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Posted by nanochipPosted by LuckyLibra7Posted by nanochipPosted by LuckyLibra7Posted by nanochipPosted by LuckyLibra7Posted by nanochipAbuse is not a top reason for divorce. it's not as common as you think it is.Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-II
Lol wtf are you talking about, women these days can't take care of a home for shit.
I've seen more single men have tidier homes than single women.
Men cook elaborate meals, women can barely boil an egg or simply have "no interest in cooking".
Men take care of themselves physically even after entering a relationship, women fall apart on an average within 8 months.
Lol @ "emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere" . You are delusional. All men really need these days are their bros and a Saturday night hookup.
Yes, generalizations, but this has been my experience as a 21th century male with friends of both sexes. Maybe says more about my social circle than men/women, I dunno.
I don’t think men get emotional fulfillment from their bros or Saturday night hookups. Social and sexual fulfillment yes, they are not the same. Men get lonely just as much or more than women do. In society where men are expected to not talk much about their feelings, they often times only do that with a S.O, or a female platonic friend. The latter I think I’ve seen you say in the past was not possible? You got all over me for saying I had a platonic male friend once.
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You are projecting a woman's definition of "emotional fullfilment". Men are told they ultimately need a woman but aside from babymaking, all the single & mingle guys I know are perfectly happy with the emotional fullfilment from their male friends and sexually hooking up with women. Usually leaving your emotional fullfilment to women is a headache in itself.
Also married life does not guarantee a healthy sex life. Another point to strike off your list.
I don’t know, enfant. While I am sure some men are happy with the bachelor life style … these men eventually do settle down into marriage. I know so many lonely men who seem to think romantic companionship is the solution for them
To incels it is the solution because they go half their lives unfucked and unwanted so it becomes like the holy grail. "If someone would only fuck me that would solve all my problems!"
I'm willing to bet if you give the same man a lucky streak of 2 years with unlimited supply of attention from women they'd come to the conclusion - if they have a personality - that it's overrated and there are more important and interesting things in life than just the attention of the opposite sex.
As for your 2nd point.. absolutely, men settle down too! Men settle down harder than women. Women will announce you're the love of their life, then change their mind after a few years bc suddenly they are "unhappy" or "unfulfilled". Change is generally a female trait. Or flaw.
Men don't really have those episodes, have you noticed? If men settle down we do it exactly as advertised. We don't change our minds or hearts. Usually the wife will try to change the man she married and when he stays the man he's always been, she will announce she's "unhappy" lol.
Men however don't look for you to make us happy, that's a typically female delusion: "If only I find the right one, I will find happiness!" Failing to realize you'd have to be happy with yourself to begin with.
Granted there are those men - like you said - whose only aspiration in life is having a family and that's his only source of happiness and without it he's no one. I find them weird tbh and don't understand how their wives work up enough vaginal secrete to fuck them.
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I don’t completely disagree with a lot of this btw. But it does make me feel like, by your definition, incels are very common.
I don’t agree with the part about women trying to change men. What you see is what you get for the most part. Maybe women are delusional to believe we can be happy forever with one person, I don’t know. The initial happiness and excitement wears off and maybe that feeling is what we want to chase.
But a large portion of divorces are happening due to lower tolerance for abuse and cheating 🤷🏼♀️ I’ll always believe that.
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Women initiating divorce boils down to the convenience to do so often. It's typically financially related and lack of fulfillment. Although there are frugal women, the average relationship dynamic involves her spending more money than the man and constantly wanting to go on vacations. The man then cries that he needs to save. He caves into the wife, a rainy day happens and now we're full circle. She may leave because of money issues.
The burden of the relationship falls on the man whether the woman is right or wrong. At the end of the day it's still "you didn't do XYZ" and that's why the divorce is initiated.
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I really doubt that you get to speak out on whether women are being abused or not, it seems insane for any man to make such a statement. There’s no accurate way to quantify it when women themselves don’t always speak out when they are, but if we choose to believe women when they actually do, then it’s very common.
I don’t know of any couples who are divorced because the women want constant vacations 😂 In fact, Americans actually rarely do even go on vacation and travel with their allotted PTO! So I have no idea who’s ass you pulled that one from
That's an outrageous claim to speak as if the majority of women are abused in marriage.
According to the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, 1 in 7 women has been assaulted by their partner. Does that sound like the majority?
Do you even live in America?? The airports & planes are constantly packed. There hasn't been a dip in people taking vacations. Are people paying more.. sure, but they're still on vacation.
I can’t communicate with people who put words in my mouth to try to artificially bolster their arguments, just repeating back some BS I never said like a deaf parrot or what
Never said majority of women are abused - I said it’s common
Never said people are taking vacations less - I said vacations are not the main reason women are divorcing
Like WHAT
Do not put words in my mouth, it’s very annoying
You actually said "very common." Signifying that it's popular.
I can't communicate with people who use poor choice of words then get upset.
Lol look, now it’s very common > popular > majority
Can you see how far you’re reaching now. I’m sure your arms are sore.click to expand
Come on.. very common is synomous with popular.
If Honda Civics are very common cars are you going to argue they're not popular?
Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by UndinePosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by UndinePosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Undine
For men, marriage has clear HEALTH BENEFITS, since married men live in average LONGER than unmarried ones! This is not the case for women.
For women, marriage may have financial benefits when there are children to raise, but only with men that are stable and responsible (aka have skills that guarantee a good income and future promotions, save money without being stingy, spend little on clothes and gadgets for themself, and have no costly hobbies or addictions).
For both, living together saves costs (bills and possibly taxes). Like Saturn, marriage may bring stability to those with impulsive tendencies, keeping them in place when they would otherwise run for the hills at the first hurdle.
I call bullshit on that.
Somewhere someone conducted a (deeply flawed) study and just like the food pyramid it has been recycled again and again as facts.
How exactly does one go about conducting such a study in a reliable way? Do you even know yourself or you just like the way it sounds?
Say a woman lives single for 45 years, then marries in her later years and dies after 5 years of marriage? Which group does she belong to?
Knock yourself out: "
Analyses of large, longitudinal samples have shown that married persons tend to have lower mortality rates and longer life expectancy than unmarried persons (Shurtleff, 1955; Rendall et al., 2011; Manzoli et al., 2007; Lillard & Waite, 1995; Johnson et al., 2000; Kaplan & Kronick, 2006, Chiu, 2019; Espenshade, 1983.) A systematic review comprised of studies published between 1995 and 2005 indicated that, among the elderly, marriage was a significant and independent predictor of survival, a finding that did not differ between men and women (Manzoli et al., 2007). The overall relative risk of death for married versus non-married persons was 0.88 and 0.90 for men and women, respectively. With regard to life expectancy, many population-based longitudinal studies have shown longer life expectancy among married persons than unmarried persons, for both men and women (Chiu, 2019; Martikainen et al., 2014).'
Those studies analysed old people and took into consideration their marital status at that time (married, divorced, separated, widowed, never married). The woman in your example, married for the first time in her sixties, would have been counted as "married". IRL, such women would have been as rare as a diamond...
Where exactly does it say married men live longer than married women?
Also, my example is just to illustrate that there are too many impossible variables to take into account for it to be taken seriousely or to have any real scientific value.
For example, could it also be that wives berete their men more frequently about shit like having to go to get their prostates checked whereas if the same men were single they'd have died cuz they wouldn't have bothered to cuz men suck that way? lol
You'd need to read through some the those complex studies --published in serious, peer reviewed, scientific journals-- to draw your own conclusion. The reasons behind the differences...could only be speculated about. I believe that being nagged to see a doctor early on could be one of them, why not 🙂
I don't have to do dick. You came with the claims, you should have no problem breaking it down.
I am assuming you have actually read yourself "those complex studies published in serious, peer reviewed, scientific journals" before you drew your conclusions of the validity of said studies?
I mean you didn't just Google "married men live longer than women" and just grazed through a sciency-looking article before speaking on the topic?
Right?
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The conclusion was that married men live longer than unmarried ones.
If you want more, you'll have to read for yourself.
Hey ands when did you find out your wife was the one
Well I read this article on dxpnet that said married men live longer… 😅
Well I read this article on dxpnet that said married men live longer… 😅
Posted by poppyflowerPosted by LuckyLibra7Posted by nanochipPosted by LuckyLibra7Posted by nanochipPosted by LuckyLibra7I can’t communicate with people who put words in my mouth to try to artificially bolster their arguments, just repeating back some BS I never said like a deaf parrot or whatPosted by nanochipPosted by LuckyLibra7I really doubt that you get to speak out on whether women are being abused or not, it seems insane for any man to make such a statement. There’s no accurate way to quantify it when women themselves don’t always speak out when they are, but if we choose to believe women when they actually do, then it’s very common.Posted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by nanochipPosted by Enfant-Terrible-II
Lol wtf are you talking about, women these days can't take care of a home for shit.
I've seen more single men have tidier homes than single women.
Men cook elaborate meals, women can barely boil an egg or simply have "no interest in cooking".
Men take care of themselves physically even after entering a relationship, women fall apart on an average within 8 months.
Lol @ "emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere" . You are delusional. All men really need these days are their bros and a Saturday night hookup.
Yes, generalizations, but this has been my experience as a 21th century male with friends of both sexes. Maybe says more about my social circle than men/women, I dunno.
I don’t think men get emotional fulfillment from their bros or Saturday night hookups. Social and sexual fulfillment yes, they are not the same. Men get lonely just as much or more than women do. In society where men are expected to not talk much about their feelings, they often times only do that with a S.O, or a female platonic friend. The latter I think I’ve seen you say in the past was not possible? You got all over me for saying I had a platonic male friend once.
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You are projecting a woman's definition of "emotional fullfilment". Men are told they ultimately need a woman but aside from babymaking, all the single & mingle guys I know are perfectly happy with the emotional fullfilment from their male friends and sexually hooking up with women. Usually leaving your emotional fullfilment to women is a headache in itself.
Also married life does not guarantee a healthy sex life. Another point to strike off your list.
I don’t know, enfant. While I am sure some men are happy with the bachelor life style … these men eventually do settle down into marriage. I know so many lonely men who seem to think romantic companionship is the solution for them
To incels it is the solution because they go half their lives unfucked and unwanted so it becomes like the holy grail. "If someone would only fuck me that would solve all my problems!"
I'm willing to bet if you give the same man a lucky streak of 2 years with unlimited supply of attention from women they'd come to the conclusion - if they have a personality - that it's overrated and there are more important and interesting things in life than just the attention of the opposite sex.
As for your 2nd point.. absolutely, men settle down too! Men settle down harder than women. Women will announce you're the love of their life, then change their mind after a few years bc suddenly they are "unhappy" or "unfulfilled". Change is generally a female trait. Or flaw.
Men don't really have those episodes, have you noticed? If men settle down we do it exactly as advertised. We don't change our minds or hearts. Usually the wife will try to change the man she married and when he stays the man he's always been, she will announce she's "unhappy" lol.
Men however don't look for you to make us happy, that's a typically female delusion: "If only I find the right one, I will find happiness!" Failing to realize you'd have to be happy with yourself to begin with.
Granted there are those men - like you said - whose only aspiration in life is having a family and that's his only source of happiness and without it he's no one. I find them weird tbh and don't understand how their wives work up enough vaginal secrete to fuck them.
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I don’t completely disagree with a lot of this btw. But it does make me feel like, by your definition, incels are very common.
I don’t agree with the part about women trying to change men. What you see is what you get for the most part. Maybe women are delusional to believe we can be happy forever with one person, I don’t know. The initial happiness and excitement wears off and maybe that feeling is what we want to chase.
But a large portion of divorces are happening due to lower tolerance for abuse and cheating 🤷🏼♀️ I’ll always believe that.
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Abuse is not a top reason for divorce. it's not as common as you think it is.
Women initiating divorce boils down to the convenience to do so often. It's typically financially related and lack of fulfillment. Although there are frugal women, the average relationship dynamic involves her spending more money than the man and constantly wanting to go on vacations. The man then cries that he needs to save. He caves into the wife, a rainy day happens and now we're full circle. She may leave because of money issues.
The burden of the relationship falls on the man whether the woman is right or wrong. At the end of the day it's still "you didn't do XYZ" and that's why the divorce is initiated.
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I don’t know of any couples who are divorced because the women want constant vacations 😂 In fact, Americans actually rarely do even go on vacation and travel with their allotted PTO! So I have no idea who’s ass you pulled that one from
That's an outrageous claim to speak as if the majority of women are abused in marriage.
According to the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, 1 in 7 women has been assaulted by their partner. Does that sound like the majority?
Do you even live in America?? The airports & planes are constantly packed. There hasn't been a dip in people taking vacations. Are people paying more.. sure, but they're still on vacation.
Never said majority of women are abused - I said it’s common
Never said people are taking vacations less - I said vacations are not the main reason women are divorcing
Like WHAT
Do not put words in my mouth, it’s very annoying
You actually said "very common." Signifying that it's popular.
I can't communicate with people who use poor choice of words then get upset.
Lol look, now it’s very common > popular > majority
Can you see how far you’re reaching now. I’m sure your arms are sore.
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Come on.. very common is synomous with popular.
If Honda Civics are very common cars are you going to argue they're not popular?
Popular is not necessarily majority. Majority does mean it's popular. Honda Civics are very common, but they are not the majority in terms of vehicles that people drive. Very common just means multiple occurrences.click to expand
We're arguing semantics here..
Very common means frequent occurrences, not multiple.
Posted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by UndinePosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIThe conclusion was that married men live longer than unmarried ones.Posted by UndineI don't have to do dick. You came with the claims, you should have no problem breaking it down.Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIYou'd need to read through some the those complex studies --published in serious, peer reviewed, scientific journals-- to draw your own conclusion. The reasons behind the differences...could only be speculated about. I believe that being nagged to see a doctor early on could be one of them, why notPosted by UndinePosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Undine
For men, marriage has clear HEALTH BENEFITS, since married men live in average LONGER than unmarried ones! This is not the case for women.
For women, marriage may have financial benefits when there are children to raise, but only with men that are stable and responsible (aka have skills that guarantee a good income and future promotions, save money without being stingy, spend little on clothes and gadgets for themself, and have no costly hobbies or addictions).
For both, living together saves costs (bills and possibly taxes). Like Saturn, marriage may bring stability to those with impulsive tendencies, keeping them in place when they would otherwise run for the hills at the first hurdle.
I call bullshit on that.
Somewhere someone conducted a (deeply flawed) study and just like the food pyramid it has been recycled again and again as facts.
How exactly does one go about conducting such a study in a reliable way? Do you even know yourself or you just like the way it sounds?
Say a woman lives single for 45 years, then marries in her later years and dies after 5 years of marriage? Which group does she belong to?
Knock yourself out: "
Analyses of large, longitudinal samples have shown that married persons tend to have lower mortality rates and longer life expectancy than unmarried persons (Shurtleff, 1955; Rendall et al., 2011; Manzoli et al., 2007; Lillard & Waite, 1995; Johnson et al., 2000; Kaplan & Kronick, 2006, Chiu, 2019; Espenshade, 1983.) A systematic review comprised of studies published between 1995 and 2005 indicated that, among the elderly, marriage was a significant and independent predictor of survival, a finding that did not differ between men and women (Manzoli et al., 2007). The overall relative risk of death for married versus non-married persons was 0.88 and 0.90 for men and women, respectively. With regard to life expectancy, many population-based longitudinal studies have shown longer life expectancy among married persons than unmarried persons, for both men and women (Chiu, 2019; Martikainen et al., 2014).'
Those studies analysed old people and took into consideration their marital status at that time (married, divorced, separated, widowed, never married). The woman in your example, married for the first time in her sixties, would have been counted as "married". IRL, such women would have been as rare as a diamond...
Where exactly does it say married men live longer than married women?
Also, my example is just to illustrate that there are too many impossible variables to take into account for it to be taken seriousely or to have any real scientific value.
For example, could it also be that wives berete their men more frequently about shit like having to go to get their prostates checked whereas if the same men were single they'd have died cuz they wouldn't have bothered to cuz men suck that way? lol
I am assuming you have actually read yourself "those complex studies published in serious, peer reviewed, scientific journals" before you drew your conclusions of the validity of said studies?
I mean you didn't just Google "married men live longer than women" and just grazed through a sciency-looking article before speaking on the topic?
Right?
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If you want more, you'll have to read for yourself.
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So ? ??
Oh no I won’t marry a guy or have baby because there is a probability that when we will have 80 yo he die first !!! Oh no what a selfish man I prefer to die alone.
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Posted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by nanochipPosted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by nanochipPosted by dragonh0rsecvckWhat other reasons do you think? I haven’t encountered many men who genuinely enjoy platonic conversation. Maybe gems or aquas. As for being sexually driven, I have noticed a clear drop off in mid thirties (as opposed to 20s), but definitely still behaving like cavemen.Posted by nanochipIn all reality it would be a specific minority of men who purely want to keep women around for our hole and thus would be content with a sex doll. most normal people like dating and socializing with the opposite sex (or their preferred gender) for other reasons. I don't believe men are as sexually driven as they claim. maybe power driven, status driven...Posted by dragonh0rsecvckWasn’t the whole MGTOW gonna blow up the sex doll industry? Why are they still crying about women then? Just saw a new MGTOW thread pop up. When will they understand that we simply don’t care.Posted by Walk_on_by
It's over for men now that women can just buy a giant squid sex robot
the movie Possession had a monster like that
https://i.postimg.cc/DZfhQZWS/possession-d-jpg.webp
I can't imagine the market for male sex dolls is very thriving. but I kind of want this Angelina Jolie lookalike
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pretty much this is why I think men like pursuing, dating, and settling with real women:
-the ego boost it is to conquer a woman he hasn't hit yet
-the ego boost if he lands someone popular
-many of them need to exert power and control over someone who will take it, and this goes hand in hand with a sexual relationship between humans with a will to break
-many of them just get crushes and butterflies over women
-I definitely think the universal signs appreciate platonic relationships with women at the least. lots of men do. maybe it depends on their moon & hard aspects to it
-lots of em want kids
-they feel societal pressure to be married or in a LTR
-many are hypergamous
-many crave affection
I think those who see women as useful for only their holes have given up on a normal social life and fitting in and likely suffer mentally due to having to be part of society. People with porn addiction, video game addiction, maybe they feel inadequate in their masculinity due to a father they couldn't impress so they can't risk rejection, or they have a gross philia and can't get hard for normal women, like those who buy child sex dolls. people say sex is everything, but think about the common causes of breakups: I wouldn't call cheating a sexual basis, more of a power and ego thing, or a personality incompatibility/fighting with the partner leading to him cheating instead of dumping her first. you hear about women never putting out after marriage, but I believe there are tons of compatible libidos out there for every man and woman (unless he's really an outlier and as such prefers a doll).
I see so many couples functioning off passion arisen from the fight for control, and its why I don't mind being single but its also why I don't buy that men are thinking purely about sexual opportunity, convenience and quality. so many women are motivated to please men, or have matching libidos. but men will put a woman who is less sexually convenient or can offer lower quality sex on a pedestal if she's popular and unpresst
I’ve always correlated the male ego and need for control/domination to sex. Those concepts go hand in hand for me.
What is it if not sexual?
If it’s a not constant push and pull, what satisfies them? Ultimate control and domination would be boring surely.
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You make an interesting point because sexual attraction probably is behind men’s need to dominate an individual woman, now that I’m thinking of some bosses, coworkers and other controlling male randoms I’ve encountered. I think they can hold onto this sexual obsession without needing to physically act on it because it maintains interest. Sex is a bitch for men and women, it’s a workout and not everyone can get off easily outside of masturbation. Even in a relationship I think the trauma bond resulting from each party’s pseudo-rejection of the other can culminate in kissing and cuddling and the man would be as happy as sex would’ve made him if not happier, depending on the man. It’s so psychological but the men I know often seem to need this dynamic unless they intentionally married someone who would never challenge them. Like the Pisces I mentioned, he has ED and has sex a handful of times a year (I believe him about it) but still orchestrates these Scorpionic games with certain of us on his scope of Machiavellian torture. This mental/emotional kink men need to feel stimulated in a relationship involves dopamine release when the satisfaction that’s been delayed is finally indulged in but since I don’t think sex needs to be involved physically I didn’t categorize it with sex- but I wouldn’t doubt these men fantasize about raping the women who give them these hate-boners they need.
I’m probably too tuned into Scorpionic relationship dynamics and could be misinterpreting some. Wouldn’t be surprised. I think tons of men never get bored of push-and-pull hence why they stay in your dms after you’ve moved on. I get over it once I’m either offended enough by a certain thing he did or once I’m not attracted to him anymore
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Yea, I have experienced something like this before. I remember as an awkward, shy teenager, I was in english class with this boy who made my life fucking hell. He made fun of the way I talked, my clothing, my braces, my glasses, every opportunity he got to drag me down and make me miserable and uncomfortable, he took. I never even spoke to him, just was unlucky enough to be assigned seating at this table with him. I loathed him and dreaded the class every single week. I hated myself and felt bad inside my own skin and bones in his presence in a way I haven't before, even as a pubescent teen. This was not light bullying, it was the horrific kind of shit that kids kill themselves over. I found out at the end of the year that he had a crush on me, and I was just shocked and revolted. These kind of men scare me, and they are not uncommon. He got married eventually and I knew his wife, people told us that we looked alike back in jr high when this happened lol. I wonder what their relationship is like, because this man has a need to punish and abuse. He would get like this warped satisfaction in his eyes and his lips would twist up approvingly if he was able to bring me to tears. Like truly a real sadistic and evil fuck. Thinking back now, this was a very intimate game for him that he really enjoyed playing with me against my will.
I think men like to marry the women who do not challenge them. Its easier and much more pleasant that way for them. I saw a post somewhere the other day, it said "Men grooming wives to be modest and predictable so their home base is secured and their life is well managed while they cheat with the women they really desire is a tale as old as time."
An aqua and I had a very intense push/pull/punish dynamic. We broke it off and here he was messaging me a year later saying that he will never give up on us, and I am rolling my eyes thinking "what has changed that this is ever going to work"
These energies while incredibly toxic are sexy as hell, but I'm tired and I'm old. I can't keep doing that shit. It takes a lot out of me and the emotional roller coaster is too devastating. Ultimately being 34 now, I want to love and be loved. I say I want peace and companionship. But alas, I am a cunt and I am difficult. It is what it is. Lmao.
Posted by EggrollPosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by EggrollPosted by LuckyLibra7Because a man’s masculinity is tied to servitude. Women who out earn their husbands still have to perform more domestic labor in the home because a man feels threatened when things are equal. As a woman, you have to pretend that you are serving a man and he is the head of the household even when he’s not lol. Even when you make more money you have to find some way place yourself beneath him…or he will cheat. I’m driving or I would link my sources.Posted by EggrollMen caring about domestic labor and raising children.Posted by LuckyLibra7Which part is a cultural issue? And what culture?Posted by EggrollPosted by LuckyLibra7
Alimony is reserved for significant differences in pay or a housewife who takes care of the children. It is an absolutely ridiculous concept for a couple in the same tax bracket.
If a divorce is initiated, take what's yours and leave. In past cultures, the man would have to put up X amount of money in case of a divorce for the woman which is fair. But it's a set amount and not this continuous check that keeps coming to fulfill a failed obligation of marriage..
"Permanant" alimony is an even more ridiculous concept and you're crying that the system was created for men. Alimony was created to benefit women and unfortunately there will be outliers who escape paying.. sorry but they're not the majority.
I was waiting for this argument. This is why I would never encourage a woman to learn to cook or any domestic skills to attract a man. Domestic labor and child rearing is not valued by men. They want you to sacrifice building your career handling the domestic labor and then tel you to leave empty handed.
Women go to school and get as much higher education as you need to out earn your husband so that he can sacrifice moving up in his career. That way if he wants to leave the marriage he’ll be 10 years behind in career building experience. Make him sacrifice his financial security and sabotage his earning potential.
That's a cultural issue.
Historically speaking, women having careers is a modern concept. Sure, there were outliers and most had gigs such as weaving or making trinkets such as things on Etsy. But collectively this hasn't happened before. White Collar jobs are a modern invention too, which allowed women to elevate.
The boy is cemented as the breadwinner from birth by their mother AND father. So it's not far-featched that there's tension in this area when seeking a partner
Now we have two people working 40+ hours a week and daycares raise the children. Careers and families don't mesh no matter what dreams you're sold or just so happen to meet an indvidual that has a decent job.
men & women have been at odds since the dawn of time.. can't make everyone happy and relationships will fail.
But there's been a cultural shift in Western culture the past 40 years or so and there has been a significant drop in the value, respect and dedication for relationships.
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Women in marriages as the sole earner are 5 times more likely to be cheated on. You have to bust your ass at work and make sure you come home and feed his ego with domestic slavery so he doesn’t go fuck Carla at work to feel like a man again.
Men don’t want a partnership. A woman will always have to shrink herself to keep the peace. So of course marriage is not going to work out when it requires one person to make sure they stay smaller than the other at all times.
have u experienced that or ?
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Which part?
I’ve experienced my spouse treating me very different when I started to earn more money than he did. Very threatened. More aggressive like he needed to exert his dominance over me. All of a sudden we weren’t having enough sex or I wasn’t doing as much as him around the house. Just overall more critical of me. This was years and years into the relationship and nothing had changed except my salary.
It was really crazy to experience. I was the one with the higher sex drive. I would literally beg to have more sex for years (!!) but as soon as I made more money than him he twisted things like he was deprived. He said something disgusting like being with me is like owning a Ferrari and never getting to drive it so he wanted to leave me for a “piece of shit car that he could beat the crap out of”. So I let him go find a POS 🤷♀️click to expand
I am having a hard time reconciling myself to this new reality. Do you think there are men out there who genuinely don't mind when a woman makes more than them, or will it always be at least a secret blow to the ego and a little slice of resentment for them to tuck away for later? I have met and heard a lot of men claim to be okay with it, but how true is that? And what kind of man is going to be honest and say it stings their fragile little ego, that only makes it worse? My pisces guy actually admitted that it bothers him a bit and now I am wondering if that is a red flag bigger than I even realized.
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I Might delete again
To go get married?
actually fuck this shit, this horrible thread make me realize that i dont want to live in fear i propose tommorrowclick to expand
That’s the spirit! Get your first one under your belt! 😅😂🤣
Posted by EggrollPosted by LuckyLibra7Posted by EggrollPosted by LuckyLibra7Posted by EggrollThat's a cultural issue.Posted by LuckyLibra7
Alimony is reserved for significant differences in pay or a housewife who takes care of the children. It is an absolutely ridiculous concept for a couple in the same tax bracket.
If a divorce is initiated, take what's yours and leave. In past cultures, the man would have to put up X amount of money in case of a divorce for the woman which is fair. But it's a set amount and not this continuous check that keeps coming to fulfill a failed obligation of marriage..
"Permanant" alimony is an even more ridiculous concept and you're crying that the system was created for men. Alimony was created to benefit women and unfortunately there will be outliers who escape paying.. sorry but they're not the majority.
I was waiting for this argument. This is why I would never encourage a woman to learn to cook or any domestic skills to attract a man. Domestic labor and child rearing is not valued by men. They want you to sacrifice building your career handling the domestic labor and then tel you to leave empty handed.
Women go to school and get as much higher education as you need to out earn your husband so that he can sacrifice moving up in his career. That way if he wants to leave the marriage he’ll be 10 years behind in career building experience. Make him sacrifice his financial security and sabotage his earning potential.
Historically speaking, women having careers is a modern concept. Sure, there were outliers and most had gigs such as weaving or making trinkets such as things on Etsy. But collectively this hasn't happened before. White Collar jobs are a modern invention too, which allowed women to elevate.
The boy is cemented as the breadwinner from birth by their mother AND father. So it's not far-featched that there's tension in this area when seeking a partner
Now we have two people working 40+ hours a week and daycares raise the children. Careers and families don't mesh no matter what dreams you're sold or just so happen to meet an indvidual that has a decent job.
Which part is a cultural issue? And what culture?
Men caring about domestic labor and raising children.
men & women have been at odds since the dawn of time.. can't make everyone happy and relationships will fail.
But there's been a cultural shift in Western culture the past 40 years or so and there has been a significant drop in the value, respect and dedication for relationships.
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Because a man’s masculinity is tied to servitude. Women who out earn their husbands still have to perform more domestic labor in the home because a man feels threatened when things are equal. As a woman, you have to pretend that you are serving a man and he is the head of the household even when he’s not lol. Even when you make more money you have to find some way place yourself beneath him…or he will cheat. I’m driving or I would link my sources.
Women in marriages as the sole earner are 5 times more likely to be cheated on. You have to bust your ass at work and make sure you come home and feed his ego with domestic slavery so he doesn’t go fuck Carla at work to feel like a man again.
Men don’t want a partnership. A woman will always have to shrink herself to keep the peace. So of course marriage is not going to work out when it requires one person to make sure they stay smaller than the other at all times.click to expand
Become a lesbian then if men are that insufferable to you.
Because this reads as if “yeah, you’re a man so you’ll cheat.”
Posted by EggrollPosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by EggrollPosted by LuckyLibra7Because a man’s masculinity is tied to servitude. Women who out earn their husbands still have to perform more domestic labor in the home because a man feels threatened when things are equal. As a woman, you have to pretend that you are serving a man and he is the head of the household even when he’s not lol. Even when you make more money you have to find some way place yourself beneath him…or he will cheat. I’m driving or I would link my sources.Posted by EggrollMen caring about domestic labor and raising children.Posted by LuckyLibra7Which part is a cultural issue? And what culture?Posted by EggrollPosted by LuckyLibra7
Alimony is reserved for significant differences in pay or a housewife who takes care of the children. It is an absolutely ridiculous concept for a couple in the same tax bracket.
If a divorce is initiated, take what's yours and leave. In past cultures, the man would have to put up X amount of money in case of a divorce for the woman which is fair. But it's a set amount and not this continuous check that keeps coming to fulfill a failed obligation of marriage..
"Permanant" alimony is an even more ridiculous concept and you're crying that the system was created for men. Alimony was created to benefit women and unfortunately there will be outliers who escape paying.. sorry but they're not the majority.
I was waiting for this argument. This is why I would never encourage a woman to learn to cook or any domestic skills to attract a man. Domestic labor and child rearing is not valued by men. They want you to sacrifice building your career handling the domestic labor and then tel you to leave empty handed.
Women go to school and get as much higher education as you need to out earn your husband so that he can sacrifice moving up in his career. That way if he wants to leave the marriage he’ll be 10 years behind in career building experience. Make him sacrifice his financial security and sabotage his earning potential.
That's a cultural issue.
Historically speaking, women having careers is a modern concept. Sure, there were outliers and most had gigs such as weaving or making trinkets such as things on Etsy. But collectively this hasn't happened before. White Collar jobs are a modern invention too, which allowed women to elevate.
The boy is cemented as the breadwinner from birth by their mother AND father. So it's not far-featched that there's tension in this area when seeking a partner
Now we have two people working 40+ hours a week and daycares raise the children. Careers and families don't mesh no matter what dreams you're sold or just so happen to meet an indvidual that has a decent job.
men & women have been at odds since the dawn of time.. can't make everyone happy and relationships will fail.
But there's been a cultural shift in Western culture the past 40 years or so and there has been a significant drop in the value, respect and dedication for relationships.
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Women in marriages as the sole earner are 5 times more likely to be cheated on. You have to bust your ass at work and make sure you come home and feed his ego with domestic slavery so he doesn’t go fuck Carla at work to feel like a man again.
Men don’t want a partnership. A woman will always have to shrink herself to keep the peace. So of course marriage is not going to work out when it requires one person to make sure they stay smaller than the other at all times.
have u experienced that or ?
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Which part?
I’ve experienced my spouse treating me very different when I started to earn more money than he did. Very threatened. More aggressive like he needed to exert his dominance over me. All of a sudden we weren’t having enough sex or I wasn’t doing as much as him around the house. Just overall more critical of me. This was years and years into the relationship and nothing had changed except my salary.
It was really crazy to experience. I was the one with the higher sex drive. I would literally beg to have more sex for years (!!) but as soon as I made more money than him he twisted things like he was deprived. He said something disgusting like being with me is like owning a Ferrari and never getting to drive it so he wanted to leave me for a “piece of shit car that he could beat the crap out of”. So I let him go find a POS 🤷♀️click to expand
Wow
Small man, BIG ego
Very low self esteem
Why does it matter who earns the cash?
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I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
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Alimony is reserved for significant differences in pay or a housewife who takes care of the children. It is an absolutely ridiculous concept for a couple in the same tax bracket.
If a divorce is initiated, take what's yours and leave. In past cultures, the man would have to put up X amount of money in case of a divorce for the woman which is fair. But it's a set amount and not this continuous check that keeps coming to fulfill a failed obligation of marriage..
"Permanant" alimony is an even more ridiculous concept and you're crying that the system was created for men. Alimony was created to benefit women and unfortunately there will be outliers who escape paying.. sorry but they're not the majority.
I was waiting for this argument. This is why I would never encourage a woman to learn to cook or any domestic skills to attract a man. Domestic labor and child rearing is not valued by men. They want you to sacrifice building your career handling the domestic labor and then tel you to leave empty handed.
Women go to school and get as much higher education as you need to out earn your husband so that he can sacrifice moving up in his career. That way if he wants to leave the marriage he’ll be 10 years behind in career building experience. Make him sacrifice his financial security and sabotage his earning potential.click to expand
Why do you live in this insane world where its all black and white like it's a psychological warfare game ?
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He’s husband material for another man 😅
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Men dress better when they are with other men. They stay in shape AND dress nice, what do women get?
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My dad is 60 and looks like that, has done since like mid 40s. He is extremely fit. Does all the outdoors activity's I do with me and doesn't really show much difference fitness than me and I'm 30, kinda toned visible abs. He's definitely fitter than every woman on dxp, and guess what he sits on the couch and watches TV sometimes lol. You just look shit when you get above 40 lol, that's reality. For guys to look good at that age they really need to take TRT steroids or diet like an endurance athlete. Any old celebs you see on tv who look great at that age are on roids. There's nothing more cringe than someone blaming a thing like aging for someone looking bad, blaming someone balding is trash too. My mother was never in great shape but hell she pushed out two kids in her 30s and then worked a very hard stressful job I have no criticism for her.
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I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
sometimes they take the low-IQ pick-me wife at the expense of their kids especially their daughters who she might be jealous of and malicious toward. obv "jealous evil stepmom" is a trope but its happening out there, I've even been guilty of being jealous of my ex's gifted tiny-waist wide hipped always-happy 18 year old daughter (and I'm a pick-me)
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Do you correlate low IQ with being less of a challenge?
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Benefits for men:
Companionship
Family
Financial gains
Career focus
Healthier life style
Domestic labor taken care of
Regular sex
Less risk taking
Emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere
Benefits for women:
Companionship
Family
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The benefits for men quickly become the cons for women.
Then there is the inevitable divorce settlement.
I never met a man who actually had to pay alimony. My dad's been married 7 times across several states and never had to pay it, not even was it ever discussed. I grew up in the south where people get married like 5 times throughout their life and never saw it. I don't think this is very common. I could be wrong, but I think maybe this is mostly a risk for extremely wealthy men. Most men do not make that much money these days, they need their S.O to work out of economic necessity.
Many men want homemakers. Okay fine, I get it. Its nice to have someone doing all the boring tasks at home for you.... but homemakers are not independent by definition, and will most often require SPOUSAL support after divorce (we are still looking at an overwhelming 40-50% chance). That dependence and those domestic skills that were so appealing to men at first? Well, now they realize that it was all they had to offer. They become that object of resentment for men that we so often hear about. The vilified, evil hag of the ex wife who dedicated her life to serving up hamburger helper at 7pm every night, and took the children to soccer practices every Wednesday. Women will often be stay at home moms for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, sacrificing their independence and often their identity, and for what? To be tossed out after a divorce. No experience. No skills. No money. Nothing. And yet, somehow they have to figure out how to support their children in a safe and healthy environment, while returning to the work force for the first time in a decade or first time ever, making next to no money. It is an impossible task that they make happen somehow, despite all of the cards stacked against them. You may be thinking "Oh no there's child support for that!" Not always. There are many loopholes that allow men to avoid paying it and best believe they utilize them every way they can. One of my best friends chose to have 2 kids with a man who now evades child support with a series of under-the-table jobs spanning a decade at this point. This is not uncommon.
Men love to point out: "Women initiate 80-90% of divorce!" - Why do you think women are initiating it? I think its because we are at the height of mental and emotional health/awareness that there is just less tolerance for abuse/cheating/unhappiness in general. If that is not acceptable, then the list above would illustrate clearly that marriage benefits men far more than women. Even bad marriages.... So why would men want a divorce?!
I am laughing at the idea that marriage would have any kind of financial benefit to me and so many other women. A lot of women these days are working high paid jobs and it is unlikely their partner will make more money than them. So I am curious, what exactly is the benefit of marriage, to a woman? What am I missing here? Is it just a human experience we want to have, which is fleeting? Is it the ideation of a family, the promise of "forever", which doesn't particularly appeal to me given the current state of the world?
Looking at the list above, it looks so obvious, doesn't it? It even seems ironic that men would throw around the "unmarried cat-hoarding spinster" barbs. Marriage in 2023 is for you, men. Its yours. Embrace your inner golem and get ready to be chasing that ring down. Find a wife and treat her well. You have so much to gain from it.
Benifits are the same. Somethings are just in different ways. A lot goes into living life.
Because of the release of stereotypes, who handles what is up to the individuals.
The way you wrote that list. It reflects what you offer and like to do right?
Or just your history?
Because alimony is very very real and valid.
The homemaker gives up or reduced their earning power to handle the couples private life/ home matters. Children are a job and a serious one.
Marriage has always been meant to be partnership in life.
It is absolutely exhausting to do everything one your own.
P.S. children require a lot of care. You are akso training another human to navigate themselves and in the world. It's a serious responsibility in a good way. Best with more then one person or resources so a person can put enough energy into to there development 🙂
Also...There are different kinds of dynamics and relationship style s. Children don't have to be in the cards.
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I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
sometimes they take the low-IQ pick-me wife at the expense of their kids especially their daughters who she might be jealous of and malicious toward. obv "jealous evil stepmom" is a trope but its happening out there, I've even been guilty of being jealous of my ex's gifted tiny-waist wide hipped always-happy 18 year old daughter (and I'm a pick-me)
I'm gonna be hesitant to date dads again that's for sure
Do you correlate low IQ with being less of a challenge?
as it pertains to my post about men I know who settle with desperate women who will accept any treatment and be eager to please (instead of women they respect), all these women are demonstrably low IQ. some (probably most) didn't even graduate high school. the two I'm specifically thinking of are also unemployed housewives and get cheated on
with higher IQ comes more independence, which could be seen as a challenge. but obviously men shouldn't accept treatment a woman wouldn't as far as hostility his way.click to expand
You're still approaching this from the same angle that I think is hilarious. That everything needs to be a fight and a challenge. My comment has nothing to do with men settling for submissive women its about why the hell do women think men would like a challenge at home and shame men for for not wanting that. Do women want a challenge from their man? No not at all apparently, then you berate men for not wanting a challenge. Why do you want a fight at home? Why do you not want team work and harmony. Sounds really dumb to me.
Anyway I have an IQ of 120 and failed at school lol, plus you have people with Autism who have even higher IQs and a woman with Autism might be very submissive and easy to control and take advantage of them. High Iq's often mean really bad social skills.
Posted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by dragonh0rsecvckPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by dragonh0rsecvckDo you correlate low IQ with being less of a challenge?Posted by Walk_on_by
I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
sometimes they take the low-IQ pick-me wife at the expense of their kids especially their daughters who she might be jealous of and malicious toward. obv "jealous evil stepmom" is a trope but its happening out there, I've even been guilty of being jealous of my ex's gifted tiny-waist wide hipped always-happy 18 year old daughter (and I'm a pick-me)
I'm gonna be hesitant to date dads again that's for sure
as it pertains to my post about men I know who settle with desperate women who will accept any treatment and be eager to please (instead of women they respect), all these women are demonstrably low IQ. some (probably most) didn't even graduate high school. the two I'm specifically thinking of are also unemployed housewives and get cheated on
with higher IQ comes more independence, which could be seen as a challenge. but obviously men shouldn't accept treatment a woman wouldn't as far as hostility his way.
You're still approaching this from the same angle that I think is hilarious. That everything needs to be a fight and a challenge. My comment has nothing to do with men settling for submissive women its about why the hell do women think men would like a challenge at home and shame men for for not wanting that. Do women want a challenge from their man? No not at all apparently, then you berate men for not wanting a challenge. Why do you want a fight at home? Why do you not want team work and harmony. Sounds really dumb to me.
Anyway I have an IQ of 120 and failed at school lol, plus you have people with Autism who have even higher IQs and a woman with Autism might be very submissive and easy to control and take advantage of them. High Iq's often mean really bad social skills.
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itll be ok I like men, sorry I quoted you in the first place. I like you alsoclick to expand
Lol it will be okay. Idk why everyone thinks its not okay. We are being psyop'd into hating each other.
Posted by EggrollPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by EggrollPosted by LuckyLibra7I was waiting for this argument. This is why I would never encourage a woman to learn to cook or any domestic skills to attract a man. Domestic labor and child rearing is not valued by men. They want you to sacrifice building your career handling the domestic labor and then tel you to leave empty handed.
Alimony is reserved for significant differences in pay or a housewife who takes care of the children. It is an absolutely ridiculous concept for a couple in the same tax bracket.
If a divorce is initiated, take what's yours and leave. In past cultures, the man would have to put up X amount of money in case of a divorce for the woman which is fair. But it's a set amount and not this continuous check that keeps coming to fulfill a failed obligation of marriage..
"Permanant" alimony is an even more ridiculous concept and you're crying that the system was created for men. Alimony was created to benefit women and unfortunately there will be outliers who escape paying.. sorry but they're not the majority.
Women go to school and get as much higher education as you need to out earn your husband so that he can sacrifice moving up in his career. That way if he wants to leave the marriage he’ll be 10 years behind in career building experience. Make him sacrifice his financial security and sabotage his earning potential.
Why do you live in this insane world where its all black and white like it's a psychological warfare game ?
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Matching the tone of the men who commented but only my comments bother you?click to expand
Where did anyone say make women quit their job and ruin their lives. This is all in your head. Same with the other comment, you're litterally the one who sees it as a competition.
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I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
I think it’s hilarious (concerning) that’s all you took from that exchange. You ignored the abuse-domination dynamic topic we were discussing completely, and took the word “challenge” grossly out of context.
I think you know this too. Any man can get a submissive housewife who wants to be kept, they are everywhere. Why haven’t you if that’s so appealing?
Posted by TXCowboyPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by EggrollPosted by LuckyLibra7
Alimony is reserved for significant differences in pay or a housewife who takes care of the children. It is an absolutely ridiculous concept for a couple in the same tax bracket.
If a divorce is initiated, take what's yours and leave. In past cultures, the man would have to put up X amount of money in case of a divorce for the woman which is fair. But it's a set amount and not this continuous check that keeps coming to fulfill a failed obligation of marriage..
"Permanant" alimony is an even more ridiculous concept and you're crying that the system was created for men. Alimony was created to benefit women and unfortunately there will be outliers who escape paying.. sorry but they're not the majority.
I was waiting for this argument. This is why I would never encourage a woman to learn to cook or any domestic skills to attract a man. Domestic labor and child rearing is not valued by men. They want you to sacrifice building your career handling the domestic labor and then tel you to leave empty handed.
Women go to school and get as much higher education as you need to out earn your husband so that he can sacrifice moving up in his career. That way if he wants to leave the marriage he’ll be 10 years behind in career building experience. Make him sacrifice his financial security and sabotage his earning potential.
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Why do you live in this insane world where its all black and white like it's a psychological warfare game ?
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What if she wasn’t even a Gemini? Would you maybe feel a little stupid coming to biased conclusions? 🤏🏼
Posted by nanochipPosted by Walk_on_by
I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
I think it’s hilarious (concerning) that’s all you took from that exchange. You ignored the abuse-domination dynamic topic we were discussing completely, and took the word “challenge” grossly out of context.
I think you know this too. Any man can get a submissive housewife who wants to be kept, they are everywhere. Why haven’t you if that’s so appealing?click to expand
Where’s the fun in that not being challenged?
@dragonh0rsecvck I think the post got too long to quote anymore lol. I wanted to reply to the part about sacrificing passion for stability. I dated a lot in my midtwenties, I was going on dates with nice enough men, but realizing that something was missing and it was the passion aspect. I came to the conclusion that you can have this exciting, sexy, turbulent, CHALLENGING (throwing that in there for Taniwha), passionate relationship that usually doesn’t seem to last beyond a few years because it becomes too intense and too tiring. Both of the people can’t seem to handle the energy or know how to fix the issues that keep recurring. And the other option I never tried…. Date the nice, stable dude. Throughout the years, I’ve found these guys kind of unfuckable and boring. Maybe they agree with everything you say or do, so there’s nothing to discuss or exchange ideas and opinions about. Something is just always missing.
The older I get, the second guy seems more appealing in theory because in a way Taniwha was right, challenge gets tiring. That passionate relationship is exhausting and it’s painful. I haven’t ever been able to bring myself to follow through with it because I like the excitement, the challenge, the passion and all the feelings that come with it. Something about the nice, stable dude makes me feel comfort on some level though, like he will be there for me when I give up on finding what I’m looking for (or maybe realizing it doesn’t exist) 🤣 There’s also risk with the nice stable dude potentially because you might end up with a Jonas Hill type 🥸
But the most successful relationships I know are the passionless stable ones though, where they never argue and just get along 99% of the time. I honestly don’t think you can have both in one person. Because what you like about the first is exactly what the second is missing, which happens to be what makes the relationship last in the first place. I didn’t word this exactly how I wanted to because it’s 8am and I don’t sleep much, but hopefully got my thoughts across.
The older I get, the second guy seems more appealing in theory because in a way Taniwha was right, challenge gets tiring. That passionate relationship is exhausting and it’s painful. I haven’t ever been able to bring myself to follow through with it because I like the excitement, the challenge, the passion and all the feelings that come with it. Something about the nice, stable dude makes me feel comfort on some level though, like he will be there for me when I give up on finding what I’m looking for (or maybe realizing it doesn’t exist) 🤣 There’s also risk with the nice stable dude potentially because you might end up with a Jonas Hill type 🥸
But the most successful relationships I know are the passionless stable ones though, where they never argue and just get along 99% of the time. I honestly don’t think you can have both in one person. Because what you like about the first is exactly what the second is missing, which happens to be what makes the relationship last in the first place. I didn’t word this exactly how I wanted to because it’s 8am and I don’t sleep much, but hopefully got my thoughts across.
Posted by EggrollPosted by nanochipPosted by TXCowboyWhat if she wasn’t even a Gemini? Would you maybe feel a little stupid coming to biased conclusions? 🤏🏼Posted by Walk_on_byPosted by EggrollPosted by LuckyLibra7
Alimony is reserved for significant differences in pay or a housewife who takes care of the children. It is an absolutely ridiculous concept for a couple in the same tax bracket.
If a divorce is initiated, take what's yours and leave. In past cultures, the man would have to put up X amount of money in case of a divorce for the woman which is fair. But it's a set amount and not this continuous check that keeps coming to fulfill a failed obligation of marriage..
"Permanant" alimony is an even more ridiculous concept and you're crying that the system was created for men. Alimony was created to benefit women and unfortunately there will be outliers who escape paying.. sorry but they're not the majority.
I was waiting for this argument. This is why I would never encourage a woman to learn to cook or any domestic skills to attract a man. Domestic labor and child rearing is not valued by men. They want you to sacrifice building your career handling the domestic labor and then tel you to leave empty handed.
Women go to school and get as much higher education as you need to out earn your husband so that he can sacrifice moving up in his career. That way if he wants to leave the marriage he’ll be 10 years behind in career building experience. Make him sacrifice his financial security and sabotage his earning potential.
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Why do you live in this insane world where its all black and white like it's a psychological warfare game ?
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I’m not a Gemini lol.click to expand
I was pretty sure lol. Warangel does not like gemini women as you can see, so the fact that he attempted to diminish everything you said on a baseless, biased conclusion when you aren’t even a gemini was pretty funny (yet wildly predictable) and had to be called out 🤷🏼♀️
Posted by nanochipPosted by Walk_on_by
I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
I think it’s hilarious (concerning) that’s all you took from that exchange. You ignored the abuse-domination dynamic topic we were discussing completely, and took the word “challenge” grossly out of context.
I think you know this too. Any man can get a submissive housewife who wants to be kept, they are everywhere. Why haven’t you if that’s so appealing?click to expand
Because it always seems like women interoperate men not wanting to be challanged as men wanting women to be submissive. Honestly if that's what it takes to not be challenged by their partner who is supposed to be the opposite of challenging, supportive. Then that's gonna be what it takes, men are going to want submissive women.
Posted by EggrollPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by EggrollPosted by Walk_on_byMatching the tone of the men who commented but only my comments bother you?Posted by EggrollPosted by LuckyLibra7
Alimony is reserved for significant differences in pay or a housewife who takes care of the children. It is an absolutely ridiculous concept for a couple in the same tax bracket.
If a divorce is initiated, take what's yours and leave. In past cultures, the man would have to put up X amount of money in case of a divorce for the woman which is fair. But it's a set amount and not this continuous check that keeps coming to fulfill a failed obligation of marriage..
"Permanant" alimony is an even more ridiculous concept and you're crying that the system was created for men. Alimony was created to benefit women and unfortunately there will be outliers who escape paying.. sorry but they're not the majority.
I was waiting for this argument. This is why I would never encourage a woman to learn to cook or any domestic skills to attract a man. Domestic labor and child rearing is not valued by men. They want you to sacrifice building your career handling the domestic labor and then tel you to leave empty handed.
Women go to school and get as much higher education as you need to out earn your husband so that he can sacrifice moving up in his career. That way if he wants to leave the marriage he’ll be 10 years behind in career building experience. Make him sacrifice his financial security and sabotage his earning potential.
Why do you live in this insane world where its all black and white like it's a psychological warfare game ?
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Where did anyone say make women quit their job and ruin their lives. This is all in your head. Same with the other comment, you're litterally the one who sees it as a competition.
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That’s what you read. That’s not what I said.
You’re more intelligent than most in this topic and I would have a more intelligent conversation but with others, not so much.
For example the libra mentioning alimony and how it used to be one lump sum after a divorce. It still can be one lump sum. It’s the choice of the person paying alimony. If you don’t have 50 thousand dollars laying around, I guess you’re going to be paying monthly?
As far as permanent alimony that is usually awarded when one spouse is disabled. Permanent alimony is extremely rare.
The fact that he even brought this up as a talking point annoys me. The only men who bring up child support and alimony are men who don’t value a woman’s role in a marriage or household, because a lot of women do sacrifice their financial security when raising children.
I work with all men. All of them are married and one is a single father. The married men can work as much as they want 99% of the time. Their wives are handling everything at home. The single father has to leave early every Friday. He has to take off more for doctor appointments. Not only is he not making as much money as everyone else, it’s unlikely he’s going to be asked to handle special projects because of his limited availability. That’s the reality for a lot of women.
There are good men. I have a friend going through a divorce now and I mentioned something suggesting how to lessen his financial obligation through divorce and he snapped back that she was raising his child and she deserves it.
Unrelated but I know men who acknowledge the negative affects porn can have on a relationship. Point being, I know amazing men.
I don’t think in black and white. It’s not psychological warfare. I think both sexes can be toxic. I wouldn’t advise a woman or anyone to force their partner to sacrifice their financial security. If there is a stay at home parent, I would advise them to have the working parent contribute to a retirement account in their name at the very least.
Now, can you lower your expectations of conversations that are had here? Lol. Nothing I’m saying is going to change any man’s mind here simply because they don’t value women. Just let me scream into the void.click to expand
Far out that's a lot to read can't you just say something short and reactionary and I can react to it without thinking about it?
Posted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by EggrollPosted by Walk_on_byThat’s what you read. That’s not what I said.Posted by EggrollWhere did anyone say make women quit their job and ruin their lives. This is all in your head. Same with the other comment, you're litterally the one who sees it as a competition.Posted by Walk_on_byPosted by EggrollPosted by LuckyLibra7
Alimony is reserved for significant differences in pay or a housewife who takes care of the children. It is an absolutely ridiculous concept for a couple in the same tax bracket.
If a divorce is initiated, take what's yours and leave. In past cultures, the man would have to put up X amount of money in case of a divorce for the woman which is fair. But it's a set amount and not this continuous check that keeps coming to fulfill a failed obligation of marriage..
"Permanant" alimony is an even more ridiculous concept and you're crying that the system was created for men. Alimony was created to benefit women and unfortunately there will be outliers who escape paying.. sorry but they're not the majority.
I was waiting for this argument. This is why I would never encourage a woman to learn to cook or any domestic skills to attract a man. Domestic labor and child rearing is not valued by men. They want you to sacrifice building your career handling the domestic labor and then tel you to leave empty handed.
Women go to school and get as much higher education as you need to out earn your husband so that he can sacrifice moving up in his career. That way if he wants to leave the marriage he’ll be 10 years behind in career building experience. Make him sacrifice his financial security and sabotage his earning potential.
Why do you live in this insane world where its all black and white like it's a psychological warfare game ?
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Matching the tone of the men who commented but only my comments bother you?
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You’re more intelligent than most in this topic and I would have a more intelligent conversation but with others, not so much.
For example the libra mentioning alimony and how it used to be one lump sum after a divorce. It still can be one lump sum. It’s the choice of the person paying alimony. If you don’t have 50 thousand dollars laying around, I guess you’re going to be paying monthly?
As far as permanent alimony that is usually awarded when one spouse is disabled. Permanent alimony is extremely rare.
The fact that he even brought this up as a talking point annoys me. The only men who bring up child support and alimony are men who don’t value a woman’s role in a marriage or household, because a lot of women do sacrifice their financial security when raising children.
I work with all men. All of them are married and one is a single father. The married men can work as much as they want 99% of the time. Their wives are handling everything at home. The single father has to leave early every Friday. He has to take off more for doctor appointments. Not only is he not making as much money as everyone else, it’s unlikely he’s going to be asked to handle special projects because of his limited availability. That’s the reality for a lot of women.
There are good men. I have a friend going through a divorce now and I mentioned something suggesting how to lessen his financial obligation through divorce and he snapped back that she was raising his child and she deserves it.
Unrelated but I know men who acknowledge the negative affects porn can have on a relationship. Point being, I know amazing men.
I don’t think in black and white. It’s not psychological warfare. I think both sexes can be toxic. I wouldn’t advise a woman or anyone to force their partner to sacrifice their financial security. If there is a stay at home parent, I would advise them to have the working parent contribute to a retirement account in their name at the very least.
Now, can you lower your expectations of conversations that are had here? Lol. Nothing I’m saying is going to change any man’s mind here simply because they don’t value women. Just let me scream into the void.
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Far out that's a lot to read can't you just say something short and reactionary and I can react to it without thinking about it?
see mate ! and everytime they complain about me being lazy to readclick to expand
I cbf lol. And then I find one word that annoys me and react to it and get in trouble for not taking the whole context lol fml can we talk about archeology or something cool I can do that all day.
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by nanochipPosted by Walk_on_byI think it’s hilarious (concerning) that’s all you took from that exchange. You ignored the abuse-domination dynamic topic we were discussing completely, and took the word “challenge” grossly out of context.
I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
I think you know this too. Any man can get a submissive housewife who wants to be kept, they are everywhere. Why haven’t you if that’s so appealing?
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Where’s the fun in that not being challenged?click to expand
Some men like a challenge. They like the thrill of the chase, they find value in a woman who has opinions, thoughts, and ideas of her own. They like the feedback and sometimes pushback on their BS. They like a woman who’s independent and who will accept nothing less than to be seen as his equal. She has healthy priorities that don’t consist of him 100% of the time, and enforces healthy boundaries.
Other men see this as a threat. They desire fragile, vulnerable, disadvantaged women they can dominate and control easily. Who won’t challenge their thoughts and opinions, because they need to be right all the time. To tell them they are wrong, would be to tell them to stop breathing, they will surely die. They want to feel like they have power over a woman, physically or financially or emotionally. Or all 3 of them! These are the creeps who for example, date 20 years younger women whose brains aren’t fully formed or target disabled women. They want to swoop in with their capes on and be there to “save” them. Meanwhile creating a dependency because it simply makes them feel more powerful and needed. Maybe this gives their life purpose. Who knows. Sadly, this type of man is common.
Posted by EggrollPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by EggrollPosted by Walk_on_byThat’s what you read. That’s not what I said.Posted by EggrollWhere did anyone say make women quit their job and ruin their lives. This is all in your head. Same with the other comment, you're litterally the one who sees it as a competition.Posted by Walk_on_byPosted by EggrollPosted by LuckyLibra7
Alimony is reserved for significant differences in pay or a housewife who takes care of the children. It is an absolutely ridiculous concept for a couple in the same tax bracket.
If a divorce is initiated, take what's yours and leave. In past cultures, the man would have to put up X amount of money in case of a divorce for the woman which is fair. But it's a set amount and not this continuous check that keeps coming to fulfill a failed obligation of marriage..
"Permanant" alimony is an even more ridiculous concept and you're crying that the system was created for men. Alimony was created to benefit women and unfortunately there will be outliers who escape paying.. sorry but they're not the majority.
I was waiting for this argument. This is why I would never encourage a woman to learn to cook or any domestic skills to attract a man. Domestic labor and child rearing is not valued by men. They want you to sacrifice building your career handling the domestic labor and then tel you to leave empty handed.
Women go to school and get as much higher education as you need to out earn your husband so that he can sacrifice moving up in his career. That way if he wants to leave the marriage he’ll be 10 years behind in career building experience. Make him sacrifice his financial security and sabotage his earning potential.
Why do you live in this insane world where its all black and white like it's a psychological warfare game ?
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Matching the tone of the men who commented but only my comments bother you?
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You’re more intelligent than most in this topic and I would have a more intelligent conversation but with others, not so much.
For example the libra mentioning alimony and how it used to be one lump sum after a divorce. It still can be one lump sum. It’s the choice of the person paying alimony. If you don’t have 50 thousand dollars laying around, I guess you’re going to be paying monthly?
As far as permanent alimony that is usually awarded when one spouse is disabled. Permanent alimony is extremely rare.
The fact that he even brought this up as a talking point annoys me. The only men who bring up child support and alimony are men who don’t value a woman’s role in a marriage or household, because a lot of women do sacrifice their financial security when raising children.
I work with all men. All of them are married and one is a single father. The married men can work as much as they want 99% of the time. Their wives are handling everything at home. The single father has to leave early every Friday. He has to take off more for doctor appointments. Not only is he not making as much money as everyone else, it’s unlikely he’s going to be asked to handle special projects because of his limited availability. That’s the reality for a lot of women.
There are good men. I have a friend going through a divorce now and I mentioned something suggesting how to lessen his financial obligation through divorce and he snapped back that she was raising his child and she deserves it.
Unrelated but I know men who acknowledge the negative affects porn can have on a relationship. Point being, I know amazing men.
I don’t think in black and white. It’s not psychological warfare. I think both sexes can be toxic. I wouldn’t advise a woman or anyone to force their partner to sacrifice their financial security. If there is a stay at home parent, I would advise them to have the working parent contribute to a retirement account in their name at the very least.
Now, can you lower your expectations of conversations that are had here? Lol. Nothing I’m saying is going to change any man’s mind here simply because they don’t value women. Just let me scream into the void.
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Far out that's a lot to read can't you just say something short and reactionary and I can react to it without thinking about it?
Stick to the script next time! Stop trying to ad-lib.
When I say it’s all your fault, I need you to say no! it’s all YOUR fault!
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It's all my fault
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I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
I think it’s hilarious (concerning) that’s all you took from that exchange. You ignored the abuse-domination dynamic topic we were discussing completely, and took the word “challenge” grossly out of context.
I think you know this too. Any man can get a submissive housewife who wants to be kept, they are everywhere. Why haven’t you if that’s so appealing?
Because it always seems like women interoperate men not wanting to be challanged as men wanting women to be submissive. Honestly if that's what it takes to not be challenged by their partner who is supposed to be the opposite of challenging, supportive. Then that's gonna be what it takes, men are going to want submissive women.click to expand
Being challenged isn’t mutually exclusive to being supportive though. There’s a difference between being supportive and being a doormat. There are a lot of men who want doormats! And this is the type we are talking about.
A woman doesn’t need to agree with you all the time. She should feel comfortable calling you out if she feels you are wrong, or give you advice if she thinks it would be helpful. You would take her thoughts into consideration. It means that she is valued as an equal, her thoughts and opinions and experiences matter to you. Many men find this threatening and unacceptable
Posted by nanochipPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by nanochipPosted by Walk_on_byI think it’s hilarious (concerning) that’s all you took from that exchange. You ignored the abuse-domination dynamic topic we were discussing completely, and took the word “challenge” grossly out of context.
I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
I think you know this too. Any man can get a submissive housewife who wants to be kept, they are everywhere. Why haven’t you if that’s so appealing?
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Where’s the fun in that not being challenged?
Some men like a challenge. They like the thrill of the chase, they find value in a woman who has opinions, thoughts, and ideas of her own. They like the feedback and sometimes pushback on their BS. They like a woman who’s independent and who will accept nothing less than to be seen as his equal. She has healthy priorities that don’t consist of him 100% of the time, and enforces healthy boundaries.
Other men see this as a threat. They desire fragile, vulnerable, disadvantaged women they can dominate and control easily. Who won’t challenge their thoughts and opinions, because they need to be right all the time. To tell them they are wrong, would be to tell them to stop breathing, they will surely die. They want to feel like they have power over a woman, physically or financially or emotionally. Or all 3 of them! These are the creeps who for example, date 20 years younger women whose brains aren’t fully formed or target disabled women. They want to swoop in with their capes on and be there to “save” them. Meanwhile creating a dependency because it simply makes them feel more powerful and needed. Maybe this gives their life purpose. Who knows. Sadly, this type of man is common.click to expand
Yes, strong confident men like a challenge ….. and we know the rest ….
Posted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by nanochipPosted by Walk_on_byI think it’s hilarious (concerning) that’s all you took from that exchange. You ignored the abuse-domination dynamic topic we were discussing completely, and took the word “challenge” grossly out of context.
I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
I think you know this too. Any man can get a submissive housewife who wants to be kept, they are everywhere. Why haven’t you if that’s so appealing?
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Where’s the fun in that not being challenged?
gimme an example, because competition inside of the couple to me is instant GO NEXTclick to expand
You don’t like a bit of struggle, a healthy challenge?
I’m challenging
The challenge is to hold my attention after 6 months 😅
The challenge is to hold my attention after 6 months 😅
Posted by Basic
I’m challenging
The challenge is to hold my attention after 6 months 😅
What happens at 6 months?
Also go tone your hair! I would go 8 or 9A, or something with lots of purple undertones
Posted by nanochipPosted by Basic
I’m challenging
The challenge is to hold my attention after 6 months 😅
What happens at 6 months?
Also go tone your hair! I would go 8 or 9A, or something with lots of purple undertonesclick to expand
Idk that is just the length I’ve noticed on average where the honeymoon stage wears off and it’s kind of a rut from there. The relationship lasts way more than 6 months though.
I will bleach again lol but I’m waiting a little bit so it’s gonna be orange for awhile 😅
Nano are you an only child of divorce like me? Or do you have siblings? 🤣
Posted by BasicPosted by nanochipPosted by Basic
I’m challenging
The challenge is to hold my attention after 6 months 😅
What happens at 6 months?
Also go tone your hair! I would go 8 or 9A, or something with lots of purple undertones
Idk that is just the length I’ve noticed on average where the honeymoon stage wears off and it’s kind of a rut from there. The relationship lasts way more than 6 months though.
I will bleach again lol but I’m waiting a little bit so it’s gonna be orange for awhile 😅
Nano are you an only child of divorce like me? Or do you have siblings? 🤣click to expand
So you’re over it by 6 months and stick around? How long was the longest?
I’m the middle child. I have an older sister and a younger brother. Close to my brother but not my sister
Posted by __ixi__
In the unwieldy trenches of DXPnet, usually a celestial sanctuary of star-crossed astrologers, a gender squabble had escalated into full-scale warfare. Less a noble battle of ideologies, more a petty squabble on steroids, the forum had turned into a war-torn landscape.
Commanding the Fem Front was Lt. Com Nanite. The general in this digital quagmire was less a stoic figure of dignity and more like a stressed-out traffic cop in rush hour. She'd coordinate a strategic rebuttal, only for it to dissolve into a flurry of sarcastic memes and snarky asides.
Facing off against the FemFront, were the Manosphere Marauders. More a gaggle of unruly schoolboys with an internet connection than an organized battalion, they'd come with a sort of chaotic energy that had the punch of a wet noodle. Their strategy? A barrage of chaotic posts that had the subtlety of a flashbang in a library.
In this landscape of ideological chaos, the true victims were the everyday members of DXPnet. The 'civilians', if you will. Caught in the crossfire, their usually ..."peaceful" debates on whether Mercury in retrograde justified a bad hair day were now drowned in an avalanche of gender-related bickering. Each login was like stepping into a minefield.
But, here's the kicker, no one was truly innocent in this. Everyone had picked a side, willingly or not, their 'like' buttons and replies betraying their allegiances. The usual space for mystical pondering had now transformed into a digital battlefield, the echo of keyboard strokes as haunting as any war cry.
Every notification was a grenade, each new post a round of ammunition. In this paradoxical war of 'us versus them' on a forum where everybody was somewhat to blame, all DXPnet could do was strap in and enjoy this dark comedy of fuck ups. From star signs to battle lines, the transformation was as bizarre as it was humorous.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Yoooooooo! That was really good, ixi
Posted by nanochipPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by nanochipPosted by Walk_on_byI think it’s hilarious (concerning) that’s all you took from that exchange. You ignored the abuse-domination dynamic topic we were discussing completely, and took the word “challenge” grossly out of context.
I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
I think you know this too. Any man can get a submissive housewife who wants to be kept, they are everywhere. Why haven’t you if that’s so appealing?
Because it always seems like women interoperate men not wanting to be challanged as men wanting women to be submissive. Honestly if that's what it takes to not be challenged by their partner who is supposed to be the opposite of challenging, supportive. Then that's gonna be what it takes, men are going to want submissive women.
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Being challenged isn’t mutually exclusive to being supportive though. There’s a difference between being supportive and being a doormat. There are a lot of men who want doormats! And this is the type we are talking about.
A woman doesn’t need to agree with you all the time. She should feel comfortable calling you out if she feels you are wrong, or give you advice if she thinks it would be helpful. You would take her thoughts into consideration. It means that she is valued as an equal, her thoughts and opinions and experiences matter to you. Many men find this threatening and unacceptableclick to expand
Dude yeah I get it. But a challenging woman is going to think "she feels you are wrong, or give you advice if she thinks it would be helpful." about every goddam dumb thing in the world and she also is going to think she can bring up any shit she wants at any time of the day to the point where a man gets no chill. And I man every dumb thing like the way the tea towels are folded level shit. This kinda woman breaks a man down. Its very common, you don't believe me because you've never experienced it but there are a lot of women who are all ways testing angles at you to try and find a weakness. They do it even when you're not in a relationship at all, you might be at a work place with them and they do it as if you're dating because they're just programed like that.
Posted by nanochipPosted by BasicPosted by nanochipPosted by Basic
I’m challenging
The challenge is to hold my attention after 6 months 😅
What happens at 6 months?
Also go tone your hair! I would go 8 or 9A, or something with lots of purple undertones
Idk that is just the length I’ve noticed on average where the honeymoon stage wears off and it’s kind of a rut from there. The relationship lasts way more than 6 months though.
I will bleach again lol but I’m waiting a little bit so it’s gonna be orange for awhile 😅
Nano are you an only child of divorce like me? Or do you have siblings? 🤣
So you’re over it by 6 months and stick around? How long was the longest?
I’m the middle child. I have an older sister and a younger brother. Close to my brother but not my sisterclick to expand
I definitely stick around coz I try to make it work but it doesn’t. Now I know that if the first 6 months are already bad then that is not a good thing at all. Longest was about 3 years and that could have gone on if the pandemic hadn’t happened.
Oh lol I guess I’m all alone as usual being an only child of divorce! 🤣
I believe in taxi cab theory though for men. When we’re ready our lights will be on and it’s gonna be the first woman that hails a cab.
Posted by __ixi__
In the unwieldy trenches of DXPnet, usually a celestial sanctuary of star-crossed astrologers, a gender squabble had escalated into full-scale warfare. Less a noble battle of ideologies, more a petty squabble on steroids, the forum had turned into a war-torn landscape.
Commanding the Fem Front was Lt. Com Nanite. The general in this digital quagmire was less a stoic figure of dignity and more like a stressed-out traffic cop in rush hour. She'd coordinate a strategic rebuttal, only for it to dissolve into a flurry of sarcastic memes and snarky asides.
Facing off against the FemFront, were the Manosphere Marauders. More a gaggle of unruly schoolboys with an internet connection than an organized battalion, they'd come with a sort of chaotic energy that had the punch of a wet noodle. Their strategy? A barrage of chaotic posts that had the subtlety of a flashbang in a library.
In this landscape of ideological chaos, the true victims were the everyday members of DXPnet. The 'civilians', if you will. Caught in the crossfire, their usually ..."peaceful" debates on whether Mercury in retrograde justified a bad hair day were now drowned in an avalanche of gender-related bickering. Each login was like stepping into a minefield.
But, here's the kicker, no one was truly innocent in this. Everyone had picked a side, willingly or not, their 'like' buttons and replies betraying their allegiances. The usual space for mystical pondering had now transformed into a digital battlefield, the echo of keyboard strokes as haunting as any war cry.
Every notification was a grenade, each new post a round of ammunition. In this paradoxical war of 'us versus them' on a forum where everybody was somewhat to blame, all DXPnet could do was strap in and enjoy this dark comedy of fuck ups. From star signs to battle lines, the transformation was as bizarre as it was humorous.
Wahahahah!
I’m waiting for this thread to reach 1000 posts like the inter racial dating thread of 2013
Then we back baby!!
Posted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by nanochipPosted by Walk_on_byBeing challenged isn’t mutually exclusive to being supportive though. There’s a difference between being supportive and being a doormat. There are a lot of men who want doormats! And this is the type we are talking about.Posted by nanochipBecause it always seems like women interoperate men not wanting to be challanged as men wanting women to be submissive. Honestly if that's what it takes to not be challenged by their partner who is supposed to be the opposite of challenging, supportive. Then that's gonna be what it takes, men are going to want submissive women.Posted by Walk_on_by
I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
I think it’s hilarious (concerning) that’s all you took from that exchange. You ignored the abuse-domination dynamic topic we were discussing completely, and took the word “challenge” grossly out of context.
I think you know this too. Any man can get a submissive housewife who wants to be kept, they are everywhere. Why haven’t you if that’s so appealing?
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A woman doesn’t need to agree with you all the time. She should feel comfortable calling you out if she feels you are wrong, or give you advice if she thinks it would be helpful. You would take her thoughts into consideration. It means that she is valued as an equal, her thoughts and opinions and experiences matter to you. Many men find this threatening and unacceptable
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Dude yeah I get it. But a challenging woman is going to think "she feels you are wrong, or give you advice if she thinks it would be helpful." about every goddam dumb thing in the world and she also is going to think she can bring up any shit she wants at any time of the day to the point where a man gets no chill. And I man every dumb thing like the way the tea towels are folded level shit. This kinda woman breaks a man down. Its very common, you don't believe me because you've never experienced it but there are a lot of women who are all ways testing angles at you to try and find a weakness. They do it even when you're not in a relationship at all, you might be at a work place with them and they do it as if you're dating because they're just programed like that.
pretending challenging woman are not hot and not interessing, it cant be simplier than that.click to expand
It doesn't make them interesting or more engaging. Man life is real real hard, I don't need to have a relationship with someone who try's to make it harder for me. If I'm gonna try be someone's partner I want to try make their day easier and better every day and expect the same.
Posted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by nanochipPosted by Walk_on_byI think it’s hilarious (concerning) that’s all you took from that exchange. You ignored the abuse-domination dynamic topic we were discussing completely, and took the word “challenge” grossly out of context.
I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
I think you know this too. Any man can get a submissive housewife who wants to be kept, they are everywhere. Why haven’t you if that’s so appealing?
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Where’s the fun in that not being challenged?
gimme an example, because competition inside of the couple to me is instant GO NEXT
You don’t like a bit of struggle, a healthy challenge?
i'm lazy to make a long answers but overall its no, its doesnt work and its overall not sexy,
not threateting just not sexy, like its not interessingclick to expand
You don’t think banter and stimulating conversations aren’t sexy…you like a woman that agrees with you all the time?
Posted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by nanochipPosted by Walk_on_byBeing challenged isn’t mutually exclusive to being supportive though. There’s a difference between being supportive and being a doormat. There are a lot of men who want doormats! And this is the type we are talking about.Posted by nanochipBecause it always seems like women interoperate men not wanting to be challanged as men wanting women to be submissive. Honestly if that's what it takes to not be challenged by their partner who is supposed to be the opposite of challenging, supportive. Then that's gonna be what it takes, men are going to want submissive women.Posted by Walk_on_by
I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
I think it’s hilarious (concerning) that’s all you took from that exchange. You ignored the abuse-domination dynamic topic we were discussing completely, and took the word “challenge” grossly out of context.
I think you know this too. Any man can get a submissive housewife who wants to be kept, they are everywhere. Why haven’t you if that’s so appealing?
click to expand
A woman doesn’t need to agree with you all the time. She should feel comfortable calling you out if she feels you are wrong, or give you advice if she thinks it would be helpful. You would take her thoughts into consideration. It means that she is valued as an equal, her thoughts and opinions and experiences matter to you. Many men find this threatening and unacceptable
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Dude yeah I get it. But a challenging woman is going to think "she feels you are wrong, or give you advice if she thinks it would be helpful." about every goddam dumb thing in the world and she also is going to think she can bring up any shit she wants at any time of the day to the point where a man gets no chill. And I man every dumb thing like the way the tea towels are folded level shit. This kinda woman breaks a man down. Its very common, you don't believe me because you've never experienced it but there are a lot of women who are all ways testing angles at you to try and find a weakness. They do it even when you're not in a relationship at all, you might be at a work place with them and they do it as if you're dating because they're just programed like that.
pretending challenging woman are not hot and not interessing, it cant be simplier than that.
It doesn't make them interesting or more engaging. Man life is real real hard, I don't need to have a relationship with someone who try's to make it harder for me. If I'm gonna try be someone's partner I want to try make their day easier and better every day and expect the same.
its okay man, i directly told them to die alone irl.
helen of troy was so beautiful that she made two kings going crazy to have her.
today is like "i outearn u and why dont u have an erection when i talk to u about this business model ?
oh btw i got a promotion at my BS job doing excell" this is not sexy. there is no challenge, u arent interessing. mostly girls i like are artists or a girl who hate her bs job.
avoid proud slaves, avoid themclick to expand
I wanna girlfriend who wakes me up a 2am to ask me If I'd still love her if she's a worm.
Posted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by nanochipPosted by Walk_on_byI think it’s hilarious (concerning) that’s all you took from that exchange. You ignored the abuse-domination dynamic topic we were discussing completely, and took the word “challenge” grossly out of context.
I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
I think you know this too. Any man can get a submissive housewife who wants to be kept, they are everywhere. Why haven’t you if that’s so appealing?
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Where’s the fun in that not being challenged?
gimme an example, because competition inside of the couple to me is instant GO NEXT
You don’t like a bit of struggle, a healthy challenge?
i'm lazy to make a long answers but overall its no, its doesnt work and its overall not sexy,
not threateting just not sexy, like its not interessing
You don’t think banter and stimulating conversations aren’t sexy…you like a woman that agrees with you all the time?
this is being normal', the real problem is people who tell to their partner that they should do better when life is hard and they already doing their best. Money doesnt workclick to expand
Yes that can be difficult, its finding the line between encouraging and criticizing
You can only do your best as my mother used to say 🐐
Posted by Walk_on_byPosted by nanochipPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by nanochipPosted by Walk_on_byI think it’s hilarious (concerning) that’s all you took from that exchange. You ignored the abuse-domination dynamic topic we were discussing completely, and took the word “challenge” grossly out of context.
I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
I think you know this too. Any man can get a submissive housewife who wants to be kept, they are everywhere. Why haven’t you if that’s so appealing?
Because it always seems like women interoperate men not wanting to be challanged as men wanting women to be submissive. Honestly if that's what it takes to not be challenged by their partner who is supposed to be the opposite of challenging, supportive. Then that's gonna be what it takes, men are going to want submissive women.
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Being challenged isn’t mutually exclusive to being supportive though. There’s a difference between being supportive and being a doormat. There are a lot of men who want doormats! And this is the type we are talking about.
A woman doesn’t need to agree with you all the time. She should feel comfortable calling you out if she feels you are wrong, or give you advice if she thinks it would be helpful. You would take her thoughts into consideration. It means that she is valued as an equal, her thoughts and opinions and experiences matter to you. Many men find this threatening and unacceptable
Dude yeah I get it. But a challenging woman is going to think "she feels you are wrong, or give you advice if she thinks it would be helpful." about every goddam dumb thing in the world and she also is going to think she can bring up any shit she wants at any time of the day to the point where a man gets no chill. And I man every dumb thing like the way the tea towels are folded level shit. This kinda woman breaks a man down. Its very common, you don't believe me because you've never experienced it but there are a lot of women who are all ways testing angles at you to try and find a weakness. They do it even when you're not in a relationship at all, you might be at a work place with them and they do it as if you're dating because they're just programed like that.click to expand
And I won’t argue against that, but I will say that it’s not always like that and it’s NOT even one sided either. For example, most of the time my guy and I get along great. It’s about specific topics that we don’t necessarily see eye to eye on when we engage in debates. Yes sometimes we argue and fight, but we make up and discuss it like adults. We both apologize when we need to and we move on with our lives
What you describe is a pretty normal experience for 2 people who are living together for the first time, trying to understand what works and what doesn’t.
Do you think it’s just the women that’s challenging? No. I do shit all the time in my day to day that grates on his nerves. He got onto me this morning when I’m half asleep because I have some clothes on the floor! So what! I get 4-6 hours of sleep a night, and he snores so loud and wakes me when I finally to get to sleep, that I want to suffocate him. He also leaves used dishes and cups over his pc desk but can’t handle some jeans on the floor. These are annoying parts of life we have to deal with each other, compromises we make because we love the other person. It’s not just 1 person being challenging all the time!
Posted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by FUCKTHISLIFEYou don’t like a bit of struggle, a healthy challenge?Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by nanochipWhere’s the fun in that not being challenged?Posted by Walk_on_by
I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
I think it’s hilarious (concerning) that’s all you took from that exchange. You ignored the abuse-domination dynamic topic we were discussing completely, and took the word “challenge” grossly out of context.
I think you know this too. Any man can get a submissive housewife who wants to be kept, they are everywhere. Why haven’t you if that’s so appealing?
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gimme an example, because competition inside of the couple to me is instant GO NEXT
i'm lazy to make a long answers but overall its no, its doesnt work and its overall not sexy,
not threateting just not sexy, like its not interessing
You don’t think banter and stimulating conversations aren’t sexy…you like a woman that agrees with you all the time?
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this is being normal', the real problem is people who tell to their partner that they should do better when life is hard and they already doing their best. Money doesnt workclick to expand
How many serious relationships have you been in? How long was your longest relationship? You are giving me strong vibes that you don’t have any experience with women.
Posted by Walk_on_byPosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by Walk_on_bypretending challenging woman are not hot and not interessing, it cant be simplier than that.Posted by nanochipDude yeah I get it. But a challenging woman is going to think "she feels you are wrong, or give you advice if she thinks it would be helpful." about every goddam dumb thing in the world and she also is going to think she can bring up any shit she wants at any time of the day to the point where a man gets no chill. And I man every dumb thing like the way the tea towels are folded level shit. This kinda woman breaks a man down. Its very common, you don't believe me because you've never experienced it but there are a lot of women who are all ways testing angles at you to try and find a weakness. They do it even when you're not in a relationship at all, you might be at a work place with them and they do it as if you're dating because they're just programed like that.Posted by Walk_on_byPosted by nanochipPosted by Walk_on_by
I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
I think it’s hilarious (concerning) that’s all you took from that exchange. You ignored the abuse-domination dynamic topic we were discussing completely, and took the word “challenge” grossly out of context.
I think you know this too. Any man can get a submissive housewife who wants to be kept, they are everywhere. Why haven’t you if that’s so appealing?
Because it always seems like women interoperate men not wanting to be challanged as men wanting women to be submissive. Honestly if that's what it takes to not be challenged by their partner who is supposed to be the opposite of challenging, supportive. Then that's gonna be what it takes, men are going to want submissive women.
click to expand
Being challenged isn’t mutually exclusive to being supportive though. There’s a difference between being supportive and being a doormat. There are a lot of men who want doormats! And this is the type we are talking about.
A woman doesn’t need to agree with you all the time. She should feel comfortable calling you out if she feels you are wrong, or give you advice if she thinks it would be helpful. You would take her thoughts into consideration. It means that she is valued as an equal, her thoughts and opinions and experiences matter to you. Many men find this threatening and unacceptable
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It doesn't make them interesting or more engaging. Man life is real real hard, I don't need to have a relationship with someone who try's to make it harder for me. If I'm gonna try be someone's partner I want to try make their day easier and better every day and expect the same.
its okay man, i directly told them to die alone irl.
helen of troy was so beautiful that she made two kings going crazy to have her.
today is like "i outearn u and why dont u have an erection when i talk to u about this business model ?
oh btw i got a promotion at my BS job doing excell" this is not sexy. there is no challenge, u arent interessing. mostly girls i like are artists or a girl who hate her bs job.
avoid proud slaves, avoid them
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I wanna girlfriend who wakes me up a 2am to ask me If I'd still love her if she's a worm.click to expand
This sounds immature and annoying. It sounds like something an insecure teenager would do, for a tik tok video or something.
Posted by nanochipPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by FUCKTHISLIFEPosted by Walk_on_bypretending challenging woman are not hot and not interessing, it cant be simplier than that.Posted by nanochipDude yeah I get it. But a challenging woman is going to think "she feels you are wrong, or give you advice if she thinks it would be helpful." about every goddam dumb thing in the world and she also is going to think she can bring up any shit she wants at any time of the day to the point where a man gets no chill. And I man every dumb thing like the way the tea towels are folded level shit. This kinda woman breaks a man down. Its very common, you don't believe me because you've never experienced it but there are a lot of women who are all ways testing angles at you to try and find a weakness. They do it even when you're not in a relationship at all, you might be at a work place with them and they do it as if you're dating because they're just programed like that.Posted by Walk_on_byPosted by nanochipPosted by Walk_on_by
I think it's hilarious women being annoyed about men not wanting a partner that challenges them. Why the hell would you want your partner to be a challenge, life is hard you don't need a partner that makes it harder.
I think it’s hilarious (concerning) that’s all you took from that exchange. You ignored the abuse-domination dynamic topic we were discussing completely, and took the word “challenge” grossly out of context.
I think you know this too. Any man can get a submissive housewife who wants to be kept, they are everywhere. Why haven’t you if that’s so appealing?
Because it always seems like women interoperate men not wanting to be challanged as men wanting women to be submissive. Honestly if that's what it takes to not be challenged by their partner who is supposed to be the opposite of challenging, supportive. Then that's gonna be what it takes, men are going to want submissive women.
click to expand
Being challenged isn’t mutually exclusive to being supportive though. There’s a difference between being supportive and being a doormat. There are a lot of men who want doormats! And this is the type we are talking about.
A woman doesn’t need to agree with you all the time. She should feel comfortable calling you out if she feels you are wrong, or give you advice if she thinks it would be helpful. You would take her thoughts into consideration. It means that she is valued as an equal, her thoughts and opinions and experiences matter to you. Many men find this threatening and unacceptable
click to expand
It doesn't make them interesting or more engaging. Man life is real real hard, I don't need to have a relationship with someone who try's to make it harder for me. If I'm gonna try be someone's partner I want to try make their day easier and better every day and expect the same.
its okay man, i directly told them to die alone irl.
helen of troy was so beautiful that she made two kings going crazy to have her.
today is like "i outearn u and why dont u have an erection when i talk to u about this business model ?
oh btw i got a promotion at my BS job doing excell" this is not sexy. there is no challenge, u arent interessing. mostly girls i like are artists or a girl who hate her bs job.
avoid proud slaves, avoid them
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I wanna girlfriend who wakes me up a 2am to ask me If I'd still love her if she's a worm.
This sounds immature and annoying. It sounds like something an insecure teenager would do, for a tik tok video or something.click to expand
*Sigh*
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