IS A VIRGO WOMAN UNFAITHFUL & SECRETIVE!— (Page 3)

@SapphireMaiden on
..."I'm being in a neutral ground here cuz I don't know the "whys" of his wife doing such things...Maybe Hic's is also at fault here about other things of which he may not divulge in dxp that led to his wife doing that regardless of the melodramatic hysterics he keep on spewing out here."

Amazing, u sound like my wife!
SapphireMaiden, am not hidding anything, what I wrote ARE WHAT & HOW IT IS. Please dont get this wrong: imagine you were my wife, WHAT SHOULD I DO TO YOU THAT CAN MAKE YOU HAVE THOSE SECRET CONNECTIONS (or cjeat WHICH YOU DEFEND ANGRILY? Imagine I hv never cheated on u, detest u, but gv u whole love, great sex, UNDIVIDED attention, care & support.

Is it a "normal thing" for a Virgo woman to have secret "romantic-like" connections unknown to her hubby & remain consciously guiltless?

Melodramatic hysterics!!? Sounds sexy to me.

@dontgetmewrong on
...Food for thought...DNA TEST!! It may be an answer to the cheating. A lot of virgos are sneaky, not all. They like to develop "close" relationships with others, but get jealous if you do. It's bc of guilty conscious. Some of the time the relationship is in their heads with this other person.


Nice point dude! Tbh I once had that in mind abt DNA, but once my child was born, I erased that idea for good - my lil' baby is all ME.

But still that can't change the fact that she had those guys in a manner that is doubtful to me. Nice point though!

@SapphireMaiden on
...If he wants to follow non-Virgos perspective like yours, then it's up to him. It's not like we have the whole picture of their life drawn before us...

You r wrong dear, I value and appreciate everyone's opinion, challenge and advice here on DxP. It makes me feel better somehow to have put my case here seeking proper advice before I decide something which may be wrong.
But still no Virgoan has answered "directly" on

@SapphireMaiden..

...Is it a "normal thing" for a Virgo woman to have secret "romantic-like" connections unknown to her hubby & remain consciously guiltless?

@SapphireMaiden.

In a normal conversation, we were once talking about a guy (LEO sign) who had several girlfriends intimately, but still he was suspecting his "real girlfriend" of being unfaithful to him!

To my surprise, instead of my wife(fiancee at that time) to at least feel sorry for that "girl being cheated" by that guy,
she said "IF A GUY SUSPECTS ME OF BEING UNFAITHFUL, I WILL REALLY DO IT JUST TO PLEASE MYSELF, I DON'T CARE WHAT HE WILL THINK AFTERWARDS"...
I looked her straight in the eye, and she faltered, "No no no no no, not me baby, I won't cheat on u, u've a good heart, sorry didn't mean that honey"!

I still monitored her closely, and life went on great...but when I discovered those "issues" she couldn't explained well, but got angry, crying sometimes, defensive falsely accusing me of not wanting her to have friends.

At least I have been calm, trying to understand and help her, giving her space, and keep myself grounded on guard until she gave birth, and here am simply seeking for an advice that will help us.

If I were a "hot-headed and temperamental" pers, I would have done worse on her basing on "doubtful discoveries" only - BUT I DIDN'T, STILL TREATED HER WITH RESPECT AND PATIENCE. Can't u see it SapphireMaiden?

And now u say "melodramatic hysterics" from me? Cute!

@dontgetmewrong on

"By the way, I am a dudETTE."

Woow, sorry dear!

@dontgetmewrong on

"YES!! They do. They get bored easily in relationships, if they feel like they have a void and they find someone who fills that void. To be honest, and my no means am I saying that ALL virgo women do this, but pretty much every virgo woman i know do cheat. I know more that do than don't. Their minds get going and they have to see if the grass is greener."

Thanks dear! Got some insights, not the bad ones but on how our "personalities" are.

@dontgetmewrong on

"Virgos are highly intelligent and very good at hiding their indescretions. I know alot of virgos friends and families secrets (of course I will take them to my grave), and they are exceptional actors...academy award worthy I swear. Some have been having full blown affairs for years and some short lived flings and their SO/spouse have no clue to their bullbutter. They know they are doing wrong...but they can't help themselves."

Clap! Clap! Clap!
If that's the case with her, if only she was bold enough to tell me everything and stop being defensive, there is nothing I couldn't forgive and forget if it sincerely came out of her mouth and confess, I would still love her unconditionally -- but her current attitude makes me also withdraw sometimes, "and she gets really worried if I'm acting cold"!
Thanks for the insight!

@SapphireMaiden

Dear, I value ua opinions and challenges. But please, be honesty, I didn't ask u just one question, I've even written some additional things, but u didn't see them, I assume! If u could answer that question "what should I, husband, do to her to make her do what she has been doing"? I think that will be enough to see a clue on both parties -- because there is no way, absolute no way SapphireMaiden for her too to put her "own side" which explains "why" she has been doing that for me to see also, its not possible.
I don't need sympathy baby girl, I need advice, insight and challenges too, I value everyone's opinions, I think Marriage Counseling sounds good for us, but wanting another side of the story - do u believe its possible for her to put it in DxP?
I have been bold to put "our problem" myself.

If I had "strongly" convinced she is cheating before writting on DxP, I would have DONE something else about that temperamental, but I decided to be POLITE and PATIENCE, which many people seem not to get in their heads.

And please dear, u r free to answer or not to answer them, doesn't mean u'll generalize on all VIRGO woman if u do answer, just focus on my "marital affair", if u have detected any shortcomings of me in my story, u will help me if u mention them.

But I can give u one of my biggest weakness, is "personally I don't forget easily any emotional drama/deception, though I can easily forgive a person who does if they confess and be sincere and open afterwards, but if they repeat anything relating to that, will make me highly angry", Am open, but "lies, deceptions, confusing statements/body displays, and any form of cruelty", ARE MY BIGGEST, AND WORST TURNOFFS...

Thanks anyway, u have been helpful my dear.

@dontgetmewrong on

"Because you are probably showing her the mirror when you act cold towards her. She thinks you may know something so she's worried when you act that way..trust me, her mind is racing. How does she act exactly when she gets these cold spells from you?"


Yes dear! When after she responded "in a way I dislike" about those issues, If then I decide to "mute and act cold, with short and cold answers", she tends to have a very sweet tongue, need to cuddling and smooching a lot, sits near a lot, talking smoothly about our family, future, very attentive when I talk about someone who has annoyed me at work and will sympathize me alot on that, her urge for sex with me increases dramatically(just waiting for me to push the red button - and she grabs me, but i'll act cold anyway for two to three days, though am so aggressive and impulsive on sex)!

When I tell her again after, I don't like these guys and the way u r involved with them, she will then "answer in a crying mood, are not my lovers, why don't u "understand" me honey?! She promises to severe all their connections - but still I catch her off-guard one day!

And since I can't forget something easily, I found myself relating her present issue with the past since they are from similar guys, now it got in my nerves and decided to put it in DxP hoping to get anyhelp, whether I should trust her with those guys or not. Coz its like she tends to forget herself sometimes, after I become "hot" and "warm" again!

^Well to be technical, only 2 Virgo Women replied and a Virgo Man.

I mean it's obvious that he doesn't want Virgo insight but whatever insight he can get. So if he takes something from all the posts, no matter the sign the posters are, good for him. Whatever helps him in any way or any direction.

We still don't know her side so anyone who is convinced she cheated or anyone who is firmly convinced she didn't cheat..are just running on assumptions.

There's a communication breakdown between them and has been like that for a while. A third neutral professional party can gauge the damage and assist them.

He just seems to be convinced that this woman will be secretive to anyone, even those who can approach her calmly. I doubt that. But if she is indeed a cheater, she will reject the marriage counselling idea or not put in any effort..at which point he has his answer.

Posted by Craig1980
My Virgo girlfriend of 2 years was unfaithful.. she cheated on me with a Scorpio dude.

Damn.

Sorry you ran into a disrespectful user Virgo. I know 2 like that too and they have no qualms or remorse whatsoever.

We don't speak of their existence in our Good Virgo Club.

Posted by Craig1980

Posted by Damnata

Posted by Craig1980
My Virgo girlfriend of 2 years was unfaithful.. she cheated on me with a Scorpio dude.

Damn.

Sorry you ran into a disrespectful user Virgo. I know 2 like that too and they have no qualms or remorse whatsoever.

We don't speak of their existence in our Good Virgo Club.

No it's fine. That was about 12 years ago, so I'm pretty much over it. My current girlfriend is a Capricorn, and she seems to be very trustworthy.

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I have the opposite experience with Capricorns. I don't know one in real life who wasn't a cheater.

It just keeps driving home the idea that cheating has nothing to do with astrology.

Loyal people ftw.

@SapphireMaiden on

"...THAT and avoid also barraging on her too much of your emotional insecurities about things that were not yet proven true cuz "personally" I find it emotionally draining to confide into someone that can be tempestuous while having a discussion over trifling things (like that brother/Whatsapp issue)."

Thank you!!(*sighing *)
Virgo girls are so good, honest - and not "emotionally draining" individuals...JUST PERFECT & ORGANIZED souls! I, fiery PISCES however, am too "barraging" for a Virgoan!
Thanks dear! I understand u now!

Posted by Kim11180560
There are times that we do cheat... But rarely if ever..

Wow! This is getting interesting by the minute!

Posted by Hiccup

Posted by Kim11180560
There are times that we do cheat... But rarely if ever..

Wow! This is getting interesting by the minute!

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by the minute? you could have said by the second..but decided to be less overdramatic.

i appreciate that.

Posted by Damnata


by the minute? you could have said by the second..but decided to be less overdramatic.

i appreciate that.

hahaha!
U know Damnata, tbh, I feel somehow better and relaxed a bit! I was desperate to get it out of my chest, and you guys have helped to exchange some ideas & challenges, at least now I know for sure what to do next!
Because I love her sincerely with all respect, I had to be patient, trying hard to understand her, but still loving her, respect, caring and treat her well. Wasn't in a haste to "act according" to my doubts!

Posted by Kim11180560
Patience is key with a Virgo.

Yes, but a relationship is not only about fulfilling OUR needs. Virgos forget sometimes the other person also expects their needs to be fulfilled by the Virgo. The Virgo woman in this story is clearly totally unaware of her husband's needs, let alone fulfilling them.

Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom

Posted by Kim11180560
Patience is key with a Virgo.

Yes, but a relationship is not only about fulfilling OUR needs. Virgos forget sometimes the other person also expects their needs to be fulfilled by the Virgo. The Virgo woman in this story is clearly totally unaware of her husband's needs, let alone fulfilling them.

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He brought up needs that do go fulfilled so she is aware of some of them.

sorry, should have bolded "totally"

Dont focus on petty details, point in case is...his main needs arent being taken into account/fulfilled. The Virgo woman simply throws tantrums to avoid dealing with the truth.

Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
Dont focus on petty details, point in case is...his main needs arent being taken into account/fulfilled. The Virgo woman simply throws tantrums to avoid dealing with the truth.

I am not focusing on petty details, you are talking in absolutes.

Read his posts on things where his needs do go fulfilled. This man didn't say that she doesn't give a shit about him or doesn't have sex with or isn't romantic with him..he didn't pain a picture of someone entirely oblivious to their partner needs.

On this issue alone, I agree with you. She's avoiding it. Which is something that both a Virgo who cheats would do and a Virgo who is offended by their partner's mistrust in them and the way they approach it. Not saying she couldn't deal with it better because she could and should, since she is a partner in that relationship. Still a communication breakdown.

We become better with age 😛 give them youngsters some time.

Virgo chick, don't get defensive.

You spoke your mind, other posters spoke their mind too. That's all there is to it. You won't get them to understand your point of view and it doesn't matter in the end because they live in their reality and you live in yours.

They are entitled to any opinion they have. Don't go overboard in explanations..it's a fine line to martyrdom from there on out.

It's not about CC or anyone. You can keep replying or not. Just don't take it to heart or be defensive.

I'm trying really hard not to take Shakas's 5 years difference personal as well or I'd be crushed by how compelling that argument is. But he just loves trolling Virgals so I shall let him be. And we need more Virgo men on this board to brave the hoards of women. He just comes by once in a while, the cheeky one.

Eating my popcorn

@CluelessCancer on

"im not trolling you. You're an icey sociopath....My warmth heals. Your cold hurts."


No need for that fellow water!

SapphireMaiden is right in some sense, her standing and reaction is "not being rude", but she believes in a certain cause! I read something recently about DECCANS, every sign are three DECCANS, with differing opinions and approach to life. So let her be, EVEN IF SHE SAYING OF ME "AM EMOTIOANALLY DRAINING" sun sign, but also u r free to air your OWN views CC!

Even we PISCES are in three decans as well as my other fellow water signs. I think am in SECOND deccan, while my wife is in THIRD Deccan close to "my difficult-to-get-along" LIBRANS. Librans are good, but I personally find it difficult in conversations, especially heated topics, they can "argue strongly that they have done nothing wrong" even if apparently everybody has witnessed what they've done. But am not suggesting my wife has some Libran's traits, NO, but trying to elaborate that let SapphireMaiden be, on her own she is right on what she says.

Yes am undeniably emotional, thats what I use to show my love, care, undivided attention, patience, and "emotional security" to my wife, THAT'S WHAT SHE LOVED ME FOR, AND GOT MARRIED, if she would think AM EMOTIONALLY DRAINING, WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN TOGETHER SINCE THEN!

That's why WHEN AM ACTING COLD for her responses, she will do anything to make sure "AM BECOMING EMOTIONALLY DRAINING AGAIN", oky, lets say "warm" again! But then sometimes letter she tends to forget!

The hilarious part would be quoting CC on "my warmth heals" and then quote dozens of nasty as fuck replies she posted for people.

Ain't no irony like water irony.

Speaking of, it's Virgos who are Healers..you'd have to look into astrology to see that.

Cancers nurture.

CC, where do you draw the line between nurturing and enabling?

I find people with cancer placements struggle with that a lot. My Cancer friend was sweet as pie and totally devoted to her retarded ex..he preyed on that shit.

@dontgetmewrong on

"Scorched earth, you're a taurus. Out of the earth signs, you are the most relaxed and down to earth...Taurus is more inclined to show their emotions and they can just chill too."

Girl, u r absolutely right!
Just to add, Taurus girls are so fixed and strict on my perception. I had one young friend, she was a Taurus....Girl, its like we were addicted to having conversation "all the time", good ones, sometimes even talking on phones more than two hours even 3 times per day, and chatting a lot! She was also a girl I was thinking to marry too when I first noticed my wife(girlfriend at that time) and was courting her, but I strictly restrained my self from having sexual encounters with this Taurus girl - because i knew I had to carefully choose btn the TWO, BUT NOT PLAYING WITH ANYONE'S HEART. As I was courting my wife, I had to gv my self time to resolve my emotions so that I discover where my heart really belongs btn the two...so at the end of good 4 months I made up my mind and chose the VIRGIN! I had to slow down in conversation with a Taurenian girl, she really was consistent in conversation, but only was "unpredictable", and "kept me in the dark" about her decision on marriage. I felt her emotions, her passion though, but my VIRGOAN went "along" with my plans and was open for marriage and we talked about it freely, she has got this "childish & innocent" look that further led me to choose her!

@dontgetmewrong on

"Hiccup-I have a virgo (male & female,separate relationships) friend who did stop cheating on their spouses after going to counseling. They know they are doing wrong, and like I've posted on separate occasions, it's bc they are most likely filling a void when they do decide to cheat. Give it a try, and observe what changes come of it in her and your relationship. Good luck to you."

Thank you very much dear, I will absolutely do that, infact i have already gathered contacts of Marriage Counsellors then I will organize for one with good reputation, after everything is prepared, i'll have my wife in good conversation to visit there! I think I will post what has happened after sometime on this Virgo forum in DxP.

Posted by Damnata
Speaking of, it's Virgos who are Healers..you'd have to look into astrology to see that.

Cancers nurture.

You are right about that Damnata.

Posted by CluelessCancer

Posted by Damnata
CC, where do you draw the line between nurturing and enabling?

I find people with cancer placements struggle with that a lot. My Cancer friend was sweet as pie and totally devoted to her retarded ex..he preyed on that shit.

do i seem sweet to you? virgo said i got too much attitude.

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well you do have attitude.

thing is, my cancer girlfriends are very sarcastic and sassy about their men with us..but when their bfs are near they're all sweet. it's like you guys diss them a lot as a privacy/protection thing.

one of them messaged me after her first date with her ex boyfriend (they were together 4 years) : "god this moron is annoying me already".

so i don't listen to what cancers say about their partners..i look how they act around them. a softer edge to that tongue.