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I am so glad i posted, this post has been very helpful.
@Op Not everyone is going to get you to emotionally, but will you know if one is stronger than the other with feelings?
Posted by BlackburnI feel like that sometimes
I have fire in my chart, that's why I questioned that actually,
I've always thought it would be more difficult for a fire sign to feel lifeless, and without purpose. Fire lights everything up, either with passion, euphoria or wrath
I would say your Scorp wets all that fire, I've known another Aries Sun Scorp Moon, and he was very depressive (he had reasons), as if his fire was missing because of all his water flooding in his chart.
Aries sun - Pisces mars, merc, Venus - Scorpio ascend ?
Posted by WitchmitchAriesPosted by bricklemarkI am not secretive, I am a open book and very expressive. sometime too over expressive, so i have been told, lol. I am very good at keeping others secrets though. 'not my place to say' type of thing. But i have not had any fun for years till i started play video games with this Aries guy. Which got me think of finding others who would get what i am talking about.
I'd think it's your scorpio moon, you are secretive, you don't express or recognise your emotions, so something happened beneath the surface, that you noticed on a very light subconscious level. Think back to when you last had fun.click to expand
Im not talking about being nonexpressive. At all. Im talking about deep emotional happenings, inside, that you don't share.
Posted by bricklemarkI do share. i think Sakuraflowers pegged it when she posted 'Taurus Mercury have a tendency to close off from people if it's believed those people don't understand.'Posted by WitchmitchAriesPosted by bricklemarkI am not secretive, I am a open book and very expressive. sometime too over expressive, so i have been told, lol. I am very good at keeping others secrets though. 'not my place to say' type of thing. But i have not had any fun for years till i started play video games with this Aries guy. Which got me think of finding others who would get what i am talking about.
I'd think it's your scorpio moon, you are secretive, you don't express or recognise your emotions, so something happened beneath the surface, that you noticed on a very light subconscious level. Think back to when you last had fun.
Im not talking about being nonexpressive. At all. Im talking about deep emotional happenings, inside, that you don't share.
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That i do do. when i share with others and dont feel understood i will back off and just not go there. my thinking is 'if they really want to know they would go out of their way to try to understand, because thats what i do with others.
Posted by MadMarchRamPosted by BlackburnI feel like that sometimes
I have fire in my chart, that's why I questioned that actually,
I've always thought it would be more difficult for a fire sign to feel lifeless, and without purpose. Fire lights everything up, either with passion, euphoria or wrath
I would say your Scorp wets all that fire, I've known another Aries Sun Scorp Moon, and he was very depressive (he had reasons), as if his fire was missing because of all his water flooding in his chart.
Aries sun - Pisces mars, merc, Venus - Scorpio ascend ?
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This is just a theory, but I see it applies to me and many ppl I know; I think it happens because you are your sun (ego, your main personality) and the rest of planets are other faces of your personality, like, the sun is more present. That makes you feel you ARE fire, but your other placements are watery, so they modify your main nature, taming that fire. I've seen the same (the opposite) with water suns with fire placements.
I don't know if I explained myself right. It's like the black zebra with white stripes vs. White zebra with black stripes xD
Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428when you posted this 'And your emotions ( moon) are higher than your Mercury degrees of communication habits.' its been weighing on my mind. I not really sure if one is stronger than the other. one thing i can say is my communication is emotionally tense; or maybe better put my emotions are a big part of my communications on any subject even if its just talking about the weather. Wow you really got me thinking, so does Sakuraflower with the post of back away from people when i dont feel understood. my thinking is that emotions and communication are intertwine. both equal but i might be wrong. i think i need to think more on this. because i am having a hard time with thinking of them as two different things. I feel emotions are communication. I might have to get back to you on that one
@Op Not everyone is going to get you to emotionally, but will you know if one is stronger than the other with feelings?
Posted by WitchmitchAriesExactly. And you end up with a habit of keeping things to yourself.Posted by bricklemarkI do share. i think Sakuraflowers pegged it when she posted 'Taurus Mercury have a tendency to close off from people if it's believed those people don't understand.'Posted by WitchmitchAriesPosted by bricklemarkI am not secretive, I am a open book and very expressive. sometime too over expressive, so i have been told, lol. I am very good at keeping others secrets though. 'not my place to say' type of thing. But i have not had any fun for years till i started play video games with this Aries guy. Which got me think of finding others who would get what i am talking about.
I'd think it's your scorpio moon, you are secretive, you don't express or recognise your emotions, so something happened beneath the surface, that you noticed on a very light subconscious level. Think back to when you last had fun.
Im not talking about being nonexpressive. At all. Im talking about deep emotional happenings, inside, that you don't share.
That i do do. when i share with others and dont feel understood i will back off and just not go there. my thinking is 'if they really want to know they would go out of their way to try to understand, because thats what i do with others.click to expand
Posted by BlackburnIt's the same zebra.Posted by MadMarchRamPosted by BlackburnI feel like that sometimes
I have fire in my chart, that's why I questioned that actually,
I've always thought it would be more difficult for a fire sign to feel lifeless, and without purpose. Fire lights everything up, either with passion, euphoria or wrath
I would say your Scorp wets all that fire, I've known another Aries Sun Scorp Moon, and he was very depressive (he had reasons), as if his fire was missing because of all his water flooding in his chart.
Aries sun - Pisces mars, merc, Venus - Scorpio ascend ?
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This is just a theory, but I see it applies to me and many ppl I know; I think it happens because you are your sun (ego, your main personality) and the rest of planets are other faces of your personality, like, the sun is more present. That makes you feel you ARE fire, but your other placements are watery, so they modify your main nature, taming that fire. I've seen the same (the opposite) with water suns with fire placements.
I don't know if I explained myself right. It's like the black zebra with white stripes vs. White zebra with black stripes xD
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Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428Posted by BlackburnIt's the same zebra. But you are right different stripes or patterns.Posted by MadMarchRamPosted by BlackburnI feel like that sometimes
I have fire in my chart, that's why I questioned that actually,
I've always thought it would be more difficult for a fire sign to feel lifeless, and without purpose. Fire lights everything up, either with passion, euphoria or wrath
I would say your Scorp wets all that fire, I've known another Aries Sun Scorp Moon, and he was very depressive (he had reasons), as if his fire was missing because of all his water flooding in his chart.
Aries sun - Pisces mars, merc, Venus - Scorpio ascend ?
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This is just a theory, but I see it applies to me and many ppl I know; I think it happens because you are your sun (ego, your main personality) and the rest of planets are other faces of your personality, like, the sun is more present. That makes you feel you ARE fire, but your other placements are watery, so they modify your main nature, taming that fire. I've seen the same (the opposite) with water suns with fire placements.
I don't know if I explained myself right. It's like the black zebra with white stripes vs. White zebra with black stripes xD
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Posted by BlackburnI think you got a point there but flipped. my Moon is water which is my emotions, It takes a lot out of me to control my emotions. That would mean i use my fire to control my water to much. I think, maybe. I never really thought of it that way. lol I am getting a lot of Wows on this post. the only thing i know is if i let my emotions run their course people around me get very upset. which i might be using fire to fight water. because i do that 'Suck it up' lol. wow my emotion do feel just like someone is damming water and then the dam brakes. once that happens i feel like this big inferno starts to build up.Posted by MadMarchRamPosted by BlackburnI feel like that sometimes
I have fire in my chart, that's why I questioned that actually,
I've always thought it would be more difficult for a fire sign to feel lifeless, and without purpose. Fire lights everything up, either with passion, euphoria or wrath
I would say your Scorp wets all that fire, I've known another Aries Sun Scorp Moon, and he was very depressive (he had reasons), as if his fire was missing because of all his water flooding in his chart.
Aries sun - Pisces mars, merc, Venus - Scorpio ascend ?
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This is just a theory, but I see it applies to me and many ppl I know; I think it happens because you are your sun (ego, your main personality) and the rest of planets are other faces of your personality, like, the sun is more present. That makes you feel you ARE fire, but your other placements are watery, so they modify your main nature, taming that fire. I've seen the same (the opposite) with water suns with fire placements.
I don't know if I explained myself right. It's like the black zebra with white stripes vs. White zebra with black stripes xD
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WOW WOW. so much to think about. you all are blowing my mind
Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428Posted by bricklemarkWe know that is not good to do this, that's why it helps to view it as non emotional way of thinking compared to Water moons and their ways of thinking.a balance must form..Posted by WitchmitchAriesExactly. And you end up with a habit of keeping things to yourself.Posted by bricklemarkI do share. i think Sakuraflowers pegged it when she posted 'Taurus Mercury have a tendency to close off from people if it's believed those people don't understand.'Posted by WitchmitchAriesPosted by bricklemarkI am not secretive, I am a open book and very expressive. sometime too over expressive, so i have been told, lol. I am very good at keeping others secrets though. 'not my place to say' type of thing. But i have not had any fun for years till i started play video games with this Aries guy. Which got me think of finding others who would get what i am talking about.
I'd think it's your scorpio moon, you are secretive, you don't express or recognise your emotions, so something happened beneath the surface, that you noticed on a very light subconscious level. Think back to when you last had fun.
Im not talking about being nonexpressive. At all. Im talking about deep emotional happenings, inside, that you don't share.
That i do do. when i share with others and dont feel understood i will back off and just not go there. my thinking is 'if they really want to know they would go out of their way to try to understand, because thats what i do with others.click to expand
wait, we are only talking about my water and fire but my arising is an air sign Gemini. shouldnt i be more balanced from that?
Water, fire, and air. If you look at those elements alone it's going to be a lot of waves, along wind blowing different directions all the time, and it will spread more and more.
@Op well if your rising is high just like moon. Then not really. Lots of motions, ideas, and fluidity, and then you get stuck cause different directions coming left and right.
Posted by WitchmitchAriesPosted by BlackburnI think you got a point there but flipped. my Moon is water which is my emotions, It takes a lot out of me to control my emotions. That would mean i use my fire to control my water to much. I think, maybe. I never really thought of it that way. lol I am getting a lot of Wows on this post. the only thing i know is if i let my emotions run their course people around me get very upset. which i might be using fire to fight water. because i do that 'Suck it up' lol. wow my emotion do feel just like someone is damming water and then the dam brakes. once that happens i feel like this big inferno starts to build up.Posted by MadMarchRamPosted by BlackburnI feel like that sometimes
I have fire in my chart, that's why I questioned that actually,
I've always thought it would be more difficult for a fire sign to feel lifeless, and without purpose. Fire lights everything up, either with passion, euphoria or wrath
I would say your Scorp wets all that fire, I've known another Aries Sun Scorp Moon, and he was very depressive (he had reasons), as if his fire was missing because of all his water flooding in his chart.
Aries sun - Pisces mars, merc, Venus - Scorpio ascend ?
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This is just a theory, but I see it applies to me and many ppl I know; I think it happens because you are your sun (ego, your main personality) and the rest of planets are other faces of your personality, like, the sun is more present. That makes you feel you ARE fire, but your other placements are watery, so they modify your main nature, taming that fire. I've seen the same (the opposite) with water suns with fire placements.
I don't know if I explained myself right. It's like the black zebra with white stripes vs. White zebra with black stripes xD
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Yes, I may be wrong, is just my feelings. Maybe lack of integration, water is not treated as fire, due to their different natures. It's good that it made you think, you know yourself better than I
I can relate to that damming water scene
Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428That is very true. I mind is always going. so many ideas non stop. But it makes me great at solving problems so that why everyone always comes to me when they have problems, but never want to just hang out or play with me. then i have all these great ideas i want to do but no one to do them with. what makes me mad is when i need them, they dont have time, but i had just stop working on something for myself to help them with their stuff. the different directions is also up and down and inside and out. it gets lonely at times and i think that when the dammed up emotions are able to brake.
@Op well if your rising is high just like moon. Then not really. Lots of motions, ideas, and fluidity, and then you get stuck cause different directions coming left and right.
Posted by BlackburnYour feeling got me to see something. I never thought about my water before. Now you got me thinking about it. tell me more about what you mean by integration.Posted by WitchmitchAriesPosted by BlackburnI think you got a point there but flipped. my Moon is water which is my emotions, It takes a lot out of me to control my emotions. That would mean i use my fire to control my water to much. I think, maybe. I never really thought of it that way. lol I am getting a lot of Wows on this post. the only thing i know is if i let my emotions run their course people around me get very upset. which i might be using fire to fight water. because i do that 'Suck it up' lol. wow my emotion do feel just like someone is damming water and then the dam brakes. once that happens i feel like this big inferno starts to build up.Posted by MadMarchRamPosted by BlackburnI feel like that sometimes
I have fire in my chart, that's why I questioned that actually,
I've always thought it would be more difficult for a fire sign to feel lifeless, and without purpose. Fire lights everything up, either with passion, euphoria or wrath
I would say your Scorp wets all that fire, I've known another Aries Sun Scorp Moon, and he was very depressive (he had reasons), as if his fire was missing because of all his water flooding in his chart.
Aries sun - Pisces mars, merc, Venus - Scorpio ascend ?
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This is just a theory, but I see it applies to me and many ppl I know; I think it happens because you are your sun (ego, your main personality) and the rest of planets are other faces of your personality, like, the sun is more present. That makes you feel you ARE fire, but your other placements are watery, so they modify your main nature, taming that fire. I've seen the same (the opposite) with water suns with fire placements.
I don't know if I explained myself right. It's like the black zebra with white stripes vs. White zebra with black stripes xD
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Yes, I may be wrong, is just my feelings. Maybe lack of integration, water is not treated as fire, due to their different natures. It's good that it made you think, you know yourself better than I
I can relate to that damming water scene
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Posted by WitchmitchAriesAww yes see you could amputate the ones that are causing you more harm than good because it does affect us. Our friends, family, CO workers, etc.Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428That is very true. I mind is always going. so many ideas non stop. But it makes me great at solving problems so that why everyone always comes to me when they have problems, but never want to just hang out or play with me. then i have all these great ideas i want to do but no one to do them with. what makes me mad is when i need them, they dont have time, but i had just stop working on something for myself to help them with their stuff. the different directions is also up and down and inside and out. it gets lonely at times and i think that when the dammed up emotions are able to brake.
@Op well if your rising is high just like moon. Then not really. Lots of motions, ideas, and fluidity, and then you get stuck cause different directions coming left and right.click to expand
Sometimes you have to break away from the ones who are selfish and venture off til you find a new group that's is similar but sparkful but when we are older we want similar things. Just the right mixture and you'll see may having problems you could help out with or not.
Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428friends and co works come and go, but turning my back on my family is another thing. thats how i see it if i am not there to help them. I am big on 'family has each others back' type thing. drawing a line with them seems to be very hard because they matter so much to me. But chatting with all of you in this post, i am not feeling so lonely and feeling understood.Posted by WitchmitchAriesAww yes see you could amputate the ones that are causing you more harm than good because it does affect us. Our friends, family, CO workers, etc.Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428That is very true. I mind is always going. so many ideas non stop. But it makes me great at solving problems so that why everyone always comes to me when they have problems, but never want to just hang out or play with me. then i have all these great ideas i want to do but no one to do them with. what makes me mad is when i need them, they dont have time, but i had just stop working on something for myself to help them with their stuff. the different directions is also up and down and inside and out. it gets lonely at times and i think that when the dammed up emotions are able to brake.
@Op well if your rising is high just like moon. Then not really. Lots of motions, ideas, and fluidity, and then you get stuck cause different directions coming left and right.
Sometimes you have to break away from the ones who are selfish and venture off til you find a new group that's is similar but sparkful but when we are older we want similar things. Just the right mixture and you'll see may having problems you could help out with or not.click to expand
@WitchmitchAries, I say integration because a chart is a combination of energies, but you can feel them separately or unifyed. When you integrate energies, they work together in the same direction. You have said ppl don't accept your watery reactions and you somehow try keep them till they go out without control.
I think you should work on that side of you. You have to seek whats good for you, doesn't matter what other ppl say or think.
You don't have to "control", but to correct bad behaviours, if you have deep emotions it's fine, it's your nature. Ppl can be upset by your flaws, but not by your nature.
I think you should work on that side of you. You have to seek whats good for you, doesn't matter what other ppl say or think.
You don't have to "control", but to correct bad behaviours, if you have deep emotions it's fine, it's your nature. Ppl can be upset by your flaws, but not by your nature.
Posted by SeraphlightI have had health problems. my body has not been the same since they removed haft my thyroid because of a tumor. that is an on going process. sometimes i get good doctors and sometimes bad ones that set me back a lot or mess something up .lolPosted by WitchmitchAriesDo you suffer from depression?
What do i do if I feel like i have lost my fire? I really am feeling like the living dead with out it. Any Aries got some tips on getting my fire back?click to expand
Posted by WitchmitchAriesCool beans potato chips. Well I'm here if you want to talk.Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428friends and co works come and go, but turning my back on my family is another thing. thats how i see it if i am not there to help them. I am big on 'family has each others back' type thing. drawing a line with them seems to be very hard because they matter so much to me. But chatting with all of you in this post, i am not feeling so lonely and feeling understood.Posted by WitchmitchAriesAww yes see you could amputate the ones that are causing you more harm than good because it does affect us. Our friends, family, CO workers, etc.Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428That is very true. I mind is always going. so many ideas non stop. But it makes me great at solving problems so that why everyone always comes to me when they have problems, but never want to just hang out or play with me. then i have all these great ideas i want to do but no one to do them with. what makes me mad is when i need them, they dont have time, but i had just stop working on something for myself to help them with their stuff. the different directions is also up and down and inside and out. it gets lonely at times and i think that when the dammed up emotions are able to brake.
@Op well if your rising is high just like moon. Then not really. Lots of motions, ideas, and fluidity, and then you get stuck cause different directions coming left and right.
Sometimes you have to break away from the ones who are selfish and venture off til you find a new group that's is similar but sparkful but when we are older we want similar things. Just the right mixture and you'll see may having problems you could help out with or not.click to expand
Posted by BlackburnYou made me cry on this one. lol you hit a nerve for sure. I had someone tell me a long time ago that i go against my nature.
@WitchmitchAries, I say integration because a chart is a combination of energies, but you can feel them separately or unifyed. When you integrate energies, they work together in the same direction. You have said ppl don't accept your watery reactions and you somehow try keep them till they go out without control.
I think you should work on that side of you. You have to seek whats good for you, doesn't matter what other ppl say or think.
You don't have to "control", but to correct bad behaviours, if you have deep emotions it's fine, it's your nature. Ppl can be upset by your flaws, but not by your nature.
Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428Great, i love chatting with you.Posted by WitchmitchAriesCool beans potato chips. Well I'm here if you want to talk.Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428friends and co works come and go, but turning my back on my family is another thing. thats how i see it if i am not there to help them. I am big on 'family has each others back' type thing. drawing a line with them seems to be very hard because they matter so much to me. But chatting with all of you in this post, i am not feeling so lonely and feeling understood.Posted by WitchmitchAriesAww yes see you could amputate the ones that are causing you more harm than good because it does affect us. Our friends, family, CO workers, etc.Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428That is very true. I mind is always going. so many ideas non stop. But it makes me great at solving problems so that why everyone always comes to me when they have problems, but never want to just hang out or play with me. then i have all these great ideas i want to do but no one to do them with. what makes me mad is when i need them, they dont have time, but i had just stop working on something for myself to help them with their stuff. the different directions is also up and down and inside and out. it gets lonely at times and i think that when the dammed up emotions are able to brake.
@Op well if your rising is high just like moon. Then not really. Lots of motions, ideas, and fluidity, and then you get stuck cause different directions coming left and right.
Sometimes you have to break away from the ones who are selfish and venture off til you find a new group that's is similar but sparkful but when we are older we want similar things. Just the right mixture and you'll see may having problems you could help out with or not.click to expand
Posted by BlackburnI agree with working on integration but realize that it does take time and in the interim/meantime you can work on taking care of you first, and then also establishing/re-establishing relationships that are not toxic for you. You must take a step back / outside and view what is going on around you (you included) ...
@WitchmitchAries, I say integration because a chart is a combination of energies, but you can feel them separately or unifyed. When you integrate energies, they work together in the same direction. You have said ppl don't accept your watery reactions and you somehow try keep them till they go out without control.
I think you should work on that side of you. You have to seek whats good for you, doesn't matter what other ppl say or think.
You don't have to "control", but to correct bad behaviours, if you have deep emotions it's fine, it's your nature. Ppl can be upset by your flaws, but not by your nature.
Emotions are not equal to communication. You must communicate your emotions before the dam breaks. Work on this. You must find a way to say how you feel and 1) not feel guilty about it and 2) saying it in a way that the others also understand. It is not ok for you to blow or for anyone around you to witness that. Get the anger out by expressing how you "feel" and more and more it will become easier and you won't get to that point.
Posted by WitchmitchAriesPosted by BlackburnYou made me cry on this one. lol you hit a nerve for sure. I had someone tell me a long time ago that i go against my nature.
@WitchmitchAries, I say integration because a chart is a combination of energies, but you can feel them separately or unifyed. When you integrate energies, they work together in the same direction. You have said ppl don't accept your watery reactions and you somehow try keep them till they go out without control.
I think you should work on that side of you. You have to seek whats good for you, doesn't matter what other ppl say or think.
You don't have to "control", but to correct bad behaviours, if you have deep emotions it's fine, it's your nature. Ppl can be upset by your flaws, but not by your nature.click to expand
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Then you have smth to do, right? to (re)create yourself is the major project you can have : )
I hope all of this helps
Posted by tctaPosted by BlackburnI agree with working on integration but realize that it does take time and in the interim/meantime you can work on taking care of you first, and then also establishing/re-establishing relationships that are not toxic for you. You must take a step back / outside and view what is going on around you (you included) ...
@WitchmitchAries, I say integration because a chart is a combination of energies, but you can feel them separately or unifyed. When you integrate energies, they work together in the same direction. You have said ppl don't accept your watery reactions and you somehow try keep them till they go out without control.
I think you should work on that side of you. You have to seek whats good for you, doesn't matter what other ppl say or think.
You don't have to "control", but to correct bad behaviours, if you have deep emotions it's fine, it's your nature. Ppl can be upset by your flaws, but not by your nature.
Emotions are not equal to communication. You must communicate your emotions before the dam breaks. Work on this. You must find a way to say how you feel and 1) not feel guilty about it and 2) saying it in a way that the others also understand. It is not ok for you to blow or for anyone around you to witness that. Get the anger out by expressing how you "feel" and more and more it will become easier and you won't get to that point.
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Yes, I didn't mention the meantime, is just a task everybody should do. She asked me to talk about integration. I didn't say a lot of things because I don't really know her situation (if she's communicative or not, if she really "explodes" or just ppl perceive her emotions in a bad way etc.)
but, yes, I agree with you, communication is key, and getting rid of toxic ppl.
Posted by BlackburnOops, I didn't know I replied back to you but that's ok, I hope she reads all the messages. Your post was good for me because I have been sorting and working on integration myself and it's wild but I can see some light and seeing that it can work.Posted by tctaPosted by BlackburnI agree with working on integration but realize that it does take time and in the interim/meantime you can work on taking care of you first, and then also establishing/re-establishing relationships that are not toxic for you. You must take a step back / outside and view what is going on around you (you included) ...
@WitchmitchAries, I say integration because a chart is a combination of energies, but you can feel them separately or unifyed. When you integrate energies, they work together in the same direction. You have said ppl don't accept your watery reactions and you somehow try keep them till they go out without control.
I think you should work on that side of you. You have to seek whats good for you, doesn't matter what other ppl say or think.
You don't have to "control", but to correct bad behaviours, if you have deep emotions it's fine, it's your nature. Ppl can be upset by your flaws, but not by your nature.
Emotions are not equal to communication. You must communicate your emotions before the dam breaks. Work on this. You must find a way to say how you feel and 1) not feel guilty about it and 2) saying it in a way that the others also understand. It is not ok for you to blow or for anyone around you to witness that. Get the anger out by expressing how you "feel" and more and more it will become easier and you won't get to that point.
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Yes, I didn't mention the meantime, is just a task everybody should do. She asked me to talk about integration. I didn't say a lot of things because I don't really know her situation (if she's communicative or not, if she really "explodes" or just ppl perceive her emotions in a bad way etc.)
but, yes, I agree with you, communication is key, and getting rid of toxic ppl.
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Posted by BlackburnLol yes I understand where you're coming from.Posted by MadMarchRamPosted by BlackburnI feel like that sometimes
I have fire in my chart, that's why I questioned that actually,
I've always thought it would be more difficult for a fire sign to feel lifeless, and without purpose. Fire lights everything up, either with passion, euphoria or wrath
I would say your Scorp wets all that fire, I've known another Aries Sun Scorp Moon, and he was very depressive (he had reasons), as if his fire was missing because of all his water flooding in his chart.
Aries sun - Pisces mars, merc, Venus - Scorpio ascend ?
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This is just a theory, but I see it applies to me and many ppl I know; I think it happens because you are your sun (ego, your main personality) and the rest of planets are other faces of your personality, like, the sun is more present. That makes you feel you ARE fire, but your other placements are watery, so they modify your main nature, taming that fire. I've seen the same (the opposite) with water suns with fire placements.
I don't know if I explained myself right. It's like the black zebra with white stripes vs. White zebra with black stripes xD
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It's exactly how I feel most of the time, like my fire is being dulled by all the water. In fact it feels like I'm drowning at times.
But with age and experience I'm learning how to cope/deal with myself when this happens.
I agree with working on integration but realize that it does take time and in the interim/meantime you can work on taking care of you first, and then also establishing/re-establishing relationships that are not toxic for you. You must take a step back / outside and view what is going on around you (you included) ...
Emotions are not equal to communication. You must communicate your emotions before the dam breaks. Work on this. You must find a way to say how you feel and 1) not feel guilty about it and 2) saying it in a way that the others also understand. It is not ok for you to blow or for anyone around you to witness that. Get the anger out by expressing how you "feel" and more and more it will become easier and you won't get to that point.
There lies the catch 22. She's trying to control her emotions, which means they aren't being understood and if they aren't being understood, her Merc tend to not want to communicate them.
The root problem lies with not being understood and hence the communication is shut off.
understood by whom - if she doesn't understand them, then how is anyone else going to ? she needs to understand them first and then communicate them in a way that others will understand exactly what she is trying to say because she knows what she wants
Emotions are not equal to communication. You must communicate your emotions before the dam breaks. Work on this. You must find a way to say how you feel and 1) not feel guilty about it and 2) saying it in a way that the others also understand. It is not ok for you to blow or for anyone around you to witness that. Get the anger out by expressing how you "feel" and more and more it will become easier and you won't get to that point.
There lies the catch 22. She's trying to control her emotions, which means they aren't being understood and if they aren't being understood, her Merc tend to not want to communicate them.
The root problem lies with not being understood and hence the communication is shut off.
understood by whom - if she doesn't understand them, then how is anyone else going to ? she needs to understand them first and then communicate them in a way that others will understand exactly what she is trying to say because she knows what she wants
I don't think you have lost your fire - I think you are just in a time of re-evaluation in preparation for growth ...
If the people around you are not getting you and are taking advantage and when you get upset they wonder what the problem is ? then they are toxic for you and perhaps you can re-evaluate your friendships and family ties and decrease the time spent around those who say they know you but yet continue to fail to try to understand you.
If the people around you are not getting you and are taking advantage and when you get upset they wonder what the problem is ? then they are toxic for you and perhaps you can re-evaluate your friendships and family ties and decrease the time spent around those who say they know you but yet continue to fail to try to understand you.
Posted by sakuraflowersok - so there is then a reason she is not understood by othersPosted by tctaUnderstood by others
understood by whom - if she doesn't understand them, then how is anyone else going to ? she needs to understand them first and then communicate them in a way that others will understand exactly what she is trying to say because she knows what she wants
That's the nature of Taurus Mercury. The communication style has a purpose, so if it's perceived that there's no point from the very beginning, Taurus Merc tend to not want to engage, at all.click to expand
1) she does not understand herself enough to communicate effectively
and
2) which is the one that I feel is more the correct one - is that the others are toxic for her and simply can not and will not ever be able to understand and therefore she is a black swan and needs to find her true family
Understood by others
That's the nature of Taurus Mercury. The communication style has a purpose, so if it's perceived that there's no point from the very beginning, Taurus Merc tend to not want to engage, at all.
ok - so there is then a reason she is not understood by others
1) she does not understand herself enough to communicate effectively
and
2) which is the one that I feel is more the correct one - is that the others are toxic for her and simply can not and will not ever be able to understand and therefore she is a black swan and needs to find her true family
It's probably the second one. I have certain distance between me and certain family members for the same reason. Not toxic, but just simply won't understand me, in my opinion.
But because it's her family, I think she should be certain before she comes to the conclusion that her family members will never understand her.
yes, granted, it is difficult for most but I am here to say that it can happen with a good outcome - I had to get away from my family to survive and Aries are warriors so that is what is gurgling within her - she feels tied to the family but yet they are different than she is - they "see" differently - one can not change that so you make life for yourself elsewhere and surround yourself with people who are like you ...
time, and space will help - but mainly observance and acceptance of the things that cannot be changed - the things that "are" and the things that "are not"... it is then that we re-concentrate our efforts inward to heal and grow on our own as we should
You guys make me cry, good cry not bad one. I read everything you all have to say. thank you so much. i will respond to all of it later. right now my head is spinning and some nerves were touched today. really thank you
As an Aries, I must say physical activity is the most important thing. Being inactive due to the modern life style maybe the cause of one losing his or her fire. What you can do to regain that lost fire is to find a physical hobby (biking, running, mountain climbing, kick boxing,...) to get your blood flowing, your adrenaline pumping, your mind away from negative thought and you will think positively again.
Posted by sakuraflowersI thought she was Mercury Aries?
@WitchmitchAries
@Ram416 has more of the same placements (Sun, Moon, Merc, and Rising) with you than rest of us. I think maybe she could understand and help you more on that.
Posted by Hp199xI sooo miss the adrenaline high i use to get before they took haft my thyroid out. physical stuff was my number one way to deal with stress and clear my head. I love to push my body and see how far i could go, like a good run. But now i will get a sick feeling and some times my face gets white and i will crash for 3 to 4 hours after. so now i have to keep myself in check with that stuff. But you are so right in what you say.
As an Aries, I must say physical activity is the most important thing. Being inactive due to the modern life style maybe the cause of one losing his or her fire. What you can do to regain that lost fire is to find a physical hobby (biking, running, mountain climbing, kick boxing,...) to get your blood flowing, your adrenaline pumping, your mind away from negative thought and you will think positively again.
Posted by sakuraflowersmy communication style does have a purpose, i never thought of it that way. All i know is i am trying to work things out with the other person and find something that works for both of us. But if the other person not understanding where i am coming from then it makes it hard to find a compromise. to me it seem to end up there way. my deepest and biggest want is to be understood. i think everyone feels that way.Posted by WitchmitchAriesOuch >.> that type of response is the fastest to shut me down from talking 😐 ...
Its such a pain because they cant see it. so they just keep pushing their luck then when you do blow, they are like 'what are you making such a big deal for?' Really? 😆
But having said that ...Posted by WitchmitchAriesTaurus Mercury can be very stubborn once mind is made up, even more so if it's regarding to understanding. It's communication style always tend to have purpose, and hence it won't participate if there's no point from the very beginning.
Wow i do do that. its like it makes no since going their with them if they are not going to try and understand when i have gone out of my way to understand them. I will try, but thats really feeling like something that would be very very hard for me to do. because all the times i have tried in the past. I cant help feeling i am banging my head against a wall with it.
Because of this, I try to make sure I did my best to help the other person understand before I reach that conclusion, especially if they are family members. I have an 11th house Taurus Mercury and to be honest, most of the time, I don't feel understood while I always try to understand the other person. I think this placement though, like others, deep down wants to be understood. So I try many times before I get to that point, even if those are futile attempts.click to expand
Posted by sakuraflowers@Feral_doe has Mercury RX in Taurus as wellPosted by Ram416Mercury RX in Taurus, 3 degreesPosted by sakuraflowersI thought she was Mercury Aries?
@WitchmitchAries
@Ram416 has more of the same placements (Sun, Moon, Merc, and Rising) with you than rest of us. I think maybe she could understand and help you more on that.click to expand
Posted by tctaYour right, but its one of those thing that is easier said then done. You made a lot of very good points.
I don't think you have lost your fire - I think you are just in a time of re-evaluation in preparation for growth ...
If the people around you are not getting you and are taking advantage and when you get upset they wonder what the problem is ? then they are toxic for you and perhaps you can re-evaluate your friendships and family ties and decrease the time spent around those who say they know you but yet continue to fail to try to understand you.
Posted by tcta2 hit home for me. The ones i care the most for, like my mom, i have accept she will never understand me. but it still hurts and i just have to live with that.Posted by sakuraflowersok - so there is then a reason she is not understood by othersPosted by tctaUnderstood by others
understood by whom - if she doesn't understand them, then how is anyone else going to ? she needs to understand them first and then communicate them in a way that others will understand exactly what she is trying to say because she knows what she wants
That's the nature of Taurus Mercury. The communication style has a purpose, so if it's perceived that there's no point from the very beginning, Taurus Merc tend to not want to engage, at all.
1) she does not understand herself enough to communicate effectively
and
2) which is the one that I feel is more the correct one - is that the others are toxic for her and simply can not and will not ever be able to understand and therefore she is a black swan and needs to find her true family
click to expand
Posted by Ram416what do i do just start messaging Feral_doe?Posted by sakuraflowers@Feral_doe has Mercury RX in Taurus as wellPosted by Ram416Mercury RX in Taurus, 3 degreesPosted by sakuraflowersI thought she was Mercury Aries?
@WitchmitchAries
@Ram416 has more of the same placements (Sun, Moon, Merc, and Rising) with you than rest of us. I think maybe she could understand and help you more on that.click to expand
Happy New Year to everyone and thank you all so much for your post. I hope your new year starts off Good and Strong.
Posted by FirstDecanTaurianWomen0428Posted by WitchmitchAriesHappy New Year's eve woman. Cheers bae.
Happy New Year to everyone and thank you all so much for your post. I hope your new year starts off Good and Strong.click to expand
I hope everyone had a great new year. I am going to start this new year off with all the stuff that was said in this post to help me get my fire burning bright again. I think the biggest thing that help was being understood and everyone really wanting to help me out. Thank you so much. Lets set 2017 on FIRE!! 😆
Posted by bmoon8one thing i can say about love is dont look for it. it will find you. but even when it does there still is work that needs to be done in the relationship. Some how i lost myself in mine. I love him but he does understand me most of the time. So i am still learning too. lol one thing i can say about dating it helps you to learn about yourself. what works and what doesnt.
In a way, I can relate, especially when it comes to love. I don't know if I just haven't met the one who I feel chemistry / a spark with or if I just can't feel the spark when it comes to love. I was with a Cancer in 2015, but didn't feel in love with her or a spark. I liked her, but it never went beyond that and I found a way to end the relationship. She was wanting to hear "I love you" and we were only a month into the relationship. I have been on dates since then, but haven't felt the spark with anyone. I just feel like I am going through the motions of dating.
ok - so there is then a reason she is not understood by others
1) she does not understand herself enough to communicate effectively
and
2) which is the one that I feel is more the correct one - is that the others are toxic for her and simply can not and will not ever be able to understand and therefore she is a black swan and needs to find her true family
2 hit home for me. The ones i care the most for, like my mom, i have accept she will never understand me. but it still hurts and i just have to live with that.
From the other post, yes it is a double edged sword - guilt on the one end for not complying/providing what she wants and guilt on the other end for doing just that.
And you do have to live with that - I was born into that as well and do understand that part completely because I am still living with it even though my mother has passed and I'm almost 60. I've lived with that my entire life and should be writing a book because I only hope to help others through this horrible mess.
I knew from a very early age that my family was not right - entirely dysfunctional - and I pulled away and tried to stay away but it is difficult. I survived well enough but I believe it was only because I did pull away. Had I not pulled away, I would still be living in the same small town like my siblings, sheltered and oblivious.
Feel free to PM me if you like to talk further.
1) she does not understand herself enough to communicate effectively
and
2) which is the one that I feel is more the correct one - is that the others are toxic for her and simply can not and will not ever be able to understand and therefore she is a black swan and needs to find her true family
2 hit home for me. The ones i care the most for, like my mom, i have accept she will never understand me. but it still hurts and i just have to live with that.
From the other post, yes it is a double edged sword - guilt on the one end for not complying/providing what she wants and guilt on the other end for doing just that.
And you do have to live with that - I was born into that as well and do understand that part completely because I am still living with it even though my mother has passed and I'm almost 60. I've lived with that my entire life and should be writing a book because I only hope to help others through this horrible mess.
I knew from a very early age that my family was not right - entirely dysfunctional - and I pulled away and tried to stay away but it is difficult. I survived well enough but I believe it was only because I did pull away. Had I not pulled away, I would still be living in the same small town like my siblings, sheltered and oblivious.
Feel free to PM me if you like to talk further.
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