IS A VIRGO WOMAN UNFAITHFUL & SECRETIVE!— (Page 2)

I mean, the only thing clear is that (if he isn't a troll) he wants to figure this out. Ok, not through an astrology forum but people turn desperate. Because he does that, he cares about her. We don't know if she does care about him.

Pisces dude, bring the marriage counseling idea on the table. If she vehemently opposes it even if you bring it calmly, then that would be my answer.

He probably did repress concerns while she was pregnant and now it boils over in the aftermath.

He said they still have a sex life and that she cares about sex according to him. So..if her heart and body are elsewhere, there would've been a difference in the quality of it imo.

Yes, we dont know her..and thats why I was being adamant in not making any meaningful analysis and tell him what to do. The situation is too complicated and delicate to judge fairly without knowing the full story. So whatever "insight" he gets from any of us is not going to be any real point of reference for him.

I'm not beating around the bush. I don't know.

I see things that lead me to think she's cheating, things that lead me to think she's not.

Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
Yes, we dont know her..and thats why I was being adamant in not making any meaningful analysis and tell him what to do. The situation is too complicated and delicate to judge fairly without knowing the full story. So whatever "insight" he gets from any of us is not going to be any real point of reference for him.

Which is why I brought marriage counseling. A third party engaging both of them. Not only one, as we do in this topic.

Who cares if shes cheating right now or not, the real issue here goes way deeper than that possibility. The real issues are about communication problems, unresolved issues, resentment. Cheating would be only a manifestation of those issues, not the root of the problem.

Posted by Damnata

....... your wife is the virgo to end all virgos.

Tell me, other than the "Friends" issue, do you feel she loves you? Is she involved in your life? Does she take good care of you? Or is she distant?

NO DAMNATA! There is no other issue apart from "Friends". Not only feeling her deep love for me, I absolutely know that she does love me, involved deeply, 90% of our daily living is purely romantic and understanding each other well, never distant! But as u said, I THINK AM OVER REACTING, HOWEVER IF SHE HAD ANYTHING WITH "FRIENDS", AM PRETTY SURE I WILL KNOW THE TRUTH ONE DAY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WILL DO THEN! ITS BETTER IF SHE IS BOLD ENOUGH TO OPEN UP TO ME IN "ONLY THAT FRIENDS ISSUE", I WILL HELP HER WITH LOVE, BUT SHE CHANGES THERE, Damnata!
MARRIAGE COUNSELING SOUNDS GREAT, I WILL THINK ABOUT IT!

Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
Who cares if shes cheating right now or not, the real issue here goes way deeper than that possibility. The real issues are about communication problems, unresolved issues, resentment. Cheating would be only a manifestation of those issues, not the root of the problem.

Yup. We see eye to eye on this.

Posted by Hiccup

MARRIAGE COUNSELING SOUNDS GREAT, I WILL THINK ABOUT IT!

*infinity of thumbs up*

Posted by CluelessCancer
Where is P Angel

I was thinking of this, throughout.

I think she is setting up a "school of tough love and knock sense into your fins" school with the recent posters on the Pisces board. They need to be whipped into shape.

Really liked this topic..no matter what the OP got and what he intends to do.

People pitched in and now I have stuff to think about. Food for mercurials.

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Posted by Damnata
Really liked this topic..no matter what the OP got and what he intends to do.

People pitched in and now I have stuff to think about. Food for mercurials.

Yeah, NEVER marry a Virgo!

Lol, jk

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I have a Gemini descendant.

Don't tempt me.

Posted by Damnata
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........We run from emotional blowouts.

Take a deep breath and approach the topic calmly and not in an accusatory tone (i am sure she feels accused all the time because people with fire and water..we are like that. we come across as demanding).

Tell her calmly that you want to understand where she comes from. You have serious doubts about her behavior but want to see if you are right or not. Tell her there are misunderstandings between you and rather than fight, it would be better for someone who specializes in couple therapy to assess the dynamic between you so you can both benefit from it.

Thank you very much Damnata, that touched the core!

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Posted by Damnata
Really liked this topic..no matter what the OP got and what he intends to do.

People pitched in and now I have stuff to think about. Food for mercurials.

Yeah, NEVER marry a Virgo!

Lol, jk

I have a Gemini descendant.

Don't tempt me.

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You'll marry an Aries or a Libra, so dont be too worried about that.

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Posted by Damnata
Really liked this topic..no matter what the OP got and what he intends to do.

People pitched in and now I have stuff to think about. Food for mercurials.

Yeah, NEVER marry a Virgo!

Lol, jk

I have a Gemini descendant.

Don't tempt me.

You'll marry an Aries or a Libra, so dont be too worried about that.

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Pretty sure I ran out of all the Aries in the world.

I think I would grate on a Libra's nerves.

STOP JINXING ME!

No need to jinx you

Moon in Aries
Jupiter in Aries


Nuff said 😛

GAH!

GO AWAY!

I have gemini jupiter Shaks.

DOES THAT CHANGE MY LIFE?

Posted by tiziani
I said "happy wife, happy life" and that's what I believe.

It's really not worth going down the "make her miserable" route. Confrontation, sure. Just do it in a way where you don't end up causing even more damage.

I understand u Tiziani, thanks.

I will take that backhanded compliments and run with it, Gem!

*bows graciously*

Men are from Mars. Women are from Venus. Go figure.

Posted by Damnata
I will take that backhanded compliments and run with it, Gem!

*bows graciously*

I've never met a Sag asc Virgo before. I know a few Virgo with libra asc and leo asc/moon. There is one Virgo I know that I just recently find out have a Pisces moon and she is so darn organized. Sigh.

Posted by CluelessCancer

True. But how can you do that when someone hides their relations with other men and gets mad when you ask about it?

Thanks dude, u hit bull's eye!

THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOUR COMMENTS, CHALLENGES, SUGGESTIONS and some SERIOUS "REALITY CHECKS" NUDGING!
YOU HAVE BEEN HELPFUL, and am gonna take them seriously starting on organizing a MARRIAGE COUNSELING meeting, I know if we go through this it will dissolve and vent-off all anger and distrusts am having over "those issues", since I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO STAND BETWEEN ME AND LOVE & TRUST FOR HER!
BUT IF SHE OBJECTS AND RESISTS a marriage counseling, I will put my trust and affection for her for a while, having a hot discussion and hunting down those "shity-poopoo-friends", beginning with destroying "C's" reputation if not carrier, for he is a LECTURER in that college - He won't get off my hook. As for "MP", I will make sure he regrets his impudence of calling my wife "Mother MP", or Mrs.MP, whatever.
I hope she responds POSITIVELY about M.Counseling.

Still welcoming views and challenges!

Posted by Hiccup
You are absolutely right AgentP911, am not good at English, u said that. We live in Egypt.

Yeah, I guessed you might not have been from a western culture or back ground. One of my ex partners is Egyptian, from Cairo. I recognised your controlling, demanding, domineering, narcissistic, double standard type behaviour. He was cute though!

Posted by tiziani
Happy wife, happy life habibi.

I thought in Egypt it was habibty... I heard it enough times! Along with slut, slag, prostitue etc when I went outside the house with a glimpse of my shoulders on show... Damn that 48 degree heat...!!

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Posted by GG
C'mon, bro. Paragraphs!!!

This is dxp.

Exactly that!

I think I got to the second or third bit but I gave up. He's 30, been to university yet is unable to write in a grammatically correct fashion.

Next he'll be saying English isn't his first language. No excuse!

Although I did wonder if it might have been a better idea for Mr Pisces and Ms Virgo to get to know each other over a longer courtship.

It's not like they needed to rush into anything especially as they're both young ish and she was only in the second year of university.

He sounds rather fucked!

That's kinda harsh, dude! Lol. Are you new to dxp?

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Yeah, brand spanking fucking new fella!

Posted by Damnata

Posted by Octoberbaby91
Love stands the test of time you married her and barely courted her. That guy knows more about her than you! I think she just was excited that someone wanted to marry her but realistically you don't know the woman you marry.

Yes she is cheating on you and she gets mad when you NOTICE. Sounds like she doesn't take her vows seriously so put your foot down and tell her you will leave if she tree trunks you over!! You letting this girl get away with bs! virgos can fake a entire relationship if they want to and she is playing games with you.

Shouldn't have rushed marrying her now you have to clean up the mess.

You are transparent in your issues with Virgos..

Doesn't surprise me at all that you gloss over controlling behavior since it's second nature to Scorpios.

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Oh really? He is stating that he sees evidence of his wife cheating on him and all you can say to him is to overlook that because she is in labor?

Just like a virgo to take up for another virgos bs and dancig around facts.

everytime someone complain about a virgo it's always "you must've did them something to react that way"

BS some of you are selfish and only care about YOUR feelings. His wife is selfish that is the obvious fact!

she will do what You allow you don't have to put up with anything married or not.

Grow balls and have some dignity!

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C'mon, bro. Paragraphs!!!

This is dxp.

Exactly that!

I think I got to the second or third bit but I gave up. He's 30, been to university yet is unable to write in a grammatically correct fashion.

Next he'll be saying English isn't his first language. No excuse!

Although I did wonder if it might have been a better idea for Mr Pisces and Ms Virgo to get to know each other over a longer courtship.

It's not like they needed to rush into anything especially as they're both young ish and she was only in the second year of university.

He sounds rather fucked!

That's kinda harsh, dude! Lol. Are you new to dxp?

Yeah, brand spanking fucking new fella!

You forgot: acting like racist little bitch, too!

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Posted by Hiccup
You are absolutely right AgentP911, am not good at English, u said that. We live in Egypt.

Yeah, I guessed you might not have been from a western culture or back ground. One of my ex partners is Egyptian, from Cairo. I recognised your controlling, demanding, domineering, narcissistic, double standard type behaviour. He was cute though!

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Posted by Octoberbaby91
everytime someone complain about a virgo it's always "you must've did them something to react that way"

BS some of you are selfish and only care about YOUR feelings. His wife is selfish that is the obvious fact!

Its only a "fact" when both sides of the story reveal it to be so, so far we have only heard his'

@boom and we both know who won't own up to their mistakes because in their head they are innocent *rolls eyes

Anyway OP Im sorry about the Scorp girl it justs wasn't meant to be besides mudane reasons you two wasn't meant for eachother. Your virgo why is insecure and feeds off of male attention and expect for you to deal with it even if she's really not interested in those guys. You married her before knowing her true intentions. Maybe it is a test of marriage but no amount of love can help her overcome her insecurity she will have to love herself flaws and all.

Goodluck Mr. Pisces

Posted by Hiccup
being STUBBORN, RUDE, ANGRY, REVENGE, CHEATING, and BE SECRETIVE....they sometimes don't understand that LOVE is not like that...water signs easily understand ONE LOVER FOR LIFE

Umm...look at yourself. Who is rude, angry and vengeful?

The martyrdom is real!

Posted by GG
Virgo's get a bad rep. Egyptian men do too, apparently.

Only on dxp, yo.

I shudder at the welcome an egyptian gemini man would get on dxp.

Posted by Octoberbaby91


Anyway OP Im sorry about the Scorp girl it justs wasn't meant to be besides mudane reasons you two wasn't meant for eachother. Your virgo why is insecure and feeds off of male attention and expect for you to deal with it even if she's really not interested in those guys. You married her before knowing her true intentions. Maybe it is a test of marriage but no amount of love can help her overcome her insecurity she will have to love herself flaws and all.

Goodluck Mr. Pisces

Thanks O.G.91!

BoomShakalakaBoom

Ah yes... So quick to pull the 'racist' card.

What a load of shit.

Please do tell me how guessing someone might be from a different culture, due to their behaviour and use of language, is racist?

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Posted by Hiccup
being STUBBORN, RUDE, ANGRY, REVENGE, CHEATING, and BE SECRETIVE....they sometimes don't understand that LOVE is not like that...water signs easily understand ONE LOVER FOR LIFE

Umm...look at yourself. Who is rude, angry and vengeful?

The martyrdom is real!

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Woow! Sounds like I have pissed a VIRGOAN off!! Sorry Damnata, my bad! I know for sure that not all VIRGOANS are the same, they differ in personality just like any other single SIGN, behavior & attitudes are mainly influenced by CULTURES, ENVIRONMENTS, OUR UPBRINGING AND GROWING FROM BIRTH,etc.

WHAT I MEANT there is taken from what I have experienced from HER BEHAVIOR AND ATTITUDE at different times.....its easy for ME TO FOCUS MY "LOVE & ATTENTION" FOR HER ONLY, AND EASILY SEPARATE MY FRIENDS WITH MY MARRIAGE, MEANING WHAT I DO WITH HER OR CHATTING WITH HER I DON'T DO THE SAME TO ANY OTHER GIRL, AND SHE KNOWS ABOUT ALL MY FRIENDS....BUT SHE KEEPS SECRETS ABOUT HERS AND WHEN I DISCOVERD THAT SHE COMMUNICATES WITH THEM IN THE WAY COUPLE DO, AND ASKS HER TO EXPLAIN THAT BEHAVIOR, SHE GETS ANGRY, AND DEFENDING THEM, EVEN "ACCUSING ME BY SAYING THAT I DON'T WANT HER TO HAVE FRIENDS".....Can you explain this Damnata!?

Now when she says to me that I should keep quiet(SECRET) about me meeting with my EX, doesn't it mean she ALSO DOES THE SAME?

AM A MARRIED MAN, AND AS FAR AS LOVE, DEVOTION AND LOYALTY ARE CONCERNED, WHAT WILL BE THE "POINT OF KEEPING SECRET TIES WITH FRIENDS ABOUT MY EXs, MEANWHILE SEEING THEM ON PLACES WHERE MY WIFE DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT, AND TALKING TO THEM AS IF WE ARE LOVERS", will it be counted as TOTAL RESPECT, DEVOTION AND NORMAL THING TO MY WIFE?? Tell me VIRGOAN! And turning the question around, SHOULD I COUNT IT AS LOYALTY AND TOTAL LOVE DEVOTION FROM HER TO ME considering she STILL KEEP THOSE SECRETS TIES/CONNECTIONS?

I once read on a certain WEBSITE that the GREATEST WEAKNESS OF A VIRGOAN IS "PERFECTION", where they tend to see themselves as very organized & perfect more than anyone else, even when there is no such thing as perfection on them. Another thing I learn is that, NO ONE SCORNS AND CRITICIZES MORE THAN A VIRGO, AND CAN BE VERY JUDGMENTAL ON REBUKING OTHER PEOPLE ACTIONS AND BEHAVIORS ----- BUT WHEN YOU CRITICIZE them even on little

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Posted by Hiccup
being STUBBORN, RUDE, ANGRY, REVENGE, CHEATING, and BE SECRETIVE....they sometimes don't understand that LOVE is not like that...water signs easily understand ONE LOVER FOR LIFE

Umm...look at yourself. Who is rude, angry and vengeful?

The martyrdom is real!

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.....on little things, and TELLING THEM THEY HAVE DONE SOMETHING WRONG and "THEY OUGHT TO HAVE DONE THAT WAY OR THAT WAY...that's when the problem STARTS!! What do you have to say about this Damnata?

And basing on what I wrote on this DxP from the beginning, what OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY WOULD YOU WANT TO HERE? If she can't be honest face-to-face with me on OUR BEDROOM, DAMNATA, how do you ACTUALLY BELIEVE IF SHE WILL BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN HERSELF "OPENLY" ON THIS DxP, SO THAT I READ ALL WHAT SHE DID, ABOUT SECRETIVE FRIENDS, AND HOW SHE WOULD AFRAID YOUR ""HOTTEST CRITICS AND REBUKES""! I AM STRONG AND BOLD ENOUGH TO PUT OPEN MY CASE SO THAT I MAY GET FULL INSIGHTS AND DIFFERENT VIEWS FROM YOU PEOPLE, AND TRYING TO ELABORATE HER BEHAVIOR AND HER ATTITUDE!!

I THANK AND CONGRATULATE YOU ABOUT "MARRIAGE COUNSELING", I BELIEVE THIS ONE WILL HELP OUR CASE.

Fishy, you haven't pissed me off.

But yes, marriage counseling sounds good to me.

Like I said, there's a lot of her behavior which (if you are right about this) comes across as off. So, rather than state if she is cheating or not..which I have no way to know..I'm suggesting going to counseling.

You love this woman and want to make it work out somehow. That will help you gain clarity.

You have a child with this woman so you deem the marriage worth fixing. It's not as easy as...just bounce out of it because you have assumptions going on. You're just trying to do your best. I get why you respond so emotionally to everything I say.

Posted by Damnata
Fishy, you haven't pissed me off.

But yes, marriage counseling sounds good to me.

Like I said, there's a lot of her behavior which (if you are right about this) comes across as off. So, rather than state if she is cheating or not..which I have no way to know..I'm suggesting going to counseling.

You love this woman and want to make it work out somehow. That will help you gain clarity.

You have a child with this woman so you deem the marriage worth fixing. It's not as easy as...just bounce out of it because you have assumptions going on. You're just trying to do your best. I get why you respond so emotionally to everything I say.

Thank you Damnata, I assure you, I will work on that Marriage Counseling issue, it has really got me in! And Yes, I really do love her....I simply don't want to have these nagging feelings about her "seemingly-cheating", I don't have direct proof/evidence, but only her response got the best of me making me doubt her. Thank you V.M D!

SapphireMaiden! You are absolutely right about some things which I wrote, but other things u seem to completely have it backwards!
I take it you haven't gonne through every post I wrote. Take time to read me, don't be too hard to notice the other side of the coin...I love Virgoan girls, they are astrologically my opposites/perfect soul mates in some cases. You have analytical strength, SO try to do "analysis a lil' bit" basing on what I have written about her, don't close ua eyes on that! Yes am emotional, but my capacity to love and have compassion surpasses all flaws....especially on a VIRGIN! I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY!!

@SapphireMaiden!

....And based from your story Hic, it's your "approach" to get the truth out of her through a civil and undemanding manner that needs adjustment...You are being confrontational armed only with "suspicions" hence her respond to withdraw in a defensive way...if both of you will communicate properly then the misunderstandings would somehow be resolved...

Ok! You r right about these comments, thanks for the advice SaphireMaiden, will work on it.

Posted by LadyOfRebirth
From one fiery Pisces to another: Trust your gut, always.

Woow! that sends red light signals - if I were to quickly trust my gut! Thanks LadyOfRebirth! If were still on "engagement" it would have been a different story - and decisions! But now its a lot deeper and unbreakable bond, I will work on "constructive" advices I received here first to secure our marital relationship and the future of our family with our children. Thanks for the "nudging" alart!

Thank you all for your comments, advice and challenges, I feel somehow relieved after pouring my heart case down on DXP, I have some pretty cool insights now, though I still welcome more comments - from anyone!

Posted by Hiccup

I just decided to sweep the matter undercover! Since that time, she sometimes acts and behaves weirdly and seemed angry and confused as if she has got a ten tons load upon her shoulders, she becomes heartless and not sweet as I used to know her!

That first sweep under the rug was your first mistake (not to mention the repeated sweeps under the rugs after)yet you still married her and proceeded to get her pregnant in between the sweeps.
Usually women do this, it's weird seeing a guy put up with this crap.

Regardless...the only thing I can tell you is YOU made your bed, now YOU have to sleep in it. If you weren't in such a rush, and had a two year engagement instead of just one year, you would have had a better clue and a choice of WHO this woman was sleeping in the bed with you. I predict this won't last at all.

To answer your original question:

"IS A VIRGO WOMAN UNFAITHFUL & SECRETIVE!—"

You should have answered that yourself before jumping the gun and marrying her.
Doesn't matter now..either you will continue to "sweep under the rug" or divorce her.

Your choice.

Yes, but that doesnt mean you should invalidate someone's emotions in the process, they are as important as the message/issue the person is trying to convey.

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Posted by GG
C'mon, bro. Paragraphs!!!

This is dxp.

Exactly that!

I think I got to the second or third bit but I gave up. He's 30, been to university yet is unable to write in a grammatically correct fashion.

Next he'll be saying English isn't his first language. No excuse!

Although I did wonder if it might have been a better idea for Mr Pisces and Ms Virgo to get to know each other over a longer courtship.

It's not like they needed to rush into anything especially as they're both young ish and she was only in the second year of university.

He sounds rather fucked!

That's kinda harsh, dude! Lol. Are you new to dxp?

Yeah, brand spanking fucking new fella!

You forgot: acting like racist little bitch, too!

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Posted by Hiccup
You are absolutely right AgentP911, am not good at English, u said that. We live in Egypt.

Yeah, I guessed you might not have been from a western culture or back ground. One of my ex partners is Egyptian, from Cairo. I recognised your controlling, demanding, domineering, narcissistic, double standard type behaviour. He was cute though!

seriously WTF ...AGent you're very judgmental. Its awkward.

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Oh leave it out people... Shock horror, a white person made an observation about a non white person! I accurately guessed OP wasn't of western culture so I must be a racist! The rest was based on my personal experience of a guy from the same country and culture as OP.

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Posted by tiziani
Happy wife, happy life habibi.

I thought in Egypt it was habibty... I heard it enough times! Along with slut, slag, prostitue etc when I went outside the house with a glimpse of my shoulders on show... Damn that 48 degree heat...!!

Lol it is habibti when referring to the opposite sex, but as we're both men...

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Ah that will be it then! :-)