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Marriage is for men in 2023 (not women) (Page 3)
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Posted by BasicPosted by nanochipPosted by BasicPosted by MyStarsShineAqua but idk the rest of her placements 🤣Posted by BasicI do! 😂Posted by poppyflowerPosted by BasicPosted by poppyflowerPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by DonnaLibra
Marriage is a much better deal for men than women. Married men live longer than single men but single women live longer than married women. Marriage and children literally kill women earlier in life.
There's plenty of studies that say married women live longer. There's articles that say single women live longer...
its make no fuckin sense since most of the time guys date younger.
so the argument is ? i want to whole life solo because there is a ramndom stat from a random website say my husband might die 5 years before i die.
ok then die alone
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I found a study done in Japan that single women in Asia live longer. And the rest in the West say married women live longer.
Who is even married that long though. Most people aren't, so how do you get the stats.
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Celebrity Couples Who Have Been Together For 20+ Years:
Tom Selleck and Jillie Mack: 33 Years ...
Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin: 23 Years ...
Oprah Winfrey and Stedman Graham: 34 Years ...
Jerry Stiller and Anne Meara: 61 Years ...
Sting and Trudie style r: 28 Years ...
Sidney Poitier and Joanna Shimkus: 44 Years
https://www.womenshealthmag.com/relationships/g33926157/longterm-celebrity-couples/
Probably still not common though...
Whoa there lisabethur8 2.0 🤣
??
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No one remembers her? 🤣 dammit my references are getting old!
She’d a Scorpio/Leo moon *my husband* lol
Was she a Libra?
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Is “my husband….” good enough reason to get married—
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Ok so when an Astro cat lady gets married…
They have to leave DXP and post on Lindalinda or something no wait it’s Elsa Elsa
Then start every sentence with my husband
Seriously everyone there was married and did that when I posted there during one of my extended band from DXP 🤣click to expand
It’s the next evolution of astrology. They leveled up past this god forsaken place
Posted by nanochipPosted by BasicPosted by nanochipPosted by BasicPosted by MyStarsShineAqua but idk the rest of her placements 🤣Posted by BasicI do! 😂Posted by poppyflowerPosted by BasicPosted by poppyflowerPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by DonnaLibra
Marriage is a much better deal for men than women. Married men live longer than single men but single women live longer than married women. Marriage and children literally kill women earlier in life.
There's plenty of studies that say married women live longer. There's articles that say single women live longer...
its make no fuckin sense since most of the time guys date younger.
so the argument is ? i want to whole life solo because there is a ramndom stat from a random website say my husband might die 5 years before i die.
ok then die alone
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I found a study done in Japan that single women in Asia live longer. And the rest in the West say married women live longer.
Who is even married that long though. Most people aren't, so how do you get the stats.
click to expand
Celebrity Couples Who Have Been Together For 20+ Years:
Tom Selleck and Jillie Mack: 33 Years ...
Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin: 23 Years ...
Oprah Winfrey and Stedman Graham: 34 Years ...
Jerry Stiller and Anne Meara: 61 Years ...
Sting and Trudie style r: 28 Years ...
Sidney Poitier and Joanna Shimkus: 44 Years
https://www.womenshealthmag.com/relationships/g33926157/longterm-celebrity-couples/
Probably still not common though...
Whoa there lisabethur8 2.0 🤣
??
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No one remembers her? 🤣 dammit my references are getting old!
She’d a Scorpio/Leo moon *my husband* lol
Was she a Libra?
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Is “my husband….” good enough reason to get married—
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Ok so when an Astro cat lady gets married…
They have to leave DXP and post on Lindalinda or something no wait it’s Elsa Elsa
Then start every sentence with my husband
Seriously everyone there was married and did that when I posted there during one of my extended band from DXP 🤣
It’s the next evolution of astrology. They leveled up past this god forsaken placeclick to expand
Then post divorce they post on Reddit acting brand new never mentioning any dating or browser history 🤣
Posted by GC69_
Incase Ands hasn’t already said it….
“Look at all these DXPers pretending to have options.”
What would need to happen for a woman to not have options? A severe physical deformity? She lacks a pulse?
Posted by BasicPosted by nanochipPosted by BasicPosted by nanochipOk so when an Astro cat lady gets married…Posted by BasicIs “my husband….” good enough reason to get married—Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by BasicPosted by poppyflowerPosted by BasicPosted by poppyflowerPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by DonnaLibra
Marriage is a much better deal for men than women. Married men live longer than single men but single women live longer than married women. Marriage and children literally kill women earlier in life.
There's plenty of studies that say married women live longer. There's articles that say single women live longer...
its make no fuckin sense since most of the time guys date younger.
so the argument is ? i want to whole life solo because there is a ramndom stat from a random website say my husband might die 5 years before i die.
ok then die alone
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I found a study done in Japan that single women in Asia live longer. And the rest in the West say married women live longer.
Who is even married that long though. Most people aren't, so how do you get the stats.
click to expand
Celebrity Couples Who Have Been Together For 20+ Years:
Tom Selleck and Jillie Mack: 33 Years ...
Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin: 23 Years ...
Oprah Winfrey and Stedman Graham: 34 Years ...
Jerry Stiller and Anne Meara: 61 Years ...
Sting and Trudie style r: 28 Years ...
Sidney Poitier and Joanna Shimkus: 44 Years
https://www.womenshealthmag.com/relationships/g33926157/longterm-celebrity-couples/
Probably still not common though...
Whoa there lisabethur8 2.0 🤣
??
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No one remembers her? 🤣 dammit my references are getting old!
I do! 😂
She’d a Scorpio/Leo moon *my husband* lol
Was she a Libra?
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Aqua but idk the rest of her placements 🤣
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They have to leave DXP and post on Lindalinda or something no wait it’s Elsa Elsa
Then start every sentence with my husband
Seriously everyone there was married and did that when I posted there during one of my extended band from DXP 🤣
It’s the next evolution of astrology. They leveled up past this god forsaken place
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Then post divorce they post on Reddit acting brand new never mentioning any dating or browser history 🤣click to expand
It’s the post divorce reinvention. I feel like we’ve witnessed a few of those here
Posted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by Walk_on_by
It's over for men now that women can just buy a giant squid sex robot
the movie Possession had a monster like that
https://i.postimg.cc/DZfhQZWS/possession-d-jpg.webp
I can't imagine the market for male sex dolls is very thriving. but I kind of want this Angelina Jolie lookalike
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Wasn’t the whole MGTOW gonna blow up the sex doll industry? Why are they still crying about women then? Just saw a new MGTOW thread pop up. When will they understand that we simply don’t care.
Posted by nanochipPosted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by Walk_on_bythe movie Possession had a monster like that
It's over for men now that women can just buy a giant squid sex robot
https://i.postimg.cc/DZfhQZWS/possession-d-jpg.webp
I can't imagine the market for male sex dolls is very thriving. but I kind of want this Angelina Jolie lookalike
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Wasn’t the whole MGTOW gonna blow up the sex doll industry? Why are they still crying about women then? Just saw a new MGTOW thread pop up. When will they understand that we simply don’t care.click to expand
Someone needs to fuck a sex doll on camera not in a porno scene but a real movie directed by Christopher Nolan not in chronological order
Then sex dolls will blow up
*chuckle
Posted by BasicPosted by nanochipPosted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by Walk_on_bythe movie Possession had a monster like that
It's over for men now that women can just buy a giant squid sex robot
https://i.postimg.cc/DZfhQZWS/possession-d-jpg.webp
I can't imagine the market for male sex dolls is very thriving. but I kind of want this Angelina Jolie lookalike
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Wasn’t the whole MGTOW gonna blow up the sex doll industry? Why are they still crying about women then? Just saw a new MGTOW thread pop up. When will they understand that we simply don’t care.
Someone needs to fuck a sex doll on camera not in a porno scene but a real movie directed by Christopher Nolan not in chronological order
Then sex dolls will blow upclick to expand
They were already halfway there with movies Her and Ex Machina
Posted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by nanochipPosted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by Walk_on_bythe movie Possession had a monster like that
It's over for men now that women can just buy a giant squid sex robot
https://i.postimg.cc/DZfhQZWS/possession-d-jpg.webp
I can't imagine the market for male sex dolls is very thriving. but I kind of want this Angelina Jolie lookalike
Wasn’t the whole MGTOW gonna blow up the sex doll industry? Why are they still crying about women then? Just saw a new MGTOW thread pop up. When will they understand that we simply don’t care.
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In all reality it would be a specific minority of men who purely want to keep women around for our hole and thus would be content with a sex doll. most normal people like dating and socializing with the opposite sex (or their preferred gender) for other reasons. I don't believe men are as sexually driven as they claim. maybe power driven, status driven...click to expand
What other reasons do you think? I haven’t encountered many men who genuinely enjoy platonic conversation. Maybe gems or aquas. As for being sexually driven, I have noticed a clear drop off in mid thirties (as opposed to 20s), but definitely still behaving like cavemen.
Posted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by Walk_on_bythe movie Possession had a monster like that
It's over for men now that women can just buy a giant squid sex robot
https://i.postimg.cc/DZfhQZWS/possession-d-jpg.webp
I can't imagine the market for male sex dolls is very thriving. but I kind of want this Angelina Jolie lookalike
when i saw smth like this i feel like lucifer has won lol' fr having sex with that thing imply that u have to transpire put lube wtv cum inside that stuff, and after that clean it and put it in room, all those efforts to feel not alone ? plus that thing has no interaction. the guy buying that must be in some hell
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I just think these starpery dolls are super artistic and maybe I could let my bfs fuck em lol but mainly id plan to use em as props in twitch streams or at weird ass parties just to be different. if I didn't have a use for em I'd have em stuffed on a closet shelf out of sight bc they're scary. but I just read an article where some men are finding therapeutic uses for them (like punching bags?? 😂) and connecting with them emotionally-- the ones talking to them like a child's teddy bear are a special case...click to expand
I’d be interested to read more about the men who are emotionally connecting with the dolls, and also using them as punching bags. Big serial killer vibes on both fronts, and I love true crime. Can you link the article?
Posted by BasicPosted by saggurl88
He’s husband material for another man 😅click to expand
Men dress better when they are with other men. They stay in shape AND dress nice, what do women get?
Posted by saggurl88Posted by BasicPosted by saggurl88
He’s husband material for another man 😅
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Men dress better when they are with other men. They stay in shape AND dress nice, what do women get?
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European men dress nice. American men start transforming into that photo in their mid/late 30s it seems.
Posted by nanochipPosted by saggurl88Posted by BasicPosted by saggurl88
He’s husband material for another man 😅
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Men dress better when they are with other men. They stay in shape AND dress nice, what do women get?
European men dress nice. American men start transforming into that photo in their mid/late 30s it seems.click to expand
I agree! lol Only people that don't morph into this is people who have been gym rats their whole lives, men and women included.
Posted by saggurl88Posted by BasicPosted by saggurl88
He’s husband material for another man 😅
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Men dress better when they are with other men. They stay in shape AND dress nice, what do women get?
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Sexy passport bro ready to steal fire-bunny’s gf
Posted by saggurl88Posted by nanochipPosted by saggurl88Posted by BasicMen dress better when they are with other men. They stay in shape AND dress nice, what do women get?Posted by saggurl88He’s husband material for another man 😅
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European men dress nice. American men start transforming into that photo in their mid/late 30s it seems.
I agree! lol Only people that don't morph into this is people who have been gym rats their whole lives, men and women included.click to expand
I don't know if I agree to that. Had I stayed in the gym from the time I started which was way back in the early 90s when I was skinny as a toothpick up to now, I would've been blown up big as a balloon. That's why I stop. Not only for that reason I also stopped because I've already reach my potential. So I feel why keep at it if I'm gone keep getting bigger and bigger.
Posted by BasicPosted by saggurl88Posted by BasicPosted by saggurl88
He’s husband material for another man 😅
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Men dress better when they are with other men. They stay in shape AND dress nice, what do women get?
Sexy passport bro ready to steal fire-bunny’s gfclick to expand
Passport bro and sis
Posted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by saggurl88Posted by nanochipI agree! lol Only people that don't morph into this is people who have been gym rats their whole lives, men and women included.Posted by saggurl88European men dress nice. American men start transforming into that photo in their mid/late 30s it seems.Posted by BasicPosted by saggurl88
He’s husband material for another man 😅
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Men dress better when they are with other men. They stay in shape AND dress nice, what do women get?
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I don't know if I agree to that. Had I stayed in the gym from the time I started which was way back in the early 90s when I was skinny as a toothpick up to now, I would've been blown up big as a balloon. That's why I stop. Not only for that reason I also stopped because I've already reach my potential. So I feel why keep at it if I'm gone keep getting bigger and bigger.click to expand
Weren't you just complaining that you were losing muscle mass as you're getting older? You wouldn't of gotten bigger, people take supplements to reach that type of size, you just maintain and don't look sloppy. And you don't get man tits.
Posted by saggurl88Posted by BasicPosted by saggurl88Posted by BasicMen dress better when they are with other men. They stay in shape AND dress nice, what do women get?Posted by saggurl88He’s husband material for another man 😅
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Sexy passport bro ready to steal fire-bunny’s gf
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Passport bro and sis
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All Neck Ed 🤣
Posted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by saggurl88Posted by BasicPassport bro and sisPosted by saggurl88Sexy passport bro ready to steal fire-bunny’s gfPosted by BasicPosted by saggurl88
He’s husband material for another man 😅
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Men dress better when they are with other men. They stay in shape AND dress nice, what do women get?
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yep money doesnt work
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I might have to take some pics for DXP research purposes 🤔
Posted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by BasicPosted by saggurl88Posted by BasicMen dress better when they are with other men. They stay in shape AND dress nice, what do women get?Posted by saggurl88He’s husband material for another man 😅
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Sexy passport bro ready to steal fire-bunny’s gf
he does have one?click to expand
He had one for awhile the one that looked like our former president with black smoker guns even though she most likely didn’t smoke but I have no update
Posted by Undine
For men, marriage has clear HEALTH BENEFITS, since married men live in average LONGER than unmarried ones! This is not the case for women.
For women, marriage may have financial benefits when there are children to raise, but only with men that are stable and responsible (aka have skills that guarantee a good income and future promotions, save money without being stingy, spend little on clothes and gadgets for themself, and have no costly hobbies or addictions).
For both, living together saves costs (bills and possibly taxes). Like Saturn, marriage may bring stability to those with impulsive tendencies, keeping them in place when they would otherwise run for the hills at the first hurdle.
I call bullshit on that.
Somewhere someone conducted a (deeply flawed) study and just like the food pyramid it has been recycled again and again as facts.
How exactly does one go about conducting such a study in a reliable way? Do you even know yourself or you just like the way it sounds?
Say a woman lives single for 45 years, then marries in her later years and dies after 5 years of marriage? Which group does she belong to?
Posted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by BasicPosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by BasicPosted by saggurl88Posted by BasicMen dress better when they are with other men. They stay in shape AND dress nice, what do women get?Posted by saggurl88He’s husband material for another man 😅
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Sexy passport bro ready to steal fire-bunny’s gf
he does have one?
He had one for awhile the one that looked like our former president with black smoker guns even though she most likely didn’t smoke but I have no update
honor to firebunny, he left dxpclick to expand
He didn’t leave. He’s not allowed to return. He has tried. Ask texttosmoon the blonde Irish woman
Posted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by BasicPosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by saggurl88Posted by BasicPassport bro and sisPosted by saggurl88Sexy passport bro ready to steal fire-bunny’s gfPosted by BasicPosted by saggurl88
He’s husband material for another man 😅
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Men dress better when they are with other men. They stay in shape AND dress nice, what do women get?
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yep money doesnt work
I might have to take some pics for DXP research purposes 🤔
have u ever seen like a real true Babe attached so a real some fugly ass overwheighted monster dude?
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Once but they were coming out of a hotel so she could have been a hooker 😅
Posted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by BasicPosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by BasicPosted by FUCKTHISLIFEHe had one for awhile the one that looked like our former president with black smoker guns even though she most likely didn’t smoke but I have no updatePosted by BasicPosted by saggurl88Sexy passport bro ready to steal fire-bunny’s gfPosted by BasicPosted by saggurl88
He’s husband material for another man 😅
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Men dress better when they are with other men. They stay in shape AND dress nice, what do women get?
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he does have one?
honor to firebunny, he left dxp
He didn’t leave. He’s not allowed to return. He has tried. Ask texttosmoon the blonde Irish woman
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hes permabanned lol ?click to expand
I think so. Gemitati too. I think they should let them back in. I have no one to make fun of. 🤣
Posted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by BasicPosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by BasicPosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by BasicPosted by FUCKTHISLIFEHe had one for awhile the one that looked like our former president with black smoker guns even though she most likely didn’t smoke but I have no updatePosted by BasicPosted by saggurl88Sexy passport bro ready to steal fire-bunny’s gfPosted by BasicPosted by saggurl88
He’s husband material for another man 😅
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Men dress better when they are with other men. They stay in shape AND dress nice, what do women get?
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he does have one?
honor to firebunny, he left dxp
He didn’t leave. He’s not allowed to return. He has tried. Ask texttosmoon the blonde Irish woman
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hes permabanned lol ?
I think so. Gemitati too. I think they should let them back in. I have no one to make fun of. 🤣
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I think tati got banned for posting pics of me which I said I allowed 🤷♂️ but maybe they aren’t good for foot traffic if this site even gets any.
Alimony is reserved for significant differences in pay or a housewife who takes care of the children. It is an absolutely ridiculous concept for a couple in the same tax bracket.
If a divorce is initiated, take what's yours and leave. In past cultures, the man would have to put up X amount of money in case of a divorce for the woman which is fair. But it's a set amount and not this continuous check that keeps coming to fulfill a failed obligation of marriage..
"Permanant" alimony is an even more ridiculous concept and you're crying that the system was created for men. Alimony was created to benefit women and unfortunately there will be outliers who escape paying.. sorry but they're not the majority.
If a divorce is initiated, take what's yours and leave. In past cultures, the man would have to put up X amount of money in case of a divorce for the woman which is fair. But it's a set amount and not this continuous check that keeps coming to fulfill a failed obligation of marriage..
"Permanant" alimony is an even more ridiculous concept and you're crying that the system was created for men. Alimony was created to benefit women and unfortunately there will be outliers who escape paying.. sorry but they're not the majority.
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I get 0 in alimony because he refused to stopped fighting unless I waived it.
He technically only pays for 3 out of the 5 cause once again, fought me. It's just a few hundred bucks and he hardly paid since our split and owes me a pretty penny. AND WANTS TO FIGHT AGAIN in court.
Divorce literally bankrupted me and left me in poverty vs him rebounding fine.
So what aren't you sharing?
How can he fight you out of something you are legally entitled to?
How does one go about not paying alimony and getting away with it? I'm sure a lot of dead-beat fathers would like to know.
How did you go bankrupt fighting for something you are entitled to? Is he a hobo with no place of residence, no job, no savings?
Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-II
Lol wtf are you talking about, women these days can't take care of a home for shit.
I've seen more single men have tidier homes than single women.
Men cook elaborate meals, women can barely boil an egg or simply have "no interest in cooking".
Men take care of themselves physically even after entering a relationship, women fall apart on an average within 8 months.
Lol @ "emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere" . You are delusional. All men really need these days are their bros and a Saturday night hookup.
Yes, generalizations, but this has been my experience as a 21th century male with friends of both sexes. Maybe says more about my social circle than men/women, I dunno.
I don’t think men get emotional fulfillment from their bros or Saturday night hookups. Social and sexual fulfillment yes, they are not the same. Men get lonely just as much or more than women do. In society where men are expected to not talk much about their feelings, they often times only do that with a S.O, or a female platonic friend. The latter I think I’ve seen you say in the past was not possible? You got all over me for saying I had a platonic male friend once.
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You are projecting a woman's definition of "emotional fullfilment". Men are told they ultimately need a woman but aside from babymaking, all the single & mingle guys I know are perfectly happy with the emotional fullfilment from their male friends and sexually hooking up with women. Usually leaving your emotional fullfilment to women is a headache in itself.
Also married life does not guarantee a healthy sex life. Another point to strike off your list.
I don’t know, enfant. While I am sure some men are happy with the bachelor life style … these men eventually do settle down into marriage. I know so many lonely men who seem to think romantic companionship is the solution for them
To incels it is the solution because they go half their lives unfucked and unwanted so it becomes like the holy grail. "If someone would only fuck me that would solve all my problems!"
I'm willing to bet if you give the same man a lucky streak of 2 years with unlimited supply of attention from women they'd come to the conclusion - if they have a personality - that it's overrated and there are more important and interesting things in life than just the attention of the opposite sex.
As for your 2nd point.. absolutely, men settle down too! Men settle down harder than women. Women will announce you're the love of their life, then change their mind after a few years bc suddenly they are "unhappy" or "unfulfilled". Change is generally a female trait. Or flaw.
Men don't really have those episodes, have you noticed? If men settle down we do it exactly as advertised. We don't change our minds or hearts. Usually the wife will try to change the man she married and when he stays the man he's always been, she will announce she's "unhappy" lol.
Men however don't look for you to make us happy, that's a typically female delusion: "If only I find the right one, I will find happiness!" Failing to realize you'd have to be happy with yourself to begin with.
Granted there are those men - like you said - whose only aspiration in life is having a family and that's his only source of happiness and without it he's no one. I find them weird tbh and don't understand how their wives work up enough vaginal secrete to fuck them.
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I don’t completely disagree with a lot of this btw. But it does make me feel like, by your definition, incels are very common.
I don’t agree with the part about women trying to change men. What you see is what you get for the most part. Maybe women are delusional to believe we can be happy forever with one person, I don’t know. The initial happiness and excitement wears off and maybe that feeling is what we want to chase.
But a large portion of divorces are happening due to lower tolerance for abuse and cheating 🤷🏼♀️ I’ll always believe that.
Posted by saggurl88Posted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by saggurl88I don't know if I agree to that. Had I stayed in the gym from the time I started which was way back in the early 90s when I was skinny as a toothpick up to now, I would've been blown up big as a balloon. That's why I stop. Not only for that reason I also stopped because I've already reach my potential. So I feel why keep at it if I'm gone keep getting bigger and bigger.Posted by nanochipPosted by saggurl88Posted by BasicPosted by saggurl88
He’s husband material for another man 😅
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Men dress better when they are with other men. They stay in shape AND dress nice, what do women get?
European men dress nice. American men start transforming into that photo in their mid/late 30s it seems.
I agree! lol Only people that don't morph into this is people who have been gym rats their whole lives, men and women included.
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Weren't you just complaining that you were losing muscle mass as you're getting older? You wouldn't of gotten bigger, people take supplements to reach that type of size, you just maintain and don't look sloppy. And you don't get man tits.click to expand
Oh nooooooo! I never lost any muscle mass. I love my muscles. I work hard to get where I am. Damn if I'm gone get rid of my muscles something I've always wanted since I was a kid. Now my complaint would be too big. And now it's time to drop some pounds. If it happen it happen and if it don't happen I guess it just don't. I've given up trying to lose weight.
Posted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by nanochipPosted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by nanochipPosted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by Walk_on_bythe movie Possession had a monster like that
It's over for men now that women can just buy a giant squid sex robot
https://i.postimg.cc/DZfhQZWS/possession-d-jpg.webp
I can't imagine the market for male sex dolls is very thriving. but I kind of want this Angelina Jolie lookalike
Wasn’t the whole MGTOW gonna blow up the sex doll industry? Why are they still crying about women then? Just saw a new MGTOW thread pop up. When will they understand that we simply don’t care.
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In all reality it would be a specific minority of men who purely want to keep women around for our hole and thus would be content with a sex doll. most normal people like dating and socializing with the opposite sex (or their preferred gender) for other reasons. I don't believe men are as sexually driven as they claim. maybe power driven, status driven...
What other reasons do you think? I haven’t encountered many men who genuinely enjoy platonic conversation. Maybe gems or aquas. As for being sexually driven, I have noticed a clear drop off in mid thirties (as opposed to 20s), but definitely still behaving like cavemen.
pretty much this is why I think men like pursuing, dating, and settling with real women:
-the ego boost it is to conquer a woman he hasn't hit yet
-the ego boost if he lands someone popular
-many of them need to exert power and control over someone who will take it, and this goes hand in hand with a sexual relationship between humans with a will to break
-many of them just get crushes and butterflies over women
-I definitely think the universal signs appreciate platonic relationships with women at the least. lots of men do. maybe it depends on their moon & hard aspects to it
-lots of em want kids
-they feel societal pressure to be married or in a LTR
-many are hypergamous
-many crave affection
I think those who see women as useful for only their holes have given up on a normal social life and fitting in and likely suffer mentally due to having to be part of society. People with porn addiction, video game addiction, maybe they feel inadequate in their masculinity due to a father they couldn't impress so they can't risk rejection, or they have a gross philia and can't get hard for normal women, like those who buy child sex dolls. people say sex is everything, but think about the common causes of breakups: I wouldn't call cheating a sexual basis, more of a power and ego thing, or a personality incompatibility/fighting with the partner leading to him cheating instead of dumping her first. you hear about women never putting out after marriage, but I believe there are tons of compatible libidos out there for every man and woman (unless he's really an outlier and as such prefers a doll).
I see so many couples functioning off passion arisen from the fight for control, and its why I don't mind being single but its also why I don't buy that men are thinking purely about sexual opportunity, convenience and quality. so many women are motivated to please men, or have matching libidos. but men will put a woman who is less sexually convenient or can offer lower quality sex on a pedestal if she's popular and unpresstclick to expand
I’ve always correlated the male ego and need for control/domination to sex. Those concepts go hand in hand for me.
What is it if not sexual?
If it’s a not constant push and pull, what satisfies them? Ultimate control and domination would be boring surely.
Posted by LuckyLibra7
Alimony is reserved for significant differences in pay or a housewife who takes care of the children. It is an absolutely ridiculous concept for a couple in the same tax bracket.
If a divorce is initiated, take what's yours and leave. In past cultures, the man would have to put up X amount of money in case of a divorce for the woman which is fair. But it's a set amount and not this continuous check that keeps coming to fulfill a failed obligation of marriage..
"Permanant" alimony is an even more ridiculous concept and you're crying that the system was created for men. Alimony was created to benefit women and unfortunately there will be outliers who escape paying.. sorry but they're not the majority.
You’re acting like alimony is awarded often even in those situations and that “equitable” distribution is innately fair. And neither is true.
Posted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by nanochipYou are projecting a woman's definition of "emotional fullfilment". Men are told they ultimately need a woman but aside from babymaking, all the single & mingle guys I know are perfectly happy with the emotional fullfilment from their male friends and sexually hooking up with women. Usually leaving your emotional fullfilment to women is a headache in itself.Posted by Enfant-Terrible-III don’t think men get emotional fulfillment from their bros or Saturday night hookups. Social and sexual fulfillment yes, they are not the same. Men get lonely just as much or more than women do. In society where men are expected to not talk much about their feelings, they often times only do that with a S.O, or a female platonic friend. The latter I think I’ve seen you say in the past was not possible? You got all over me for saying I had a platonic male friend once.
Lol wtf are you talking about, women these days can't take care of a home for shit.
I've seen more single men have tidier homes than single women.
Men cook elaborate meals, women can barely boil an egg or simply have "no interest in cooking".
Men take care of themselves physically even after entering a relationship, women fall apart on an average within 8 months.
Lol @ "emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere" . You are delusional. All men really need these days are their bros and a Saturday night hookup.
Yes, generalizations, but this has been my experience as a 21th century male with friends of both sexes. Maybe says more about my social circle than men/women, I dunno.
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Also married life does not guarantee a healthy sex life. Another point to strike off your list.
I don’t know, enfant. While I am sure some men are happy with the bachelor life style … these men eventually do settle down into marriage. I know so many lonely men who seem to think romantic companionship is the solution for them
To incels it is the solution because they go half their lives unfucked and unwanted so it becomes like the holy grail. "If someone would only fuck me that would solve all my problems!"
I'm willing to bet if you give the same man a lucky streak of 2 years with unlimited supply of attention from women they'd come to the conclusion - if they have a personality - that it's overrated and there are more important and interesting things in life than just the attention of the opposite sex.
As for your 2nd point.. absolutely, men settle down too! Men settle down harder than women. Women will announce you're the love of their life, then change their mind after a few years bc suddenly they are "unhappy" or "unfulfilled". Change is generally a female trait. Or flaw.
Men don't really have those episodes, have you noticed? If men settle down we do it exactly as advertised. We don't change our minds or hearts. Usually the wife will try to change the man she married and when he stays the man he's always been, she will announce she's "unhappy" lol.
Men however don't look for you to make us happy, that's a typically female delusion: "If only I find the right one, I will find happiness!" Failing to realize you'd have to be happy with yourself to begin with.
Granted there are those men - like you said - whose only aspiration in life is having a family and that's his only source of happiness and without it he's no one. I find them weird tbh and don't understand how their wives work up enough vaginal secrete to fuck them.
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I don’t completely disagree with a lot of this btw. But it does make me feel like, by your definition, incels are very common.
I don’t agree with the part about women trying to change men. What you see is what you get for the most part. Maybe women are delusional to believe we can be happy forever with one person, I don’t know. The initial happiness and excitement wears off and maybe that feeling is what we want to chase.
But a large portion of divorces are happening due to lower tolerance for abuse and cheating 🤷🏼♀️ I’ll always believe that.click to expand
Abuse is not a top reason for divorce. it's not as common as you think it is.
Women initiating divorce boils down to the convenience to do so often. It's typically financially related and lack of fulfillment. Although there are frugal women, the average relationship dynamic involves her spending more money than the man and constantly wanting to go on vacations. The man then cries that he needs to save. He caves into the wife, a rainy day happens and now we're full circle. She may leave because of money issues.
The burden of the relationship falls on the man whether the woman is right or wrong. At the end of the day it's still "you didn't do XYZ" and that's why the divorce is initiated.
Posted by nanochipPosted by LuckyLibra7
Alimony is reserved for significant differences in pay or a housewife who takes care of the children. It is an absolutely ridiculous concept for a couple in the same tax bracket.
If a divorce is initiated, take what's yours and leave. In past cultures, the man would have to put up X amount of money in case of a divorce for the woman which is fair. But it's a set amount and not this continuous check that keeps coming to fulfill a failed obligation of marriage..
"Permanant" alimony is an even more ridiculous concept and you're crying that the system was created for men. Alimony was created to benefit women and unfortunately there will be outliers who escape paying.. sorry but they're not the majority.
You’re acting like alimony is awarded often even in those situations and that “equitable” distribution is innately fair. And neither is true.click to expand
Out of the 400,000 people receiving alimony taken in the census, 3% are men.
What planet are you living on?
Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Undine
For men, marriage has clear HEALTH BENEFITS, since married men live in average LONGER than unmarried ones! This is not the case for women.
For women, marriage may have financial benefits when there are children to raise, but only with men that are stable and responsible (aka have skills that guarantee a good income and future promotions, save money without being stingy, spend little on clothes and gadgets for themself, and have no costly hobbies or addictions).
For both, living together saves costs (bills and possibly taxes). Like Saturn, marriage may bring stability to those with impulsive tendencies, keeping them in place when they would otherwise run for the hills at the first hurdle.
I call bullshit on that.
Somewhere someone conducted a (deeply flawed) study and just like the food pyramid it has been recycled again and again as facts.
How exactly does one go about conducting such a study in a reliable way? Do you even know yourself or you just like the way it sounds?
Say a woman lives single for 45 years, then marries in her later years and dies after 5 years of marriage? Which group does she belong to?
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Knock yourself out: "
Analyses of large, longitudinal samples have shown that married persons tend to have lower mortality rates and longer life expectancy than unmarried persons (Shurtleff, 1955; Rendall et al., 2011; Manzoli et al., 2007; Lillard & Waite, 1995; Johnson et al., 2000; Kaplan & Kronick, 2006, Chiu, 2019; Espenshade, 1983.) A systematic review comprised of studies published between 1995 and 2005 indicated that, among the elderly, marriage was a significant and independent predictor of survival, a finding that did not differ between men and women (Manzoli et al., 2007). The overall relative risk of death for married versus non-married persons was 0.88 and 0.90 for men and women, respectively. With regard to life expectancy, many population-based longitudinal studies have shown longer life expectancy among married persons than unmarried persons, for both men and women (Chiu, 2019; Martikainen et al., 2014).'
Those studies analysed old people and took into consideration their marital status at that time (married, divorced, separated, widowed, never married). The woman in your example, married for the first time in her sixties, would have been counted as "married". IRL, such women would have been as rare as a diamond...
Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-III don’t completely disagree with a lot of this btw. But it does make me feel like, by your definition, incels are very common.Posted by nanochipTo incels it is the solution because they go half their lives unfucked and unwanted so it becomes like the holy grail. "If someone would only fuck me that would solve all my problems!"Posted by Enfant-Terrible-III don’t know, enfant. While I am sure some men are happy with the bachelor life style … these men eventually do settle down into marriage. I know so many lonely men who seem to think romantic companionship is the solution for themPosted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-II
Lol wtf are you talking about, women these days can't take care of a home for shit.
I've seen more single men have tidier homes than single women.
Men cook elaborate meals, women can barely boil an egg or simply have "no interest in cooking".
Men take care of themselves physically even after entering a relationship, women fall apart on an average within 8 months.
Lol @ "emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere" . You are delusional. All men really need these days are their bros and a Saturday night hookup.
Yes, generalizations, but this has been my experience as a 21th century male with friends of both sexes. Maybe says more about my social circle than men/women, I dunno.
I don’t think men get emotional fulfillment from their bros or Saturday night hookups. Social and sexual fulfillment yes, they are not the same. Men get lonely just as much or more than women do. In society where men are expected to not talk much about their feelings, they often times only do that with a S.O, or a female platonic friend. The latter I think I’ve seen you say in the past was not possible? You got all over me for saying I had a platonic male friend once.
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You are projecting a woman's definition of "emotional fullfilment". Men are told they ultimately need a woman but aside from babymaking, all the single & mingle guys I know are perfectly happy with the emotional fullfilment from their male friends and sexually hooking up with women. Usually leaving your emotional fullfilment to women is a headache in itself.
Also married life does not guarantee a healthy sex life. Another point to strike off your list.
I'm willing to bet if you give the same man a lucky streak of 2 years with unlimited supply of attention from women they'd come to the conclusion - if they have a personality - that it's overrated and there are more important and interesting things in life than just the attention of the opposite sex.
As for your 2nd point.. absolutely, men settle down too! Men settle down harder than women. Women will announce you're the love of their life, then change their mind after a few years bc suddenly they are "unhappy" or "unfulfilled". Change is generally a female trait. Or flaw.
Men don't really have those episodes, have you noticed? If men settle down we do it exactly as advertised. We don't change our minds or hearts. Usually the wife will try to change the man she married and when he stays the man he's always been, she will announce she's "unhappy" lol.
Men however don't look for you to make us happy, that's a typically female delusion: "If only I find the right one, I will find happiness!" Failing to realize you'd have to be happy with yourself to begin with.
Granted there are those men - like you said - whose only aspiration in life is having a family and that's his only source of happiness and without it he's no one. I find them weird tbh and don't understand how their wives work up enough vaginal secrete to fuck them.
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I don’t agree with the part about women trying to change men. What you see is what you get for the most part. Maybe women are delusional to believe we can be happy forever with one person, I don’t know. The initial happiness and excitement wears off and maybe that feeling is what we want to chase.
But a large portion of divorces are happening due to lower tolerance for abuse and cheating 🤷🏼♀️ I’ll always believe that.
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Abuse is not a top reason for divorce. it's not as common as you think it is.
Women initiating divorce boils down to the convenience to do so often. It's typically financially related and lack of fulfillment. Although there are frugal women, the average relationship dynamic involves her spending more money than the man and constantly wanting to go on vacations. The man then cries that he needs to save. He caves into the wife, a rainy day happens and now we're full circle. She may leave because of money issues.
The burden of the relationship falls on the man whether the woman is right or wrong. At the end of the day it's still "you didn't do XYZ" and that's why the divorce is initiated.click to expand
I really doubt that you get to speak out on whether women are being abused or not, it seems insane for any man to make such a statement. There’s no accurate way to quantify it when women themselves don’t always speak out when they are, but if we choose to believe women when they actually do, then it’s very common.
I don’t know of any couples who are divorced because the women want constant vacations 😂 In fact, Americans actually rarely do even go on vacation and travel with their allotted PTO! So I have no idea who’s ass you pulled that one from
Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by nanochipPosted by LuckyLibra7
Alimony is reserved for significant differences in pay or a housewife who takes care of the children. It is an absolutely ridiculous concept for a couple in the same tax bracket.
If a divorce is initiated, take what's yours and leave. In past cultures, the man would have to put up X amount of money in case of a divorce for the woman which is fair. But it's a set amount and not this continuous check that keeps coming to fulfill a failed obligation of marriage..
"Permanant" alimony is an even more ridiculous concept and you're crying that the system was created for men. Alimony was created to benefit women and unfortunately there will be outliers who escape paying.. sorry but they're not the majority.
You’re acting like alimony is awarded often even in those situations and that “equitable” distribution is innately fair. And neither is true.
Out of the 400,000 people receiving alimony taken in the census, 3% are men.
What planet are you living on?click to expand
I never said anything about the men getting alimony. I’m saying divorcées don’t often get alimony period.
Posted by nanochipPosted by LuckyLibra7Posted by nanochipPosted by LuckyLibra7
Alimony is reserved for significant differences in pay or a housewife who takes care of the children. It is an absolutely ridiculous concept for a couple in the same tax bracket.
If a divorce is initiated, take what's yours and leave. In past cultures, the man would have to put up X amount of money in case of a divorce for the woman which is fair. But it's a set amount and not this continuous check that keeps coming to fulfill a failed obligation of marriage..
"Permanant" alimony is an even more ridiculous concept and you're crying that the system was created for men. Alimony was created to benefit women and unfortunately there will be outliers who escape paying.. sorry but they're not the majority.
You’re acting like alimony is awarded often even in those situations and that “equitable” distribution is innately fair. And neither is true.
Out of the 400,000 people receiving alimony taken in the census, 3% are men.
What planet are you living on?
I never said anything about the men getting alimony. I’m saying divorcées don’t often get alimony period.click to expand
There’s a way out of everything. But the majority of women do get paid alimony that fall into that bracket.
Just as the number of women paying alimony has increased due to their earnings since the 70s and 80s.
Posted by StubbornSag
But think about it, does it ever happen to smart, educated women, those who got grip on their lives and have their own income? So in a way, they did that to themselves. One should never put their whole life and trust in someone else and should rely on themselves for the most part.
This is kind of the point of the OP and something that doesn’t have enough light shed on it. Parents have an obligation to educate their daughters about the consequences of what can happen if they choose a life of domestic servitude. I imagine that you want your daughter to be happy, independent, capable of taking care of herself??
The recurring archaic scenario of being trapped in a marriage is very 1940s and can be easily avoided with a bit of education. On the opposite side, if the couple choose to go that route and it works out forever, great! If they get a divorce, but the women is able to continue to raise her children in a healthy environment, great! More power to them.
Posted by nanochipPosted by LuckyLibra7Posted by nanochipAbuse is not a top reason for divorce. it's not as common as you think it is.Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-II
Lol wtf are you talking about, women these days can't take care of a home for shit.
I've seen more single men have tidier homes than single women.
Men cook elaborate meals, women can barely boil an egg or simply have "no interest in cooking".
Men take care of themselves physically even after entering a relationship, women fall apart on an average within 8 months.
Lol @ "emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere" . You are delusional. All men really need these days are their bros and a Saturday night hookup.
Yes, generalizations, but this has been my experience as a 21th century male with friends of both sexes. Maybe says more about my social circle than men/women, I dunno.
I don’t think men get emotional fulfillment from their bros or Saturday night hookups. Social and sexual fulfillment yes, they are not the same. Men get lonely just as much or more than women do. In society where men are expected to not talk much about their feelings, they often times only do that with a S.O, or a female platonic friend. The latter I think I’ve seen you say in the past was not possible? You got all over me for saying I had a platonic male friend once.
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You are projecting a woman's definition of "emotional fullfilment". Men are told they ultimately need a woman but aside from babymaking, all the single & mingle guys I know are perfectly happy with the emotional fullfilment from their male friends and sexually hooking up with women. Usually leaving your emotional fullfilment to women is a headache in itself.
Also married life does not guarantee a healthy sex life. Another point to strike off your list.
I don’t know, enfant. While I am sure some men are happy with the bachelor life style … these men eventually do settle down into marriage. I know so many lonely men who seem to think romantic companionship is the solution for them
To incels it is the solution because they go half their lives unfucked and unwanted so it becomes like the holy grail. "If someone would only fuck me that would solve all my problems!"
I'm willing to bet if you give the same man a lucky streak of 2 years with unlimited supply of attention from women they'd come to the conclusion - if they have a personality - that it's overrated and there are more important and interesting things in life than just the attention of the opposite sex.
As for your 2nd point.. absolutely, men settle down too! Men settle down harder than women. Women will announce you're the love of their life, then change their mind after a few years bc suddenly they are "unhappy" or "unfulfilled". Change is generally a female trait. Or flaw.
Men don't really have those episodes, have you noticed? If men settle down we do it exactly as advertised. We don't change our minds or hearts. Usually the wife will try to change the man she married and when he stays the man he's always been, she will announce she's "unhappy" lol.
Men however don't look for you to make us happy, that's a typically female delusion: "If only I find the right one, I will find happiness!" Failing to realize you'd have to be happy with yourself to begin with.
Granted there are those men - like you said - whose only aspiration in life is having a family and that's his only source of happiness and without it he's no one. I find them weird tbh and don't understand how their wives work up enough vaginal secrete to fuck them.
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I don’t completely disagree with a lot of this btw. But it does make me feel like, by your definition, incels are very common.
I don’t agree with the part about women trying to change men. What you see is what you get for the most part. Maybe women are delusional to believe we can be happy forever with one person, I don’t know. The initial happiness and excitement wears off and maybe that feeling is what we want to chase.
But a large portion of divorces are happening due to lower tolerance for abuse and cheating 🤷🏼♀️ I’ll always believe that.
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Women initiating divorce boils down to the convenience to do so often. It's typically financially related and lack of fulfillment. Although there are frugal women, the average relationship dynamic involves her spending more money than the man and constantly wanting to go on vacations. The man then cries that he needs to save. He caves into the wife, a rainy day happens and now we're full circle. She may leave because of money issues.
The burden of the relationship falls on the man whether the woman is right or wrong. At the end of the day it's still "you didn't do XYZ" and that's why the divorce is initiated.
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I really doubt that you get to speak out on whether women are being abused or not, it seems insane for any man to make such a statement. There’s no accurate way to quantify it when women themselves don’t always speak out when they are, but if we choose to believe women when they actually do, then it’s very common.
I don’t know of any couples who are divorced because the women want constant vacations 😂 In fact, Americans actually rarely do even go on vacation and travel with their allotted PTO! So I have no idea who’s ass you pulled that one fromclick to expand
That's an outrageous claim to speak as if the majority of women are abused in marriage.
According to the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, 1 in 7 women has been assaulted by their partner. Does that sound like the majority?
Do you even live in America?? The airports & planes are constantly packed. There hasn't been a dip in people taking vacations. Are people paying more.. sure, but they're still on vacation.
The vacation thing is an example, don't take it literal. I'm just illustrating that those are the common dynamics, and I can attest there are co-workers in my office amongst other people who are constantly disputing over money with their wives.
Women collectively are the largest consumers for spending. This spills over into relationships, it's not rocket science and it's not necessarily a bad thing. The perspectives are just different, but ultimately you're insane if you think marriages often fail because of abuse. Tons of people aren't abused or cheated on..
Marriages fail typically because of the lack of flexibility, forgiveness and communication on both ends. But it's still the man's fault as illustrated in this thread.
Posted by UndinePosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Undine
For men, marriage has clear HEALTH BENEFITS, since married men live in average LONGER than unmarried ones! This is not the case for women.
For women, marriage may have financial benefits when there are children to raise, but only with men that are stable and responsible (aka have skills that guarantee a good income and future promotions, save money without being stingy, spend little on clothes and gadgets for themself, and have no costly hobbies or addictions).
For both, living together saves costs (bills and possibly taxes). Like Saturn, marriage may bring stability to those with impulsive tendencies, keeping them in place when they would otherwise run for the hills at the first hurdle.
I call bullshit on that.
Somewhere someone conducted a (deeply flawed) study and just like the food pyramid it has been recycled again and again as facts.
How exactly does one go about conducting such a study in a reliable way? Do you even know yourself or you just like the way it sounds?
Say a woman lives single for 45 years, then marries in her later years and dies after 5 years of marriage? Which group does she belong to?
Knock yourself out: "
Analyses of large, longitudinal samples have shown that married persons tend to have lower mortality rates and longer life expectancy than unmarried persons (Shurtleff, 1955; Rendall et al., 2011; Manzoli et al., 2007; Lillard & Waite, 1995; Johnson et al., 2000; Kaplan & Kronick, 2006, Chiu, 2019; Espenshade, 1983.) A systematic review comprised of studies published between 1995 and 2005 indicated that, among the elderly, marriage was a significant and independent predictor of survival, a finding that did not differ between men and women (Manzoli et al., 2007). The overall relative risk of death for married versus non-married persons was 0.88 and 0.90 for men and women, respectively. With regard to life expectancy, many population-based longitudinal studies have shown longer life expectancy among married persons than unmarried persons, for both men and women (Chiu, 2019; Martikainen et al., 2014).'
Those studies analysed old people and took into consideration their marital status at that time (married, divorced, separated, widowed, never married). The woman in your example, married for the first time in her sixties, would have been counted as "married". IRL, such women would have been as rare as a diamond...click to expand
Where exactly does it say married men live longer than married women?
Also, my example is just to illustrate that there are too many impossible variables to take into account for it to be taken seriousely or to have any real scientific value.
For example, could it also be that wives berete their men more frequently about shit like having to go to get their prostates checked whereas if the same men were single they'd have died cuz they wouldn't have bothered to cuz men suck that way? lol
Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by nanochipPosted by LuckyLibra7Posted by nanochipAbuse is not a top reason for divorce. it's not as common as you think it is.Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-II
Lol wtf are you talking about, women these days can't take care of a home for shit.
I've seen more single men have tidier homes than single women.
Men cook elaborate meals, women can barely boil an egg or simply have "no interest in cooking".
Men take care of themselves physically even after entering a relationship, women fall apart on an average within 8 months.
Lol @ "emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere" . You are delusional. All men really need these days are their bros and a Saturday night hookup.
Yes, generalizations, but this has been my experience as a 21th century male with friends of both sexes. Maybe says more about my social circle than men/women, I dunno.
I don’t think men get emotional fulfillment from their bros or Saturday night hookups. Social and sexual fulfillment yes, they are not the same. Men get lonely just as much or more than women do. In society where men are expected to not talk much about their feelings, they often times only do that with a S.O, or a female platonic friend. The latter I think I’ve seen you say in the past was not possible? You got all over me for saying I had a platonic male friend once.
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You are projecting a woman's definition of "emotional fullfilment". Men are told they ultimately need a woman but aside from babymaking, all the single & mingle guys I know are perfectly happy with the emotional fullfilment from their male friends and sexually hooking up with women. Usually leaving your emotional fullfilment to women is a headache in itself.
Also married life does not guarantee a healthy sex life. Another point to strike off your list.
I don’t know, enfant. While I am sure some men are happy with the bachelor life style … these men eventually do settle down into marriage. I know so many lonely men who seem to think romantic companionship is the solution for them
To incels it is the solution because they go half their lives unfucked and unwanted so it becomes like the holy grail. "If someone would only fuck me that would solve all my problems!"
I'm willing to bet if you give the same man a lucky streak of 2 years with unlimited supply of attention from women they'd come to the conclusion - if they have a personality - that it's overrated and there are more important and interesting things in life than just the attention of the opposite sex.
As for your 2nd point.. absolutely, men settle down too! Men settle down harder than women. Women will announce you're the love of their life, then change their mind after a few years bc suddenly they are "unhappy" or "unfulfilled". Change is generally a female trait. Or flaw.
Men don't really have those episodes, have you noticed? If men settle down we do it exactly as advertised. We don't change our minds or hearts. Usually the wife will try to change the man she married and when he stays the man he's always been, she will announce she's "unhappy" lol.
Men however don't look for you to make us happy, that's a typically female delusion: "If only I find the right one, I will find happiness!" Failing to realize you'd have to be happy with yourself to begin with.
Granted there are those men - like you said - whose only aspiration in life is having a family and that's his only source of happiness and without it he's no one. I find them weird tbh and don't understand how their wives work up enough vaginal secrete to fuck them.
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I don’t completely disagree with a lot of this btw. But it does make me feel like, by your definition, incels are very common.
I don’t agree with the part about women trying to change men. What you see is what you get for the most part. Maybe women are delusional to believe we can be happy forever with one person, I don’t know. The initial happiness and excitement wears off and maybe that feeling is what we want to chase.
But a large portion of divorces are happening due to lower tolerance for abuse and cheating 🤷🏼♀️ I’ll always believe that.
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Women initiating divorce boils down to the convenience to do so often. It's typically financially related and lack of fulfillment. Although there are frugal women, the average relationship dynamic involves her spending more money than the man and constantly wanting to go on vacations. The man then cries that he needs to save. He caves into the wife, a rainy day happens and now we're full circle. She may leave because of money issues.
The burden of the relationship falls on the man whether the woman is right or wrong. At the end of the day it's still "you didn't do XYZ" and that's why the divorce is initiated.
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I really doubt that you get to speak out on whether women are being abused or not, it seems insane for any man to make such a statement. There’s no accurate way to quantify it when women themselves don’t always speak out when they are, but if we choose to believe women when they actually do, then it’s very common.
I don’t know of any couples who are divorced because the women want constant vacations 😂 In fact, Americans actually rarely do even go on vacation and travel with their allotted PTO! So I have no idea who’s ass you pulled that one from
That's an outrageous claim to speak as if the majority of women are abused in marriage.
According to the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, 1 in 7 women has been assaulted by their partner. Does that sound like the majority?
Do you even live in America?? The airports & planes are constantly packed. There hasn't been a dip in people taking vacations. Are people paying more.. sure, but they're still on vacation.click to expand
I can’t communicate with people who put words in my mouth to try to artificially bolster their arguments, just repeating back some BS I never said like a deaf parrot or what
Never said majority of women are abused - I said it’s common
Never said people are taking vacations less - I said vacations are not the main reason women are divorcing
Like WHAT
Do not put words in my mouth, it’s very annoying
Posted by EggrollPosted by LuckyLibra7
Alimony is reserved for significant differences in pay or a housewife who takes care of the children. It is an absolutely ridiculous concept for a couple in the same tax bracket.
If a divorce is initiated, take what's yours and leave. In past cultures, the man would have to put up X amount of money in case of a divorce for the woman which is fair. But it's a set amount and not this continuous check that keeps coming to fulfill a failed obligation of marriage..
"Permanant" alimony is an even more ridiculous concept and you're crying that the system was created for men. Alimony was created to benefit women and unfortunately there will be outliers who escape paying.. sorry but they're not the majority.
I was waiting for this argument. This is why I would never encourage a woman to learn to cook or any domestic skills to attract a man. Domestic labor and child rearing is not valued by men. They want you to sacrifice building your career handling the domestic labor and then tel you to leave empty handed.
Women go to school and get as much higher education as you need to out earn your husband so that he can sacrifice moving up in his career. That way if he wants to leave the marriage he’ll be 10 years behind in career building experience. Make him sacrifice his financial security and sabotage his earning potential.click to expand
This so something so simple and so self explanatory, yet they are fiercely committed to not understanding. It’s the audacity to think that the sacrifice belongs to the woman. I tried so hard to get that point across and I clearly failed.
What if you do make more? Will they acknowledge that and be the willing sacrificial lamb? Doubt it.
Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by UndinePosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Undine
For men, marriage has clear HEALTH BENEFITS, since married men live in average LONGER than unmarried ones! This is not the case for women.
For women, marriage may have financial benefits when there are children to raise, but only with men that are stable and responsible (aka have skills that guarantee a good income and future promotions, save money without being stingy, spend little on clothes and gadgets for themself, and have no costly hobbies or addictions).
For both, living together saves costs (bills and possibly taxes). Like Saturn, marriage may bring stability to those with impulsive tendencies, keeping them in place when they would otherwise run for the hills at the first hurdle.
I call bullshit on that.
Somewhere someone conducted a (deeply flawed) study and just like the food pyramid it has been recycled again and again as facts.
How exactly does one go about conducting such a study in a reliable way? Do you even know yourself or you just like the way it sounds?
Say a woman lives single for 45 years, then marries in her later years and dies after 5 years of marriage? Which group does she belong to?
Knock yourself out: "
Analyses of large, longitudinal samples have shown that married persons tend to have lower mortality rates and longer life expectancy than unmarried persons (Shurtleff, 1955; Rendall et al., 2011; Manzoli et al., 2007; Lillard & Waite, 1995; Johnson et al., 2000; Kaplan & Kronick, 2006, Chiu, 2019; Espenshade, 1983.) A systematic review comprised of studies published between 1995 and 2005 indicated that, among the elderly, marriage was a significant and independent predictor of survival, a finding that did not differ between men and women (Manzoli et al., 2007). The overall relative risk of death for married versus non-married persons was 0.88 and 0.90 for men and women, respectively. With regard to life expectancy, many population-based longitudinal studies have shown longer life expectancy among married persons than unmarried persons, for both men and women (Chiu, 2019; Martikainen et al., 2014).'
Those studies analysed old people and took into consideration their marital status at that time (married, divorced, separated, widowed, never married). The woman in your example, married for the first time in her sixties, would have been counted as "married". IRL, such women would have been as rare as a diamond...
Where exactly does it say married men live longer than married women?
Also, my example is just to illustrate that there are too many impossible variables to take into account for it to be taken seriousely or to have any real scientific value.
For example, could it also be that wives berete their men more frequently about shit like having to go to get their prostates checked whereas if the same men were single they'd have died cuz they wouldn't have bothered to cuz men suck that way? lolclick to expand
You'd need to read through some the those complex studies --published in serious, peer reviewed, scientific journals-- to draw your own conclusion. The reasons behind the differences...could only be speculated about. I believe that being nagged to see a doctor early on could be one of them, why not 🙂
Posted by EggrollPosted by LuckyLibra7
Alimony is reserved for significant differences in pay or a housewife who takes care of the children. It is an absolutely ridiculous concept for a couple in the same tax bracket.
If a divorce is initiated, take what's yours and leave. In past cultures, the man would have to put up X amount of money in case of a divorce for the woman which is fair. But it's a set amount and not this continuous check that keeps coming to fulfill a failed obligation of marriage..
"Permanant" alimony is an even more ridiculous concept and you're crying that the system was created for men. Alimony was created to benefit women and unfortunately there will be outliers who escape paying.. sorry but they're not the majority.
I was waiting for this argument. This is why I would never encourage a woman to learn to cook or any domestic skills to attract a man. Domestic labor and child rearing is not valued by men. They want you to sacrifice building your career handling the domestic labor and then tel you to leave empty handed.
Women go to school and get as much higher education as you need to out earn your husband so that he can sacrifice moving up in his career. That way if he wants to leave the marriage he’ll be 10 years behind in career building experience. Make him sacrifice his financial security and sabotage his earning potential.click to expand
That's a cultural issue.
Historically speaking, women having careers is a modern concept. Sure, there were outliers and most had gigs such as weaving or making trinkets such as things on Etsy. But collectively this hasn't happened before. White Collar jobs are a modern invention too, which allowed women to elevate.
The boy is cemented as the breadwinner from birth by their mother AND father. So it's not far-featched that there's tension in this area when seeking a partner
Now we have two people working 40+ hours a week and daycares raise the children. Careers and families don't mesh no matter what dreams you're sold or just so happen to meet an indvidual that has a decent job.
Posted by nanochipPosted by LuckyLibra7Posted by nanochipPosted by LuckyLibra7Posted by nanochipAbuse is not a top reason for divorce. it's not as common as you think it is.Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-II
Lol wtf are you talking about, women these days can't take care of a home for shit.
I've seen more single men have tidier homes than single women.
Men cook elaborate meals, women can barely boil an egg or simply have "no interest in cooking".
Men take care of themselves physically even after entering a relationship, women fall apart on an average within 8 months.
Lol @ "emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere" . You are delusional. All men really need these days are their bros and a Saturday night hookup.
Yes, generalizations, but this has been my experience as a 21th century male with friends of both sexes. Maybe says more about my social circle than men/women, I dunno.
I don’t think men get emotional fulfillment from their bros or Saturday night hookups. Social and sexual fulfillment yes, they are not the same. Men get lonely just as much or more than women do. In society where men are expected to not talk much about their feelings, they often times only do that with a S.O, or a female platonic friend. The latter I think I’ve seen you say in the past was not possible? You got all over me for saying I had a platonic male friend once.
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You are projecting a woman's definition of "emotional fullfilment". Men are told they ultimately need a woman but aside from babymaking, all the single & mingle guys I know are perfectly happy with the emotional fullfilment from their male friends and sexually hooking up with women. Usually leaving your emotional fullfilment to women is a headache in itself.
Also married life does not guarantee a healthy sex life. Another point to strike off your list.
I don’t know, enfant. While I am sure some men are happy with the bachelor life style … these men eventually do settle down into marriage. I know so many lonely men who seem to think romantic companionship is the solution for them
To incels it is the solution because they go half their lives unfucked and unwanted so it becomes like the holy grail. "If someone would only fuck me that would solve all my problems!"
I'm willing to bet if you give the same man a lucky streak of 2 years with unlimited supply of attention from women they'd come to the conclusion - if they have a personality - that it's overrated and there are more important and interesting things in life than just the attention of the opposite sex.
As for your 2nd point.. absolutely, men settle down too! Men settle down harder than women. Women will announce you're the love of their life, then change their mind after a few years bc suddenly they are "unhappy" or "unfulfilled". Change is generally a female trait. Or flaw.
Men don't really have those episodes, have you noticed? If men settle down we do it exactly as advertised. We don't change our minds or hearts. Usually the wife will try to change the man she married and when he stays the man he's always been, she will announce she's "unhappy" lol.
Men however don't look for you to make us happy, that's a typically female delusion: "If only I find the right one, I will find happiness!" Failing to realize you'd have to be happy with yourself to begin with.
Granted there are those men - like you said - whose only aspiration in life is having a family and that's his only source of happiness and without it he's no one. I find them weird tbh and don't understand how their wives work up enough vaginal secrete to fuck them.
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I don’t completely disagree with a lot of this btw. But it does make me feel like, by your definition, incels are very common.
I don’t agree with the part about women trying to change men. What you see is what you get for the most part. Maybe women are delusional to believe we can be happy forever with one person, I don’t know. The initial happiness and excitement wears off and maybe that feeling is what we want to chase.
But a large portion of divorces are happening due to lower tolerance for abuse and cheating 🤷🏼♀️ I’ll always believe that.
click to expand
Women initiating divorce boils down to the convenience to do so often. It's typically financially related and lack of fulfillment. Although there are frugal women, the average relationship dynamic involves her spending more money than the man and constantly wanting to go on vacations. The man then cries that he needs to save. He caves into the wife, a rainy day happens and now we're full circle. She may leave because of money issues.
The burden of the relationship falls on the man whether the woman is right or wrong. At the end of the day it's still "you didn't do XYZ" and that's why the divorce is initiated.
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I really doubt that you get to speak out on whether women are being abused or not, it seems insane for any man to make such a statement. There’s no accurate way to quantify it when women themselves don’t always speak out when they are, but if we choose to believe women when they actually do, then it’s very common.
I don’t know of any couples who are divorced because the women want constant vacations 😂 In fact, Americans actually rarely do even go on vacation and travel with their allotted PTO! So I have no idea who’s ass you pulled that one from
That's an outrageous claim to speak as if the majority of women are abused in marriage.
According to the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, 1 in 7 women has been assaulted by their partner. Does that sound like the majority?
Do you even live in America?? The airports & planes are constantly packed. There hasn't been a dip in people taking vacations. Are people paying more.. sure, but they're still on vacation.
I can’t communicate with people who put words in my mouth to try to artificially bolster their arguments, just repeating back some BS I never said like a deaf parrot or what
Never said majority of women are abused - I said it’s common
Never said people are taking vacations less - I said vacations are not the main reason women are divorcing
Like WHAT
Do not put words in my mouth, it’s very annoyingclick to expand
You actually said "very common if we choose to believe women when they speak on it." Signifying that it's popular.
I can't communicate with people who use poor choice of words then get upset.
Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by nanochipPosted by LuckyLibra7Posted by nanochipPosted by LuckyLibra7Posted by nanochipAbuse is not a top reason for divorce. it's not as common as you think it is.Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-II
Lol wtf are you talking about, women these days can't take care of a home for shit.
I've seen more single men have tidier homes than single women.
Men cook elaborate meals, women can barely boil an egg or simply have "no interest in cooking".
Men take care of themselves physically even after entering a relationship, women fall apart on an average within 8 months.
Lol @ "emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere" . You are delusional. All men really need these days are their bros and a Saturday night hookup.
Yes, generalizations, but this has been my experience as a 21th century male with friends of both sexes. Maybe says more about my social circle than men/women, I dunno.
I don’t think men get emotional fulfillment from their bros or Saturday night hookups. Social and sexual fulfillment yes, they are not the same. Men get lonely just as much or more than women do. In society where men are expected to not talk much about their feelings, they often times only do that with a S.O, or a female platonic friend. The latter I think I’ve seen you say in the past was not possible? You got all over me for saying I had a platonic male friend once.
click to expand
You are projecting a woman's definition of "emotional fullfilment". Men are told they ultimately need a woman but aside from babymaking, all the single & mingle guys I know are perfectly happy with the emotional fullfilment from their male friends and sexually hooking up with women. Usually leaving your emotional fullfilment to women is a headache in itself.
Also married life does not guarantee a healthy sex life. Another point to strike off your list.
I don’t know, enfant. While I am sure some men are happy with the bachelor life style … these men eventually do settle down into marriage. I know so many lonely men who seem to think romantic companionship is the solution for them
To incels it is the solution because they go half their lives unfucked and unwanted so it becomes like the holy grail. "If someone would only fuck me that would solve all my problems!"
I'm willing to bet if you give the same man a lucky streak of 2 years with unlimited supply of attention from women they'd come to the conclusion - if they have a personality - that it's overrated and there are more important and interesting things in life than just the attention of the opposite sex.
As for your 2nd point.. absolutely, men settle down too! Men settle down harder than women. Women will announce you're the love of their life, then change their mind after a few years bc suddenly they are "unhappy" or "unfulfilled". Change is generally a female trait. Or flaw.
Men don't really have those episodes, have you noticed? If men settle down we do it exactly as advertised. We don't change our minds or hearts. Usually the wife will try to change the man she married and when he stays the man he's always been, she will announce she's "unhappy" lol.
Men however don't look for you to make us happy, that's a typically female delusion: "If only I find the right one, I will find happiness!" Failing to realize you'd have to be happy with yourself to begin with.
Granted there are those men - like you said - whose only aspiration in life is having a family and that's his only source of happiness and without it he's no one. I find them weird tbh and don't understand how their wives work up enough vaginal secrete to fuck them.
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I don’t completely disagree with a lot of this btw. But it does make me feel like, by your definition, incels are very common.
I don’t agree with the part about women trying to change men. What you see is what you get for the most part. Maybe women are delusional to believe we can be happy forever with one person, I don’t know. The initial happiness and excitement wears off and maybe that feeling is what we want to chase.
But a large portion of divorces are happening due to lower tolerance for abuse and cheating 🤷🏼♀️ I’ll always believe that.
click to expand
Women initiating divorce boils down to the convenience to do so often. It's typically financially related and lack of fulfillment. Although there are frugal women, the average relationship dynamic involves her spending more money than the man and constantly wanting to go on vacations. The man then cries that he needs to save. He caves into the wife, a rainy day happens and now we're full circle. She may leave because of money issues.
The burden of the relationship falls on the man whether the woman is right or wrong. At the end of the day it's still "you didn't do XYZ" and that's why the divorce is initiated.
click to expand
I really doubt that you get to speak out on whether women are being abused or not, it seems insane for any man to make such a statement. There’s no accurate way to quantify it when women themselves don’t always speak out when they are, but if we choose to believe women when they actually do, then it’s very common.
I don’t know of any couples who are divorced because the women want constant vacations 😂 In fact, Americans actually rarely do even go on vacation and travel with their allotted PTO! So I have no idea who’s ass you pulled that one from
That's an outrageous claim to speak as if the majority of women are abused in marriage.
According to the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, 1 in 7 women has been assaulted by their partner. Does that sound like the majority?
Do you even live in America?? The airports & planes are constantly packed. There hasn't been a dip in people taking vacations. Are people paying more.. sure, but they're still on vacation.
I can’t communicate with people who put words in my mouth to try to artificially bolster their arguments, just repeating back some BS I never said like a deaf parrot or what
Never said majority of women are abused - I said it’s common
Never said people are taking vacations less - I said vacations are not the main reason women are divorcing
Like WHAT
Do not put words in my mouth, it’s very annoying
You actually said "very common." Signifying that it's popular.
I can't communicate with people who use poor choice of words then get upset.click to expand
Lol look, now it’s very common > popular > majority
Can you see how far you’re reaching now. I’m sure your arms are sore.
Posted by UndinePosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by UndinePosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Undine
For men, marriage has clear HEALTH BENEFITS, since married men live in average LONGER than unmarried ones! This is not the case for women.
For women, marriage may have financial benefits when there are children to raise, but only with men that are stable and responsible (aka have skills that guarantee a good income and future promotions, save money without being stingy, spend little on clothes and gadgets for themself, and have no costly hobbies or addictions).
For both, living together saves costs (bills and possibly taxes). Like Saturn, marriage may bring stability to those with impulsive tendencies, keeping them in place when they would otherwise run for the hills at the first hurdle.
I call bullshit on that.
Somewhere someone conducted a (deeply flawed) study and just like the food pyramid it has been recycled again and again as facts.
How exactly does one go about conducting such a study in a reliable way? Do you even know yourself or you just like the way it sounds?
Say a woman lives single for 45 years, then marries in her later years and dies after 5 years of marriage? Which group does she belong to?
Knock yourself out: "
Analyses of large, longitudinal samples have shown that married persons tend to have lower mortality rates and longer life expectancy than unmarried persons (Shurtleff, 1955; Rendall et al., 2011; Manzoli et al., 2007; Lillard & Waite, 1995; Johnson et al., 2000; Kaplan & Kronick, 2006, Chiu, 2019; Espenshade, 1983.) A systematic review comprised of studies published between 1995 and 2005 indicated that, among the elderly, marriage was a significant and independent predictor of survival, a finding that did not differ between men and women (Manzoli et al., 2007). The overall relative risk of death for married versus non-married persons was 0.88 and 0.90 for men and women, respectively. With regard to life expectancy, many population-based longitudinal studies have shown longer life expectancy among married persons than unmarried persons, for both men and women (Chiu, 2019; Martikainen et al., 2014).'
Those studies analysed old people and took into consideration their marital status at that time (married, divorced, separated, widowed, never married). The woman in your example, married for the first time in her sixties, would have been counted as "married". IRL, such women would have been as rare as a diamond...
Where exactly does it say married men live longer than married women?
Also, my example is just to illustrate that there are too many impossible variables to take into account for it to be taken seriousely or to have any real scientific value.
For example, could it also be that wives berete their men more frequently about shit like having to go to get their prostates checked whereas if the same men were single they'd have died cuz they wouldn't have bothered to cuz men suck that way? lol
You'd need to read through some the those complex studies --published in serious, peer reviewed, scientific journals-- to draw your own conclusion. The reasons behind the differences...could only be speculated about. I believe that being nagged to see a doctor early on could be one of them, why not 🙂click to expand
I don't have to do dick. You came with the claims, you should have no problem breaking it down.
I am assuming you have actually read yourself "those complex studies published in serious, peer reviewed, scientific journals" before you drew your conclusions of the validity of said studies?
I mean you didn't just Google "married men live longer than women" and just grazed through a sciency-looking article before speaking on the topic?
Right?
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