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Posted by cunninglinguist
My Scorpio was just as cautious about diving into sex as I was. We waited a few months, and even then, I was the one who initiated. But we were official first, before even ever thinking about sex. And now, we're completely uninhibited with each other and super happy. He's the most dedicated bf imaginable, and runs around showing me off to his family and friends. lol

The thing with making guys wait, isn't that it'll affect a guy's opinion of you - it'll simply measure it. A guy who truly respects you will not even WANT to try to convince you. He'll be happy to wait until you're good and ready and he's committed. If a guy even slightly insists on viewing you primarily sexually...bin him. If anything, a guy should be just as cautious (in a good way) as you.

But the real reason women shouldn't be having sex too soon is oxytocin . This is a hormone released from sex that makes the person feel biologically bonded to their sex partner. Women, because of estrogen, are much more sensitive to the hormone. Men release a tiny bit of the hormone too, but much less than women do, and testosterone actually mutes the effects of even that.

So it creates a one sided attachment if done prematurely.

Sucks to be female, but it is what it is.





this is much better advice..thank you
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
Posted by celticlioness
Lol, you know how to say it 🙂



...Well, technically it could be virginal status. Props to her for only being with one guy. To each their own. However, the fact that she thinks she's so experienced in this department is lol worthy.

How can you sit here and say that men are a certain way after sex when you've only been with ONE? For 11 years no less?

Let's not forget that she's been speaking of that marriage in the past tense. Please explain, why is the OP looking down her nose at the rest of women when it appears that her marriage failed?

Apparently dangling your vag as some coveted prize and playing games doesn't always make for a permanent relationship.

At least those of us who have been with a few didn't waste 11 years of our youths on one guy. Many of us may have been through a few, but we didn't marry the first guy we fucked.

OP, I get your point, but it's the looking down on and perpetuating a societal bullshit standard that I have an issue with. Instead of scorning women for something society perpetuates, how about being supportive by not continuing this double standard? If you truly were trying to look out for other females, you wouldn't be shoving this stupid double standard down their throats.
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gotta love rocky!!! my girl!
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Posted by BikerCh1ck
Posted by ianthepisces
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Posted by ianthepisces
luck...

ive got a kid..


I know that.
I can't have a kid.
I will get a dog though.. soon..
A white long haired chihuahua .. ^_^ or a maltese ( if I can afford it)



why cant you have a kid? because you have pcos?


Four reasons:
a) pcos decreases your chances to get pregnant
b) I am already 31
c) I am no longer in a long term relationship with someone so no more unprotected sex
d) I don't have money to go to a sperm bank so I have to do it the natural way 😛
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Oh, pish posh! You're still young yet! If you want kids, it's quite possible you'll have them. Who knows what the future holds...
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Posted by xxPinkFerrarixx
Well guess what here's the deal.

You women can sit there and bitch at me till the cows come home

but that won't change the reality that classy women get more respect in society.

And classy women *never* put out on the 3rd date or even within just weeks of knowing the man.

She will be more cautious and discerning than that because she values herself and sees herself as a

prize to be won. Not some freebie to give away.

And for those of you who say that I am talking down to you,

you are also talking down to me for being inexperienced

with men so don't even try to play the victim here.

If the majority of men in this world had the option to choose between a woman who willingly put out

on the 3rd date and the woman who made him earn her affection and did NOT give herself too freely to

him, and these women BOTH had the same gorgeous looks, same intellect, and showered him with the same

amount of love, support, and affection, and they both had great chemistry with him, who do you think he's going to pick??

9 out of 10 men are going to pick the classier one because whether you like it or not, he will think

there is much less of a chance that she will cheat on him. He will think he lucked out by

getting her because he had to put in some effort to win her. At this point, the easy woman will lose

her appeal just like that. What's so special about her now?

I'm just saying to all you fuck-on-the-3rd-date women out there, when a classier woman comes

along, you won't stand a chance against her.

🙂

That's reality.


Bye- bye.





+1

Warning: Some of you might want to get your ear plugs out 'cause I'm about to start preaching old man style in 3...2...1....

I'm gonna go ahead and give this above post the green light only 'cause as a male, I can see the average woman having a higher success rate in dating/finding lasting love if she took this approach. Most men will not freely admit this in public because then it might lessen the frequency of his sexual encounters with women. I've seen the results from both approaches and I will be brutally honest. What OP is suggesting simply has a higher success rate as a whole compared to the other approach. But like truecap said, it's all about what you're seeking and what you're comfortable with.
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Posted by celticlioness
Lol, note to self - work on becoming classy,
step 1 get some pink sunglasses
step 2 get a pink top
step 3 get pink earrings
step 4 manipulate a man by using sex or lack thereof to "get" him
step 5 manipulate said man further so that he will buy me a pink ferrari 🙂

Wish me luck, i'm soooo looking forward to my classy future it's all looking rosy pink right now



Childish.
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Posted by xxPinkFerrarixx

I'm just saying to all you fuck-on-the-3rd-date women out there, when a classier woman comes

along, you won't stand a chance against her.

🙂

That's reality.

Bye- bye.



So why did he dump you after 11 years?
You can stroke your ego all you want.. but not having sex doesn't make you a prize. It makes you sexually frustrated.
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Dump me?

Oh I'm sure it would have absolutely made your day if that were the case! lol

However *I* was the one who dumped him because he was too stiff and boring
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Posted by BikerCh1ck
You are not good enough in my eyes to be able to break or make my day.
I am also not interested in having sex with you. So you have to find other ways to impress me.
Back to our subject now..
So you waited that long and you didn't find out about his personality?
Isn't this the first thing you notice about someone?
A person can't hide their true self more than 6 months if you are close together.
It took you 11 years to discover who he was?
I wonder what you were focusing on when you were waiting. Was it his bank account?



lol You need to learn to read because I said

I *knew* he was stiff and unaffectionate from the get go due to his upbringing

but being a nurturing woman, I decided to take him under my wing anyway.

I do have a soft side ya know lol Oh and he does make good money but then again so do I lol
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Dating has because one big mess of mind games and silly etiquette that many blindly follow. Only guys who follow societies made up rules would think giving it up early is a sign to leave...or rather...to use girls then leave (and still come out the 'right' ones). And I don't want to be with such narrow-minded people who can only think how society has taught them. It's stupid. No mature guy that I have met has ever said that giving it up early is automatically a bad thing and means that the girl is a whore or slut. Only those who have quite a bit of growing up to do. Not to mention, those who are secretly insanely insecure.

I'm sure whatever 'classy' actually means to you, it's full of standards that have been dictated by society as perfect and good and moral. So, fuck classy. I don't need it to be respected by guys and to have successful relationships. I also don't need it to make myself feel like a better person or more worthy woman.
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Posted by xxPinkFerrarixx
Posted by BikerCh1ck
You are not good enough in my eyes to be able to break or make my day.
I am also not interested in having sex with you. So you have to find other ways to impress me.
Back to our subject now..
So you waited that long and you didn't find out about his personality?
Isn't this the first thing you notice about someone?
A person can't hide their true self more than 6 months if you are close together.
It took you 11 years to discover who he was?
I wonder what you were focusing on when you were waiting. Was it his bank account?



I decided to manipulate him to change him.

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I fixed it for you. You're welcome. 😄
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"I am just saddened/annoyed by the lack of foresight by misogynistic women. They truly think setting different standards for male and female sexual behaviors has NO EFFECT on them.

They don't get why them immediately calling any woman who dares be sexual a hoe and having no such judgement of a man (or even going so far as to excuse him), has extreme repercussions on their own relationships with men.
They honestly can't put two and two together that the reason all the men around them seem to cheat without even feeling remorse while those same men would feel justified in feeling betrayed if their women did the same, is because those different standards allow them to think its acceptable for them to do whatever they want and women should just deal with.

They also truly think that there is honor in being viewed as naturally incapable of thinking for oneself or being a leader. Nevermind the consequences this might have on hiring practices or just the underlying insulting nature of the statement.

They don't get how imposing different standards of responsibility on boys and girls leads to the high level of absentee fathers.

Honestly I can go on and on, but its crazy that some women just don't get how much they could help themselves in their own lives now if they stopped reinforcing practices that are counterproductive to them."


this passage sums up my feelings on this matter & more eloquently than I am currently able to, at that.



Thiiiiisss
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Posted by xxPinkFerrarixx
Posted by BikerCh1ck
You are not good enough in my eyes to be able to break or make my day.
I am also not interested in having sex with you. So you have to find other ways to impress me.
Back to our subject now..
So you waited that long and you didn't find out about his personality?
Isn't this the first thing you notice about someone?
A person can't hide their true self more than 6 months if you are close together.
It took you 11 years to discover who he was?
I wonder what you were focusing on when you were waiting. Was it his bank account?



lol You need to learn to read because I said

I *knew* he was stiff and unaffectionate from the get go due to his upbringing

but being a nurturing woman, I decided to take him under my wing anyway.

I do have a soft side ya know lol Oh and he does make good money but then again so do I lol
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I find it amusing that you scold women for making such an age old mistake, when you have done the same yourself.

"I CAN CHANGE HIM AND NUTURE HIM INTO WHO I WANT!!"

El oh fucking el.

Just blame estrogen and be done with it. We've all had it fuck us over at one point or another.
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Posted by BalmyTigress
I would like to offer another point of view to this.

Let's say you encounter a man who thinks that having sex too early would be off-putting. Yet he has sex with her anyway. What does that say about him? Doesn't that mean that he has a set of standards he's not able to live by and is expecting other people to enforce those standards for him? Who would want to be with a weak man like that? You'd always have to be the one to make the decisions for him and guide him, and if things fail, he could always blame you, because he just wasn't able to step up and do the right thing himself.

Just a thought.



Have often thought of this

In the early stage they sleep together consensually

He considers without any substantiation

Don't know how many she has slept with
Don't know who she has slept with
Don't know where she has been
Don't know if she doesn't do this all the time

Computates and gets his answer - Ho

therfore he decides to have a quick one and then make a hasty exit patting himself on the back for getting laid

so he

dips his wick where seemingly many have before
dips his wick where who knows who has before
dips his wick wherever she has been
dips his wick where others have been all the time

With all of this knowledge what does that make him? Other than someone who has no solid principals and is prepared to put his willy god knows where - quite possibly the said vaginal vessel probably hasn't travelled too far or that much.
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Posted by BalmyTigress
I would like to offer another point of view to this.

Let's say you encounter a man who thinks that having sex too early would be off-putting. Yet he has sex with her anyway. What does that say about him? Doesn't that mean that he has a set of standards he's not able to live by and is expecting other people to enforce those standards for him? Who would want to be with a weak man like that? You'd always have to be the one to make the decisions for him and guide him, and if things fail, he could always blame you, because he just wasn't able to step up and do the right thing himself.

Just a thought.



Yes I agree with you. And those men are really just wolves disguised as gentlemen.

Go look at the thread "Males banging females they don't respect".

A thread dedicated entirely to men like the ones you're referring to.

But they are pretty easy to spot as well, don't you think??

If he tries to get you in bed with him early on, he is probably one of those

hypocritical ''wants to have his cake and eat it too'' types.

Probably best to stay away from them.



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Posted by twinklebluetoes
You really must be bitter about something to want to stalk me all over the Internet. Once again you are bringing out all your stereotypes. My relationship with my Scorpio is actually not one of the instances I was referring to and I was using BC at the time. But please carry on and act like you know me. It's quite amusing.

I don't have an ego for you to attack so I don't know what response you are wanting?

It's kind of hilarious and sadly pathetic to watch you fret over there by yourself.




There you go again, deflecting the bitterness onto others. Clearly that goes for the "fret" as well.
The "instance" you left out in your attempt to belittle the OP's thread, was necessary to point out not only the fact that you are a hypocrite but a miserable, spiteful and immature female who blames a man for knocking you up, and as revenge keeping your daughter who wants to see him from doing so. When I pointed out your serious error in judgement, I got the same type of response and deflection over there. You laid that out for all to see, and here you are denying the fact that you fall directly into the category of the title of this thread. Now, whose pathetic? Turn the mirror back around, cuz it's not helping you a bit to do otherwise. smh
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/scorpio/contacting-my-scorpio-ex-4004548/
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Posted by BalmyTigress
I would like to offer another point of view to this.

Let's say you encounter a man who thinks that having sex too early would be off-putting. Yet he has sex with her anyway. What does that say about him? Doesn't that mean that he has a set of standards he's not able to live by and is expecting other people to enforce those standards for him?




That kid pointed that out in that "why men bang women they don't respect" or whatever it was. "lol, you think you're the shit because you slept with some questionable chick, but what does that say about you and your standards??"

This is why I have an issue with women who want to berate other women about having sex whenever they please. We should be able to go and get it whenever we want without the bs that we get for it. Currently, our society calls women sluts or whores if they enjoy sex and they deserve no respect if they choose to go out and get it as a guy would. However, guys are a man's man if they go around sleeping with whomever they want. In turn, they don't get the treatment women do- women aren't as likely to look down on a guy if he puts out too fast.

What the OP mentioned- does it happen? Absolutely. Not every guy is like this, but it sure as hell happens. I also cringe when women come here, talk about sleeping with him within the first 1-2 dates, then whine because the guy disappeared. Feel free to sleep with him whenever you want, but be aware of potential consequences because there are guys out there who do this bs.

However, the entire concept is bullshit. Women shouldn't have to worry about this and be held to such a double standard. The other night, I'd had a random thought about possibly having some sort of fwb set up or casual sex thing. Just a thought. But what nixed that thought was the idea of all the major bullshit involved. The potential treatment afterward. The guy getting possessive, any of the bs that can pop up from it all. I immediately got turned off and also really annoyed because it's the standards that society keeps perpetuating that make it harder for women to do this without getting looked down upon or treated like crap. It just ain't right. :/
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I have a lot of guy friends and so far, the consensus is that many of them generally don't have an issue with women wanting to go out and get some like guys.

They do know of other guys who tend to go out and hit it with whoever, no matter how nasty. Sometimes alcohol is involved. They cringe when these guys do that- "That shit is nasty."

They may be passive and just stay quiet and let their other friends do as they please with women, but they sure as hell don't agree with it.

Unfortunately, what's actually happening and what society perpetuates can be two separate things, oddly enough. I'm always asking guy friends about things that society says guys like or what women should do in regard to guys. So far, I've rarely had answers that match those of what society states.

Overall- society standards can be quite biased and very misleading.
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Posted by BalmyTigress
I would like to offer another point of view to this.

Let's say you encounter a man who thinks that having sex too early would be off-putting. Yet he has sex with her anyway. What does that say about him? Doesn't that mean that he has a set of standards he's not able to live by and is expecting other people to enforce those standards for him? Who would want to be with a weak man like that? You'd always have to be the one to make the decisions for him and guide him, and if things fail, he could always blame you, because he just wasn't able to step up and do the right thing himself.

Just a thought.



thats why I dont like the stance of the op.....its all about proving something to a man....like I always say its mans world and women continue to make it that way. If a women wants to have sex she should do it and not worry about the mans percerption of her after. thats too much stress anyway...and you think men care about how classy they are being? nope
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Posted by xxPinkFerrarixx

I'm just saying to all you fuck-on-the-3rd-date women out there, when a classier woman comes

along, you won't stand a chance against her.

🙂

That's reality.








That IS a fact^^^^^ The G
OOD news is, at least the men have something to practice with. 😉
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will you care or question these same men on how many women they have slept with? will you judge them as harshly as you have judged women you dont even know? and a women isnt a "good" woman because she slept with a guy on the the third date? i mean the same hyppthetical guy slept with a woman in the third date but he is still considered good? and the women isnt? please explain these huge double standars to me because im having the hardest time grasping it.
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Posted by bkbella86
Posted by BalmyTigress
I would like to offer another point of view to this.

Let's say you encounter a man who thinks that having sex too early would be off-putting. Yet he has sex with her anyway. What does that say about him? Doesn't that mean that he has a set of standards he's not able to live by and is expecting other people to enforce those standards for him? Who would want to be with a weak man like that? You'd always have to be the one to make the decisions for him and guide him, and if things fail, he could always blame you, because he just wasn't able to step up and do the right thing himself.

Just a thought.



thats why I dont like the stance of the op.....its all about proving something to a man....like I always say its mans world and women continue to make it that way. If a women wants to have sex she should do it and not worry about the mans percerption of her after. thats too much stress anyway...and you think men care about how classy they are being? nope
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Wow...I actually agree with you. They aren't worried about that at all. The only thing they're worried about is getting laid.
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
I have a lot of guy friends and so far, the consensus is that many of them generally don't have an issue with women wanting to go out and get some like guys.

They do know of other guys who tend to go out and hit it with whoever, no matter how nasty. Sometimes alcohol is involved. They cringe when these guys do that- "That shit is nasty."

They may be passive and just stay quiet and let their other friends do as they please with women, but they sure as hell don't agree with it.

Unfortunately, what's actually happening and what society perpetuates can be two separate things, oddly enough. I'm always asking guy friends about things that society says guys like or what women should do in regard to guys. So far, I've rarely had answers that match those of what society states.

Overall- society standards can be quite biased and very misleading.



I really loathe double standards.
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Posted by BalmyTigress
I would like to offer another point of view to this.

Let's say you encounter a man who thinks that having sex too early would be off-putting. Yet he has sex with her anyway. What does that say about him? Doesn't that mean that he has a set of standards he's not able to live by and is expecting other people to enforce those standards for him? Who would want to be with a weak man like that? You'd always have to be the one to make the decisions for him and guide him, and if things fail, he could always blame you, because he just wasn't able to step up and do the right thing himself.

Just a thought.



thats why I dont like the stance of the op.....its all about proving something to a man....like I always say its mans world and women continue to make it that way. If a women wants to have sex she should do it and not worry about the mans percerption of her after. thats too much stress anyway...and you think men care about how classy they are being? nope



Wow...I actually agree with you. They aren't worried about that at all. The only thing they're worried about is getting laid.
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Men, I'm referring to.