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I hope someone can give me some insight.



I was in a relationship my now ex-boyfriend. He is a sag sun with leo moon and scorpio venus. I'm a gemini with a taurus moon and cancer venus.

The relationship was great we had a very deep connection. But when we did have a lot of arguments. We did try to understand eachother better and talk everything and the last 2 months everything was great and we didnt even argue.

My sag was talking about how happy he was and that he sees a future with me.



Suddenly 2 weeks ago he broke up with me after an argument. He was telling me that he has been doubting us the whole relationship and if he is doubting that means I'm not the one? I just can't wrap my head around this thought. After that he told me it was an emotional decision but he feels he needs to stick with it



I'm still confused because I don't even understand where this all is coming from as we have had these conversations with eachother; about how he sees the relationship and our future together. 2 weeks ago he couldnt live with me now he is done. He says he needs to work on himself and that it has nothing to do with me. That he still has strong feelings for me and loves me. But that he doesnt think he can be with in a relationship



Since the break up we have seen eachother twice and talked about it. It was like he was doubting his decision so I just don't like being confused i just said it was best.

We agreed to be friends but when I saw him again he said he doesn't know if he can be '''friends'' because everytime he sees me it makes it hard for him to move on and he still has feelings for me. So i'm just confused overall. It's like he's fighting against this connection. He did tell me that he really gets scared when a relationship is getting serious. But when I ask him if he ever sees himself getting back with me. He tells me no?



He says he just wants to stay cool for the moment and that we can hang out but not as often... I really don't know what to do with this. I'm only getting more and more confused.
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Ok, I'm a Sag with Leo moon...and yeah, usually I also seek for an escape if it is getting too serious, cause I don't want to be caged or limited, or whatsoever, especially now when I am focused on my purpose aka career and don't have time for something serious...because it is expected that you must devote a lot of your time for that girl. I cannot do that now...then, I would usually use verbal fight situations as an excuse to exit unless it bothers me for a longer time, and it's draining. If you are still doing the same thing or arguing over the same thing from time to time, then I would disappear also, or if you disrespect me and things like that. So if I notice the same patterns all over, without an issue being resolved on your part (if it was up to you), then it's just enough for me, and usually, I never go back when I go cold, just no desire if I'm already fed enough by that point.
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Well, we do like an idea of a harmonious relationship, but the thing is, we quickly get bored and want something new, new experiences and things like that. We don't want to settle just like that and to think that now it's over with all the new experiences and exploring, plus losing our freedom. We love the freedom the most. We try our best to commit, but when the other side starts to get more demanding and demands more and more of our free time, that is what makes us leave cause we cannot focus on our things. And we don't want someone to tell us what to do with our free time. I actually prefer to see someone when I want to see, and if I am not in the mood for that the whole week, to avoid it, and that is not possible in relationships, lol. What Dan Bilzerian does would be nice, harem full of chicks, you travel wherever you want, and awesome, lmao. And btw, we do not deceive anyone...we are just seeing the other person without defining our status, but if there is a need for such talk by the other side, we will tell how it is. So no deceiving or promising anything.
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Posted by blackphvse

Well I can understand why you are confused.. He told you he needed to work on himself and that it has nothing to do with you. Then he says seeing you and being friends is making it hard for him to move on. So is he trying to work on himself or trying to move on? It can't be both. Can't work on himself if he immediately gets involved with someone else.

How long were you together for?


We were together for one year. Yes I’m really confused. I think he is doing both. But he still continues to talk to me and message me so... Idk what to really do. Also I’ve seen him twice after the break up.
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Ok, I'm a Sag with Leo moon...and yeah, usually I also seek for an escape if it is getting too serious, cause I don't want to be caged or limited, or whatsoever, especially now when I am focused on my purpose aka career and don't have time for something serious...because it is expected that you must devote a lot of your time for that girl. I cannot do that now...then, I would usually use verbal fight situations as an excuse to exit unless it bothers me for a longer time, and it's draining. If you are still doing the same thing or arguing over the same thing from time to time, then I would disappear also, or if you disrespect me and things like that. So if I notice the same patterns all over, without an issue being resolved on your part (if it was up to you), then it's just enough for me, and usually, I never go back when I go cold, just no desire if I'm already fed enough by that point.


Yes, I understand. I’m a Gemini I get the whole give each other freedom thing. I’m someone who values her freedom as well. When I first got to know him I was the one that didn’t really want to get in a relationship. He pursued me and really wanted a relationship. He had already developed feelings for me. I was single for 3 years before I met him. So I only wanted to get in a relationship if I felt I saw a future with the person. I was also very vocal about this. He knew it and still pursued me. So when time passed I just wanted to give it a try and started developing feelings for him too and we ended up in a relationship. The arguments were not bad we would always make up the same day. He still keeps contact with me and we still talk.
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Ok, I'm a Sag with Leo moon...and yeah, usually I also seek for an escape if it is getting too serious, cause I don't want to be caged or limited, or whatsoever, especially now when I am focused on my purpose aka career and don't have time for something serious...because it is expected that you must devote a lot of your time for that girl. I cannot do that now...then, I would usually use verbal fight situations as an excuse to exit unless it bothers me for a longer time, and it's draining. If you are still doing the same thing or arguing over the same thing from time to time, then I would disappear also, or if you disrespect me and things like that. So if I notice the same patterns all over, without an issue being resolved on your part (if it was up to you), then it's just enough for me, and usually, I never go back when I go cold, just no desire if I'm already fed enough by that point.

Yes, I understand. I’m a Gemini I get the whole give each other freedom thing. I’m someone who values her freedom as well. When I first got to know him I was the one that didn’t really want to get in a relationship. He pursued me and really wanted a relationship. He had already developed feelings for me. I was single for 3 years before I met him. So I only wanted to get in a relationship if I felt I saw a future with the person. I was also very vocal about this. He knew it and still pursued me. So when time passed I just wanted to give it a try and started developing feelings for him too and we ended up in a relationship. The arguments were not bad we would always make up the same day. He still keeps contact with me and we still talk.
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I never mention that I look for a relationship when I'm interested. Normally I want to see that person and get to know her better. I may consider the idea of a relationship. Still, as I've said, we really want for it to last as long as possible, I mean, our interest, but it is a kind of curse that we lose interest after some time, especially if it becomes too repetitive. So yeah, not easy for me also, lmao.
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Posted by dontgiveup

Was he hurt before?

People who have been hurt bad previously tend to not be able to fully commit easily.

Does it seem like whenever he gets closer he steps back? One step forward 2 steps back?

As if he starts to open up then goes Uh-OH?

Give him space - you cannot be friends with someone you are not over. You cannot fully move on (For both of you)

Cut him off tell him if you are not together then you need your space its too painful. This will not only help you move on but will also show his true feelings.

If you pull completely away he will either let you or come back.

DONT LET HIM TOY WITH YOU



Best of luck!!!!!!


Yes, how do you know?

He has been hurt before real bad. He is very scared of commitment.

Thank u for your reply. I’m slowly pulling my energy away🤗
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Posted by Gemgyal

I hope someone can give me some insight.



I was in a relationship my now ex-boyfriend. He is a sag sun with leo moon and scorpio venus. I'm a gemini with a taurus moon and cancer venus.

The relationship was great we had a very deep connection. But when we did have a lot of arguments. We did try to understand eachother better and talk everything and the last 2 months everything was great and we didnt even argue.

My sag was talking about how happy he was and that he sees a future with me.



Suddenly 2 weeks ago he broke up with me after an argument. He was telling me that he has been doubting us the whole relationship and if he is doubting that means I'm not the one? I just can't wrap my head around this thought. After that he told me it was an emotional decision but he feels he needs to stick with it



I'm still confused because I don't even understand where this all is coming from as we have had these conversations with eachother; about how he sees the relationship and our future together. 2 weeks ago he couldnt live with me now he is done. He says he needs to work on himself and that it has nothing to do with me. That he still has strong feelings for me and loves me. But that he doesnt think he can be with in a relationship



Since the break up we have seen eachother twice and talked about it. It was like he was doubting his decision so I just don't like being confused i just said it was best.

We agreed to be friends but when I saw him again he said he doesn't know if he can be '''friends'' because everytime he sees me it makes it hard for him to move on and he still has feelings for me. So i'm just confused overall. It's like he's fighting against this connection. He did tell me that he really gets scared when a relationship is getting serious. But when I ask him if he ever sees himself getting back with me. He tells me no?



He says he just wants to stay cool for the moment and that we can hang out but not as often... I really don't know what to do with this. I'm only getting more and more confused.


I'm a Sag male with a Gem lady sounds like I aint the only one having confusion only difference is its the other way around 😅.

Heres my advice if you are in love with him and it hurts every time you see him then stop seeing him and get to the route of what he is wanting from you is it friendship or isit him wanting to work on him self the problem is I have the same trouble I am scared of the deep emotional connection that I have with my gem especially at the start that I didn't help the situation I was scared that I had doubt about us and where she would go because I felt like I found the person I always want to be with for life and I never felt that way not even with my ex who I have children with.

It's true what they say a Sag will find there Gemini or visa versa Gem will find there Sag at least once.

The connection between us is deep on a spiritual level that one or the other gets scared the only way for it to push on and work is to go with the flow and try not to get to deeply involved says the one 🤣👆 .
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Well, we do like an idea of a harmonious relationship, but the thing is, we quickly get bored and want something new, new experiences and things like that. We don't want to settle just like that and to think that now it's over with all the new experiences and exploring, plus losing our freedom. We love the freedom the most. We try our best to commit, but when the other side starts to get more demanding and demands more and more of our free time, that is what makes us leave cause we cannot focus on our things. And we don't want someone to tell us what to do with our free time. I actually prefer to see someone when I want to see, and if I am not in the mood for that the whole week, to avoid it, and that is not possible in relationships, lol. What Dan Bilzerian does would be nice, harem full of chicks, you travel wherever you want, and awesome, lmao. And btw, we do not deceive anyone...we are just seeing the other person without defining our status, but if there is a need for such talk by the other side, we will tell how it is. So no deceiving or promising anything.

It seems deceptive if you're not upfront about all this from the get go. There is no problem at all with not wanting to settle and wanting to have your freedom, I have a Sag brother and I know you guys don't like to be pinned down. BUT, it really should be something you are upfront about. Lots of girls will go along with the whole "not defining the status" but majority of them expect it's going to develop into something unless you tell them from the start you don't want that. And this is partly the fault of the other party too, if they are being hopeful it will be more, they should also be upfront about that. I often see people acting like they are okay with just being casual when they aren't, and that is just as deceptive (although they are only hurting themselves). There would be a lot less issues in general if people could just be open about what they truly desired instead of riding it out only to be disappointed.
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Ok, I'm a Sag with Leo moon...and yeah, usually I also seek for an escape if it is getting too serious, cause I don't want to be caged or limited, or whatsoever, especially now when I am focused on my purpose aka career and don't have time for something serious...because it is expected that you must devote a lot of your time for that girl. I cannot do that now...then, I would usually use verbal fight situations as an excuse to exit unless it bothers me for a longer time, and it's draining. If you are still doing the same thing or arguing over the same thing from time to time, then I would disappear also, or if you disrespect me and things like that. So if I notice the same patterns all over, without an issue being resolved on your part (if it was up to you), then it's just enough for me, and usually, I never go back when I go cold, just no desire if I'm already fed enough by that point.

Yes, I understand. I’m a Gemini I get the whole give each other freedom thing. I’m someone who values her freedom as well. When I first got to know him I was the one that didn’t really want to get in a relationship. He pursued me and really wanted a relationship. He had already developed feelings for me. I was single for 3 years before I met him. So I only wanted to get in a relationship if I felt I saw a future with the person. I was also very vocal about this. He knew it and still pursued me. So when time passed I just wanted to give it a try and started developing feelings for him too and we ended up in a relationship. The arguments were not bad we would always make up the same day. He still keeps contact with me and we still talk.
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Find out what he really does want and make him aware that once you are gone that is it so its up to him to decide as you do not want to be strung along as you have feelings for him make him aware that it isn't what you want but you respect his decision and also, you cannot keep in contact for your own sake. If he wants you he will try believe me.
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I hope someone can give me some insight.



I was in a relationship my now ex-boyfriend. He is a sag sun with leo moon and scorpio venus. I'm a gemini with a taurus moon and cancer venus.

The relationship was great we had a very deep connection. But when we did have a lot of arguments. We did try to understand eachother better and talk everything and the last 2 months everything was great and we didnt even argue.

My sag was talking about how happy he was and that he sees a future with me.



Suddenly 2 weeks ago he broke up with me after an argument. He was telling me that he has been doubting us the whole relationship and if he is doubting that means I'm not the one? I just can't wrap my head around this thought. After that he told me it was an emotional decision but he feels he needs to stick with it



I'm still confused because I don't even understand where this all is coming from as we have had these conversations with eachother; about how he sees the relationship and our future together. 2 weeks ago he couldnt live with me now he is done. He says he needs to work on himself and that it has nothing to do with me. That he still has strong feelings for me and loves me. But that he doesnt think he can be with in a relationship



Since the break up we have seen eachother twice and talked about it. It was like he was doubting his decision so I just don't like being confused i just said it was best.

We agreed to be friends but when I saw him again he said he doesn't know if he can be '''friends'' because everytime he sees me it makes it hard for him to move on and he still has feelings for me. So i'm just confused overall. It's like he's fighting against this connection. He did tell me that he really gets scared when a relationship is getting serious. But when I ask him if he ever sees himself getting back with me. He tells me no?



He says he just wants to stay cool for the moment and that we can hang out but not as often... I really don't know what to do with this. I'm only getting more and more confused.

I'm a Sag male with a Gem lady sounds like I aint the only one having confusion only difference is its the other way around 😅.

Heres my advice if you are in love with him and it hurts every time you see him then stop seeing him and get to the route of what he is wanting from you is it friendship or isit him wanting to work on him self the problem is I have the same trouble I am scared of the deep emotional connection that I have with my gem especially at the start that I didn't help the situation I was scared that I had doubt about us and where she would go because I felt like I found the person I always want to be with for life and I never felt that way not even with my ex who I have children with.

It's true what they say a Sag will find there Gemini or visa versa Gem will find there Sag at least once.

The connection between us is deep on a spiritual level that one or the other gets scared the only way for it to push on and work is to go with the flow and try not to get to deeply involved says the one 🤣👆 .
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I’m still in love with him but it doesn’t hurt. Because I know I was the best version of myself with him. I valued our connection/friendship very much. So much I was willing to be friends with him. But he says he can’t be friends and see me too often because he still has feelings for me and seeing me too often makes it too hard for him😅. We are still texting but I’m thinking of not replying anymore I’m getting a bit tired of this. So nice to hear you’re with a Gemini girl, how do you get over your fear ?
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Posted by DMV

With sag men, you have to put your foot down and mean it.

Don’t allow him to dangle himself like a carrot in front of you.

Stickup for what you want.



You may have to give him an ultimatum or just say enough is enough


Hmm I thought Sagittarius didn’t like ultimatums?

He told me he is pretty sure we will not get back together anymore but gets upset when I want to remove him from my life? 😕 I’m honestly thinking like he’s playing mind games with me.
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Posted by DMV

With sag men, you have to put your foot down and mean it.

Don’t allow him to dangle himself like a carrot in front of you.

Stickup for what you want.



You may have to give him an ultimatum or just say enough is enough

Hmm I thought Sagittarius didn’t like ultimatums?

He told me he is pretty sure we will not get back together anymore but gets upset when I want to remove him from my life? 😕 I’m honestly thinking like he’s playing mind games with me.
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I would put your needs first. Who kinda cares if he doesn’t like ultimatums? At least you get some peace
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It's obvious he's being selfish, isnt he?

He already checked out, in his head he knows he doesnt want a relationship anymore.

He's just dragging you along until he finds something to fully focus on. Like a new life or a new person.

I used to do this ages ago.

Like gemini, sags are usually wishy washy in a decision making process. But once we decides, it's usually final. He already decided not wanting a relationship with you. He just hasnt got his new life lined up yet, hence this behaviour.

Remove yourself from the situation and see what happens. Dont need to give ultimatum just remove yourself. Being friends with him will just hurt you.


You’re so right. He said he wants to be friends but it’s hard for him to see me too often because he will be thinking back about the old times and because he still has strong feelings for me he’s afraid he will want to go back to the relationship.

Couple of days after we broke up I just felt the decision he had made was an emotional one so we agreed to talk again and we did. During that talk it was like he regretted his decision and wanted to come back. He was saying stuff to see my reaction I guess? So i just said it’s all right better this way. Cant be with someone who keeps wanting me and then don’t

Just doesn’t make sense to me. After that conversation we were cool and decided to be friends. I noticed suddenly there were only slow replies like 5-6 hrs later. So I stopped talking altogether for like 4 days. Then suddenly he texted me: that he wanted to “ define our friendship”

So we had a conversation in person and I told him I can’t be friends with someone who doesn’t put in the same effort as I do. Cause when I see you as my friend you are really my friend there is not inbetween.

For him it was like yeah i have different kind of friends blabla and I all treat them differently.

Then he said if I would invite him to my birthday he would come? Which I obviously won’t but still why?

After that conversation where I told him i thinks he doesn’t put effort and he can’t expect me to talk with him if the replies in a conversation take 5-6 hrs everytime. Whiles when we were in a relationship he was always texting me within 10 mins.



Since that conversation we had I’ve seen a whole 360 in his behaviour he replies fast and really talk to me. But I’m guarded. I really don’t understand him.

What do you think I should do best? Should I just stop the contact all completely or should I tell him that we need to stop all the contact? I just feel that when invest too much in “our friendship” he will really hurt me once he finds someone else to focus on.

Sorry for my long reply wanted to give you some more insight.
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I hope someone can give me some insight.



I was in a relationship my now ex-boyfriend. He is a sag sun with leo moon and scorpio venus. I'm a gemini with a taurus moon and cancer venus.

The relationship was great we had a very deep connection. But when we did have a lot of arguments. We did try to understand eachother better and talk everything and the last 2 months everything was great and we didnt even argue.

My sag was talking about how happy he was and that he sees a future with me.



Suddenly 2 weeks ago he broke up with me after an argument. He was telling me that he has been doubting us the whole relationship and if he is doubting that means I'm not the one? I just can't wrap my head around this thought. After that he told me it was an emotional decision but he feels he needs to stick with it



I'm still confused because I don't even understand where this all is coming from as we have had these conversations with eachother; about how he sees the relationship and our future together. 2 weeks ago he couldnt live with me now he is done. He says he needs to work on himself and that it has nothing to do with me. That he still has strong feelings for me and loves me. But that he doesnt think he can be with in a relationship



Since the break up we have seen eachother twice and talked about it. It was like he was doubting his decision so I just don't like being confused i just said it was best.

We agreed to be friends but when I saw him again he said he doesn't know if he can be '''friends'' because everytime he sees me it makes it hard for him to move on and he still has feelings for me. So i'm just confused overall. It's like he's fighting against this connection. He did tell me that he really gets scared when a relationship is getting serious. But when I ask him if he ever sees himself getting back with me. He tells me no?



He says he just wants to stay cool for the moment and that we can hang out but not as often... I really don't know what to do with this. I'm only getting more and more confused.

I'm a Sag male with a Gem lady sounds like I aint the only one having confusion only difference is its the other way around 😅.

Heres my advice if you are in love with him and it hurts every time you see him then stop seeing him and get to the route of what he is wanting from you is it friendship or isit him wanting to work on him self the problem is I have the same trouble I am scared of the deep emotional connection that I have with my gem especially at the start that I didn't help the situation I was scared that I had doubt about us and where she would go because I felt like I found the person I always want to be with for life and I never felt that way not even with my ex who I have children with.

It's true what they say a Sag will find there Gemini or visa versa Gem will find there Sag at least once.

The connection between us is deep on a spiritual level that one or the other gets scared the only way for it to push on and work is to go with the flow and try not to get to deeply involved says the one 🤣👆 .

I’m still in love with him but it doesn’t hurt. Because I know I was the best version of myself with him. I valued our connection/friendship very much. So much I was willing to be friends with him. But he says he can’t be friends and see me too often because he still has feelings for me and seeing me too often makes it too hard for him😅. We are still texting but I’m thinking of not replying anymore I’m getting a bit tired of this. So nice to hear you’re with a Gemini girl, how do you get over your fear ?
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If I am honest I am still completely terrified deep down🤣 however, I think you need to be happy inside once one person is happy the other can also, be happy.

I take every day as it comes now with the attitude of if she is going to go she will go or if she wants something else she will have it because at the end of the day she wanted me and got me not going to lie and say I didn't also, want her but she made the moves and told me that every time I would walk past her in work something was telling her I am the one and that she is not going to get me.

We have had terrible arguments between us and falling outs where we have not seen eachother for days here and there but we have had to figure eachother out.

I have learnt not to take somethings she says seriously because one minuet she can say something and feel completely different the next depending on how the week had gone between us.

I was constantly sacred to loose her that I nagged at her over and over about my emotions and asked her if she wants me still over and over and it only dragged the whole relationship down.

We are just rebuilding us now with me acting normal like it was at the start when I didn't know what I had to loose so you go into it open minded and she has since said she feels more close to me already and stuff is starting to get back on track and that was after a few days. We needed fun again and not just family life.

I would say shift your energy away from him if you have kids concentrate on them or if not on yourself and friends post up pics of you having fun going out show people what they are missing.

Take it from me If he wants you for good he will pursue you for sure, probably try joking with you and trying to make you laugh at first etc, its what I would do.
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It's obvious he's being selfish, isnt he?

He already checked out, in his head he knows he doesnt want a relationship anymore.

He's just dragging you along until he finds something to fully focus on. Like a new life or a new person.

I used to do this ages ago.

Like gemini, sags are usually wishy washy in a decision making process. But once we decides, it's usually final. He already decided not wanting a relationship with you. He just hasnt got his new life lined up yet, hence this behaviour.

Remove yourself from the situation and see what happens. Dont need to give ultimatum just remove yourself. Being friends with him will just hurt you.

You’re so right. He said he wants to be friends but it’s hard for him to see me too often because he will be thinking back about the old times and because he still has strong feelings for me he’s afraid he will want to go back to the relationship.

Couple of days after we broke up I just felt the decision he had made was an emotional one so we agreed to talk again and we did. During that talk it was like he regretted his decision and wanted to come back. He was saying stuff to see my reaction I guess? So i just said it’s all right better this way. Cant be with someone who keeps wanting me and then don’t

Just doesn’t make sense to me. After that conversation we were cool and decided to be friends. I noticed suddenly there were only slow replies like 5-6 hrs later. So I stopped talking altogether for like 4 days. Then suddenly he texted me: that he wanted to “ define our friendship”

So we had a conversation in person and I told him I can’t be friends with someone who doesn’t put in the same effort as I do. Cause when I see you as my friend you are really my friend there is not inbetween.

For him it was like yeah i have different kind of friends blabla and I all treat them differently.

Then he said if I would invite him to my birthday he would come? Which I obviously won’t but still why?

After that conversation where I told him i thinks he doesn’t put effort and he can’t expect me to talk with him if the replies in a conversation take 5-6 hrs everytime. Whiles when we were in a relationship he was always texting me within 10 mins.



Since that conversation we had I’ve seen a whole 360 in his behaviour he replies fast and really talk to me. But I’m guarded. I really don’t understand him.

What do you think I should do best? Should I just stop the contact all completely or should I tell him that we need to stop all the contact? I just feel that when invest too much in “our friendship” he will really hurt me once he finds someone else to focus on.

Sorry for my long reply wanted to give you some more insight.

So he has changed and now you're uncertain? 😝

I cant make up my mind. The part where he said he treats his friend differently etc could mean 2 things: he has compartementalized you into a friends with romance and wants no relationship or he's just playing games wanting some worship through drama. (Leo moon lol)

I think you need to have a conversation with him again and this time say it from the start it will be final.. what the hell does he wants and tell him you cant be friends with him. So he wants you in or out?

Being friends with him will just hurt you. He doesnt know what he wants and will keep on dragging you until he does. And it probably could take weeks, months or years lol. Even if he dates around im certain he wont tell you.
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I agree 👆 seems like he is uncertain on his feelings it could be that he is scared or it could almost be that he wants you to fall back on because he could be pursuing his time else where or want something different hoping he can get that and yet is keeping you in the picture and if that doesn't come off he will pursue you again I know how we work sometimes.

Force his hand into a decsion sometimes this is what we need😅 just do you for now what will be will be at the end of it see how he reacts to you not replying and making him aware that you aren't sticking around how old are you guys by the way?

If he responds with I want you then you have your answer if he says again I can't be in a relationship then tell him you can't be friends and that you are cutting contact for good put your energy else where.

Let's see his reaction.

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It's obvious he's being selfish, isnt he?

He already checked out, in his head he knows he doesnt want a relationship anymore.

He's just dragging you along until he finds something to fully focus on. Like a new life or a new person.

I used to do this ages ago.

Like gemini, sags are usually wishy washy in a decision making process. But once we decides, it's usually final. He already decided not wanting a relationship with you. He just hasnt got his new life lined up yet, hence this behaviour.

Remove yourself from the situation and see what happens. Dont need to give ultimatum just remove yourself. Being friends with him will just hurt you.

You’re so right. He said he wants to be friends but it’s hard for him to see me too often because he will be thinking back about the old times and because he still has strong feelings for me he’s afraid he will want to go back to the relationship.

Couple of days after we broke up I just felt the decision he had made was an emotional one so we agreed to talk again and we did. During that talk it was like he regretted his decision and wanted to come back. He was saying stuff to see my reaction I guess? So i just said it’s all right better this way. Cant be with someone who keeps wanting me and then don’t

Just doesn’t make sense to me. After that conversation we were cool and decided to be friends. I noticed suddenly there were only slow replies like 5-6 hrs later. So I stopped talking altogether for like 4 days. Then suddenly he texted me: that he wanted to “ define our friendship”

So we had a conversation in person and I told him I can’t be friends with someone who doesn’t put in the same effort as I do. Cause when I see you as my friend you are really my friend there is not inbetween.

For him it was like yeah i have different kind of friends blabla and I all treat them differently.

Then he said if I would invite him to my birthday he would come? Which I obviously won’t but still why?

After that conversation where I told him i thinks he doesn’t put effort and he can’t expect me to talk with him if the replies in a conversation take 5-6 hrs everytime. Whiles when we were in a relationship he was always texting me within 10 mins.



Since that conversation we had I’ve seen a whole 360 in his behaviour he replies fast and really talk to me. But I’m guarded. I really don’t understand him.

What do you think I should do best? Should I just stop the contact all completely or should I tell him that we need to stop all the contact? I just feel that when invest too much in “our friendship” he will really hurt me once he finds someone else to focus on.

Sorry for my long reply wanted to give you some more insight.

So he has changed and now you're uncertain? 😝

I cant make up my mind. The part where he said he treats his friend differently etc could mean 2 things: he has compartementalized you into a friends with romance and wants no relationship or he's just playing games wanting some worship through drama. (Leo moon lol)

I think you need to have a conversation with him again and this time say it from the start it will be final.. what the hell does he wants and tell him you cant be friends with him. So he wants you in or out?

Being friends with him will just hurt you. He doesnt know what he wants and will keep on dragging you until he does. And it probably could take weeks, months or years lol. Even if he dates around im certain he wont tell you.
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I do also, believe he is being wishy washy I have also done this. You could be strung along for the ride until he finds something better in his eyes.

Gem and Sag are quite similar even though we are opposites.

I could be being strung along for a ride myself right now with my Gem she tells me she doesn't want to be with me when he have had bad arguments and then when asked the other night what she wants after bot saying a word she replies I want to rebuild with you and take it slowly but I can their is something still missing there she isn't happy I know it doesnt just happen over night but when you know you know this is why I have the attitude I do now.
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I hope someone can give me some insight.



I was in a relationship my now ex-boyfriend. He is a sag sun with leo moon and scorpio venus. I'm a gemini with a taurus moon and cancer venus.

The relationship was great we had a very deep connection. But when we did have a lot of arguments. We did try to understand eachother better and talk everything and the last 2 months everything was great and we didnt even argue.

My sag was talking about how happy he was and that he sees a future with me.



Suddenly 2 weeks ago he broke up with me after an argument. He was telling me that he has been doubting us the whole relationship and if he is doubting that means I'm not the one? I just can't wrap my head around this thought. After that he told me it was an emotional decision but he feels he needs to stick with it



I'm still confused because I don't even understand where this all is coming from as we have had these conversations with eachother; about how he sees the relationship and our future together. 2 weeks ago he couldnt live with me now he is done. He says he needs to work on himself and that it has nothing to do with me. That he still has strong feelings for me and loves me. But that he doesnt think he can be with in a relationship



Since the break up we have seen eachother twice and talked about it. It was like he was doubting his decision so I just don't like being confused i just said it was best.

We agreed to be friends but when I saw him again he said he doesn't know if he can be '''friends'' because everytime he sees me it makes it hard for him to move on and he still has feelings for me. So i'm just confused overall. It's like he's fighting against this connection. He did tell me that he really gets scared when a relationship is getting serious. But when I ask him if he ever sees himself getting back with me. He tells me no?



He says he just wants to stay cool for the moment and that we can hang out but not as often... I really don't know what to do with this. I'm only getting more and more confused.

I'm a Sag male with a Gem lady sounds like I aint the only one having confusion only difference is its the other way around 😅.

Heres my advice if you are in love with him and it hurts every time you see him then stop seeing him and get to the route of what he is wanting from you is it friendship or isit him wanting to work on him self the problem is I have the same trouble I am scared of the deep emotional connection that I have with my gem especially at the start that I didn't help the situation I was scared that I had doubt about us and where she would go because I felt like I found the person I always want to be with for life and I never felt that way not even with my ex who I have children with.

It's true what they say a Sag will find there Gemini or visa versa Gem will find there Sag at least once.

The connection between us is deep on a spiritual level that one or the other gets scared the only way for it to push on and work is to go with the flow and try not to get to deeply involved says the one 🤣👆 .

I’m still in love with him but it doesn’t hurt. Because I know I was the best version of myself with him. I valued our connection/friendship very much. So much I was willing to be friends with him. But he says he can’t be friends and see me too often because he still has feelings for me and seeing me too often makes it too hard for him😅. We are still texting but I’m thinking of not replying anymore I’m getting a bit tired of this. So nice to hear you’re with a Gemini girl, how do you get over your fear ?

If I am honest I am still completely terrified deep down🤣 however, I think you need to be happy inside once one person is happy the other can also, be happy.

I take every day as it comes now with the attitude of if she is going to go she will go or if she wants something else she will have it because at the end of the day she wanted me and got me not going to lie and say I didn't also, want her but she made the moves and told me that every time I would walk past her in work something was telling her I am the one and that she is not going to get me.

We have had terrible arguments between us and falling outs where we have not seen eachother for days here and there but we have had to figure eachother out.

I have learnt not to take somethings she says seriously because one minuet she can say something and feel completely different the next depending on how the week had gone between us.

I was constantly sacred to loose her that I nagged at her over and over about my emotions and asked her if she wants me still over and over and it only dragged the whole relationship down.

We are just rebuilding us now with me acting normal like it was at the start when I didn't know what I had to loose so you go into it open minded and she has since said she feels more close to me already and stuff is starting to get back on track and that was after a few days. We needed fun again and not just family life.

I would say shift your energy away from him if you have kids concentrate on them or if not on yourself and friends post up pics of you having fun going out show people what they are missing.

Take it from me If he wants you for good he will pursue you for sure, probably try joking with you and trying to make you laugh at first etc, its what I would do.
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Aww yes. That’s really how Gemini’s are. we could say something so serious in the moment en feel totally different a day later. With me it usually has to do with my emotions. My emotions get the best of me sometimes. I’m glad you figured things out with your gemini.

I don’t have kids but I will try focusing on myself more I’m very busy with work anyways.

Only thing I’m struggling with now is if I should still keep in contact with him. Or just pull away my energy. We have been talking consistently now. Would it be weird if I just stopped replying now? I really don’t feel like having a third conversation about the same thing lol. I love him but he needs to work on himself I don’t feel like it benefits us at this moment to still be in contact.
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Posted by Sagoxa
Posted by Gemgyal
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Posted by Sagoxa

It's obvious he's being selfish, isnt he?

He already checked out, in his head he knows he doesnt want a relationship anymore.

He's just dragging you along until he finds something to fully focus on. Like a new life or a new person.

I used to do this ages ago.

Like gemini, sags are usually wishy washy in a decision making process. But once we decides, it's usually final. He already decided not wanting a relationship with you. He just hasnt got his new life lined up yet, hence this behaviour.

Remove yourself from the situation and see what happens. Dont need to give ultimatum just remove yourself. Being friends with him will just hurt you.

You’re so right. He said he wants to be friends but it’s hard for him to see me too often because he will be thinking back about the old times and because he still has strong feelings for me he’s afraid he will want to go back to the relationship.

Couple of days after we broke up I just felt the decision he had made was an emotional one so we agreed to talk again and we did. During that talk it was like he regretted his decision and wanted to come back. He was saying stuff to see my reaction I guess? So i just said it’s all right better this way. Cant be with someone who keeps wanting me and then don’t

Just doesn’t make sense to me. After that conversation we were cool and decided to be friends. I noticed suddenly there were only slow replies like 5-6 hrs later. So I stopped talking altogether for like 4 days. Then suddenly he texted me: that he wanted to “ define our friendship”

So we had a conversation in person and I told him I can’t be friends with someone who doesn’t put in the same effort as I do. Cause when I see you as my friend you are really my friend there is not inbetween.

For him it was like yeah i have different kind of friends blabla and I all treat them differently.

Then he said if I would invite him to my birthday he would come? Which I obviously won’t but still why?

After that conversation where I told him i thinks he doesn’t put effort and he can’t expect me to talk with him if the replies in a conversation take 5-6 hrs everytime. Whiles when we were in a relationship he was always texting me within 10 mins.



Since that conversation we had I’ve seen a whole 360 in his behaviour he replies fast and really talk to me. But I’m guarded. I really don’t understand him.

What do you think I should do best? Should I just stop the contact all completely or should I tell him that we need to stop all the contact? I just feel that when invest too much in “our friendship” he will really hurt me once he finds someone else to focus on.

Sorry for my long reply wanted to give you some more insight.

So he has changed and now you're uncertain? 😝

I cant make up my mind. The part where he said he treats his friend differently etc could mean 2 things: he has compartementalized you into a friends with romance and wants no relationship or he's just playing games wanting some worship through drama. (Leo moon lol)

I think you need to have a conversation with him again and this time say it from the start it will be final.. what the hell does he wants and tell him you cant be friends with him. So he wants you in or out?

Being friends with him will just hurt you. He doesnt know what he wants and will keep on dragging you until he does. And it probably could take weeks, months or years lol. Even if he dates around im certain he wont tell you.
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Yeah that’s really true! I’m really an overthinker.? I really don’t feel like having a third conversation about the same thing lol. I love him but he needs to work on himself I don’t feel like it benefits us at this moment to still be in contact.

We did speak last night about just casual stuff but today I woke up and thought about the way we are now is not working for both of us he says he needs to work on himself and move on and I want to focus on moving on I can’t do that when still in contact.

First i thought i wanted to stay in contact but now the more I think about it and the insight i get from you all I think it’s best we don’t have any contact for now. And I’m really sure that if he decides to date around he won’t tell me. So I’d rather remove myself from the situation than to get more hurt than I am.

I don’t really feel like having another conversation with him about it. I already told him how i am in my friendships and there is not inbetween. He said he had different types of friends. But that don’t mean it is the same for me. He also said he doesn’t believen that the connection we had and the relationship we had can ever go from that to just friends. He says so much stuff. It’s really confusing lol.
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Posted by Gemgyal
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Posted by Gemgyal
Posted by Centaur12
Posted by Gemgyal

I hope someone can give me some insight.



I was in a relationship my now ex-boyfriend. He is a sag sun with leo moon and scorpio venus. I'm a gemini with a taurus moon and cancer venus.

The relationship was great we had a very deep connection. But when we did have a lot of arguments. We did try to understand eachother better and talk everything and the last 2 months everything was great and we didnt even argue.

My sag was talking about how happy he was and that he sees a future with me.



Suddenly 2 weeks ago he broke up with me after an argument. He was telling me that he has been doubting us the whole relationship and if he is doubting that means I'm not the one? I just can't wrap my head around this thought. After that he told me it was an emotional decision but he feels he needs to stick with it



I'm still confused because I don't even understand where this all is coming from as we have had these conversations with eachother; about how he sees the relationship and our future together. 2 weeks ago he couldnt live with me now he is done. He says he needs to work on himself and that it has nothing to do with me. That he still has strong feelings for me and loves me. But that he doesnt think he can be with in a relationship



Since the break up we have seen eachother twice and talked about it. It was like he was doubting his decision so I just don't like being confused i just said it was best.

We agreed to be friends but when I saw him again he said he doesn't know if he can be '''friends'' because everytime he sees me it makes it hard for him to move on and he still has feelings for me. So i'm just confused overall. It's like he's fighting against this connection. He did tell me that he really gets scared when a relationship is getting serious. But when I ask him if he ever sees himself getting back with me. He tells me no?



He says he just wants to stay cool for the moment and that we can hang out but not as often... I really don't know what to do with this. I'm only getting more and more confused.

I'm a Sag male with a Gem lady sounds like I aint the only one having confusion only difference is its the other way around 😅.

Heres my advice if you are in love with him and it hurts every time you see him then stop seeing him and get to the route of what he is wanting from you is it friendship or isit him wanting to work on him self the problem is I have the same trouble I am scared of the deep emotional connection that I have with my gem especially at the start that I didn't help the situation I was scared that I had doubt about us and where she would go because I felt like I found the person I always want to be with for life and I never felt that way not even with my ex who I have children with.

It's true what they say a Sag will find there Gemini or visa versa Gem will find there Sag at least once.

The connection between us is deep on a spiritual level that one or the other gets scared the only way for it to push on and work is to go with the flow and try not to get to deeply involved says the one 🤣👆 .

I’m still in love with him but it doesn’t hurt. Because I know I was the best version of myself with him. I valued our connection/friendship very much. So much I was willing to be friends with him. But he says he can’t be friends and see me too often because he still has feelings for me and seeing me too often makes it too hard for him😅. We are still texting but I’m thinking of not replying anymore I’m getting a bit tired of this. So nice to hear you’re with a Gemini girl, how do you get over your fear ?

If I am honest I am still completely terrified deep down🤣 however, I think you need to be happy inside once one person is happy the other can also, be happy.

I take every day as it comes now with the attitude of if she is going to go she will go or if she wants something else she will have it because at the end of the day she wanted me and got me not going to lie and say I didn't also, want her but she made the moves and told me that every time I would walk past her in work something was telling her I am the one and that she is not going to get me.

We have had terrible arguments between us and falling outs where we have not seen eachother for days here and there but we have had to figure eachother out.

I have learnt not to take somethings she says seriously because one minuet she can say something and feel completely different the next depending on how the week had gone between us.

I was constantly sacred to loose her that I nagged at her over and over about my emotions and asked her if she wants me still over and over and it only dragged the whole relationship down.

We are just rebuilding us now with me acting normal like it was at the start when I didn't know what I had to loose so you go into it open minded and she has since said she feels more close to me already and stuff is starting to get back on track and that was after a few days. We needed fun again and not just family life.

I would say shift your energy away from him if you have kids concentrate on them or if not on yourself and friends post up pics of you having fun going out show people what they are missing.

Take it from me If he wants you for good he will pursue you for sure, probably try joking with you and trying to make you laugh at first etc, its what I would do.

Aww yes. That’s really how Gemini’s are. we could say something so serious in the moment en feel totally different a day later. With me it usually has to do with my emotions. My emotions get the best of me sometimes. I’m glad you figured things out with your gemini.

I don’t have kids but I will try focusing on myself more I’m very busy with work anyways.

Only thing I’m struggling with now is if I should still keep in contact with him. Or just pull away my energy. We have been talking consistently now. Would it be weird if I just stopped replying now? I really don’t feel like having a third conversation about the same thing lol. I love him but he needs to work on himself I don’t feel like it benefits us at this moment to still be in contact.
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Yeah totally get that my Gem is the same she absolutely hates it if I ask again about the same thing she will say to me oh not this again lol talk to me about something different bring back the excitement etc, it's probably why she has felt the way she has lately but I wanted commitment from her to much and I should of been going with the flow but in my defence she did promise me that she wanted us to live together and have a future that is what messed us up.

Trouble I had was I came out of a long failing relationship I had with my ex of 8 years and we had children together are own place and security.

That is why I have found it so hard with the lack of commitment.

I get what you mean your on the fence of what to do because you kind of don't want to upset the whole contact but on the flip side you also want to know where you stand.

If you don't mind me asking when you are in contact what sort of things are being said between you guys.
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Posted by Sagoxa
Posted by Gemgyal
Posted by Gemgyal
Posted by Sagoxa

It's obvious he's being selfish, isnt he?

He already checked out, in his head he knows he doesnt want a relationship anymore.

He's just dragging you along until he finds something to fully focus on. Like a new life or a new person.

I used to do this ages ago.

Like gemini, sags are usually wishy washy in a decision making process. But once we decides, it's usually final. He already decided not wanting a relationship with you. He just hasnt got his new life lined up yet, hence this behaviour.

Remove yourself from the situation and see what happens. Dont need to give ultimatum just remove yourself. Being friends with him will just hurt you.

You’re so right. He said he wants to be friends but it’s hard for him to see me too often because he will be thinking back about the old times and because he still has strong feelings for me he’s afraid he will want to go back to the relationship.

Couple of days after we broke up I just felt the decision he had made was an emotional one so we agreed to talk again and we did. During that talk it was like he regretted his decision and wanted to come back. He was saying stuff to see my reaction I guess? So i just said it’s all right better this way. Cant be with someone who keeps wanting me and then don’t

Just doesn’t make sense to me. After that conversation we were cool and decided to be friends. I noticed suddenly there were only slow replies like 5-6 hrs later. So I stopped talking altogether for like 4 days. Then suddenly he texted me: that he wanted to “ define our friendship”

So we had a conversation in person and I told him I can’t be friends with someone who doesn’t put in the same effort as I do. Cause when I see you as my friend you are really my friend there is not inbetween.

For him it was like yeah i have different kind of friends blabla and I all treat them differently.

Then he said if I would invite him to my birthday he would come? Which I obviously won’t but still why?

After that conversation where I told him i thinks he doesn’t put effort and he can’t expect me to talk with him if the replies in a conversation take 5-6 hrs everytime. Whiles when we were in a relationship he was always texting me within 10 mins.



Since that conversation we had I’ve seen a whole 360 in his behaviour he replies fast and really talk to me. But I’m guarded. I really don’t understand him.

What do you think I should do best? Should I just stop the contact all completely or should I tell him that we need to stop all the contact? I just feel that when invest too much in “our friendship” he will really hurt me once he finds someone else to focus on.

Sorry for my long reply wanted to give you some more insight.

So he has changed and now you're uncertain? 😝

I cant make up my mind. The part where he said he treats his friend differently etc could mean 2 things: he has compartementalized you into a friends with romance and wants no relationship or he's just playing games wanting some worship through drama. (Leo moon lol)

I think you need to have a conversation with him again and this time say it from the start it will be final.. what the hell does he wants and tell him you cant be friends with him. So he wants you in or out?

Being friends with him will just hurt you. He doesnt know what he wants and will keep on dragging you until he does. And it probably could take weeks, months or years lol. Even if he dates around im certain he wont tell you.

I agree 👆 seems like he is uncertain on his feelings it could be that he is scared or it could almost be that he wants you to fall back on because he could be pursuing his time else where or want something different hoping he can get that and yet is keeping you in the picture and if that doesn't come off he will pursue you again I know how we work sometimes.

Force his hand into a decsion sometimes this is what we need😅 just do you for now what will be will be at the end of it see how he reacts to you not replying and making him aware that you aren't sticking around how old are you guys by the way?

If he responds with I want you then you have your answer if he says again I can't be in a relationship then tell him you can't be friends and that you are cutting contact for good put your energy else where.

Let's see his reaction.

No one deserves to rent a place in your head unless they are a good tenant remember that.
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No one deserves to rent a place in your head unless they are a good tenant remember that. I felt this and this is the truth!

He has already told me he doesn’t see us getting in

a relationship again but he also says he can’t see me too much because he still has strong feelings for me he will want to go back to relationship? He doesn’t even understand his own emotions so how could I?

At this point I don’t want to hear for the third time that he doesn’t want a relationship and get confused once again. I think I should just take what he has already said and remove myself from the situation.

Only thing I’m contemplating is should I just send a text with stating that I thought about it and don’t see us working out as friends. Or should I just let it be i haven’t replied yet because I have been in my head about it. I’m such an overthinker lol. 😅
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Posted by Centaur12
Posted by Gemgyal
Posted by Centaur12
Posted by Gemgyal
Posted by Centaur12
Posted by Gemgyal

I hope someone can give me some insight.



I was in a relationship my now ex-boyfriend. He is a sag sun with leo moon and scorpio venus. I'm a gemini with a taurus moon and cancer venus.

The relationship was great we had a very deep connection. But when we did have a lot of arguments. We did try to understand eachother better and talk everything and the last 2 months everything was great and we didnt even argue.

My sag was talking about how happy he was and that he sees a future with me.



Suddenly 2 weeks ago he broke up with me after an argument. He was telling me that he has been doubting us the whole relationship and if he is doubting that means I'm not the one? I just can't wrap my head around this thought. After that he told me it was an emotional decision but he feels he needs to stick with it



I'm still confused because I don't even understand where this all is coming from as we have had these conversations with eachother; about how he sees the relationship and our future together. 2 weeks ago he couldnt live with me now he is done. He says he needs to work on himself and that it has nothing to do with me. That he still has strong feelings for me and loves me. But that he doesnt think he can be with in a relationship



Since the break up we have seen eachother twice and talked about it. It was like he was doubting his decision so I just don't like being confused i just said it was best.

We agreed to be friends but when I saw him again he said he doesn't know if he can be '''friends'' because everytime he sees me it makes it hard for him to move on and he still has feelings for me. So i'm just confused overall. It's like he's fighting against this connection. He did tell me that he really gets scared when a relationship is getting serious. But when I ask him if he ever sees himself getting back with me. He tells me no?



He says he just wants to stay cool for the moment and that we can hang out but not as often... I really don't know what to do with this. I'm only getting more and more confused.

I'm a Sag male with a Gem lady sounds like I aint the only one having confusion only difference is its the other way around 😅.

Heres my advice if you are in love with him and it hurts every time you see him then stop seeing him and get to the route of what he is wanting from you is it friendship or isit him wanting to work on him self the problem is I have the same trouble I am scared of the deep emotional connection that I have with my gem especially at the start that I didn't help the situation I was scared that I had doubt about us and where she would go because I felt like I found the person I always want to be with for life and I never felt that way not even with my ex who I have children with.

It's true what they say a Sag will find there Gemini or visa versa Gem will find there Sag at least once.

The connection between us is deep on a spiritual level that one or the other gets scared the only way for it to push on and work is to go with the flow and try not to get to deeply involved says the one 🤣👆 .

I’m still in love with him but it doesn’t hurt. Because I know I was the best version of myself with him. I valued our connection/friendship very much. So much I was willing to be friends with him. But he says he can’t be friends and see me too often because he still has feelings for me and seeing me too often makes it too hard for him😅. We are still texting but I’m thinking of not replying anymore I’m getting a bit tired of this. So nice to hear you’re with a Gemini girl, how do you get over your fear ?

If I am honest I am still completely terrified deep down🤣 however, I think you need to be happy inside once one person is happy the other can also, be happy.

I take every day as it comes now with the attitude of if she is going to go she will go or if she wants something else she will have it because at the end of the day she wanted me and got me not going to lie and say I didn't also, want her but she made the moves and told me that every time I would walk past her in work something was telling her I am the one and that she is not going to get me.

We have had terrible arguments between us and falling outs where we have not seen eachother for days here and there but we have had to figure eachother out.

I have learnt not to take somethings she says seriously because one minuet she can say something and feel completely different the next depending on how the week had gone between us.

I was constantly sacred to loose her that I nagged at her over and over about my emotions and asked her if she wants me still over and over and it only dragged the whole relationship down.

We are just rebuilding us now with me acting normal like it was at the start when I didn't know what I had to loose so you go into it open minded and she has since said she feels more close to me already and stuff is starting to get back on track and that was after a few days. We needed fun again and not just family life.

I would say shift your energy away from him if you have kids concentrate on them or if not on yourself and friends post up pics of you having fun going out show people what they are missing.

Take it from me If he wants you for good he will pursue you for sure, probably try joking with you and trying to make you laugh at first etc, its what I would do.

Aww yes. That’s really how Gemini’s are. we could say something so serious in the moment en feel totally different a day later. With me it usually has to do with my emotions. My emotions get the best of me sometimes. I’m glad you figured things out with your gemini.

I don’t have kids but I will try focusing on myself more I’m very busy with work anyways.

Only thing I’m struggling with now is if I should still keep in contact with him. Or just pull away my energy. We have been talking consistently now. Would it be weird if I just stopped replying now? I really don’t feel like having a third conversation about the same thing lol. I love him but he needs to work on himself I don’t feel like it benefits us at this moment to still be in contact.

Yeah totally get that my Gem is the same she absolutely hates it if I ask again about the same thing she will say to me oh not this again lol talk to me about something different bring back the excitement etc, it's probably why she has felt the way she has lately but I wanted commitment from her to much and I should of been going with the flow but in my defence she did promise me that she wanted us to live together and have a future that is what messed us up.

Trouble I had was I came out of a long failing relationship I had with my ex of 8 years and we had children together are own place and security.

That is why I have found it so hard with the lack of commitment.

I get what you mean your on the fence of what to do because you kind of don't want to upset the whole contact but on the flip side you also want to know where you stand.

If you don't mind me asking when you are in contact what sort of things are being said between you guys.
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Omg! I hate that too, because usually when we have spoken about stuff and I have let it go in my mind I don’t think it’s necessary to talk about it again because it has been solved. Haha.

I think Gemini’s just say what feels right in the moment. At that moment she made the promise I really think that’s what she meant. The problem is our emotions change 24/7. Something about a person could turn us off completely out of the blue. Just give her space and go with the flow that would be the best thing. But also state on time that is eventually what you would like and want. So she knows.

Our conversations are quite casual. Just about daily stuff and work etc. It’s just the same as when we were in a relationship only now he is not really as affectionate. I can see and feel that he is really focused on not being too invested because it makes it harder for him to move on. And yes this is true I am really on the fence cause we are actually cool now but i can’t shake the feeling that it’s just for the mean time and I might get too invested and really believe we are building a friendship and end up really hurt. I just don’t want to get hurt anymore he has really hurt me with this out of the blue break up.
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It's obvious he's being selfish, isnt he?

He already checked out, in his head he knows he doesnt want a relationship anymore.

He's just dragging you along until he finds something to fully focus on. Like a new life or a new person.

I used to do this ages ago.

Like gemini, sags are usually wishy washy in a decision making process. But once we decides, it's usually final. He already decided not wanting a relationship with you. He just hasnt got his new life lined up yet, hence this behaviour.

Remove yourself from the situation and see what happens. Dont need to give ultimatum just remove yourself. Being friends with him will just hurt you.

You’re so right. He said he wants to be friends but it’s hard for him to see me too often because he will be thinking back about the old times and because he still has strong feelings for me he’s afraid he will want to go back to the relationship.

Couple of days after we broke up I just felt the decision he had made was an emotional one so we agreed to talk again and we did. During that talk it was like he regretted his decision and wanted to come back. He was saying stuff to see my reaction I guess? So i just said it’s all right better this way. Cant be with someone who keeps wanting me and then don’t

Just doesn’t make sense to me. After that conversation we were cool and decided to be friends. I noticed suddenly there were only slow replies like 5-6 hrs later. So I stopped talking altogether for like 4 days. Then suddenly he texted me: that he wanted to “ define our friendship”

So we had a conversation in person and I told him I can’t be friends with someone who doesn’t put in the same effort as I do. Cause when I see you as my friend you are really my friend there is not inbetween.

For him it was like yeah i have different kind of friends blabla and I all treat them differently.

Then he said if I would invite him to my birthday he would come? Which I obviously won’t but still why?

After that conversation where I told him i thinks he doesn’t put effort and he can’t expect me to talk with him if the replies in a conversation take 5-6 hrs everytime. Whiles when we were in a relationship he was always texting me within 10 mins.



Since that conversation we had I’ve seen a whole 360 in his behaviour he replies fast and really talk to me. But I’m guarded. I really don’t understand him.

What do you think I should do best? Should I just stop the contact all completely or should I tell him that we need to stop all the contact? I just feel that when invest too much in “our friendship” he will really hurt me once he finds someone else to focus on.

Sorry for my long reply wanted to give you some more insight.

So he has changed and now you're uncertain? 😝

I cant make up my mind. The part where he said he treats his friend differently etc could mean 2 things: he has compartementalized you into a friends with romance and wants no relationship or he's just playing games wanting some worship through drama. (Leo moon lol)

I think you need to have a conversation with him again and this time say it from the start it will be final.. what the hell does he wants and tell him you cant be friends with him. So he wants you in or out?

Being friends with him will just hurt you. He doesnt know what he wants and will keep on dragging you until he does. And it probably could take weeks, months or years lol. Even if he dates around im certain he wont tell you.

I do also, believe he is being wishy washy I have also done this. You could be strung along for the ride until he finds something better in his eyes.

Gem and Sag are quite similar even though we are opposites.

I could be being strung along for a ride myself right now with my Gem she tells me she doesn't want to be with me when he have had bad arguments and then when asked the other night what she wants after bot saying a word she replies I want to rebuild with you and take it slowly but I can their is something still missing there she isn't happy I know it doesnt just happen over night but when you know you know this is why I have the attitude I do now.
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Yes true. My sag is also like that when we have an argument he is really fast to throw in the towel. this is something he has done in all his relationships. After he calms down he will tell me it was in the heat of the moment. This time he said it was in the heat of the moment and it was an emotional decision but he ‘feels’ he needs to stay with his decision. So yeah. Idk. I’d rather remove myself and save myself from more hurt when he does get his eyes on something or someone else.
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It's obvious he's being selfish, isnt he?

He already checked out, in his head he knows he doesnt want a relationship anymore.

He's just dragging you along until he finds something to fully focus on. Like a new life or a new person.

I used to do this ages ago.

Like gemini, sags are usually wishy washy in a decision making process. But once we decides, it's usually final. He already decided not wanting a relationship with you. He just hasnt got his new life lined up yet, hence this behaviour.

Remove yourself from the situation and see what happens. Dont need to give ultimatum just remove yourself. Being friends with him will just hurt you.

You’re so right. He said he wants to be friends but it’s hard for him to see me too often because he will be thinking back about the old times and because he still has strong feelings for me he’s afraid he will want to go back to the relationship.

Couple of days after we broke up I just felt the decision he had made was an emotional one so we agreed to talk again and we did. During that talk it was like he regretted his decision and wanted to come back. He was saying stuff to see my reaction I guess? So i just said it’s all right better this way. Cant be with someone who keeps wanting me and then don’t

Just doesn’t make sense to me. After that conversation we were cool and decided to be friends. I noticed suddenly there were only slow replies like 5-6 hrs later. So I stopped talking altogether for like 4 days. Then suddenly he texted me: that he wanted to “ define our friendship”

So we had a conversation in person and I told him I can’t be friends with someone who doesn’t put in the same effort as I do. Cause when I see you as my friend you are really my friend there is not inbetween.

For him it was like yeah i have different kind of friends blabla and I all treat them differently.

Then he said if I would invite him to my birthday he would come? Which I obviously won’t but still why?

After that conversation where I told him i thinks he doesn’t put effort and he can’t expect me to talk with him if the replies in a conversation take 5-6 hrs everytime. Whiles when we were in a relationship he was always texting me within 10 mins.



Since that conversation we had I’ve seen a whole 360 in his behaviour he replies fast and really talk to me. But I’m guarded. I really don’t understand him.

What do you think I should do best? Should I just stop the contact all completely or should I tell him that we need to stop all the contact? I just feel that when invest too much in “our friendship” he will really hurt me once he finds someone else to focus on.

Sorry for my long reply wanted to give you some more insight.

So he has changed and now you're uncertain? 😝

I cant make up my mind. The part where he said he treats his friend differently etc could mean 2 things: he has compartementalized you into a friends with romance and wants no relationship or he's just playing games wanting some worship through drama. (Leo moon lol)

I think you need to have a conversation with him again and this time say it from the start it will be final.. what the hell does he wants and tell him you cant be friends with him. So he wants you in or out?

Being friends with him will just hurt you. He doesnt know what he wants and will keep on dragging you until he does. And it probably could take weeks, months or years lol. Even if he dates around im certain he wont tell you.

I agree 👆 seems like he is uncertain on his feelings it could be that he is scared or it could almost be that he wants you to fall back on because he could be pursuing his time else where or want something different hoping he can get that and yet is keeping you in the picture and if that doesn't come off he will pursue you again I know how we work sometimes.

Force his hand into a decsion sometimes this is what we need😅 just do you for now what will be will be at the end of it see how he reacts to you not replying and making him aware that you aren't sticking around how old are you guys by the way?

If he responds with I want you then you have your answer if he says again I can't be in a relationship then tell him you can't be friends and that you are cutting contact for good put your energy else where.

Let's see his reaction.

No one deserves to rent a place in your head unless they are a good tenant remember that.

No one deserves to rent a place in your head unless they are a good tenant remember that. I felt this and this is the truth!

He has already told me he doesn’t see us getting in

a relationship again but he also says he can’t see me too much because he still has strong feelings for me he will want to go back to relationship? He doesn’t even understand his own emotions so how could I?

At this point I don’t want to hear for the third time that he doesn’t want a relationship and get confused once again. I think I should just take what he has already said and remove myself from the situation.

Only thing I’m contemplating is should I just send a text with stating that I thought about it and don’t see us working out as friends. Or should I just let it be i haven’t replied yet because I have been in my head about it. I’m such an overthinker lol. 😅
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🤣 that's just being a Gem overthinking I have to tell my partner to relax sometimes and bring her back down to earth 😅 funny really.

I would send a text if that is how you really feel inside or maybe sleep on it before you do.

Just state how you feel and that you cannot continue back and forward and neither of you can move forward if the contact is still there see his reaction and then you will have your answer.
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I hope someone can give me some insight.



I was in a relationship my now ex-boyfriend. He is a sag sun with leo moon and scorpio venus. I'm a gemini with a taurus moon and cancer venus.

The relationship was great we had a very deep connection. But when we did have a lot of arguments. We did try to understand eachother better and talk everything and the last 2 months everything was great and we didnt even argue.

My sag was talking about how happy he was and that he sees a future with me.



Suddenly 2 weeks ago he broke up with me after an argument. He was telling me that he has been doubting us the whole relationship and if he is doubting that means I'm not the one? I just can't wrap my head around this thought. After that he told me it was an emotional decision but he feels he needs to stick with it



I'm still confused because I don't even understand where this all is coming from as we have had these conversations with eachother; about how he sees the relationship and our future together. 2 weeks ago he couldnt live with me now he is done. He says he needs to work on himself and that it has nothing to do with me. That he still has strong feelings for me and loves me. But that he doesnt think he can be with in a relationship



Since the break up we have seen eachother twice and talked about it. It was like he was doubting his decision so I just don't like being confused i just said it was best.

We agreed to be friends but when I saw him again he said he doesn't know if he can be '''friends'' because everytime he sees me it makes it hard for him to move on and he still has feelings for me. So i'm just confused overall. It's like he's fighting against this connection. He did tell me that he really gets scared when a relationship is getting serious. But when I ask him if he ever sees himself getting back with me. He tells me no?



He says he just wants to stay cool for the moment and that we can hang out but not as often... I really don't know what to do with this. I'm only getting more and more confused.

I'm a Sag male with a Gem lady sounds like I aint the only one having confusion only difference is its the other way around 😅.

Heres my advice if you are in love with him and it hurts every time you see him then stop seeing him and get to the route of what he is wanting from you is it friendship or isit him wanting to work on him self the problem is I have the same trouble I am scared of the deep emotional connection that I have with my gem especially at the start that I didn't help the situation I was scared that I had doubt about us and where she would go because I felt like I found the person I always want to be with for life and I never felt that way not even with my ex who I have children with.

It's true what they say a Sag will find there Gemini or visa versa Gem will find there Sag at least once.

The connection between us is deep on a spiritual level that one or the other gets scared the only way for it to push on and work is to go with the flow and try not to get to deeply involved says the one 🤣👆 .

I’m still in love with him but it doesn’t hurt. Because I know I was the best version of myself with him. I valued our connection/friendship very much. So much I was willing to be friends with him. But he says he can’t be friends and see me too often because he still has feelings for me and seeing me too often makes it too hard for him😅. We are still texting but I’m thinking of not replying anymore I’m getting a bit tired of this. So nice to hear you’re with a Gemini girl, how do you get over your fear ?

If I am honest I am still completely terrified deep down🤣 however, I think you need to be happy inside once one person is happy the other can also, be happy.

I take every day as it comes now with the attitude of if she is going to go she will go or if she wants something else she will have it because at the end of the day she wanted me and got me not going to lie and say I didn't also, want her but she made the moves and told me that every time I would walk past her in work something was telling her I am the one and that she is not going to get me.

We have had terrible arguments between us and falling outs where we have not seen eachother for days here and there but we have had to figure eachother out.

I have learnt not to take somethings she says seriously because one minuet she can say something and feel completely different the next depending on how the week had gone between us.

I was constantly sacred to loose her that I nagged at her over and over about my emotions and asked her if she wants me still over and over and it only dragged the whole relationship down.

We are just rebuilding us now with me acting normal like it was at the start when I didn't know what I had to loose so you go into it open minded and she has since said she feels more close to me already and stuff is starting to get back on track and that was after a few days. We needed fun again and not just family life.

I would say shift your energy away from him if you have kids concentrate on them or if not on yourself and friends post up pics of you having fun going out show people what they are missing.

Take it from me If he wants you for good he will pursue you for sure, probably try joking with you and trying to make you laugh at first etc, its what I would do.

Aww yes. That’s really how Gemini’s are. we could say something so serious in the moment en feel totally different a day later. With me it usually has to do with my emotions. My emotions get the best of me sometimes. I’m glad you figured things out with your gemini.

I don’t have kids but I will try focusing on myself more I’m very busy with work anyways.

Only thing I’m struggling with now is if I should still keep in contact with him. Or just pull away my energy. We have been talking consistently now. Would it be weird if I just stopped replying now? I really don’t feel like having a third conversation about the same thing lol. I love him but he needs to work on himself I don’t feel like it benefits us at this moment to still be in contact.

Yeah totally get that my Gem is the same she absolutely hates it if I ask again about the same thing she will say to me oh not this again lol talk to me about something different bring back the excitement etc, it's probably why she has felt the way she has lately but I wanted commitment from her to much and I should of been going with the flow but in my defence she did promise me that she wanted us to live together and have a future that is what messed us up.

Trouble I had was I came out of a long failing relationship I had with my ex of 8 years and we had children together are own place and security.

That is why I have found it so hard with the lack of commitment.

I get what you mean your on the fence of what to do because you kind of don't want to upset the whole contact but on the flip side you also want to know where you stand.

If you don't mind me asking when you are in contact what sort of things are being said between you guys.

Omg! I hate that too, because usually when we have spoken about stuff and I have let it go in my mind I don’t think it’s necessary to talk about it again because it has been solved. Haha.

I think Gemini’s just say what feels right in the moment. At that moment she made the promise I really think that’s what she meant. The problem is our emotions change 24/7. Something about a person could turn us off completely out of the blue. Just give her space and go with the flow that would be the best thing. But also state on time that is eventually what you would like and want. So she knows.

Our conversations are quite casual. Just about daily stuff and work etc. It’s just the same as when we were in a relationship only now he is not really as affectionate. I can see and feel that he is really focused on not being too invested because it makes it harder for him to move on. And yes this is true I am really on the fence cause we are actually cool now but i can’t shake the feeling that it’s just for the mean time and I might get too invested and really believe we are building a friendship and end up really hurt. I just don’t want to get hurt anymore he has really hurt me with this out of the blue break up.
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Yes, I believe your right and I have had to learn this about my partner.

I think I turnt her off to be honest not just me but things that have happened out of our control this is why I am now going with the flow and not putting emotional behaviour into the situations what ever she wants to do I will go with it and respect it.

I have learnt to wait for her to approach me on the emotional side.

We are still planning and booking things together and we do go out different places when we are free everyother weekend we run together alot as well.

It's making me think he isn't as affectionate towards you as he was before I would question why because is there somewhere he is getting advice from could be.

Maybe something that was said I can kind of see how he is feeling but not exactly explain it I think it is a front he's putting on. Just got a feeling.

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It's obvious he's being selfish, isnt he?

He already checked out, in his head he knows he doesnt want a relationship anymore.

He's just dragging you along until he finds something to fully focus on. Like a new life or a new person.

I used to do this ages ago.

Like gemini, sags are usually wishy washy in a decision making process. But once we decides, it's usually final. He already decided not wanting a relationship with you. He just hasnt got his new life lined up yet, hence this behaviour.

Remove yourself from the situation and see what happens. Dont need to give ultimatum just remove yourself. Being friends with him will just hurt you.

You’re so right. He said he wants to be friends but it’s hard for him to see me too often because he will be thinking back about the old times and because he still has strong feelings for me he’s afraid he will want to go back to the relationship.

Couple of days after we broke up I just felt the decision he had made was an emotional one so we agreed to talk again and we did. During that talk it was like he regretted his decision and wanted to come back. He was saying stuff to see my reaction I guess? So i just said it’s all right better this way. Cant be with someone who keeps wanting me and then don’t

Just doesn’t make sense to me. After that conversation we were cool and decided to be friends. I noticed suddenly there were only slow replies like 5-6 hrs later. So I stopped talking altogether for like 4 days. Then suddenly he texted me: that he wanted to “ define our friendship”

So we had a conversation in person and I told him I can’t be friends with someone who doesn’t put in the same effort as I do. Cause when I see you as my friend you are really my friend there is not inbetween.

For him it was like yeah i have different kind of friends blabla and I all treat them differently.

Then he said if I would invite him to my birthday he would come? Which I obviously won’t but still why?

After that conversation where I told him i thinks he doesn’t put effort and he can’t expect me to talk with him if the replies in a conversation take 5-6 hrs everytime. Whiles when we were in a relationship he was always texting me within 10 mins.



Since that conversation we had I’ve seen a whole 360 in his behaviour he replies fast and really talk to me. But I’m guarded. I really don’t understand him.

What do you think I should do best? Should I just stop the contact all completely or should I tell him that we need to stop all the contact? I just feel that when invest too much in “our friendship” he will really hurt me once he finds someone else to focus on.

Sorry for my long reply wanted to give you some more insight.

So he has changed and now you're uncertain? 😝

I cant make up my mind. The part where he said he treats his friend differently etc could mean 2 things: he has compartementalized you into a friends with romance and wants no relationship or he's just playing games wanting some worship through drama. (Leo moon lol)

I think you need to have a conversation with him again and this time say it from the start it will be final.. what the hell does he wants and tell him you cant be friends with him. So he wants you in or out?

Being friends with him will just hurt you. He doesnt know what he wants and will keep on dragging you until he does. And it probably could take weeks, months or years lol. Even if he dates around im certain he wont tell you.

I do also, believe he is being wishy washy I have also done this. You could be strung along for the ride until he finds something better in his eyes.

Gem and Sag are quite similar even though we are opposites.

I could be being strung along for a ride myself right now with my Gem she tells me she doesn't want to be with me when he have had bad arguments and then when asked the other night what she wants after bot saying a word she replies I want to rebuild with you and take it slowly but I can their is something still missing there she isn't happy I know it doesnt just happen over night but when you know you know this is why I have the attitude I do now.

Yes true. My sag is also like that when we have an argument he is really fast to throw in the towel. this is something he has done in all his relationships. After he calms down he will tell me it was in the heat of the moment. This time he said it was in the heat of the moment and it was an emotional decision but he ‘feels’ he needs to stay with his decision. So yeah. Idk. I’d rather remove myself and save myself from more hurt when he does get his eyes on something or someone else.
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From all this you need to say tell me what it is you want and this is final there will be no more texts or contact between us and stick to it tell him you aren't coming back and you need to do this for the both of you if he decides he can't be with you then that's it end of. From my POV
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It's obvious he's being selfish, isnt he?

He already checked out, in his head he knows he doesnt want a relationship anymore.

He's just dragging you along until he finds something to fully focus on. Like a new life or a new person.

I used to do this ages ago.

Like gemini, sags are usually wishy washy in a decision making process. But once we decides, it's usually final. He already decided not wanting a relationship with you. He just hasnt got his new life lined up yet, hence this behaviour.

Remove yourself from the situation and see what happens. Dont need to give ultimatum just remove yourself. Being friends with him will just hurt you.

You’re so right. He said he wants to be friends but it’s hard for him to see me too often because he will be thinking back about the old times and because he still has strong feelings for me he’s afraid he will want to go back to the relationship.

Couple of days after we broke up I just felt the decision he had made was an emotional one so we agreed to talk again and we did. During that talk it was like he regretted his decision and wanted to come back. He was saying stuff to see my reaction I guess? So i just said it’s all right better this way. Cant be with someone who keeps wanting me and then don’t

Just doesn’t make sense to me. After that conversation we were cool and decided to be friends. I noticed suddenly there were only slow replies like 5-6 hrs later. So I stopped talking altogether for like 4 days. Then suddenly he texted me: that he wanted to “ define our friendship”

So we had a conversation in person and I told him I can’t be friends with someone who doesn’t put in the same effort as I do. Cause when I see you as my friend you are really my friend there is not inbetween.

For him it was like yeah i have different kind of friends blabla and I all treat them differently.

Then he said if I would invite him to my birthday he would come? Which I obviously won’t but still why?

After that conversation where I told him i thinks he doesn’t put effort and he can’t expect me to talk with him if the replies in a conversation take 5-6 hrs everytime. Whiles when we were in a relationship he was always texting me within 10 mins.



Since that conversation we had I’ve seen a whole 360 in his behaviour he replies fast and really talk to me. But I’m guarded. I really don’t understand him.

What do you think I should do best? Should I just stop the contact all completely or should I tell him that we need to stop all the contact? I just feel that when invest too much in “our friendship” he will really hurt me once he finds someone else to focus on.

Sorry for my long reply wanted to give you some more insight.

So he has changed and now you're uncertain? 😝

I cant make up my mind. The part where he said he treats his friend differently etc could mean 2 things: he has compartementalized you into a friends with romance and wants no relationship or he's just playing games wanting some worship through drama. (Leo moon lol)

I think you need to have a conversation with him again and this time say it from the start it will be final.. what the hell does he wants and tell him you cant be friends with him. So he wants you in or out?

Being friends with him will just hurt you. He doesnt know what he wants and will keep on dragging you until he does. And it probably could take weeks, months or years lol. Even if he dates around im certain he wont tell you.

I agree 👆 seems like he is uncertain on his feelings it could be that he is scared or it could almost be that he wants you to fall back on because he could be pursuing his time else where or want something different hoping he can get that and yet is keeping you in the picture and if that doesn't come off he will pursue you again I know how we work sometimes.

Force his hand into a decsion sometimes this is what we need😅 just do you for now what will be will be at the end of it see how he reacts to you not replying and making him aware that you aren't sticking around how old are you guys by the way?

If he responds with I want you then you have your answer if he says again I can't be in a relationship then tell him you can't be friends and that you are cutting contact for good put your energy else where.

Let's see his reaction.

No one deserves to rent a place in your head unless they are a good tenant remember that.

No one deserves to rent a place in your head unless they are a good tenant remember that. I felt this and this is the truth!

He has already told me he doesn’t see us getting in

a relationship again but he also says he can’t see me too much because he still has strong feelings for me he will want to go back to relationship? He doesn’t even understand his own emotions so how could I?

At this point I don’t want to hear for the third time that he doesn’t want a relationship and get confused once again. I think I should just take what he has already said and remove myself from the situation.

Only thing I’m contemplating is should I just send a text with stating that I thought about it and don’t see us working out as friends. Or should I just let it be i haven’t replied yet because I have been in my head about it. I’m such an overthinker lol. 😅

🤣 that's just being a Gem overthinking I have to tell my partner to relax sometimes and bring her back down to earth 😅 funny really.

I would send a text if that is how you really feel inside or maybe sleep on it before you do.

Just state how you feel and that you cannot continue back and forward and neither of you can move forward if the contact is still there see his reaction and then you will have your answer.
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Hahaha yes overthinking really drives me so crazy. I know if i don't make the decision I will overthink it every single day. I dont wan't that.

Personally I would love to be friends because I do like him as a person and we do have a great bond.

But before I met him I was really straightforward about what I want for my future: marriage living together etc..

He knew this and still decided to engage with me and start a relationship. Like what another poster said above here, sag men just want it now and don't think about the consequences or feelings of the other person.

He really hurt me but i refuse to stay in that hurt. I really want to focus on myself and move on. Also i dont think I can be friends with someone who will compartmentalize me. We are either friends or we are not.

For him it's like we are friends but we can't speak too much or see eachother too much because he will want to go back to the relationship. Whiles for me it's just we're either friends or not. I don't feel comfortable being compartmentalized.

Also he has told me twice he doesnt see us getting together. Saggitarius are straightforward like that so he has made his final decision. But he keeps going back on it like he is so confusing and I dont want to be confused anymore.

The only thing that will stop this confusing is if we don't have contact anymore.

The last conversation I had with him I told him usually when I'm not friends with someone i just delete them in other for me to move on. And he got so upset about that and started checking if i deleted him.

Why are you so bothered if you were the one that broke up with me? I dont think sleeping on it will change the situation. I really think i will just send a text and be done with it. Haha
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I'm a Sag male with a Gem lady sounds like I aint the only one having confusion only difference is its the other way around 😅.

Heres my advice if you are in love with him and it hurts every time you see him then stop seeing him and get to the route of what he is wanting from you is it friendship or isit him wanting to work on him self the problem is I have the same trouble I am scared of the deep emotional connection that I have with my gem especially at the start that I didn't help the situation I was scared that I had doubt about us and where she would go because I felt like I found the person I always want to be with for life and I never felt that way not even with my ex who I have children with.

It's true what they say a Sag will find there Gemini or visa versa Gem will find there Sag at least once.

The connection between us is deep on a spiritual level that one or the other gets scared the only way for it to push on and work is to go with the flow and try not to get to deeply involved says the one 🤣👆 .

I’m still in love with him but it doesn’t hurt. Because I know I was the best version of myself with him. I valued our connection/friendship very much. So much I was willing to be friends with him. But he says he can’t be friends and see me too often because he still has feelings for me and seeing me too often makes it too hard for him😅. We are still texting but I’m thinking of not replying anymore I’m getting a bit tired of this. So nice to hear you’re with a Gemini girl, how do you get over your fear ?

If I am honest I am still completely terrified deep down🤣 however, I think you need to be happy inside once one person is happy the other can also, be happy.

I take every day as it comes now with the attitude of if she is going to go she will go or if she wants something else she will have it because at the end of the day she wanted me and got me not going to lie and say I didn't also, want her but she made the moves and told me that every time I would walk past her in work something was telling her I am the one and that she is not going to get me.

We have had terrible arguments between us and falling outs where we have not seen eachother for days here and there but we have had to figure eachother out.

I have learnt not to take somethings she says seriously because one minuet she can say something and feel completely different the next depending on how the week had gone between us.

I was constantly sacred to loose her that I nagged at her over and over about my emotions and asked her if she wants me still over and over and it only dragged the whole relationship down.

We are just rebuilding us now with me acting normal like it was at the start when I didn't know what I had to loose so you go into it open minded and she has since said she feels more close to me already and stuff is starting to get back on track and that was after a few days. We needed fun again and not just family life.

I would say shift your energy away from him if you have kids concentrate on them or if not on yourself and friends post up pics of you having fun going out show people what they are missing.

Take it from me If he wants you for good he will pursue you for sure, probably try joking with you and trying to make you laugh at first etc, its what I would do.

Aww yes. That’s really how Gemini’s are. we could say something so serious in the moment en feel totally different a day later. With me it usually has to do with my emotions. My emotions get the best of me sometimes. I’m glad you figured things out with your gemini.

I don’t have kids but I will try focusing on myself more I’m very busy with work anyways.

Only thing I’m struggling with now is if I should still keep in contact with him. Or just pull away my energy. We have been talking consistently now. Would it be weird if I just stopped replying now? I really don’t feel like having a third conversation about the same thing lol. I love him but he needs to work on himself I don’t feel like it benefits us at this moment to still be in contact.

Yeah totally get that my Gem is the same she absolutely hates it if I ask again about the same thing she will say to me oh not this again lol talk to me about something different bring back the excitement etc, it's probably why she has felt the way she has lately but I wanted commitment from her to much and I should of been going with the flow but in my defence she did promise me that she wanted us to live together and have a future that is what messed us up.

Trouble I had was I came out of a long failing relationship I had with my ex of 8 years and we had children together are own place and security.

That is why I have found it so hard with the lack of commitment.

I get what you mean your on the fence of what to do because you kind of don't want to upset the whole contact but on the flip side you also want to know where you stand.

If you don't mind me asking when you are in contact what sort of things are being said between you guys.

Omg! I hate that too, because usually when we have spoken about stuff and I have let it go in my mind I don’t think it’s necessary to talk about it again because it has been solved. Haha.

I think Gemini’s just say what feels right in the moment. At that moment she made the promise I really think that’s what she meant. The problem is our emotions change 24/7. Something about a person could turn us off completely out of the blue. Just give her space and go with the flow that would be the best thing. But also state on time that is eventually what you would like and want. So she knows.

Our conversations are quite casual. Just about daily stuff and work etc. It’s just the same as when we were in a relationship only now he is not really as affectionate. I can see and feel that he is really focused on not being too invested because it makes it harder for him to move on. And yes this is true I am really on the fence cause we are actually cool now but i can’t shake the feeling that it’s just for the mean time and I might get too invested and really believe we are building a friendship and end up really hurt. I just don’t want to get hurt anymore he has really hurt me with this out of the blue break up.

Yes, I believe your right and I have had to learn this about my partner.

I think I turnt her off to be honest not just me but things that have happened out of our control this is why I am now going with the flow and not putting emotional behaviour into the situations what ever she wants to do I will go with it and respect it.

I have learnt to wait for her to approach me on the emotional side.

We are still planning and booking things together and we do go out different places when we are free everyother weekend we run together alot as well.

It's making me think he isn't as affectionate towards you as he was before I would question why because is there somewhere he is getting advice from could be.

Maybe something that was said I can kind of see how he is feeling but not exactly explain it I think it is a front he's putting on. Just got a feeling.
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Yes. With me being a gemini if someone gets too emotional too fast it scares me off. Because i like to be free and not tied down. This happened exactly with me and my ex. He was so emotional and all lovey dovey in the beginning it was too much for me. With gemini's we need time to warm up to you and see if you are really in it for the long haul. Then slowely we will start opening up to you..

Hmm I did think about that he is talking and taking advice from other people maybe like his mom or friends. I know it's a front the last two times I saw the way he looks at me it hasn't changed. he still has feelings for me i know it and he has said it multiple times. He struggles with himself internally and I can't help him with that. The only thing i can do is remove myself from the situation.
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I'm a Sag male with a Gem lady sounds like I aint the only one having confusion only difference is its the other way around 😅.

Heres my advice if you are in love with him and it hurts every time you see him then stop seeing him and get to the route of what he is wanting from you is it friendship or isit him wanting to work on him self the problem is I have the same trouble I am scared of the deep emotional connection that I have with my gem especially at the start that I didn't help the situation I was scared that I had doubt about us and where she would go because I felt like I found the person I always want to be with for life and I never felt that way not even with my ex who I have children with.

It's true what they say a Sag will find there Gemini or visa versa Gem will find there Sag at least once.

The connection between us is deep on a spiritual level that one or the other gets scared the only way for it to push on and work is to go with the flow and try not to get to deeply involved says the one 🤣👆 .

I’m still in love with him but it doesn’t hurt. Because I know I was the best version of myself with him. I valued our connection/friendship very much. So much I was willing to be friends with him. But he says he can’t be friends and see me too often because he still has feelings for me and seeing me too often makes it too hard for him😅. We are still texting but I’m thinking of not replying anymore I’m getting a bit tired of this. So nice to hear you’re with a Gemini girl, how do you get over your fear ?

If I am honest I am still completely terrified deep down🤣 however, I think you need to be happy inside once one person is happy the other can also, be happy.

I take every day as it comes now with the attitude of if she is going to go she will go or if she wants something else she will have it because at the end of the day she wanted me and got me not going to lie and say I didn't also, want her but she made the moves and told me that every time I would walk past her in work something was telling her I am the one and that she is not going to get me.

We have had terrible arguments between us and falling outs where we have not seen eachother for days here and there but we have had to figure eachother out.

I have learnt not to take somethings she says seriously because one minuet she can say something and feel completely different the next depending on how the week had gone between us.

I was constantly sacred to loose her that I nagged at her over and over about my emotions and asked her if she wants me still over and over and it only dragged the whole relationship down.

We are just rebuilding us now with me acting normal like it was at the start when I didn't know what I had to loose so you go into it open minded and she has since said she feels more close to me already and stuff is starting to get back on track and that was after a few days. We needed fun again and not just family life.

I would say shift your energy away from him if you have kids concentrate on them or if not on yourself and friends post up pics of you having fun going out show people what they are missing.

Take it from me If he wants you for good he will pursue you for sure, probably try joking with you and trying to make you laugh at first etc, its what I would do.

Aww yes. That’s really how Gemini’s are. we could say something so serious in the moment en feel totally different a day later. With me it usually has to do with my emotions. My emotions get the best of me sometimes. I’m glad you figured things out with your gemini.

I don’t have kids but I will try focusing on myself more I’m very busy with work anyways.

Only thing I’m struggling with now is if I should still keep in contact with him. Or just pull away my energy. We have been talking consistently now. Would it be weird if I just stopped replying now? I really don’t feel like having a third conversation about the same thing lol. I love him but he needs to work on himself I don’t feel like it benefits us at this moment to still be in contact.

Yeah totally get that my Gem is the same she absolutely hates it if I ask again about the same thing she will say to me oh not this again lol talk to me about something different bring back the excitement etc, it's probably why she has felt the way she has lately but I wanted commitment from her to much and I should of been going with the flow but in my defence she did promise me that she wanted us to live together and have a future that is what messed us up.

Trouble I had was I came out of a long failing relationship I had with my ex of 8 years and we had children together are own place and security.

That is why I have found it so hard with the lack of commitment.

I get what you mean your on the fence of what to do because you kind of don't want to upset the whole contact but on the flip side you also want to know where you stand.

If you don't mind me asking when you are in contact what sort of things are being said between you guys.

Omg! I hate that too, because usually when we have spoken about stuff and I have let it go in my mind I don’t think it’s necessary to talk about it again because it has been solved. Haha.

I think Gemini’s just say what feels right in the moment. At that moment she made the promise I really think that’s what she meant. The problem is our emotions change 24/7. Something about a person could turn us off completely out of the blue. Just give her space and go with the flow that would be the best thing. But also state on time that is eventually what you would like and want. So she knows.

Our conversations are quite casual. Just about daily stuff and work etc. It’s just the same as when we were in a relationship only now he is not really as affectionate. I can see and feel that he is really focused on not being too invested because it makes it harder for him to move on. And yes this is true I am really on the fence cause we are actually cool now but i can’t shake the feeling that it’s just for the mean time and I might get too invested and really believe we are building a friendship and end up really hurt. I just don’t want to get hurt anymore he has really hurt me with this out of the blue break up.

Yes, I believe your right and I have had to learn this about my partner.

I think I turnt her off to be honest not just me but things that have happened out of our control this is why I am now going with the flow and not putting emotional behaviour into the situations what ever she wants to do I will go with it and respect it.

I have learnt to wait for her to approach me on the emotional side.

We are still planning and booking things together and we do go out different places when we are free everyother weekend we run together alot as well.

It's making me think he isn't as affectionate towards you as he was before I would question why because is there somewhere he is getting advice from could be.

Maybe something that was said I can kind of see how he is feeling but not exactly explain it I think it is a front he's putting on. Just got a feeling.

Yes. With me being a gemini if someone gets too emotional too fast it scares me off. Because i like to be free and not tied down. This happened exactly with me and my ex. He was so emotional and all lovey dovey in the beginning it was too much for me. With gemini's we need time to warm up to you and see if you are really in it for the long haul. Then slowely we will start opening up to you..

Hmm I did think about that he is talking and taking advice from other people maybe like his mom or friends. I know it's a front the last two times I saw the way he looks at me it hasn't changed. he still has feelings for me i know it and he has said it multiple times. He struggles with himself internally and I can't help him with that. The only thing i can do is remove myself from the situation.
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Yeah tell him your removing your self for good and that he has made his decision on you guys and you hear him and that is final as you cannot afford to be messed around with and you won't put up with it set your boundaries I duno why but I'm 85% sure he will come running. I hate to admit it but it's true 🤣.

Thing is I have shown my gem that I am here for the long haul I bond with her children I have them for her when she goes kickboxing I take them up to bed get them to sleep etc I do all of this and more its just somethings she really struggles with she cannot get her head around somethings she hates my ex so she told me she struggles to bond with my children as she feels like she is doing my ex a favour by having the kids etc but it's not it's for me. I kind of understand but it's stupid really because I had abuse for her ex for 3-4 months at the start and I don't feel that way about her children I love them.

I don't come across emotional to her anymore just act normal not needy just got with the flow Gem has to come to you and I duno if she will or not but she's still here so that says something.
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I'm a Sag male with a Gem lady sounds like I aint the only one having confusion only difference is its the other way around 😅.

Heres my advice if you are in love with him and it hurts every time you see him then stop seeing him and get to the route of what he is wanting from you is it friendship or isit him wanting to work on him self the problem is I have the same trouble I am scared of the deep emotional connection that I have with my gem especially at the start that I didn't help the situation I was scared that I had doubt about us and where she would go because I felt like I found the person I always want to be with for life and I never felt that way not even with my ex who I have children with.

It's true what they say a Sag will find there Gemini or visa versa Gem will find there Sag at least once.

The connection between us is deep on a spiritual level that one or the other gets scared the only way for it to push on and work is to go with the flow and try not to get to deeply involved says the one 🤣👆 .

I’m still in love with him but it doesn’t hurt. Because I know I was the best version of myself with him. I valued our connection/friendship very much. So much I was willing to be friends with him. But he says he can’t be friends and see me too often because he still has feelings for me and seeing me too often makes it too hard for him😅. We are still texting but I’m thinking of not replying anymore I’m getting a bit tired of this. So nice to hear you’re with a Gemini girl, how do you get over your fear ?

If I am honest I am still completely terrified deep down🤣 however, I think you need to be happy inside once one person is happy the other can also, be happy.

I take every day as it comes now with the attitude of if she is going to go she will go or if she wants something else she will have it because at the end of the day she wanted me and got me not going to lie and say I didn't also, want her but she made the moves and told me that every time I would walk past her in work something was telling her I am the one and that she is not going to get me.

We have had terrible arguments between us and falling outs where we have not seen eachother for days here and there but we have had to figure eachother out.

I have learnt not to take somethings she says seriously because one minuet she can say something and feel completely different the next depending on how the week had gone between us.

I was constantly sacred to loose her that I nagged at her over and over about my emotions and asked her if she wants me still over and over and it only dragged the whole relationship down.

We are just rebuilding us now with me acting normal like it was at the start when I didn't know what I had to loose so you go into it open minded and she has since said she feels more close to me already and stuff is starting to get back on track and that was after a few days. We needed fun again and not just family life.

I would say shift your energy away from him if you have kids concentrate on them or if not on yourself and friends post up pics of you having fun going out show people what they are missing.

Take it from me If he wants you for good he will pursue you for sure, probably try joking with you and trying to make you laugh at first etc, its what I would do.

Aww yes. That’s really how Gemini’s are. we could say something so serious in the moment en feel totally different a day later. With me it usually has to do with my emotions. My emotions get the best of me sometimes. I’m glad you figured things out with your gemini.

I don’t have kids but I will try focusing on myself more I’m very busy with work anyways.

Only thing I’m struggling with now is if I should still keep in contact with him. Or just pull away my energy. We have been talking consistently now. Would it be weird if I just stopped replying now? I really don’t feel like having a third conversation about the same thing lol. I love him but he needs to work on himself I don’t feel like it benefits us at this moment to still be in contact.

Yeah totally get that my Gem is the same she absolutely hates it if I ask again about the same thing she will say to me oh not this again lol talk to me about something different bring back the excitement etc, it's probably why she has felt the way she has lately but I wanted commitment from her to much and I should of been going with the flow but in my defence she did promise me that she wanted us to live together and have a future that is what messed us up.

Trouble I had was I came out of a long failing relationship I had with my ex of 8 years and we had children together are own place and security.

That is why I have found it so hard with the lack of commitment.

I get what you mean your on the fence of what to do because you kind of don't want to upset the whole contact but on the flip side you also want to know where you stand.

If you don't mind me asking when you are in contact what sort of things are being said between you guys.

Omg! I hate that too, because usually when we have spoken about stuff and I have let it go in my mind I don’t think it’s necessary to talk about it again because it has been solved. Haha.

I think Gemini’s just say what feels right in the moment. At that moment she made the promise I really think that’s what she meant. The problem is our emotions change 24/7. Something about a person could turn us off completely out of the blue. Just give her space and go with the flow that would be the best thing. But also state on time that is eventually what you would like and want. So she knows.

Our conversations are quite casual. Just about daily stuff and work etc. It’s just the same as when we were in a relationship only now he is not really as affectionate. I can see and feel that he is really focused on not being too invested because it makes it harder for him to move on. And yes this is true I am really on the fence cause we are actually cool now but i can’t shake the feeling that it’s just for the mean time and I might get too invested and really believe we are building a friendship and end up really hurt. I just don’t want to get hurt anymore he has really hurt me with this out of the blue break up.

Yes, I believe your right and I have had to learn this about my partner.

I think I turnt her off to be honest not just me but things that have happened out of our control this is why I am now going with the flow and not putting emotional behaviour into the situations what ever she wants to do I will go with it and respect it.

I have learnt to wait for her to approach me on the emotional side.

We are still planning and booking things together and we do go out different places when we are free everyother weekend we run together alot as well.

It's making me think he isn't as affectionate towards you as he was before I would question why because is there somewhere he is getting advice from could be.

Maybe something that was said I can kind of see how he is feeling but not exactly explain it I think it is a front he's putting on. Just got a feeling.

Yes. With me being a gemini if someone gets too emotional too fast it scares me off. Because i like to be free and not tied down. This happened exactly with me and my ex. He was so emotional and all lovey dovey in the beginning it was too much for me. With gemini's we need time to warm up to you and see if you are really in it for the long haul. Then slowely we will start opening up to you..

Hmm I did think about that he is talking and taking advice from other people maybe like his mom or friends. I know it's a front the last two times I saw the way he looks at me it hasn't changed. he still has feelings for me i know it and he has said it multiple times. He struggles with himself internally and I can't help him with that. The only thing i can do is remove myself from the situation.
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Just do what's good for your own peace of mind.

My partner tells me she doesn't want anyone else if she isn't to be with me she will be alone.

She says there isn't anyone else and she isn't interested.

I believe its all a front and if he thinks he can out play a Gem he's stupid it won't work.

So he should drop the act or loose you.

I bet he drops it I could put money on it 🤣😅. Mind you I never win at anything😂.
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If I am honest I am still completely terrified deep down🤣 however, I think you need to be happy inside once one person is happy the other can also, be happy.

I take every day as it comes now with the attitude of if she is going to go she will go or if she wants something else she will have it because at the end of the day she wanted me and got me not going to lie and say I didn't also, want her but she made the moves and told me that every time I would walk past her in work something was telling her I am the one and that she is not going to get me.

We have had terrible arguments between us and falling outs where we have not seen eachother for days here and there but we have had to figure eachother out.

I have learnt not to take somethings she says seriously because one minuet she can say something and feel completely different the next depending on how the week had gone between us.

I was constantly sacred to loose her that I nagged at her over and over about my emotions and asked her if she wants me still over and over and it only dragged the whole relationship down.

We are just rebuilding us now with me acting normal like it was at the start when I didn't know what I had to loose so you go into it open minded and she has since said she feels more close to me already and stuff is starting to get back on track and that was after a few days. We needed fun again and not just family life.

I would say shift your energy away from him if you have kids concentrate on them or if not on yourself and friends post up pics of you having fun going out show people what they are missing.

Take it from me If he wants you for good he will pursue you for sure, probably try joking with you and trying to make you laugh at first etc, its what I would do.

Aww yes. That’s really how Gemini’s are. we could say something so serious in the moment en feel totally different a day later. With me it usually has to do with my emotions. My emotions get the best of me sometimes. I’m glad you figured things out with your gemini.

I don’t have kids but I will try focusing on myself more I’m very busy with work anyways.

Only thing I’m struggling with now is if I should still keep in contact with him. Or just pull away my energy. We have been talking consistently now. Would it be weird if I just stopped replying now? I really don’t feel like having a third conversation about the same thing lol. I love him but he needs to work on himself I don’t feel like it benefits us at this moment to still be in contact.

Yeah totally get that my Gem is the same she absolutely hates it if I ask again about the same thing she will say to me oh not this again lol talk to me about something different bring back the excitement etc, it's probably why she has felt the way she has lately but I wanted commitment from her to much and I should of been going with the flow but in my defence she did promise me that she wanted us to live together and have a future that is what messed us up.

Trouble I had was I came out of a long failing relationship I had with my ex of 8 years and we had children together are own place and security.

That is why I have found it so hard with the lack of commitment.

I get what you mean your on the fence of what to do because you kind of don't want to upset the whole contact but on the flip side you also want to know where you stand.

If you don't mind me asking when you are in contact what sort of things are being said between you guys.

Omg! I hate that too, because usually when we have spoken about stuff and I have let it go in my mind I don’t think it’s necessary to talk about it again because it has been solved. Haha.

I think Gemini’s just say what feels right in the moment. At that moment she made the promise I really think that’s what she meant. The problem is our emotions change 24/7. Something about a person could turn us off completely out of the blue. Just give her space and go with the flow that would be the best thing. But also state on time that is eventually what you would like and want. So she knows.

Our conversations are quite casual. Just about daily stuff and work etc. It’s just the same as when we were in a relationship only now he is not really as affectionate. I can see and feel that he is really focused on not being too invested because it makes it harder for him to move on. And yes this is true I am really on the fence cause we are actually cool now but i can’t shake the feeling that it’s just for the mean time and I might get too invested and really believe we are building a friendship and end up really hurt. I just don’t want to get hurt anymore he has really hurt me with this out of the blue break up.

Yes, I believe your right and I have had to learn this about my partner.

I think I turnt her off to be honest not just me but things that have happened out of our control this is why I am now going with the flow and not putting emotional behaviour into the situations what ever she wants to do I will go with it and respect it.

I have learnt to wait for her to approach me on the emotional side.

We are still planning and booking things together and we do go out different places when we are free everyother weekend we run together alot as well.

It's making me think he isn't as affectionate towards you as he was before I would question why because is there somewhere he is getting advice from could be.

Maybe something that was said I can kind of see how he is feeling but not exactly explain it I think it is a front he's putting on. Just got a feeling.

Yes. With me being a gemini if someone gets too emotional too fast it scares me off. Because i like to be free and not tied down. This happened exactly with me and my ex. He was so emotional and all lovey dovey in the beginning it was too much for me. With gemini's we need time to warm up to you and see if you are really in it for the long haul. Then slowely we will start opening up to you..

Hmm I did think about that he is talking and taking advice from other people maybe like his mom or friends. I know it's a front the last two times I saw the way he looks at me it hasn't changed. he still has feelings for me i know it and he has said it multiple times. He struggles with himself internally and I can't help him with that. The only thing i can do is remove myself from the situation.

Yeah tell him your removing your self for good and that he has made his decision on you guys and you hear him and that is final as you cannot afford to be messed around with and you won't put up with it set your boundaries I duno why but I'm 85% sure he will come running. I hate to admit it but it's true 🤣.

Thing is I have shown my gem that I am here for the long haul I bond with her children I have them for her when she goes kickboxing I take them up to bed get them to sleep etc I do all of this and more its just somethings she really struggles with she cannot get her head around somethings she hates my ex so she told me she struggles to bond with my children as she feels like she is doing my ex a favour by having the kids etc but it's not it's for me. I kind of understand but it's stupid really because I had abuse for her ex for 3-4 months at the start and I don't feel that way about her children I love them.

I don't come across emotional to her anymore just act normal not needy just got with the flow Gem has to come to you and I duno if she will or not but she's still here so that says something.


Yeah, i will be sending him a message in a min. Hahaha Why do you think that he will come back running? He is so set on that we will never get back together. So yeah it is what it is. I dont think it's necessary for me to delete or block him tho. What do you think?

Hmm and i think hearing your story there is more going on with your gemini. I myself love children and if i love my partner i will love his children as my own. I do think this is something you need to talk about. Do you know her other placements?
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It's obvious he's being selfish, isnt he?

He already checked out, in his head he knows he doesnt want a relationship anymore.

He's just dragging you along until he finds something to fully focus on. Like a new life or a new person.

I used to do this ages ago.

Like gemini, sags are usually wishy washy in a decision making process. But once we decides, it's usually final. He already decided not wanting a relationship with you. He just hasnt got his new life lined up yet, hence this behaviour.

Remove yourself from the situation and see what happens. Dont need to give ultimatum just remove yourself. Being friends with him will just hurt you.

You’re so right. He said he wants to be friends but it’s hard for him to see me too often because he will be thinking back about the old times and because he still has strong feelings for me he’s afraid he will want to go back to the relationship.

Couple of days after we broke up I just felt the decision he had made was an emotional one so we agreed to talk again and we did. During that talk it was like he regretted his decision and wanted to come back. He was saying stuff to see my reaction I guess? So i just said it’s all right better this way. Cant be with someone who keeps wanting me and then don’t

Just doesn’t make sense to me. After that conversation we were cool and decided to be friends. I noticed suddenly there were only slow replies like 5-6 hrs later. So I stopped talking altogether for like 4 days. Then suddenly he texted me: that he wanted to “ define our friendship”

So we had a conversation in person and I told him I can’t be friends with someone who doesn’t put in the same effort as I do. Cause when I see you as my friend you are really my friend there is not inbetween.

For him it was like yeah i have different kind of friends blabla and I all treat them differently.

Then he said if I would invite him to my birthday he would come? Which I obviously won’t but still why?

After that conversation where I told him i thinks he doesn’t put effort and he can’t expect me to talk with him if the replies in a conversation take 5-6 hrs everytime. Whiles when we were in a relationship he was always texting me within 10 mins.



Since that conversation we had I’ve seen a whole 360 in his behaviour he replies fast and really talk to me. But I’m guarded. I really don’t understand him.

What do you think I should do best? Should I just stop the contact all completely or should I tell him that we need to stop all the contact? I just feel that when invest too much in “our friendship” he will really hurt me once he finds someone else to focus on.

Sorry for my long reply wanted to give you some more insight.

So he has changed and now you're uncertain? 😝

I cant make up my mind. The part where he said he treats his friend differently etc could mean 2 things: he has compartementalized you into a friends with romance and wants no relationship or he's just playing games wanting some worship through drama. (Leo moon lol)

I think you need to have a conversation with him again and this time say it from the start it will be final.. what the hell does he wants and tell him you cant be friends with him. So he wants you in or out?

Being friends with him will just hurt you. He doesnt know what he wants and will keep on dragging you until he does. And it probably could take weeks, months or years lol. Even if he dates around im certain he wont tell you.

Yeah that’s really true! I’m really an overthinker.? I really don’t feel like having a third conversation about the same thing lol. I love him but he needs to work on himself I don’t feel like it benefits us at this moment to still be in contact.

We did speak last night about just casual stuff but today I woke up and thought about the way we are now is not working for both of us he says he needs to work on himself and move on and I want to focus on moving on I can’t do that when still in contact.

First i thought i wanted to stay in contact but now the more I think about it and the insight i get from you all I think it’s best we don’t have any contact for now. And I’m really sure that if he decides to date around he won’t tell me. So I’d rather remove myself from the situation than to get more hurt than I am.

I don’t really feel like having another conversation with him about it. I already told him how i am in my friendships and there is not inbetween. He said he had different types of friends. But that don’t mean it is the same for me. He also said he doesn’t believen that the connection we had and the relationship we had can ever go from that to just friends. He says so much stuff. It’s really confusing lol.

Before you do anything, wait for 48 hours. If you still want to do it then do it.

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Hahaha okay! But I still haven’t replied to what he said last night isn’t that weird to wait 48 hrs and then suddenly say something like this?

Ulgh I hate myself sometimes I’m OVERTHINKING all the time 😂
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It's obvious he's being selfish, isnt he?

He already checked out, in his head he knows he doesnt want a relationship anymore.

He's just dragging you along until he finds something to fully focus on. Like a new life or a new person.

I used to do this ages ago.

Like gemini, sags are usually wishy washy in a decision making process. But once we decides, it's usually final. He already decided not wanting a relationship with you. He just hasnt got his new life lined up yet, hence this behaviour.

Remove yourself from the situation and see what happens. Dont need to give ultimatum just remove yourself. Being friends with him will just hurt you.

You’re so right. He said he wants to be friends but it’s hard for him to see me too often because he will be thinking back about the old times and because he still has strong feelings for me he’s afraid he will want to go back to the relationship.

Couple of days after we broke up I just felt the decision he had made was an emotional one so we agreed to talk again and we did. During that talk it was like he regretted his decision and wanted to come back. He was saying stuff to see my reaction I guess? So i just said it’s all right better this way. Cant be with someone who keeps wanting me and then don’t

Just doesn’t make sense to me. After that conversation we were cool and decided to be friends. I noticed suddenly there were only slow replies like 5-6 hrs later. So I stopped talking altogether for like 4 days. Then suddenly he texted me: that he wanted to “ define our friendship”

So we had a conversation in person and I told him I can’t be friends with someone who doesn’t put in the same effort as I do. Cause when I see you as my friend you are really my friend there is not inbetween.

For him it was like yeah i have different kind of friends blabla and I all treat them differently.

Then he said if I would invite him to my birthday he would come? Which I obviously won’t but still why?

After that conversation where I told him i thinks he doesn’t put effort and he can’t expect me to talk with him if the replies in a conversation take 5-6 hrs everytime. Whiles when we were in a relationship he was always texting me within 10 mins.



Since that conversation we had I’ve seen a whole 360 in his behaviour he replies fast and really talk to me. But I’m guarded. I really don’t understand him.

What do you think I should do best? Should I just stop the contact all completely or should I tell him that we need to stop all the contact? I just feel that when invest too much in “our friendship” he will really hurt me once he finds someone else to focus on.

Sorry for my long reply wanted to give you some more insight.

So he has changed and now you're uncertain? 😝

I cant make up my mind. The part where he said he treats his friend differently etc could mean 2 things: he has compartementalized you into a friends with romance and wants no relationship or he's just playing games wanting some worship through drama. (Leo moon lol)

I think you need to have a conversation with him again and this time say it from the start it will be final.. what the hell does he wants and tell him you cant be friends with him. So he wants you in or out?

Being friends with him will just hurt you. He doesnt know what he wants and will keep on dragging you until he does. And it probably could take weeks, months or years lol. Even if he dates around im certain he wont tell you.

I do also, believe he is being wishy washy I have also done this. You could be strung along for the ride until he finds something better in his eyes.

Gem and Sag are quite similar even though we are opposites.

I could be being strung along for a ride myself right now with my Gem she tells me she doesn't want to be with me when he have had bad arguments and then when asked the other night what she wants after bot saying a word she replies I want to rebuild with you and take it slowly but I can their is something still missing there she isn't happy I know it doesnt just happen over night but when you know you know this is why I have the attitude I do now.

🤣🤣

There you go.. now you know 😆

Sag and gem are pretty much the same. The only differences is they think a lot while acting.. while we act now think later 🤣
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Hahaha 🤣🤣 this is so true I will think so much before I do something and he would always just do it and think or regret it afterwards hmmm
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It's obvious he's being selfish, isnt he?

He already checked out, in his head he knows he doesnt want a relationship anymore.

He's just dragging you along until he finds something to fully focus on. Like a new life or a new person.

I used to do this ages ago.

Like gemini, sags are usually wishy washy in a decision making process. But once we decides, it's usually final. He already decided not wanting a relationship with you. He just hasnt got his new life lined up yet, hence this behaviour.

Remove yourself from the situation and see what happens. Dont need to give ultimatum just remove yourself. Being friends with him will just hurt you.

You’re so right. He said he wants to be friends but it’s hard for him to see me too often because he will be thinking back about the old times and because he still has strong feelings for me he’s afraid he will want to go back to the relationship.

Couple of days after we broke up I just felt the decision he had made was an emotional one so we agreed to talk again and we did. During that talk it was like he regretted his decision and wanted to come back. He was saying stuff to see my reaction I guess? So i just said it’s all right better this way. Cant be with someone who keeps wanting me and then don’t

Just doesn’t make sense to me. After that conversation we were cool and decided to be friends. I noticed suddenly there were only slow replies like 5-6 hrs later. So I stopped talking altogether for like 4 days. Then suddenly he texted me: that he wanted to “ define our friendship”

So we had a conversation in person and I told him I can’t be friends with someone who doesn’t put in the same effort as I do. Cause when I see you as my friend you are really my friend there is not inbetween.

For him it was like yeah i have different kind of friends blabla and I all treat them differently.

Then he said if I would invite him to my birthday he would come? Which I obviously won’t but still why?

After that conversation where I told him i thinks he doesn’t put effort and he can’t expect me to talk with him if the replies in a conversation take 5-6 hrs everytime. Whiles when we were in a relationship he was always texting me within 10 mins.



Since that conversation we had I’ve seen a whole 360 in his behaviour he replies fast and really talk to me. But I’m guarded. I really don’t understand him.

What do you think I should do best? Should I just stop the contact all completely or should I tell him that we need to stop all the contact? I just feel that when invest too much in “our friendship” he will really hurt me once he finds someone else to focus on.

Sorry for my long reply wanted to give you some more insight.

So he has changed and now you're uncertain? 😝

I cant make up my mind. The part where he said he treats his friend differently etc could mean 2 things: he has compartementalized you into a friends with romance and wants no relationship or he's just playing games wanting some worship through drama. (Leo moon lol)

I think you need to have a conversation with him again and this time say it from the start it will be final.. what the hell does he wants and tell him you cant be friends with him. So he wants you in or out?

Being friends with him will just hurt you. He doesnt know what he wants and will keep on dragging you until he does. And it probably could take weeks, months or years lol. Even if he dates around im certain he wont tell you.

I do also, believe he is being wishy washy I have also done this. You could be strung along for the ride until he finds something better in his eyes.

Gem and Sag are quite similar even though we are opposites.

I could be being strung along for a ride myself right now with my Gem she tells me she doesn't want to be with me when he have had bad arguments and then when asked the other night what she wants after bot saying a word she replies I want to rebuild with you and take it slowly but I can their is something still missing there she isn't happy I know it doesnt just happen over night but when you know you know this is why I have the attitude I do now.

🤣🤣

There you go.. now you know 😆

Sag and gem are pretty much the same. The only differences is they think a lot while acting.. while we act now think later 🤣
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If I am honest I am still completely terrified deep down🤣 however, I think you need to be happy inside once one person is happy the other can also, be happy.

I take every day as it comes now with the attitude of if she is going to go she will go or if she wants something else she will have it because at the end of the day she wanted me and got me not going to lie and say I didn't also, want her but she made the moves and told me that every time I would walk past her in work something was telling her I am the one and that she is not going to get me.

We have had terrible arguments between us and falling outs where we have not seen eachother for days here and there but we have had to figure eachother out.

I have learnt not to take somethings she says seriously because one minuet she can say something and feel completely different the next depending on how the week had gone between us.

I was constantly sacred to loose her that I nagged at her over and over about my emotions and asked her if she wants me still over and over and it only dragged the whole relationship down.

We are just rebuilding us now with me acting normal like it was at the start when I didn't know what I had to loose so you go into it open minded and she has since said she feels more close to me already and stuff is starting to get back on track and that was after a few days. We needed fun again and not just family life.

I would say shift your energy away from him if you have kids concentrate on them or if not on yourself and friends post up pics of you having fun going out show people what they are missing.

Take it from me If he wants you for good he will pursue you for sure, probably try joking with you and trying to make you laugh at first etc, its what I would do.

Aww yes. That’s really how Gemini’s are. we could say something so serious in the moment en feel totally different a day later. With me it usually has to do with my emotions. My emotions get the best of me sometimes. I’m glad you figured things out with your gemini.

I don’t have kids but I will try focusing on myself more I’m very busy with work anyways.

Only thing I’m struggling with now is if I should still keep in contact with him. Or just pull away my energy. We have been talking consistently now. Would it be weird if I just stopped replying now? I really don’t feel like having a third conversation about the same thing lol. I love him but he needs to work on himself I don’t feel like it benefits us at this moment to still be in contact.

Yeah totally get that my Gem is the same she absolutely hates it if I ask again about the same thing she will say to me oh not this again lol talk to me about something different bring back the excitement etc, it's probably why she has felt the way she has lately but I wanted commitment from her to much and I should of been going with the flow but in my defence she did promise me that she wanted us to live together and have a future that is what messed us up.

Trouble I had was I came out of a long failing relationship I had with my ex of 8 years and we had children together are own place and security.

That is why I have found it so hard with the lack of commitment.

I get what you mean your on the fence of what to do because you kind of don't want to upset the whole contact but on the flip side you also want to know where you stand.

If you don't mind me asking when you are in contact what sort of things are being said between you guys.

Omg! I hate that too, because usually when we have spoken about stuff and I have let it go in my mind I don’t think it’s necessary to talk about it again because it has been solved. Haha.

I think Gemini’s just say what feels right in the moment. At that moment she made the promise I really think that’s what she meant. The problem is our emotions change 24/7. Something about a person could turn us off completely out of the blue. Just give her space and go with the flow that would be the best thing. But also state on time that is eventually what you would like and want. So she knows.

Our conversations are quite casual. Just about daily stuff and work etc. It’s just the same as when we were in a relationship only now he is not really as affectionate. I can see and feel that he is really focused on not being too invested because it makes it harder for him to move on. And yes this is true I am really on the fence cause we are actually cool now but i can’t shake the feeling that it’s just for the mean time and I might get too invested and really believe we are building a friendship and end up really hurt. I just don’t want to get hurt anymore he has really hurt me with this out of the blue break up.

Yes, I believe your right and I have had to learn this about my partner.

I think I turnt her off to be honest not just me but things that have happened out of our control this is why I am now going with the flow and not putting emotional behaviour into the situations what ever she wants to do I will go with it and respect it.

I have learnt to wait for her to approach me on the emotional side.

We are still planning and booking things together and we do go out different places when we are free everyother weekend we run together alot as well.

It's making me think he isn't as affectionate towards you as he was before I would question why because is there somewhere he is getting advice from could be.

Maybe something that was said I can kind of see how he is feeling but not exactly explain it I think it is a front he's putting on. Just got a feeling.

Yes. With me being a gemini if someone gets too emotional too fast it scares me off. Because i like to be free and not tied down. This happened exactly with me and my ex. He was so emotional and all lovey dovey in the beginning it was too much for me. With gemini's we need time to warm up to you and see if you are really in it for the long haul. Then slowely we will start opening up to you..

Hmm I did think about that he is talking and taking advice from other people maybe like his mom or friends. I know it's a front the last two times I saw the way he looks at me it hasn't changed. he still has feelings for me i know it and he has said it multiple times. He struggles with himself internally and I can't help him with that. The only thing i can do is remove myself from the situation.

Yeah tell him your removing your self for good and that he has made his decision on you guys and you hear him and that is final as you cannot afford to be messed around with and you won't put up with it set your boundaries I duno why but I'm 85% sure he will come running. I hate to admit it but it's true 🤣.

Thing is I have shown my gem that I am here for the long haul I bond with her children I have them for her when she goes kickboxing I take them up to bed get them to sleep etc I do all of this and more its just somethings she really struggles with she cannot get her head around somethings she hates my ex so she told me she struggles to bond with my children as she feels like she is doing my ex a favour by having the kids etc but it's not it's for me. I kind of understand but it's stupid really because I had abuse for her ex for 3-4 months at the start and I don't feel that way about her children I love them.

I don't come across emotional to her anymore just act normal not needy just got with the flow Gem has to come to you and I duno if she will or not but she's still here so that says something.

Yeah, i will be sending him a message in a min. Hahaha Why do you think that he will come back running? He is so set on that we will never get back together. So yeah it is what it is. I dont think it's necessary for me to delete or block him tho. What do you think?

Hmm and i think hearing your story there is more going on with your gemini. I myself love children and if i love my partner i will love his children as my own. I do think this is something you need to talk about. Do you know her other placements?

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Moon - Virgo

Merc - Gem

Venus - Gem

The thing is alot has gone on she does not feel accepted into the family as my ex has been in the back ground constantly with some of my family members going around there house with my kids etc that has started to fizzle out the past 4 months.

She is brilliant with my kids do not get me wrong but she told me when we was arguing that she is struggling to want to bond because she hates their mother because she is so lazy and don't do anything for her kids etc.

I am always doing things for her though like her garden picking up things she has bought alot of things I think I have turnt her off because of the way I was and because of the way my family was.

I the only way I can reverse that if possible at all is to be fun I think.
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If I am honest I am still completely terrified deep down🤣 however, I think you need to be happy inside once one person is happy the other can also, be happy.

I take every day as it comes now with the attitude of if she is going to go she will go or if she wants something else she will have it because at the end of the day she wanted me and got me not going to lie and say I didn't also, want her but she made the moves and told me that every time I would walk past her in work something was telling her I am the one and that she is not going to get me.

We have had terrible arguments between us and falling outs where we have not seen eachother for days here and there but we have had to figure eachother out.

I have learnt not to take somethings she says seriously because one minuet she can say something and feel completely different the next depending on how the week had gone between us.

I was constantly sacred to loose her that I nagged at her over and over about my emotions and asked her if she wants me still over and over and it only dragged the whole relationship down.

We are just rebuilding us now with me acting normal like it was at the start when I didn't know what I had to loose so you go into it open minded and she has since said she feels more close to me already and stuff is starting to get back on track and that was after a few days. We needed fun again and not just family life.

I would say shift your energy away from him if you have kids concentrate on them or if not on yourself and friends post up pics of you having fun going out show people what they are missing.

Take it from me If he wants you for good he will pursue you for sure, probably try joking with you and trying to make you laugh at first etc, its what I would do.

Aww yes. That’s really how Gemini’s are. we could say something so serious in the moment en feel totally different a day later. With me it usually has to do with my emotions. My emotions get the best of me sometimes. I’m glad you figured things out with your gemini.

I don’t have kids but I will try focusing on myself more I’m very busy with work anyways.

Only thing I’m struggling with now is if I should still keep in contact with him. Or just pull away my energy. We have been talking consistently now. Would it be weird if I just stopped replying now? I really don’t feel like having a third conversation about the same thing lol. I love him but he needs to work on himself I don’t feel like it benefits us at this moment to still be in contact.

Yeah totally get that my Gem is the same she absolutely hates it if I ask again about the same thing she will say to me oh not this again lol talk to me about something different bring back the excitement etc, it's probably why she has felt the way she has lately but I wanted commitment from her to much and I should of been going with the flow but in my defence she did promise me that she wanted us to live together and have a future that is what messed us up.

Trouble I had was I came out of a long failing relationship I had with my ex of 8 years and we had children together are own place and security.

That is why I have found it so hard with the lack of commitment.

I get what you mean your on the fence of what to do because you kind of don't want to upset the whole contact but on the flip side you also want to know where you stand.

If you don't mind me asking when you are in contact what sort of things are being said between you guys.

Omg! I hate that too, because usually when we have spoken about stuff and I have let it go in my mind I don’t think it’s necessary to talk about it again because it has been solved. Haha.

I think Gemini’s just say what feels right in the moment. At that moment she made the promise I really think that’s what she meant. The problem is our emotions change 24/7. Something about a person could turn us off completely out of the blue. Just give her space and go with the flow that would be the best thing. But also state on time that is eventually what you would like and want. So she knows.

Our conversations are quite casual. Just about daily stuff and work etc. It’s just the same as when we were in a relationship only now he is not really as affectionate. I can see and feel that he is really focused on not being too invested because it makes it harder for him to move on. And yes this is true I am really on the fence cause we are actually cool now but i can’t shake the feeling that it’s just for the mean time and I might get too invested and really believe we are building a friendship and end up really hurt. I just don’t want to get hurt anymore he has really hurt me with this out of the blue break up.

Yes, I believe your right and I have had to learn this about my partner.

I think I turnt her off to be honest not just me but things that have happened out of our control this is why I am now going with the flow and not putting emotional behaviour into the situations what ever she wants to do I will go with it and respect it.

I have learnt to wait for her to approach me on the emotional side.

We are still planning and booking things together and we do go out different places when we are free everyother weekend we run together alot as well.

It's making me think he isn't as affectionate towards you as he was before I would question why because is there somewhere he is getting advice from could be.

Maybe something that was said I can kind of see how he is feeling but not exactly explain it I think it is a front he's putting on. Just got a feeling.

Yes. With me being a gemini if someone gets too emotional too fast it scares me off. Because i like to be free and not tied down. This happened exactly with me and my ex. He was so emotional and all lovey dovey in the beginning it was too much for me. With gemini's we need time to warm up to you and see if you are really in it for the long haul. Then slowely we will start opening up to you..

Hmm I did think about that he is talking and taking advice from other people maybe like his mom or friends. I know it's a front the last two times I saw the way he looks at me it hasn't changed. he still has feelings for me i know it and he has said it multiple times. He struggles with himself internally and I can't help him with that. The only thing i can do is remove myself from the situation.

Yeah tell him your removing your self for good and that he has made his decision on you guys and you hear him and that is final as you cannot afford to be messed around with and you won't put up with it set your boundaries I duno why but I'm 85% sure he will come running. I hate to admit it but it's true 🤣.

Thing is I have shown my gem that I am here for the long haul I bond with her children I have them for her when she goes kickboxing I take them up to bed get them to sleep etc I do all of this and more its just somethings she really struggles with she cannot get her head around somethings she hates my ex so she told me she struggles to bond with my children as she feels like she is doing my ex a favour by having the kids etc but it's not it's for me. I kind of understand but it's stupid really because I had abuse for her ex for 3-4 months at the start and I don't feel that way about her children I love them.

I don't come across emotional to her anymore just act normal not needy just got with the flow Gem has to come to you and I duno if she will or not but she's still here so that says something.

Yeah, i will be sending him a message in a min. Hahaha Why do you think that he will come back running? He is so set on that we will never get back together. So yeah it is what it is. I dont think it's necessary for me to delete or block him tho. What do you think?

Hmm and i think hearing your story there is more going on with your gemini. I myself love children and if i love my partner i will love his children as my own. I do think this is something you need to talk about. Do you know her other placements?

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Well she told me the other day she doesn't want to be with me but still went out with me all day Saturday and Sunday for food and drinks and then had it with me on the Sunday night and after told me she still doesn't know what she wants and after that I didn't say a word about it just went with the flow and she has since been slightly cuddling and we have had it the past two days and I asked her Tuesday night what isit you want and she said for us to rebuild but go slowly.

I think what she wants is the nagging and neediness to stop on my side and for us to just have fun and go with the flow again so we can be happy we have been joking around etc today so thats good.

I feel like its a front from your Sag and I think once you call it quit he'll come running apologising and wanting to take you out.
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If I am honest I am still completely terrified deep down🤣 however, I think you need to be happy inside once one person is happy the other can also, be happy.

I take every day as it comes now with the attitude of if she is going to go she will go or if she wants something else she will have it because at the end of the day she wanted me and got me not going to lie and say I didn't also, want her but she made the moves and told me that every time I would walk past her in work something was telling her I am the one and that she is not going to get me.

We have had terrible arguments between us and falling outs where we have not seen eachother for days here and there but we have had to figure eachother out.

I have learnt not to take somethings she says seriously because one minuet she can say something and feel completely different the next depending on how the week had gone between us.

I was constantly sacred to loose her that I nagged at her over and over about my emotions and asked her if she wants me still over and over and it only dragged the whole relationship down.

We are just rebuilding us now with me acting normal like it was at the start when I didn't know what I had to loose so you go into it open minded and she has since said she feels more close to me already and stuff is starting to get back on track and that was after a few days. We needed fun again and not just family life.

I would say shift your energy away from him if you have kids concentrate on them or if not on yourself and friends post up pics of you having fun going out show people what they are missing.

Take it from me If he wants you for good he will pursue you for sure, probably try joking with you and trying to make you laugh at first etc, its what I would do.

Aww yes. That’s really how Gemini’s are. we could say something so serious in the moment en feel totally different a day later. With me it usually has to do with my emotions. My emotions get the best of me sometimes. I’m glad you figured things out with your gemini.

I don’t have kids but I will try focusing on myself more I’m very busy with work anyways.

Only thing I’m struggling with now is if I should still keep in contact with him. Or just pull away my energy. We have been talking consistently now. Would it be weird if I just stopped replying now? I really don’t feel like having a third conversation about the same thing lol. I love him but he needs to work on himself I don’t feel like it benefits us at this moment to still be in contact.

Yeah totally get that my Gem is the same she absolutely hates it if I ask again about the same thing she will say to me oh not this again lol talk to me about something different bring back the excitement etc, it's probably why she has felt the way she has lately but I wanted commitment from her to much and I should of been going with the flow but in my defence she did promise me that she wanted us to live together and have a future that is what messed us up.

Trouble I had was I came out of a long failing relationship I had with my ex of 8 years and we had children together are own place and security.

That is why I have found it so hard with the lack of commitment.

I get what you mean your on the fence of what to do because you kind of don't want to upset the whole contact but on the flip side you also want to know where you stand.

If you don't mind me asking when you are in contact what sort of things are being said between you guys.

Omg! I hate that too, because usually when we have spoken about stuff and I have let it go in my mind I don’t think it’s necessary to talk about it again because it has been solved. Haha.

I think Gemini’s just say what feels right in the moment. At that moment she made the promise I really think that’s what she meant. The problem is our emotions change 24/7. Something about a person could turn us off completely out of the blue. Just give her space and go with the flow that would be the best thing. But also state on time that is eventually what you would like and want. So she knows.

Our conversations are quite casual. Just about daily stuff and work etc. It’s just the same as when we were in a relationship only now he is not really as affectionate. I can see and feel that he is really focused on not being too invested because it makes it harder for him to move on. And yes this is true I am really on the fence cause we are actually cool now but i can’t shake the feeling that it’s just for the mean time and I might get too invested and really believe we are building a friendship and end up really hurt. I just don’t want to get hurt anymore he has really hurt me with this out of the blue break up.

Yes, I believe your right and I have had to learn this about my partner.

I think I turnt her off to be honest not just me but things that have happened out of our control this is why I am now going with the flow and not putting emotional behaviour into the situations what ever she wants to do I will go with it and respect it.

I have learnt to wait for her to approach me on the emotional side.

We are still planning and booking things together and we do go out different places when we are free everyother weekend we run together alot as well.

It's making me think he isn't as affectionate towards you as he was before I would question why because is there somewhere he is getting advice from could be.

Maybe something that was said I can kind of see how he is feeling but not exactly explain it I think it is a front he's putting on. Just got a feeling.

Yes. With me being a gemini if someone gets too emotional too fast it scares me off. Because i like to be free and not tied down. This happened exactly with me and my ex. He was so emotional and all lovey dovey in the beginning it was too much for me. With gemini's we need time to warm up to you and see if you are really in it for the long haul. Then slowely we will start opening up to you..

Hmm I did think about that he is talking and taking advice from other people maybe like his mom or friends. I know it's a front the last two times I saw the way he looks at me it hasn't changed. he still has feelings for me i know it and he has said it multiple times. He struggles with himself internally and I can't help him with that. The only thing i can do is remove myself from the situation.

Yeah tell him your removing your self for good and that he has made his decision on you guys and you hear him and that is final as you cannot afford to be messed around with and you won't put up with it set your boundaries I duno why but I'm 85% sure he will come running. I hate to admit it but it's true 🤣.

Thing is I have shown my gem that I am here for the long haul I bond with her children I have them for her when she goes kickboxing I take them up to bed get them to sleep etc I do all of this and more its just somethings she really struggles with she cannot get her head around somethings she hates my ex so she told me she struggles to bond with my children as she feels like she is doing my ex a favour by having the kids etc but it's not it's for me. I kind of understand but it's stupid really because I had abuse for her ex for 3-4 months at the start and I don't feel that way about her children I love them.

I don't come across emotional to her anymore just act normal not needy just got with the flow Gem has to come to you and I duno if she will or not but she's still here so that says something.

Yeah, i will be sending him a message in a min. Hahaha Why do you think that he will come back running? He is so set on that we will never get back together. So yeah it is what it is. I dont think it's necessary for me to delete or block him tho. What do you think?

Hmm and i think hearing your story there is more going on with your gemini. I myself love children and if i love my partner i will love his children as my own. I do think this is something you need to talk about. Do you know her other placements?

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Why would she go out with me and continue this and book things for August if she did not want to be with me. This is why I don't take what she says personally anymore.
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It's obvious he's being selfish, isnt he?

He already checked out, in his head he knows he doesnt want a relationship anymore.

He's just dragging you along until he finds something to fully focus on. Like a new life or a new person.

I used to do this ages ago.

Like gemini, sags are usually wishy washy in a decision making process. But once we decides, it's usually final. He already decided not wanting a relationship with you. He just hasnt got his new life lined up yet, hence this behaviour.

Remove yourself from the situation and see what happens. Dont need to give ultimatum just remove yourself. Being friends with him will just hurt you.

You’re so right. He said he wants to be friends but it’s hard for him to see me too often because he will be thinking back about the old times and because he still has strong feelings for me he’s afraid he will want to go back to the relationship.

Couple of days after we broke up I just felt the decision he had made was an emotional one so we agreed to talk again and we did. During that talk it was like he regretted his decision and wanted to come back. He was saying stuff to see my reaction I guess? So i just said it’s all right better this way. Cant be with someone who keeps wanting me and then don’t

Just doesn’t make sense to me. After that conversation we were cool and decided to be friends. I noticed suddenly there were only slow replies like 5-6 hrs later. So I stopped talking altogether for like 4 days. Then suddenly he texted me: that he wanted to “ define our friendship”

So we had a conversation in person and I told him I can’t be friends with someone who doesn’t put in the same effort as I do. Cause when I see you as my friend you are really my friend there is not inbetween.

For him it was like yeah i have different kind of friends blabla and I all treat them differently.

Then he said if I would invite him to my birthday he would come? Which I obviously won’t but still why?

After that conversation where I told him i thinks he doesn’t put effort and he can’t expect me to talk with him if the replies in a conversation take 5-6 hrs everytime. Whiles when we were in a relationship he was always texting me within 10 mins.



Since that conversation we had I’ve seen a whole 360 in his behaviour he replies fast and really talk to me. But I’m guarded. I really don’t understand him.

What do you think I should do best? Should I just stop the contact all completely or should I tell him that we need to stop all the contact? I just feel that when invest too much in “our friendship” he will really hurt me once he finds someone else to focus on.

Sorry for my long reply wanted to give you some more insight.

So he has changed and now you're uncertain? 😝

I cant make up my mind. The part where he said he treats his friend differently etc could mean 2 things: he has compartementalized you into a friends with romance and wants no relationship or he's just playing games wanting some worship through drama. (Leo moon lol)

I think you need to have a conversation with him again and this time say it from the start it will be final.. what the hell does he wants and tell him you cant be friends with him. So he wants you in or out?

Being friends with him will just hurt you. He doesnt know what he wants and will keep on dragging you until he does. And it probably could take weeks, months or years lol. Even if he dates around im certain he wont tell you.

Yeah that’s really true! I’m really an overthinker.? I really don’t feel like having a third conversation about the same thing lol. I love him but he needs to work on himself I don’t feel like it benefits us at this moment to still be in contact.

We did speak last night about just casual stuff but today I woke up and thought about the way we are now is not working for both of us he says he needs to work on himself and move on and I want to focus on moving on I can’t do that when still in contact.

First i thought i wanted to stay in contact but now the more I think about it and the insight i get from you all I think it’s best we don’t have any contact for now. And I’m really sure that if he decides to date around he won’t tell me. So I’d rather remove myself from the situation than to get more hurt than I am.

I don’t really feel like having another conversation with him about it. I already told him how i am in my friendships and there is not inbetween. He said he had different types of friends. But that don’t mean it is the same for me. He also said he doesn’t believen that the connection we had and the relationship we had can ever go from that to just friends. He says so much stuff. It’s really confusing lol.

Before you do anything, wait for 48 hours. If you still want to do it then do it.

Sag and gem are pretty much the same. Keep changing their minds lol 😆

Hahaha okay! But I still haven’t replied to what he said last night isn’t that weird to wait 48 hrs and then suddenly say something like this?

Ulgh I hate myself sometimes I’m OVERTHINKING all the time 😂

Hahahaha 🤣🤣 just keep it casual until 48 hours. Just observe observe and observe
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Yeah totally get that my Gem is the same she absolutely hates it if I ask again about the same thing she will say to me oh not this again lol talk to me about something different bring back the excitement etc, it's probably why she has felt the way she has lately but I wanted commitment from her to much and I should of been going with the flow but in my defence she did promise me that she wanted us to live together and have a future that is what messed us up.

Trouble I had was I came out of a long failing relationship I had with my ex of 8 years and we had children together are own place and security.

That is why I have found it so hard with the lack of commitment.

I get what you mean your on the fence of what to do because you kind of don't want to upset the whole contact but on the flip side you also want to know where you stand.

If you don't mind me asking when you are in contact what sort of things are being said between you guys.

Omg! I hate that too, because usually when we have spoken about stuff and I have let it go in my mind I don’t think it’s necessary to talk about it again because it has been solved. Haha.

I think Gemini’s just say what feels right in the moment. At that moment she made the promise I really think that’s what she meant. The problem is our emotions change 24/7. Something about a person could turn us off completely out of the blue. Just give her space and go with the flow that would be the best thing. But also state on time that is eventually what you would like and want. So she knows.

Our conversations are quite casual. Just about daily stuff and work etc. It’s just the same as when we were in a relationship only now he is not really as affectionate. I can see and feel that he is really focused on not being too invested because it makes it harder for him to move on. And yes this is true I am really on the fence cause we are actually cool now but i can’t shake the feeling that it’s just for the mean time and I might get too invested and really believe we are building a friendship and end up really hurt. I just don’t want to get hurt anymore he has really hurt me with this out of the blue break up.

Yes, I believe your right and I have had to learn this about my partner.

I think I turnt her off to be honest not just me but things that have happened out of our control this is why I am now going with the flow and not putting emotional behaviour into the situations what ever she wants to do I will go with it and respect it.

I have learnt to wait for her to approach me on the emotional side.

We are still planning and booking things together and we do go out different places when we are free everyother weekend we run together alot as well.

It's making me think he isn't as affectionate towards you as he was before I would question why because is there somewhere he is getting advice from could be.

Maybe something that was said I can kind of see how he is feeling but not exactly explain it I think it is a front he's putting on. Just got a feeling.

Yes. With me being a gemini if someone gets too emotional too fast it scares me off. Because i like to be free and not tied down. This happened exactly with me and my ex. He was so emotional and all lovey dovey in the beginning it was too much for me. With gemini's we need time to warm up to you and see if you are really in it for the long haul. Then slowely we will start opening up to you..

Hmm I did think about that he is talking and taking advice from other people maybe like his mom or friends. I know it's a front the last two times I saw the way he looks at me it hasn't changed. he still has feelings for me i know it and he has said it multiple times. He struggles with himself internally and I can't help him with that. The only thing i can do is remove myself from the situation.

Yeah tell him your removing your self for good and that he has made his decision on you guys and you hear him and that is final as you cannot afford to be messed around with and you won't put up with it set your boundaries I duno why but I'm 85% sure he will come running. I hate to admit it but it's true 🤣.

Thing is I have shown my gem that I am here for the long haul I bond with her children I have them for her when she goes kickboxing I take them up to bed get them to sleep etc I do all of this and more its just somethings she really struggles with she cannot get her head around somethings she hates my ex so she told me she struggles to bond with my children as she feels like she is doing my ex a favour by having the kids etc but it's not it's for me. I kind of understand but it's stupid really because I had abuse for her ex for 3-4 months at the start and I don't feel that way about her children I love them.

I don't come across emotional to her anymore just act normal not needy just got with the flow Gem has to come to you and I duno if she will or not but she's still here so that says something.

Yeah, i will be sending him a message in a min. Hahaha Why do you think that he will come back running? He is so set on that we will never get back together. So yeah it is what it is. I dont think it's necessary for me to delete or block him tho. What do you think?

Hmm and i think hearing your story there is more going on with your gemini. I myself love children and if i love my partner i will love his children as my own. I do think this is something you need to talk about. Do you know her other placements?

Yes I do she is

Sun - Gem

Moon - Virgo

Merc - Gem

Venus - Gem

The thing is alot has gone on she does not feel accepted into the family as my ex has been in the back ground constantly with some of my family members going around there house with my kids etc that has started to fizzle out the past 4 months.

She is brilliant with my kids do not get me wrong but she told me when we was arguing that she is struggling to want to bond because she hates their mother because she is so lazy and don't do anything for her kids etc.

I am always doing things for her though like her garden picking up things she has bought alot of things I think I have turnt her off because of the way I was and because of the way my family was.

I the only way I can reverse that if possible at all is to be fun I think.


Wow she is a real gemini. Hmm I think i wouldnt feel comfortable either if the ex is always in the background but in this instance that is the mother of your children. So if she thinks she can do it she should be honest about it.

I really think u need to sit her down and just say what you are telling me. Don't wait to get into an argument to say it. Just sit her down and say it in a positive way.
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It's obvious he's being selfish, isnt he?

He already checked out, in his head he knows he doesnt want a relationship anymore.

He's just dragging you along until he finds something to fully focus on. Like a new life or a new person.

I used to do this ages ago.

Like gemini, sags are usually wishy washy in a decision making process. But once we decides, it's usually final. He already decided not wanting a relationship with you. He just hasnt got his new life lined up yet, hence this behaviour.

Remove yourself from the situation and see what happens. Dont need to give ultimatum just remove yourself. Being friends with him will just hurt you.

You’re so right. He said he wants to be friends but it’s hard for him to see me too often because he will be thinking back about the old times and because he still has strong feelings for me he’s afraid he will want to go back to the relationship.

Couple of days after we broke up I just felt the decision he had made was an emotional one so we agreed to talk again and we did. During that talk it was like he regretted his decision and wanted to come back. He was saying stuff to see my reaction I guess? So i just said it’s all right better this way. Cant be with someone who keeps wanting me and then don’t

Just doesn’t make sense to me. After that conversation we were cool and decided to be friends. I noticed suddenly there were only slow replies like 5-6 hrs later. So I stopped talking altogether for like 4 days. Then suddenly he texted me: that he wanted to “ define our friendship”

So we had a conversation in person and I told him I can’t be friends with someone who doesn’t put in the same effort as I do. Cause when I see you as my friend you are really my friend there is not inbetween.

For him it was like yeah i have different kind of friends blabla and I all treat them differently.

Then he said if I would invite him to my birthday he would come? Which I obviously won’t but still why?

After that conversation where I told him i thinks he doesn’t put effort and he can’t expect me to talk with him if the replies in a conversation take 5-6 hrs everytime. Whiles when we were in a relationship he was always texting me within 10 mins.



Since that conversation we had I’ve seen a whole 360 in his behaviour he replies fast and really talk to me. But I’m guarded. I really don’t understand him.

What do you think I should do best? Should I just stop the contact all completely or should I tell him that we need to stop all the contact? I just feel that when invest too much in “our friendship” he will really hurt me once he finds someone else to focus on.

Sorry for my long reply wanted to give you some more insight.

So he has changed and now you're uncertain? 😝

I cant make up my mind. The part where he said he treats his friend differently etc could mean 2 things: he has compartementalized you into a friends with romance and wants no relationship or he's just playing games wanting some worship through drama. (Leo moon lol)

I think you need to have a conversation with him again and this time say it from the start it will be final.. what the hell does he wants and tell him you cant be friends with him. So he wants you in or out?

Being friends with him will just hurt you. He doesnt know what he wants and will keep on dragging you until he does. And it probably could take weeks, months or years lol. Even if he dates around im certain he wont tell you.

Yeah that’s really true! I’m really an overthinker.? I really don’t feel like having a third conversation about the same thing lol. I love him but he needs to work on himself I don’t feel like it benefits us at this moment to still be in contact.

We did speak last night about just casual stuff but today I woke up and thought about the way we are now is not working for both of us he says he needs to work on himself and move on and I want to focus on moving on I can’t do that when still in contact.

First i thought i wanted to stay in contact but now the more I think about it and the insight i get from you all I think it’s best we don’t have any contact for now. And I’m really sure that if he decides to date around he won’t tell me. So I’d rather remove myself from the situation than to get more hurt than I am.

I don’t really feel like having another conversation with him about it. I already told him how i am in my friendships and there is not inbetween. He said he had different types of friends. But that don’t mean it is the same for me. He also said he doesn’t believen that the connection we had and the relationship we had can ever go from that to just friends. He says so much stuff. It’s really confusing lol.

Before you do anything, wait for 48 hours. If you still want to do it then do it.

Sag and gem are pretty much the same. Keep changing their minds lol 😆

Hahaha okay! But I still haven’t replied to what he said last night isn’t that weird to wait 48 hrs and then suddenly say something like this?

Ulgh I hate myself sometimes I’m OVERTHINKING all the time 😂

Hahahaha 🤣🤣 just keep it casual until 48 hours. Just observe observe and observe

So I should reply? Omg I can’t stand myself 😭 but I still think I will say it

What was the last message was all about? I think i missed it.

If it is just casual, just reply casually. If it's about your relationship then yeah better say it now instead of 48 hrs lol.. you'll be the one who is wishy washy if you say different thing in 2 days from now 😆
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Haha it was just a casual message. It wasn't about our relationship tho. We spoke about our relationship on tuesday in person.

I just replied to him. Haha. But will talk about it in 48 hrs
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Yeah totally get that my Gem is the same she absolutely hates it if I ask again about the same thing she will say to me oh not this again lol talk to me about something different bring back the excitement etc, it's probably why she has felt the way she has lately but I wanted commitment from her to much and I should of been going with the flow but in my defence she did promise me that she wanted us to live together and have a future that is what messed us up.

Trouble I had was I came out of a long failing relationship I had with my ex of 8 years and we had children together are own place and security.

That is why I have found it so hard with the lack of commitment.

I get what you mean your on the fence of what to do because you kind of don't want to upset the whole contact but on the flip side you also want to know where you stand.

If you don't mind me asking when you are in contact what sort of things are being said between you guys.

Omg! I hate that too, because usually when we have spoken about stuff and I have let it go in my mind I don’t think it’s necessary to talk about it again because it has been solved. Haha.

I think Gemini’s just say what feels right in the moment. At that moment she made the promise I really think that’s what she meant. The problem is our emotions change 24/7. Something about a person could turn us off completely out of the blue. Just give her space and go with the flow that would be the best thing. But also state on time that is eventually what you would like and want. So she knows.

Our conversations are quite casual. Just about daily stuff and work etc. It’s just the same as when we were in a relationship only now he is not really as affectionate. I can see and feel that he is really focused on not being too invested because it makes it harder for him to move on. And yes this is true I am really on the fence cause we are actually cool now but i can’t shake the feeling that it’s just for the mean time and I might get too invested and really believe we are building a friendship and end up really hurt. I just don’t want to get hurt anymore he has really hurt me with this out of the blue break up.

Yes, I believe your right and I have had to learn this about my partner.

I think I turnt her off to be honest not just me but things that have happened out of our control this is why I am now going with the flow and not putting emotional behaviour into the situations what ever she wants to do I will go with it and respect it.

I have learnt to wait for her to approach me on the emotional side.

We are still planning and booking things together and we do go out different places when we are free everyother weekend we run together alot as well.

It's making me think he isn't as affectionate towards you as he was before I would question why because is there somewhere he is getting advice from could be.

Maybe something that was said I can kind of see how he is feeling but not exactly explain it I think it is a front he's putting on. Just got a feeling.

Yes. With me being a gemini if someone gets too emotional too fast it scares me off. Because i like to be free and not tied down. This happened exactly with me and my ex. He was so emotional and all lovey dovey in the beginning it was too much for me. With gemini's we need time to warm up to you and see if you are really in it for the long haul. Then slowely we will start opening up to you..

Hmm I did think about that he is talking and taking advice from other people maybe like his mom or friends. I know it's a front the last two times I saw the way he looks at me it hasn't changed. he still has feelings for me i know it and he has said it multiple times. He struggles with himself internally and I can't help him with that. The only thing i can do is remove myself from the situation.

Yeah tell him your removing your self for good and that he has made his decision on you guys and you hear him and that is final as you cannot afford to be messed around with and you won't put up with it set your boundaries I duno why but I'm 85% sure he will come running. I hate to admit it but it's true 🤣.

Thing is I have shown my gem that I am here for the long haul I bond with her children I have them for her when she goes kickboxing I take them up to bed get them to sleep etc I do all of this and more its just somethings she really struggles with she cannot get her head around somethings she hates my ex so she told me she struggles to bond with my children as she feels like she is doing my ex a favour by having the kids etc but it's not it's for me. I kind of understand but it's stupid really because I had abuse for her ex for 3-4 months at the start and I don't feel that way about her children I love them.

I don't come across emotional to her anymore just act normal not needy just got with the flow Gem has to come to you and I duno if she will or not but she's still here so that says something.

Yeah, i will be sending him a message in a min. Hahaha Why do you think that he will come back running? He is so set on that we will never get back together. So yeah it is what it is. I dont think it's necessary for me to delete or block him tho. What do you think?

Hmm and i think hearing your story there is more going on with your gemini. I myself love children and if i love my partner i will love his children as my own. I do think this is something you need to talk about. Do you know her other placements?

Yes I do she is

Sun - Gem

Moon - Virgo

Merc - Gem

Venus - Gem

The thing is alot has gone on she does not feel accepted into the family as my ex has been in the back ground constantly with some of my family members going around there house with my kids etc that has started to fizzle out the past 4 months.

She is brilliant with my kids do not get me wrong but she told me when we was arguing that she is struggling to want to bond because she hates their mother because she is so lazy and don't do anything for her kids etc.

I am always doing things for her though like her garden picking up things she has bought alot of things I think I have turnt her off because of the way I was and because of the way my family was.

I the only way I can reverse that if possible at all is to be fun I think.

Wow she is a real gemini. Hmm I think i wouldnt feel comfortable either if the ex is always in the background but in this instance that is the mother of your children. So if she thinks she can do it she should be honest about it.

I really think u need to sit her down and just say what you are telling me. Don't wait to get into an argument to say it. Just sit her down and say it in a positive way.

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I don't really know how to approach her because everytime I do she says (not this again)

The ex has stopped bothering now I have even spoken to some of my family about this to try and get them to listen to me now there reply is we have known her for 8 years and you have children together it's very difficult for us to just cut her off we are our own people we can do what we want and it shouldn't affect you two if she loves you she that won't matter. Makes it very hard for me so I have taken time out from my family to work on us as its unfair.

I am just trying to make things work out because I do really want her.

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It's obvious he's being selfish, isnt he?

He already checked out, in his head he knows he doesnt want a relationship anymore.

He's just dragging you along until he finds something to fully focus on. Like a new life or a new person.

I used to do this ages ago.

Like gemini, sags are usually wishy washy in a decision making process. But once we decides, it's usually final. He already decided not wanting a relationship with you. He just hasnt got his new life lined up yet, hence this behaviour.

Remove yourself from the situation and see what happens. Dont need to give ultimatum just remove yourself. Being friends with him will just hurt you.

You’re so right. He said he wants to be friends but it’s hard for him to see me too often because he will be thinking back about the old times and because he still has strong feelings for me he’s afraid he will want to go back to the relationship.

Couple of days after we broke up I just felt the decision he had made was an emotional one so we agreed to talk again and we did. During that talk it was like he regretted his decision and wanted to come back. He was saying stuff to see my reaction I guess? So i just said it’s all right better this way. Cant be with someone who keeps wanting me and then don’t

Just doesn’t make sense to me. After that conversation we were cool and decided to be friends. I noticed suddenly there were only slow replies like 5-6 hrs later. So I stopped talking altogether for like 4 days. Then suddenly he texted me: that he wanted to “ define our friendship”

So we had a conversation in person and I told him I can’t be friends with someone who doesn’t put in the same effort as I do. Cause when I see you as my friend you are really my friend there is not inbetween.

For him it was like yeah i have different kind of friends blabla and I all treat them differently.

Then he said if I would invite him to my birthday he would come? Which I obviously won’t but still why?

After that conversation where I told him i thinks he doesn’t put effort and he can’t expect me to talk with him if the replies in a conversation take 5-6 hrs everytime. Whiles when we were in a relationship he was always texting me within 10 mins.



Since that conversation we had I’ve seen a whole 360 in his behaviour he replies fast and really talk to me. But I’m guarded. I really don’t understand him.

What do you think I should do best? Should I just stop the contact all completely or should I tell him that we need to stop all the contact? I just feel that when invest too much in “our friendship” he will really hurt me once he finds someone else to focus on.

Sorry for my long reply wanted to give you some more insight.

So he has changed and now you're uncertain? 😝

I cant make up my mind. The part where he said he treats his friend differently etc could mean 2 things: he has compartementalized you into a friends with romance and wants no relationship or he's just playing games wanting some worship through drama. (Leo moon lol)

I think you need to have a conversation with him again and this time say it from the start it will be final.. what the hell does he wants and tell him you cant be friends with him. So he wants you in or out?

Being friends with him will just hurt you. He doesnt know what he wants and will keep on dragging you until he does. And it probably could take weeks, months or years lol. Even if he dates around im certain he wont tell you.

Yeah that’s really true! I’m really an overthinker.? I really don’t feel like having a third conversation about the same thing lol. I love him but he needs to work on himself I don’t feel like it benefits us at this moment to still be in contact.

We did speak last night about just casual stuff but today I woke up and thought about the way we are now is not working for both of us he says he needs to work on himself and move on and I want to focus on moving on I can’t do that when still in contact.

First i thought i wanted to stay in contact but now the more I think about it and the insight i get from you all I think it’s best we don’t have any contact for now. And I’m really sure that if he decides to date around he won’t tell me. So I’d rather remove myself from the situation than to get more hurt than I am.

I don’t really feel like having another conversation with him about it. I already told him how i am in my friendships and there is not inbetween. He said he had different types of friends. But that don’t mean it is the same for me. He also said he doesn’t believen that the connection we had and the relationship we had can ever go from that to just friends. He says so much stuff. It’s really confusing lol.

Before you do anything, wait for 48 hours. If you still want to do it then do it.

Sag and gem are pretty much the same. Keep changing their minds lol 😆

Hahaha okay! But I still haven’t replied to what he said last night isn’t that weird to wait 48 hrs and then suddenly say something like this?

Ulgh I hate myself sometimes I’m OVERTHINKING all the time 😂

Hahahaha 🤣🤣 just keep it casual until 48 hours. Just observe observe and observe

So I should reply? Omg I can’t stand myself 😭 but I still think I will say it

What was the last message was all about? I think i missed it.

If it is just casual, just reply casually. If it's about your relationship then yeah better say it now instead of 48 hrs lol.. you'll be the one who is wishy washy if you say different thing in 2 days from now 😆
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I agree say it now tell him how you feel and that you ain't messing around.
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Ok, I'm a Sag with Leo moon...and yeah, usually I also seek for an escape if it is getting too serious, cause I don't want to be caged or limited, or whatsoever, especially now when I am focused on my purpose aka career and don't have time for something serious...because it is expected that you must devote a lot of your time for that girl. I cannot do that now...then, I would usually use verbal fight situations as an excuse to exit unless it bothers me for a longer time, and it's draining. If you are still doing the same thing or arguing over the same thing from time to time, then I would disappear also, or if you disrespect me and things like that. So if I notice the same patterns all over, without an issue being resolved on your part (if it was up to you), then it's just enough for me, and usually, I never go back when I go cold, just no desire if I'm already fed enough by that point.

If that's how you felt then I would assume you are likely upfront with women about not wanting anything serious, therefor you don't end up in relationships? That would only make sense to me of that's how you really feel about wanting your freedom. So if OP's dude is the same, he should have been upfront instead of roping her into a relationship knowing he can't hack that life style .

That's one of our weakness tbh. I only realised this recently lol. We like to insert ourselves into things without thinking the consequences or how it would make the other person feel.

Just.. "i feel like this.." so im gonna do it. I like you now, i want you now, i'll think later.. we'll see what happened etc.. not realizing that there's another person with feelings and emotions on the other end.

Will be defensive if we're called out of leading people on, eventhough it's true that it is leading people on.. lol

Been so guilty of this, now I know better 😆

I didn't realize this was a thing for you guys :/ I love Saggies, never dated one though. If this is common of ya'll, I'ma protect my little heart and maybe file Sag away with the Libras, haha.

Oh nooo dont you dare put us in the same category as libra 😆

The differences is intention. We have no intention of hurting you, we just act without thinking the consequences. Then afterwards we'll be like "holy shit.. i didnt think this through"

Libra knows the consequences from the very beginning, they think it through and still do it anyway 🤪🤣

We are OK being alone. The unevolved libra cant be alone, they need other people's attention to make them feel special 😆

Shit, I'm sorry. The way it sounded was not how I intended it to. I don't think you guys are at all like Libra's, I love you Saggies, I just meant maybe I should file Sag away as a sign I shouldn't date if you guys are prone to do that. I'm to sensitive and clingy. haha

LOVE LOVE LOVE your last sentence. There is no truer statement than that!! And attention seeking or the need for constant attention is such an unattractive quality to me. Fuck Libra! (except all the cool Libra's I've come across here, you guys rule!)
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This is true about us this is where I have a lot of falling outs with my Gem as I do stuff without thinking and then realise oh dam and then I find myself always apologising for stupid ass stuff FML.

However I will say she has shaped me into a much better person and also more understanding before I do stuff I am actually finding myself thinking about it.

I have her to thank for that 100% I won't tell her that right now though 😅🤣 as she will say see I told you, you could learn alot from me 😅.
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Ok, I'm a Sag with Leo moon...and yeah, usually I also seek for an escape if it is getting too serious, cause I don't want to be caged or limited, or whatsoever, especially now when I am focused on my purpose aka career and don't have time for something serious...because it is expected that you must devote a lot of your time for that girl. I cannot do that now...then, I would usually use verbal fight situations as an excuse to exit unless it bothers me for a longer time, and it's draining. If you are still doing the same thing or arguing over the same thing from time to time, then I would disappear also, or if you disrespect me and things like that. So if I notice the same patterns all over, without an issue being resolved on your part (if it was up to you), then it's just enough for me, and usually, I never go back when I go cold, just no desire if I'm already fed enough by that point.

If that's how you felt then I would assume you are likely upfront with women about not wanting anything serious, therefor you don't end up in relationships? That would only make sense to me of that's how you really feel about wanting your freedom. So if OP's dude is the same, he should have been upfront instead of roping her into a relationship knowing he can't hack that life style .

That's one of our weakness tbh. I only realised this recently lol. We like to insert ourselves into things without thinking the consequences or how it would make the other person feel.

Just.. "i feel like this.." so im gonna do it. I like you now, i want you now, i'll think later.. we'll see what happened etc.. not realizing that there's another person with feelings and emotions on the other end.

Will be defensive if we're called out of leading people on, eventhough it's true that it is leading people on.. lol

Been so guilty of this, now I know better 😆

I didn't realize this was a thing for you guys :/ I love Saggies, never dated one though. If this is common of ya'll, I'ma protect my little heart and maybe file Sag away with the Libras, haha.

Oh nooo dont you dare put us in the same category as libra 😆

The differences is intention. We have no intention of hurting you, we just act without thinking the consequences. Then afterwards we'll be like "holy shit.. i didnt think this through"

Libra knows the consequences from the very beginning, they think it through and still do it anyway 🤪🤣

We are OK being alone. The unevolved libra cant be alone, they need other people's attention to make them feel special 😆

Shit, I'm sorry. The way it sounded was not how I intended it to. I don't think you guys are at all like Libra's, I love you Saggies, I just meant maybe I should file Sag away as a sign I shouldn't date if you guys are prone to do that. I'm to sensitive and clingy. haha

LOVE LOVE LOVE your last sentence. There is no truer statement than that!! And attention seeking or the need for constant attention is such an unattractive quality to me. Fuck Libra! (except all the cool Libra's I've come across here, you guys rule!)

This is true about us this is where I have a lot of falling outs with my Gem as I do stuff without thinking and then realise oh dam and then I find myself always apologising for stupid ass stuff FML.

However I will say she has shaped me into a much better person and also more understanding before I do stuff I am actually finding myself thinking about it.

I have her to thank for that 100% I won't tell her that right now though 😅🤣 as she will say see I told you, you could learn alot from me 😅.
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Hahaha. this is so funny my sag told me the same thing that I made him a better person. But he told me after we broke up he never told me that when we were together.
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