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How much do you value your job? Cause when this gets messy, as your the newer hire so it’s your ass on the line… not his.

My boss can’t afford to fire me right now. We work for different companies, so I don’t think anyones ass is on the line in that regard.
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Well that’s good I guess. Maybe since your tight with security make sure those ‘secret spots’ really are secret and not on camera. Have some self preservation so you don’t get murdered by wifee or have the grainy footage of your encounters circling the internet for eternity.

No dick is worth ruining your life over.
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Okay

How do you know about his birth details?

I was mortified when he mentioned my middle name, so to make myself feel in control of the situation I was able to find his name via his company website and look up his birthday online.

Oh right

Creepin on each other

🥴

Tbh I thought he was a scorpio and I was going to be super excited if I was right. Imagine my surprise when I discovered he was a Sagittarius 🙄Now that I think about it, Ted Bundy was a Sagittarius. Should I be scared?
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Scared my ass! Let me fix this for you! 😆

"Imagine my surprise when I discovered he was a Sagittarius 🙄Now that I think about it, Ted Bundy was a Sagittarius. Should I be excited?"
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Scared my ass! Let me fix this for you! 😆"Imagine my surprise when I discovered he was a Sagittarius 🙄Now that I think about it, Ted Bundy was a Sagittarius. Should I be excited?"

Idk, I wouldn’t want to die the way Ted Bundy killed his victims. I want mine to be fast so I can’t feel the pain or process what is happening.
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Posted by MonaLisa26 She is fearless Scorpio! Breaking the rules rather die than be bored.

Is that a Scorpio thing? I’ve spent so much time wondering what’s wrong with me, I didn’t realize the answer could be this easy 🤣🤣

Life is not as complicated as people make it seems to be.

You can struggle your whole life to change who you are or you can BE who you are.

One Jew asked Rabe if he can eat pork and Rabe said no.

Then Jew saw Rabe eating pork and questioned him to which Rabe answered - because I am not asking anybody.

If you think there IS something wrong with you - read Esther Perel. You will be at peace with yourself.
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“Esther Perel is a Belgian psychotherapist of Polish-Jewish descent who has explored the tension between the need for security and the need for freedom in human relationships”

Which book?
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I wasn't going to post this because I don't want to do a Walter Mitty. I have genuinely been with at least two married women. One was in an open relationship or so she should, the other had a husband who is incapable.

It depends on the dynamic. I fail to see the problem. What I find really sad is how women are demonised for this, but men aren't.

It's the concept of "the mistress" and how the other woman is bad.

...this guy though, he seems unhinged and stalkerish.
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I wasn't going to post this because I don't want to do a Walter Mitty. I have genuinely been with at least two married women. One was in an open relationship or so she should, the other had a husband who is incapable.

It depends on the dynamic. I fail to see the problem. What I find really sad is how women are demonised for this, but men aren't.

I think there’s more of a stigma around women being side pieces because a lot of times the side chick gets attached to the married man and takes measures to ruin his marriage so she can “have him”.

I’m not in that group though; I have a history of getting turned off when my married lovers inform me they are getting divorced 🤮 #1 way to ruin my fun lmao
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I wasn't going to post this because I don't want to do a Walter Mitty. I have genuinely been with at least two married women. One was in an open relationship or so she should, the other had a husband who is incapable.

It depends on the dynamic. I fail to see the problem. What I find really sad is how women are demonised for this, but men aren't.


It’s not always so simple as you mentioned. There’s one thing about a married person pursuing others and another about single people pursuing married people - male or female. Many marriages are miserable or open or spouses ok with infidelity. It’s not always so cut & dry. It’s really quite dangerous if you’re messing with someone whose spouse or significant other has no clue. I know this from a friend who always had sides & really didn’t care about what her husband thought. She had some interesting experiences when the significant other found out. Me I’ve never gone outside my marriage or relationships. However did have a married guy actively pursue me when I was single & well we had history. He wouldn’t even call it his marriage, but called it his situation 🙄😳. I honestly don’t get it when people go outside the relationship. Why have it then?
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I think its the ultimate betrayal for a woman to have sex with a man that is married, if he’s not in an open rship that is

I don’t know how it can be justified tbh. The fallout can be devastating for the wife and kids


It's hard to resist too when pussy is being presented on a platter. Most men don't get these types of opportunities often.
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I wasn't going to post this because I don't want to do a Walter Mitty. I have genuinely been with at least two married women. One was in an open relationship or so she should, the other had a husband who is incapable.

It depends on the dynamic. I fail to see the problem. What I find really sad is how women are demonised for this, but men aren't.

It’s not always so simple as you mentioned. There’s one thing about a married person pursuing others and another about single people pursuing married people - male or female. Many marriages are miserable or open or spouses ok with infidelity. It’s not always so cut & dry. It’s really quite dangerous if you’re messing with someone whose spouse or significant other has no clue. I know this from a friend who always had sides & really didn’t care about what her husband thought. She had some interesting experiences when the significant other found out. Me I’ve never gone outside my marriage or relationships. However did have a married guy actively pursue me when I was single & well we had history. He wouldn’t even call it his marriage, but called it his situation 🙄😳. I honestly don’t get it when people go outside the relationship. Why have it then?
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“His situation”

WoW
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I think its the ultimate betrayal for a woman to have sex with a man that is married, if he’s not in an open rship that is

I don’t know how it can be justified tbh. The fallout can be devastating for the wife and kids

It's hard to resist too when pussy is being presented on a platter. Most men don't get these types of opportunities often.
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And

“My wife doesn’t understand me”

🥴
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I think what people forget is women are able to detach and there are men who treat every fuck as a relationship. In short I'm saying gender clichés are exactly that.

I don’t mean to generalize again, but this is why I don’t like single men. They get attached and since I’m already in a relationship I get scared for the safety of my partner.

I have gotten death wishes directed at me from my married affair partners, but at the end of the day I know they’d never harm me or leave their wives; they have too much to lose. It’s always the ones with the most to lose who end up wishing I was dead because I take up too much space in their minds. Strange phenomenon.

Then again others may wish I was dead too, they just don’t explicitly tell me haha
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Posted by alexscaries

I wasn't going to post this because I don't want to do a Walter Mitty. I have genuinely been with at least two married women. One was in an open relationship or so she should, the other had a husband who is incapable.

It depends on the dynamic. I fail to see the problem. What I find really sad is how women are demonised for this, but men aren't.


Lol where have you been? Men are absolutely demonized for cheating, especially on this site.

Op is not cheating because she is in an open relationship. But we don't know if her chosen victim has the same setup in his marriage. So yes, if he cheats that's on him. He's the shit person in this scenario not her.

Well it is a bit cringe to target married men I'll give y'all that. But she didn't make vows of commitment and fidelity... he did.
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I wasn't going to post this because I don't want to do a Walter Mitty. I have genuinely been with at least two married women. One was in an open relationship or so she should, the other had a husband who is incapable.

It depends on the dynamic. I fail to see the problem. What I find really sad is how women are demonised for this, but men aren't.

It’s not always so simple as you mentioned. There’s one thing about a married person pursuing others and another about single people pursuing married people - male or female. Many marriages are miserable or open or spouses ok with infidelity. It’s not always so cut & dry. It’s really quite dangerous if you’re messing with someone whose spouse or significant other has no clue. I know this from a friend who always had sides & really didn’t care about what her husband thought. She had some interesting experiences when the significant other found out. Me I’ve never gone outside my marriage or relationships. However did have a married guy actively pursue me when I was single & well we had history. He wouldn’t even call it his marriage, but called it his situation 🙄😳. I honestly don’t get it when people go outside the relationship. Why have it then?

“His situation”

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Yep! He was miserable in it & stayed for the kids, to keep the family together. Was actively looking for the next one while in the relationship. Kinda like Gemitati.. oh & she had started the cheating, and he was seriously hurt about it, but stayed. Such a cluster for years!!!! Craziness. Just get out!
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I think its the ultimate betrayal for a woman to have sex with a man that is married, if he’s not in an open rship that is

I don’t know how it can be justified tbh. The fallout can be devastating for the wife and kids

It's hard to resist too when pussy is being presented on a platter. Most men don't get these types of opportunities often.

And

“My wife doesn’t understand me”

🥴
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Well this is when the man is pursuing lol There's really no need for him to lie about anything, since she is pursuing.

All he has to do is show up 😅
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I think its the ultimate betrayal for a woman to have sex with a man that is married, if he’s not in an open rship that is

I don’t know how it can be justified tbh. The fallout can be devastating for the wife and kids

It's hard to resist too when pussy is being presented on a platter. Most men don't get these types of opportunities often.

And

“My wife doesn’t understand me”

🥴

Well this is when the man is pursuing lol There's really no need for him to lie about anything, since she is pursuing.

All he has to do is show up 😅
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And keep breathing Lol
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Wish awoman would eat me in office lift.........

Are you hot?

Apparently so...idk.

Meet me on the lift Monday at 9AM 👅

Thank you kindly, but one is happily taken.

Never worked in office Op, you just gave me funny idea for a date though.

Like you’re honesty also

Lot of women like men with wedding rings when they out or looking for casual.

I’m not married but my mate(sagi) used to say he got more offers after he got married just because of a ring on finger.

Ironically some single men I know tried this and it worked......

Personal I would recommend finding a single hot guy and just asking him for no strings hot steamy sex.

There is loads of them.
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Yes there are plenty of single blokes out there without wives and children in tow.

Seems a more considerate option.
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It’s true what they saying…

People in love triangles are getting shot and killed out in these streets.

Shyt, people dying over fender benders

Look at somebody wrong and they just shoot you.

Earth is ghetto

Ya the caliber of people I am hooking up with aren’t the types to tell their wives any identifying details about me. They’re also usually high profile enough that their wives wouldn’t go that route.

Social class accounts for a lot when it comes to how affairs are handled. I’m fucking with the class that cuts contact and goes to therapy if they get caught.
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Posted by borednbeautiful … I don’t wanna be the other woman. I want to be number 1!

I want to be the best someone’s ever had, but I don’t want to be their #1 interest. For me, I am #1 to myself; I put my needs/desires over any other humans desires. I prefer people with the same mindset (or people who have a different human they prioritize) so I don’t have to feel guilty about the imbalance (I wouldn’t stick around long enough to experience that guilt, however; I can tell where I’ll fall on the totem pole based on how someone approaches me, and if I’m going to be the top of the totem pole, I disqualify you from my interest).
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It’s true what they saying…

People in love triangles are getting shot and killed out in these streets.

Shyt, people dying over fender benders

Look at somebody wrong and they just shoot you.

Earth is ghetto

Ya the caliber of people I am hooking up with aren’t the types to tell their wives any identifying details about me. They’re also usually high profile enough that their wives wouldn’t go that route.

Social class accounts for a lot when it comes to how affairs are handled. I’m fucking with the class that cuts contact and goes to therapy if they get caught.
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High profile people still murder, they just don’t get their hands dirty. Murder for hire. And if she’s mad enough/if his insurance policy is high enough it might be a 2 for 1 deal.
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It’s true what they saying…

People in love triangles are getting shot and killed out in these streets.

Shyt, people dying over fender benders

Look at somebody wrong and they just shoot you.

Earth is ghetto

Ya the caliber of people I am hooking up with aren’t the types to tell their wives any identifying details about me. They’re also usually high profile enough that their wives wouldn’t go that route.

Social class accounts for a lot when it comes to how affairs are handled. I’m fucking with the class that cuts contact and goes to therapy if they get caught.
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Hmmm I know someone whose significant other looked at phone records & found her phone number & then her. Then started harassing her on line ( because she had a business). Calling with threatening messages etc. found her husbands # & called him and outed her. The guy she had the affair with never said a word about her, her name etc. apparently he must have done this before 😳😳😳😳

They were not low class darling.. you just never know what people might do & how crazy someone might be.
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Wow. When cheating and thottery have been normalized, you know the world has gone to shit.

Actually, in ancient times it was normal for upper class men to have “concubines”, which in todays world is the equivalent of a mistress. Polyamory spans centuries; religious institutions have just brainwashed generations of people to think it’s abnormal.
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Wow. When cheating and thottery have been normalized, you know the world has gone to shit.

Actually, in ancient times it was normal for upper class men to have “concubines”, which in todays world is the equivalent of a mistress. Polyamory spans centuries; religious institutions have just brainwashed generations of people to think it’s abnormal.
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I guess it’s okay if the wife is into poly? Otherwise it may not be okay. Some wives don’t want their husbands and father of their children to have a mistress whilst she’s at home looking after their kids. Also in ancient times, women were prob treated badly. Hopefully we’ve moved forward since then....
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Wow. When cheating and thottery have been normalized, you know the world has gone to shit.

Actually, in ancient times it was normal for upper class men to have “concubines”, which in todays world is the equivalent of a mistress. Polyamory spans centuries; religious institutions have just brainwashed generations of people to think it’s abnormal.
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LOL, OK. Whatever you want to classify it as.
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You are going to have sex with a married man? 😱

Not my vows 🤷‍♀️ Besides, I’m planning to keep it casual/physical, not an emotional entanglement.

That’s cool, I suppose. How would you feel if someone slept with your husband?

I think I would still say no to that. It can be bad karma, if you even believe in that.

She’s only 26 and hasn’t had her Saturn return yet. If she don’t believe in karma, it’s only a matter of time that she will. 😉
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She’s always chasing unavailable dick, it’s what gets her off. Her man doesn’t satisfy her.
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She’s always chasing unavailable dick, it’s what gets her off. Her man doesn’t satisfy her.

3 assumptions were made here. 0 were correct.

Here’s what I do get off on: People making these assumptions about me and sharing them with each other, but never directly addressing me or asking about my interests.

The less you really know about me due to your assumptions and gossip, the more empowered I feel 🙃
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It’s true what they saying…

People in love triangles are getting shot and killed out in these streets.

Shyt, people dying over fender benders

Look at somebody wrong and they just shoot you.

Earth is ghetto

Ya the caliber of people I am hooking up with aren’t the types to tell their wives any identifying details about me. They’re also usually high profile enough that their wives wouldn’t go that route.

Social class accounts for a lot when it comes to how affairs are handled. I’m fucking with the class that cuts contact and goes to therapy if they get caught.

High profile people still murder, they just don’t get their hands dirty. Murder for hire. And if she’s mad enough/if his insurance policy is high enough it might be a 2 for 1 deal.
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Didn’t a world class bicyclist lover get murdered by wife recently. https://www.the-sun.com/news/5587996/kaitlin-amstrong-colin-strickland-moriah-wilson-christine-update/amp/

💁
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Wow. When cheating and thottery have been normalized, you know the world has gone to shit.

Actually, in ancient times it was normal for upper class men to have “concubines”, which in todays world is the equivalent of a mistress. Polyamory spans centuries; religious institutions have just brainwashed generations of people to think it’s abnormal.
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In those times, wives didn’t have much of a choice. This was normalised until recently and it wasn’t exclusive to the upper class either.
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Posted by WhorpioActually, in ancient times it was normal for upper class men to have “concubines”, which in todays world is the equivalent of a mistress. Polyamory spans centuries; religious institutions have just brainwashed generations of people to think it’s abnormal.

In those times, wives didn’t have much of a choice. This was normalised until recently and it wasn’t exclusive to the upper class either.
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I think people should question why it wasn’t re-normalized until recently. And I also believe people should question why they are monogamous, because the way I see it is we are conditioned from birth to only idealize two-person, closed relationships.

Imagine if we weren’t brainwashing children that way, however; imagine a world where we teach offspring it’s okay to be attracted to several people, that there should be no shame in their desires.

I do see how it could be hard to teach this, however, since children learn by relating new information to their perceived reality. So if they only have one mommy and daddy (who are still married to each other) it may be absurd to bring in new ideas about having several mommies and daddies lol.

Idk maybe just don’t teach children at all about romantic relationships until puberty. I don’t know if everyone in the US experienced this, but I know I can remember as early as kindergarten a teacher talking about the special relationship between a mom & a dad (it was in a book she was reading us).

Sorry this post is all over the place; I get going on one train of thought and then it leads to another.
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Posted by WhorpioActually, in ancient times it was normal for upper class men to have “concubines”, which in todays world is the equivalent of a mistress. Polyamory spans centuries; religious institutions have just brainwashed generations of people to think it’s abnormal.

In those times, wives didn’t have much of a choice. This was normalised until recently and it wasn’t exclusive to the upper class either.

I think people should question why it wasn’t re-normalized until recently. And I also believe people should question why they are monogamous, because the way I see it is we are conditioned from birth to only idealize two-person, closed relationships.

Imagine if we weren’t brainwashing children that way, however; imagine a world where we teach offspring it’s okay to be attracted to several people, that there should be no shame in their desires.

I do see how it could be hard to teach this, however, since children learn by relating new information to their perceived reality. So if they only have one mommy and daddy (who are still married to each other) it may be absurd to bring in new ideas about having several mommies and daddies lol.

Idk maybe just don’t teach children at all about romantic relationships until puberty. I don’t know if everyone in the US experienced this, but I know I can remember as early as kindergarten a teacher talking about the special relationship between a mom & a dad (it was in a book she was reading us).

Sorry this post is all over the place; I get going on one train of thought and then it leads to another.
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It’s important to teach children respect for others, boundaries etc

Also that it’s not okay to have sex with someone unless their partner is in agreement and that cheating is never okay.
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It’s important to teach children respect for others, boundaries etc

Also that it’s not okay to have sex with someone unless their partner is in agreement and that cheating is never okay.

I agree with your first statement about boundaries.

However, your second statement is regarding social constructs. I personally don’t want kids, but I’d be damned if I had kids that didn’t question these social constructs imposed by society.

Morality varies from person to person; it’s not a universal instinct uniformly ingrained into us.

Your morals value what you’ve been taught about monogamy your whole life. My morals value the nurturing of human instinct.

Y’all think it’s selfish for people to stray outside their “marriage” (again, another social construct that means absolutely nothing when we die), but I think it’s selfish to shame people who stray when they are merely acting out of instinct (different story if they are cheating just to hurt their partner; when you start acting in a way to intentionally hurt others, that’s morally unacceptable).
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Goodluck.

Finally, some positive vibes instead of manifesting Whorpio getting shot in a love triangle. We need more of this energy!
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I agree that no one should get shot because of a love triangle. It’s ridiculous. And hopefully that doesn’t happen to you. I think statistically speaking, it’s not very likely. I would not worry about that so much.

And I think people don’t want to give you encouragement because majority of people see it as a heinous act. Maybe keep it to yourself if you are going to do something like that. You have to be discreet about it. I still don’t approve personally, but it is your life and your choice.

I wish you good luck and I don’t wish anything bad to happen to you. I feel like you are not a bad person. There are worse things people do than being sexually “devious” in this life. However, majority of people see sexual cheating as very corrupt and bad business. That’s why I said, if you must do it- then keep it personal business.
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It’s important to teach children respect for others, boundaries etc

Also that it’s not okay to have sex with someone unless their partner is in agreement and that cheating is never okay.

I agree with your first statement about boundaries.

However, your second statement is regarding social constructs. I personally don’t want kids, but I’d be damned if I had kids that didn’t question these social constructs imposed by society.

Morality varies from person to person; it’s not a universal instinct uniformly ingrained into us.

Your morals value what you’ve been taught about monogamy your whole life. My morals value the nurturing of human instinct.

Y’all think it’s selfish for people to stray outside their “marriage” (again, another social construct that means absolutely nothing when we die), but I think it’s selfish to shame people who stray when they are merely acting out of instinct (different story if they are cheating just to hurt their partner; when you start acting in a way to intentionally hurt others, that’s morally unacceptable).
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I’m just going by what I’ve seen which is kids finding out their dads or mums have cheated and the fallout from that. It can screw up a child or teen. I know that’s due to conditioning but even so most kids deep down want their mum and dad to be faithful to each other ... rightly or wrongly?
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I’m just going by what I’ve seen which is kids finding out their dads or mums have cheated and the fallout from that. It can screw up a child or teen. I know that’s due to conditioning but even so most kids deep down want their mum and dad to be faithful to each other ... rightly or wrongly?

So that goes back to what I was saying about conditioning kids from a young age. Why do they want mom and dad to be faithful? It wouldn’t possibly be because what movies, TV, and books paint as “romance”, would it?

What if we instead taught them that mommy and daddy are both human, and humans instinctually are attracted to several people throughout their life times?
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I’m just going by what I’ve seen which is kids finding out their dads or mums have cheated and the fallout from that. It can screw up a child or teen. I know that’s due to conditioning but even so most kids deep down want their mum and dad to be faithful to each other ... rightly or wrongly?

So that goes back to what I was saying about conditioning kids from a young age. Why do they want mom and dad to be faithful? It wouldn’t possibly be because what movies, TV, and books paint as “romance”, would it?

What if we instead taught them that mommy and daddy are both human, and humans instinctually are attracted to several people throughout their life times?
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Maybe we don’t
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Posted by Whorpio So that goes back to what I was saying about conditioning kids from a young age. Why do they want mom and dad to be faithful? It wouldn’t possibly be because what movies, TV, and books paint as “romance”, would it?

What if we instead taught them that mommy and daddy are both human, and humans instinctually are attracted to several people throughout their life times?

Maybe we don’t
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Right, continue on the path we’ve currently been on so we continue to create false expectations and ideals. Perfect plan 👍
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Posted by Whorpio So that goes back to what I was saying about conditioning kids from a young age. Why do they want mom and dad to be faithful? It wouldn’t possibly be because what movies, TV, and books paint as “romance”, would it?

What if we instead taught them that mommy and daddy are both human, and humans instinctually are attracted to several people throughout their life times?

Maybe we don’t

Right, continue on the path we’ve currently been on so we continue to create false expectations and ideals. Perfect plan 👍
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Just realise that we’ve all got the choice to take as many partners as we choose but to be mindful of how it affects others ie wives and kids. I can’t see that changing. Children need to feel secure.

You and I are coming from different places...I’m a mum so it’s a whole different ball game. I also saw you write that your desires come above others and I don’t think that at all. I always try to consider others feelings

We are very different Scorpios 😃.

My friend was bringing home different men and her son was suffering. Her psycotherapist says to her “your love life has nothing to do with your children”. I totally agree...it’s hard enough growing up without the complication of involving them in your sex life
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It wouldn’t make for good parenting ... the kids would most likely be put on the back burner whilst mummy and daddy met up with several partners to get their desires fulfilled

Again, first statement is a personal opinion.

Secondly, I personally believe the more freedom people have, the less desire they have to stray (with the exception of a few outliers).

Lastly, I will ask you what is worse: instilling false expectations/ideals in children so they can be let down by the real world, or giving them realistic views on commitment and relationships so they are more prepared for what they experience in the grown world?
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It wouldn’t make for good parenting ... the kids would most likely be put on the back burner whilst mummy and daddy met up with several partners to get their desires fulfilled

Again, first statement is a personal opinion.

Secondly, I personally believe the more freedom people have, the less desire they have to stray (with the exception of a few outliers).

Lastly, I will ask you what is worse: instilling false expectations/ideals in children so they can be let down by the real world, or giving them realistic views on commitment and relationships so they are more prepared for what they experience in the grown world?
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Yes of course ... be honest and realistic but with consideration for others. I don’t think the me first and not consider other people’s feelings is a good thing to instill in children.
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Posted by WhorpioActually, in ancient times it was normal for upper class men to have “concubines”, which in todays world is the equivalent of a mistress. Polyamory spans centuries; religious institutions have just brainwashed generations of people to think it’s abnormal.

In those times, wives didn’t have much of a choice. This was normalised until recently and it wasn’t exclusive to the upper class either.

I think people should question why it wasn’t re-normalized until recently. And I also believe people should question why they are monogamous, because the way I see it is we are conditioned from birth to only idealize two-person, closed relationships.

Imagine if we weren’t brainwashing children that way, however; imagine a world where we teach offspring it’s okay to be attracted to several people, that there should be no shame in their desires.

I do see how it could be hard to teach this, however, since children learn by relating new information to their perceived reality. So if they only have one mommy and daddy (who are still married to each other) it may be absurd to bring in new ideas about having several mommies and daddies lol.

Idk maybe just don’t teach children at all about romantic relationships until puberty. I don’t know if everyone in the US experienced this, but I know I can remember as early as kindergarten a teacher talking about the special relationship between a mom & a dad (it was in a book she was reading us).

Sorry this post is all over the place; I get going on one train of thought and then it leads to another.
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I do agree that marriage has always been transactional. Families offer up their daughter to another family in return for a dowry in some cultures. And monogamy isn’t the only way.

I don’t think anyone is judging you for being in an open relationship but the fact you entertain married men in monogamous relationships.

As I said, in the past wives had no say in the matter. It was their husbands who were in open relationships not them. If they openly objected, their husbands would beat the shit out of them and her in-laws would scapegoat her as a bad wife and mother for speaking out against her husband to preserve the family’s reputation. The dynamic wasn’t how you made it sound, there was no equality. Men had free reign to do whatever the fuck they wanted without repercussions.

You and these married men who seek you out are not playing by the same rules as their wives. That’s the issue. You’re not going to claim responsibility because you’re doing what you want, it’s on these married men to act right. But sometimes just because you can do something, doesn’t mean you should.

You could easily have a no married men policy but you stated you’ve benefitted from them in the past or not fuck men who aren’t in open relationships at all.
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Posted by WhorpioActually, in ancient times it was normal for upper class men to have “concubines”, which in todays world is the equivalent of a mistress. Polyamory spans centuries; religious institutions have just brainwashed generations of people to think it’s abnormal.

In those times, wives didn’t have much of a choice. This was normalised until recently and it wasn’t exclusive to the upper class either.

I think people should question why it wasn’t re-normalized until recently. And I also believe people should question why they are monogamous, because the way I see it is we are conditioned from birth to only idealize two-person, closed relationships.

Imagine if we weren’t brainwashing children that way, however; imagine a world where we teach offspring it’s okay to be attracted to several people, that there should be no shame in their desires.

I do see how it could be hard to teach this, however, since children learn by relating new information to their perceived reality. So if they only have one mommy and daddy (who are still married to each other) it may be absurd to bring in new ideas about having several mommies and daddies lol.

Idk maybe just don’t teach children at all about romantic relationships until puberty. I don’t know if everyone in the US experienced this, but I know I can remember as early as kindergarten a teacher talking about the special relationship between a mom & a dad (it was in a book she was reading us).

Sorry this post is all over the place; I get going on one train of thought and then it leads to another.

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I do agree that marriage has always been transactional. Families offer up their daughter to another family in return for a dowry in some cultures. And monogamy isn’t the only way.

I don’t think anyone is judging you for being in an open relationship but the fact you entertain married men in monogamous relationships.

As I said, in the past wives had no say in the matter. It was their husbands who were in open relationships not them. If they openly objected, their husbands would beat the shit out of them and her in-laws would scapegoat her as a bad wife and mother for speaking out against her husband to preserve the family’s reputation. The dynamic wasn’t how you made it sound, there was no equality. Men had free reign to do whatever the fuck they wanted without repercussions.

You and these married men who seek you out are not playing by the same rules as their wives. That’s the issue. You’re not going to claim responsibility because you’re doing what you want, it’s on these married men to act right. But sometimes just because you can do something, doesn’t mean you should.

You could easily have a no married men policy but you stated you’ve benefitted from them in the past or not fuck men who aren’t in open relationships at all.
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And here you have it 👍👏

“You and these married men who seek you out are not playing by the same rules as their wives. That’s the issue. You’re not going to claim responsibility because you’re doing what you want, it’s on these married men to act right. But sometimes just because you can do something, doesn’t mean you should”