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Posted by Jade_Alexander
BUTTTTT I want a retirement income after being a happily divorced wifey and only my new zaddy is gonna have it

Posted by Jade_AlexanderPosted by nanochipPosted by Jade_Alexander
BUTTTTT I want a retirement income after being a happily divorced wifey and only my new zaddy is gonna have it
I have seen men online say that divorce for women is a "retirement income option", when alimony or child support is like ~ $ 600/month or some absolute miniscule amount in the larger picture of bills, not even considering inflation, just a small supplement, really. And they are acting like its a whole ass Roth IRA lmao.
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I get 0 in alimony because he refused to stopped fighting unless I waived it.
He technically only pays for 3 out of the 5 cause once again, fought me. It's just a few hundred bucks and he hardly paid since our split and owes me a pretty penny. AND WANTS TO FIGHT AGAIN in court.
Divorce literally bankrupted me and left me in poverty vs him rebounding fine.click to expand


Posted by Jade_AlexanderPosted by nanochipPosted by Jade_AlexanderPosted by nanochipI get 0 in alimony because he refused to stopped fighting unless I waived it.Posted by Jade_AlexanderI have seen men online say that divorce for women is a "retirement income option", when alimony or child support is like ~ $ 600/month or some absolute miniscule amount in the larger picture of bills, not even considering inflation, just a small supplement, really. And they are acting like its a whole ass Roth IRA lmao.
BUTTTTT I want a retirement income after being a happily divorced wifey and only my new zaddy is gonna have it
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He technically only pays for 3 out of the 5 cause once again, fought me. It's just a few hundred bucks and he hardly paid since our split and owes me a pretty penny. AND WANTS TO FIGHT AGAIN in court.
Divorce literally bankrupted me and left me in poverty vs him rebounding fine.
Yep, it doesn't surprise me at all. What you describe is the unfortunate and ugly truth for so many women and how the system is designed to protect men, first and foremost. If the system does ever work out in the women's favor (very rare), who is to stop men from threatening and bullying behind the scenes to get their way?
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Ultimately, don't marry poorly. I was not well supported when I left by the courts but I was warned.click to expand

Posted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by nanochip
If the system does ever work out in the women's favor (very rare), who is to stop men from threatening and bullying behind the scenes to get their way?
what I see happening among local young moms (usually unmarried to the dad) is that they'd rather beg on GoFundMe than dare inconvenience the dad with a child support summons. that's why I'm glad to see anytime women take that risk of displeasing him and take him to court- I don't wanna pay for that kid, I have no sperm. my Pisces ex was never taken to court by his Taurus bm but he willingly gave her a $ 2.5k/month allowance in efforts to buy her love (not that much all the time, but a lot). then he'd complain to me about it and I figured he should just go through the court because they'd ask for less of him, but he likes being a martyr so win-win. their son is 20 now but she still gets that allowance. she's also 2 years older than him, unfaithful, a 6 and has Leo moon. I mean its maddening but slay
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Posted by cerseiPosted by GeminiJim
Treat your wife well, is that what you are saying? What a revelation
All the stuff you said about economics and so on is probably true but I think you are missing the part about 2 people wanting to make a commitment to each other. It's not a long list of pros and cons and rationalising the personal benefits. You become a unit, a partnership, a team, as one not two independent people. Where does love and commitment fit into your equation?
It’s not 50% and 50% coming together and making 100% it’s about 100% and 100% coming together to make 200%
But if you just want an 100% relationship that’s your prerogative.
But it’s absolutely ridiculous to say two independent people can’t have love and commitment to each other. I don’t even get where you can even think that.. it’s silly reallyclick to expand


Posted by cerseiPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by cerseiPosted by GeminiJim
Treat your wife well, is that what you are saying? What a revelation
All the stuff you said about economics and so on is probably true but I think you are missing the part about 2 people wanting to make a commitment to each other. It's not a long list of pros and cons and rationalising the personal benefits. You become a unit, a partnership, a team, as one not two independent people. Where does love and commitment fit into your equation?
It’s not 50% and 50% coming together and making 100% it’s about 100% and 100% coming together to make 200%
But if you just want an 100% relationship that’s your prerogative.
But it’s absolutely ridiculous to say two independent people can’t have love and commitment to each other. I don’t even get where you can even think that.. it’s silly really
There isn't a person on this earth who is 100% , maybe the most independent people at 70% at the most. two 70% people don't make 140% either, not even 100% unless its a very very rare thing. They might have some traits and chemistry to fill in each other and get them over 90% together, but you're never getting to 100% and you shouldn't expect that. Expecting that is only going to make you resent your partner for something that cannot be fixed, instead of all the good stuff that you do have together.
Reality though is most of us are only going to find a person who is 50% , I think if you can find someone that ads even % 10 percent to you as a person and to your life and you can do the same for them, you can be 60% together and that's better than 50% alone. Just don't be with someone who takes away from your % and you're good.
whatever the % even means lol
I don’t mean literally 100% .. I’m not saying you need to be perfect. Everyone has their issues and that’s totally normal and it’s impossible to be perfect.
By 100% I mean they are secure with themselves, mature, and emotionally healthy ppl The best version of themselves
And yes there actually aren’t many ppl like that and that’s why a lot marriages are not a happy union and divorce rates are so high.
Anyone can marry whoever they want healthy or not. Toxic or not. I’m just saying it’s ideal that both ppl are the healthy versions of themselves
But there’s nothing wrong with having a unhappy marriage as long as both of you are okay with it 🤷🏻♀️ it happens all the time and ppl can’t help who they fall for
I just don’t get why anyone wouldn’t want to be the best version of themselves for their partner. Why would you want to bring your unhealthy baggage and have your partner suffer because you want companionship? That seems selfish to meclick to expand



Posted by saggurl88
It’s just a more committed long term relationship.
The same reason a person wants a boyfriend/ girlfriend can be transferred to the idea of marriage.
Divorce has become pretty common now so I don’t think people think it’s for a lifetime anymore. Marriages nowadays rarely last past 10 years.
I laughed at marriage and the benefit of a man getting sex, isn’t that the number one thing married men complain about? Not getting it once they get married?
I think marriage benefits both parties financially, it’s just easier sharing the costs of life.
I personally like the idea of being with one person and having them as a partner and best friend. Switching people all the time and getting to know a person all over again gets old quickly for me. So marriage to me just means we are making a commitment to try and do life together.

Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by saggurl88
It’s just a more committed long term relationship.
The same reason a person wants a boyfriend/ girlfriend can be transferred to the idea of marriage.
Divorce has become pretty common now so I don’t think people think it’s for a lifetime anymore. Marriages nowadays rarely last past 10 years.
I laughed at marriage and the benefit of a man getting sex, isn’t that the number one thing married men complain about? Not getting it once they get married?
I think marriage benefits both parties financially, it’s just easier sharing the costs of life.
I personally like the idea of being with one person and having them as a partner and best friend. Switching people all the time and getting to know a person all over again gets old quickly for me. So marriage to me just means we are making a commitment to try and do life together.
“I laughed at marriage and the benefit of a man getting sex, isn’t that the number one thing married men complain about? Not getting it once they get married”?
So did I, don’t get married if you want a psssionate sex life lol
That’s what lovers are for 😃
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Posted by saggurl88Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by saggurl88
It’s just a more committed long term relationship.
The same reason a person wants a boyfriend/ girlfriend can be transferred to the idea of marriage.
Divorce has become pretty common now so I don’t think people think it’s for a lifetime anymore. Marriages nowadays rarely last past 10 years.
I laughed at marriage and the benefit of a man getting sex, isn’t that the number one thing married men complain about? Not getting it once they get married?
I think marriage benefits both parties financially, it’s just easier sharing the costs of life.
I personally like the idea of being with one person and having them as a partner and best friend. Switching people all the time and getting to know a person all over again gets old quickly for me. So marriage to me just means we are making a commitment to try and do life together.
“I laughed at marriage and the benefit of a man getting sex, isn’t that the number one thing married men complain about? Not getting it once they get married”?
So did I, don’t get married if you want a psssionate sex life lol
That’s what lovers are for 😃
I think that’s the problem in marriage, cheating, so they need to be having sex instead of holding out.click to expand

Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by saggurl88Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by saggurl88
It’s just a more committed long term relationship.
The same reason a person wants a boyfriend/ girlfriend can be transferred to the idea of marriage.
Divorce has become pretty common now so I don’t think people think it’s for a lifetime anymore. Marriages nowadays rarely last past 10 years.
I laughed at marriage and the benefit of a man getting sex, isn’t that the number one thing married men complain about? Not getting it once they get married?
I think marriage benefits both parties financially, it’s just easier sharing the costs of life.
I personally like the idea of being with one person and having them as a partner and best friend. Switching people all the time and getting to know a person all over again gets old quickly for me. So marriage to me just means we are making a commitment to try and do life together.
“I laughed at marriage and the benefit of a man getting sex, isn’t that the number one thing married men complain about? Not getting it once they get married”?
So did I, don’t get married if you want a psssionate sex life lol
That’s what lovers are for 😃
I think that’s the problem in marriage, cheating, so they need to be having sex instead of holding out.
For some people, having sex with the same person year after year after year doesn’t hold much appeal…click to expand

Posted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by saggurl88
It’s just a more committed long term relationship.
The same reason a person wants a boyfriend/ girlfriend can be transferred to the idea of marriage.
Divorce has become pretty common now so I don’t think people think it’s for a lifetime anymore. Marriages nowadays rarely last past 10 years.
I laughed at marriage and the benefit of a man getting sex, isn’t that the number one thing married men complain about? Not getting it once they get married?
I think marriage benefits both parties financially, it’s just easier sharing the costs of life.
I personally like the idea of being with one person and having them as a partner and best friend. Switching people all the time and getting to know a person all over again gets old quickly for me. So marriage to me just means we are making a commitment to try and do life together.
see, u are healthy i think nanobot need u as a dating coach tooclick to expand

Posted by saggurl88Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by saggurl88Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by saggurl88
It’s just a more committed long term relationship.
The same reason a person wants a boyfriend/ girlfriend can be transferred to the idea of marriage.
Divorce has become pretty common now so I don’t think people think it’s for a lifetime anymore. Marriages nowadays rarely last past 10 years.
I laughed at marriage and the benefit of a man getting sex, isn’t that the number one thing married men complain about? Not getting it once they get married?
I think marriage benefits both parties financially, it’s just easier sharing the costs of life.
I personally like the idea of being with one person and having them as a partner and best friend. Switching people all the time and getting to know a person all over again gets old quickly for me. So marriage to me just means we are making a commitment to try and do life together.
“I laughed at marriage and the benefit of a man getting sex, isn’t that the number one thing married men complain about? Not getting it once they get married”?
So did I, don’t get married if you want a psssionate sex life lol
That’s what lovers are for 😃
I think that’s the problem in marriage, cheating, so they need to be having sex instead of holding out.
For some people, having sex with the same person year after year after year doesn’t hold much appeal…
I’m wondering if things change after a certain age. I heard that sex isn’t that important once a man can’t get it up anymore in the later years, then the relationship falls more on companionship. So I guess getting married later in life is a better fit 😅click to expand

Posted by Enfant-Terrible-II
Lol wtf are you talking about, women these days can't take care of a home for shit.
I've seen more single men have tidier homes than single women.
Men cook elaborate meals, women can barely boil an egg or simply have "no interest in cooking".
Men take care of themselves physically even after entering a relationship, women fall apart on an average within 8 months.
Lol @ "emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere" . You are delusional. All men really need these days are their bros and a Saturday night hookup.
Yes, generalizations, but this has been my experience as a 21th century male with friends of both sexes. Maybe says more about my social circle than men/women, I dunno.

Posted by saggurl88
It’s just a more committed long term relationship.
The same reason a person wants a boyfriend/ girlfriend can be transferred to the idea of marriage.
Divorce has become pretty common now so I don’t think people think it’s for a lifetime anymore. Marriages nowadays rarely last past 10 years.
I laughed at marriage and the benefit of a man getting sex, isn’t that the number one thing married men complain about? Not getting it once they get married?
I think marriage benefits both parties financially, it’s just easier sharing the costs of life.
I personally like the idea of being with one person and having them as a partner and best friend. Switching people all the time and getting to know a person all over again gets old quickly for me. So marriage to me just means we are making a commitment to try and do life together.

Posted by FUCKTHISLIFE
yo nano, i be honest u need to change location and get back to the city or near nature, money doesnt make u happy plus as a dev myself, i think coding is garbage because u becoming an angry femcell who hates man for wtv reason,


Posted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by nanochip
If the system does ever work out in the women's favor (very rare), who is to stop men from threatening and bullying behind the scenes to get their way?
what I see happening among local young moms (usually unmarried to the dad) is that they'd rather beg on GoFundMe than dare inconvenience the dad with a child support summons. that's why I'm glad to see anytime women take that risk of displeasing him and take him to court- I don't wanna pay for that kid, I have no sperm. my Pisces ex was never taken to court by his Taurus bm but he willingly gave her a $ 2.5k/month allowance in efforts to buy her love (not that much all the time, but a lot). then he'd complain to me about it and I figured he should just go through the court because they'd ask for less of him, but he likes being a martyr so win-win. their son is 20 now but she still gets that allowance. she's also 2 years older than him, unfaithful, a 6 and has Leo moon. I mean its maddening but slay
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Posted by Saturn_Returns
@nanochip, you're obviously clueless about the real world and clearly fucked in the head.
With that said, I'll now leave you to continue living in your warped delusions.
Ciao!

Posted by RollergirlOrc
Well, if we have kids, he can have joint custody. It's what marriage was originally made for in case the man passes away, his wife gets the goats and his kids. Or maybe both since baby goats are kids.

Posted by Undine
For men, marriage has clear HEALTH BENEFITS, since married men live in average LONGER than unmarried ones! This is not the case for women.
For women, marriage may have financial benefits when there are children to raise, but only with men that are stable and responsible (aka have skills that guarantee a good income and future promotions, save money without being stingy, spend little on clothes and gadgets for themself, and have no costly hobbies or addictions).
For both, living together saves costs (bills and possibly taxes). Like Saturn, marriage may bring stability to those with impulsive tendencies, keeping them in place when they would otherwise run for the hills at the first hurdle.

Posted by nanochipPosted by FUCKTHISLIFE
yo nano, i be honest u need to change location and get back to the city or near nature, money doesnt make u happy plus as a dev myself, i think coding is garbage because u becoming an angry femcell who hates man for wtv reason,
Speak for yourself. Money does buy happiness to a certain extent. Personally I am a lot happier with money than I am without money. Buying things make me happy. Travel makes me happy. Not having to check my bank account to make sure there is enough money makes me happy. And I don’t even code 😟click to expand

Posted by nanochipPosted by Undine
For men, marriage has clear HEALTH BENEFITS, since married men live in average LONGER than unmarried ones! This is not the case for women.
For women, marriage may have financial benefits when there are children to raise, but only with men that are stable and responsible (aka have skills that guarantee a good income and future promotions, save money without being stingy, spend little on clothes and gadgets for themself, and have no costly hobbies or addictions).
For both, living together saves costs (bills and possibly taxes). Like Saturn, marriage may bring stability to those with impulsive tendencies, keeping them in place when they would otherwise run for the hills at the first hurdle.
Yea I didn’t even get into lifespan of married couples vs not, good point.
The financials of having a child(ren) makes total sense, and splitting cost within the marriage too. But what about when it ends? Marriage makes sense from a family perspective, but people desire children less now, and statistically it’s still going to likely end in divorce regardless.click to expand

Posted by UndinePosted by nanochipPosted by Undine
For men, marriage has clear HEALTH BENEFITS, since married men live in average LONGER than unmarried ones! This is not the case for women.
For women, marriage may have financial benefits when there are children to raise, but only with men that are stable and responsible (aka have skills that guarantee a good income and future promotions, save money without being stingy, spend little on clothes and gadgets for themself, and have no costly hobbies or addictions).
For both, living together saves costs (bills and possibly taxes). Like Saturn, marriage may bring stability to those with impulsive tendencies, keeping them in place when they would otherwise run for the hills at the first hurdle.
Yea I didn’t even get into lifespan of married couples vs not, good point.
The financials of having a child(ren) makes total sense, and splitting cost within the marriage too. But what about when it ends? Marriage makes sense from a family perspective, but people desire children less now, and statistically it’s still going to likely end in divorce regardless.
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I am a childless woman who is financially independent and doesn't care about traditions, religion, what other people think, etc. Yet I married twice (first time a few days after my college degree; second time, a few days ago).
Apart from finding love and a compatible man, I believe there has to be at least another good reason for a woman like me to get hitched!
First time, I wouldn't have gained permission to live and work in his country, if we just "lived together". When I eventually got a job, I earned more than him. Second time around, I married a man who earns more than me, has accumulated wealth and is now buying an expensive home (of my choice) mortgage-free. I couldn't have afforded such a home on my own, and being married makes gives me 50% ownership, without having spent a penny.click to expand

Posted by Walk_on_byPosted by UndinePosted by nanochipPosted by Undine
For men, marriage has clear HEALTH BENEFITS, since married men live in average LONGER than unmarried ones! This is not the case for women.
For women, marriage may have financial benefits when there are children to raise, but only with men that are stable and responsible (aka have skills that guarantee a good income and future promotions, save money without being stingy, spend little on clothes and gadgets for themself, and have no costly hobbies or addictions).
For both, living together saves costs (bills and possibly taxes). Like Saturn, marriage may bring stability to those with impulsive tendencies, keeping them in place when they would otherwise run for the hills at the first hurdle.
Yea I didn’t even get into lifespan of married couples vs not, good point.
The financials of having a child(ren) makes total sense, and splitting cost within the marriage too. But what about when it ends? Marriage makes sense from a family perspective, but people desire children less now, and statistically it’s still going to likely end in divorce regardless.
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I am a childless woman who is financially independent and doesn't care about traditions, religion, what other people think, etc. Yet I married twice (first time a few days after my college degree; second time, a few days ago).
Apart from finding love and a compatible man, I believe there has to be at least another good reason for a woman like me to get hitched!
First time, I wouldn't have gained permission to live and work in his country, if we just "lived together". When I eventually got a job, I earned more than him. Second time around, I married a man who earns more than me, has accumulated wealth and is now buying an expensive home (of my choice) mortgage-free. I couldn't have afforded such a home on my own, and being married makes gives me 50% ownership, without having spent a penny.
How are you financially independent if you couldn't have afforded such a home on your own?
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Posted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by Undine
For men, marriage has clear HEALTH BENEFITS, since married men live in average LONGER than unmarried ones! This is not the case for women.
For women, marriage may have financial benefits when there are children to raise, but only with men that are stable and responsible (aka have skills that guarantee a good income and future promotions, save money without being stingy, spend little on clothes and gadgets for themself, and have no costly hobbies or addictions).
For both, living together saves costs (bills and possibly taxes). Like Saturn, marriage may bring stability to those with impulsive tendencies, keeping them in place when they would otherwise run for the hills at the first hurdle.
What the point to marry if u don’t have child ?click to expand

Posted by UndinePosted by Walk_on_byPosted by UndinePosted by nanochipPosted by Undine
For men, marriage has clear HEALTH BENEFITS, since married men live in average LONGER than unmarried ones! This is not the case for women.
For women, marriage may have financial benefits when there are children to raise, but only with men that are stable and responsible (aka have skills that guarantee a good income and future promotions, save money without being stingy, spend little on clothes and gadgets for themself, and have no costly hobbies or addictions).
For both, living together saves costs (bills and possibly taxes). Like Saturn, marriage may bring stability to those with impulsive tendencies, keeping them in place when they would otherwise run for the hills at the first hurdle.
Yea I didn’t even get into lifespan of married couples vs not, good point.
The financials of having a child(ren) makes total sense, and splitting cost within the marriage too. But what about when it ends? Marriage makes sense from a family perspective, but people desire children less now, and statistically it’s still going to likely end in divorce regardless.
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I am a childless woman who is financially independent and doesn't care about traditions, religion, what other people think, etc. Yet I married twice (first time a few days after my college degree; second time, a few days ago).
Apart from finding love and a compatible man, I believe there has to be at least another good reason for a woman like me to get hitched!
First time, I wouldn't have gained permission to live and work in his country, if we just "lived together". When I eventually got a job, I earned more than him. Second time around, I married a man who earns more than me, has accumulated wealth and is now buying an expensive home (of my choice) mortgage-free. I couldn't have afforded such a home on my own, and being married makes gives me 50% ownership, without having spent a penny.
How are you financially independent if you couldn't have afforded such a home on your own?
I can afford a home, in fact I have been owning a lovely one for a decade. It's not a mansion, though!click to expand


Posted by Walk_on_byPosted by UndinePosted by Walk_on_byPosted by UndinePosted by nanochipPosted by Undine
For men, marriage has clear HEALTH BENEFITS, since married men live in average LONGER than unmarried ones! This is not the case for women.
For women, marriage may have financial benefits when there are children to raise, but only with men that are stable and responsible (aka have skills that guarantee a good income and future promotions, save money without being stingy, spend little on clothes and gadgets for themself, and have no costly hobbies or addictions).
For both, living together saves costs (bills and possibly taxes). Like Saturn, marriage may bring stability to those with impulsive tendencies, keeping them in place when they would otherwise run for the hills at the first hurdle.
Yea I didn’t even get into lifespan of married couples vs not, good point.
The financials of having a child(ren) makes total sense, and splitting cost within the marriage too. But what about when it ends? Marriage makes sense from a family perspective, but people desire children less now, and statistically it’s still going to likely end in divorce regardless.
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I am a childless woman who is financially independent and doesn't care about traditions, religion, what other people think, etc. Yet I married twice (first time a few days after my college degree; second time, a few days ago).
Apart from finding love and a compatible man, I believe there has to be at least another good reason for a woman like me to get hitched!
First time, I wouldn't have gained permission to live and work in his country, if we just "lived together". When I eventually got a job, I earned more than him. Second time around, I married a man who earns more than me, has accumulated wealth and is now buying an expensive home (of my choice) mortgage-free. I couldn't have afforded such a home on my own, and being married makes gives me 50% ownership, without having spent a penny.
How are you financially independent if you couldn't have afforded such a home on your own?
I can afford a home, in fact I have been owning a lovely one for a decade. It's not a mansion, though!
You just ruined Nanos thread lmao nice.click to expand

Posted by UndinePosted by Walk_on_byPosted by UndinePosted by Walk_on_byPosted by UndinePosted by nanochipPosted by Undine
For men, marriage has clear HEALTH BENEFITS, since married men live in average LONGER than unmarried ones! This is not the case for women.
For women, marriage may have financial benefits when there are children to raise, but only with men that are stable and responsible (aka have skills that guarantee a good income and future promotions, save money without being stingy, spend little on clothes and gadgets for themself, and have no costly hobbies or addictions).
For both, living together saves costs (bills and possibly taxes). Like Saturn, marriage may bring stability to those with impulsive tendencies, keeping them in place when they would otherwise run for the hills at the first hurdle.
Yea I didn’t even get into lifespan of married couples vs not, good point.
The financials of having a child(ren) makes total sense, and splitting cost within the marriage too. But what about when it ends? Marriage makes sense from a family perspective, but people desire children less now, and statistically it’s still going to likely end in divorce regardless.
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I am a childless woman who is financially independent and doesn't care about traditions, religion, what other people think, etc. Yet I married twice (first time a few days after my college degree; second time, a few days ago).
Apart from finding love and a compatible man, I believe there has to be at least another good reason for a woman like me to get hitched!
First time, I wouldn't have gained permission to live and work in his country, if we just "lived together". When I eventually got a job, I earned more than him. Second time around, I married a man who earns more than me, has accumulated wealth and is now buying an expensive home (of my choice) mortgage-free. I couldn't have afforded such a home on my own, and being married makes gives me 50% ownership, without having spent a penny.
How are you financially independent if you couldn't have afforded such a home on your own?
I can afford a home, in fact I have been owning a lovely one for a decade. It's not a mansion, though!
You just ruined Nanos thread lmao nice.
Can YOU afford a mansion?
Nano is dating a double Pisces like myself. Maybe she needs this info 😉click to expand

Posted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-II
Lol wtf are you talking about, women these days can't take care of a home for shit.
I've seen more single men have tidier homes than single women.
Men cook elaborate meals, women can barely boil an egg or simply have "no interest in cooking".
Men take care of themselves physically even after entering a relationship, women fall apart on an average within 8 months.
Lol @ "emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere" . You are delusional. All men really need these days are their bros and a Saturday night hookup.
Yes, generalizations, but this has been my experience as a 21th century male with friends of both sexes. Maybe says more about my social circle than men/women, I dunno.
I don’t think men get emotional fulfillment from their bros or Saturday night hookups. Social and sexual fulfillment yes, they are not the same. Men get lonely just as much or more than women do. In society where men are expected to not talk much about their feelings, they often times only do that with a S.O, or a female platonic friend. The latter I think I’ve seen you say in the past was not possible? You got all over me for saying I had a platonic male friend once.click to expand

Posted by UndinePosted by nanochipPosted by Undine
For men, marriage has clear HEALTH BENEFITS, since married men live in average LONGER than unmarried ones! This is not the case for women.
For women, marriage may have financial benefits when there are children to raise, but only with men that are stable and responsible (aka have skills that guarantee a good income and future promotions, save money without being stingy, spend little on clothes and gadgets for themself, and have no costly hobbies or addictions).
For both, living together saves costs (bills and possibly taxes). Like Saturn, marriage may bring stability to those with impulsive tendencies, keeping them in place when they would otherwise run for the hills at the first hurdle.
Yea I didn’t even get into lifespan of married couples vs not, good point.
The financials of having a child(ren) makes total sense, and splitting cost within the marriage too. But what about when it ends? Marriage makes sense from a family perspective, but people desire children less now, and statistically it’s still going to likely end in divorce regardless.
click to expand
I am a childless woman who is financially independent and doesn't care about traditions, religion, what other people think, etc. Yet I married twice (first time a few days after my college degree; second time, a few days ago).
Apart from finding love and a compatible man, I believe there has to be at least another good reason for a woman like me to get hitched!
First time, I wouldn't have gained permission to live and work in his country, if we just "lived together". When I eventually got a job, I earned more than him. Second time around, I married a man who earns more than me, has accumulated wealth and is now buying an expensive home (of my choice) mortgage-free. I couldn't have afforded such a home on my own, and being married makes gives me 50% ownership, without having spent a penny.click to expand

Posted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by nanochipPosted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by nanochipwhat I see happening among local young moms (usually unmarried to the dad) is that they'd rather beg on GoFundMe than dare inconvenience the dad with a child support summons. that's why I'm glad to see anytime women take that risk of displeasing him and take him to court- I don't wanna pay for that kid, I have no sperm. my Pisces ex was never taken to court by his Taurus bm but he willingly gave her a $ 2.5k/month allowance in efforts to buy her love (not that much all the time, but a lot). then he'd complain to me about it and I figured he should just go through the court because they'd ask for less of him, but he likes being a martyr so win-win. their son is 20 now but she still gets that allowance. she's also 2 years older than him, unfaithful, a 6 and has Leo moon. I mean its maddening but slay
If the system does ever work out in the women's favor (very rare), who is to stop men from threatening and bullying behind the scenes to get their way?
I think the Pisces ex was wildly generous. It’s basically unheard of that a man would support a woman this way consistently of his own volition outside of a legal system, even if she had his kids. How was he otherwise?
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Sexy, extreme conspiracy theorist, flat earther, anti-vaxxer, emotionally/sexually abusive tendencies (fairly mild on the physical end). He forced that Taurus to have 2 abortions when they were in their teens causing serious reproductive issues for her. Great worker and friend, but im sure many would call him a “bad guy”. Horrible temper but mines similar. Functioning substance abuser except his livers shot, along with his kidneys and prostate lol. I love his ass. But to further illustrate his abusive tendencies— his son won’t talk to him and hasn’t for 2+ years. He admitted to using physical force on his son as punishment. This Pisces has Pisces Mercury, Aqua Venus and Scorpio Mars. He hooks up with barely legals and besides me, the only other girl besides his bm who he was exclusive with was a disadvantaged Gemini 14 years younger than him
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Posted by EggrollPosted by UndinePosted by Walk_on_byPosted by UndinePosted by nanochipI am a childless woman who is financially independent and doesn't care about traditions, religion, what other people think, etc. Yet I married twice (first time a few days after my college degree; second time, a few days ago).Posted by UndineYea I didn’t even get into lifespan of married couples vs not, good point.
For men, marriage has clear HEALTH BENEFITS, since married men live in average LONGER than unmarried ones! This is not the case for women.
For women, marriage may have financial benefits when there are children to raise, but only with men that are stable and responsible (aka have skills that guarantee a good income and future promotions, save money without being stingy, spend little on clothes and gadgets for themself, and have no costly hobbies or addictions).
For both, living together saves costs (bills and possibly taxes). Like Saturn, marriage may bring stability to those with impulsive tendencies, keeping them in place when they would otherwise run for the hills at the first hurdle.
The financials of having a child(ren) makes total sense, and splitting cost within the marriage too. But what about when it ends? Marriage makes sense from a family perspective, but people desire children less now, and statistically it’s still going to likely end in divorce regardless.
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Apart from finding love and a compatible man, I believe there has to be at least another good reason for a woman like me to get hitched!
First time, I wouldn't have gained permission to live and work in his country, if we just "lived together". When I eventually got a job, I earned more than him. Second time around, I married a man who earns more than me, has accumulated wealth and is now buying an expensive home (of my choice) mortgage-free. I couldn't have afforded such a home on my own, and being married makes gives me 50% ownership, without having spent a penny.
How are you financially independent if you couldn't have afforded such a home on your own?
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I can afford a home, in fact I have been owning a lovely one for a decade. It's not a mansion, though!
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Posted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by nanochipMoney makes me happy too. I think I'll take money over women anyday to be honest with you. Not that I'm a woman hater I just love my money more. Money and women come hand in hand. Women don't want no broke man. Dude must be don't like money or something. A username with a catchphrase like "FUCKTHISLIFE" might be pretty obvious he feel that way about money too..."FUCKTHISMONEY".Posted by FUCKTHISLIFE
yo nano, i be honest u need to change location and get back to the city or near nature, money doesnt make u happy plus as a dev myself, i think coding is garbage because u becoming an angry femcell who hates man for wtv reason,
Speak for yourself. Money does buy happiness to a certain extent. Personally I am a lot happier with money than I am without money. Buying things make me happy. Travel makes me happy. Not having to check my bank account to make sure there is enough money makes me happy. And I don’t even code 😟
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Of course I'm just saying. I'm not trying to instigate anything.
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I'm a middle class and i earn good money, but peace of mind is real happiness. doing a thread antimale while u earn good money, it's just pretty cringe and a cry for help, but its just my opinion. like u said i shouldnt instigate anything
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Posted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by nanochipPosted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by nanochipwhat I see happening among local young moms (usually unmarried to the dad) is that they'd rather beg on GoFundMe than dare inconvenience the dad with a child support summons. that's why I'm glad to see anytime women take that risk of displeasing him and take him to court- I don't wanna pay for that kid, I have no sperm. my Pisces ex was never taken to court by his Taurus bm but he willingly gave her a $ 2.5k/month allowance in efforts to buy her love (not that much all the time, but a lot). then he'd complain to me about it and I figured he should just go through the court because they'd ask for less of him, but he likes being a martyr so win-win. their son is 20 now but she still gets that allowance. she's also 2 years older than him, unfaithful, a 6 and has Leo moon. I mean its maddening but slay
If the system does ever work out in the women's favor (very rare), who is to stop men from threatening and bullying behind the scenes to get their way?
I think the Pisces ex was wildly generous. It’s basically unheard of that a man would support a woman this way consistently of his own volition outside of a legal system, even if she had his kids. How was he otherwise?
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Sexy, extreme conspiracy theorist, flat earther, anti-vaxxer, emotionally/sexually abusive tendencies (fairly mild on the physical end). He forced that Taurus to have 2 abortions when they were in their teens causing serious reproductive issues for her. Great worker and friend, but im sure many would call him a “bad guy”. Horrible temper but mines similar. Functioning substance abuser except his livers shot, along with his kidneys and prostate lol. I love his ass. But to further illustrate his abusive tendencies— his son won’t talk to him and hasn’t for 2+ years. He admitted to using physical force on his son as punishment. This Pisces has Pisces Mercury, Aqua Venus and Scorpio Mars. He hooks up with barely legals and besides me, the only other girl besides his bm who he was exclusive with was a disadvantaged Gemini 14 years younger than him
I really do love his ass but he’s a complex person
Wow
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Where’s his moon?
Either Aries or Pisces. I lean toward Aries. He doesn’t have his birth time nor would he tell me a general idea lolclick to expand

Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-II
Lol wtf are you talking about, women these days can't take care of a home for shit.
I've seen more single men have tidier homes than single women.
Men cook elaborate meals, women can barely boil an egg or simply have "no interest in cooking".
Men take care of themselves physically even after entering a relationship, women fall apart on an average within 8 months.
Lol @ "emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere" . You are delusional. All men really need these days are their bros and a Saturday night hookup.
Yes, generalizations, but this has been my experience as a 21th century male with friends of both sexes. Maybe says more about my social circle than men/women, I dunno.
I don’t think men get emotional fulfillment from their bros or Saturday night hookups. Social and sexual fulfillment yes, they are not the same. Men get lonely just as much or more than women do. In society where men are expected to not talk much about their feelings, they often times only do that with a S.O, or a female platonic friend. The latter I think I’ve seen you say in the past was not possible? You got all over me for saying I had a platonic male friend once.
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You are projecting a woman's definition of "emotional fullfilment". Men are told they ultimately need a woman but aside from babymaking, all the single & mingle guys I know are perfectly happy with the emotional fullfilment from their male friends and sexually hooking up with women. Usually leaving your emotional fullfilment to women is a headache in itself.
Also married life does not guarantee a healthy sex life. Another point to strike off your list.click to expand

Posted by UndinePosted by nanochipPosted by Undine
For men, marriage has clear HEALTH BENEFITS, since married men live in average LONGER than unmarried ones! This is not the case for women.
For women, marriage may have financial benefits when there are children to raise, but only with men that are stable and responsible (aka have skills that guarantee a good income and future promotions, save money without being stingy, spend little on clothes and gadgets for themself, and have no costly hobbies or addictions).
For both, living together saves costs (bills and possibly taxes). Like Saturn, marriage may bring stability to those with impulsive tendencies, keeping them in place when they would otherwise run for the hills at the first hurdle.
Yea I didn’t even get into lifespan of married couples vs not, good point.
The financials of having a child(ren) makes total sense, and splitting cost within the marriage too. But what about when it ends? Marriage makes sense from a family perspective, but people desire children less now, and statistically it’s still going to likely end in divorce regardless.
I am a childless woman who is financially independent and doesn't care about traditions, religion, what other people think, etc. Yet I married twice (first time a few days after my college degree; second time, a few days ago).
Apart from finding love and a compatible man, I believe there has to be at least another good reason for a woman like me to get hitched!
First time, I wouldn't have gained permission to live and work in his country, if we just "lived together". When I eventually got a job, I earned more than him. Second time around, I married a man who earns more than me, has accumulated wealth and is now buying an expensive home (of my choice) mortgage-free. I couldn't have afforded such a home on my own, and being married makes gives me 50% ownership, without having spent a penny.click to expand

Posted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by nanochipPosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by Jumpin_JupiterI'm a middle class and i earn good money, but peace of mind is real happiness. doing a thread antimale while u earn good money, it's just pretty cringe and a cry for help, but its just my opinion. like u said i shouldnt instigate anythingPosted by nanochipPosted by FUCKTHISLIFE
yo nano, i be honest u need to change location and get back to the city or near nature, money doesnt make u happy plus as a dev myself, i think coding is garbage because u becoming an angry femcell who hates man for wtv reason,
Speak for yourself. Money does buy happiness to a certain extent. Personally I am a lot happier with money than I am without money. Buying things make me happy. Travel makes me happy. Not having to check my bank account to make sure there is enough money makes me happy. And I don’t even code 😟
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Money makes me happy too. I think I'll take money over women anyday to be honest with you. Not that I'm a woman hater I just love my money more. Money and women come hand in hand. Women don't want no broke man. Dude must be don't like money or something. A username with a catchphrase like "FUCKTHISLIFE" might be pretty obvious he feel that way about money too..."FUCKTHISMONEY".
Of course I'm just saying. I'm not trying to instigate anything.
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“doing a thread antimale while u earn good money..”
What do those two things have to do with each other exactly?
You’re defaulting to the predicable “femcel” argument and saying I need dating coaching and calling me empty and this and that. But. You are wrong. You are way off with your assumptions. I’m quite literally in the best relationship I’ve been in for a long time so all of these things you are saying about me is not my reality
Read the post and read the thread. You said you didn’t read the thread, it was too long. Maybe do take the time to read it so you can know what you’re talking about.
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u def empty and im not interessed fr, but it's ok tho lolclick to expand

Posted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by nanochipYou are projecting a woman's definition of "emotional fullfilment". Men are told they ultimately need a woman but aside from babymaking, all the single & mingle guys I know are perfectly happy with the emotional fullfilment from their male friends and sexually hooking up with women. Usually leaving your emotional fullfilment to women is a headache in itself.Posted by Enfant-Terrible-III don’t think men get emotional fulfillment from their bros or Saturday night hookups. Social and sexual fulfillment yes, they are not the same. Men get lonely just as much or more than women do. In society where men are expected to not talk much about their feelings, they often times only do that with a S.O, or a female platonic friend. The latter I think I’ve seen you say in the past was not possible? You got all over me for saying I had a platonic male friend once.
Lol wtf are you talking about, women these days can't take care of a home for shit.
I've seen more single men have tidier homes than single women.
Men cook elaborate meals, women can barely boil an egg or simply have "no interest in cooking".
Men take care of themselves physically even after entering a relationship, women fall apart on an average within 8 months.
Lol @ "emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere" . You are delusional. All men really need these days are their bros and a Saturday night hookup.
Yes, generalizations, but this has been my experience as a 21th century male with friends of both sexes. Maybe says more about my social circle than men/women, I dunno.
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Also married life does not guarantee a healthy sex life. Another point to strike off your list.
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I don’t know, enfant. While I am sure some men are happy with the bachelor life style … these men eventually do settle down into marriage. I know so many lonely men who seem to think romantic companionship is the solution for themclick to expand


Posted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by Basic
So you guys are sure I will live longer if I get married? 🤔
yeah its magic, but is that worth it tho ? to live longer ?click to expand
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Benefits for men:
Companionship
Family
Financial gains
Career focus
Healthier life style
Domestic labor taken care of
Regular sex
Less risk taking
Emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere
Benefits for women:
Companionship
Family
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The benefits for men quickly become the cons for women.
Then there is the inevitable divorce settlement.
I never met a man who actually had to pay alimony. My dad's been married 7 times across several states and never had to pay it, not even was it ever discussed. I grew up in the south where people get married like 5 times throughout their life and never saw it. I don't think this is very common. I could be wrong, but I think maybe this is mostly a risk for extremely wealthy men. Most men do not make that much money these days, they need their S.O to work out of economic necessity.
Many men want homemakers. Okay fine, I get it. Its nice to have someone doing all the boring tasks at home for you.... but homemakers are not independent by definition, and will most often require SPOUSAL support after divorce (we are still looking at an overwhelming 40-50% chance). That dependence and those domestic skills that were so appealing to men at first? Well, now they realize that it was all they had to offer. They become that object of resentment for men that we so often hear about. The vilified, evil hag of the ex wife who dedicated her life to serving up hamburger helper at 7pm every night, and took the children to soccer practices every Wednesday. Women will often be stay at home moms for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, sacrificing their independence and often their identity, and for what? To be tossed out after a divorce. No experience. No skills. No money. Nothing. And yet, somehow they have to figure out how to support their children in a safe and healthy environment, while returning to the work force for the first time in a decade or first time ever, making next to no money. It is an impossible task that they make happen somehow, despite all of the cards stacked against them. You may be thinking "Oh no there's child support for that!" Not always. There are many loopholes that allow men to avoid paying it and best believe they utilize them every way they can. One of my best friends chose to have 2 kids with a man who now evades child support with a series of under-the-table jobs spanning a decade at this point. This is not uncommon.
Men love to point out: "Women initiate 80-90% of divorce!" - Why do you think women are initiating it? I think its because we are at the height of mental and emotional health/awareness that there is just less tolerance for abuse/cheating/unhappiness in general. If that is not acceptable, then the list above would illustrate clearly that marriage benefits men far more than women. Even bad marriages.... So why would men want a divorce?!
I am laughing at the idea that marriage would have any kind of financial benefit to me and so many other women. A lot of women these days are working high paid jobs and it is unlikely their partner will make more money than them. So I am curious, what exactly is the benefit of marriage, to a woman? What am I missing here? Is it just a human experience we want to have, which is fleeting? Is it the ideation of a family, the promise of "forever", which doesn't particularly appeal to me given the current state of the world?
Looking at the list above, it looks so obvious, doesn't it? It even seems ironic that men would throw around the "unmarried cat-hoarding spinster" barbs. Marriage in 2023 is for you, men. Its yours. Embrace your inner golem and get ready to be chasing that ring down. Find a wife and treat her well. You have so much to gain from it.