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Why Don't Women 'Stalk' When Interested? (Page 2)
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... and she's a Gemini interested in astrology.
Posted by DMV
Isnt our original post asking for the same ego boost?
Ummm, no. It has nothing to do with ego strokes. I was simply wondering why women don't seem to express interest in the same way as men do-- and furthermore, how can they keep themselves from doing just that if they are head-over-heels into someone?
C'mon now people, how many times must I repeat myself? *sigh*
Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by DMVPosted by MellyMel909
Been there, done that. IME and IMO, guys that expect women to be the aggressor in relationships are usually not "aggressive" in most other areas of life either.
So, the guy that you have to ask out, is also usually the guy that you have: pick up (cause they don't have a car), pay for (cause they don't have "enough money"), and have over to your place all the time (cause they live with their parents).
I'm fine with sharing the burden once in a committed relationship, but I think initially, men should signal their interest by pursuing and women signal it by being receptive to the advances. Granted, everyone's different, but from experience: if a woman starts out doing all the leg work, it's only gonna snowball from there. Whereas if a man does most of the pursuing in the beginning, it ends up much more balanced several months in.
Thats what Patty the Millionaire Matchmaker says!
I love Patty!
I thought to direct people with love issue to the show... to just keep posting a link to the show. Sometimes I am outraged at some of the "types" on the show...particularly the "ageist" and the "perfectionists."click to expand
Them ageist r a peace of work.
Posted by DMVPosted by VenusAquariusPosted by DMVPosted by MellyMel909
Been there, done that. IME and IMO, guys that expect women to be the aggressor in relationships are usually not "aggressive" in most other areas of life either.
So, the guy that you have to ask out, is also usually the guy that you have: pick up (cause they don't have a car), pay for (cause they don't have "enough money"), and have over to your place all the time (cause they live with their parents).
I'm fine with sharing the burden once in a committed relationship, but I think initially, men should signal their interest by pursuing and women signal it by being receptive to the advances. Granted, everyone's different, but from experience: if a woman starts out doing all the leg work, it's only gonna snowball from there. Whereas if a man does most of the pursuing in the beginning, it ends up much more balanced several months in.
Thats what Patty the Millionaire Matchmaker says!
I love Patty!
I thought to direct people with love issue to the show... to just keep posting a link to the show. Sometimes I am outraged at some of the "types" on the show...particularly the "ageist" and the "perfectionists."
Them ageist r a peace of work.click to expand
Remember the female ageist that ran out of her show to get away from the guy that was very handsome and on age with her. The way she described the guy (through tears of horror), you would have thought Patty had set her up with the Crypt Keeper from Tales of the Crypt.
Posted by enfant_terriblePosted by DMV
And your a leo sun? You want and need your ego stroked daily. Like Nero eloquently put, maybe their just not into u.
And like I eloquently put it some posts ago, this is stricktly about those girls who I later found out WERE interested in me, either by eventually hooking up with them or finding out later through friends and acquaintences.click to expand
Maybe you shoulda showed more interest in them, I mean THEY r the prize, not you. Women do the picking. Stop being so lazy and passive and be the Hunter youre supposed to be.
How you ever thought that its Y-O-U that us sending out unclear signals? And the only women who can read those r Aries?
*Shoe*
Posted by DMVPosted by enfant_terriblePosted by DMV
And your a leo sun? You want and need your ego stroked daily. Like Nero eloquently put, maybe their just not into u.
And like I eloquently put it some posts ago, this is stricktly about those girls who I later found out WERE interested in me, either by eventually hooking up with them or finding out later through friends and acquaintences.
Maybe you shoulda showed more interest in them, I mean THEY r the prize, not you. Women do the picking. Stop being so lazy and passive and be the Hunter youre supposed to be.
How you ever thought that its Y-O-U that us sending out unclear signals? And the only women who can read those r Aries?click to expand
Aye, synastry I say.
Posted by enfant_terriblePosted by geminicandle
Anyways, I think it's the environment you are living in. Just like the weather, it is cold and predictable. I found both Scandi men and women (while beautiful to look at) shy, anti-social, not passionate and passive making them boring and dull in the process:/
Unless of course they get drunk, but where is the fun in that?
Put those speedos on and head to Italy or Greece or Croatia and find yourself a real woman, a Latin or Slavic chick!!😉
I wish I could say I hate it here, but these Swedish girls are hungry for some testosterone! The males are just so predictible, and then when they get drunk they lose their inhibitions and start howling by outside my window on their way back home from some lame party, ranting about how unfair it is that the immigrants are getting all that Swedish pussy... It's hilarious!!
But yeah, once a woman finally pins me down I'm sure it will be a Yugo chica. Or Xin, she's got those "pins" all ready.. 😛
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Me?
Posted by enfant_terriblePosted by DMV
Isnt our original post asking for the same ego boost?
Ummm, no. It has nothing to do with ego strokes. I was simply wondering why women don't seem to express interest in the same way as men do-- and furthermore, how can they keep themselves from doing just that if they are head-over-heels into someone?
C'mon now people, how many times must I repeat myself? *sigh*
click to expand
Like I said, your chart needs the strokes. Aint no shame, im a 5th house personality. I will take just about any compliment and turn a diss into a compliment. But unlike you, I call a shovel a shovel.
If your sitting staring at the phone wondering why hasnt ANYONE called me, why dont you pick up the phone call someone.
No not you, you're her evil twin. 😛
I do remeber that lady and she wasnt a spring chicken herself. She lost her shoe trying to get away from her.
Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by DMVPosted by enfant_terriblePosted by DMV
And your a leo sun? You want and need your ego stroked daily. Like Nero eloquently put, maybe their just not into u.
And like I eloquently put it some posts ago, this is stricktly about those girls who I later found out WERE interested in me, either by eventually hooking up with them or finding out later through friends and acquaintences.
Maybe you shoulda showed more interest in them, I mean THEY r the prize, not you. Women do the picking. Stop being so lazy and passive and be the Hunter youre supposed to be.
How you ever thought that its Y-O-U that us sending out unclear signals? And the only women who can read those r Aries?
Aye, synastry I say.click to expand
Yes
do men really like it when woman throw themselves at them tho? from my experience no they don't
Patty made be loud and obnoxious, but there some gold coming out her mouth.
@DMV: Have you ever dated a Scorpio chick? Come back when you have. They will display behaviour opposite to how they really feel, so if they like you they will act as if they have a major disliking for you.
I play with what you give me.
I play with what you give me.
Posted by Sag89
do men really like it when woman throw themselves at them tho? from my experience no they don't
I have alot of male friends and they tell me stories about women throwing themselves at them... as jokes. My husband tells me stories too. And based on their stories, I would say --- no.
Somehow, I think its a fantasy that becomes a joke to them in reality.
Posted by Sag89
do men really like it when woman throw themselves at them tho? from my experience no they don't
Imo, no. They walk all over the girl who thows herself at him and really give his time to the girl whose a bitch to him.
Posted by enfant_terrible
@DMV: Have you ever dated a Scorpio chick? Come back when you have. They will display behaviour opposite to how they really feel, so if they like you they will act as if they have a major disliking for you.
I play with what you give me.
Synastry-----> http://www.llewellyn.com/journal/article/2034
Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by Sag89
do men really like it when woman throw themselves at them tho? from my experience no they don't
I have alot of male friends and they tell me stories about women throwing themselves at them... as jokes. My husband tells me stories too. And based on their stories, I would say --- no.
Somehow, I think its a fantasy that becomes a joke to them in reality.click to expand
yeah exactly so this whole thread is like " if " lol
Posted by DMVPosted by Sag89
do men really like it when woman throw themselves at them tho? from my experience no they don't
Imo, no. They walk all over the girl who thows herself at him and really give his time to the girl whose a bitch to him.click to expand
exactly
so that is probably why women don't do it. thread solved. jk 😛
Posted by enfant_terrible
@DMV: Have you ever dated a Scorpio chick? Come back when you have. They will display behaviour opposite to how they really feel, so if they like you they will act as if they have a major disliking for you.
I play with what you give me.
I sure have dated a scorpio chick. Have you ever seen a scorp male go nuts? He turns into a scorpio chick.
Ahh I c, were getting somewhere now. like VIA said, youve got a problem with synastry. Your intial problem was coming in here with a blanket statment. If ur issue was with a scorpio woman, u shoudla said that but its clear you have trouble with expressing your own real thoughts and trying to convery that your interested in other people.
The scorpio chick in question was looking for that same constant assurnace and extra mile from you. You were looking for that from her.
Posted by VenusAquariusPosted by Sag89
do men really like it when woman throw themselves at them tho? from my experience no they don't
I have alot of male friends and they tell me stories about women throwing themselves at them... as jokes. My husband tells me stories too. And based on their stories, I would say --- no.
Somehow, I think its a fantasy that becomes a joke to them in reality.click to expand
Sadly..yes
Cmon water moon, I read you like a book.
Aye, I just got up from the computer and my husband told me he's going to go hang out for a while. I grabbed around the waist and gave a melodramatic, silent-film, over-the-top, "No." Then, I move my hand slowly, very slowly, upwards towards his face and gently stoked his cheek with one finger while looking anguished.
We both busted out laughing. I play-act being thirsty with him sometimes to get a laugh.
We both busted out laughing. I play-act being thirsty with him sometimes to get a laugh.
^awe
Posted by DMV
Cmon water moon, I read you like a book.
I really don't think you understood my original question. Nor have you read any of the answers I have given to other posters. If you had, you'd see that most of your assumptions were already covered... and that this is not about "a" Scorpio woman, that was just an example, I've had the same issue with all three Scorpio women (I get it, synastry!), but that's not what this is about either.....
Ah fuck it, why did I have to start a thread? Thanks for your input(s) nontheless 🙂
Posted by VenusAquarius
Aye, I just got up from the computer and my husband told me he's going to go hang out for a while. I grabbed around the waist and gave a melodramatic, silent-film, over-the-top, "No." Then, I move my hand slowly, very slowly, upwards towards his face and gently stoked his cheek with one finger while looking anguished.
We both busted out laughing. I play-act being thirsty with him sometimes to get a laugh.
He lubs it 🙂
Posted by enfant_terriblePosted by DMV
Cmon water moon, I read you like a book.
I really don't think you understood my original question. Nor have you read any of the answers I have given to other posters. If you had, you'd see that most of your assumptions were already covered... and that this is not about "a" Scorpio woman, that was just an example, I've had the same issue with all three Scorpio women (I get it, synastry!), but that's not what this is about either.....
Ah fuck it, why did I have to start a thread? Thanks for your input(s) nontheless 🙂click to expand
You started a thread cause you needed to know why a certain someone wasnt showing interest. Why she isnt calling, why she isnt "stalking"you like astrology says she should be.
There isnt a thing wrong with you...you just need to find someone, no wait..someone needs to find you and she needs to openly cling to you for dear life.
I need that 2. Honestly. But its an easier deal for me cause im a girl.
But I dont think id take that guy seriously. I need a lil game play, not a lot, but dont be a chump.
Posted by DMV
You started a thread cause you needed to know why a certain someone wasnt showing interest. Why she isnt calling, why she isnt "stalking"you like astrology says she should be.
Actually that's not the reason I started this thread AT ALL. I don't even have anyone in my life right now that I'm pursuing or that I'm particulary interested in. I guess that's why I started this thread, out of boredom... I've been tackling this question for quite some time now, the fact that in all my previous experience of girls who were actually interested in me, none of them did any of the shit that I do when I'm really into someone, before going for the kill. If they did it I would have noticed it, 'cause I do it myself, right?
I don't know who it is that astrology says should be stalking me either. Lol, stop jumping to conclusionos. So far you've been wrong 10 out of 10 times regardng where I come from with this shit. Anyway, I got my answer in the first couple of pages. From now on it's just for fun.. 😉
Posted by enfant_terrible
@DMV: Have you ever dated a Scorpio chick? Come back when you have. They will display behaviour opposite to how they really feel, so if they like you they will act as if they have a major disliking for you.
I play with what you give me.
< Scorp.
Chase- no
Stalk- no
Be obvious- no
Cool as a cucumber- sometimes...
Use jedi mind tricks- hell yes!
But I'm a bit of a softie too. I honestly won't act like I dislike someone if I actually like them... Maybe its just having good manners? And I am a bit of a flirt... Especially after a few wines (Aqua rising).
I do think MellyMel hit the nail on the head though. We are still drawn to 'strong' men. There are lots of articles about how men are becoming emasculated (not that I'm implying you are Enfant... Yes, we've all seen the pic!) and in some ways, perhaps in an evolutionary sense we still have a little cave man/ woman inside each of us. Women like to be assured of their value/ chased/ seen as a prize. Or something like that perhaps...?
And double snap for the desperate woman thing; men are always joking about that kind of girl. You men can't have it both ways...
P.S. I like the segue from the angry caps post on the scorp board- but you should've pointed that out to all the ladies in here first 🙂
Posted by CluelessCancer
I be "stalking" restaurants tho, like in true cancer fashion, i'm a foodie.
I laughed my ass off at this! My sister is a Cancer and we used to make jokes about how she would stalk pastry chefs 😄
Would you settle for a man who puts his pants on in the morning? 🙂
I might try it sometime...problem is, there isn't much around that make me want to stalk them 😛
I think what the OP is talking about as well is after the initial approach.
I've approached women. The problem is, no matter how entertaining or stimulating I made the conversation, there is still a "entertain me" vibe and they're mostly barely responsive.
Now I'm not saying all girls are like that. It is just my experience. My frustration is this if I'm busting my tail to keep away from the usual boring conversation and trying to put a girl at ease then why can't she reciprocate?
I've walked away from women in social situations because of having to do all of the leg work conversation-wise and they seemed disinterested. Then their friend will come to me later and say "Sara" has been wondering why you blew her off, she thought you liked her.
Well, you could have fooled me given the bored and disinterested vibe she was projecting. I agree men need to take ownership when it comes to the fairer sex. I know it's not like that for all, but some women suffer from major entitlement issues.
Thinking just cause they're physically attractive, that no effort should be made on their part. And it is men's fault for enabling this behavior due to fear of being alone or just wanting sex.
If more men were courageous and had a "It Takes To Tango" attitude, more women would be engaged in the interaction.
Again, I'm only saying this provided the guy doesn't provide boring conversation and is being a gentleman. If not, then those ladies have every to have a "bitch" shield.
I prefer a women to be a little aggressive when it comes to showing interest. And I pay for all my dates, DONT live with parents.
What is the prejudice toward men who have no cars? Some of us work two jobs to make ends meet, PLUS have money to pay for dates, gifts, etc. Don't get me wrong there are a lot of guys who are K-FEDS. But dont assume a man is a loser just because he doesn't have a car.
One of the other reasons I dont have a car right now is due to the injuries on my legs. I can drive, but don't feel comfortable yet that my legs have good response time. I'm trying to keep others safety in mind.
Also, cars take a lot of money out and can barely leave anything for dates. That is the other reason so I can pay for fun dates. I usually prefer to meet a girl somewhere if she has a car. But if I have to ride with her, I always reimburse her gas money if it is available to me.
I realize a lot of men don't do this, but it is a mistake to
I've approached women. The problem is, no matter how entertaining or stimulating I made the conversation, there is still a "entertain me" vibe and they're mostly barely responsive.
Now I'm not saying all girls are like that. It is just my experience. My frustration is this if I'm busting my tail to keep away from the usual boring conversation and trying to put a girl at ease then why can't she reciprocate?
I've walked away from women in social situations because of having to do all of the leg work conversation-wise and they seemed disinterested. Then their friend will come to me later and say "Sara" has been wondering why you blew her off, she thought you liked her.
Well, you could have fooled me given the bored and disinterested vibe she was projecting. I agree men need to take ownership when it comes to the fairer sex. I know it's not like that for all, but some women suffer from major entitlement issues.
Thinking just cause they're physically attractive, that no effort should be made on their part. And it is men's fault for enabling this behavior due to fear of being alone or just wanting sex.
If more men were courageous and had a "It Takes To Tango" attitude, more women would be engaged in the interaction.
Again, I'm only saying this provided the guy doesn't provide boring conversation and is being a gentleman. If not, then those ladies have every to have a "bitch" shield.
I prefer a women to be a little aggressive when it comes to showing interest. And I pay for all my dates, DONT live with parents.
What is the prejudice toward men who have no cars? Some of us work two jobs to make ends meet, PLUS have money to pay for dates, gifts, etc. Don't get me wrong there are a lot of guys who are K-FEDS. But dont assume a man is a loser just because he doesn't have a car.
One of the other reasons I dont have a car right now is due to the injuries on my legs. I can drive, but don't feel comfortable yet that my legs have good response time. I'm trying to keep others safety in mind.
Also, cars take a lot of money out and can barely leave anything for dates. That is the other reason so I can pay for fun dates. I usually prefer to meet a girl somewhere if she has a car. But if I have to ride with her, I always reimburse her gas money if it is available to me.
I realize a lot of men don't do this, but it is a mistake to
Think all men are the same.
In my experiences with introverted girls, all I've gotten is head games. I'm done with that.
Not saying extroverted women don't play head games, but they are more honest.
I've always gotten on better with women who are Fire Sun or Moons. Even if they have a moon that makes them somewhat introverted, they tend to be more direct and honest.
Unless a girl who comes along that is different, I'm done with the introverted ones. I've gotten too much heartache out of that due to their passive-aggressive nature.
Not saying extroverts are perfect, but what you see is what you get most of the time with them.
In my experiences with introverted girls, all I've gotten is head games. I'm done with that.
Not saying extroverted women don't play head games, but they are more honest.
I've always gotten on better with women who are Fire Sun or Moons. Even if they have a moon that makes them somewhat introverted, they tend to be more direct and honest.
Unless a girl who comes along that is different, I'm done with the introverted ones. I've gotten too much heartache out of that due to their passive-aggressive nature.
Not saying extroverts are perfect, but what you see is what you get most of the time with them.
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