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@VenusAquarius
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Posted by DonJohnsonPosted by VenusAquarius
It's so funny when you say that.
You wait like a drooling dog on these topics.
Your ridiculous attempts to mask your bigotry, homophobia, misogyny, with "stats," and self-professed logic.
Now you know why your chart has so many YODs.
This is the epitome of an emotional post.
0 logic. all emotional. and ends off with a cat lady astrology reading.
lmao i was like LMAOclick to expand


Posted by GetMisted
@DJ..
I don't think anyone here will say police officers aren't needed (except for maybe Damian). What myself.. And several other think is that they are very much needed, but should be held accountable for their fuckups, or reprimanded when they abuse their power. Of course, this is simply on the basis of individual officers.
However, there is a major issue stemming from the top down.. Starting with those that run the cities and states and the laws the create.. Down to the officers that are forced to enforce them. Creating an environment where the poor (mostly blacks in inner city areas) cannot survive without breaking laws and being force to pay huge fines.
It's a feed your family or run from the police and hope you make it type of senario.

Posted by DonJohnson
your post makes 0 logical sense and does not address any of my points. trying to argue a point i never made.
I never said there aren't ghettos everywhere. Of course there are Chinese ghettos or Indian ghettos. When the entire population is Chinese or Indian, then of course there will be rich and poor people. This goes without saying.
THE POINT is here. Now try to read and comprehend
Chinese and Indian people are not the lowest scrum wherever they roam. In Europe, in America, in Australia and even in the Carribeans.
Guess where all the black people live in HK? The chungking ghetto. Guess where all the black people live in the states? all the ghettos. Where ever you roam, a ghetto rises.
This is just a phenom the world over. It isn't a mindblowing concept that requires you to live in Murica to understand.
Do you grasp this?

Posted by GetMisted
I can give you example in the US?
Fort Washington, MD
Mitchellville, MD
Ladera Heights, CA
Hillcrest, NY
Kettering, MD
Elmont, NY
Olympia Fields, IL


Posted by GetMisted
@TrueCap..
Whether or not you defend or condemn the officers actions are not the point. It's that it has been drilled into the minds of the majority of American, that officers can do no wrong. We automatically give them the benefit of the doubt when something goes wrong. What that does, is allow the bad apples to squeek through and continue getting away with ill intent towards those they wish it be directed at.. Could be because of race, pure craziness, etc.
Yes.. There is an arguement to be had about police forces and black communities. Race has, and still is a major issue in this country. But for me, as a white middle/low class citizen struggling to make it on my own.. I can understand th plight of the black communitity. Not because I am black, but because I have been in the same situations with police based on the area I lived, car I drove, etc. When you're struggling, it can become a do or die way of life. I've been there.
With all that rambling being said.. We can't keep assuming that something a suspect (innocent or not) did to make the officer *react* the way they did. Sometimes people are just bad.. And we have to make sure they don't go unpunished, including cops.

Posted by truecapPosted by GetMisted
@TrueCap..
Whether or not you defend or condemn the officers actions are not the point. It's that it has been drilled into the minds of the majority of American, that officers can do no wrong. We automatically give them the benefit of the doubt when something goes wrong. What that does, is allow the bad apples to squeek through and continue getting away with ill intent towards those they wish it be directed at.. Could be because of race, pure craziness, etc.
Yes.. There is an arguement to be had about police forces and black communities. Race has, and still is a major issue in this country. But for me, as a white middle/low class citizen struggling to make it on my own.. I can understand th plight of the black communitity. Not because I am black, but because I have been in the same situations with police based on the area I lived, car I drove, etc. When you're struggling, it can become a do or die way of life. I've been there.
With all that rambling being said.. We can't keep assuming that something a suspect (innocent or not) did to make the officer *react* the way they did. Sometimes people are just bad.. And we have to make sure they don't go unpunished, including cops.
I can't argue with that and I don't disagree with you.
I just get hung up on the "why" of a situation. Maybe it's my journalism training.
I feel like issues can't be solved or prevented unless we find the why.click to expand

Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by truecapPosted by GetMisted
@TrueCap..
Whether or not you defend or condemn the officers actions are not the point. It's that it has been drilled into the minds of the majority of American, that officers can do no wrong. We automatically give them the benefit of the doubt when something goes wrong. What that does, is allow the bad apples to squeek through and continue getting away with ill intent towards those they wish it be directed at.. Could be because of race, pure craziness, etc.
Yes.. There is an arguement to be had about police forces and black communities. Race has, and still is a major issue in this country. But for me, as a white middle/low class citizen struggling to make it on my own.. I can understand th plight of the black communitity. Not because I am black, but because I have been in the same situations with police based on the area I lived, car I drove, etc. When you're struggling, it can become a do or die way of life. I've been there.
With all that rambling being said.. We can't keep assuming that something a suspect (innocent or not) did to make the officer *react* the way they did. Sometimes people are just bad.. And we have to make sure they don't go unpunished, including cops.
I can't argue with that and I don't disagree with you.
I just get hung up on the "why" of a situation. Maybe it's my journalism training.
I feel like issues can't be solved or prevented unless we find the why.
Whenever I don't understand the reason behind something, the why is... emotion.click to expand

Posted by truecapPosted by VenusAquariusPosted by truecapPosted by GetMisted
@TrueCap..
.
I can't argue with that and I don't disagree with you.
I just get hung up on the "why" of a situation. Maybe it's my journalism training.
I feel like issues can't be solved or prevented unless we find the why.
Whenever I don't understand the reason behind something, the why is... emotion.
I see the why more as logic. I can't understand unless I know the why behind something. Plus, human nature is interesting to me and getting down to the core of why helps me understand that person better (or a situation or a function or a law, etc).click to expand

Posted by DonJohnson
L M A O
why does Getmisted lie like this? it's most troubling.


Posted by truecapPosted by DAMEN VIPosted by truecapPosted by DAMEN VIPosted by truecap
What happened? Do you mind sharing? It's okay if you don't want to.
it was more than one incident and no i'd rather not speak on it, especially to people who have absoulutely no understanding of it or have ever experienced it.
I understand. You have history and your history bases how your viewpoint is shaped.
I just want to say this, though. Maybe in your neighborhood, cops are pigs, but remember that they're not all like that. There are a lot of them that are good, decent people.
It's like me saying all Geminis are bad because I've had really bad experiences with a few, but I know the majority aren't the same as the ones I know. Or someone hating black men because she got gang raped by a few - obviously not all black men like that.
I know the comparison isn't the same, but I hope you get the gist of what I'm saying. Try not to be a hater. You'll be healthier and happier.
*Hugs*
You should try telling your own race that..Hate is in your blood..its well documented throughout your history..especially southern whites
MY personal history? Or my region's history? Just because I'm a Texan, I have personal history...
yeah...now who's assuming?
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Posted by truecap
The point is, NONE of us have all the evidence. In fact, NONE of us should be commenting at all on this as we do not know everything we need to know to make an opinion.
Hugs to you all.
- And in debate - It's more interesting to argue against how you really feel. Just something to keep in mind before judgements are made against any user.

Posted by DonJohnson
look which groups are cheering on the anti-cop narrative.
L M A O
how typical.
the only reason you aren't robbed, raped and beaten is because of the police force. Society without order goes to the most primitive channel.
without that, handbone, ray ray and tyrone would run amuck into your house right now.

Posted by CluelessCancerPosted by DAMEN VIPosted by truecap
The point is, NONE of us have all the evidence. In fact, NONE of us should be commenting at all on this as we do not know everything we need to know to make an opinion.
Hugs to you all.
- And in debate - It's more interesting to argue against how you really feel. Just something to keep in mind before judgements are made against any user.
lmao @ the video not being enough evidence to make an opinion
lmao@ the fact that the cop LIED about specifics on the incident & tampered with evidence not being enough to make an opinion..
i didn't form a judgement towards you..you instantly thought that though because you're guilty
She's an unconscious racist. Too bad.click to expand

Posted by DonJohnson
your entire narrative is police is oppressing you. white man's fault.
you didn't write "pig" until just now to suit your own agenda.
you're too dumb to cover your tracks.
Posted by DonJohnson
it's all the same though... from Canada, to Europe to Asia to the USA.... the most ghetto group is consistent throughout the world.
this isn't just a USA phenom.
Posted by DonJohnson
I never said all blacks are ghetto. was never my point since the beginning.
EXCEPTIONS DO NOT MAKE THE RULE seem to really fall on deaf ears here. it's like you are arguing with yourself all over again.

Posted by partiallyimpartialPosted by seraphPosted by partiallyimpartialPosted by LillyBlossomPosted by seraph
Apparently there was also a struggle before the shooting, but no video of that. So far, anyway.
That does not change anything. The man was still unarmed and running AWAY from and not TOWARD the cop.
Yep.
it's better to let the dude get away
It's actually the duty of law enforcement to not let folks get away, especially if they've committed a felony (such as physically struggling against police.)
bro, you just said that even TOUCHING an officer can count as a felony assault. that means that a person touches a cops and runs away, LEGALLY a cop can kill them.
I'm SURE you don't have the letter of the law so far up your ass you're okay with that?
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Posted by GetMisted
But you and LIB refuse to believe what the DOJ found in cities like Ferguson.
A city that uses police forces to collect its dues and profit from the people that reside their, by means of unjust laws, fines, and jail time.
Posted by LetltBPosted by GetMisted
@DJ..
However, there is a major issue stemming from the top down.. Starting with those that run the cities and states and the laws the create.. Down to the officers that are forced to enforce them. Creating an environment where the poor (mostly blacks in inner city areas) cannot survive without breaking laws and being force to pay huge fines.
It's a feed your family or run from the police and hope you make it type of senario.
Horseshit. Every city, town in America has a system to help the poor. It's called Welfare and Medicaid. The middle class foots the bill. Food stamps, section 8 (roofs over heads), aid with heat where needed, free education and help with getting a job and a complete free ride to get there is available for all black, white, hispanic etc.. Don't wanna hear you have to victimize someone in order to feed your family. There's no excuse for breaking the law period. In fact those who think that way (ie victimize innocent people to feed their families) should be shipped to a 3rd world country to be reminded how well they have it here. I and millions of others foot the bill to prevent that kind of bullshit, so please don't justify unnecessary crime and pool blacks as victims of the people at the "top" who order me to pay for it. It's getting really fucking old.click to expand

Posted by seraph
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Posted by LillyBlossomPosted by seraph
Apparently there was also a struggle before the shooting, but no video of that. So far, anyway.
That does not change anything. The man was still unarmed and running AWAY from and not TOWARD the cop.
It actually can change things.
These are some of the things that can have an impact on the chances for a murder conviction (also keeping in mind that there are varying degrees of murder under the law, and also keeping in mind that a case can also be made for one of the manslaughter degrees, if he's found guilty of something.)click to expand

Posted by seraph
Once you see there was a "struggle" with police, that's an indication that Scott took the encounter to a place where use of deadly force was going to be on the table.
2. He ran.
A REALLY bad idea.
This seems to be a common feature of these deadly encounters (obviously.)
Running — especially after a "struggle" (resisting arrest, very likely inclusive of felony assault) — makes things much much worse, and can get you shot, especially if you've at any time "struggled" with the cop or otherwise resisted arrest. Once someone gets into a physical struggle with a cop, that's already cause for arrest.



Posted by seraph
A few scenes from these cop encounters that got posted here and elsewhere:
ADULT MALE is instructed to stay in the vehicle.
He bolts from the vehicle.
ADULT MALE is getting cuffed.
He fights police.
ADULT MALE is told to exit the vehicle.
He starts yapping at cops and refuses. He is then told SEVERAL MORE TIMES to exit the vehicle or force will be used to remove him.
He refuses and continues mouthing off.
Unpleasantness ensues.
The REAL tragedy in these encounters is that common sense was always there for the taking. It was always available.


Posted by GetMistedPosted by seraph
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There are cultural, historical causes for fear, mistrust, and the initial attitude that one has to "assert their rights" with police rather than just shut the fuck up for a few minutes and then be on their way. But EVERYONE is responsible for their own behaviour regardless — no matter ethnicity, skin colour, religion, personal history, cultural history, and so on. It REALLY IS time to grow up, especially if you've got a family, dependents, people who rely on your well-being and rational judgment.
A few scenes from these cop encounters that got posted here and elsewhere:
ADULT MALE is instructed to stay in the vehicle.
He bolts from the vehicle.
ADULT MALE is getting cuffed.
He fights police.
ADULT MALE is told to exit the vehicle.
He starts yapping at cops and refuses. He is then told SEVERAL MORE TIMES to exit the vehicle or force will be used to remove him.
He refuses and continues mouthing off.
Unpleasantness ensues.
The REAL tragedy in these encounters is that common sense was always there for the taking. It was always available.
The REAL tragedy is the use of police forces by cities/government to extort and profit of its citizens. And that is a world wide issue.. Not just in the US.
That is what has created the historical attitude towards police that you speak of.click to expand

Posted by GetMisted
FYI.. The officers reason for pulling Mr. Scott over was because his 3rd break light was out.
http://scstatehouse.gov/code/t56c005.php<BR>
SECTION 56-5-4510. Tail lamps required.
Every motor vehicle, trailer, semitrailer and pole trailer and any other vehicle which is being drawn at the end of a train of vehicles shall be equipped with at least one tail lamp mounted on the rear which, when lighted as herein required, shall emit a red light plainly visible from a distance of five hundred feet to the rear; provided, that in the case of a train of vehicles only the tail lamp on the rearmost vehicle need actually be seen from the distance specified.
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It was an unlawful stop to begin with.

Posted by truecapPosted by GetMisted
FYI.. The officers reason for pulling Mr. Scott over was because his 3rd break light was out.
http://scstatehouse.gov/code/t56c005.php<BR>
SECTION 56-5-4510. Tail lamps required.
Every motor vehicle, trailer, semitrailer and pole trailer and any other vehicle which is being drawn at the end of a train of vehicles shall be equipped with at least one tail lamp mounted on the rear which, when lighted as herein required, shall emit a red light plainly visible from a distance of five hundred feet to the rear; provided, that in the case of a train of vehicles only the tail lamp on the rearmost vehicle need actually be seen from the distance specified.
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It was an unlawful stop to begin with.
Oh please. Utter hogwash. It's not unlawful. I've been stopped for a broken taillight before. It's a safety issue. All I got was a reminder and a warning to get it fixed.click to expand



Posted by GetMistedPosted by truecapPosted by GetMisted
FYI.. The officers reason for pulling Mr. Scott over was because his 3rd break light was out.
http://scstatehouse.gov/code/t56c005.php<BR>
SECTION 56-5-4510. Tail lamps required.
Every motor vehicle, trailer, semitrailer and pole trailer and any other vehicle which is being drawn at the end of a train of vehicles shall be equipped with at least one tail lamp mounted on the rear which, when lighted as herein required, shall emit a red light plainly visible from a distance of five hundred feet to the rear; provided, that in the case of a train of vehicles only the tail lamp on the rearmost vehicle need actually be seen from the distance specified.
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It was an unlawful stop to begin with.
Oh please. Utter hogwash. It's not unlawful. I've been stopped for a broken taillight before. It's a safety issue. All I got was a reminder and a warning to get it fixed.
Again.. Like with Seraph, Im assuming you didn't have you car sniffed and strip searched for drugs (mind you there was nothing there), while your passengers watch you be humilated..
Not because the two required tail lamps were funtional (only two are requires in Arkansas).. But because my THIRD brake light was out.click to expand





Posted by GetMistedPosted by truecap
Probable cause gives them that right.
Look the role, be treated like the role.
(again, not saying you do)
Hmmm.. Really?
So next time you're dressed up for a night on the town, and an officer stops and detains you for prostitution charges..
You won't be offended, because you looked the part?
(Not saying you look it or do it btw)click to expand


Posted by GGPosted by Prince_PiscesPosted by truecap
Probable cause gives them that right.
Look the role, be treated like the role.
(again, not saying you do)
LOL! I think we see the same thing.
Truecap is a masterful troll! LOL, she was trying to play coy all through out the thread.
I imagine her and her little buddies squatting in some heavy wooded area drinking moonshine, swatting flies while cheering dj on, lol.click to expand


Posted by TwodrinkminimumPosted by DAMEN VI
facts: white supremacy is real and ever since the ending of slavery they have done whatever they could to break the black man
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its a long video, but somebody will watch it
This is where I start to have a problem ^^^ when OP or anyone else declares that the white man is trying to hold them back. Do you EVER take any accountability for yourself?
Even Hispanic who are newer to the US have a higher graduation rate (from High School) than African Americans. Hispanics even have a higher teen birth rate and still manage to graduate High School.
67% of African Americans grew up in a single parent household. The highest of any race. (25% of whites and 16% of Asians. And Hispanics at 42% ) Does the white man make you abandon your children?
How do you explain these stats?. I am not denying racism but where do you start to take accountability for yourself? You perpetuate the status quo and you have no desire to change it. Just post up here and be a passive activist. What do you actually do to improve the current state of affairs for African Americans? I'm guessing not a damn thing.
Self inflicted victimization. You are a victim because it is a convenient role for you and you're not outraged enough to change.
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Posted by truecap
I didn't say he WAS guilty. It's just that when someone automatically runs, it makes you look guilty.
Why not stay there and talk to the cop to explain to him your side of the story or eplain that you're innocent? Running, just makes you look bad.
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You wait like a drooling dog on these topics.
Your ridiculous attempts to mask your bigotry, homophobia, misogyny, with "stats," and self-professed logic.
Now you know why your chart has so many YODs.