reading your insight on libras has been so me ,76 yrs of wisdom is a gift that is wonderful to have access to
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If we stay it is for entirely selfish reasons though. So, that equalises the two parties in the relationship. Just not for the same reasons. But then I doubt you will ever find two people being in one (the same) relationship for exactly the same reason...

LOL!!! Bubba, I am 35.
Sorry Queen It says your 76, never the less you still have a lot of knowledge in my opinion. i cant speak for others but you sure put your finger on my personality and i was very suprised to say the least. it has helped me understand better who i am andwhy i do and have done the things that i have in my relationships thanks

Libra love sure is sucking today!

LOL! I know, I have 76 on my profile. No problem bubba... I have had my share of experience with Libra guys. I genuinely like them, something about them that keeps me interested. There is this connection on so many levels. Kind of weird coming from a scorp huh? They can be the best friends ever too.
Some days, I think I know them and some days I don't ***sigh***
HP, yeah a sucky Libra love day for me too. 😢
Some days, I think I know them and some days I don't ***sigh***
HP, yeah a sucky Libra love day for me too. 😢
Girls, what's up?

I won't go into detail, but just say that I really don't like the Libra aspect of professing their love for you one day and then acting two-faced in front of their friends and saying something different to them.

it's perfectly OK for them to go somewhere and not expect us to know where they're going or with whom, but the moment, you pull a slight disappearing act, they pull a double standard and expect you to answer to them.
Yes, I'm venting at the moment, but I have valid reasons.
Yes, I'm venting at the moment, but I have valid reasons.

Hmmmm....
Your Libra is perhaps checking with you whether you blindly trust him - by not questioning anything. But secretly he probably wants you to call him on it so that he can reveal that his time away from you was entirely innocent.
"I won't go into detail, but just say that I really don't like the Libra aspect of professing their love for you one day and then acting two-faced in front of their friends and saying something different to them."
He is managing his friends - not you...
He is managing his friends - not you...

***Your Libra is perhaps checking with you whether you blindly trust him - by not questioning anything. But secretly he probably wants you to call him on it so that he can reveal that his time away from you was entirely innocent.***
Doubt it. How about it isn't a big deal probably to him, until you do it. Yeah, that is more like it.
Doubt it. How about it isn't a big deal probably to him, until you do it. Yeah, that is more like it.
Either way it is not a big deal...

I beg to differ. You should do unto others as you would like them to do unto you. Not do one thing and if the same thing is done to you flip out... Not fair.

Personally I try to level with my mate, something I do don't make them quite comfortable then I see how we can come to an agreement, instead of stopping what I do completely. However, if they turn around and feel it is okay to do the exact same thing to me. Then, screw it.
HP get in touch with Alcheme, there is some pretty big and wierd astrological events happening on top of each other and they aren't so fun. One of them is a Venus retrograde which both of you are probably ruled by, by and large so things dealing with love are going to get a little shakey. Not just on the relationship aspect but on a personal level. there are several other retrogrades comming up too. I am being hit by all of them but I know whats going on so it makes it a lot easier to deal with.
Nico - I want to read about this too! Where do I go for more?

Maybe this is why Baby is so down. I was yesterday but am great today.
Same here... have had tears in my eyes yesetrday and today...
I want what I want and I am not getting it.
I want what I want and I am not getting it.

Same symptoms. 😢
Sorry to hear, honey. I've also been feeling very sorry for myself.
"Also" as in addition to the tears. Not assuming you're feeling that way...

Not sorry for myself per se. Feeling let down some.

Thanks, Nic. I will contact her.
In terms of he's managing his friends, not me: I am completely aware of this. I absolutely cannot stand hypocracy and if you say something to me, you damn sure make sure it's consistent to what you tell others.
In terms of he's managing his friends, not me: I am completely aware of this. I absolutely cannot stand hypocracy and if you say something to me, you damn sure make sure it's consistent to what you tell others.
But he is different from you and that's OK. In fact, it's unavoidable...
Zodiacs are a tossed salad and I cannot see that changing any time soon.
Zodiacs are a tossed salad and I cannot see that changing any time soon.

***I absolutely cannot stand hypocracy and if you say something to me, you damn sure make sure it's consistent to what you tell others.***
As long as you think there is a better way to handle things than what your libra have been doing, you will only make things worse. Whatever he does will have its own reason and you probably wont understand it even if he care to explain everything. Better trust his judgment than your own thoughts.
As long as you think there is a better way to handle things than what your libra have been doing, you will only make things worse. Whatever he does will have its own reason and you probably wont understand it even if he care to explain everything. Better trust his judgment than your own thoughts.

Nic is correct. On starting in the beginning of July to July 27th, Venus began "slowing down" in preparation for its retrograde station on July 27th, from that period to Sept 8th it will appear to be moving backward from the persepctive of Earth (retrograde). Then, it will direct station (stations mean that a planet appears to stand still) and begin moving forward. A retrograde period is generally from the point it turned backward until it moves forward back to the same point, but the slow down periods (before and after) still have an effect and are called shadow periods.
During a retrograde, the issues involving the planet go wonky. Mostly on a personal level, things become internalized and introspective and retrograde periods are periods meant to reflect and learn about yourself from. But, on an external level, concepts of craziness involving the planets ruling issues tend to reign. For example, considering we are talking about a Venus retrograde, they suggest not getting your hair majorly changed or doing any shopping as the vast majority of people's aesthetic sense will be hindered. Most everyone will be affected by the Venus retrograde (though, I have read those will natal retrograde planets will actually do a bit better when the same planet transits to retrograde), but some will be affected more than others. Those with natal planets in the degrees between 16 degrees Leo and 4 degrees Virgo will be significantly effected, as will most Libras and Tauruses, as that is your sun sign's ruler.
For general information about this specific Venus retrograde, these are two good articles:
http://www.astrologycom.com/venusret.html<BR> http://www.astrologycom.com/sleepingbeauty.html<BR>
To find out how / where it will specifically effect you, find out your planets it will transit over (any between 16 degrees Leo to 4 degrees Virgo, if any) and what house it will be in for you (which would apply for everyone even if it will not transit of oneof your planets). Then look up the information you found in this link (houses are listed first, then planets):
http://www.cafeastrology.com/transits_venusretrograde.html<BR>
The "retrograde station" interpretations will apply for the period it is moving backwards, and the "direct station" interpretations will apply once it moves forward again. Also, disregard the fact that article is for a 2005 retrograde and jump right to the interpretations, they would apply no matter the details of the exact retrograde.
During a retrograde, the issues involving the planet go wonky. Mostly on a personal level, things become internalized and introspective and retrograde periods are periods meant to reflect and learn about yourself from. But, on an external level, concepts of craziness involving the planets ruling issues tend to reign. For example, considering we are talking about a Venus retrograde, they suggest not getting your hair majorly changed or doing any shopping as the vast majority of people's aesthetic sense will be hindered. Most everyone will be affected by the Venus retrograde (though, I have read those will natal retrograde planets will actually do a bit better when the same planet transits to retrograde), but some will be affected more than others. Those with natal planets in the degrees between 16 degrees Leo and 4 degrees Virgo will be significantly effected, as will most Libras and Tauruses, as that is your sun sign's ruler.
For general information about this specific Venus retrograde, these are two good articles:
http://www.astrologycom.com/venusret.html<BR> http://www.astrologycom.com/sleepingbeauty.html<BR>
To find out how / where it will specifically effect you, find out your planets it will transit over (any between 16 degrees Leo to 4 degrees Virgo, if any) and what house it will be in for you (which would apply for everyone even if it will not transit of oneof your planets). Then look up the information you found in this link (houses are listed first, then planets):
http://www.cafeastrology.com/transits_venusretrograde.html<BR>
The "retrograde station" interpretations will apply for the period it is moving backwards, and the "direct station" interpretations will apply once it moves forward again. Also, disregard the fact that article is for a 2005 retrograde and jump right to the interpretations, they would apply no matter the details of the exact retrograde.

Beyond the Venus retrograde (from approximately July 27 - Oct 11, shadow period starting at the beginning of July):
- Venus's retrograde will cause it to conjunct with Saturn three times. Saturn is generally being considered the most malefic planet, though not quite so. It is just the planet of learning things the hard way, if you aren't willing to learn them the easy way.
- Saturn changes signs into Virgo Sept 8 (this happens once every two years).
- Mercury will retrograde in Scorpio (9 degrees Scorpio to 23 degrees Libra) Oct 11 - Nov 1, shadow period starting Sept 22 and extending to Nov 17.
- Mars will retrograde in Cancer (12 degrees Cancer to 24 degrees Gemini) Nov 15 - Apr 4 2008. I don't know the shadow period for this transit. Article: http://www.astrologycom.com/marsret.html<BR> - Saturn will retrograde in Virgo (8 degrees Virgo to 1 degree Virgo) Dec 19 - May 3 2008.
The most significant retrograde periods are generally Mercury (3 times a year), Venus (every 18 months), and Mars (every 2 years). I listed Saturn just because of its malefic nature and the fact that it is connecting with Venus's retrograde so many times, whose on retrograde covered some of those same degrees.
Also, if you have any planets that will be affected by the Venus retrograde, you may want to check them out on this page as well, as Saturn wil more than likely be transiting over them as well in the upcoming months.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/saturntransitaspects.html
- Venus's retrograde will cause it to conjunct with Saturn three times. Saturn is generally being considered the most malefic planet, though not quite so. It is just the planet of learning things the hard way, if you aren't willing to learn them the easy way.
- Saturn changes signs into Virgo Sept 8 (this happens once every two years).
- Mercury will retrograde in Scorpio (9 degrees Scorpio to 23 degrees Libra) Oct 11 - Nov 1, shadow period starting Sept 22 and extending to Nov 17.
- Mars will retrograde in Cancer (12 degrees Cancer to 24 degrees Gemini) Nov 15 - Apr 4 2008. I don't know the shadow period for this transit. Article: http://www.astrologycom.com/marsret.html<BR> - Saturn will retrograde in Virgo (8 degrees Virgo to 1 degree Virgo) Dec 19 - May 3 2008.
The most significant retrograde periods are generally Mercury (3 times a year), Venus (every 18 months), and Mars (every 2 years). I listed Saturn just because of its malefic nature and the fact that it is connecting with Venus's retrograde so many times, whose on retrograde covered some of those same degrees.
Also, if you have any planets that will be affected by the Venus retrograde, you may want to check them out on this page as well, as Saturn wil more than likely be transiting over them as well in the upcoming months.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/saturntransitaspects.html
It seems they love their friends more.

yes GodBless, they do love their friends, but they put their significant other in the forefront...
It's hard enough to get alone with them. They don't seem to have the time.
A heavy-hitting Libran is too much of a party girl for me.
A heavy-hitting Libran is too much of a party girl for me.
Yup that's the sucky part!!! They don't seem to have the time.
The other half will always be put before friends. WHEN IN LOVE etc...

Very true, when in love the other half comes first.
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