SagLib
@SagLib
9 Years
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Posted by VenusAquarius
I don't know what level of friendship you had before dating but I would say with 4 years as friends first; the fact that he is being cryptic, would be insulting to me. It would fill me with anxiety so much that I would let him fade himself.
The words "patient and wait" sounds like game to me.
Nevertheless, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.

Posted by SagLibPosted by VenusAquarius
I don't know what level of friendship you had before dating but I would say with 4 years as friends first; the fact that he is being cryptic, would be insulting to me. It would fill me with anxiety so much that I would let him fade himself.
The words "patient and wait" sounds like game to me.
Nevertheless, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.
THIS IS WHAT I AM FEELING!!!!!! I am highly insulted. And when I reached out to our mutual friend he said "he's probably chasing money" as if that is an answer.
And I do question the "love" at this point, because he would just send emojis. Like what kind of stress are you under?!?!?!click to expand
Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibPosted by VenusAquariusTHIS IS WHAT I AM FEELING!!!!!! I am highly insulted. And when I reached out to our mutual friend he said "he's probably chasing money" as if that is an answer.
I don't know what level of friendship you had before dating but I would say with 4 years as friends first; the fact that he is being cryptic, would be insulting to me. It would fill me with anxiety so much that I would let him fade himself.
The words "patient and wait" sounds like game to me.
Nevertheless, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.
And I do question the "love" at this point, because he would just send emojis. Like what kind of stress are you under?!?!?!
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Unless he's a stockbroker, lawyer, doctor, corporate exec., or drug-dealer.... don't know what's so stressful he can't express it.click to expand


Posted by SagLibPosted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibPosted by VenusAquariusTHIS IS WHAT I AM FEELING!!!!!! I am highly insulted. And when I reached out to our mutual friend he said "he's probably chasing money" as if that is an answer.
I don't know what level of friendship you had before dating but I would say with 4 years as friends first; the fact that he is being cryptic, would be insulting to me. It would fill me with anxiety so much that I would let him fade himself.
The words "patient and wait" sounds like game to me.
Nevertheless, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.
And I do question the "love" at this point, because he would just send emojis. Like what kind of stress are you under?!?!?!
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Unless he's a stockbroker, lawyer, doctor, corporate exec., or drug-dealer.... don't know what's so stressful he can't express it.
Does multiple entrepreneur count? 5 businesses and counting. But that ain't new.
I have never seen him stressed about work. He is so stressed that he messaged "Hey" instead of "Hey babe" and it made me furious.
I am also busy, not 5 businesses busy... but still busy. But not to the extent of not making time to talk or message. And I would never send him cryptic messages that does not explain the pressure I am under.
I am under a lot of stress myself these days. I would never think to behave in this way.click to expand
Posted by Walk_on_by
Probably doesn't want you to see him in a bad way because you'll lose attraction to him.
Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibPosted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibUnless he's a stockbroker, lawyer, doctor, corporate exec., or drug-dealer.... don't know what's so stressful he can't express it.Posted by VenusAquariusTHIS IS WHAT I AM FEELING!!!!!! I am highly insulted. And when I reached out to our mutual friend he said "he's probably chasing money" as if that is an answer.
I don't know what level of friendship you had before dating but I would say with 4 years as friends first; the fact that he is being cryptic, would be insulting to me. It would fill me with anxiety so much that I would let him fade himself.
The words "patient and wait" sounds like game to me.
Nevertheless, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.
And I do question the "love" at this point, because he would just send emojis. Like what kind of stress are you under?!?!?!
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Does multiple entrepreneur count? 5 businesses and counting. But that ain't new.
I have never seen him stressed about work. He is so stressed that he messaged "Hey" instead of "Hey babe" and it made me furious.
I am also busy, not 5 businesses busy... but still busy. But not to the extent of not making time to talk or message. And I would never send him cryptic messages that does not explain the pressure I am under.
I am under a lot of stress myself these days. I would never think to behave in this way.
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Yeah, that most definitely counts, lol. That's some serious business there. I feel him now.click to expand


Posted by SagLibPosted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibYeah, that most definitely counts, lol. That's some serious business there. I feel him now.Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibUnless he's a stockbroker, lawyer, doctor, corporate exec., or drug-dealer.... don't know what's so stressful he can't express it.Posted by VenusAquariusTHIS IS WHAT I AM FEELING!!!!!! I am highly insulted. And when I reached out to our mutual friend he said "he's probably chasing money" as if that is an answer.
I don't know what level of friendship you had before dating but I would say with 4 years as friends first; the fact that he is being cryptic, would be insulting to me. It would fill me with anxiety so much that I would let him fade himself.
The words "patient and wait" sounds like game to me.
Nevertheless, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.
And I do question the "love" at this point, because he would just send emojis. Like what kind of stress are you under?!?!?!
click to expand
Does multiple entrepreneur count? 5 businesses and counting. But that ain't new.
I have never seen him stressed about work. He is so stressed that he messaged "Hey" instead of "Hey babe" and it made me furious.
I am also busy, not 5 businesses busy... but still busy. But not to the extent of not making time to talk or message. And I would never send him cryptic messages that does not explain the pressure I am under.
I am under a lot of stress myself these days. I would never think to behave in this way.
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Hahahahaha... WHY!?!?! He has left me with no where to go. I am supposed to be planning our trip for next month and he is supposed to meet my parents in November.
I feel that he is trying to break up with me without letting me know.click to expand
Posted by IceStormPosted by SagLib
@IceStorm
Yeah I have no idea what he could be going through! It's so weird, its like whatever it is is so intense that he cannot and will not reach out to me or talk. I don't get it. I feel that I want to be patient as I promised I would be, but this feels ridiculous.
I mean the way my mind works, I would start wondering if he’s facing prison time 😅🤣 but I can be dramatic at times lol
No but really, 3 weeks is a long time and I understand needing space but he also has to be considerate of you. It’s definitely a tough call because you want to be supportive without being naive and these men make it hard to strike that balance 🥴
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Posted by VenusAquarius
Let me tell you a just a little bit about the Cancer/Capricorn axis. It's all about building material security and stability.
Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibPosted by VenusAquariusHahahahaha... WHY!?!?! He has left me with no where to go. I am supposed to be planning our trip for next month and he is supposed to meet my parents in November.Posted by SagLibYeah, that most definitely counts, lol. That's some serious business there. I feel him now.Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibUnless he's a stockbroker, lawyer, doctor, corporate exec., or drug-dealer.... don't know what's so stressful he can't express it.Posted by VenusAquariusTHIS IS WHAT I AM FEELING!!!!!! I am highly insulted. And when I reached out to our mutual friend he said "he's probably chasing money" as if that is an answer.
I don't know what level of friendship you had before dating but I would say with 4 years as friends first; the fact that he is being cryptic, would be insulting to me. It would fill me with anxiety so much that I would let him fade himself.
The words "patient and wait" sounds like game to me.
Nevertheless, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.
And I do question the "love" at this point, because he would just send emojis. Like what kind of stress are you under?!?!?!
click to expand
Does multiple entrepreneur count? 5 businesses and counting. But that ain't new.
I have never seen him stressed about work. He is so stressed that he messaged "Hey" instead of "Hey babe" and it made me furious.
I am also busy, not 5 businesses busy... but still busy. But not to the extent of not making time to talk or message. And I would never send him cryptic messages that does not explain the pressure I am under.
I am under a lot of stress myself these days. I would never think to behave in this way.
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I feel that he is trying to break up with me without letting me know.
click to expand
Yeah, does sound like he's putting on the breaks a bit with not letting you in and putting you on ice. That's why I said the words "patient and wait" sound like game to me. Who says that?click to expand

Posted by SagLibPosted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibYeah, does sound like he's putting on the breaks a bit with not letting you in and putting you on ice. That's why I said the words "patient and wait" sound like game to me. Who says that?Posted by VenusAquariusHahahahaha... WHY!?!?! He has left me with no where to go. I am supposed to be planning our trip for next month and he is supposed to meet my parents in November.Posted by SagLibYeah, that most definitely counts, lol. That's some serious business there. I feel him now.Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibUnless he's a stockbroker, lawyer, doctor, corporate exec., or drug-dealer.... don't know what's so stressful he can't express it.Posted by VenusAquariusTHIS IS WHAT I AM FEELING!!!!!! I am highly insulted. And when I reached out to our mutual friend he said "he's probably chasing money" as if that is an answer.
I don't know what level of friendship you had before dating but I would say with 4 years as friends first; the fact that he is being cryptic, would be insulting to me. It would fill me with anxiety so much that I would let him fade himself.
The words "patient and wait" sounds like game to me.
Nevertheless, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.
And I do question the "love" at this point, because he would just send emojis. Like what kind of stress are you under?!?!?!
click to expand
Does multiple entrepreneur count? 5 businesses and counting. But that ain't new.
I have never seen him stressed about work. He is so stressed that he messaged "Hey" instead of "Hey babe" and it made me furious.
I am also busy, not 5 businesses busy... but still busy. But not to the extent of not making time to talk or message. And I would never send him cryptic messages that does not explain the pressure I am under.
I am under a lot of stress myself these days. I would never think to behave in this way.
click to expand
I feel that he is trying to break up with me without letting me know.
click to expand
Well that's not cool. Because NOW I don't know what I should be doing?
He is definitely not letting me in... but I have a life too!
Who expects to put someone on ice and have them wait around for them? Does he think I will wait on him? I don't get it.
It was good a moment ago. I am hella confused, because I don't see why we all of a sudden have a problem.click to expand

Posted by TxOgal
This is him being a Cancer man staying in his shell.... could never understand them
Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibPosted by VenusAquariusWell that's not cool. Because NOW I don't know what I should be doing?Posted by SagLibYeah, does sound like he's putting on the breaks a bit with not letting you in and putting you on ice. That's why I said the words "patient and wait" sound like game to me. Who says that?Posted by VenusAquariusHahahahaha... WHY!?!?! He has left me with no where to go. I am supposed to be planning our trip for next month and he is supposed to meet my parents in November.Posted by SagLibYeah, that most definitely counts, lol. That's some serious business there. I feel him now.Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibUnless he's a stockbroker, lawyer, doctor, corporate exec., or drug-dealer.... don't know what's so stressful he can't express it.Posted by VenusAquariusTHIS IS WHAT I AM FEELING!!!!!! I am highly insulted. And when I reached out to our mutual friend he said "he's probably chasing money" as if that is an answer.
I don't know what level of friendship you had before dating but I would say with 4 years as friends first; the fact that he is being cryptic, would be insulting to me. It would fill me with anxiety so much that I would let him fade himself.
The words "patient and wait" sounds like game to me.
Nevertheless, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.
And I do question the "love" at this point, because he would just send emojis. Like what kind of stress are you under?!?!?!
click to expand
Does multiple entrepreneur count? 5 businesses and counting. But that ain't new.
I have never seen him stressed about work. He is so stressed that he messaged "Hey" instead of "Hey babe" and it made me furious.
I am also busy, not 5 businesses busy... but still busy. But not to the extent of not making time to talk or message. And I would never send him cryptic messages that does not explain the pressure I am under.
I am under a lot of stress myself these days. I would never think to behave in this way.
click to expand
I feel that he is trying to break up with me without letting me know.
click to expand
He is definitely not letting me in... but I have a life too!
Who expects to put someone on ice and have them wait around for them? Does he think I will wait on him? I don't get it.
It was good a moment ago. I am hella confused, because I don't see why we all of a sudden have a problem.
click to expand
Like I said in my first post, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.
Being shut out
Put on ice
With holding information
Sporadic communication
Cryptic responses
All a no-go. In a marriage, I'd be on meds.
Sidenote: I know that there is a game to slowly get you used to this shit (the list above) so that when they are really doing something base, you won't know. You accept the behavior, the conditioning, now... expect it regularly.click to expand

Posted by SagLibPosted by TxOgal
This is him being a Cancer man staying in his shell.... could never understand them
He actually came out of his "shell" a moment ago, and I really don't know how to take it. He is checking up on me because he misses me. This is confusing.... I stood firm on asking why he disappeared and he said he will call me later today.
So this "shell" is really a thing? I understand needing a moment to regroup... but hiding in a cave for this long is odd.click to expand

Posted by SagLibPosted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibLike I said in my first post, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.Posted by VenusAquariusWell that's not cool. Because NOW I don't know what I should be doing?Posted by SagLibYeah, does sound like he's putting on the breaks a bit with not letting you in and putting you on ice. That's why I said the words "patient and wait" sound like game to me. Who says that?Posted by VenusAquariusHahahahaha... WHY!?!?! He has left me with no where to go. I am supposed to be planning our trip for next month and he is supposed to meet my parents in November.Posted by SagLibYeah, that most definitely counts, lol. That's some serious business there. I feel him now.Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibUnless he's a stockbroker, lawyer, doctor, corporate exec., or drug-dealer.... don't know what's so stressful he can't express it.Posted by VenusAquariusTHIS IS WHAT I AM FEELING!!!!!! I am highly insulted. And when I reached out to our mutual friend he said "he's probably chasing money" as if that is an answer.
I don't know what level of friendship you had before dating but I would say with 4 years as friends first; the fact that he is being cryptic, would be insulting to me. It would fill me with anxiety so much that I would let him fade himself.
The words "patient and wait" sounds like game to me.
Nevertheless, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.
And I do question the "love" at this point, because he would just send emojis. Like what kind of stress are you under?!?!?!
click to expand
Does multiple entrepreneur count? 5 businesses and counting. But that ain't new.
I have never seen him stressed about work. He is so stressed that he messaged "Hey" instead of "Hey babe" and it made me furious.
I am also busy, not 5 businesses busy... but still busy. But not to the extent of not making time to talk or message. And I would never send him cryptic messages that does not explain the pressure I am under.
I am under a lot of stress myself these days. I would never think to behave in this way.
click to expand
I feel that he is trying to break up with me without letting me know.
click to expand
He is definitely not letting me in... but I have a life too!
Who expects to put someone on ice and have them wait around for them? Does he think I will wait on him? I don't get it.
It was good a moment ago. I am hella confused, because I don't see why we all of a sudden have a problem.
click to expand
Being shut out
Put on ice
With holding information
Sporadic communication
Cryptic responses
All a no-go. In a marriage, I'd be on meds.
Sidenote: I know that there is a game to slowly get you used to this shit (the list above) so that when they are really doing something base, you won't know. You accept the behavior, the conditioning, now... expect it regularly.
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I honestly hate games... and I really don't like the secrecy. I am an open book and I don't make it difficult for him to know me. As friends, I know him. As a lover.... this is too intense.
We should have stayed friends.... but the connection feels really strong.click to expand
Posted by TxOgalPosted by SagLibPosted by VenusAquariusI honestly hate games... and I really don't like the secrecy. I am an open book and I don't make it difficult for him to know me. As friends, I know him. As a lover.... this is too intense.Posted by SagLibLike I said in my first post, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.Posted by VenusAquariusWell that's not cool. Because NOW I don't know what I should be doing?Posted by SagLibYeah, does sound like he's putting on the breaks a bit with not letting you in and putting you on ice. That's why I said the words "patient and wait" sound like game to me. Who says that?Posted by VenusAquariusHahahahaha... WHY!?!?! He has left me with no where to go. I am supposed to be planning our trip for next month and he is supposed to meet my parents in November.Posted by SagLibYeah, that most definitely counts, lol. That's some serious business there. I feel him now.Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibUnless he's a stockbroker, lawyer, doctor, corporate exec., or drug-dealer.... don't know what's so stressful he can't express it.Posted by VenusAquariusTHIS IS WHAT I AM FEELING!!!!!! I am highly insulted. And when I reached out to our mutual friend he said "he's probably chasing money" as if that is an answer.
I don't know what level of friendship you had before dating but I would say with 4 years as friends first; the fact that he is being cryptic, would be insulting to me. It would fill me with anxiety so much that I would let him fade himself.
The words "patient and wait" sounds like game to me.
Nevertheless, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.
And I do question the "love" at this point, because he would just send emojis. Like what kind of stress are you under?!?!?!
click to expand
Does multiple entrepreneur count? 5 businesses and counting. But that ain't new.
I have never seen him stressed about work. He is so stressed that he messaged "Hey" instead of "Hey babe" and it made me furious.
I am also busy, not 5 businesses busy... but still busy. But not to the extent of not making time to talk or message. And I would never send him cryptic messages that does not explain the pressure I am under.
I am under a lot of stress myself these days. I would never think to behave in this way.
click to expand
I feel that he is trying to break up with me without letting me know.
click to expand
He is definitely not letting me in... but I have a life too!
Who expects to put someone on ice and have them wait around for them? Does he think I will wait on him? I don't get it.
It was good a moment ago. I am hella confused, because I don't see why we all of a sudden have a problem.
click to expand
Being shut out
Put on ice
With holding information
Sporadic communication
Cryptic responses
All a no-go. In a marriage, I'd be on meds.
Sidenote: I know that there is a game to slowly get you used to this shit (the list above) so that when they are really doing something base, you won't know. You accept the behavior, the conditioning, now... expect it regularly.
click to expand
We should have stayed friends.... but the connection feels really strong.
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Don't be hard on yourself.. I can totally relate to what you're saying here cause I thought of the same thing about cancer ex bf, but you know what? if it didn't happen, you will keep wondering about it and it will be much more difficult for you thinking about the what ifs..click to expand

Posted by SagLibPosted by TxOgalPosted by SagLibPosted by VenusAquariusI honestly hate games... and I really don't like the secrecy. I am an open book and I don't make it difficult for him to know me. As friends, I know him. As a lover.... this is too intense.Posted by SagLibLike I said in my first post, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.Posted by VenusAquariusWell that's not cool. Because NOW I don't know what I should be doing?Posted by SagLibYeah, does sound like he's putting on the breaks a bit with not letting you in and putting you on ice. That's why I said the words "patient and wait" sound like game to me. Who says that?Posted by VenusAquariusHahahahaha... WHY!?!?! He has left me with no where to go. I am supposed to be planning our trip for next month and he is supposed to meet my parents in November.Posted by SagLibYeah, that most definitely counts, lol. That's some serious business there. I feel him now.Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibUnless he's a stockbroker, lawyer, doctor, corporate exec., or drug-dealer.... don't know what's so stressful he can't express it.Posted by VenusAquariusTHIS IS WHAT I AM FEELING!!!!!! I am highly insulted. And when I reached out to our mutual friend he said "he's probably chasing money" as if that is an answer.
I don't know what level of friendship you had before dating but I would say with 4 years as friends first; the fact that he is being cryptic, would be insulting to me. It would fill me with anxiety so much that I would let him fade himself.
The words "patient and wait" sounds like game to me.
Nevertheless, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.
And I do question the "love" at this point, because he would just send emojis. Like what kind of stress are you under?!?!?!
click to expand
Does multiple entrepreneur count? 5 businesses and counting. But that ain't new.
I have never seen him stressed about work. He is so stressed that he messaged "Hey" instead of "Hey babe" and it made me furious.
I am also busy, not 5 businesses busy... but still busy. But not to the extent of not making time to talk or message. And I would never send him cryptic messages that does not explain the pressure I am under.
I am under a lot of stress myself these days. I would never think to behave in this way.
click to expand
I feel that he is trying to break up with me without letting me know.
click to expand
He is definitely not letting me in... but I have a life too!
Who expects to put someone on ice and have them wait around for them? Does he think I will wait on him? I don't get it.
It was good a moment ago. I am hella confused, because I don't see why we all of a sudden have a problem.
click to expand
Being shut out
Put on ice
With holding information
Sporadic communication
Cryptic responses
All a no-go. In a marriage, I'd be on meds.
Sidenote: I know that there is a game to slowly get you used to this shit (the list above) so that when they are really doing something base, you won't know. You accept the behavior, the conditioning, now... expect it regularly.
click to expand
We should have stayed friends.... but the connection feels really strong.
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Don't be hard on yourself.. I can totally relate to what you're saying here cause I thought of the same thing about cancer ex bf, but you know what? if it didn't happen, you will keep wondering about it and it will be much more difficult for you thinking about the what ifs..
Well he sent a bunch of text messages a moment ago.. somewhat revealing what his problem was.
It started off with being work related, and than I pressed him on his silence; asking him if he wanted to break things off. He started off by saying I "deserve better" and that he was not going to go anywhere.
Told him to choose a side and that I am not sticking around to be friends with him.
So this was a mix between work stressing him out and him feeling that I deserve better because he wasn't there for me when I needed him.
Told him that I was disappointed with his antics and if he wanted to break things off he should have took a different approach... a mature one. And he is insisting that he is not breaking it off.
I told him I was going to take some time for myself to re-evaluate the relationship, and he ended it by stating that he "still loves me" and will call me when he is done with work.
Urgh!click to expand

Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibPosted by VenusAquariusWell that's not cool. Because NOW I don't know what I should be doing?Posted by SagLibYeah, does sound like he's putting on the breaks a bit with not letting you in and putting you on ice. That's why I said the words "patient and wait" sound like game to me. Who says that?Posted by VenusAquariusHahahahaha... WHY!?!?! He has left me with no where to go. I am supposed to be planning our trip for next month and he is supposed to meet my parents in November.Posted by SagLibYeah, that most definitely counts, lol. That's some serious business there. I feel him now.Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibUnless he's a stockbroker, lawyer, doctor, corporate exec., or drug-dealer.... don't know what's so stressful he can't express it.Posted by VenusAquariusTHIS IS WHAT I AM FEELING!!!!!! I am highly insulted. And when I reached out to our mutual friend he said "he's probably chasing money" as if that is an answer.
I don't know what level of friendship you had before dating but I would say with 4 years as friends first; the fact that he is being cryptic, would be insulting to me. It would fill me with anxiety so much that I would let him fade himself.
The words "patient and wait" sounds like game to me.
Nevertheless, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.
And I do question the "love" at this point, because he would just send emojis. Like what kind of stress are you under?!?!?!
click to expand
Does multiple entrepreneur count? 5 businesses and counting. But that ain't new.
I have never seen him stressed about work. He is so stressed that he messaged "Hey" instead of "Hey babe" and it made me furious.
I am also busy, not 5 businesses busy... but still busy. But not to the extent of not making time to talk or message. And I would never send him cryptic messages that does not explain the pressure I am under.
I am under a lot of stress myself these days. I would never think to behave in this way.
click to expand
I feel that he is trying to break up with me without letting me know.
click to expand
He is definitely not letting me in... but I have a life too!
Who expects to put someone on ice and have them wait around for them? Does he think I will wait on him? I don't get it.
It was good a moment ago. I am hella confused, because I don't see why we all of a sudden have a problem.
click to expand
Like I said in my first post, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.
Being shut out
Put on ice
With holding information
Sporadic communication
Cryptic responses
All a no-go. In a marriage, I'd be on meds.
Sidenote: I know that there is a game to slowly get you used to this shit (the list above) so that when they are really doing something base, you won't know. You accept the behavior, the conditioning, now... expect it regularly.click to expand
Posted by TxOgalPosted by SagLibPosted by TxOgalPosted by SagLibDon't be hard on yourself.. I can totally relate to what you're saying here cause I thought of the same thing about cancer ex bf, but you know what? if it didn't happen, you will keep wondering about it and it will be much more difficult for you thinking about the what ifs..Posted by VenusAquariusI honestly hate games... and I really don't like the secrecy. I am an open book and I don't make it difficult for him to know me. As friends, I know him. As a lover.... this is too intense.Posted by SagLibLike I said in my first post, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.Posted by VenusAquariusWell that's not cool. Because NOW I don't know what I should be doing?Posted by SagLibYeah, does sound like he's putting on the breaks a bit with not letting you in and putting you on ice. That's why I said the words "patient and wait" sound like game to me. Who says that?Posted by VenusAquariusHahahahaha... WHY!?!?! He has left me with no where to go. I am supposed to be planning our trip for next month and he is supposed to meet my parents in November.Posted by SagLibYeah, that most definitely counts, lol. That's some serious business there. I feel him now.Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibUnless he's a stockbroker, lawyer, doctor, corporate exec., or drug-dealer.... don't know what's so stressful he can't express it.Posted by VenusAquariusTHIS IS WHAT I AM FEELING!!!!!! I am highly insulted. And when I reached out to our mutual friend he said "he's probably chasing money" as if that is an answer.
I don't know what level of friendship you had before dating but I would say with 4 years as friends first; the fact that he is being cryptic, would be insulting to me. It would fill me with anxiety so much that I would let him fade himself.
The words "patient and wait" sounds like game to me.
Nevertheless, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.
And I do question the "love" at this point, because he would just send emojis. Like what kind of stress are you under?!?!?!
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Does multiple entrepreneur count? 5 businesses and counting. But that ain't new.
I have never seen him stressed about work. He is so stressed that he messaged "Hey" instead of "Hey babe" and it made me furious.
I am also busy, not 5 businesses busy... but still busy. But not to the extent of not making time to talk or message. And I would never send him cryptic messages that does not explain the pressure I am under.
I am under a lot of stress myself these days. I would never think to behave in this way.
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I feel that he is trying to break up with me without letting me know.
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He is definitely not letting me in... but I have a life too!
Who expects to put someone on ice and have them wait around for them? Does he think I will wait on him? I don't get it.
It was good a moment ago. I am hella confused, because I don't see why we all of a sudden have a problem.
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Being shut out
Put on ice
With holding information
Sporadic communication
Cryptic responses
All a no-go. In a marriage, I'd be on meds.
Sidenote: I know that there is a game to slowly get you used to this shit (the list above) so that when they are really doing something base, you won't know. You accept the behavior, the conditioning, now... expect it regularly.
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We should have stayed friends.... but the connection feels really strong.
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Well he sent a bunch of text messages a moment ago.. somewhat revealing what his problem was.
It started off with being work related, and than I pressed him on his silence; asking him if he wanted to break things off. He started off by saying I "deserve better" and that he was not going to go anywhere.
Told him to choose a side and that I am not sticking around to be friends with him.
So this was a mix between work stressing him out and him feeling that I deserve better because he wasn't there for me when I needed him.
Told him that I was disappointed with his antics and if he wanted to break things off he should have took a different approach... a mature one. And he is insisting that he is not breaking it off.
I told him I was going to take some time for myself to re-evaluate the relationship, and he ended it by stating that he "still loves me" and will call me when he is done with work.
Urgh!
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eh this is typical Cancer man ...sigh
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Posted by Disneygirl
Wanting you to be okay with being stonewalled is not love. Everyone has a choice to give clarity. Him refusing to give that for you for weeks is not fair and will most likely continue now that this behavior has started it will become a cycle again. If you’re okay with that stress that’s up to you but he sounds like a narcissist who wanted to keep you waiting because they don’t like when people leave their audience

Posted by SagLibPosted by TxOgalPosted by SagLibPosted by TxOgalPosted by SagLibDon't be hard on yourself.. I can totally relate to what you're saying here cause I thought of the same thing about cancer ex bf, but you know what? if it didn't happen, you will keep wondering about it and it will be much more difficult for you thinking about the what ifs..Posted by VenusAquariusI honestly hate games... and I really don't like the secrecy. I am an open book and I don't make it difficult for him to know me. As friends, I know him. As a lover.... this is too intense.Posted by SagLibLike I said in my first post, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.Posted by VenusAquariusWell that's not cool. Because NOW I don't know what I should be doing?Posted by SagLibYeah, does sound like he's putting on the breaks a bit with not letting you in and putting you on ice. That's why I said the words "patient and wait" sound like game to me. Who says that?Posted by VenusAquariusHahahahaha... WHY!?!?! He has left me with no where to go. I am supposed to be planning our trip for next month and he is supposed to meet my parents in November.Posted by SagLibYeah, that most definitely counts, lol. That's some serious business there. I feel him now.Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by SagLibUnless he's a stockbroker, lawyer, doctor, corporate exec., or drug-dealer.... don't know what's so stressful he can't express it.Posted by VenusAquariusTHIS IS WHAT I AM FEELING!!!!!! I am highly insulted. And when I reached out to our mutual friend he said "he's probably chasing money" as if that is an answer.
I don't know what level of friendship you had before dating but I would say with 4 years as friends first; the fact that he is being cryptic, would be insulting to me. It would fill me with anxiety so much that I would let him fade himself.
The words "patient and wait" sounds like game to me.
Nevertheless, I look at people's behavior when they claim "love" and see if it fits with my definition of love, especially in times of difficulty. If it doesn't fit, it's a no-go for a serious commitment.
And I do question the "love" at this point, because he would just send emojis. Like what kind of stress are you under?!?!?!
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Does multiple entrepreneur count? 5 businesses and counting. But that ain't new.
I have never seen him stressed about work. He is so stressed that he messaged "Hey" instead of "Hey babe" and it made me furious.
I am also busy, not 5 businesses busy... but still busy. But not to the extent of not making time to talk or message. And I would never send him cryptic messages that does not explain the pressure I am under.
I am under a lot of stress myself these days. I would never think to behave in this way.
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I feel that he is trying to break up with me without letting me know.
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He is definitely not letting me in... but I have a life too!
Who expects to put someone on ice and have them wait around for them? Does he think I will wait on him? I don't get it.
It was good a moment ago. I am hella confused, because I don't see why we all of a sudden have a problem.
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Being shut out
Put on ice
With holding information
Sporadic communication
Cryptic responses
All a no-go. In a marriage, I'd be on meds.
Sidenote: I know that there is a game to slowly get you used to this shit (the list above) so that when they are really doing something base, you won't know. You accept the behavior, the conditioning, now... expect it regularly.
click to expand
We should have stayed friends.... but the connection feels really strong.
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Well he sent a bunch of text messages a moment ago.. somewhat revealing what his problem was.
It started off with being work related, and than I pressed him on his silence; asking him if he wanted to break things off. He started off by saying I "deserve better" and that he was not going to go anywhere.
Told him to choose a side and that I am not sticking around to be friends with him.
So this was a mix between work stressing him out and him feeling that I deserve better because he wasn't there for me when I needed him.
Told him that I was disappointed with his antics and if he wanted to break things off he should have took a different approach... a mature one. And he is insisting that he is not breaking it off.
I told him I was going to take some time for myself to re-evaluate the relationship, and he ended it by stating that he "still loves me" and will call me when he is done with work.
Urgh!
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eh this is typical Cancer man ...sigh
It's really up to you in the end what you want to do, it's good you're going to re evaluate things, this is totally for your benefit
What's typical? The avoidance?click to expand
Posted by cersei
Idk I feel like he is doing his best to reach out to you even if it’s for weeks at a time, at least he didn’t ghost you. Because he’s having a difficult time just try to be patient for a while. If you love him you can try to keep yourself busy. Some ppl shut themselves off from the world when they’re going through something. It does make it hard for the ppl around them for sure, but how much do you like him? If he’s good to you and you like him just wait for him for a bit, I’d say give it a few weeks and then reach out to him and ask him where you guys stand. Just be completely honest with him and tell him you are confused where the relationship is going, and that you need to know where you stand. That will probably give you your answer
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Just think about how you want to be treated if being treated this way is okay with you because you like him that much then it’s up to you but definitely don’t allow yourself to be cast aside and picked up whenever he feels like it going forward in my opinion. How are things now?
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It’s emotionally cruel because you always have the option to give a person clarity. Refusing to give that to you and making you now wait more weeks is almost emotional abuse. He has the capacity to tell you to wait therefore he could just as easily tell you what the actual problem is. It’s definitely not healthy but unfortunately is a pattern I’ve seen with them

Posted by Disneygirl
When someone wants to believe what they’re doing is right or how they’re handling something is right they make it so they can’t hear opinions about it. Therefore with cancers they will shut you out, avoid speak to you to dismiss you or just enough to keep you there. His feelings for you are probably uncertain now who knows what caused it but instead of telling you that he’s just treating you that way and making sure how he’s handling it keeps him in control for example being distant avoidant stonewalling keeping you in limbo all these things keep him in control of you guys communication. Therefore he can keep treating you this way and you have to deal with it because he’s made it so you can’t get his behavior to change or get the clarity of “why” by not being willing to participate in a conversation about it until weeks from now or “in person”. The concerning thing is that once this pattern starts with them it’s a tortuous thing to deal with and truthfully can drive you crazy bc they make things so much harder than they need to be by acting this way. Instead of allowing him the call the shots like asking if HE wants to break up and waiting for HIM to talk instead if I were you I would mirror and take back the control. He can become the one to seek clarity from you. He’s not an icon he’s a regular human being who isn’t above yoi so why should he get to mistreat you this way and you follow along and wait in return? No I would take him literally. He wants to avoid you dismiss too keep you on hold…? Then be dismissed. Don’t reach out again do not seek him or his conversation.
Posted by SagLibPosted by Disneygirl
When someone wants to believe what they’re doing is right or how they’re handling something is right they make it so they can’t hear opinions about it. Therefore with cancers they will shut you out, avoid speak to you to dismiss you or just enough to keep you there. His feelings for you are probably uncertain now who knows what caused it but instead of telling you that he’s just treating you that way and making sure how he’s handling it keeps him in control for example being distant avoidant stonewalling keeping you in limbo all these things keep him in control of you guys communication. Therefore he can keep treating you this way and you have to deal with it because he’s made it so you can’t get his behavior to change or get the clarity of “why” by not being willing to participate in a conversation about it until weeks from now or “in person”. The concerning thing is that once this pattern starts with them it’s a tortuous thing to deal with and truthfully can drive you crazy bc they make things so much harder than they need to be by acting this way. Instead of allowing him the call the shots like asking if HE wants to break up and waiting for HIM to talk instead if I were you I would mirror and take back the control. He can become the one to seek clarity from you. He’s not an icon he’s a regular human being who isn’t above yoi so why should he get to mistreat you this way and you follow along and wait in return? No I would take him literally. He wants to avoid you dismiss too keep you on hold…? Then be dismissed. Don’t reach out again do not seek him or his conversation.
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Are you going to give it a time limit and then insist he be honest with you?
I would …

Posted by SagLibPosted by MyStarsShine
Are you going to give it a time limit and then insist he be honest with you?
I would …
I should give a time limit, but I don't want to waste any more time. He already had 3 weeks.click to expand
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by SagLibPosted by MyStarsShine
Are you going to give it a time limit and then insist he be honest with you?
I would …
I should give a time limit, but I don't want to waste any more time. He already had 3 weeks.
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Maybe give it another week and take it from
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Posted by SagLibPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by SagLibMaybe give it another week and take it fromPosted by MyStarsShine
Are you going to give it a time limit and then insist he be honest with you?
I would …
I should give a time limit, but I don't want to waste any more time. He already had 3 weeks.
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there?
He is responsive now... he messaged to check on me and wished me a good day.
He also explained a little of what was going on with him and work, and said he will explain the rest when we see each other. Even ended the conversation with "Love you" and a heart.
Twisted.. now I feel like the crazy one.click to expand

Posted by SagLibPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by SagLibMaybe give it another week and take it fromPosted by MyStarsShine
Are you going to give it a time limit and then insist he be honest with you?
I would …
I should give a time limit, but I don't want to waste any more time. He already had 3 weeks.
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there?
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He is responsive now... he messaged to check on me and wished me a good day.
He also explained a little of what was going on with him and work, and said he will explain the rest when we see each other. Even ended the conversation with "Love you" and a heart.
Twisted.. now I feel like the crazy one.click to expand
Posted by SagLibPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by SagLibMaybe give it another week and take it fromPosted by MyStarsShine
Are you going to give it a time limit and then insist he be honest with you?
I would …
I should give a time limit, but I don't want to waste any more time. He already had 3 weeks.
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there?
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He is responsive now... he messaged to check on me and wished me a good day.
He also explained a little of what was going on with him and work, and said he will explain the rest when we see each other. Even ended the conversation with "Love you" and a heart.
Twisted.. now I feel like the crazy one.click to expand

Posted by SagLibPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by SagLibPosted by MyStarsShineHe is responsive now... he messaged to check on me and wished me a good day.Posted by SagLibMaybe give it another week and take it fromPosted by MyStarsShine
Are you going to give it a time limit and then insist he be honest with you?
I would …
I should give a time limit, but I don't want to waste any more time. He already had 3 weeks.
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there?
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He also explained a little of what was going on with him and work, and said he will explain the rest when we see each other. Even ended the conversation with "Love you" and a heart.
Twisted.. now I feel like the crazy one.
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Sometimes a little bit of time ….
When are ye meeting up?
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Posted by IceStormPosted by SagLibPosted by DisneygirlI am not okay with being treated this way, and I told him so.
Just think about how you want to be treated if being treated this way is okay with you because you like him that much then it’s up to you but definitely don’t allow yourself to be cast aside and picked up whenever he feels like it going forward in my opinion. How are things now?
I am just sitting with confusion. He left this morning on a business trip and I didn't get to see him. He told me that he wants to talk "in person" when he comes back in 2 weeks. I felt overwhelmed with not knowing what he wants now, I told him if he wants to break up he should just say so and not drag it out. He said that is not a topic he is currently talking about and said that we should talk in person.
I ended up snapping at him, telling him that it was unfair that he is leaving me in limbo.
This situation is letting me know that I also have things that I need to work out with myself. It's brought to light that I have some insecurities and issues. I love him dearly, however I don't know if this is healthy, with me feeling this unsettled. I don't like being left in the dark like this, it's very uncomfortable for me. Not only did I get weeks of silence and "you deserve better". Now I am getting I don't want to break up, but we need to talk in person.
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As a nurse, I’m wondering if he has a new (serious) diagnosis. See, this is how my brain works as an overthinker. lol
But seriously.. 🤔
He’s saying it’s not that he wants to break up, but says he is going through some things and is emotionally distant and avoiding having a hard conversation. It must be a serious conversation that he wants to have because he wants to have it in person. I hope it’s not a serious diagnosis. Just try to keep an open mind. Not saying you need to “wait” on anyone but definitely try to keep your mind open to other possibilities that have nothing to do with you.click to expand

Posted by SagLibPosted by SagLibPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by SagLibSometimes a little bit of time ….Posted by MyStarsShineHe is responsive now... he messaged to check on me and wished me a good day.Posted by SagLibMaybe give it another week and take it fromPosted by MyStarsShine
Are you going to give it a time limit and then insist he be honest with you?
I would …
I should give a time limit, but I don't want to waste any more time. He already had 3 weeks.
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there?
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He also explained a little of what was going on with him and work, and said he will explain the rest when we see each other. Even ended the conversation with "Love you" and a heart.
Twisted.. now I feel like the crazy one.
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When are ye meeting up?
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First week of October. It's a bit of a wait... he left the country for work.click to expand
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how are things with this guy now?
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He told me that he was facing a very difficult time in his life and that he was going to need some time to himself. I gave him his time, and he texted me 8 days later, said he was still facing a difficult time and that he would call me to tell me what was going on and that work is stressing him.
I sent him a message telling him that I was worried about what was going on, he said he is ok and that he will call me to explain. It has been 3 weeks! He doesn't respond or view my text messages or call. Last message he said that life is hard and that he will "tell me" everything but I need to be "patient and wait" for him to explain.
I find it unnerving because we had plans to do things like travel and meet family members before the end of the year. Now I am sitting in limbo.
I have no idea if I should be taking this as a sign to move on, because if he cared about me he shouldn't find it this hard to communicate and leave me in complete silence.
What is this?