@LetltB
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Aren't you a Scorpio?! WHAT"S WRONG WITH YOU—??
Nope..you missed the boat on my point. You're a Libra..no time for you.
No hard feelings, potna'
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Ditto..here ya go
Posted by Undine
Aren't you a Scorpio?! WHAT"S WRONG WITH YOU—??
I feel like she completely acts her sign. Black and white thinking lol
undine, sag89, size zero superhero and rocky road,
From your comments, it's very apparent that each of you really don't understand squat about what sex, friendships, marital relationships and commitment and........ mutual respect and self respect are truly all about.
You have scorned people who value higher standards of morals, ethics and integrity, who strive for perfection and who have a much higher self-respect, and self-control, themselves. Mind you, that these people "can" include your own parents, grandparents and ancestors who are the source of
your existence.
Instead, forsaking wisdom and embracing foolishness, you have glamorized a life style that, you "think", is best and right for you, but a choice which is totally ignorant of what severe consequences may come.
Lest you stop and consider the wisdom being offered time and again, concerning this matter, you will surely learn what these consequences are when your calamities come upon you suddenly and without warning, the nature of which, as diverse as the stars and unforgiving.
In that day, you cannot say that no one warned you.
Nope..you missed the boat on my point. You're a Libra..no time for you.
No hard feelings, potna'
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ahhhhh, Texas much?
The Titanic is a SHIP, not a boat.
This... is a "BOAT"!
MY MOUTH AND MY OPINION!
SKANKS!!1
Again, You're free to do whatever you want, BUT you're enslaved to the consequential accountability for whatever you do.
Now that's an impressive weapon. 🙂
Well..it's time to take my sacred, universally valid & above reproach ass to bed. 🙂
Posted by MrFirebird
undine, sag89, size zero superhero and rocky road,From your comments, it's very apparent that each of you really don't understand squat about what sex, friendships, marital relationships and commitment and........ mutual respect and self respect are truly all about.
You have scorned people who value higher standards of morals, ethics and integrity, who strive for perfection and who have a much higher self-respect, and self-control, themselves. Mind you, that these people "can" include your own parents, grandparents and ancestors who are the source of
your existence.
Instead, forsaking wisdom and embracing foolishness, you have glamorized a life style that, you "think", is best and right for you, but a choice which is totally ignorant of what severe consequences may come.
Lest you stop and consider the wisdom being offered time and again, concerning this matter, you will surely learn what these consequences are when your calamities come upon you suddenly and without warning, the nature of which, as diverse as the stars and unforgiving.
In that day, you cannot say that no one warned you.
I've been through good or bad experience that could come out of casual sex or fwbs. I don't need you're "warnings " miss cleo.
*Something tells me you & those of a similar mindset, aren't itching to pack up & assimilate into those cultures(certainly not if you're female).
+1 to all your posts.
A FWB is not where you just fuck guys at random
And any friend whos a male that thinks your a slut for having or wanting or even needing a FWB to begin with is not a real friend.
There is a difference b/w a FWB and being a slut the two are not the same thing at all and I am sorry you people think that they are if you do. NO wonder you fucked up
@sag..I don't know where you were going with one of your deleted threads, didn't get a chance to read but reminded me of something I saw the other day..
Better To Be Treated Like butter Than Alone!!
This topic has been removed by Sag89(topic creator).
Pretty much this boils down to ..... those women thought they were in a relationship but found out that they were just being used for their kitty, and can't handle how embarrassing the truth is, in that they were willing fools
Posted by LetltB
@sag..I don't know where you were going with one of your deleted threads, didn't get a chance to read but reminded me of something I saw the other day..Better To Be Treated Like butter Than Alone!!
This topic has been removed by Sag89(topic creator).
** sorry said video twice, it's earlier
It was a funny video about how if people said they were in a relationship, people like you would automatically praise them even if their boyfriend treated them like shit.
Cause if you have a relationship you must respect yourself! No one can disrespect themselves in a relationship! Only when they are sleeping around!
Your grasping. 99% of my posts are directed to women in dxp asking "what the hell are you doing—"
when they remain with assholes who treat them like shit. I don't need a relationship to respect my self. That's the difference between women like me and women like you. Needy is not in my vocabulary.
I respect myself at all times as well as those who treat me with respect. Anything short of that..fuck off. Yep..black and white. No gray area allowed in that department.
It was a funny video about how if people said they were in a relationship, people like you would automatically praise them even if their boyfriend treated them like shit.
Cause if you have a relationship you must respect yourself! No one can disrespect themselves in a relationship! Only when they are sleeping around!
Your grasping. 99% of my posts are directed to women in dxp asking "what the hell are you doing—"
when they remain with assholes who treat them like shit. I don't need a relationship to respect my self. That's the difference between women like me and women like you. Needy is not in my vocabulary.
I respect myself at all times as well as those who treat me with respect. Anything short of that..fuck off. Yep..black and white. No gray area allowed in that department.click to expand
I don't even have a boyfriend. I've been single for like a year and a half now. I'm 24 years old. Sometimes I get horny and I go out and have sex. BFD. You are needy. You need a mans approval so bad that you lower yourself to thinking that your sexuality defines you and your self esteem. While I simply don't. If a guy doesn't want to be with me because I've had casual sex or fwb in the course of my life HIS problem. Anyone who wants to define me by that, shallow fucker that I won't be taking seriously.
That is just how I feel about it.
We feel different.
What people fail to acknowledge is that what we call boyfriend/girlfriend relationship is actually a glorified FWB.
Especially when "boyfriend" and "girlfriend" are not sharing their life by living together. Meaning they are not yet committed (to a life together).
If you read dxpnet, you'll discover that many FWB lasted far longer than so-called boyfriend/girlfriend relationships. Did any of you wonder why? Because FWB are more honest about their desire to make (or not) that particular relationship a long term one, so there are no false expectations to begin with.
FWB is an often exclusive, yet not committed relationship, expected to last a certain period of time. For example, till one moves town or state.
In a busy, over-populated world in which both men and women are taking pride in their life style , independence and career choices, FWB (or however the term may change) IS THE FUTURE!
Of course, FWB is not something for women who plan a life changing "career" as dependent housewives. Or rich divorcees, for that matter.
Such women may feel frustrated when a man doesn't come along to rescue them from their boring jobs. They come to think they can't snatch a husband, because men are now engaged in FWB!
LOL! SO BE IT, LETITBE 🙂!!!
Posted by MrFirebird
undine, sag89, size zero superhero and rocky road,From your comments, it's very apparent that each of you really don't understand squat about what sex, friendships, marital relationships and commitment and........ mutual respect and self respect are truly all about.
You have scorned people who value higher standards of morals, ethics and integrity, who strive for perfection and who have a much higher self-respect, and self-control, themselves. Mind you, that these people "can" include your own parents, grandparents and ancestors who are the source of
your existence.
Instead, forsaking wisdom and embracing foolishness, you have glamorized a life style that, you "think", is best and right for you, but a choice which is totally ignorant of what severe consequences may come.
Lest you stop and consider the wisdom being offered time and again, concerning this matter, you will surely learn what these consequences are when your calamities come upon you suddenly and without warning, the nature of which, as diverse as the stars and unforgiving.
In that day, you cannot say that no one warned you.I've been through good or bad experience that could come out of casual sex or fwbs. I don't need you're "warnings " miss cleo.
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You ain't seen nothin', yet, child.
Posted by MrFirebird
undine, sag89, size zero superhero and rocky road,From your comments, it's very apparent that each of you really don't understand squat about what sex, friendships, marital relationships and commitment and........ mutual respect and self respect are truly all about.
You have scorned people who value higher standards of morals, ethics and integrity, who strive for perfection and who have a much higher self-respect, and self-control, themselves. Mind you, that these people "can" include your own parents, grandparents and ancestors who are the source of
your existence.
Instead, forsaking wisdom and embracing foolishness, you have glamorized a life style that, you "think", is best and right for you, but a choice which is totally ignorant of what severe consequences may come.
Lest you stop and consider the wisdom being offered time and again, concerning this matter, you will surely learn what these consequences are when your calamities come upon you suddenly and without warning, the nature of which, as diverse as the stars and unforgiving.
In that day, you cannot say that no one warned you.I've been through good or bad experience that could come out of casual sex or fwbs. I don't need you're "warnings " miss cleo.
You ain't seen nothin', yet, child.
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You have no idea what i've been through or what I've seen it's way too much for my age as it is. stfu.
I will totally agree with you LetItBe with that men do really want women they can settle down with.
I almost think they are looking for that more than women these days.
It was a funny video about how if people said they were in a relationship, people like you would automatically praise them even if their boyfriend treated them like shit.
Cause if you have a relationship you must respect yourself! No one can disrespect themselves in a relationship! Only when they are sleeping around!
Your grasping. 99% of my posts are directed to women in dxp asking "what the hell are you doing—"
when they remain with assholes who treat them like shit. I don't need a relationship to respect my self. That's the difference between women like me and women like you. Needy is not in my vocabulary.
I respect myself at all times as well as those who treat me with respect. Anything short of that..fuck off. Yep..black and white. No gray area allowed in that department.I don't even have a boyfriend. I've been single for like a year and a half now. I'm 24 years old. Sometimes I get horny and I go out and have sex. BFD. You are needy. You need a mans approval so bad that you lower yourself to thinking that your sexuality defines you and your self esteem. While I simply don't. If a guy doesn't want to be with me because I've had casual sex or fwb in the course of my life HIS problem. Anyone who wants to define me by that, shallow fucker that I won't be taking seriously.
That is just how I feel about it.
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"I'm 24 years old." (I know all things)
"I don't even have a boyfriend."
"Sometimes I get horny and I go out and have sex."
"You need a mans approval so bad that you lower yourself to thinking that your sexuality defines you and your self esteem. While I simply don't."
"If a guy doesn't want to be with me because I've had casual sex or fwb in the course of my life HIS problem."
hmmmm new topic titles!
When you don't know what to call your thread, just recycle these for the topic title.
Posted by starlover
I was talking to a group of young guys the other night who told me they went for older women, as the younger ones were too easy and also quite clueless in the way they behaved.Men will always look for women who think highly of themselves and dont put it about
It was always the case and always will be
Guys know they can do the fwb thing or have casual sex anytime but it rarely means much and they probably on some level lose utter respect for those girls that partake in it
Well If sex is the base of the relationship yes its likely thats all it will be. It's a matter of serious and not serious. Than there is that part where people bite off more than they can chew.
It was a funny video about how if people said they were in a relationship, people like you would automatically praise them even if their boyfriend treated them like shit.
Cause if you have a relationship you must respect yourself! No one can disrespect themselves in a relationship! Only when they are sleeping around!
Your grasping. 99% of my posts are directed to women in dxp asking "what the hell are you doing—"
when they remain with assholes who treat them like shit. I don't need a relationship to respect my self. That's the difference between women like me and women like you. Needy is not in my vocabulary.
I respect myself at all times as well as those who treat me with respect. Anything short of that..fuck off. Yep..black and white. No gray area allowed in that department.I don't even have a boyfriend. I've been single for like a year and a half now. I'm 24 years old. Sometimes I get horny and I go out and have sex. BFD. You are needy. You need a mans approval so bad that you lower yourself to thinking that your sexuality defines you and your self esteem. While I simply don't. If a guy doesn't want to be with me because I've had casual sex or fwb in the course of my life HIS problem. Anyone who wants to define me by that, shallow fucker that I won't be taking seriously.
That is just how I feel about it.
"I'm 24 years old." (I know all things)
"I don't even have a boyfriend."
"Sometimes I get horny and I go out and have sex."
"You need a mans approval so bad that you lower yourself to thinking that your sexuality defines you and your self esteem. While I simply don't."
"If a guy doesn't want to be with me because I've had casual sex or fwb in the course of my life HIS problem."
hmmmm new topic titles!
When you don't know what to call your thread, just recycle these for the topic title.click to expand
Whats your point?
Posted by Undine
What people fail to acknowledge is that what we call boyfriend/girlfriend relationship is actually a glorified FWB.Especially when "boyfriend" and "girlfriend" are not sharing their life by living together. Meaning they are not yet committed (to a life together).
If you read dxpnet, you'll discover that many FWB lasted far longer than so-called boyfriend/girlfriend relationships. Did any of you wonder why? Because FWB are more honest about their desire to make (or not) that particular relationship a long term one, so there are no false expectations to begin with.
FWB is an often exclusive, yet not committed relationship, expected to last a certain period of time. For example, till one moves town or state.
In a busy, over-populated world in which both men and women are taking pride in their life style , independence and career choices, FWB (or however the term may change) IS THE FUTURE!
Again you are trying to justify something you are not proud of, because if you were you'd not find a reason to justify. I get it...but you don't. Your future will be alone, and you will remember this conversation. 😉
Posted by starlover
I was talking to a group of young guys the other night who told me they went for older women, as the younger ones were too easy and also quite clueless in the way they behaved.Men will always look for women who think highly of themselves and dont put it about
It was always the case and always will be
Guys know they can do the fwb thing or have casual sex anytime but it rarely means much and they probably on some level lose utter respect for those girls that partake in it
And you were sold on such transparent pandering? LMAO that's extra-rich.
Posted by size zero superhero
You're explicitly justifying this behavior in males, yet the claws come out when rogue women are off doing *man things* and you feel the need to voice disapproval?And I can't help but point out the irony of "on some level lose utter respect" versus the mention of youngins characteristically clueless nature.
Whatever's clever, I guess.
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I don't see anything that warrants this reaction; she didn't say it was wrong, nor did she justify mens preferences.
And you don't have to be wise to lose respect for someone.
Sounds mostly observational in nature, but it's true.
Fair? Probably not.
But if it isn't true, then we assume that men want women who don't value themselves.
I'm speaking of the long term, of course.
You are needy. You need a mans approval so bad that you lower yourself to thinking that your sexuality defines you and your self esteem. While I simply don't. If a guy doesn't want to be with me because I've had casual sex or fwb in the course of my life HIS problem. Anyone who wants to define me by that, shallow fucker that I won't be taking seriously.
That is just how I feel about it.
Why do you take what I say and spin it? Re-read what I wrote:
"That's the difference between women like me and women like you. Needy is not in my vocabulary."
I don't need ANYONE'S approval, and sexuality does not define me. My genitals don't think for me.
I have a brain for that and a great deal of self respect. I'm secure with who I am, and I'm secure within a relationship to know that if it doesn't work out, I'm going to be just fine on my own. I don't need to fuck men "just because". ..not my style or class, and never will be. However, I've not heard one valid reason from any of you women who fuck men on a whim as to the underlying reason WHY? Especially when there are dildo's out there that can do the same exact thing. It's simply because you NEED TO BE DESIRED, HELD or whatever it is you missed the boat on in life and self love. Some of you don't know what the word love means. Sad.
Men can't complete a woman's life until a woman is complete herself.
That's the bottom line. They sure are happy to practice on women who put out easy though..and as long as they stay STD free..good for us keepers they do end up with. 😉
Posted by starlover
I was talking to a group of young guys the other night who told me they went for older women, as the younger ones were too easy and also quite clueless in the way they behaved.Men will always look for women who think highly of themselves and dont put it about
It was always the case and always will be
Guys know they can do the fwb thing or have casual sex anytime but it rarely means much and they probably on some level lose utter respect for those girls that partake in it
+1 we must live on the same planet. Between my brothers and male friends, they say exactly what you just shared.
Posted by xcake
Somebody's bound to get hurt from a FWB arrangement, it's not always the female but the male as well. I think it's easier for females to be able to verbally express themselves than males who wished it was more than just a FWB. It would be seen as "weak" if a male discusses his feelings out in the open.
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^is extremely rare and if we look at it a little more closely, it's the bad boys that fwb women want to compete with for the control game. Bad boys will play along every time and win in the end every time.
"But if it isn't true, then we assume that men want women who don't value themselves."
Who cares what men want? This thread is about what women want.
Women who attract men for the purpose of financial security following marriage and potential lifelong alimony following divorce value themselves LESS than women who enter a FWB for their own sexual satisfaction when they are not interested in settling down and starting a family.
I grew up in a culture in which women are proud of their achievements and do not measure their value according to the reaction they trigger in the opposite sex. Is this not the case on your side of the ocean?
Posted by xcake
Somebody's bound to get hurt from a FWB arrangement, it's not always the female but the male as well. I think it's easier for females to be able to verbally express themselves than males who wished it was more than just a FWB. It would be seen as "weak" if a male discusses his feelings out in the open.This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^is extremely rare and if we look at it a little more closely, it's the bad boys that fwb women want to compete with for the control game. Bad boys will play along every time and win in the end every time.
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For every women disappointed by a FWB relationship, there will be 100000000 more women heartbroken during a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship.
Posted by UndineThis thread is about what women want.
I grew up in a culture in which women are proud of their achievements and do not measure their value according to the reaction they trigger in the opposite sex. Is this not the case on your side of the ocean?
No, this thread is about the epic failure of FWB and the multiple threads in dxp proving it. Sick of hearing victim stories and the false implications of it.
I'm proud first and foremost to have the achievement of self value. Without that..you have nothing.
You've made it quite clear what your achievements/goals are, and in reality I pity women like you. Like I said..one day, you'll remember this conversation. That, I'm sure of.
For every women disappointed by a FWB relationship, there will be 100000000 more women heartbroken during a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship.
This may be true, but at least it will be with dignity.
Women who attract men for the purpose of financial security following marriage and potential lifelong alimony following divorce value themselves LESS than women who enter a FWB for their own sexual satisfaction when they are not interested in settling down and starting a family.
This ^^^ I had to separate. Women who marry for the purpose of financial security or lifelong alimony are a separate group of women. The OTHER group who have no clue what it's like to take care of themselves, never found independence or are to fucking lazy to take care of themselves. Almost as low as your class of women, but they don't spread diseases, and aren't as fucked up in the head. No woman should ever be in a relationship with anyone until they know they can take care of themselves on their own should the relationship fail.
*too
Posted by Undine
"But if it isn't true, then we assume that men want women who don't value themselves."Who cares what men want? This thread is about what women want.
Women who attract men for the purpose of financial security following marriage and potential lifelong alimony following divorce value themselves LESS than women who enter a FWB for their own sexual satisfaction when they are not interested in settling down and starting a family.
I grew up in a culture in which women are proud of their achievements and do not measure their value according to the reaction they trigger in the opposite sex. Is this not the case on your side of the ocean?
So?
lol
Two things:
1. Are you afraid to quote me, properly, including my handle? Because you never do.
2. Are you aware that when you cannot prove someone wrong, you begin to arbitrarily choose rationalizations that have little or nothing to do with the discussion at hand-- taking it to ground where you apparently feel more comfortable?
Why don't you just start your own thread with this randomness?
Posted by MrFirebird
undine, sag89, size zero superhero and rocky road,From your comments, it's very apparent that each of you really don't understand squat about what sex, friendships, marital relationships and commitment and........ mutual respect and self respect are truly all about.
You have scorned people who value higher standards of morals, ethics and integrity, who strive for perfection and who have a much higher self-respect, and self-control, themselves. Mind you, that these people "can" include your own parents, grandparents and ancestors who are the source of
your existence.
Instead, forsaking wisdom and embracing foolishness, you have glamorized a life style that, you "think", is best and right for you, but a choice which is totally ignorant of what severe consequences may come.
Lest you stop and consider the wisdom being offered time and again, concerning this matter, you will surely learn what these consequences are when your calamities come upon you suddenly and without warning, the nature of which, as diverse as the stars and unforgiving.
In that day, you cannot say that no one warned you.I've been through good or bad experience that could come out of casual sex or fwbs. I don't need you're "warnings " miss cleo.
You ain't seen nothin', yet, child.
You have no idea what i've been through or what I've seen it's way too much for my age as it is. stfu.
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Awww,
You must someone extra, extra, extra special!
I have a mars in scorpio. I'm so glad I didn't turn out like you guys when it comes to sex.
Posted by Sag89
I have a mars in scorpio. I'm so glad I didn't turn out like you guys when it comes to sex.
Ahhhh, but tell us what makes you so special.
At this point, this thread is nothing but archaic views on women vs modern views.
Ok, what if your a person who has done it all and seen it all, and then sits back and thinks whats next on the horizon?
Like because you have done it all you are wondering what is there possibly you havent done to do next and this can include or exclude FWB among other things
Posted by Sag89
I have a mars in scorpio. I'm so glad I didn't turn out like you guys when it comes to sex.
I have mars in Sag in the 8th house and four other planets in the 8th house
Five 8th house planets total (8th house =SEX AND DEATH)..I know what I'm talking about
Plus five planets in Scorpio which puts a . at the end of this conversation.
There's light out there...when you choose to step out of the dark, you'll be amazed.
Posted by rockyroadicecream
At this point, this thread is nothing but archaic views on women vs modern views.
That's what men who LOOOOVVVVE FWB are brainwashing some women with. Looks like you fell hook line and sinker.
Posted by starloverAny woman who knows men, knows this 😉
I know men.😉
Posted by Undine
"But if it isn't true, then we assume that men want women who don't value themselves."Who cares what men want? This thread is about what women want.
Women who attract men for the purpose of financial security following marriage and potential lifelong alimony following divorce value themselves LESS than women who enter a FWB for their own sexual satisfaction when they are not interested in settling down and starting a family.
I grew up in a culture in which women are proud of their achievements and do not measure their value according to the reaction they trigger in the opposite sex. Is this not the case on your side of the ocean?
So?
lol
Two things:
1. Are you afraid to quote me, properly, including my handle? Because you never do.
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It's because your postings are filled with emptiness (eg large empty spaces between lines). Empty and bulky at the same time! Learn to write properly first! Example included above.
Posted by starlover
I was talking to a group of young guys the other night who told me they went for older women, as the younger ones were too easy and also quite clueless in the way they behaved.Men will always look for women who think highly of themselves and dont put it about
It was always the case and always will be
Guys know they can do the fwb thing or have casual sex anytime but it rarely means much and they probably on some level lose utter respect for those girls that partake in it
+1 we must live on the same planet. Between my brothers and male friends, they say exactly what you just shared.
Yes indeed because it is true 🙂. Any woman who knows men, knows this 😉
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Casual sex doesn't mean diddly to man who doesn't have self-respect and IF he had self-respect,
he wouldn't be engaging in the activity in the first place.
Casual sex includes ANY behavioral act or even thoughts of a sexually lustful (desirous) nature
outside the confines of marital commitment. Both spiritual and/or physical consequences follow when rules are broken. Stop signs are placed at 4 way intersections for a reason. Just think of those
stop signs as "Ministers of the Truth". One can imagine what happens when people disobey the law and
run the stop sign. Imagine what happens when... what— "Everybody does it!" as said and believed
by daffy-dill from dopeyville who wants to swim in those uncharted waters.
Posted by Sag89
I have a mars in scorpio. I'm so glad I didn't turn out like you guys when it comes to sex.Ahhhh, but tell us what makes you so special.
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Nothing. I'm just glad I see people outside of their choices. If anything I'm sure you're " special " so dark and deep ^_^ us shallow people can't compete 😄
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