
Passes mirror


Posted by LetltBPosted by Undine
The only think that can delay the ageing process is not (yet) due to science/cosmetic industry, but to the sheer will and determination to keep yourself desirable for the opposite sex!
TRANSLATION: Spread your legs or open your mouth (pick one) so a man will touch me, and hold me or my head down for that 10 minute confirmation of desirability...cuz if I don't, I'll look old and just let my body and myself go.
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Posted by Undine
You are going it wrong if you hook up for only 10 min! What are you, a street prostitute?

Posted by LetltBPosted by Undine
You are going it wrong if you hook up for only 10 min! What are you, a street prostitute?
....said the mirror to undine...😉click to expand

Posted by LetltBPosted by Undine
Women who don't have or don't want a sexual partner usually let themselves go. They get fat, stop shaving their legs, exercise too little or too late, wear baggy clothes, don't use make up, let their teeth rotten. They are bitter, depressed and lonely, which in turns adds bags under their eyes, wrinkles and grey hair. They stop looking in the mirror. Respect for their body goes down the drain.
lol...Pangel is right. You are a fucking idiot.
Posted by size zero superhero
Live & let live IMO.
FWB doesn't guarantee a Disney happily-ever-after; nor will it corrupt every aspect of existence & dignity(not without your consent, anyway).
The general consensus disapproves of no-strings, which I suspect is partially due to a collective perception of one party invariably being used by the one with the upper hand. Yes--sometimes that's the deal--but acting like this topic is absolute, rather than case-sensitive is plain absurd.click to expand


Posted by size zero superheroPosted by rockyroadicecream
Posted by size zero superhero
Live & let live IMO.
FWB doesn't guarantee a Disney happily-ever-after; nor will it corrupt every aspect of existence & dignity(not without your consent, anyway).
The general consensus disapproves of no-strings, which I suspect is partially due to a collective perception of one party invariably being used by the one with the upper hand. Yes--sometimes that's the deal--but acting like this topic is absolute, rather than case-sensitive is plain absurd.
THIS. Sweet Jesus, why doesn't anyone get this?
I blame Taylor Swiftclick to expand

Posted by rockyroadicecreamPosted by LetltBPosted by Undine
Women who don't have or don't want a sexual partner usually let themselves go. They get fat, stop shaving their legs, exercise too little or too late, wear baggy clothes, don't use make up, let their teeth rotten. They are bitter, depressed and lonely, which in turns adds bags under their eyes, wrinkles and grey hair. They stop looking in the mirror. Respect for their body goes down the drain.
lol...Pangel is right. You are a fucking idiot.
I could have told you that as well, given the lovely impression she left in the Libra forum.:p
She's got issues. All she does is look down on other woman and acts like she's better than others because she chose to be a doormat housewife type.
Whatever makes her happy.
It's just sad when other women look down and belittle based on SOCIETAL constructs we've ALL been trying to fight against for some time. Fuck those bitches. Just sets the women's movement back a few more decades any time they speak. :/
Posted by size zero superhero
Live & let live IMO.
FWB doesn't guarantee a Disney happily-ever-after; nor will it corrupt every aspect of existence & dignity(not without your consent, anyway).
The general consensus disapproves of no-strings, which I suspect is partially due to a collective perception of one party invariably being used by the one with the upper hand. Yes--sometimes that's the deal--but acting like this topic is absolute, rather than case-sensitive is plain absurd.
THIS. Sweet Jesus, why doesn't anyone get this?click to expand

Posted by Sag89
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What I found offensive on this thread, was the suggestion that women fall in love (and potentially make a fool of themselves) simply because they had sex and therefore, they should avoid FWB! I disagree.

Posted by size zero superheroPosted by rockyroadicecream
Posted by size zero superhero
Live & let live IMO.
FWB doesn't guarantee a Disney happily-ever-after; nor will it corrupt every aspect of existence & dignity(not without your consent, anyway).
The general consensus disapproves of no-strings, which I suspect is partially due to a collective perception of one party invariably being used by the one with the upper hand. Yes--sometimes that's the deal--but acting like this topic is absolute, rather than case-sensitive is plain absurd.
THIS. Sweet Jesus, why doesn't anyone get this?
I blame Taylor Swiftclick to expand

Posted by Undine
I think you are talking about P-Angel here! Radioicecream was having a go at me in the fragment you cited . So did LetItBe, after I explained why FWB has positive effects.


Posted by LetltBPosted by Undine
I think you are talking about P-Angel here! Radioicecream was having a go at me in the fragment you cited . So did LetItBe, after I explained why FWB has positive effects.
If you are so proud of fucking three different men (in your own words) in a FWB, why are you being so defensive and attempting to justify it then? Makes no sense at all.click to expand

Posted by P-Angel
It's because of these types of women (with no morals) that men continue to believe it's ok to treat a woman like his personal whore.







Posted by Undine
Why is that the women who are against FWB are bitter, venom spitting rags, while those who have practiced it (at least once) are fun, confident and smart 🙂?





Posted by Undine
So you think you are lonely and bitter, because men are busy having FWB with interested women?
Don't flatter yourself. Even if they were available, they won't want to bang you 🙂!

Posted by Undine
I had a FWB for certain reasons and enjoyed it. That is why I recommend it for people in a similar situation.
What is your personal motivation to speak against it? Had one and got burned? Want one, but no takers?
What options do you offer, to people who don't like celibacy, yet cannot engage in a long term relationship just yet?
Take a honest look at yourself and inside yourself and come back when you can answer these questions.

Posted by starlover
fwb is okay if you dont care what men think of you, otherwise you are just gonna be the girl who opened her legs too easily cos she was lonely or desperate

Posted by LetltB
.... my suggestions shouldn't bring on such a negative and defensive reaction. So in reality you are not proud of what you are.



Posted by size zero superheroPosted by P-Angel
It's because of these types of women (with no morals) that men continue to believe it's ok to treat a woman like his personal whore.
This viewpoint assumes FWB & mutual gain cannot coincide, as though the incentive is purely one-sided in favor of male advantage & in turn the woman's detriment.
While that's a known risk, best taken into consideration in advance, the "beneficial" component is meant to function as a 2-way-street. Whether or not it operates as such falls on the individuals involved, particularly concerning each party's respective approach.
From observation, the most common source of no strings-disasters stem from unspoken, unsubstantiated expectations(of FWB ultimately morphing into a full-fledged relationship, etc). When one or both involved are dishonest about their motives and/or have further objectives they're misguidedly attempting to reach through sex, that's where the problems begin.
As for men that see women as chattel, or women believe men are automatically entitled to their bodies by virtue of their maleness--these issues are strictly personal in nature. Those involved in FWB for the aspect of mutual enjoyment certainly aren't feeding into the problem of gender inequity on a universal spectrum.click to expand

Posted by starlover
There is always going to be gender inequality....like it or not, it is ridiculous of course, but men are not going to respect *throw away* women which ever way it is perceived....i spoke to two guys recently who told me *it doesnt mean anything* when i asked them about the fwb thing. one of the said that he did eventually lose respect for the girl for having sex with him rather than just friendship
go figure ladies? 😉
men are simple creatures but they need at the end of the day to respect women, not fuck them and then discard them
it has always been that way....always will be

Posted by size zero superheroPosted by starlover
There is always going to be gender inequality....like it or not, it is ridiculous of course, but men are not going to respect *throw away* women which ever way it is perceived....i spoke to two guys recently who told me *it doesnt mean anything* when i asked them about the fwb thing. one of the said that he did eventually lose respect for the girl for having sex with him rather than just friendship
go figure ladies? 😉
men are simple creatures but they need at the end of the day to respect women, not fuck them and then discard them
it has always been that way....always will be
Yes, inequality is an ever-present force in society. But FWB in itself isn't directly indicative of one's respect(or lack thereof)for the opposite gender.
A key component of the problem here is that unlike men, women are raised & conditioned to view their sexuality as something that must be guarded & locked away, because sexual purity supposedly ties in with our value as humans.
While men are high-fived for acting on physical urge as much as opportunity allows, women are scorned for engaging in sex outside the confines of exclusivity.
It isn't so much that sex innately leads women to feel badly about themselves after the fact, or comes at the price of self-respect. Moreso, from an early age, society & upbringing convinces girls that sexual behavior is a reflection of their integrity, and all deviation suggests a profound lack thereof.
To summarize, the key distinction between males & females relative to sexuality is that the former is TAUGHT to feel devalued by sex if it isn't precluded by love & commitment.
"That's just the way things are" is oversimplification, and accepting it without further question or analysis only keeps said double-standards relevant.click to expand


Posted by MrFirebird
Consider this song

Posted by size zero superheroPosted by Undine
So what was YOUR experience?
Varied.
I've dealt with one instance of FWB-gone-wrong, when I hooked up with a friend on a few occasions. He expected a subsequent relationship, asked me to be his girlfriend. I declined the offer and ceased involvement upon realizing he wanted more. As it turned out, he'd recently hooked up with other girls, but ultimately wanted to be with me.
At that juncture I wasn't in any position for relationships(due to the demand of school & work)which I initially let him know. More significantly, his lack of "boyfriend potential" grew increasingly evident over time.
The first time I stated I wasn't interested in a relationship, he didn't take it well. The second time, he flipped out & threw an adult tantrum; shocked that I wasn't elated over the fact he found me worthy enough to offer his commitment. After that episode I cut his immature, entitled @ $ $ off for good.
Beyond that, my other FWB experiences came & went(no pun intended 🙂)yet managed to end on civil terms, wherein the "friendship" aspect eventually resumed after the benefits came to a halt.
(I'm summarizing here--sometimes things were "weird" between us directly after the fact--but only temporarily.)
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Posted by Undine
Another reason why some women are against FWB....they are ageing prostitutes losing their clients!
Is this the case with you, LetItBe?
In this case, I would recommend a job change. It wasn't supposed to be a lifelong career anyway, wasn't it 🙂?


If you are looking for "meaning", "respect" and similar stuff, try helping the homeless!

Posted by size zero superhero
Yes, inequality is an ever-present force in society. But FWB in itself isn't directly indicative of one's respect(or lack thereof)for the opposite gender.
A key component of the problem here is that unlike men, women are raised & conditioned to view their sexuality as something that must be guarded & locked away, because sexual purity supposedly ties in with our value as humans.
While men are high-fived for acting on physical urge as much as opportunity allows, women are scorned for engaging in sex outside the confines of exclusivity.
It isn't so much that sex innately leads women to feel badly about themselves after the fact, or comes at the price of self-respect. Moreso, from an early age, society & upbringing convinces girls that sexual behavior is a reflection of their integrity, and all deviation suggests a profound lack thereof.
To summarize, the key distinction between males & females relative to sexuality is that the former is TAUGHT to feel devalued by sex if it isn't precluded by love & commitment.
"That's just the way things are" is oversimplification, and accepting it without further question or analysis only keeps said double-standards relevant.

Posted by duchessedenemours
Women (and all people for that matter) should be aware of their own boundaries. If you can handle casual sex without repercussions then that's fine. It's when people allows themselves to go past their own boundaries that people get hurt. Know yourself.
And calling women whores doesn't help anyone and only breeds more negativity in yourself.


Posted by Undine
+1
Although I would like to add that what goes on in the bedroom, stays in the bedroom. Society is out of it, lol.
How real, mature women think about sex depends largely on what they've experienced.
Posted by Undine
When he's about to cum, hold your breath, take his cock deeper into your mouth and let him finish into your throat. I did it to my Aqua F-buddy. A few weeks later, I had to dump him, because he's fallen in love and I could not reciprocate his feelings.
Posted by Undine
LOL! I just had sex with my Sagittarius longterm FWB one hour ago......
Posted by Undine
FWB is not about getting an orgasm.
It is about the whole experience.
...including the whore experience 🙂.click to expand


Posted by LetltBPosted by Undine
+1
Although I would like to add that what goes on in the bedroom, stays in the bedroom. Society is out of it, lol.
How real, mature women think about sex depends largely on what they've experienced.
More bullshit and hypocrisy ^^^
Posted by Undine
When he's about to cum, hold your breath, take his cock deeper into your mouth and let him finish into your throat. I did it to my Aqua F-buddy. A few weeks later, I had to dump him, because he's fallen in love and I could not reciprocate his feelings.
Posted by Undine
LOL! I just had sex with my Sagittarius longterm FWB one hour ago......
Posted by Undine
FWB is not about getting an orgasm.
It is about the whole experience.
...including the whore experience 🙂.
I guess social media is an exception.. Like I said, I get it..this is you trying to convince yourself. Real women don't have to do that.
Denial sucks ass.click to expand

Posted by size zero superheroPosted by LetltB
^^^and right there would be that horseshit I speak of. lol..give me a break.
My upbringing was NOT to put my sexuality under lock and key or to feel bad about myself lol...(seriously??) It was to respect it, make choices wisely and to accept responsibility for those choices. I am refuse to be a victim and I refuse to accept disrespect from men.
Friends with benefits and "engaging in sex outside the confines of exclusivity" are quite different, don't even try to mix the two. That's why you have women like me here to set that record straight.
Nice try though.
Your conflation of FWB & inherent disrespect strongly suggests otherwise.
Additionally, how is friends with benefits not considered sex independent of an official relationship? I suppose it differs from a one-nighter in terms of regularity, however, the overlap is fairly obvious IMO.
Where is it set in stone, that all sexual activity taking place outside of relationships spawn from low self-esteem and recklessness? Women who do, or have done so are HARDLY victims of male opportunism.
The implication you're clinging to here is that women cannot possibly enjoy sex for it's own sake, nor exercise selection in their choice of FWB partners; as though the sole means of avoiding disrespect & victimhood as a woman is through commitment. Um...
In instances where a man(or anyone for that matter)is disrespectful in any sense of the meaning, why engage them at all, let alone entertain the idea of sex?
Furthermore your apparent perception that sex sans-commitment as automatically disrespectful, without considering any other factors, speaks volumes.
There is no inherent exploitation to speak of in FWB, given the benefits are mutual.click to expand
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