Is it possible for an average-looking guy to have a very pretty girlfriend?

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pics or it didn't happen!
It's true - tough, there's plenty of women out-there who can see beyond looks:

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Not wanting to be a nonbeliever but how are we supposed to know the context of these photos and the third one looks photoshopped. His head looks out of place with the background, I use photoshop myself and that looks mildly suspicious. Or it might be the lighting. Also the first and fourth ones are the most believable.
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Only the 4'th is PS. ^^
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Second pic is Flavio Briatore (Italian businessman) with Elisabetta Gregoraci.

He was the manager (Benetton and Renault later) who signed Michael Shumacher and discovered Fernando Alonso.

Tax evader.

On the whole, a shady character.

Reminds me of Anne Hathaway's fiasco. Wasn't her ex a fraud as well?
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He was and his name is Raffaello Follieri if a recall correctly.

If only I knew, at the time, she liked Italians I would have found a way to meet her. I'm not a fraud and also better looking, I can assure you 😆
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Golddiggers!!! Those men must have a whole lot of money!!
Yeah, that's quite likely with above cases. ^^ Even so, It's still the truth - ain't it (it's not about looks with those cases)? 🙂 Then, there's girls with daddy issues - who end-up whit much older men. ^^ And yeah, it's also true (i've seen enough cases) - that - there are plenty of women who are quite attractive - while their guys - not so much (not rich either) - but they have what it takes (personality wise) - to make their world go round. ^^ Tough... I've also witnessed cases where... the guys in question were not just unattractive, even personality wise - they proved to be really obnoxious (the girls in question were actually terrorized), broke too and even more than that - they were relaying on the girl for money (she would support both the rent and their entertainment) and yet... this girls would stick around - as if they couldn't find any better.... The only thing that i couldn't see was.... their tralala... 😄 So maybe it was that?! 😄
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Yes. Women are more likely to see beyond looks than men are. Not saying that men do not do this either, but it's more common among women since we are biologically more "emotional" than the average man. So our emotions lead us to look past "average" looks if the man has a good enough personality.
The trend is the opposite in online dating. Women are more into looks than men at first online.

I can see the emotional thing factoring in after first imoression has been made though.
This explains why I've never been into online dating 😛

Most guys I've dated in the past have been good looking... But it's not even something I focus on. I mostly focus on eyes and personality.

I've had crushes on chubby guys too - they were usually either very sweet or really funny! Personality goes a long way for me.
Por favor senorita. Anyone given the choice between the confident average guy and the hot confident guy would choose the latter. This is why plastic surgery is a shining light for those who can get it. Although your babies will still get your looks. 😐
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not true.. I'm in agreement wih Infinte8. Also what Rabbit menitoned.. if he can lay the pipe.. it DOES play a factor don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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Yes. Women are more likely to see beyond looks than men are. Not saying that men do not do this either, but it's more common among women since we are biologically more "emotional" than the average man. So our emotions lead us to look past "average" looks if the man has a good enough personality.
The trend is the opposite in online dating. Women are more into looks than men at first online.

I can see the emotional thing factoring in after first imoression has been made though.
This explains why I've never been into online dating 😛

Most guys I've dated in the past have been good looking... But it's not even something I focus on. I mostly focus on eyes and personality.

I've had crushes on chubby guys too - they were usually either very sweet or really funny! Personality goes a long way for me.
Por favor senorita. Anyone given the choice between the confident average guy and the hot confident guy would choose the latter. This is why plastic surgery is a shining light for those who can get it. Although your babies will still get your looks. 😐
Well, you are entitled to believe what you wish. But in my experience I've actually passed on several hot guys that couldn't hold a conversation and that I found rather dense or "empty" in the head. I honestly have very little patience for such types and just would easily forget about their looks. Sometimes I would just run away from them too. They would annoy me.

Ask @Tiziani about me... He KNOWS I'm an odd ball 😛
Ok sorry for the butthead remark but I meant if you take two individuals who were with the same qualifications the less better looking or fit guy loses out. But and this is a big but, most guys don't know shit about women or themselves and are entitled and have fantasies about what relationships are. So if men can understand that they can get the upper hand. But still generally humans are superficial beings. Give them two oranges that are the same size but one is deformed, they choose the one that isn't deformed.
Guys who know how to add value to their personality have the upper hand even on the good looking idiots who know how to do nothing.
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i choose the deformed orange.. because others don't not sure if you woul
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Everybody and I mean everybody considers looks as a factor. What determines who we hook up with is our level of self-esteem, which in turn determines our standard of beauty. For example, some really attractive women/men have shitty self esteem and therefore go for people not so attractive people because they think they can't do better. Ironically, it just so happens that people with shitty self esteem don't have a high standard of beauty.
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Yes. Women are more likely to see beyond looks than men are. Not saying that men do not do this either, but it's more common among women since we are biologically more "emotional" than the average man. So our emotions lead us to look past "average" looks if the man has a good enough personality.
The trend is the opposite in online dating. Women are more into looks than men at first online.

I can see the emotional thing factoring in after first imoression has been made though.
Very true. Also a close second is career advancement/education. $ $

I admit when I started online dating looks, career and education were big when deciding who to date..however, after dating a couple arrogant ass holes who didn't communicate well I realized no amount of good looks, money or title make me want a fucking douchebag...so I opened up my options and found much more enjoyment in dating average guys who work hard and have respect for women...and meet my emotional needs.
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I don't see how being good looking and making good money prevents a man from having respect for women or a likable personality as well.

I honestly don't see the dichotomy here.
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When men are significantly older, let's say 25+ years, to me it = sugar daddy. Most of those guys from earlier posts just looked old.
I think getting with a man with less stand-out features helps women feel more secure when it comes to worrying about competition from other women. I've heard this from women but it's not something they're going to readily talk about.
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Shhhhh, not many people know about this.

Don't spill the beans, it can pay dividends later in life 😛
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Yes, but I feel an average looking guy should have an average looking lover. Just my opinion.

Chances are of your an average looking guy with a way better looking mate it's Because that person is insecure about themselves, and likely indecisive on what they truly way. Not always, but usually.
It's true there might be some latent insecurity, although I disagree an average looking guy should only date an average looking girl.

I applaude the man who's able to land a better looking woman naturally.

It's the kind of effort that should be rewarded.


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Yes, but I feel an average looking guy should have an average looking lover. Just my opinion.

Chances are of your an average looking guy with a way better looking mate it's Because that person is insecure about themselves, and likely indecisive on what they truly way. Not always, but usually.
It's true there might be some latent insecurity, although I disagree an average looking guy should only date an average looking girl.

I applaude the man who's able to land a better looking woman naturally.

It's the kind of effort that should be rewarded.

where do you people live?

my god im telling you below avg men date hot women all the time

come to the west coast
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I live in a country where ordinary yet attractive women show great taste and refuse to date ugly men.

Thank God.
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When men are significantly older, let's say 25+ years, to me it = sugar daddy. Most of those guys from earlier posts just looked old.
I think getting with a man with less stand-out features helps women feel more secure when it comes to worrying about competition from other women. I've heard this from women but it's not something they're going to readily talk about.
Shhhhh, not many people know about this.

Don't spill the beans, it can pay dividends later in life 😛
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i have seen the opposite. attractive men are more faithful. so why go for less lol 😉
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http://www.themodernman.com/blog/12-common-mistakes-that-guys-make-with-women.html

1. Being too nice. - Women will not crumple because you have a damn opinion and challenge them mentally.

2. Being too easily impressed by women - I know my rack is awesome, I see it everyday. I even buy it clothing.

3. Thinking that he can buy her attraction or love - I got my own shit. Next.

4. Thinking that attracting her or seducing her is wrong - And this is how you friendzone yourself without any help from me.

5. Sharing his feelings before she is even properly attracted - Hug me, love me, call me George? Uh no.

6. Thinking that he has to have money or looks to get a girl - See #3 for money, if you are fugly on the inside, no amount of pretty package will save you

7. Doing whatever she wants in the hope that it will impress her and make her like him - No woman wants a "yes maam".

8. Being annoyed when women test, rather than seeing it as an opportunity - I'm testing because I'm interested, don't fuck up, #nopressure

9. Trying too hard to be liked - My Aqua Moon cringes at this.

10. Being insecure - AKA jealous and possessive, some women will cave, some will walk, and some will just claw your face off verbally, or for real....

11. Not even knowing what to do to succeed - Paralyzing inaction is not sexy, even if you are wrong as fuck, points for passion.

12. Making excuses rather than addressing the real issues - Not taking ownership of your shit.
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I will say this quote:

"Most men are going through life thinking that women are attracted to men for the same reasons that men are attracted to women. They assume that women are mostly attracted to a man’s physical appearance and that everything else is pretty much irrelevant, but that’s not the case at all."

It really isn't. Now there may be some shallow bitches, just like there are shallow men, but over all from the female point of view, a guy has to have that intangible "thing" that is specific to the woman. Maybe she likes some swagger, maybe she likes humor, point is those ladies of the average guy have been offered something that was tailored for them, and they made the effort.

It's kinda like, when you get a guy who has an above average piece of equipment, and little knowledge of what can be done with it, other than some pumping. No woman wants "that guy". Same for a guy who has an above average hotness, with little knowledge beyond maintaining it to get other pretty things.