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Posted by AerialViewπ funnyPosted by pisceswoman123Win without attorney πPosted by AerialViewPosted by STILLThat one sounds like Cap Venus Aqua π
Ok @AerialView & @Seleukos here's another one about you aqua guys.
This Aquarius man looks like Jeremy Meeks, so very good looking IMO. He spoiled me to death. As did the last Aquaman I told the story about. He was much more of an extrovert very rough around the edges.
He was very litigious. He would take people to court and vice versa, for various reasons and win without an attorney. One was against his landlord another one against a surgeon. I won't comment about any of the other court cases.
I would stay at his house for days at a time during summer vacay and I would not have sex with him and he never forced me to. I was a prude back then because I knew I would leave a man on the first strike. I didn't want a large body count. He would come home, we'd eat. Then he'd do that nice favor that I liked. π
Which part?
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Posted by pisceswoman123I'm dead serious π¬πPosted by AerialViewπ funnyPosted by pisceswoman123Win without attorney πPosted by AerialViewPosted by STILLThat one sounds like Cap Venus Aqua π
Ok @AerialView & @Seleukos here's another one about you aqua guys.
This Aquarius man looks like Jeremy Meeks, so very good looking IMO. He spoiled me to death. As did the last Aquaman I told the story about. He was much more of an extrovert very rough around the edges.
He was very litigious. He would take people to court and vice versa, for various reasons and win without an attorney. One was against his landlord another one against a surgeon. I won't comment about any of the other court cases.
I would stay at his house for days at a time during summer vacay and I would not have sex with him and he never forced me to. I was a prude back then because I knew I would leave a man on the first strike. I didn't want a large body count. He would come home, we'd eat. Then he'd do that nice favor that I liked. π
Which part?
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Posted by AerialViewDo you know I aqua with Cap Venus that win without attorney too? πππPosted by pisceswoman123I'm dead serious π¬πPosted by AerialViewπ funnyPosted by pisceswoman123Win without attorney πPosted by AerialViewPosted by STILLThat one sounds like Cap Venus Aqua π
Ok @AerialView & @Seleukos here's another one about you aqua guys.
This Aquarius man looks like Jeremy Meeks, so very good looking IMO. He spoiled me to death. As did the last Aquaman I told the story about. He was much more of an extrovert very rough around the edges.
He was very litigious. He would take people to court and vice versa, for various reasons and win without an attorney. One was against his landlord another one against a surgeon. I won't comment about any of the other court cases.
I would stay at his house for days at a time during summer vacay and I would not have sex with him and he never forced me to. I was a prude back then because I knew I would leave a man on the first strike. I didn't want a large body count. He would come home, we'd eat. Then he'd do that nice favor that I liked. π
Which part?
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Posted by AerialViewWhat part Aerial?Posted by STILLNot you but him.Posted by AerialViewWhat? the prude part?Posted by STILLThat one sounds like Cap Venus Aqua π
Ok @AerialView & @Seleukos here's another one about you aqua guys.
This Aquarius man looks like Jeremy Meeks, so very good looking IMO. He spoiled me to death. As did the last Aquaman I told the story about. He was much more of an extrovert very rough around the edges.
He was very litigious. He would take people to court and vice versa, for various reasons and win without an attorney. One was against his landlord another one against a surgeon. I won't comment about any of the other court cases.
I would stay at his house for days at a time during summer vacay and I would not have sex with him and he never forced me to. I was a prude back then because I knew I would leave a man on the first strike. I didn't want a large body count. He would come home, we'd eat. Then he'd do that nice favor that I liked. π
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Posted by AerialViewπππ Now you sound like my bfPosted by STILLAqua men win part.Posted by AerialViewWhy do you love this?Posted by nanoLol I love this π
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
Aqua men play by their own rules and quite frankly, dont seem to care if you're standing next to them or not. I don't see anywhere near the level of codependence I see with aqua women.
My sister is an aqua with an aqua. He let's her believe she wears the pants sometimes, but she does not, at all lol.
Aqua men win this one IMO
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Posted by pisceswoman123No but imagine Seleukos.Posted by AerialViewDo you know I aqua with Cap Venus that win without attorney too? πππPosted by pisceswoman123I'm dead serious π¬πPosted by AerialViewπ funnyPosted by pisceswoman123Win without attorney πPosted by AerialViewPosted by STILLThat one sounds like Cap Venus Aqua π
Ok @AerialView & @Seleukos here's another one about you aqua guys.
This Aquarius man looks like Jeremy Meeks, so very good looking IMO. He spoiled me to death. As did the last Aquaman I told the story about. He was much more of an extrovert very rough around the edges.
He was very litigious. He would take people to court and vice versa, for various reasons and win without an attorney. One was against his landlord another one against a surgeon. I won't comment about any of the other court cases.
I would stay at his house for days at a time during summer vacay and I would not have sex with him and he never forced me to. I was a prude back then because I knew I would leave a man on the first strike. I didn't want a large body count. He would come home, we'd eat. Then he'd do that nice favor that I liked. π
Which part?
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Posted by vixen14Hahaha, I do that too πPosted by AerialViewI know when to play submissive and play the cards right so in the event something major comes up, I throw a Jack π down and get what I want when it matters. Lol π¬ it works most of the timePosted by vixen14Explain please πPosted by nanoLmao π yeah. I can be like that too and βpretendβ like my Aries has the power. But in reality I doPosted by vixen14You remember hearing me bitch about those coworkers all the time π They use work shifts and thus me as catharsis of their oppressionPosted by nano
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
Aqua men play by their own rules and quite frankly, dont seem to care if you're standing next to them or not. I don't see anywhere near the level of codependence I see with aqua women.
My sister is an aqua with an aqua. He let's her believe she wears the pants sometimes, but she does not, at all lol.
Aqua men win this one IMO
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Posted by STILLI've already answered that to pisceswoman.Posted by AerialViewWhat part Aerial?Posted by STILLNot you but him.Posted by AerialViewWhat? the prude part?Posted by STILLThat one sounds like Cap Venus Aqua π
Ok @AerialView & @Seleukos here's another one about you aqua guys.
This Aquarius man looks like Jeremy Meeks, so very good looking IMO. He spoiled me to death. As did the last Aquaman I told the story about. He was much more of an extrovert very rough around the edges.
He was very litigious. He would take people to court and vice versa, for various reasons and win without an attorney. One was against his landlord another one against a surgeon. I won't comment about any of the other court cases.
I would stay at his house for days at a time during summer vacay and I would not have sex with him and he never forced me to. I was a prude back then because I knew I would leave a man on the first strike. I didn't want a large body count. He would come home, we'd eat. Then he'd do that nice favor that I liked. π
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Posted by STILLIs he an Aqua too?Posted by AerialViewπππ Now you sound like my bfPosted by STILLAqua men win part.Posted by AerialViewWhy do you love this?Posted by nanoLol I love this π
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
Aqua men play by their own rules and quite frankly, dont seem to care if you're standing next to them or not. I don't see anywhere near the level of codependence I see with aqua women.
My sister is an aqua with an aqua. He let's her believe she wears the pants sometimes, but she does not, at all lol.
Aqua men win this one IMO
GOD help us!
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Posted by nanoPosted by STILLYea, I understand. I am just close to these 2 women I work with in particular. My boss is also an aqua, and my Male coworker. Then my sister & her bf (soon to be married) and father are aquas, my ex was an aqua, and an ex best friend of 17 years! I myself have a fully packed 11th house with personal planets. I am surrounded by aquas and I understand them. When I post on the aqua board, it's just my own experiences among this group of people. I admire aquas obviously, so it really sucks to see the ones I know personally used and abused.Posted by nano
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
Aqua men play by their own rules and quite frankly, dont seem to care if you're standing next to them or not. I don't see anywhere near the level of codependence I see with aqua women.
My sister is an aqua with an aqua. He let's her believe she wears the pants sometimes, but she does not, at all lol.
Aqua men win this one IMO
I can tell you that this has never been me. I've always had the upper hand in any relationship, with any sign, that I've had. What you fail to realize is that this is not the usual for Aquarius women. In the first stages of life, for me, I didn't take any shit. I'm softening up on purpose because I have given men the blues so bad. As I stated previously, some of us decide to humble ourselves and change. Sometines we go to the total opposite extreme. It's like redemption for us. There can be exceptions to the rules if course, but I'm not like that all.
This scorpio husband of my coworker set up her work direct deposit to pay off his house that's in his will to go to his daughter once he dies... there's not even a plan for her...his wife! She has to ask him permission for money! Wtf. That's just one of the very many examples of their relationship dynamic. I try not to feel too bad for her because it was her that got herself in this situation in the first place, and she knows that and acknowledges it. But said she will never leave him.click to expand

Posted by AerialViewHahaha. My aquarius best friend since childhood its like that. Venus and mars cap π He could always get us out of trouble talking nonstop to anyone πPosted by pisceswoman123No but imagine Seleukos.Posted by AerialViewDo you know I aqua with Cap Venus that win without attorney too? πππPosted by pisceswoman123I'm dead serious π¬πPosted by AerialViewπ funnyPosted by pisceswoman123Win without attorney πPosted by AerialViewPosted by STILLThat one sounds like Cap Venus Aqua π
Ok @AerialView & @Seleukos here's another one about you aqua guys.
This Aquarius man looks like Jeremy Meeks, so very good looking IMO. He spoiled me to death. As did the last Aquaman I told the story about. He was much more of an extrovert very rough around the edges.
He was very litigious. He would take people to court and vice versa, for various reasons and win without an attorney. One was against his landlord another one against a surgeon. I won't comment about any of the other court cases.
I would stay at his house for days at a time during summer vacay and I would not have sex with him and he never forced me to. I was a prude back then because I knew I would leave a man on the first strike. I didn't want a large body count. He would come home, we'd eat. Then he'd do that nice favor that I liked. π
Which part?
The judges would be bored with his roundabouts talks π and set him free.click to expand

Posted by AerialViewYes. That was in one of my first replies to you sirPosted by STILLIs he an Aqua too?Posted by AerialViewπππ Now you sound like my bfPosted by STILLAqua men win part.Posted by AerialViewWhy do you love this?Posted by nanoLol I love this π
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
Aqua men play by their own rules and quite frankly, dont seem to care if you're standing next to them or not. I don't see anywhere near the level of codependence I see with aqua women.
My sister is an aqua with an aqua. He let's her believe she wears the pants sometimes, but she does not, at all lol.
Aqua men win this one IMO
GOD help us!
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Posted by pisceswoman123The ability to bore people is often underestimated lolPosted by AerialViewHahaha. My aquarius best friend since childhood its like that. Venus and mars cap π He could always get us out of trouble talking nonstop to anyone πPosted by pisceswoman123No but imagine Seleukos.Posted by AerialViewDo you know I aqua with Cap Venus that win without attorney too? πππPosted by pisceswoman123I'm dead serious π¬πPosted by AerialViewπ funnyPosted by pisceswoman123Win without attorney πPosted by AerialViewPosted by STILLThat one sounds like Cap Venus Aqua π
Ok @AerialView & @Seleukos here's another one about you aqua guys.
This Aquarius man looks like Jeremy Meeks, so very good looking IMO. He spoiled me to death. As did the last Aquaman I told the story about. He was much more of an extrovert very rough around the edges.
He was very litigious. He would take people to court and vice versa, for various reasons and win without an attorney. One was against his landlord another one against a surgeon. I won't comment about any of the other court cases.
I would stay at his house for days at a time during summer vacay and I would not have sex with him and he never forced me to. I was a prude back then because I knew I would leave a man on the first strike. I didn't want a large body count. He would come home, we'd eat. Then he'd do that nice favor that I liked. π
Which part?
The judges would be bored with his roundabouts talks π and set him free.
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Posted by AerialViewNow you sound like me. I hate repeating myself. ππππPosted by STILLI've already answered that to pisceswoman.Posted by AerialViewWhat part Aerial?Posted by STILLNot you but him.Posted by AerialViewWhat? the prude part?Posted by STILLThat one sounds like Cap Venus Aqua π
Ok @AerialView & @Seleukos here's another one about you aqua guys.
This Aquarius man looks like Jeremy Meeks, so very good looking IMO. He spoiled me to death. As did the last Aquaman I told the story about. He was much more of an extrovert very rough around the edges.
He was very litigious. He would take people to court and vice versa, for various reasons and win without an attorney. One was against his landlord another one against a surgeon. I won't comment about any of the other court cases.
I would stay at his house for days at a time during summer vacay and I would not have sex with him and he never forced me to. I was a prude back then because I knew I would leave a man on the first strike. I didn't want a large body count. He would come home, we'd eat. Then he'd do that nice favor that I liked. π
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Posted by AerialViewI remember once being stopped in the car by the police after a dinner and with a car full of smoke, we thought we were going to get in so much trouble and he convinced the cops to let him drive off. πππ unbelievable!!!!Posted by pisceswoman123The ability to bore people is often underestimated lolPosted by AerialViewHahaha. My aquarius best friend since childhood its like that. Venus and mars cap π He could always get us out of trouble talking nonstop to anyone πPosted by pisceswoman123No but imagine Seleukos.Posted by AerialViewDo you know I aqua with Cap Venus that win without attorney too? πππPosted by pisceswoman123I'm dead serious π¬πPosted by AerialViewπ funnyPosted by pisceswoman123Win without attorney πPosted by AerialViewPosted by STILLThat one sounds like Cap Venus Aqua π
Ok @AerialView & @Seleukos here's another one about you aqua guys.
This Aquarius man looks like Jeremy Meeks, so very good looking IMO. He spoiled me to death. As did the last Aquaman I told the story about. He was much more of an extrovert very rough around the edges.
He was very litigious. He would take people to court and vice versa, for various reasons and win without an attorney. One was against his landlord another one against a surgeon. I won't comment about any of the other court cases.
I would stay at his house for days at a time during summer vacay and I would not have sex with him and he never forced me to. I was a prude back then because I knew I would leave a man on the first strike. I didn't want a large body count. He would come home, we'd eat. Then he'd do that nice favor that I liked. π
Which part?
The judges would be bored with his roundabouts talks π and set him free.
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Posted by STILLCan't remember if he's your boyfriend. I thought he's only a friend lolPosted by AerialViewYes. That was in one of my first replies to you sirPosted by STILLIs he an Aqua too?Posted by AerialViewπππ Now you sound like my bfPosted by STILLAqua men win part.Posted by AerialViewWhy do you love this?Posted by nanoLol I love this π
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
Aqua men play by their own rules and quite frankly, dont seem to care if you're standing next to them or not. I don't see anywhere near the level of codependence I see with aqua women.
My sister is an aqua with an aqua. He let's her believe she wears the pants sometimes, but she does not, at all lol.
Aqua men win this one IMO
GOD help us!
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Posted by nanoI asked that because when I was younger I was horrible to men and now I'm starting to feel remorse.Posted by STILLSure... I pop into the aqua forum pretty frequently, and post just sometimes. I like aqua men sooo much, even though 2 of them inflicted great pain onto me lol.Posted by nanoPosted by STILLYea, I understand. I am just close to these 2 women I work with in particular. My boss is also an aqua, and my Male coworker. Then my sister & her bf (soon to be married) and father are aquas, my ex was an aqua, and an ex best friend of 17 years! I myself have a fully packed 11th house with personal planets. I am surrounded by aquas and I understand them. When I post on the aqua board, it's just my own experiences among this group of people. I admire aquas obviously, so it really sucks to see the ones I know personally used and abused.Posted by nano
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
Aqua men play by their own rules and quite frankly, dont seem to care if you're standing next to them or not. I don't see anywhere near the level of codependence I see with aqua women.
My sister is an aqua with an aqua. He let's her believe she wears the pants sometimes, but she does not, at all lol.
Aqua men win this one IMO
I can tell you that this has never been me. I've always had the upper hand in any relationship, with any sign, that I've had. What you fail to realize is that this is not the usual for Aquarius women. In the first stages of life, for me, I didn't take any shit. I'm softening up on purpose because I have given men the blues so bad. As I stated previously, some of us decide to humble ourselves and change. Sometines we go to the total opposite extreme. It's like redemption for us. There can be exceptions to the rules if course, but I'm not like that all.
This scorpio husband of my coworker set up her work direct deposit to pay off his house that's in his will to go to his daughter once he dies... there's not even a plan for her...his wife! She has to ask him permission for money! Wtf. That's just one of the very many examples of their relationship dynamic. I try not to feel too bad for her because it was her that got herself in this situation in the first place, and she knows that and acknowledges it. But said she will never leave him.
Wow you are surrounded by Aquas.
Can I reserve the right to ask you questions, periodically, about your experience with Aquas?
Was she a bad girl at a young age? Asking for a friend. Lol
Why won't she leave?
And this woman is a super sweet aqua/sag moon. She was married only 1 time before, and her husband had died. Shes faithful and has a huge tolerance for things. She can be a hypocrite and tries to be controlling, but overall very friendly and a huge heart. From what I remember, she had 2 daughters very young and was in a pretty happy marriage until he got sick and passed away. I don't know too much about her when she was young, but her daughters now are well brought up.click to expand

Posted by nanoPosted by halalbaeYep that's crazy. I've seen this one I know lash out at his wife (my coworker) in public and it's like wtf does this psycho do in private? He works closely but technically for another company. He is so controlling that our work is even effected by his need to come and "check on her" every 20 min, under the guise of some frivolous information like having enchiladas tonight for dinner or Betty from church called.Posted by nanoI see it a lot too with this pairing
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
TMZ showed a video of Fabolous(scorpio) threatening and raging at his Aquarius girlfriend. He knocked her teeth out not long before this
I think this was just yesterday
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/crime/2018/03/29/rapper-fabolous-arrested-domestic-dispute-charges/469611002/
Thank god he did not find weapons smh it probably would be a MURDER charge now π«click to expand

Posted by vixen14Posted by AerialViewI know when to play submissive and play the cards right so in the event something major comes up, I throw a Jack π down and get what I want when it matters. Lol π¬ it works most of the timePosted by vixen14Explain please πPosted by nanoLmao π yeah. I can be like that too and βpretendβ like my Aries has the power. But in reality I doPosted by vixen14You remember hearing me bitch about those coworkers all the time π They use work shifts and thus me as catharsis of their oppressionPosted by nano
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
Aqua men play by their own rules and quite frankly, dont seem to care if you're standing next to them or not. I don't see anywhere near the level of codependence I see with aqua women.
My sister is an aqua with an aqua. He let's her believe she wears the pants sometimes, but she does not, at all lol.
Aqua men win this one IMO
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Posted by vixen14It's called being a chess player. Aqua women are so rebellious in the beginning stages of life. We get tired and soften up. For me I study how other women naturally are. I ask them questions on why they feel and do certain things. I collect data and apply it when I need it.Posted by MyStarsShineIs it a game? π€ I see it as a bargaining chip. He can make decisions on small things but big things, is what matters to me. Iβll let him and the world think heβs the head, but Iβm the one that moves it around π¬Posted by vixen14My mother used to do this with my dad lol....I couldn't play that gamePosted by nanoLmao π yeah. I can be like that too and βpretendβ like my Aries has the power. But in reality I doPosted by vixen14You remember hearing me bitch about those coworkers all the time π They use work shifts and thus me as catharsis of their oppressionPosted by nano
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
Aqua men play by their own rules and quite frankly, dont seem to care if you're standing next to them or not. I don't see anywhere near the level of codependence I see with aqua women.
My sister is an aqua with an aqua. He let's her believe she wears the pants sometimes, but she does not, at all lol.
Aqua men win this one IMO
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Posted by vixen14HaahaaPosted by MyStarsShineLol yeah. It does come off that way cuz it probably is. I prefer to refer it as playing dumb fox. I read it in a book. I think the perfect metaphor for this would be βyou catch more bees with honeyβ π―Posted by vixen14He's only allowed to make decisions on small things, but you lead him to believe he is making all the decisions? Did i read that right or wrong ? I think it sounds a bit manipulative ?Posted by MyStarsShineIs it a game? π€ I see it as a bargaining chip. He can make decisions on small things but big things, is what matters to me. Iβll let him and the world think heβs the head, but Iβm the one that moves it around π¬Posted by vixen14My mother used to do this with my dad lol....I couldn't play that gamePosted by nanoLmao π yeah. I can be like that too and βpretendβ like my Aries has the power. But in reality I doPosted by vixen14You remember hearing me bitch about those coworkers all the time π They use work shifts and thus me as catharsis of their oppressionPosted by nano
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
Aqua men play by their own rules and quite frankly, dont seem to care if you're standing next to them or not. I don't see anywhere near the level of codependence I see with aqua women.
My sister is an aqua with an aqua. He let's her believe she wears the pants sometimes, but she does not, at all lol.
Aqua men win this one IMO
π’
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Posted by AerialViewPosted by pisceswoman123The ability to bore people is often underestimated lolPosted by AerialViewHahaha. My aquarius best friend since childhood its like that. Venus and mars cap π He could always get us out of trouble talking nonstop to anyone πPosted by pisceswoman123No but imagine Seleukos.Posted by AerialViewDo you know I aqua with Cap Venus that win without attorney too? πππPosted by pisceswoman123I'm dead serious π¬πPosted by AerialViewπ funnyPosted by pisceswoman123Win without attorney πPosted by AerialViewPosted by STILLThat one sounds like Cap Venus Aqua π
Ok @AerialView & @Seleukos here's another one about you aqua guys.
This Aquarius man looks like Jeremy Meeks, so very good looking IMO. He spoiled me to death. As did the last Aquaman I told the story about. He was much more of an extrovert very rough around the edges.
He was very litigious. He would take people to court and vice versa, for various reasons and win without an attorney. One was against his landlord another one against a surgeon. I won't comment about any of the other court cases.
I would stay at his house for days at a time during summer vacay and I would not have sex with him and he never forced me to. I was a prude back then because I knew I would leave a man on the first strike. I didn't want a large body count. He would come home, we'd eat. Then he'd do that nice favor that I liked. π
Which part?
The judges would be bored with his roundabouts talks π and set him free.
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Posted by AerialViewNot my boyfriend my best friend! I don't have time for a boyfriend. I call women sir and Mr. too. I think it's funny calling young people and women sir/Mr. π¬Posted by STILLCan't remember if he's your boyfriend. I thought he's only a friend lolPosted by AerialViewYes. That was in one of my first replies to you sirPosted by STILLIs he an Aqua too?Posted by AerialViewπππ Now you sound like my bfPosted by STILLAqua men win part.Posted by AerialViewWhy do you love this?Posted by nanoLol I love this π
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
Aqua men play by their own rules and quite frankly, dont seem to care if you're standing next to them or not. I don't see anywhere near the level of codependence I see with aqua women.
My sister is an aqua with an aqua. He let's her believe she wears the pants sometimes, but she does not, at all lol.
Aqua men win this one IMO
GOD help us!
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Posted by nanoPosted by STILLYes... she bitches about it every day. She works for her paycheck and its going to his house mortgage which won't even be hers if something happens to him. Can you imagine? I hate that controlling and suffocating energy. I see how it breaks down and takes a toll a person.Posted by nanoI asked that because when I was younger I was horrible to men and now I'm starting to feel remorse.Posted by STILLSure... I pop into the aqua forum pretty frequently, and post just sometimes. I like aqua men sooo much, even though 2 of them inflicted great pain onto me lol.Posted by nanoPosted by STILLYea, I understand. I am just close to these 2 women I work with in particular. My boss is also an aqua, and my Male coworker. Then my sister & her bf (soon to be married) and father are aquas, my ex was an aqua, and an ex best friend of 17 years! I myself have a fully packed 11th house with personal planets. I am surrounded by aquas and I understand them. When I post on the aqua board, it's just my own experiences among this group of people. I admire aquas obviously, so it really sucks to see the ones I know personally used and abused.Posted by nano
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
Aqua men play by their own rules and quite frankly, dont seem to care if you're standing next to them or not. I don't see anywhere near the level of codependence I see with aqua women.
My sister is an aqua with an aqua. He let's her believe she wears the pants sometimes, but she does not, at all lol.
Aqua men win this one IMO
I can tell you that this has never been me. I've always had the upper hand in any relationship, with any sign, that I've had. What you fail to realize is that this is not the usual for Aquarius women. In the first stages of life, for me, I didn't take any shit. I'm softening up on purpose because I have given men the blues so bad. As I stated previously, some of us decide to humble ourselves and change. Sometines we go to the total opposite extreme. It's like redemption for us. There can be exceptions to the rules if course, but I'm not like that all.
This scorpio husband of my coworker set up her work direct deposit to pay off his house that's in his will to go to his daughter once he dies... there's not even a plan for her...his wife! She has to ask him permission for money! Wtf. That's just one of the very many examples of their relationship dynamic. I try not to feel too bad for her because it was her that got herself in this situation in the first place, and she knows that and acknowledges it. But said she will never leave him.
Wow you are surrounded by Aquas.
Can I reserve the right to ask you questions, periodically, about your experience with Aquas?
Was she a bad girl at a young age? Asking for a friend. Lol
Why won't she leave?
And this woman is a super sweet aqua/sag moon. She was married only 1 time before, and her husband had died. Shes faithful and has a huge tolerance for things. She can be a hypocrite and tries to be controlling, but overall very friendly and a huge heart. From what I remember, she had 2 daughters very young and was in a pretty happy marriage until he got sick and passed away. I don't know too much about her when she was young, but her daughters now are well brought up.
I'm an extremist and I don't want to turn out to be a pushover just because I feel the need to repent.
The most disturbing thing to me, is that she gives a man money. That's so disgusting. Yuck! A man taking money from a woman. Wow!
I think that in your situation, it's good to realize that some men are good. I had to learn the same lesson as my main male figure growing up was a monster. They might be somewhat rare, but the good ones are out there. I'm sure that you have experimented with limits and boundaries and expanded them... what you did allow in the past vs how you opened up a bit to be where you are now. You don't have to be a pushover.. just create healthy boundaries and stick to them. Once men identify those boundaries, they will bounce or they will respect them and you. Don't let anyone infringe on those!click to expand

Posted by nanoπ±Posted by STILLWe don't know why... just his personality I guess. She never did cheat on him, but she definitely suspects that he cheats. She worries about it. He's been a cheater in the past, and had no problem fucking his wife's best friend at one point. Dudes been married several times.. not sure how many. 4?Posted by nanoPosted by halalbaeYep that's crazy. I've seen this one I know lash out at his wife (my coworker) in public and it's like wtf does this psycho do in private? He works closely but technically for another company. He is so controlling that our work is even effected by his need to come and "check on her" every 20 min, under the guise of some frivolous information like having enchiladas tonight for dinner or Betty from church called.Posted by nanoI see it a lot too with this pairing
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
TMZ showed a video of Fabolous(scorpio) threatening and raging at his Aquarius girlfriend. He knocked her teeth out not long before this
I think this was just yesterday
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/crime/2018/03/29/rapper-fabolous-arrested-domestic-dispute-charges/469611002/
Thank god he did not find weapons smh it probably would be a MURDER charge now π«
Did she ever say why he is so controlling?
Did she ever cheat on him? Wait, let me rephrase my question. Has his paranoia ever made him think she was cheating?
She had caught him talking in hushed voices in the bathroom before, deleting his messages, has exes show up at work, was propositioned for a threesome. He's just nasty. Flirts with everyone and has zero game. He strikes me as an uneducated type and attracts the same type of women to flirt with. He can do all that, but if she talks to a single guy, she receives an entire FBI interrogation sesh. Cuck much
Oh and btw, these people are not young. So I guess maturity doesn't play a role. She is in her 50s and he is in his 60s.click to expand

Posted by MyStarsShineWhat are their ages? Are they married or in a long term RL?Posted by vixen14HaahaaPosted by MyStarsShineLol yeah. It does come off that way cuz it probably is. I prefer to refer it as playing dumb fox. I read it in a book. I think the perfect metaphor for this would be βyou catch more bees with honeyβ π―Posted by vixen14He's only allowed to make decisions on small things, but you lead him to believe he is making all the decisions? Did i read that right or wrong ? I think it sounds a bit manipulative ?Posted by MyStarsShineIs it a game? π€ I see it as a bargaining chip. He can make decisions on small things but big things, is what matters to me. Iβll let him and the world think heβs the head, but Iβm the one that moves it around π¬Posted by vixen14My mother used to do this with my dad lol....I couldn't play that gamePosted by nanoLmao π yeah. I can be like that too and βpretendβ like my Aries has the power. But in reality I doPosted by vixen14You remember hearing me bitch about those coworkers all the time π They use work shifts and thus me as catharsis of their oppressionPosted by nano
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
Aqua men play by their own rules and quite frankly, dont seem to care if you're standing next to them or not. I don't see anywhere near the level of codependence I see with aqua women.
My sister is an aqua with an aqua. He let's her believe she wears the pants sometimes, but she does not, at all lol.
Aqua men win this one IMO
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I've met quite a few Aqua women who are so dominant π , they have men feeding out of their hands or trembling in their boots.....one, a friend and the other, a work colleague would have made great dominatrixes . They scared the shit out of me lol and I'm a Scorpio
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Posted by vixen14My best friend who is an Aquarius taught me that. He told me "you have to know when to hold them, know when to fold them, know when to walk away" that old country song.Posted by STILLLol I can see that. I know I do it because nagging isnβt going to get me anywhere. Itβs best to play your cards right.Posted by vixen14Posted by AerialViewI know when to play submissive and play the cards right so in the event something major comes up, I throw a Jack π down and get what I want when it matters. Lol π¬ it works most of the timePosted by vixen14Explain please πPosted by nanoLmao π yeah. I can be like that too and βpretendβ like my Aries has the power. But in reality I doPosted by vixen14You remember hearing me bitch about those coworkers all the time π They use work shifts and thus me as catharsis of their oppressionPosted by nano
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
Aqua men play by their own rules and quite frankly, dont seem to care if you're standing next to them or not. I don't see anywhere near the level of codependence I see with aqua women.
My sister is an aqua with an aqua. He let's her believe she wears the pants sometimes, but she does not, at all lol.
Aqua men win this one IMO
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I know what you mean. On another thread when said girl 88th said her Pisces friend was run over the Aquaman she was interested in. I told her that Aqua men are usually not suckers. They'll play along, to get what they want. Is usually of more value than what they give. The women are the same in that sense. Aqua men can play dumb or innocent to get what they want. The woman can play dumb or submissive to get what they want.
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Posted by vixen14Posted by STILLI can totally relate to this. Iβve reached a stage in my life where Iβm tired of being rebellious as that didnβt really help me with my relationships. I was very much like that CapMercury87 chick that didnβt care about burning bridges with my friends or family. Iβve learned to ease up on that and that I couldnβt be so selfish with my emotions. Iβve hurt so many people, it makes me feel uneasy at how reckless I was. I still can be that way though, but it takes a lot for me to get to that point.Posted by vixen14It's called being a chess player. Aqua women are so rebellious in the beginning stages of life. We get tired and soften up. For me I study how other women naturally are. I ask them questions on why they feel and do certain things. I collect data and apply it when I need it.Posted by MyStarsShineIs it a game? π€ I see it as a bargaining chip. He can make decisions on small things but big things, is what matters to me. Iβll let him and the world think heβs the head, but Iβm the one that moves it around π¬Posted by vixen14My mother used to do this with my dad lol....I couldn't play that gamePosted by nanoLmao π yeah. I can be like that too and βpretendβ like my Aries has the power. But in reality I doPosted by vixen14You remember hearing me bitch about those coworkers all the time π They use work shifts and thus me as catharsis of their oppressionPosted by nano
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
Aqua men play by their own rules and quite frankly, dont seem to care if you're standing next to them or not. I don't see anywhere near the level of codependence I see with aqua women.
My sister is an aqua with an aqua. He let's her believe she wears the pants sometimes, but she does not, at all lol.
Aqua men win this one IMO
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@MyStarsShine
I think domineering women are ball busting and only appealing to more feminine men. A man like an Aries as a partner will only spell trouble. I think those types of aquas are really masculine or not in the know about how they come across. But then again, it could be a matter of perception. Iβve heard so many of my Aries friends say that Iβm so intimidating (as well as past acquaintances) and how I come off as the βmanβ of the relationship. Lol itβs probably just my serious demeanor and my Cap energy and Rising that gives off that impression. Because Iβd never want to be the man in my relationship. I want to feel and be treated like a lady and no one does that better than an Aries male.
I will say this though. I do have a bad temper when angered. Iβve scared off and surprised even my parents when theyβve seen me pissed. I can be relentless and cruel when pushed beyond my tolerance level.click to expand

Posted by STILLOne was in her 50sPosted by MyStarsShineWhat are their ages? Are they married or in a long term RL?Posted by vixen14HaahaaPosted by MyStarsShineLol yeah. It does come off that way cuz it probably is. I prefer to refer it as playing dumb fox. I read it in a book. I think the perfect metaphor for this would be βyou catch more bees with honeyβ π―Posted by vixen14He's only allowed to make decisions on small things, but you lead him to believe he is making all the decisions? Did i read that right or wrong ? I think it sounds a bit manipulative ?Posted by MyStarsShineIs it a game? π€ I see it as a bargaining chip. He can make decisions on small things but big things, is what matters to me. Iβll let him and the world think heβs the head, but Iβm the one that moves it around π¬Posted by vixen14My mother used to do this with my dad lol....I couldn't play that gamePosted by nanoLmao π yeah. I can be like that too and βpretendβ like my Aries has the power. But in reality I doPosted by vixen14You remember hearing me bitch about those coworkers all the time π They use work shifts and thus me as catharsis of their oppressionPosted by nano
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
Aqua men play by their own rules and quite frankly, dont seem to care if you're standing next to them or not. I don't see anywhere near the level of codependence I see with aqua women.
My sister is an aqua with an aqua. He let's her believe she wears the pants sometimes, but she does not, at all lol.
Aqua men win this one IMO
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I've met quite a few Aqua women who are so dominant π , they have men feeding out of their hands or trembling in their boots.....one, a friend and the other, a work colleague would have made great dominatrixes . They scared the shit out of me lol and I'm a Scorpio
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Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by STILLOne was in her 50sPosted by MyStarsShineWhat are their ages? Are they married or in a long term RL?Posted by vixen14HaahaaPosted by MyStarsShineLol yeah. It does come off that way cuz it probably is. I prefer to refer it as playing dumb fox. I read it in a book. I think the perfect metaphor for this would be βyou catch more bees with honeyβ π―Posted by vixen14He's only allowed to make decisions on small things, but you lead him to believe he is making all the decisions? Did i read that right or wrong ? I think it sounds a bit manipulative ?Posted by MyStarsShineIs it a game? π€ I see it as a bargaining chip. He can make decisions on small things but big things, is what matters to me. Iβll let him and the world think heβs the head, but Iβm the one that moves it around π¬Posted by vixen14My mother used to do this with my dad lol....I couldn't play that gamePosted by nanoLmao π yeah. I can be like that too and βpretendβ like my Aries has the power. But in reality I doPosted by vixen14You remember hearing me bitch about those coworkers all the time π They use work shifts and thus me as catharsis of their oppressionPosted by nano
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
Aqua men play by their own rules and quite frankly, dont seem to care if you're standing next to them or not. I don't see anywhere near the level of codependence I see with aqua women.
My sister is an aqua with an aqua. He let's her believe she wears the pants sometimes, but she does not, at all lol.
Aqua men win this one IMO
π’
I've met quite a few Aqua women who are so dominant π , they have men feeding out of their hands or trembling in their boots.....one, a friend and the other, a work colleague would have made great dominatrixes . They scared the shit out of me lol and I'm a Scorpio
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One in her late 20s
One in her 40s
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Posted by STILLYou're welcomePosted by MyStarsShinePosted by STILLOne was in her 50sPosted by MyStarsShineWhat are their ages? Are they married or in a long term RL?Posted by vixen14HaahaaPosted by MyStarsShineLol yeah. It does come off that way cuz it probably is. I prefer to refer it as playing dumb fox. I read it in a book. I think the perfect metaphor for this would be βyou catch more bees with honeyβ π―Posted by vixen14He's only allowed to make decisions on small things, but you lead him to believe he is making all the decisions? Did i read that right or wrong ? I think it sounds a bit manipulative ?Posted by MyStarsShineIs it a game? π€ I see it as a bargaining chip. He can make decisions on small things but big things, is what matters to me. Iβll let him and the world think heβs the head, but Iβm the one that moves it around π¬Posted by vixen14My mother used to do this with my dad lol....I couldn't play that gamePosted by nanoLmao π yeah. I can be like that too and βpretendβ like my Aries has the power. But in reality I doPosted by vixen14You remember hearing me bitch about those coworkers all the time π They use work shifts and thus me as catharsis of their oppressionPosted by nano
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
Aqua men play by their own rules and quite frankly, dont seem to care if you're standing next to them or not. I don't see anywhere near the level of codependence I see with aqua women.
My sister is an aqua with an aqua. He let's her believe she wears the pants sometimes, but she does not, at all lol.
Aqua men win this one IMO
π’
I've met quite a few Aqua women who are so dominant π , they have men feeding out of their hands or trembling in their boots.....one, a friend and the other, a work colleague would have made great dominatrixes . They scared the shit out of me lol and I'm a Scorpio
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One in her late 20s
One in her 40s
All married, yes
Ok. Thank you. I'll store that with the rest of my data.
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Posted by vixen14Yes! All the Aqua women I knew were like the man, just as you described.....masculine energyPosted by STILLI can totally relate to this. Iβve reached a stage in my life where Iβm tired of being rebellious as that didnβt really help me with my relationships. I was very much like that CapMercury87 chick that didnβt care about burning bridges with my friends or family. Iβve learned to ease up on that and that I couldnβt be so selfish with my emotions. Iβve hurt so many people, it makes me feel uneasy at how reckless I was. I still can be that way though, but it takes a lot for me to get to that point.Posted by vixen14It's called being a chess player. Aqua women are so rebellious in the beginning stages of life. We get tired and soften up. For me I study how other women naturally are. I ask them questions on why they feel and do certain things. I collect data and apply it when I need it.Posted by MyStarsShineIs it a game? π€ I see it as a bargaining chip. He can make decisions on small things but big things, is what matters to me. Iβll let him and the world think heβs the head, but Iβm the one that moves it around π¬Posted by vixen14My mother used to do this with my dad lol....I couldn't play that gamePosted by nanoLmao π yeah. I can be like that too and βpretendβ like my Aries has the power. But in reality I doPosted by vixen14You remember hearing me bitch about those coworkers all the time π They use work shifts and thus me as catharsis of their oppressionPosted by nano
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
Aqua men play by their own rules and quite frankly, dont seem to care if you're standing next to them or not. I don't see anywhere near the level of codependence I see with aqua women.
My sister is an aqua with an aqua. He let's her believe she wears the pants sometimes, but she does not, at all lol.
Aqua men win this one IMO
π’
@MyStarsShine
I think domineering women are ball busting and only appealing to more feminine men. A man like an Aries as a partner will only spell trouble. I think those types of aquas are really masculine or not in the know about how they come across. But then again, it could be a matter of perception. Iβve heard so many of my Aries friends say that Iβm so intimidating (as well as past acquaintances) and how I come off as the βmanβ of the relationship. Lol itβs probably just my serious demeanor and my Cap energy and Rising that gives off that impression. Because Iβd never want to be the man in my relationship. I want to feel and be treated like a lady and no one does that better than an Aries male.
I will say this though. I do have a bad temper when angered. Iβve scared off and surprised even my parents when theyβve seen me pissed. I can be relentless and cruel when pushed beyond my tolerance level.click to expand
Posted by halalbaeewww that woman has an abusive man. π’ that totally sucks for her. I hope she gets out of there...Posted by nanoSmh horrible. Aqua women have high self esteem... its an insecure, controlling, abusive mans worst nightmarePosted by halalbaeYep that's crazy. I've seen this one I know lash out at his wife (my coworker) in public and it's like wtf does this psycho do in private? He works closely but technically for another company. He is so controlling that our work is even effected by his need to come and "check on her" every 20 min, under the guise of some frivolous information like having enchiladas tonight for dinner or Betty from church called.Posted by nanoI see it a lot too with this pairing
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
TMZ showed a video of Fabolous(scorpio) threatening and raging at his Aquarius girlfriend. He knocked her teeth out not long before this
I think this was just yesterday
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/crime/2018/03/29/rapper-fabolous-arrested-domestic-dispute-charges/469611002/
Thank god he did not find weapons smh it probably would be a MURDER charge now π«
Why they stay? Idk and I dont know many Aquarius women but the ones I know, rarely feel as if they belong. They subconsciously dread the day may come where they feel that way with their SO too. Thats why they process people close to them through a filter of whether people are rejecting them or not
Once a relationship has progressed, they get super attached and overanalyze EVERYTHING and stay LOOONG past its due dateclick to expand
Posted by halalbaenow you got me curious of who that couple is.Posted by nanoI see it a lot too with this pairing
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
TMZ showed a video of Fabolous(scorpio) threatening and raging at his Aquarius girlfriend. He knocked her teeth out not long before this
I think this was just yesterday
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/crime/2018/03/29/rapper-fabolous-arrested-domestic-dispute-charges/469611002/
Thank god he did not find weapons smh it probably would be a MURDER charge now π«click to expand

Posted by halalbaePosted by lisabethur8Fabolous (John David Jackson) Scorpio and Emily Bustamante AquariusPosted by halalbaenow you got me curious of who that couple is.Posted by nanoI see it a lot too with this pairing
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
TMZ showed a video of Fabolous(scorpio) threatening and raging at his Aquarius girlfriend. He knocked her teeth out not long before this
I think this was just yesterday
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/crime/2018/03/29/rapper-fabolous-arrested-domestic-dispute-charges/469611002/
Thank god he did not find weapons smh it probably would be a MURDER charge now π«
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Posted by halalbaePosted by STILLYes she tolerated the abuse but the abuser is the only one to blame here. The way she runs from him... she probably stayed with him out of fear. This video is triggering, my hairs standing up on my body when I watch itPosted by halalbaePosted by nanoI see it a lot too with this pairing
I've seen many aqua women give up their power and dignity to men in relationships, namely with scorpio men. My 2 co workers are both with scorpio men and the shit they endure and the bullying they endure makes me sick. But they just lay down and take it. Its like they see what they are accepting, even call themselves stupid, but go on with it.
TMZ showed a video of Fabolous(scorpio) threatening and raging at his Aquarius girlfriend. He knocked her teeth out not long before this
I think this was just yesterday
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/crime/2018/03/29/rapper-fabolous-arrested-domestic-dispute-charges/469611002/
Thank god he did not find weapons smh it probably would be a MURDER charge now π«
She does allow him to treat her bad.
What happened? I'm curious.
Idk the FULL story. They have a strange relationship, the Scorpio doesnt even claim her. Theres nothing monagamous about their relationship, yet he accuses her of cheating while he sleeps around with dozens of women... which resulted in this
Number one marker of a fuckboy... holding a woman to standards they dont hold themselves to and expecting loyalty they dont giveclick to expand
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