Same Taurus, different year--what's with the pattern?

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Cappiunicorn
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I'm a Capricorn female and have been friends with a Taurus male for over 10 years. We have a pattern of dating on and off and now we’re on our 3rd cycle LOL. I would like to end the cycle but I honestly don’t know how, because I’m not sure why he keeps popping up.

IDK how much our past plays into what’s happening now but here’s the Cliff’s Notes version of our history: In the beginning we were together all the time but he didn’t tell me he wanted a relationship—he was acting like a typical Taurus in love, but I didn’t know or recognize the signs (we earth signs can be super dense lol). We lost contact, and he found me years later when I was in the downslope of a relationship—THAT’S when he told me that he was hurt that I “disappeared” and that he could see us being together. After I left the relationship we tried to date but we were immature and insecure (he accused me of using him and joked about my ex coming back), so I said we should just be friends. He didn’t take that well AT ALL. We did try but months later we got into a huge argument and cut ties

.

He found me again years later and we both apologized, and after a few months we tried to date AGAIN but my friend passed suddenly and I wasn’t myself. We eventually fizzled out romantically but kept in touch. Months afterwards I saw him and finally told him I still had feelings for him, but he politely informed me he was involved, so I gave up, even though we remained friends.

Last year he started randomly texting me—he mentioned he was no longer involved, but I was so I kept my distance. This January I posted a selfie on Facebook and he commented, "Do you have a bf? Do you want one?? Lol." I figured he was joking so I gave the laughing reaction. February he invited me to a gathering at his house—I was no longer involved so I went. I expected a casual encounter but as the night went on he began acting like he did when we first met! Soon it was just us cuddled up in the backyard like 10 years of drama had never happened.

I’ve been a few more times but due to my work schedule I wasn’t able to go every time he asked, because he usually insists that I stay. And TBH, I’ve been a bit on the defense because in the back of my mind I’m wondering why he’s all of a sudden wanting to spend time with me. The last time I went a few weeks ago he asked if I was going home afterwards and I said yes. Since then, we've been on a date and hung out a few times, but he hasn’t been flirting with me.

Even though we’ve both matured, if the pattern holds true then this is the part where he pulls back--and because he pulls back, I do the same, because I’ve always thought that if he wants more from me, he'll pursue it. Some people have suggested that he’s being cautious because of our past and that I may need to engage him more, but the Capricorn in me thinks he’s playing around or I’m just a fun distraction for him. Either way, I’m SOOO done with the cycle and have no idea on how to stop it! I do want to see if there’s more between us, but I’m afraid that I’ll come on too strong and ruin the friendship, or embarrass myself if I initiate that conversation.

Any suggestions? Or should I just run like hail and not even bother?
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these things aren't as complicated as people make them out to be.

"I do want to see if there’s more between us"

ok. well pursue that then.

"I’m afraid that I’ll come on too strong and ruin the friendship,"

because the current friendship you have is so great? the one were you play games with each other?

"or embarrass myself if I initiate that conversation."

no one ever died from embarrassment. you have to decide what is more important to you; saving face or the chance of being with him. whatever one it is; pursue that.

"because he pulls back, I do the same"

and how has that worked out so far? gotten you the results you wanted? yes? well, continue to do that. no? then stop it.

"because I’ve always thought that if he wants more from me, he'll pursue it."

maybe he thinks the same thing. you're at a stalemate.

honestly, it's been 10 years of this. just say what you mean, mean what you say and let your actions speak. it's one thing not to know what you want, it's another if you do. life is too short to be playing this cat and mouse game with each other.

you could be in an accident next week, or he could. are you really willing to let this continue or are you going to wait until something happens and then regret, thinking, i should have said something.

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Posted by MadHatter
Posted by jeane
these things aren't as complicated as people make them out to be.

"I do want to see if there’s more between us"

ok. well pursue that then.

"I’m afraid that I’ll come on too strong and ruin the friendship,"
because the current friendship you have is so great? the one were you play games with each other?

"or embarrass myself if I initiate that conversation."

no one ever died from embarrassment. you have to decide what is more important to you; saving face or the chance of being with him. whatever one it is; pursue that.

"because he pulls back, I do the same"

and how has that worked out so far? gotten you the results you wanted? yes? well, continue to do that. no? then stop it.

"because I’ve always thought that if he wants more from me, he'll pursue it."

maybe he thinks the same thing. you're at a stalemate.

honestly, it's been 10 years of this. just say what you mean, mean what you say and let your actions speak. it's one thing not to know what you want, it's another if you do. life is too short to be playing this cat and mouse game with each other.

you could be in an accident next week, or he could. are you really willing to let this continue or are you going to wait until something happens and then regret, thinking, i should have said something.




I'd like to put it to a vote to have you as the spokesperson for the Taurus board. You put everything so well and right in the money.

Can I get a second from the other Tauri? click to expand
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ha, thanks. i think my patience wears thin most of the time. other people are far more eloquent and giving in their responses (@agentp911 i'm looking at you).

but sometimes the answer is right in front of the op!! it's so incredibly frustrating to watch so i feel compelled to lob my truncated two-penneth into the fray.
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Posted by MadHatter
Posted by jeane
these things aren't as complicated as people make them out to be.

"I do want to see if there’s more between us"

ok. well pursue that then.

"I’m afraid that I’ll come on too strong and ruin the friendship,"
because the current friendship you have is so great? the one were you play games with each other?

"or embarrass myself if I initiate that conversation."

no one ever died from embarrassment. you have to decide what is more important to you; saving face or the chance of being with him. whatever one it is; pursue that.

"because he pulls back, I do the same"

and how has that worked out so far? gotten you the results you wanted? yes? well, continue to do that. no? then stop it.

"because I’ve always thought that if he wants more from me, he'll pursue it."

maybe he thinks the same thing. you're at a stalemate.

honestly, it's been 10 years of this. just say what you mean, mean what you say and let your actions speak. it's one thing not to know what you want, it's another if you do. life is too short to be playing this cat and mouse game with each other.

you could be in an accident next week, or he could. are you really willing to let this continue or are you going to wait until something happens and then regret, thinking, i should have said something.




I'd like to put it to a vote to have you as the spokesperson for the Taurus board. You put everything so well and right in the money.

Can I get a second from the other Tauri? click to expand
click to expand


I second, third and fourth!

I want her to write a book
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Posted by MadHatter
Posted by Boots1313
Posted by MadHatter
Posted by jeane
these things aren't as complicated as people make them out to be.

"I do want to see if there’s more between us"

ok. well pursue that then.

"I’m afraid that I’ll come on too strong and ruin the friendship,"
because the current friendship you have is so great? the one were you play games with each other?

"or embarrass myself if I initiate that conversation."

no one ever died from embarrassment. you have to decide what is more important to you; saving face or the chance of being with him. whatever one it is; pursue that.

"because he pulls back, I do the same"

and how has that worked out so far? gotten you the results you wanted? yes? well, continue to do that. no? then stop it.

"because I’ve always thought that if he wants more from me, he'll pursue it."

maybe he thinks the same thing. you're at a stalemate.

honestly, it's been 10 years of this. just say what you mean, mean what you say and let your actions speak. it's one thing not to know what you want, it's another if you do. life is too short to be playing this cat and mouse game with each other.

you could be in an accident next week, or he could. are you really willing to let this continue or are you going to wait until something happens and then regret, thinking, i should have said something.






I'd like to put it to a vote to have you as the spokesperson for the Taurus board. You put everything so well and right in the money.

Can I get a second from the other Tauri? click to expand


I second, third and fourth!

I want her to write a book click to expand

Well, that settles it. @Jeane it's all in your hands now. That's how democracy works... sorry.


Call us if you need us lol click to expand
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I don't do the phone, send a passanger pigeon and I'll deal with it next week
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Posted by MadHatter
Posted by Boots1313
Posted by MadHatter
Posted by jeane
these things aren't as complicated as people make them out to be.

"I do want to see if there’s more between us"

ok. well pursue that then.

"I’m afraid that I’ll come on too strong and ruin the friendship,"
because the current friendship you have is so great? the one were you play games with each other?

"or embarrass myself if I initiate that conversation."

no one ever died from embarrassment. you have to decide what is more important to you; saving face or the chance of being with him. whatever one it is; pursue that.

"because he pulls back, I do the same"

and how has that worked out so far? gotten you the results you wanted? yes? well, continue to do that. no? then stop it.

"because I’ve always thought that if he wants more from me, he'll pursue it."

maybe he thinks the same thing. you're at a stalemate.

honestly, it's been 10 years of this. just say what you mean, mean what you say and let your actions speak. it's one thing not to know what you want, it's another if you do. life is too short to be playing this cat and mouse game with each other.

you could be in an accident next week, or he could. are you really willing to let this continue or are you going to wait until something happens and then regret, thinking, i should have said something.






I'd like to put it to a vote to have you as the spokesperson for the Taurus board. You put everything so well and right in the money.

Can I get a second from the other Tauri? click to expand


I second, third and fourth!

I want her to write a book click to expand

Well, that settles it. @Jeane it's all in your hands now. That's how democracy works... sorry.


Call us if you need us lol click to expand
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i already have a title - "Are you fucking serious with this shit?"

i mean, how hard could it be? el james has made a fortune...
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Posted by MadHatter
Posted by jeane
Posted by MadHatter
Posted by Boots1313
Posted by MadHatter
Posted by jeane
these things aren't as complicated as people make them out to be.

"I do want to see if there’s more between us"

ok. well pursue that then.

"I’m afraid that I’ll come on too strong and ruin the friendship,"
because the current friendship you have is so great? the one were you play games with each other?

"or embarrass myself if I initiate that conversation."

no one ever died from embarrassment. you have to decide what is more important to you; saving face or the chance of being with him. whatever one it is; pursue that.

"because he pulls back, I do the same"

and how has that worked out so far? gotten you the results you wanted? yes? well, continue to do that. no? then stop it.

"because I’ve always thought that if he wants more from me, he'll pursue it."

maybe he thinks the same thing. you're at a stalemate.

honestly, it's been 10 years of this. just say what you mean, mean what you say and let your actions speak. it's one thing not to know what you want, it's another if you do. life is too short to be playing this cat and mouse game with each other.

you could be in an accident next week, or he could. are you really willing to let this continue or are you going to wait until something happens and then regret, thinking, i should have said something.






I'd like to put it to a vote to have you as the spokesperson for the Taurus board. You put everything so well and right in the money.

Can I get a second from the other Tauri? click to expand


I second, third and fourth!

I want her to write a book click to expand



Well, that settles it. @Jeane it's all in your hands now. That's how democracy works... sorry.


Call us if you need us lol click to expand



i already have a title - "Are you treetrunking serious with this butter?"

i mean, how hard could it be? el james has made a fortune! click to expand


Lol...
Hold up...
On second thought.. we need to work out a royalty agreement on your title lol.
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i'll split it three ways - i'm nothing if not fair.

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#libra!
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he probably thinks he has been waiting for you this entire time.

he also CAN NOT READ YOUR MIND

so if you want this to be the real deal.

let him know, THIS IS REAL.

you want it to be real, your worried because he means more to you then just a friend and that need him to tell you the same.

seriously getting information is like pulling teeth

and no matter what, you probably have no idea what he is thinking.

but if he is back then this is your chance by his actions.
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Cappiunicorn
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Posted by jeane
these things aren't as complicated as people make them out to be.

"I do want to see if there’s more between us"

ok. well pursue that then.

"I’m afraid that I’ll come on too strong and ruin the friendship,"

because the current friendship you have is so great? the one were you play games with each other?

"or embarrass myself if I initiate that conversation."

no one ever died from embarrassment. you have to decide what is more important to you; saving face or the chance of being with him. whatever one it is; pursue that.

"because he pulls back, I do the same"

and how has that worked out so far? gotten you the results you wanted? yes? well, continue to do that. no? then stop it.

"because I’ve always thought that if he wants more from me, he'll pursue it."

maybe he thinks the same thing. you're at a stalemate.

honestly, it's been 10 years of this. just say what you mean, mean what you say and let your actions speak. it's one thing not to know what you want, it's another if you do. life is too short to be playing this cat and mouse game with each other.

you could be in an accident next week, or he could. are you really willing to let this continue or are you going to wait until something happens and then regret, thinking, i should have said something.



I sooo love this lol. You're absolutely right.

Let me stop BSing and overanalyzing and go put my big girl panties on this time.
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Posted by jeane
Posted by MadHatter
Posted by jeane
these things aren't as complicated as people make them out to be.

"I do want to see if there’s more between us"

ok. well pursue that then.

"I’m afraid that I’ll come on too strong and ruin the friendship,"
because the current friendship you have is so great? the one were you play games with each other?

"or embarrass myself if I initiate that conversation."

no one ever died from embarrassment. you have to decide what is more important to you; saving face or the chance of being with him. whatever one it is; pursue that.

"because he pulls back, I do the same"

and how has that worked out so far? gotten you the results you wanted? yes? well, continue to do that. no? then stop it.

"because I’ve always thought that if he wants more from me, he'll pursue it."

maybe he thinks the same thing. you're at a stalemate.

honestly, it's been 10 years of this. just say what you mean, mean what you say and let your actions speak. it's one thing not to know what you want, it's another if you do. life is too short to be playing this cat and mouse game with each other.

you could be in an accident next week, or he could. are you really willing to let this continue or are you going to wait until something happens and then regret, thinking, i should have said something.






I'd like to put it to a vote to have you as the spokesperson for the Taurus board. You put everything so well and right in the money.

Can I get a second from the other Tauri? click to expand
ha, thanks. i think my patience wears thin most of the time. other people are far more eloquent and giving in their responses (@agentp911 i'm looking at you).

but sometimes the answer is right in front of the op!! it's so incredibly frustrating to watch so i feel compelled to lob my truncated two-penneth into the fray. click to expand
click to expand

LOL @Jeane.

I have been known to write a few things on here from time to time...

I think Jeane pulls apart the relevant points for OP to consider.

From reading the initial post it seems to me that OP has not given as much consideration as to what she wants, what she can offer, where she is in life etc. There's a lot of focus and rhetorical questions focusing on what HE wants or what HE is thinking or what HE is feeling... But OP isn't 100% clear on her own stance.

OP, where are you in your life right now? Are you quite settled and stable? Do you want a boyfriend? Do you have time to give to build a relationship with another person? You said you are busy with work or that you don't see this guy much, only every few weeks. You need to think about what you are able to offer this man right now. The idea of a boyfriend might appeal to you yet your actions will show him you don't have the time to invest into building the foundation for a relationship.

Once you figure out these things and are clear with what you want etc, you can then see what this guy is looking for and wants, and then you will see if that matches for both of you.

You may just want a casual friendship where you see each other every few weeks as that's all you can offer right now. He may want a more serious commitment or just a fuck buddy.

I don't know what you want or what he wants but be clear with yourself and then you can present your 'case and terms' to him and he can decide if he wants it or not.

I think your history isn't necessarily an indicator as to how any future might be but what it does show is that neither of you are clear with your communication and both are fearful, these are not helpful to you and won't sustain within a long term, think the next 30 years, relationship.

Be bold.
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Posted by AgentP911
Posted by jeane
Posted by MadHatter
Posted by jeane
these things aren't as complicated as people make them out to be.

"I do want to see if there’s more between us"

ok. well pursue that then.

"I’m afraid that I’ll come on too strong and ruin the friendship,"
because the current friendship you have is so great? the one were you play games with each other?

"or embarrass myself if I initiate that conversation."

no one ever died from embarrassment. you have to decide what is more important to you; saving face or the chance of being with him. whatever one it is; pursue that.

"because he pulls back, I do the same"

and how has that worked out so far? gotten you the results you wanted? yes? well, continue to do that. no? then stop it.

"because I’ve always thought that if he wants more from me, he'll pursue it."

maybe he thinks the same thing. you're at a stalemate.

honestly, it's been 10 years of this. just say what you mean, mean what you say and let your actions speak. it's one thing not to know what you want, it's another if you do. life is too short to be playing this cat and mouse game with each other.

you could be in an accident next week, or he could. are you really willing to let this continue or are you going to wait until something happens and then regret, thinking, i should have said something.






I'd like to put it to a vote to have you as the spokesperson for the Taurus board. You put everything so well and right in the money.

Can I get a second from the other Tauri? click to expand


ha, thanks. i think my patience wears thin most of the time. other people are far more eloquent and giving in their responses (@agentp911 i'm looking at you).

but sometimes the answer is right in front of the op!! it's so incredibly frustrating to watch so i feel compelled to lob my truncated two-penneth into the fray. click to expand

LOL @Jeane.

I have been known to write a few things on here from time to time...

I think Jeane pulls apart the relevant points for OP to consider.

From reading the initial post it seems to me that OP has not given as much consideration as to what she wants, what she can offer, where she is in life etc. There's a lot of focus and rhetorical questions focusing on what HE wants or what HE is thinking or what HE is feeling... But OP isn't 100% clear on her own stance.

OP, where are you in your life right now? Are you quite settled and stable? Do you want a boyfriend? Do you have time to give to build a relationship with another person? You said you are busy with work or that you don't see this guy much, only every few weeks. You need to think about what you are able to offer this man right now. The idea of a boyfriend might appeal to you yet your actions will show him you don't have the time to invest into building the foundation for a relationship.

Once you figure out these things and are clear with what you want etc, you can then see what this guy is looking for and wants, and then you will see if that matches for both of you.

You may just want a casual friendship where you see each other every few weeks as that's all you can offer right now. He may want a more serious commitment or just a fuck buddy.

I don't know what you want or what he wants but be clear with yourself and then you can present your 'case and terms' to him and he can decide if he wants it or not.

I think your history isn't necessarily an indicator as to how any future might be but what it does show is that neither of you are clear with your communication and both are fearful, these are not helpful to you and won't sustain within a long term, think the next 30 years, relationship.

Be bold. click to expand
click to expand


see? much more measured and generous in thought and word.

i bow down to you.
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Posted by MadHatter
Posted by jeane
these things aren't as complicated as people make them out to be.

"I do want to see if there’s more between us"

ok. well pursue that then.

"I’m afraid that I’ll come on too strong and ruin the friendship,"
because the current friendship you have is so great? the one were you play games with each other?

"or embarrass myself if I initiate that conversation."

no one ever died from embarrassment. you have to decide what is more important to you; saving face or the chance of being with him. whatever one it is; pursue that.

"because he pulls back, I do the same"

and how has that worked out so far? gotten you the results you wanted? yes? well, continue to do that. no? then stop it.

"because I’ve always thought that if he wants more from me, he'll pursue it."

maybe he thinks the same thing. you're at a stalemate.

honestly, it's been 10 years of this. just say what you mean, mean what you say and let your actions speak. it's one thing not to know what you want, it's another if you do. life is too short to be playing this cat and mouse game with each other.

you could be in an accident next week, or he could. are you really willing to let this continue or are you going to wait until something happens and then regret, thinking, i should have said something.




I'd like to put it to a vote to have you as the spokesperson for the Taurus board. You put everything so well and right in the money.

Can I get a second from the other Tauri? click to expand
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agreed. She owns it.
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Posted by jeane
Posted by AgentP911
Posted by jeane
Posted by MadHatter
Posted by jeane
these things aren't as complicated as people make them out to be.

"I do want to see if there’s more between us"

ok. well pursue that then.

"I’m afraid that I’ll come on too strong and ruin the friendship,"
because the current friendship you have is so great? the one were you play games with each other?

"or embarrass myself if I initiate that conversation."

no one ever died from embarrassment. you have to decide what is more important to you; saving face or the chance of being with him. whatever one it is; pursue that.

"because he pulls back, I do the same"

and how has that worked out so far? gotten you the results you wanted? yes? well, continue to do that. no? then stop it.

"because I’ve always thought that if he wants more from me, he'll pursue it."

maybe he thinks the same thing. you're at a stalemate.

honestly, it's been 10 years of this. just say what you mean, mean what you say and let your actions speak. it's one thing not to know what you want, it's another if you do. life is too short to be playing this cat and mouse game with each other.

you could be in an accident next week, or he could. are you really willing to let this continue or are you going to wait until something happens and then regret, thinking, i should have said something.






I'd like to put it to a vote to have you as the spokesperson for the Taurus board. You put everything so well and right in the money.

Can I get a second from the other Tauri? click to expand


ha, thanks. i think my patience wears thin most of the time. other people are far more eloquent and giving in their responses (@agentp911 i'm looking at you).

but sometimes the answer is right in front of the op!! it's so incredibly frustrating to watch so i feel compelled to lob my truncated two-penneth into the fray. click to expand



LOL @Jeane.

I have been known to write a few things on here from time to time...

I think Jeane pulls apart the relevant points for OP to consider.

From reading the initial post it seems to me that OP has not given as much consideration as to what she wants, what she can offer, where she is in life etc. There's a lot of focus and rhetorical questions focusing on what HE wants or what HE is thinking or what HE is feeling... But OP isn't 100% clear on her own stance.

OP, where are you in your life right now? Are you quite settled and stable? Do you want a boyfriend? Do you have time to give to build a relationship with another person? You said you are busy with work or that you don't see this guy much, only every few weeks. You need to think about what you are able to offer this man right now. The idea of a boyfriend might appeal to you yet your actions will show him you don't have the time to invest into building the foundation for a relationship.

Once you figure out these things and are clear with what you want etc, you can then see what this guy is looking for and wants, and then you will see if that matches for both of you.

You may just want a casual friendship where you see each other every few weeks as that's all you can offer right now. He may want a more serious commitment or just a treetrunk buddy.

I don't know what you want or what he wants but be clear with yourself and then you can present your 'case and terms' to him and he can decide if he wants it or not.

I think your history isn't necessarily an indicator as to how any future might be but what it does show is that neither of you are clear with your communication and both are fearful, these are not helpful to you and won't sustain within a long term, think the next 30 years, relationship.

Be bold. click to expand
see? much more measured and generous in thought and word.

i bow down to you. click to expand
click to expand

Lol
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Oh gosh, this is my situation. Its been 8yrs and we are on round 3 as well. He's disappeared twice and keeps popping up.

I'm honestly never ready for a relationship, and this time is no different and I told him that.

It seems like serious business when a cap and taurus gets together, and I don't think I'm ALL the way ready for it. I kind of live a lackadaisical life, that's been pretty stagnant and a hindrance I'll admit, but I don't want to change for him, and the pressure is there and it's a pressure that I don't necessarily like. I kind of get away from my thoughts on what I want for myself and my life and start thinking about where he'd probably like me to be, and it's not a head space I'm ready for. Idk, timing is just not right...ever.

I wish you luck. I do think Agent has a good point in figuring out what you want because it plays a huge part in this.