is that all u pampered butts don't understand every time you take a call, every time you stop someone over a broken tail light, could mean your death.
And how many times does a cop do that in a day?
Ever seen those dash/bodycam vids of "justified" fatal police shootings? Literally 95% of the time, had I been the cop, I would have been dead bc I had no fucking clue. They seemed chill enough, cooperative enough..
You just don't get it.click to expand
That’s the thing tho...
It’s still NOT acceptable even if it is a white death. But that death doesn’t matter because white people typically side with law enforcement. Which makes it okay to y’all. But it don’t make it okay with us because we know we are killed by cops for having darker skin that leads to bias.
White people, with the exception of a few outlined here, are okay with death by cop because those people are condemned as criminals.
So when it does happen to white people, y’all for the most part look the other way.
The game is called “cops and robbers”
Not, cops and innocent until proven guilty, alleged robbers
Conditioning
Not, cops and innocent until proven guilty, alleged robbers
Conditioning
Posted by AgentP911Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by AgentP911Posted by Moloko_vellocetPosted by AgentP911Posted by DMV
I wonder why white people don’t protest death by cop? Why is it only black people?
Because I’ve seen stories of where a white person is killed by a cop and it’s acceptable. No one makes a stink about it. Why is that?
White people, are you okay with death by cop? Do you always believe cops are justified when they kill people, especially white people?
How come y’all accept and look the other way?
Is it because you’ve been conditioned to believe cops?
Maybe white people don't protest as much or at least if they do it does not make main stream media because white lives don't matter.
Only black lives matter, apparently.
Could you imagine the uproar if white people held a large protest because a police officer killed a white person?
Honestly, white people would be vilified.
Would black people or others stand in solidarity with white people or would all we hear about is how worse it is for black people (despite current statistics showing more white are killed based on population percentage etc) and how white people ought not to be making a fuss, and even worse, how white people all have some kind of privileged based solely on the colour of their skin regardless of anything else and other factors.
Could you imagine having a movement for white people today where white people are told to loot and set fire to the area they live in and destroy business regardless of who owns them or to only support white businesses and boycott businesses run by other skin colours?
Could you imagine a black CEO or prominent figure resigning from their position because they think a white person, thus based solely on skin colour, ought to be in the role instead?
It would NEVER happen! It does not fit the narrative. It is far easier to keep telling black people how oppressed they are and how white people have privilege are how they are still the oppressors etc in order to keep the divisive, in-fighting argument going between groups of people so you're all far too busy looking over here at bullshit and not looking over there where the real issues are.
I'm surprised at your surprise on this matter.
Do you care if a cop kills a White person ?
Has the cop killed the person based solely on their skin colour, as in, because they are white?
No, white cop kills white person, because they are high on meth and charging at the white cop with a knife.
Would you care?
Or feel it warranted?
I think the question is being oversimplified but for the benefit of answering and without any other context and without the laws of different countries or jurisdiction etc I would think it could be justified if the police office is concerned for his life and/or the life of others and thus acts in defence. I also think being a police officer, especially ones licenced to carry firearms and who are likely to come into contact with others with weapons, is an incredibly difficult job. Would I care? About which person, the police officer or the meth head?click to expand
I’m just wondering if White people justify the killing by cop if the perpetrator is believed to have caused their own death by acting foolish. Or if they believe a bad character is less valuable than a cop’s life. Like the cop is allowed to make a self defence decision, but they still should be able to disarm a knife over another gun without killing.
It seems when a Black person is killed, White people always vilify the unarmed Black person, that gets a kill shot, but they seem to strategize a bit differently when a White person is purposely charging with weapons at a cop.
In either situation I believe a cop is meant to shoot to disarm. Not a kill shot. Leg or arm.
American cops are all trigger happy.
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