Taurus men say things out of anger ?

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So my Taurus guy and I have hit a rough patch. Apparently he's got a lot on him with work and his 2 young kids. It seems as if he hasn't been able to connect with me in the way he had hoped to. It's kind of caused us to clash a bit. I take responsibility for some but he's done some things to me that just aren't right and never takes ownership. I'm the first relationship he's been in in a while too.

Anyways , we're together but not in the relationship way at the moment. He says he still loves spending time with me and being there. He wants to still be very present in my life and want me to still sleep over and keep our routine of cuddling together as we fall asleep. One thing he always does when we're laying together is kiss me on my forehead. The first night we spent together after somewhat taking a step back in the relationship , I swear he was all over me and I was expecting him not to be. I was expecting him to be distant and platonic. But he was still acting the same as when we're in a relationship. Laying in my lap , laying close to me like under me pretty much , wanted me to rub his arms like I always do and he kissed me on my forehead soooooo many times. So at one point I asked him " are we really friends ? " He was like " what do you want us to be ? " I wanted to say in a relationship but I wanted to take things slow so things can be done right this time I guess so I said " can we date ? " And he said I'm ok with that.

My question is , we did have a little disputes , mind you he's been stressed with work due to his high position and the kids , he doesn't really have time to himself to just breathe and I admit I felt some way when I didn't hear from him all day and said something about it , I wasn't mean tho. I took full responsibility for it but , do you think maybe he was just so stressed and annoyed that he said something he didn't mean for us to not be in a relationship at the moment ? Bc days later he still calls me just the same , texts me just the same , acts just the same ... actually , things seem to be good like as if we were doing perfectly fine.

I'm just wondering if Taurus men say things that they don't mean when they're angry or annoyed bc he's still acting like my boyfriend. I'm even spending the night with him later. We have a few things we need to work on and apparently he likes to be showered with love and I don't mind doing that but I'm not used to bc it wasn't accepted in past relationships and I also don't want to make him feel smothered but he says he doesn't mind.

Thoughts ?
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My thoughts are your doing to much for someone who isn’t meeting you have way.


Well , he does a lot. I didn't put EVERYTHING in the post. He thinks of me enough to buy me things when we goes shopping. And when we're together he treats me great. It's just that when we're apart , I feel like he's so busy with everything going on that the only time he thinks of me is at the end of the day when things start to wind down. I'm glad to be on his mind at all honestly
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Im concerned that you guys havent like defined what the relationship is. You are giving a lot of your self and not getting as much in return.

You need to ask him what you guys are. And be honest with what YOU want.

Dont let him have his cake and eat it too...


You're right , and I know. I just feel like he's the type that when there's a argument in the relationship he wants out. He has been single for a long time but no relationship is perfect and arguments happen. Bc the moment we've made up all is cool. He gives too but I'm more available and have less responsibilities than him. That's what he tries to explain to me.
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Posted by Boots1313

Im concerned that you guys havent like defined what the relationship is. You are giving a lot of your self and not getting as much in return.

You need to ask him what you guys are. And be honest with what YOU want.

Dont let him have his cake and eat it too...


Is a label that much in return though lol?
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I wonder the same. He is not traditional I'm assuming. Idk. He feels the connection isn't there but I don't know if he's being truthful bc his actions with me say otherwise so idk. Like we talk everyday throughout the day and every night. I've never been so confused
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As a taurus rising yes I say things and later apologize for it. I'm dating a Taurus who does the same but it is never so painful that I hurt him badly or vice versa. I am in a bad mood when I don't have my wishes respected about my alone time. I give a lot of myself to the rest of the world and all I ask for is peace and quiet.

I do not think this is a huge problem just something you have to speak up about but also be understanding of who he is. When my Taurus need alone time he had a habit of doing so without saying so it was not until I called him on it that he now vocalizes it and we go our separate ways and come back recharged.

As for determining the status of your relationship you know when a man is leading you on and if it has not been longer than 3 months of dating then just enjoy eachnother for now and worry about a label later.
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My thoughts are your doing to much for someone who isn’t meeting you have way.


Well , he does a lot. I didn't put EVERYTHING in the post. He thinks of me enough to buy me things when we goes shopping. And when we're together he treats me great. It's just that when we're apart , I feel like he's so busy with everything going on that the only time he thinks of me is at the end of the day when things start to wind down. I'm glad to be on his mind at all honestly
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Don’t be glad for crumbs.

You want the security of a relationship. He wants to have the perks of your love without committing.

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Maybe try dating without the sex and see if the real intimacy is still there and if you can grow it.

Sex is easy.

Sleeping over is easy.


I can do the no sex thing. He doesn't mind not having sex. He's just like me where it's not really a priority. I'm still going to want to sleep over tho and at least cuddle. I've gotten to spoiled with that. There's been nights we don't even have sex and just lay there and fall asleep together
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Posted by Boots1313

Im concerned that you guys havent like defined what the relationship is. You are giving a lot of your self and not getting as much in return.

You need to ask him what you guys are. And be honest with what YOU want.

Dont let him have his cake and eat it too...


Is a label that much in return though lol?


I wonder the same. He is not traditional I'm assuming. Idk. He feels the connection isn't there but I don't know if he's being truthful bc his actions with me say otherwise so idk. Like we talk everyday throughout the day and every night. I've never been so confused


Do you act crazy or fuck up his stability?
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Only time I trip is when he does things that aren't cool to do to your girlfriend and him not take ownership of it.
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As a taurus rising yes I say things and later apologize for it. I'm dating a Taurus who does the same but it is never so painful that I hurt him badly or vice versa. I am in a bad mood when I don't have my wishes respected about my alone time. I give a lot of myself to the rest of the world and all I ask for is peace and quiet.

I do not think this is a huge problem just something you have to speak up about but also be understanding of who he is. When my Taurus need alone time he had a habit of doing so without saying so it was not until I called him on it that he now vocalizes it and we go our separate ways and come back recharged.

As for determining the status of your relationship you know when a man is leading you on and if it has not been longer than 3 months of dating then just enjoy eachnother for now and worry about a label later.


I love that !! Yeah I'll speak to him on that. He's not really the best with communicating , it's like with certain things he doesn't like confrontation. But for the sake of both of our sanity he needs to communicate when he needs that space instead of just going mia and me thinking it's me or something. Thank you for sharing that with me.

I definitely don't feel like he's leading me on tho. I actually trust him and I know he's not seeing anyone else. He's probably the only man I've been with that I can say that about. Just like you said I feel right now we're just riding things out to see what can happen then when the time is right he'll take that step. Bc sadly it's not my call it's his , why does it have to be like that. Men just can be so much more closed up then women
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My thoughts are your doing to much for someone who isn’t meeting you have way.


Well , he does a lot. I didn't put EVERYTHING in the post. He thinks of me enough to buy me things when we goes shopping. And when we're together he treats me great. It's just that when we're apart , I feel like he's so busy with everything going on that the only time he thinks of me is at the end of the day when things start to wind down. I'm glad to be on his mind at all honestly


Don’t be glad for crumbs.

You want the security of a relationship. He wants to have the perks of your love without committing.

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I'm going to talk to him about that later. Just want to make sure. Bc I don't want that to be the case with us , I don't feel like it is but at the same time I don't want us to move like that if we both want more later on.
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Im concerned that you guys havent like defined what the relationship is. You are giving a lot of your self and not getting as much in return.

You need to ask him what you guys are. And be honest with what YOU want.

Dont let him have his cake and eat it too...


Is a label that much in return though lol?
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Yes

Becasue he can turn around one day and say "we are just dating...im allowed to talk to other people" its not exclusive enough.
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Im concerned that you guys havent like defined what the relationship is. You are giving a lot of your self and not getting as much in return.

You need to ask him what you guys are. And be honest with what YOU want.

Dont let him have his cake and eat it too...


You're right , and I know. I just feel like he's the type that when there's a argument in the relationship he wants out. He has been single for a long time but no relationship is perfect and arguments happen. Bc the moment we've made up all is cool. He gives too but I'm more available and have less responsibilities than him. That's what he tries to explain to me.
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As long as you relaize it and you are okay with it then fine. But you dont seem completely fine...alas why you are here.

I as a Taurus with Gemini mercury, tend to say things out of anger and spite. I do usually apologize after. I dont just move on lI always give a reason.

He does sound like he cares about you, but something is definitely keeping him at a distance. He does sound super busy...maybe he just dosnt have time to give to a full blown committed relationship.

You just have to make sure you are okay with "dating" for awhile....

Taurus' do like to be "friends" for awhile before committment ...so hope is still there if you play it cool.
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Im concerned that you guys havent like defined what the relationship is. You are giving a lot of your self and not getting as much in return.

You need to ask him what you guys are. And be honest with what YOU want.

Dont let him have his cake and eat it too...


Is a label that much in return though lol?

Yes

Becasue he can turn around one day and say "we are just dating...im allowed to talk to other people" its not exclusive enough.
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Yea even tho I know I'm the only one , that's the reason why I was " pressed " for the title if you will. He doesn't have time to do nothing like that behind my back tho. I do know that much. I'll just take a step back on doing certain things until I have that title back
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My thoughts are your doing to much for someone who isn’t meeting you have way.


Well , he does a lot. I didn't put EVERYTHING in the post. He thinks of me enough to buy me things when we goes shopping. And when we're together he treats me great. It's just that when we're apart , I feel like he's so busy with everything going on that the only time he thinks of me is at the end of the day when things start to wind down. I'm glad to be on his mind at all honestly


Don’t be glad for crumbs.

You want the security of a relationship. He wants to have the perks of your love without committing.




I'm going to talk to him about that later. Just want to make sure. Bc I don't want that to be the case with us , I don't feel like it is but at the same time I don't want us to move like that if we both want more later on.
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How long have you been seeing each other?
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Im concerned that you guys havent like defined what the relationship is. You are giving a lot of your self and not getting as much in return.

You need to ask him what you guys are. And be honest with what YOU want.

Dont let him have his cake and eat it too...


You're right , and I know. I just feel like he's the type that when there's a argument in the relationship he wants out. He has been single for a long time but no relationship is perfect and arguments happen. Bc the moment we've made up all is cool. He gives too but I'm more available and have less responsibilities than him. That's what he tries to explain to me.

As long as you relaize it and you are okay with it then fine. But you dont seem completely fine...alas why you are here.

I as a Taurus with Gemini mercury, tend to say things out of anger and spite. I do usually apologize after. I dont just move on lI always give a reason.

He does sound like he cares about you, but something is definitely keeping him at a distance. He does sound super busy...maybe he just dosnt have time to give to a full blown committed relationship.

You just have to make sure you are okay with "dating" for awhile....

Taurus' do like to be "friends" for awhile before committment ...so hope is still there if you play it cool.
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I'm still hurt bc this is all still fresh. He's my first relationship in 8 years so I did go through a bit of a panic initially. Still coping but it helps to know that this is something they tend to do so I know how to go about it.

I'm ok with dating for a while so we can kind of rewind and do things differently and maybe that will help. Thank you so much tho that was sooo helpful
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My thoughts are your doing to much for someone who isn’t meeting you have way.


Well , he does a lot. I didn't put EVERYTHING in the post. He thinks of me enough to buy me things when we goes shopping. And when we're together he treats me great. It's just that when we're apart , I feel like he's so busy with everything going on that the only time he thinks of me is at the end of the day when things start to wind down. I'm glad to be on his mind at all honestly


Don’t be glad for crumbs.

You want the security of a relationship. He wants to have the perks of your love without committing.




I'm going to talk to him about that later. Just want to make sure. Bc I don't want that to be the case with us , I don't feel like it is but at the same time I don't want us to move like that if we both want more later on.


How long have you been seeing each other?
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He's actually my high school crush , so I've known him for about 8 years. We've been seeing each other since last July
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Personally, as a taurus, I will go away/be silent when angry as to NOT say what I dont mean or hurt someone. We tend to be careful and thus taurus are known for not getting angry~ often unless they're pushed past limit. Most taurus will not say what they dont mean, so maybe what he said is true, maybe hes just a crap person and you deserve better tbh


Well as a Taurus myself when I'm angry you get a mix of the 2 lol. I might reveal something I've been bottling up for a while or say something I will later regret. I feel like he's damaged tho. But won't really open up to me about it. From his mom not really showing him much attention when he was a child to being in bad relationships and his dad not being around etc
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My thoughts are your doing to much for someone who isn’t meeting you have way.


Well , he does a lot. I didn't put EVERYTHING in the post. He thinks of me enough to buy me things when we goes shopping. And when we're together he treats me great. It's just that when we're apart , I feel like he's so busy with everything going on that the only time he thinks of me is at the end of the day when things start to wind down. I'm glad to be on his mind at all honestly


Don’t be glad for crumbs.

You want the security of a relationship. He wants to have the perks of your love without committing.




I'm going to talk to him about that later. Just want to make sure. Bc I don't want that to be the case with us , I don't feel like it is but at the same time I don't want us to move like that if we both want more later on.


How long have you been seeing each other?



He's actually my high school crush , so I've known him for about 8 years. We've been seeing each other since last July
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Oh you guys are younger...you made it sound like you were in your 40s lol. 😂
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Posted by tauruss77

Personally, as a taurus, I will go away/be silent when angry as to NOT say what I dont mean or hurt someone. We tend to be careful and thus taurus are known for not getting angry~ often unless they're pushed past limit. Most taurus will not say what they dont mean, so maybe what he said is true, maybe hes just a crap person and you deserve better tbh


Well as a Taurus myself when I'm angry you get a mix of the 2 lol. I might reveal something I've been bottling up for a while or say something I will later regret. I feel like he's damaged tho. But won't really open up to me about it. From his mom not really showing him much attention when he was a child to being in bad relationships and his dad not being around etc
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Idk, is there a possibility you are making excuses for him?...think long and deep about it.

The truth and what you want is in yourself.

We taurus are good at being honest with ourselves...what is really going on?
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Posted by tauruss77

Personally, as a taurus, I will go away/be silent when angry as to NOT say what I dont mean or hurt someone. We tend to be careful and thus taurus are known for not getting angry~ often unless they're pushed past limit. Most taurus will not say what they dont mean, so maybe what he said is true, maybe hes just a crap person and you deserve better tbh


Well as a Taurus myself when I'm angry you get a mix of the 2 lol. I might reveal something I've been bottling up for a while or say something I will later regret. I feel like he's damaged tho. But won't really open up to me about it. From his mom not really showing him much attention when he was a child to being in bad relationships and his dad not being around etc


Idk, is there a possibility you are making excuses for him?...think long and deep about it.

The truth and what you want is in yourself.

We taurus are good at being honest with ourselves...what is really going on?
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I might be. Bc I stress out when it comes to who I'm seeing when things start to change. I'm just trying to see the bigger picture too tho bc I have been a bit selfish and requiring more when he already gives me attention. I just feel last sometimes. I know he has other priorities but he doesn't have to make me feel last all the time. But there's no excuse for him not taking ownership for the things he does that aren't right. It's like he has too much pride or is so comfortable from being single for so long that he just doesn't see anything wrong in what he might do. I make him aware everytime but when I confront him he just responds with sarcasm and insensitivity
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Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturns

If you’re having sex or just sharing a bed but having intimacy you’re not just friends.

In the past I have said things out of anger and taken them back. I try not to these days. You don’t really say why you think he reacted in anger though.

I’d say stick to your guns on wanting a relationship if that’s what you really want. I feel like being “friends” is just a loophole he could use if he wanted to. If he’s serious about you he will accept being in a relationship.


I'm going to let things cool off for a while then talk to him more about that bc no , we're not just friends and he knows this. It's like he's contradicting himself. I feel as though he's confused too. But this is why I said to him the other day that this just doesn't feel like just friends. I feel like he was angry and said out of annoyance Ave anger that he wanted to take a step back from the relationship. So I said if anything it feels more like dating and he was fine with that. But it's deeper. I don't want to pressure him tho and then cause him to be pushed away at the same time
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My thoughts are your doing to much for someone who isn’t meeting you have way.


Well , he does a lot. I didn't put EVERYTHING in the post. He thinks of me enough to buy me things when we goes shopping. And when we're together he treats me great. It's just that when we're apart , I feel like he's so busy with everything going on that the only time he thinks of me is at the end of the day when things start to wind down. I'm glad to be on his mind at all honestly


Don’t be glad for crumbs.

You want the security of a relationship. He wants to have the perks of your love without committing.




I'm going to talk to him about that later. Just want to make sure. Bc I don't want that to be the case with us , I don't feel like it is but at the same time I don't want us to move like that if we both want more later on.


How long have you been seeing each other?



He's actually my high school crush , so I've known him for about 8 years. We've been seeing each other since last July
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He's known you as a friend for 8 years and you've been dating for almost 9 months.

He knows who and what your about. He knows whether he sees a future with you.

So the fact he is taking 2 steps back and saying he doesn't want a relationship with you...well you should believe him and stop wasting your time there.

Sleeping in his bed every night isn't going to change his mind.

Also I call bs on him being too busy to date others based on him being too 'busy' to date/communicate with you in the manner you'd prefer.

Is he 'busy' because of work and his kids? Or is he 'busy' because he cycling through the tinder flavor of the week...

Him dodging the relationship title makes me think he wants to remain unshackled to pursue others while having you as the emotional/cuddle gf stand in until he finds 'the one'. Hope thats not the case...but thats where my mind goes when I read the situation you in.
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Im concerned that you guys havent like defined what the relationship is. You are giving a lot of your self and not getting as much in return.

You need to ask him what you guys are. And be honest with what YOU want.

Dont let him have his cake and eat it too...


Is a label that much in return though lol?

Yes

Becasue he can turn around one day and say "we are just dating...im allowed to talk to other people" its not exclusive enough.


Chuckles

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Lol it happens...

A lot ime
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My thoughts are your doing to much for someone who isn’t meeting you have way.


Well , he does a lot. I didn't put EVERYTHING in the post. He thinks of me enough to buy me things when we goes shopping. And when we're together he treats me great. It's just that when we're apart , I feel like he's so busy with everything going on that the only time he thinks of me is at the end of the day when things start to wind down. I'm glad to be on his mind at all honestly


Don’t be glad for crumbs.

You want the security of a relationship. He wants to have the perks of your love without committing.




I'm going to talk to him about that later. Just want to make sure. Bc I don't want that to be the case with us , I don't feel like it is but at the same time I don't want us to move like that if we both want more later on.


How long have you been seeing each other?



He's actually my high school crush , so I've known him for about 8 years. We've been seeing each other since last July


He's known you as a friend for 8 years and you've been dating for almost 9 months.

He knows who and what your about. He knows whether he sees a future with you.

So the fact he is taking 2 steps back and saying he doesn't want a relationship with you...well you should believe him and stop wasting your time there.

Sleeping in his bed every night isn't going to change his mind.

Also I call bs on him being too busy to date others based on him being too 'busy' to date/communicate with you in the manner you'd prefer.

Is he 'busy' because of work and his kids? Or is he 'busy' because he cycling through the tinder flavor of the week...

Him dodging the relationship title makes me think he wants to remain unshackled to pursue others while having you as the emotional/cuddle gf stand in until he finds 'the one'. Hope thats not the case...but thats where my mind goes when I read the situation you in.
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OP, im sorry. But i second this ^. I cant help but feel this maybe what's going on.

Then again i can be 100% wrong...i tend to err on the side of pessimism.
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My thoughts are your doing to much for someone who isn’t meeting you have way.


Well , he does a lot. I didn't put EVERYTHING in the post. He thinks of me enough to buy me things when we goes shopping. And when we're together he treats me great. It's just that when we're apart , I feel like he's so busy with everything going on that the only time he thinks of me is at the end of the day when things start to wind down. I'm glad to be on his mind at all honestly


Don’t be glad for crumbs.

You want the security of a relationship. He wants to have the perks of your love without committing.




I'm going to talk to him about that later. Just want to make sure. Bc I don't want that to be the case with us , I don't feel like it is but at the same time I don't want us to move like that if we both want more later on.


How long have you been seeing each other?



He's actually my high school crush , so I've known him for about 8 years. We've been seeing each other since last July


He's known you as a friend for 8 years and you've been dating for almost 9 months.

He knows who and what your about. He knows whether he sees a future with you.

So the fact he is taking 2 steps back and saying he doesn't want a relationship with you...well you should believe him and stop wasting your time there.

Sleeping in his bed every night isn't going to change his mind.

Also I call bs on him being too busy to date others based on him being too 'busy' to date/communicate with you in the manner you'd prefer.

Is he 'busy' because of work and his kids? Or is he 'busy' because he cycling through the tinder flavor of the week...

Him dodging the relationship title makes me think he wants to remain unshackled to pursue others while having you as the emotional/cuddle gf stand in until he finds 'the one'. Hope thats not the case...but thats where my mind goes when I read the situation you in.
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I also know that ppl he's had past relationships with he never speaks to again. He also made that clear at the beginning of this relationship. He isn't opposed to a relationship with me. He still wants to go out places and do things together etc. He just really has a lot on his plate. I know him well and he's not into dating site etc like most guys. He doesn't even have the setting on his phone for his texts message previews or alerts not to show on his phone so if I really wanted , I would be able to see if he's talking to other ppl. I'm not saying that me spending this amount of time with him would make him change his mind. He's making himself available to me on the days he doesn't have his kids and when he's off work. He also wouldn't have me around his kids so often to the point that they're developing love for me and tell me so.

I just feel like things just need to be calmed down a bit and I myself need to not show soooo much emotion bc I can get over the top instead of just biting my tongue like I should. That's the lesson I need to learn. Hopefully while I'm working on me he'll be working on him so that when the time is right we can have a go at things again. Bc I feel like if he wasn't really interested , he would have fallen off altogether as far as everything.
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My thoughts are your doing to much for someone who isn’t meeting you have way.


Well , he does a lot. I didn't put EVERYTHING in the post. He thinks of me enough to buy me things when we goes shopping. And when we're together he treats me great. It's just that when we're apart , I feel like he's so busy with everything going on that the only time he thinks of me is at the end of the day when things start to wind down. I'm glad to be on his mind at all honestly


Don’t be glad for crumbs.

You want the security of a relationship. He wants to have the perks of your love without committing.




I'm going to talk to him about that later. Just want to make sure. Bc I don't want that to be the case with us , I don't feel like it is but at the same time I don't want us to move like that if we both want more later on.


How long have you been seeing each other?



He's actually my high school crush , so I've known him for about 8 years. We've been seeing each other since last July


He's known you as a friend for 8 years and you've been dating for almost 9 months.

He knows who and what your about. He knows whether he sees a future with you.

So the fact he is taking 2 steps back and saying he doesn't want a relationship with you...well you should believe him and stop wasting your time there.

Sleeping in his bed every night isn't going to change his mind.

Also I call bs on him being too busy to date others based on him being too 'busy' to date/communicate with you in the manner you'd prefer.

Is he 'busy' because of work and his kids? Or is he 'busy' because he cycling through the tinder flavor of the week...

Him dodging the relationship title makes me think he wants to remain unshackled to pursue others while having you as the emotional/cuddle gf stand in until he finds 'the one'. Hope thats not the case...but thats where my mind goes when I read the situation you in.


OP, im sorry. But i second this ^. I cant help but feel this maybe what's going on.

Then again i can be 100% wrong...i tend to err on the side of pessimism.
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It's just obvious signs I have seen that don't show this as being something going on. He's still very much so persistent with me. Things have cooled off from that dispute we had , like they do every time we have a dispute. Only time will tell
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after all this time you can't be honest and open with him. you sound scared you'll be told something you aren't prepared to hear.

if he wanted to be in a relationship with you he would be. either you're the issue or he just doesn't want to be in a relationship. regardless, the reality is the same.

you can try and gamble for time and hope that he will change his mind but it's a risk and you might lose.

as for saying things they don't mean? mine always says what he means.
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Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by goldrockett

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by goldrockett

Posted by LadyNeptune

My thoughts are your doing to much for someone who isn’t meeting you have way.


Well , he does a lot. I didn't put EVERYTHING in the post. He thinks of me enough to buy me things when we goes shopping. And when we're together he treats me great. It's just that when we're apart , I feel like he's so busy with everything going on that the only time he thinks of me is at the end of the day when things start to wind down. I'm glad to be on his mind at all honestly


Don’t be glad for crumbs.

You want the security of a relationship. He wants to have the perks of your love without committing.




I'm going to talk to him about that later. Just want to make sure. Bc I don't want that to be the case with us , I don't feel like it is but at the same time I don't want us to move like that if we both want more later on.


How long have you been seeing each other?



He's actually my high school crush , so I've known him for about 8 years. We've been seeing each other since last July


He's known you as a friend for 8 years and you've been dating for almost 9 months.

He knows who and what your about. He knows whether he sees a future with you.

So the fact he is taking 2 steps back and saying he doesn't want a relationship with you...well you should believe him and stop wasting your time there.

Sleeping in his bed every night isn't going to change his mind.

Also I call bs on him being too busy to date others based on him being too 'busy' to date/communicate with you in the manner you'd prefer.

Is he 'busy' because of work and his kids? Or is he 'busy' because he cycling through the tinder flavor of the week...

Him dodging the relationship title makes me think he wants to remain unshackled to pursue others while having you as the emotional/cuddle gf stand in until he finds 'the one'. Hope thats not the case...but thats where my mind goes when I read the situation you in.
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I agree here. I can see there is nothing anyone can say to the OP to help her turn the light bulb on 🤦
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Posted by sweetpea2977

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Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by goldrockett

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by goldrockett

Posted by LadyNeptune

My thoughts are your doing to much for someone who isn’t meeting you have way.


Well , he does a lot. I didn't put EVERYTHING in the post. He thinks of me enough to buy me things when we goes shopping. And when we're together he treats me great. It's just that when we're apart , I feel like he's so busy with everything going on that the only time he thinks of me is at the end of the day when things start to wind down. I'm glad to be on his mind at all honestly


Don’t be glad for crumbs.

You want the security of a relationship. He wants to have the perks of your love without committing.




I'm going to talk to him about that later. Just want to make sure. Bc I don't want that to be the case with us , I don't feel like it is but at the same time I don't want us to move like that if we both want more later on.


How long have you been seeing each other?



He's actually my high school crush , so I've known him for about 8 years. We've been seeing each other since last July


He's known you as a friend for 8 years and you've been dating for almost 9 months.

He knows who and what your about. He knows whether he sees a future with you.

So the fact he is taking 2 steps back and saying he doesn't want a relationship with you...well you should believe him and stop wasting your time there.

Sleeping in his bed every night isn't going to change his mind.

Also I call bs on him being too busy to date others based on him being too 'busy' to date/communicate with you in the manner you'd prefer.

Is he 'busy' because of work and his kids? Or is he 'busy' because he cycling through the tinder flavor of the week...

Him dodging the relationship title makes me think he wants to remain unshackled to pursue others while having you as the emotional/cuddle gf stand in until he finds 'the one'. Hope thats not the case...but thats where my mind goes when I read the situation you in.


I agree here. I can see there is nothing anyone can say to the OP to help her turn the light bulb on 🤦
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Hey, don't be so hard on her... She's just being a stubborn Taurus. You know how that is
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Posted by sweetpea2977

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by goldrockett

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by goldrockett

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by goldrockett

Posted by LadyNeptune

My thoughts are your doing to much for someone who isn’t meeting you have way.


Well , he does a lot. I didn't put EVERYTHING in the post. He thinks of me enough to buy me things when we goes shopping. And when we're together he treats me great. It's just that when we're apart , I feel like he's so busy with everything going on that the only time he thinks of me is at the end of the day when things start to wind down. I'm glad to be on his mind at all honestly


Don’t be glad for crumbs.

You want the security of a relationship. He wants to have the perks of your love without committing.




I'm going to talk to him about that later. Just want to make sure. Bc I don't want that to be the case with us , I don't feel like it is but at the same time I don't want us to move like that if we both want more later on.


How long have you been seeing each other?



He's actually my high school crush , so I've known him for about 8 years. We've been seeing each other since last July


He's known you as a friend for 8 years and you've been dating for almost 9 months.

He knows who and what your about. He knows whether he sees a future with you.

So the fact he is taking 2 steps back and saying he doesn't want a relationship with you...well you should believe him and stop wasting your time there.

Sleeping in his bed every night isn't going to change his mind.

Also I call bs on him being too busy to date others based on him being too 'busy' to date/communicate with you in the manner you'd prefer.

Is he 'busy' because of work and his kids? Or is he 'busy' because he cycling through the tinder flavor of the week...

Him dodging the relationship title makes me think he wants to remain unshackled to pursue others while having you as the emotional/cuddle gf stand in until he finds 'the one'. Hope thats not the case...but thats where my mind goes when I read the situation you in.


I agree here. I can see there is nothing anyone can say to the OP to help her turn the light bulb on 🤦


Hey, don't be so hard on her... She's just being a stubborn Taurus. You know how that is
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Thanks for understanding that. It's not easy. It's only easier for ppl to say looking on the outside in
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"I also know that ppl he's had past relationships with he never speaks to again. He also made that clear at the beginning of this relationship"

If you remember how he said it, in what context.. you'll figure out what he really means.

Honestly, this reminded me of Taurus ex bf when he told me how he doesn't deserve love, which was totally uninvited though, the one thing he said that actually got me into him fast! I hope he's not telling you this to make you stay and stick around even when he is being indecisive. Made it clear you know if you're gone, you're gone forever to him .. You know better!
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Posted by TxOgal

"I also know that ppl he's had past relationships with he never speaks to again. He also made that clear at the beginning of this relationship"

If you remember how he said it, in what context.. you'll figure out what he really means.

Honestly, this reminded me of Taurus ex bf when he told me how he doesn't deserve love, which was totally uninvited though, the one thing he said that actually got me into him fast! I hope he's not telling you this to make you stay and stick around even when he is being indecisive. Made it clear you know if you're gone, you're gone forever to him .. You know better!


I wish I knew. I'm so deep in my emotions right now idk what to think. I just feel like he's holding back. He won't give up completely but he won't initiate. But I haven't exactly given him the chance to either. That's what I want to try my hardest to be strong enough to do. After seeing him today , as hard as it's going to be , I'm going to stop initiating anything and see if he will. I guess that will let me know how he feels ? Idk. It's extremely hard right now tho.
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Posted by goldrockett

Posted by TxOgal

"I also know that ppl he's had past relationships with he never speaks to again. He also made that clear at the beginning of this relationship"

If you remember how he said it, in what context.. you'll figure out what he really means.

Honestly, this reminded me of Taurus ex bf when he told me how he doesn't deserve love, which was totally uninvited though, the one thing he said that actually got me into him fast! I hope he's not telling you this to make you stay and stick around even when he is being indecisive. Made it clear you know if you're gone, you're gone forever to him .. You know better!


I wish I knew. I'm so deep in my emotions right now idk what to think. I just feel like he's holding back. He won't give up completely but he won't initiate. But I haven't exactly given him the chance to either. That's what I want to try my hardest to be strong enough to do. After seeing him today , as hard as it's going to be , I'm going to stop initiating anything and see if he will. I guess that will let me know how he feels ? Idk. It's extremely hard right now tho.
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instead of playing mind games, why not just have an open and frank discussion? that seems a lot easier to me.
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Posted by TxOgal

"I also know that ppl he's had past relationships with he never speaks to again. He also made that clear at the beginning of this relationship"

If you remember how he said it, in what context.. you'll figure out what he really means.

Honestly, this reminded me of Taurus ex bf when he told me how he doesn't deserve love, which was totally uninvited though, the one thing he said that actually got me into him fast! I hope he's not telling you this to make you stay and stick around even when he is being indecisive. Made it clear you know if you're gone, you're gone forever to him .. You know better!


I wish I knew. I'm so deep in my emotions right now idk what to think. I just feel like he's holding back. He won't give up completely but he won't initiate. But I haven't exactly given him the chance to either. That's what I want to try my hardest to be strong enough to do. After seeing him today , as hard as it's going to be , I'm going to stop initiating anything and see if he will. I guess that will let me know how he feels ? Idk. It's extremely hard right now tho.


instead of playing mind games, why not just have an open and frank discussion? that seems a lot easier to me.
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That's what I want to do. When things calm down. It's still fresh. I've written down the things I want to say. Just waiting a bit
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Posted by goldrockett

Posted by jeane

Posted by goldrockett

Posted by TxOgal

"I also know that ppl he's had past relationships with he never speaks to again. He also made that clear at the beginning of this relationship"

If you remember how he said it, in what context.. you'll figure out what he really means.

Honestly, this reminded me of Taurus ex bf when he told me how he doesn't deserve love, which was totally uninvited though, the one thing he said that actually got me into him fast! I hope he's not telling you this to make you stay and stick around even when he is being indecisive. Made it clear you know if you're gone, you're gone forever to him .. You know better!


I wish I knew. I'm so deep in my emotions right now idk what to think. I just feel like he's holding back. He won't give up completely but he won't initiate. But I haven't exactly given him the chance to either. That's what I want to try my hardest to be strong enough to do. After seeing him today , as hard as it's going to be , I'm going to stop initiating anything and see if he will. I guess that will let me know how he feels ? Idk. It's extremely hard right now tho.


instead of playing mind games, why not just have an open and frank discussion? that seems a lot easier to me.


That's what I want to do. When things calm down. It's still fresh. I've written down the things I want to say. Just waiting a bit
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i think that's the best course of action. i can't imagine any instance where a power play is the right tactic.

plus, those sorts of things are lost on men. they are straight shooters. look how they interact between each other and replicate that. be direct about what you want, where you see the problem is, what you think the solution is. men are more likely to respond to that rather than being hot and cold. he won't know why you are behaving this way just that you've changed.
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I also know that ppl he's had past relationships with he never speaks to again.

Thats not true. He speaks to at least one of his ex's, the mother of his young kids.



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I know him well and he's not into dating site etc like most guys. He doesn't even have the setting on his phone for his texts message previews or alerts not to show on his phone so if I really wanted , I would be able to see if he's talking to other ppl.

Thats not how those dating apps work. You message directly on the app. And its easy enough to turn off notifications for an app. Also he could have dating apps on his tablet instead of his phone. Ijs don't rule it out.



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I myself need to not show soooo much emotion bc I can get over the top instead of just biting my tongue like I should. That's the lesson I need to learn. Hopefully while I'm working on me he'll be working on him so that when the time is right we can have a go at things again.

Your afraid to speak your mind and communicate how your feeling and what you want. Thats not a healthy relationship. How can you give him pussy and sleep in his arms at night but feel scared to speak your mind? I could not.

Sorry but the only one making compromises here is you. He isn't changing shit about himself for you cause he has no motivation too.



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I feel like if he wasn't really interested , he would have fallen off altogether as far as everything.
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If he was interested, he'd lock you down. Instead he ended the relationship.



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Posted by goldrockett

I also know that ppl he's had past relationships with he never speaks to again.

Thats not true. He speaks to at least one of his ex's, the mother of his young kids.



Posted by goldrockett

I know him well and he's not into dating site etc like most guys. He doesn't even have the setting on his phone for his texts message previews or alerts not to show on his phone so if I really wanted , I would be able to see if he's talking to other ppl.

Thats not how those dating apps work. You message directly on the app. And its easy enough to turn off notifications for an app. Also he could have dating apps on his tablet instead of his phone. Ijs don't rule it out.



Posted by goldrockett

I myself need to not show soooo much emotion bc I can get over the top instead of just biting my tongue like I should. That's the lesson I need to learn. Hopefully while I'm working on me he'll be working on him so that when the time is right we can have a go at things again.

Your afraid to speak your mind and communicate how your feeling and what you want. Thats not a healthy relationship. How can you give him pussy and sleep in his arms at night but feel scared to speak your mind? I could not.

Sorry but the only one making compromises here is you. He isn't changing shit about himself for you cause he has no motivation too.



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I feel like if he wasn't really interested , he would have fallen off altogether as far as everything.

If he was interested, he'd lock you down. Instead he ended the relationship.



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Ok
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Tauruses are lazy and their only objective in life is to never do anything out of anger, emotion or pressure.

They will literally manage everybody around them to stay in a safe routine and not take them out of their comfort zone. If you're dating a taurus, that's what you are doing; being managed. I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing, but be aware of it.

A taurus will never let you do anything that might annoy them or put pressure on them to do anything, and before you know it you'll have been coralled into a little safe spot (for them) and working for them.

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Posted by goldrockett

Posted by LadyNeptune

My thoughts are your doing to much for someone who isn’t meeting you have way.


Well , he does a lot. I didn't put EVERYTHING in the post. He thinks of me enough to buy me things when we goes shopping. And when we're together he treats me great. It's just that when we're apart , I feel like he's so busy with everything going on that the only time he thinks of me is at the end of the day when things start to wind down. I'm glad to be on his mind at all honestly


Don’t be glad for crumbs.

You want the security of a relationship. He wants to have the perks of your love without committing.




I'm going to talk to him about that later. Just want to make sure. Bc I don't want that to be the case with us , I don't feel like it is but at the same time I don't want us to move like that if we both want more later on.


How long have you been seeing each other?



He's actually my high school crush , so I've known him for about 8 years. We've been seeing each other since last July
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Since last July? That's too long. You need to have the talk.