Aquarius Coworker Opens Up About Engagement Woes

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Hello there Water - Bearers,



The Aquarius in question is a coworker of mine, of one month so far. His chart is as follows -

Aquarius Sun

Virgin Moon

Aquarius Mercury

Goat Venus

Libran Mars

Stinger Jupiter

Libran Saturn

Centaur Uranus

Centaur Neptune

Libran Pluto




For a while, it was rather difficult working with this Water - Bearer. He seemed all over the place, uncomfortable, and forgetful. However recently, he has finally let his guard down after my gentle coaxing and gaining of his trust. It took me a while to realise how sensitive he is, surprisingly so, he has to be treated gently, more than I would others. He is logical in abstract concepts, but very sensitive regarding interpersonal connections. He was not as valuable a team player before, but he has since become much better as I have figured out his work patterns by getting to know him and his personality a bit more.

However, when he opened up, he more than opened up. He told me about his past, his childhood, his reckless days, his regrets, his family, his friends, his hobbies, his losses, his past and recent relationship, etc. There were a lot of common ground in our backgrounds, which made it easier for us to relate to one another. For all that closed up, wound up, tightness, suddenly this flow of information came out of him. After it all, he even said I have never felt this good in a while, I feel like I owe you something. That comment confused me, as a Stinger, we often merely listen.

Although, this is where it gets rather confusing. In all that he shared, we also spoke of our respective significant others. He has a Mermaid SO, whilst I have a Virgent SO. After sharing the initial stories, regarding how we met each other, our stories, and pasts etc. He asked a few questions, simple ones, but he was not keen to hear more about my SO, and quickly moved on to talk about his own. He proposed to her about a month ago (a week before he became my coworker). Politely as anyone would, I asked how they met, their story, the proposal, the wedding details etc. He told me, but throughout it all he seemed rather unenthusiastic and stressed more than anything else.

Then it hit, he is having regrets and doubts. He had only known his Mermaid SO for two years, because he was noticing everyone around him getting married, settling, having children. I assume the pressure got to him, or he felt it was time since his Mermaid SO has hinted at it for a long while. Therefore, he simply went out, got a ring, and proposed but he has woken up from the stupor of it all and realised he has a lot of issues with her. They have already booked, planned, and partially paid for their destination wedding, told friends and family, therefore taking it all back would be very difficult.

It was a dam broken loose, he said he no longer felt like himself anymore. He has had to submit to her and her whims because she is rather possessive and controlling. She had made him cut contact with life long friends (male and female), and even his best female friend which he had known for a greater part of his life. As we all know, to Water - Bearers, friends are equivalent to family, he even said so himself. He said she took away a greater part of what makes him, him. She only lets him keep the friends she approves of. He is worried about living with her, whether marrying her would be the right choice given how caged up he already feels now. He keeps reminiscent of the past, of being himself. When I heard this, I found it strangely sad, to see someone unable to be who he wants to be but has to change himself into someone he is not, because he wants his SO happy, thereby making himself miserable.

He wants to be independent, free to a degree, spontaneous, and an individual ... traits of a Water - Bearer, essentially. Yet, she wants full control, to the point that she could not go for an hour without contact with him. At work, everyone notices how he has his phone attached to him, because she expects replies from him constantly so. God forbid, he ever disappeared for a few hours, to enjoy time by himself, for himself. He keeps telling me, I do not know, the trust is not there. I have been very patient with her, I would not betray her, but she is making me doubt everything and I am not sure if this will ever change. I could only submit for so long before I explode.

Advice, he kept asking me for it. Considering, I do not know him for long enough, nor have I heard her side of the story I could hardly give non biased advice. Therefore, I listened to him and gave a woman's point of view of certain situations more so than advice itself. When he kept repeating his doubts, I kept reminding him that he chose her, that he loved her enough to propose, and that he is marrying her - no ? He only had this sad doubtful look on his face.

He also told me positive traits about her, but he seems to try to convince himself that she is good enough, and tried to convince me that she has good qualities too. I have never heard anyone try that hard to convince someone to believe that he believes she is good.



Why would he open up, suddenly, like this ? ... because it is confusing and I do not know how to best support this coworker. Is he looking for a friend to rely on at work ? ... because I did notice once he is much more comfortable, he works far better. What does he want and what would you advise me do ?



[For a fact, I know Water - Bearers would never truly open up like this unless if they have a degree of trust in you / they feel safe / comfortable around you.]
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Hello there Water - Bearers,



The Aquarius in question is a coworker of mine, of one month so far. His chart is as follows -

Aquarius Sun

Virgin Moon

Aquarius Mercury

Goat Venus

Libran Mars

Stinger Jupiter

Libran Saturn

Centaur Uranus

Centaur Neptune

Libran Pluto



I hate having to really pay attention and guess what these mean! It takes away from the whole damn topic. -_-
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Hello there Water - Bearers,



The Aquarius in question is a coworker of mine, of one month so far. His chart is as follows -

Aquarius Sun

Virgin Moon

Aquarius Mercury

Goat Venus

Libran Mars

Stinger Jupiter

Libran Saturn

Centaur Uranus

Centaur Neptune

Libran Pluto



I hate having to really pay attention and guess what these mean! It takes away from the whole damn topic. -_-

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This is an Astrology Forum, someone would be bound to ask what his chart is.

Ah saggurl88, I might as well be up front, and give it from the get go.
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Posted by aquarius_man
if he opens up it means u r a reliable listener who can keep a secret. also, he might find u sexy + plus he s realising that the wedding is really happening, he feels cornered. he needs someone who can listen him, someone he feels safe around. however, is he telling u all that about the woman he's gonna marry? his bride-to-be? and you're listening? what kind of ppl r u ? 🙂

ps - what's with scorpio fem & aqua males flirting at work? u see them everywhere


There is an energy of regret around him, he tried to hide it, until he gave up and I could see it in his eyes. In certain ways I feel bad for him, however I myself, am not one who is fond of the concept of marriage, therefore his discussion of engagements / weddings etc. I entertained because I am polite. Also, I do want to get to known him better, as coworkers. I listen because I felt he really needed / wanted to talk to someone.

The woman he keeps talking about is his fiancée.

We barely know each other. Let me correct that, he proposed to his SO one month ago, and we only know each other for three weeks. We work closely together, we are on the same team / department / group or whatever you would call it.

He is telling me about everything, his past, childhood, family, friends, personal losses, regrets, SO, engagement issues, relationship problems, their arguments, his worries etc.
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Posted by aquarius_man
and i think u find him intriguing

otherwise u wouldn't dedicate a thread to him

but hey this is just my opinion, i dont know anything about astrology charts
Of course, I find him intriguing.

He is a coworker I work with every day, besides my love of dissecting people on a general whole, he is a close range specimen of analysis.

My curiosity in regards to how people function, and their personalities always interests me. Be it someone I work with, or a stranger. I want to know how their minds work.

Also, his sudden openness is not within his previous pattern of uptight, self protective, wound up closeness, which is why I am as confused as I am. It does not fit.
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Hello there Water - Bearers,



The Aquarius in question is a coworker of mine, of one month so far. His chart is as follows -

Aquarius Sun

Virgin Moon

Aquarius Mercury

Goat Venus

Libran Mars

Stinger Jupiter

Libran Saturn

Centaur Uranus

Centaur Neptune

Libran Pluto



I hate having to really pay attention and guess what these mean! It takes away from the whole damn topic. -_-

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Dear saggurl88, did you have any advice to offer ?
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Posted by TheLadyScorpio....




it's almost as if he regrets he proposed to her before he met you. you and many other intriguing girls out there.

he's having second thoughts because he realizes he's gonna miss out on all these women, while getting stuck in a marriage with someone he doesnt seem to love

the stuff he's sharing with you is too intimate even for one's inner circle, let alone a work colleague

i mean aquas can be friendly, but this friendly? with a woman? they barely met?

an aqua opens up and tells u personal stories of war not just because u provide the ear, but also because this is how he woos

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Oh.

I never saw it that way. He has always been very respectful in regards to my personal space / boundaries so I am a bit surprised you said that.

Yes, that is precisely it, that was the word; intimate. No wonder why I found it confusing, he even told me about his own flaws. He offloaded on me, which was why when he felt lighter and happier, whereas I felt confused and weighed down as if now I have a burden of someone else's story in which I must protect and keep. For the life of me, I still do not understand why he feels he owes me something.

I would never know, you lot seem to be extremely friendly with everyone (at least from my experience of Water - Bearers in the past), I thought he simply needed to spill, and I happened to be the target in range.

He is freshly engaged, I doubt he would go about woo - ing others. 😐

Now, I am even more thoroughly confused. Bloody Hell.
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I would never know, you lot seem to be extremely friendly with everyone (at least from my experience of Water - Bearers in the past), I thought he simply needed to spill, and I happened to be the target in range.


oh but i am not friendly with everyone, im 'selectively social' 😄

of course he needed to spill, and of course you were within earshot, but it's you he picked, not another colleague

he likes u as a friend. better ? 🙂



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Since he talked about his past, I also shared a bit about my own including someone I presume you could call my Water - Bearer ex, who eerily have some of the same life stories, events, habits, movements, like and dislikes as he does. It was uncanny.

He said in jest - are you sure that was not me ?

Which was rather funny, however that Water - Bearer of my past, it did not end well. Strangely enough, he said since you have had a Water - Bearer ex, care to share what the experience was like from the woman's side, and advice ?

Our team / department is rather small, I am the only female within it.
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also, do u chat daily at work? who initiates 1st contact?


We chat when we are not busy with work. Otherwise, I am very work focused and professional, keeping him in line with our project loads etc.

All this has only happened in the past few days.

There is not really anyone who initiates, we simply just talk. Although he does love throwing out random information out there, to see how I respond. It could be a news article, or something he saw the other day, etc. and it segues out from there.



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Posted by NymphGoddess
To start off it seems like he regrets not having met uou before he got engaged. Also i think this is dangerous teritory for you both. It seems like youre growing interest in him seems more than you care tonadmit.
Interested ? No.

Intrigued ? Yes.

Does my SO know all of this ? Yes.

I am human NymphGoddess, I will be intrigued by others, just as my SO will. It would be a lie, if I said I never felt attraction or chemistry with another individual to my SO, but where I choose my loyalties is where my commitment lies. That is what is most important at the end of the day.

No boundaries has been crossed, so I still see him as a intriguing friendly coworker until you lot pointed out to me all the rest, which explains why I felt strange, like a burden was dropped on me for me to carry.

Therefore now, I am confused.

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Hello there Water - Bearers,



The Aquarius in question is a coworker of mine, of one month so far. His chart is as follows -

Aquarius Sun

Virgin Moon

Aquarius Mercury

Goat Venus

Libran Mars

Stinger Jupiter

Libran Saturn

Centaur Uranus

Centaur Neptune

Libran Pluto



I hate having to really pay attention and guess what these mean! It takes away from the whole damn topic. -_-


Dear saggurl88, did you have any advice to offer ?

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No sorry. It's all lost in translation for me.
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Posted by Ellygant
You've known his three weeks and he unloaded this on you?

Yeah. Keep a far distance. Sounds like he's freaked out about his engagement and using your place in his life as a litmus test for if he wants to truly commit. I'd say it's less about liking you specifically and more about realizing that marriage means he's never allowed to like anyone like that again, except this one person.

Every Aqua I know has moments of fear like that in their relationships when they come up on serious commitments. Moving in. Engagement. Marriage. Children.

Just don't be the one to get caught up in it. They are very sweet and gentle underneath it. And very serious about their emotions.
Yes Elly, this has been a recent event. In fact, this has only happened in the last two days.

Previously, he had been rather closed off whilst at the same time asking a lot of questions about me. At the time, honestly it felt like an interrogation because there was no basic reciprocation. As a fellow Stinger you know how we would feel about that, we would merely shut down.

Precisely, he sounded like someone who is suddenly overly anxious, unsure, and letting fear corrupt whatever he is feeling for his SO. Which should not have been my burden to bear, but he offloaded, and I listened only because I sincerely believed he needed someone to talk to. I have had a Water - Bearer ex, in the past, I remember those moments of fear they have, where they question everything.

He is sweet and gentle, I am quite sure of it, very sensitive, more so than any other supposedly 'soft' signs out there. In fact, that is why I had to treat him with kid gloves as a coworker because I had to figure out his personality to make it work for me. It took a lot of gentle coaxing and encouragements (professionally, work related) in order to get him to be efficient and for a lack of a better word, useful.

I did my best to confirm, and parrot back to him that he chose her, he chose to propose to her, he must love her very much to have decided to do so, and he will be marrying her soon. He always got to hear me speak of my SO, he does not fancy it that much but I always tell him so as to draw a line.

This will be a difficult situation, because we also have many partnerships projects together. A far distance would not be possible, but an even firmer boundary perhaps. He is not a personality that works well with a cold and detached coworker, unfortunately so. In fact, everything is out the window once he is uncomfortable, nothing will be done. Professionally, he is not as capable therefore I have to work with whatever strengths he has got to get him to achieve what I need done.

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Since he talked about his past, I also shared a bit about my own including someone I presume you could call my Water - Bearer ex, who eerily ...It was uncanny.

...

Our team / department is rather small, I am the only female within it.
ok, so he might ve picked u coz u r the only female available

i dont know but i would stop encouraging him if i were u

if hes about to get married, thats not the way to behave towards a work colleague

who on top of it finds him intriguing

ure feeding his fear of commitment by showing him there are still women who can 'get' him - women like yourself

but he is flirting w you, know this

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aquarius_man, but I have never encouraged him. He simply chose to offload on me.

It actually took me by surprised that he would open up and spill his engagement woes with me like so. By the time I realised what he was doing, all I could do was listen. Prior to it, I was being polite and social, asking the typical questions of someone who just got engaged and planning a wedding. I did the expected thing, asking the right list of questions, the usual.

He is getting married in April of next year.

His fear of commitment is on him, I am being social and friendly. I have had my share of engaged and married male friends, simply because I understood them, it did not mean I had nefarious intents. In fact, they love being able to speak with someone they trusted. It would be unfair, to blame me, for relating to his upbringing, or his childhood, or his past, or his family. That is just conversation, being social which is completely innocent.

I still cannot see how this is flirting, is offloading on someone, treating them like a therapist equivalent to flirting ?

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@TheLadyScorpio ask your boyfriend to visit you at the office. and call you more often during office hours and be very sweet and loving to him on the phone 🙂)))))

once he feels your bf s presence hell understand better than any words

dont let a man cross ur private space only because you need to work together

if he s an adult, he will have to sort out his mess by himself AND focus on work anyway, that s his job

stop encouraging him be nice and polite and nothing more

pretend u dont know him =)))))
He often sees or hears me on the phone with my SO, during breaks or lunch etc.

That was nothing new, he knows this.

I do not need to pretend to be more sweet or loving towards my SO, because every phone call with him always brightens up my day.

His offloading, left me with his burden of an emotional weight that I have no idea what to do with, a responsibility which was not there before.

I am not encouraging him, being a good listener is also apart of being a decent coworker, until I find listening is no longer benefitting me.

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You've known his three weeks and he unloaded this on you?

Yeah. Keep a far distance. Sounds like he's freaked out about his engagement and using your place in his life as a litmus test for if he wants to truly commit. I'd say it's less about liking you specifically and more about realizing that marriage means he's never allowed to like anyone like that again, except this one person.

Every Aqua I know has moments of fear like that in their relationships when they come up on serious commitments. Moving in. Engagement. Marriage. Children.

Just don't be the one to get caught up in it. They are very sweet and gentle underneath it. And very serious about their emotions.
That right there. Bingo.

It starts with intrigue and then the interest grows. Just be careful. There are two sides to every story. Him unloading/sharing his worries like that can be very disarming and yes, very intriguing. As you now feel burdened and sort of sorry for his predicament. It could allow him to get closer to you somehow and vice versa.

It's an IN for him.

If things aren't working out then he needs to do what's best for him, not involve you in his unfolding story or try to jump off to you.

Talk about your partner and how much you love him, etc. Be sure he's very clear on the lines. You may be clear but he might not be.
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Rightly so Caplove, I always believe there are two sides of every story and I even told him, I have not heard her side therefore it would be wrong of me to offer advice. It is disarming, yet at the same time a heavy weight which I am suddenly responsible for and it is surprisingly taxing. Never would I have guessed, he would use this as a way of getting closer, especially when he hears me speak of my SO rather often.

An IN for him ? What do you mean by that ?

I do, I talk about my SO quite a bit, especially once he started spilling about his fiancée. At first he listened, then he tried to push the conversation about him away or make me stop and I was not having it.
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Posted by Impulsv
He's looking to be saved

How sad to give up on our own power

He should call it off!

In a serious tone

Refer him to counseling
Impulsv, saved by who ? a taken woman, especially one who is equally as happy to tell him about her own SO ?

Sad is it not, to have to give up on oneself, to make an engagement work because she wanted it and because everyone he knows is almost all settled with a few children or child already.

That is quite good advice in fact, I very well might refer him to counselling.
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Is it just me or does it feel like you're not just intrigued, but may like him too? Giiiiirrrllll RUN!!!! While you can?! My Scorp and I started like this at work... both separated within weeks... I was married to a merguy and him a virgentile....... this is dangerous for sure and could turn into more than just conversing. @Aqua_man it's not just Scorp women & Aqua Men, but Scorp men & Aqua women at work that's stirring sh*^ up! Is it inevitable?
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Is it just me or does it feel like you're not just intrigued, but may like him too? Giiiiirrrllll RUN!!!! While you can?! My Scorp and I started like this at work... both separated within weeks... I was married to a merguy and him a virgentile....... this is dangerous for sure and could turn into more than just conversing. @Aqua_man it's not just Scorp women & Aqua Men, but Scorp men & Aqua women at work that's stirring sh*^ up! Is it inevitable?
nah. that's another aqua co-worker not this one haha
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Is it just me or does it feel like you're not just intrigued, but may like him too? Giiiiirrrllll RUN!!!! While you can?! My Scorp and I started like this at work... both separated within weeks... I was married to a merguy and him a virgentile....... this is dangerous for sure and could turn into more than just conversing. @Aqua_man it's not just Scorp women & Aqua Men, but Scorp men & Aqua women at work that's stirring sh*^ up! Is it inevitable?
nah. that's another aqua co-worker not this one haha
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?? kiss ALL of my **£
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Is it just me or does it feel like you're not just intrigued, but may like him too? Giiiiirrrllll RUN!!!! While you can?! My Scorp and I started like this at work... both separated within weeks... I was married to a merguy and him a virgentile....... this is dangerous for sure and could turn into more than just conversing. @Aqua_man it's not just Scorp women & Aqua Men, but Scorp men & Aqua women at work that's stirring sh*^ up! Is it inevitable?
nah. that's another aqua co-worker not this one haha
?? kiss ALL of my **£

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Is it just me or does it feel like you're not just intrigued, but may like him too? Giiiiirrrllll RUN!!!! While you can?! My Scorp and I started like this at work... both separated within weeks... I was married to a merguy and him a virgentile....... this is dangerous for sure and could turn into more than just conversing. @Aqua_man it's not just Scorp women & Aqua Men, but Scorp men & Aqua women at work that's stirring sh*^ up! Is it inevitable?
nah. that's another aqua co-worker not this one haha
?? kiss ALL of my **£


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But you're married to a Scorp so YOU truly know how this works
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Is it just me or does it feel like you're not just intrigued, but may like him too? Giiiiirrrllll RUN!!!! While you can?! My Scorp and I started like this at work... both separated within weeks... I was married to a merguy and him a virgentile....... this is dangerous for sure and could turn into more than just conversing. @Aqua_man it's not just Scorp women & Aqua Men, but Scorp men & Aqua women at work that's stirring sh*^ up! Is it inevitable?
nah. that's another aqua co-worker not this one haha
?? kiss ALL of my **£


😄

But you're married to a Scorp so YOU truly know how this works

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but i believe ladyscorpio is faithful enough to her virgent 😄
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Is it just me or does it feel like you're not just intrigued, but may like him too? Giiiiirrrllll RUN!!!! While you can?! My Scorp and I started like this at work... both separated within weeks... I was married to a merguy and him a virgentile....... this is dangerous for sure and could turn into more than just conversing. @Aqua_man it's not just Scorp women & Aqua Men, but Scorp men & Aqua women at work that's stirring sh*^ up! Is it inevitable?
nah. that's another aqua co-worker not this one haha
?? kiss ALL of my **£


😄

But you're married to a Scorp so YOU truly know how this works


but i believe ladyscorpio is faithful enough to her virgent 😄
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While I believe so as well...@Aerialview why are you always "one-upping"? Your Aqua competition skills are so on point.
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Is it just me or does it feel like you're not just intrigued, but may like him too? Giiiiirrrllll RUN!!!! While you can?! My Scorp and I started like this at work... both separated within weeks... I was married to a merguy and him a virgentile....... this is dangerous for sure and could turn into more than just conversing. @Aqua_man it's not just Scorp women & Aqua Men, but Scorp men & Aqua women at work that's stirring sh*^ up! Is it inevitable?
nah. that's another aqua co-worker not this one haha
?? kiss ALL of my **£


😄

But you're married to a Scorp so YOU truly know how this works


but i believe ladyscorpio is faithful enough to her virgent 😄
While I believe so as well...@Aerialview why are you always "one-upping"? Your Aqua competition skills are so on point.

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am i? 😄

i have to think positive about scorpio women 😄 otherwise i'd go crazy.
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well honestly, he shouldnt be confiding in you for his doubts and problems, he should be confiding in his future wife. If the mermaid is very clingy and wants to know where his wherabouts are, im guessing it's because she is the one that needs absolute security and assuredness that he's gonna be there.

My husband's aunty was like that, married nearly two decades, and before she used to call her husband 8 x a day at work. It was the talk of the family dinners. lol how crazy she was, and that mother in law disapproved cause she doesn't approve of her brother being interrupted at work. If it's work, dont interrupt. lol Capricorns really hate that, to them work is work and you have a responsibility, no interrrupting unless its emergency.
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There is an energy of regret around him...He is telling me about everything... his worries etc.


this man likes u
I am very much taken, and he knows it. He heard all about my SO.

So ... What makes you say that ? 😐



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ohh i see, so you both confide in eachother about eachother's SO?



i wouldnt like that at all, talking about your man or woman is fine, with jokes and laughters on a superficial level.

but on a personal level like that...if i were in the mermaid's shoes, i'm gonna be super jealous and upset.

like why would he go to you and not to me?

i would even start crying alot.

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There is an energy of regret around him...He is telling me about everything... his worries etc.


this man likes u
I am very much taken, and he knows it. He heard all about my SO.

So ... What makes you say that ? 😐






ohh i see, so you both confide in eachother about eachother's SO?



i wouldnt like that at all, talking about your man or woman is fine, with jokes and laughters on a superficial level.

but on a personal level like that...if i were in the mermaid's shoes, i'm gonna be super jealous and upset.

like why would he go to you and not to me?

i would even start crying alot.




Because she's a manipulative control freak and he's reaching out to someone because he's trying to get a sense of reality, knowing that he can't cater to this chick his whole life because he's lost who he is and is ultimately emasculated and most probably depressed.

You do realise that the woman isn't a trophy in a relationship. It's not meant to be all about her and what hurts her feelings or makes her insecure, right?

People do talk about their partners at work. It is normal.
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yes on a superficial level. they do talk about their partners but never on a personal level,

superficial like in, Yes,me and my wife are going to this event and this and that....or yes, my wife packed me my lunches all the time.

but nothing PERSONAL.

and this guy is not ready for an emotionally deep relationship of making his partner feel safe and happy.

he sounds like he likes the woman for even asking her to marry him,

but he's so conflicted.

I remember an article on Justin Timberlake, that he was so conflicted about Jennifer Beale before they got engaged.

they were already dating a long time, and then things got so serious. But he couldnt "quit" her, no matter how much he tried. lol

he was really fighting for what's inside him and what he desired. Like he couldn't understand this feeling...



they broke up in 2011, but they were dating for years before that..

and finally he went back to her because he can't live without her. And together ever since.



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He sounds like a coward.

He just let his fiancée control his existence only to complain about it right before getting married?

Why even propose?

Because she wanted to get married?

Brilliant.
When a man treats a woman like this, it's called abuse.

When a woman treats a man like this, he's considered a coward.


No. Not in this case Arielle.

Man or woman it doesn't matter, you made the distinction.

Reverse the roles I wouldn't say she's " abused" either.

I never got the impression that he's afraid of his fiancée.

So

again, he's a coward for going along and proposing when he's apparently very unhappy and dreading his life changing.
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exactly.

say what you mean and mean what you say.

if you're gonna be wanting to marry, and this is a VOW...

and i'm not talking about separations and divorces here,

then, don't back up and start gossiping to the worker lady about your personal life, talk to your own wife.



that's why i didnt see anything wrong with what Justin Timberlake did in my examples, they broke up for that period of time but he didnt ask her to marry him UNTIL he returned to her



from article, when he asked her out on a date:

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/justin-timberlake-talks-about-marriage-making-jessica-biel-happy-2012410

"I did it the old fashioned way -- by telephone," Timberlake continued at the press conference. "That's something I learned from both my stepdad and my grandfather -- that there is a thing called chivalry and it doesn't have to die with the birth of the internet. The way I see it, if you're asking a girl out on a date, it's only right to do it in a way that she can hear your voice. I had to be pretty persistent in order to get her to say yes. But I have a fair amount of tenacity and if I want something I stick to it. And in the end she agreed."



and about his influence of marriage ideals (I think this is his Libra dominant talking of partnership) lol



"Though the former 'N Sync singer wouldn't go into details about his own wedding, he did share his thoughts about what he believes is required to sustain and happy marriage. "I think it's important to remember that you go into something like marriage knowing that you don't know very much about it at all. But I do look at the marriage of my mother and stepdad, and what makes it work for them is that it's a team effort."
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You've known his three weeks and he unloaded this on you?

Yeah. Keep a far distance. Sounds like he's freaked out about his engagement and using your place in his life as a litmus test for if he wants to truly commit. I'd say it's less about liking you specifically and more about realizing that marriage means he's never allowed to like anyone like that again, except this one person.

Every Aqua I know has moments of fear like that in their relationships when they come up on serious commitments. Moving in. Engagement. Marriage. Children.

Just don't be the one to get caught up in it. They are very sweet and gentle underneath it. And very serious about their emotions.
That right there. Bingo.

It starts with intrigue and then the interest grows. Just be careful. There are two sides to every story. Him unloading/sharing his worries like that can be very disarming and yes, very intriguing. As you now feel burdened and sort of sorry for his predicament. It could allow him to get closer to you somehow and vice versa.

It's an IN for him.

If things aren't working out then he needs to do what's best for him, not involve you in his unfolding story or try to jump off to you.

Talk about your partner and how much you love him, etc. Be sure he's very clear on the lines. You may be clear but he might not be.
Rightly so Caplove, I always believe there are two sides of every story and I even told him, I have not heard her side therefore it would be wrong of me to offer advice. It is disarming, yet at the same time a heavy weight which I am suddenly responsible for and it is surprisingly taxing. Never would I have guessed, he would use this as a way of getting closer, especially when he hears me speak of my SO rather often.

An IN for him ? What do you mean by that ?

I do, I talk about my SO quite a bit, especially once he started spilling about his fiancée. At first he listened, then he tried to push the conversation about him away or make me stop and I was not having it.


An "IN" as in maybe you've softened towards him a tad and now he's got a little thing for you. He can share more because you're at that level w/ very private information. It's a way for him to get closer to you if it's not kept in check.

I'm not saying he's done it on purpose w/ that intent but it's drawn him to you. Your guard is down. Luckily for him (and his fiance), you seem like a solid person and have good intentions.

Yes, I do think he'll always want to steer the convo. away from your SO. That would probably put a damper on his budding fantasies of you. 😄 The suggestion by@Impulsv to recommend a counselor was a good one.

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lol she has a lot of patience.

maybe the guy wants to push her virgo man away and replace himself.

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Is it just me or does it feel like you're not just intrigued, but may like him too? Giiiiirrrllll RUN!!!! While you can?! My Scorp and I started like this at work... both separated within weeks... I was married to a merguy and him a virgentile....... this is dangerous for sure and could turn into more than just conversing. @Aqua_man it's not just Scorp women & Aqua Men, but Scorp men & Aqua women at work that's stirring sh*^ up! Is it inevitable?
Honestly Wineaux15, I do not know what to think anymore.

What I am mostly trying to do, is not think, because it is not getting me anywhere. The sudden burden and baggage of another is too much for me to handle with my own life to deal with.

It was unfair.

Frankly, I would love to disappear and brood.

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No, I no longer want to know what he is thinking or what he admires or advise him.

The fact that he merely spilled all that he did on me, has made my world topsy turvy.

I did not need that as it is, but he did as he did, and now I no longer know what I think.

I regretted having listened to him, now the burden is unbearable.


Omg get a grip little girl. —

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What I am mostly trying to do, is not think, because it is not getting me anywhere. The sudden burden and baggage of another is too much for me to handle with my own life to deal with.

It was unfair.

Frankly, I would love to disappear and brood.


don t let yourself used by this man

why did you let him get close to you

why let his own life decisions affect you?

do you think you could 'save' him?

don't.

just let him be and pay more attention to ur own bf

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Trust me, @aquarius_man ... been there and done that, but left the shirt behind.

No, I see things very clearly and love my SO dearly.

I had good intentions, to create bonds with those I work with and it has always been this case with no issues. However, I did not expect him to share as much as he did.

That was where I failed, I should have stopped him, and not listened.

My desire to often make others feel better, ends up backfiring and harming who I am.

No, I have no interest in saving a man, that is a naive notion.

Men, cannot be saved, they could only choose to make decisions on their own.
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No, I no longer want to know what he is thinking or what he admires or advise him.

The fact that he merely spilled all that he did on me, has made my world topsy turvy.

I did not need that as it is, but he did as he did, and now I no longer know what I think.

I regretted having listened to him, now the burden is unbearable.


Omg get a grip little girl. —



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Of course, you are not the only one aware of how ridiculous this is.

I very much realise how utterly ridiculous this is, and am the very first person to acknowledge it.

In fact, I am ashamed at myself, this lack of self control in regards to my emotions.

However no matter how rational and logical I am, I am only human and very flawed.



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The fact that he merely spilled all that he did on me, has made my world topsy turvy.


this is the aquarian way. dont fall for it.

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what is his moon and venus?



that is more aquarius moon and venus men. lol

MOON or VENUS in AQUARIUS

The type of woman who attracts you is intelligent, independent, free-spirited, and a good conversationalist. Should she keep you guessing, or be a bit off-beat or unconventional, she'll fascinate you - but if she's too emotional, you'll pass.

Especially while young, you may be drawn to women who are not really available for a lasting relationship (because of distance or inability to make commitments, or a prior commitment to someone else).

To some degree, what you see here also applies if you have the Sun in the Sign of Aquarius. But for a man it is his Moon and Venus Signs which best indicate the types of woman he is most attracted to, or may choose for a mate, especially the Moon.



This is usually because you may not yet be ready to make lasting commitments, and value your "space" and freedom more than emotional bonds or truly intimate relationships.

When you are ready to commit, you will. Meanwhile, you may be attracted to "free spirits", "space cadets", or even somewhat "strange" women.


Idealists or rebels also have a particular appeal to you. Politics may play a part in the attraction. Political foes might make strange bedfellows. (continued)

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sounds like the OP's signature, that he's not ready to commit. lol
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Men, cannot be saved, they could only choose to make decisions on their own.
exactly

and remember aqua is a fixed sign, hence stubborn, rigid personality

don't indulge in the messiah complex & stop 'caring for him

ok, you let your guard down, you were dere for him but now it's time to resume your normal activities

you can still work together, just draw some boundaries

ps: if i were ur bf i would get kinda jealous of this guy at work 🙂
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It is not logical

It is not rational.

I myself out of everyone realises this, very much so.

No, I have no desire to save him, nor to care, however pesky emotions are in the air. Ones I do not need because it could potentially affect how I work.

My loyalty to my SO is something which I take very seriously, which makes it all the more difficult.

I would probably most likely have to think myself out of this, until my mind goes numb, and everything along with it.
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The fact that he merely spilled all that he did on me, has made my world topsy turvy.


this is the aquarian way. dont fall for it.


If so, then he has no respect for his SO. 😐

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didnt you just spill stuff over your SO about personal stuff with him too?

lol



that also means no respect too. 😆



that's cool guys, you are not perfect. I dont think you have feelings for him,and you and him probably want a therapy.



i wouldnt like it if my man talks to women at work with personal stuff, only business.



this guy really got close. it's very inappropriate.
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The fact that he merely spilled all that he did on me, has made my world topsy turvy.


this is the aquarian way. dont fall for it.


what is his moon and venus?



that is more aquarius moon and venus men. lol

MOON or VENUS in AQUARIUS

The type of woman who attracts you is intelligent, independent, free-spirited, and a good conversationalist. Should she keep you guessing, or be a bit off-beat or unconventional, she'll fascinate you - but if she's too emotional, you'll pass.

Especially while young, you may be drawn to women who are not really available for a lasting relationship (because of distance or inability to make commitments, or a prior commitment to someone else).

To some degree, what you see here also applies if you have the Sun in the Sign of Aquarius. But for a man it is his Moon and Venus Signs which best indicate the types of woman he is most attracted to, or may choose for a mate, especially the Moon.



This is usually because you may not yet be ready to make lasting commitments, and value your "space" and freedom more than emotional bonds or truly intimate relationships.

When you are ready to commit, you will. Meanwhile, you may be attracted to "free spirits", "space cadets", or even somewhat "strange" women.


Idealists or rebels also have a particular appeal to you. Politics may play a part in the attraction. Political foes might make strange bedfellows. (continued)

©2000-2017 by Michael Star







sounds like the OP's signature, that he's not ready to commit. lol

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You could view his entire chart, I had placed it in my original post.

Aquarius Sun

Virgin Moon

Aquarius Mercury

Goat Venus

Libran Mars etc...
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No, I told him about my SO but I never shared any of our troubles or anything of depth because I had no intentions of creating intimacy in that manner nor would I betray the trust of my SO.

However, he on the other hand, shared everything with me. He created this inappropriate atmosphere.

Also, he was content with not listening about my SO either after the initial conversation but I insisted to keep it appropriate.
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No, I no longer want to know what he is thinking or what he admires or advise him.

The fact that he merely spilled all that he did on me, has made my world topsy turvy.

I did not need that as it is, but he did as he did, and now I no longer know what I think.

I regretted having listened to him, now the burden is unbearable.
Ya I feel you.

Poor guy
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I feel empathy and sad for his situation but his is only one side of the story.

Though unlike you, I have no pity for him. He is a grown man, he could make the choice to leave for his own sanity if it truly is as bad as he claims.

Everyone has a choice to make, be it for regret or for happiness.
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The fact that he merely spilled all that he did on me, has made my world topsy turvy.


this is the aquarian way. dont fall for it.


what is his moon and venus?



that is more aquarius moon and venus men. lol

MOON or VENUS in AQUARIUS

The type of woman who attracts you is intelligent, independent, free-spirited, and a good conversationalist. Should she keep you guessing, or be a bit off-beat or unconventional, she'll fascinate you - but if she's too emotional, you'll pass.

Especially while young, you may be drawn to women who are not really available for a lasting relationship (because of distance or inability to make commitments, or a prior commitment to someone else).

To some degree, what you see here also applies if you have the Sun in the Sign of Aquarius. But for a man it is his Moon and Venus Signs which best indicate the types of woman he is most attracted to, or may choose for a mate, especially the Moon.



This is usually because you may not yet be ready to make lasting commitments, and value your "space" and freedom more than emotional bonds or truly intimate relationships.

When you are ready to commit, you will. Meanwhile, you may be attracted to "free spirits", "space cadets", or even somewhat "strange" women.


Idealists or rebels also have a particular appeal to you. Politics may play a part in the attraction. Political foes might make strange bedfellows. (continued)

©2000-2017 by Michael Star







sounds like the OP's signature, that he's not ready to commit. lol


You could view his entire chart, I had placed it in my original post.

Aquarius Sun

Virgin Moon

Aquarius Mercury

Goat Venus

Libran Mars etc...

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wow Virgo energy is really attracted to you...



oh my gosh!!! no wonder...



MOON or VENUS in VIRGO

To some degree, what you see here also applies if you have the Sun in the Sign of Virgo. But for a man it is his Moon and Venus Signs which best indicate the types of woman he is most attracted to, or may choose for a mate, especially the Moon.

The type of woman who attracts you looks neat and clean, or well-groomed and conservatively-dressed - and, above all, appears "proper". You want: intelligent, honest, healthy, reliable, modest, refined, efficient, practical, methodical, loyal and faithful...but you might settle for "perfect"!


Good manners and good taste are turn-ons for you, as are "competency" and skillfulness.

You can be slowly seduced by a woman who makes herself useful to you in ways that make you feel you cannot get along without her.



http://www.astrologyzine.com/attract-men.shtml



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@Arielle83



The fact that he merely spilled all that he did on me, has made my world topsy turvy.


this is the aquarian way. dont fall for it.


what is his moon and venus?



that is more aquarius moon and venus men. lol

MOON or VENUS in AQUARIUS

The type of woman who attracts you is intelligent, independent, free-spirited, and a good conversationalist. Should she keep you guessing, or be a bit off-beat or unconventional, she'll fascinate you - but if she's too emotional, you'll pass.

Especially while young, you may be drawn to women who are not really available for a lasting relationship (because of distance or inability to make commitments, or a prior commitment to someone else).

To some degree, what you see here also applies if you have the Sun in the Sign of Aquarius. But for a man it is his Moon and Venus Signs which best indicate the types of woman he is most attracted to, or may choose for a mate, especially the Moon.



This is usually because you may not yet be ready to make lasting commitments, and value your "space" and freedom more than emotional bonds or truly intimate relationships.

When you are ready to commit, you will. Meanwhile, you may be attracted to "free spirits", "space cadets", or even somewhat "strange" women.


Idealists or rebels also have a particular appeal to you. Politics may play a part in the attraction. Political foes might make strange bedfellows. (continued)

©2000-2017 by Michael Star







sounds like the OP's signature, that he's not ready to commit. lol


You could view his entire chart, I had placed it in my original post.

Aquarius Sun

Virgin Moon

Aquarius Mercury

Goat Venus

Libran Mars etc...


wow Virgo energy is really attracted to you...



oh my gosh!!! no wonder...



MOON or VENUS in VIRGO

To some degree, what you see here also applies if you have the Sun in the Sign of Virgo. But for a man it is his Moon and Venus Signs which best indicate the types of woman he is most attracted to, or may choose for a mate, especially the Moon.

The type of woman who attracts you looks neat and clean, or well-groomed and conservatively-dressed - and, above all, appears "proper". You want: intelligent, honest, healthy, reliable, modest, refined, efficient, practical, methodical, loyal and faithful...but you might settle for "perfect"!


Good manners and good taste are turn-ons for you, as are "competency" and skillfulness.

You can be slowly seduced by a woman who makes herself useful to you in ways that make you feel you cannot get along without her.



http://www.astrologyzine.com/attract-men.shtml





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I know, I attract earthy energies like no other.

Most especially Virgin, and at times, Goat.
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