Yes GG, I know! Pls bear with me, and take time to go through, THE MATTER HAS REALLY GOTTEN to my nerves! Need some serious advice!
IS A VIRGO WOMAN UNFAITHFUL & SECRETIVE!—
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Posted by GG
C'mon, bro. Paragraphs!!!
This is dxp.
Exactly that!
I think I got to the second or third bit but I gave up. He's 30, been to university yet is unable to write in a grammatically correct fashion.
Next he'll be saying English isn't his first language. No excuse!
Although I did wonder if it might have been a better idea for Mr Pisces and Ms Virgo to get to know each other over a longer courtship.
It's not like they needed to rush into anything especially as they're both young ish and she was only in the second year of university.
He sounds rather fucked!
Of course not SingASong41!
But I understand it better and fluently in various accents. I had to explain and trying to connect some dots so ANYONE CAN HAVE A FULL PICTURE, and helping me with some advice or suggestions....pls take time out of you busy schedule SingASong41 to "process it"!
But I understand it better and fluently in various accents. I had to explain and trying to connect some dots so ANYONE CAN HAVE A FULL PICTURE, and helping me with some advice or suggestions....pls take time out of you busy schedule SingASong41 to "process it"!
Dear Hiccup,
Your wife recently gave birth to your child and all you're interested in is 'hunting down' two guys, for what purpose?
Perhaps your time might be better spent focusing on yourself, your work so you can provide for your family, and your wife and child.
Your wife is probably fucked off with your retarded attitude to pointless shit. Crap about photos being assigned or not assigned to numbers in phones. Photos of your wife with male friends. Expecting your wife to want to be friends with your ex girlfriend. Moaning about when and who you were or were not introduced to regarding family members.
Jesus Christ, man the fuck up and quit bitching. Typical passive aggressive, whining Pisces. I bet he's got a Scorp rising or something equally as controlling in his chart.
What's your culture Hiccup?
Your wife recently gave birth to your child and all you're interested in is 'hunting down' two guys, for what purpose?
Perhaps your time might be better spent focusing on yourself, your work so you can provide for your family, and your wife and child.
Your wife is probably fucked off with your retarded attitude to pointless shit. Crap about photos being assigned or not assigned to numbers in phones. Photos of your wife with male friends. Expecting your wife to want to be friends with your ex girlfriend. Moaning about when and who you were or were not introduced to regarding family members.
Jesus Christ, man the fuck up and quit bitching. Typical passive aggressive, whining Pisces. I bet he's got a Scorp rising or something equally as controlling in his chart.
What's your culture Hiccup?
You are absolutely right AgentP911, am not good at English, u said that. We live in Egypt.
Posted by AgentP911
Dear Hiccup,
Your wife recently gave birth to your child and all you're interested in is 'hunting down' two guys, for what purpose?
Perhaps your time might be better spent focusing on yourself, your work so you can provide for your family, and your wife and child.
Your wife is probably fucked off with your retarded attitude to pointless shit. Crap about photos being assigned or not assigned to numbers in phones. Photos of your wife with male friends. Expecting your wife to want to be friends with your ex girlfriend. Moaning about when and who you were or were not introduced to regarding family members.
Jesus Christ, man the fuck up and quit bitching. Typical passive aggressive, whining Pisces. I bet he's got a Scorp rising or something equally as controlling in his chart.
What's your culture Hiccup?
You make me laugh AgentP911! I admit when I met her she was still young, but we got married because of love and understanding! What am here for is to receive some opinions as to WHETHER I SHOULD OVERLOOKED THOSE ISSUES WITH HER, AND TRUST HER AGAIN, OR TO ADD VINEGAR INTO THIS EMOTIONAL BOILING ACID! I would love to believe you are a "woman with family", should I trust her? Because if u say I have been treetrunked, you may be right, but I decided to hold up because of her situation. But know that, TIME will fly, AND IF SHE STILL HAS EMOTIONAL CONNECTION TO THEM, that's the exactly point I would want to confront HEAD-ON! Got that AgentP911?
credibly dramatic to me. But anyway..
Posted by Hiccup
and live happily.
Yay, I love happy couples
Posted by Hiccup
I had to FIRMLY restrain myself from destroying her reputation which would also affect mine and our families as well.
Woah, that sounds like living happy. Does that attitude sound like love to you? You have to FIRMLY restrain yourself? Dude, gtfo.
Posted by Hiccup
on how stupid I was to go into destructive relationships with —SO, SO, SO and SO?? girls in the past, AND HOW AM HAPPY TO BE WITH HER NOW AND got engaged to her and marry her, all these were AIMED at giving her emotional security and eternal assurance of my love and devotion to her and seeing that I'm held with nothing from y past, and also influencing her to be also open about her past relationships, or just being HONEST AND SHOW TOTAL DEOTION to me as I do for her!!!!!!!
The bolded part sounds like manipulation to me. Eternal assurance of your love and devotion? Yet you start the OP with how hard it is for you to restrain yourself to be vindictive?. The "show total devotion" to me sounds like you only brought past relationships up to cater to her ego..because for one, poor you...these past relationships and you couldn't help it..and secondly, placing a high expectation on her off the bat. If I was her and you would keep blabbing about how you were in destructive relationships..a flag would come up in my mind. You are the common denominator in all your past relationships.
Posted by Hiccup
But most of the times she just laughed and seemed to falsely puzzled (in my eyes) about those stories, but never told anything about herclick to expand
^It might surprise you but there are people out there who don't need to slam ex partners to make their new partner feel cream of the crop.
Love stands the test of time you married her and barely courted her. That guy knows more about her than you! I think she just was excited that someone wanted to marry her but realistically you don't know the woman you marry.
Yes she is cheating on you and she gets mad when you NOTICE. Sounds like she doesn't take her vows seriously so put your foot down and tell her you will leave if she tree trunks you over!! You letting this girl get away with bs! virgos can fake a entire relationship if they want to and she is playing games with you.
Shouldn't have rushed marrying her now you have to clean up the mess.
Yes she is cheating on you and she gets mad when you NOTICE. Sounds like she doesn't take her vows seriously so put your foot down and tell her you will leave if she tree trunks you over!! You letting this girl get away with bs! virgos can fake a entire relationship if they want to and she is playing games with you.
Shouldn't have rushed marrying her now you have to clean up the mess.
me through the whatsapp incident. You just mentioned you saw messages..how did you see them? Do you check every correspondence she has?
The X Girlfriend incident...this woman who is your wife is almost a month from labor...do you think making friends with your ex girlfriends was the number one concern for her? I would find it very puzzling for you to suggest I make friends with your x girlfriends..considering you mention at the beginning how these were destructive relationships for you?! Something is rotten in Denmark. Your stories don't match.
Posted by Hiccup
WITH DOUBTFUL PICTURES about her and —C—?, and —??MP—? also.
^Doubtful? Is she just standing next to them..like..the way people do when they take photos?
Posted by Hiccup
and I would be happy to receive any suggestions from VIRGOANS themselves!!!
WELCOMING VIEWS!
We'll see about that..
Posted by Hiccup
OR TO ADD VINEGAR INTO THIS EMOTIONAL BOILING ACID!click to expand
*rolls eyes*
Posted by Octoberbaby91
Love stands the test of time you married her and barely courted her. That guy knows more about her than you! I think she just was excited that someone wanted to marry her but realistically you don't know the woman you marry.
Yes she is cheating on you and she gets mad when you NOTICE. Sounds like she doesn't take her vows seriously so put your foot down and tell her you will leave if she tree trunks you over!! You letting this girl get away with bs! virgos can fake a entire relationship if they want to and she is playing games with you.
Shouldn't have rushed marrying her now you have to clean up the mess.
You are transparent in your issues with Virgos..
Doesn't surprise me at all that you gloss over controlling behavior since it's second nature to Scorpios.
Here's the cliff notes:
You mentioned at the beginning that this woman is beautiful. You bring up your feelings again and again...while really not being in touch with this woman. You're mad insecure and controlling. I would run a mile from a man like you.
Clue for you: marrying someone for beauty = you don't get to bitch about not feeling any emotional connection.
I don't know if this woman is cheating on your or not but your behavior is toxic as hell.
Bringing drama constantly..while your wife is pregnant? Dude, really? Do you have any respect at all?
You mentioned at the beginning that this woman is beautiful. You bring up your feelings again and again...while really not being in touch with this woman. You're mad insecure and controlling. I would run a mile from a man like you.
Clue for you: marrying someone for beauty = you don't get to bitch about not feeling any emotional connection.
I don't know if this woman is cheating on your or not but your behavior is toxic as hell.
Bringing drama constantly..while your wife is pregnant? Dude, really? Do you have any respect at all?
I am mad curious about your chart. I have my guesses on your moon and what modality rules your chart.
You sound unlike any Pisces Man I ever met.
Go here: http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/natal<BR>
..and put your date of birth and time. You will see a table like:
Sun in..
Moon in..
Mercury in..
Paste that information here.
You sound unlike any Pisces Man I ever met.
Go here: http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/natal<BR>
..and put your date of birth and time. You will see a table like:
Sun in..
Moon in..
Mercury in..
Paste that information here.
Posted by GG
Damnata actually read all that. Bless her heart.
I actually want to help because dude seems to have anger issues and he might just go home and kill his wife over idiots who are convinced she is cheating.
At least let's analyze everything since there's no way any of us has any clue if she cheats or not.
Posted by CluelessCancer
I would seriously work on your communication skills. Hers and yours and try to build a foundation. She probably didn't mention those guys, cause she knows how Egyptian men are (Typically crazy) and probably doesn't want her freedom to be impinged on.
I don't know if she's cheating or not, but i do know she's not comfortable with communication with you...so you need to work on that.
Exactly.
Her behavior makes me raise an eyebrow too, don't get me wrong. But I think she is reacting to his behavior because we tend to mold/wrap around partners. I need more details where he doesnt just paint her in a negative light.
Posted by DamnataPosted by GG
Damnata actually read all that. Bless her heart.
I actually want to help because dude seems to have anger issues and he might just go home and kill his wife over idiots who are convinced she is cheating.
At least let's analyze everything since there's no way any of us has any clue if she cheats or not.click to expand
Stop trying to be a martyr, or think we should all be martyrs here. Nothing we say here is gonna make him do anything and you know it, ultimately he will do what he pleases, and rightly so. "Analyzing" is pointless here, dude doesnt need anyone to analyze or solve his situation, he wants to be understood by people he wrongly assumes have the same way of thinking as his wife (Virgos), just let him be.
Contribute to this topic in showing this dude how a different Virgo thinks, rather than just addressing me...
Or get back on your cross silently, Shaks (if you really want to let him be)
As far as "you know it"..no, I don't. There are things I picked up on here when talking to others and they have helped me. Why assume he can't get anything of value from here? Maybe some user posts resonate with him. I'm an optimist so that fact alone I think it disqualifies me from being a martyr but I can only hope and keep on buying materials for my cross.
Analyzing =/= martyrs.
Your assumption on me thinking people should be martyrs in this topic? Wrong, same as my assumption that whenever a topic on cheating comes up you make sure to have a passive aggresive dig at my posts. 😉. Or maybe I am right. The life of the martyr is never easy.
Or get back on your cross silently, Shaks (if you really want to let him be)
As far as "you know it"..no, I don't. There are things I picked up on here when talking to others and they have helped me. Why assume he can't get anything of value from here? Maybe some user posts resonate with him. I'm an optimist so that fact alone I think it disqualifies me from being a martyr but I can only hope and keep on buying materials for my cross.
Analyzing =/= martyrs.
Your assumption on me thinking people should be martyrs in this topic? Wrong, same as my assumption that whenever a topic on cheating comes up you make sure to have a passive aggresive dig at my posts. 😉. Or maybe I am right. The life of the martyr is never easy.
If you seriously believe this dude is going to apply or take seriously any of what we say here about his wife, then you're stupider than he is, sorry, your need to help others can blind you sometimes. Wake up.
Posted by Damnata
You sound incredibly dramatic to me. But anyway..
The bolded part sounds like manipulation to me. Eternal assurance of your love and devotion? Yet you start the OP with how hard it is for you to restrain yourself to be vindictive?. The "show total devotion" to me sounds like you only brought past relationships up to cater to her ego..because for one, poor you...these past relationships and you couldn't help it..and secondly, placing a high expectation on her off the bat. If I was her and you would keep blabbing about how you were in destructive relationships..a flag would come up in my mind. You are the common denominator in all your past relationships.
^It might surprise you but there are people out there who don't need to slam ex partners to make their new partner feel cream of the crop.
Thanks for your comments Damnata! They r good, though u haven't hit my main concern: OUR COMMUNICATION and LOVE IS GREAT, the only confusing part to me is WHY DID SHE LIE ABOUT THOSE GUYS, and STILL DEFENDED THEM as ONLY FRIENDS? IF ITS JUST FRIENDS WHY SHE GETS ANGRY WHEN I ASKED HIM ABOUT HER, and when I want her to explain herself, she becomes defensive. I RESTRAINED NOT TO CONFRONT HER VERBALLY BECAUSE OF PREGNANCY! Even when I told her about my X, she never wanted to hear anything about her WAS SHE FEELING JEALOUSY/GUILTY because I was open and she wasn't on her side? She accepted one of my Xs when she was still pregnat, and they r really good friends with her. WHY DID SAY IT WOULD BE BETTER IF I NEVER TOLD HER, does this mean IT IS COMMON FOR HER TO KEEP SECRETS AS THESE—
Posted by Octoberbaby91
Love stands the test of time you married her and barely courted her. That guy knows more about her than you! I think she just was excited that someone wanted to marry her but realistically you don't know the woman you marry.
Yes she is cheating on you and she gets mad when you NOTICE. Sounds like she doesn't take her vows seriously so put your foot down and tell her you will leave if she tree trunks you over!!............
Thank you Octoberbaby91! Got ua point!
Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
If you seriously believe this dude is going to apply or take seriously any of what we say here about his wife, then you're stupider than he is, sorry, your need to help others can blind you sometimes. Wake up.
Thank you for having my best interests in mind. I can manage. 🙂
Posted by Damnata
I am mad curious about your chart. I have my guesses on your moon and what modality rules your chart.
You sound unlike any Pisces Man I ever met.
Go here: http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/natal<BR>
..and put your date of birth and time. You will see a table like:
Sun in..
Moon in..
Mercury in..
Paste that information here.
You DO it Damnata!! mine 04/03/85, and her 17/09/90! Sounds to me like you r also secretive, coz u keep on attacking my FLAWS AS YOU CLAIM, BUT FORGETTING HOW SHE HAS BEEN REACTED EVERY TIME I ASKED ABOUT THOSE GUYS! And YES, photos were doubtful at strange places, and as for the MESSAGES SHE WAS CHATTING TO THEM AS "HOW COUPLE/LOVERS DO", AND when I shown them to her and asked her, she couldn't answer boldly and sweet as usual, but sounded extremely worried and rapid heart pumping, AT THIS POINT, I HAD TO STOP TALKING as I feared it might IGNITE LABOR FOR HER, but I was cool!
Come on Damnata, is it too hard for you to get my point AS TO WHETHER I SHOULD TRUST HER WITH THOSE GUYS SHE CLAIMS ARE FRIENDS or not!
Posted by GGPosted by DamnataPosted by GG
Damnata actually read all that. Bless her heart.
I actually want to help because dude seems to have anger issues and he might just go home and kill his wife over idiots who are convinced she is cheating.
At least let's analyze everything since there's no way any of us has any clue if she cheats or not.
I'm all for that. Lets hear the full story before we jump to conclusions. Have you ever cheated or being accused of it?click to expand
We will never get the "full story" unless his wife gives us her side of the story, dumbass. Only THEN we would be able to draw any meaningful conclusions, anything else is just guesses and assumptions, but dont mind me..keep being stupid since you really want it.
Posted by GGPosted by DamnataPosted by GG
Damnata actually read all that. Bless her heart.
I actually want to help because dude seems to have anger issues and he might just go home and kill his wife over idiots who are convinced she is cheating.
At least let's analyze everything since there's no way any of us has any clue if she cheats or not.
I'm all for that. Lets hear the full story before we jump to conclusions. Have you ever cheated or being accused of it?click to expand
Yes. By someone who was cheating on me. I should've figured out that his sudden paranoia was him being sneaky and assuming if he can be sneaky..I could as well.
Posted by Damnata
Here's the cliff notes:
I don't know if this woman is cheating on your or not but your behavior is toxic as hell.
Bringing drama constantly..while your wife is pregnant? Dude, really? Do you have any respect at all?
This is pretty fantastic! I wish you knew me and u were my friend! BEHAVIOR TOXIC AS HELL? Sounds cute! DO YOU SUGGEST I SHOULD CLOSE MY EYES TO THESE UNUSUAL FRIENDSHIPS, AND APPARENT EMOTIONAL DECEPTIONS? IS THIS COMMON FOR VIRGO WOMEN? She had never complained TO me talking about EXs, infact she nearly cried when I was courting her in early 2012 "when I said to her there is a girl wanting me but I don't like her", she immediately insisted I SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED WITH HER IN ANY WAY WHILE I WANT TO MARRY HER(MY WIFE}! I STOPPED COMMUNICATING WITH THAT OTHER GIRL FOR GOOD!====BUT WHY NOT ABOUT HERSELF STOPPING COMMUNICATING WITH THOSE GUYS IN THAT WAY!!? TOXIC AS HELL, HUH!
BY THE WAY, AM ALWAYS FAITHFUL TO HER, I HAVE NEVER CHEATED ON HER AND AM OPEN AND HONEST ALWAYS!!
Posted by CluelessCancer
I would seriously work on your communication skills. Hers and yours and try to build a foundation. She probably didn't mention those guys, cause she knows how Egyptian men are (Typically crazy) and probably doesn't want her freedom to be impinged on.
I don't know if she's cheating or not, but i do know she's not comfortable with communication with you...so you need to work on that.
THANKS DUDE, I WILL WORK ON THAT!
Pisces, I will reply to you as soon as you mellow on the hysterics. You asked for advice, right?
Understand that no one here can tell you if she is cheating or not. We can only address YOUR behavior because YOU are the one posting YOUR side.
You are not being under attack here but you overreact emotionally. And that kind of behavior makes someone in your life close up because they start to FEAR you and then RESENT you. Emotionally volatile people are not reliable. If that's the energy you carry, there's no wonder she is secretive. What if you misunderstand something and lose it on her?
I never said you cheated. Calm the fuck down.
Your wife has weird behavior also, and I see the double standards. I don't have to demonize either of you here. Just understand that your behavior also comes into play.
Understand that no one here can tell you if she is cheating or not. We can only address YOUR behavior because YOU are the one posting YOUR side.
You are not being under attack here but you overreact emotionally. And that kind of behavior makes someone in your life close up because they start to FEAR you and then RESENT you. Emotionally volatile people are not reliable. If that's the energy you carry, there's no wonder she is secretive. What if you misunderstand something and lose it on her?
I never said you cheated. Calm the fuck down.
Your wife has weird behavior also, and I see the double standards. I don't have to demonize either of you here. Just understand that your behavior also comes into play.
Posted by Damnata
Exactly.
Her behavior makes me raise an eyebrow too, don't get me wrong. But I think she is reacting to his behavior because we tend to mold/wrap around partners. I need more details where he doesnt just paint her in a negative light.
MAY BE! BUT WE ONLY HAVE PROBLEMS WHEN I POINT TO HER FAULTS AND MISTAKES, THAT'S WHEN she becomes un-sweet and un-polite, it has nothing to do with MY BEHAVIOR! She is sweet and loving woman, AND SEX IS PURELY PASSIONATE, ROMANTIC, EXPLOSIVE and SPIRITUAL WITH HER! When I sense she is having issues and decide to ask for her to explain more, THAT'S WHEN SHE BECOMES BITTER, AND CHANGE EMOTIONALLY! Honesty, I tend to understand her beyond words and non-verbal displays! Only she can't explain to me well about these issues I explained here on DXP!
Sun Pisces
Moon Leo
Mercury Pisces
Venus Aries
Mars Aries
Jupiter Aquarius
Saturn Scorpio
Uranus Sagittarius
Neptune Capricorn
Pluto Scorpio
Lilith Aries
Asc node Taurus
Oh man..I was so sure he had a fire moon and mars.
Pisces, you are a fire water fish. There's no doubt in my mind you emotionally overreact.
Listen, when you make assumptions, they aren't reality. Don't run on a feeling. You feel she is hiding something so you go full on paranoid.
You asked me if I am secretive. I am, about some things. Because if my partner is the type that emotionally overreacts I will not share stuff that I know will trigger insecurity in him. I am not sneaky, I don't cheat but I don't want him to make him rage over nothing.
Try to put yourself in someone else's shoes here. If you knew you were innocent and someone was convinced you were a cheater, it would make you withdraw emotionally from them because they are SO convinced and there's nothing you can do to defend yourself. It errodes trust in a relationship. And all because people jump on assumptions. I have a heavy fire chart too..I know that you think what you feel is the reality but you need to step back a bit. Allow some tolerance to try and see if the situation is different..don't just run with one idea into the ground like a runaway train destroying everything in its path.
Moon Leo
Mercury Pisces
Venus Aries
Mars Aries
Jupiter Aquarius
Saturn Scorpio
Uranus Sagittarius
Neptune Capricorn
Pluto Scorpio
Lilith Aries
Asc node Taurus
Oh man..I was so sure he had a fire moon and mars.
Pisces, you are a fire water fish. There's no doubt in my mind you emotionally overreact.
Listen, when you make assumptions, they aren't reality. Don't run on a feeling. You feel she is hiding something so you go full on paranoid.
You asked me if I am secretive. I am, about some things. Because if my partner is the type that emotionally overreacts I will not share stuff that I know will trigger insecurity in him. I am not sneaky, I don't cheat but I don't want him to make him rage over nothing.
Try to put yourself in someone else's shoes here. If you knew you were innocent and someone was convinced you were a cheater, it would make you withdraw emotionally from them because they are SO convinced and there's nothing you can do to defend yourself. It errodes trust in a relationship. And all because people jump on assumptions. I have a heavy fire chart too..I know that you think what you feel is the reality but you need to step back a bit. Allow some tolerance to try and see if the situation is different..don't just run with one idea into the ground like a runaway train destroying everything in its path.
You love this woman and are trying to understand her, I can see that or you wouldn't have posted and would be indifferent about everything.
Can you suggest marriage counseling to her? Before any trust left dips below 0?
I really think you guys need to do that.
Can you suggest marriage counseling to her? Before any trust left dips below 0?
I really think you guys need to do that.
Posted by GG
And boom...I've had chicks direct me to their Facebook page just to show me how the drama evolves. So yeah, people do take advice here!!
You know someone has to be desperate for advice if they divulge personal info on a site like this.
Thank you GG, you got my point here, am really desperate for constructive advice! Because am in this situation, you people can easily see if am overreacting, too protective or so. Thanks a lot.
Sun Virgo
Moon Virgo
Mercury Virgo
Venus Virgo
Mars Gemini
Jupiter Leo
Saturn Capricorn
Uranus Capricorn
Neptune Capricorn
Pluto Scorpio
Lilith Sagittarius
Asc node Aquarius
Holy shit, your wife is the virgo to end all virgos.
Tell me, other than the "Friends" issue, do you feel she loves you? Is she involved in your life? Does she take good care of you? Or is she distant?
Moon Virgo
Mercury Virgo
Venus Virgo
Mars Gemini
Jupiter Leo
Saturn Capricorn
Uranus Capricorn
Neptune Capricorn
Pluto Scorpio
Lilith Sagittarius
Asc node Aquarius
Holy shit, your wife is the virgo to end all virgos.
Tell me, other than the "Friends" issue, do you feel she loves you? Is she involved in your life? Does she take good care of you? Or is she distant?
The main issue here is she is all earth and you are fire water.
Whenever you bring something up, you will bring it up emotionally. This will make her run for the hills, even if she is innocent (which I am not saying she is).
We run from emotional blowouts.
Take a deep breath and approach the topic calmly and not in an accusatory tone (i am sure she feels accused all the time because people with fire and water..we are like that. we come across as demanding).
Tell her calmly that you want to understand where she comes from. You have serious doubts about her behavior but want to see if you are right or not. Tell her there are misunderstandings between you and rather than fight, it would be better for someone who specializes in couple therapy to assess the dynamic between you so you can both benefit from it.
Whenever you bring something up, you will bring it up emotionally. This will make her run for the hills, even if she is innocent (which I am not saying she is).
We run from emotional blowouts.
Take a deep breath and approach the topic calmly and not in an accusatory tone (i am sure she feels accused all the time because people with fire and water..we are like that. we come across as demanding).
Tell her calmly that you want to understand where she comes from. You have serious doubts about her behavior but want to see if you are right or not. Tell her there are misunderstandings between you and rather than fight, it would be better for someone who specializes in couple therapy to assess the dynamic between you so you can both benefit from it.
Posted by GG
I swear to god I was going to say something aboiet Venus in Virgo.
In my experience, that's a cheater placement!!! A leo and a libra ex stand out in my mind right now.
I Jumped ship before any of that happened to me. The libra I'm sure did when we were together early on.
Rabbit and his wife both have that placements.
Let's not spook dude even more.
But I totally called that Leo Moon.
When I see stellium of Virgos in chart..I either think sneaky as fuck or loyal as fuck. No in between.
Posted by GGPosted by DamnataPosted by GG
I swear to god I was going to say something aboiet Venus in Virgo.
In my experience, that's a cheater placement!!! A leo and a libra ex stand out in my mind right now.
I Jumped ship before any of that happened to me. The libra I'm sure did when we were together early on.
Rabbit and his wife both have that placements.
Let's not spook dude even more.
But I totally called that Leo Moon.
When I see stellium of Virgos in chart..I either think sneaky as fuck or loyal as fuck. No in between.
Ok ok you're right. So what's your verdict so far?click to expand
She can either be really loyal and completely offended by his behavior..which I could see happening with all that damn fire
..or yeah, totally cheating. Because Virgo placements can justify cheating easily.
They need to go into marriage counseling, like right now.
Posted by Rabbit
But something else (other placement) would have to push them over that precipice.
Pretty sure a fire moon and mars can do that. Since we are obnoxious as hell and come across as demanding.
If she is loyal, everything he says will come across as offensive to her. She will resent him fiercely.
Posted by tizianiPosted by DamnataPosted by tiziani
Judgement Day is among us!
lmao @ you.
damn your moon's cheekiness.
😄click to expand
what do you have to say in defense of your virgo placements, tiz?
speak up or forever be sneaky.
Posted by GG
Mercurian to the core. Wow!!! I see why he's so upset.
I had a nightmare one night that all us mercurials will be murdered by water signs in what they call so poetically and romantically "crimes of passion"
Posted by tizianiPosted by CluelessCancerPosted by DamnataPosted by Rabbit
But something else (other placement) would have to push them over that precipice.
Pretty sure a fire moon and mars can do that. Since we are obnoxious as hell and come across as demanding.
If she is loyal, everything he says will come across as offensive to her. She will resent him fiercely.
No loyal people always explain their actions. They understand why they need too. Disloyal ppl behave secretly
Agreed.
She may be faithful but that's not loyalty.click to expand
Yes, for the first time.
After I explain it the first time in full detail and you keep asking me again and again? Then your lack of trust trumps my need to cater to you.
Basically I disagree on explaining it over and over again. If I do it the first time and you still don't trust me..there's only so many times I can repeat myself in so many ways. I will build up resentment because if I am loyal, your distrust offends me. Literally offends me and calls into question every feeling we have between us. It's a lack of respect to the core.
But the first time? Yes, I am going to talk and do anything to know for sure that I sent the message across and you understood and have no fear over me being disloyal.
But the first time? Yes, I am going to talk and do anything to know for sure that I sent the message across and you understood and have no fear over me being disloyal.
Posted by GGPosted by DamnataPosted by GG
I swear to god I was going to say something aboiet Venus in Virgo.
In my experience, that's a cheater placement!!! A leo and a libra ex stand out in my mind right now.
I Jumped ship before any of that happened to me. The libra I'm sure did when we were together early on.
Rabbit and his wife both have that placements.
Let's not spook dude even more.
But I totally called that Leo Moon.
When I see stellium of Virgos in chart..I either think sneaky as fuck or loyal as fuck. No in between.
Doesn't mean its not happening.
You guys kill me when you think you can read a persons personality based on their writing.click to expand
As with everything in life..50-50 odds.
Well it depends on the coin toss and the side facing up but yeah.
What I dont get is (well, unless this thread was only about venting or looking for sympathy) what kind of new insight or information does this guy hope to get from us when HE KNOWS deep in his heart whats going on! Is he hoping/fooling himself into believing that we tell him his suspicions are not correct and that he is just overreacting? DUDE!! for real? He knows exactly what is happening and what he has to do, he just doesnt have the courage (yet) to do what he has to do. Hes hoping we can lie to him and tell him everything will be just fine and he is just overreacting.
Posted by CluelessCancerPosted by Damnata
Basically I disagree on explaining it over and over again. If I do it the first time and you still don't trust me..there's only so many times I can repeat myself in so many ways. I will build up resentment because if I am loyal, your distrust offends me. Literally offends me and calls into question every feeling we have between us. It's a lack of respect to the core.
But the first time? Yes, I am going to talk and do anything to know for sure that I sent the message across and you understood and have no fear over me being disloyal.
No dude, you build trust, until its Built, it takes time. U need patience. Especially if you're acting disloyal...click to expand
I agree with you CC.
But building trust is a process where people are open and willing to engage each other and take a risk. It should be treated with nurturing one another and not flying to erratic behavior. Letting down guards and feeling increasing safety.
Just look at these fools here dissecting every little chart placement hoping to get real answers that way 😛
scorchy was right...you all need some Jesus in your life
Posted by GGPosted by BoomShakalakaBoom
What I dont get is (well, unless this thread was only about venting or looking for sympathy) what kind of new insight or information does this guy hope to get from us when HE KNOWS deep in his heart whats going on! Is he hoping/fooling himself into believing that we tell him his suspicions are not correct and that he is just overreacting? DUDE!! for real? He knows exactly what is happening and what he has to do, he just doesnt have the courage (yet) to do what he has to do. Hes hoping we can lie to him and tell him everything will be just fine and he is just overreacting.
They're married with children, dude. Have a little compassion.
Those ties are not easy to break. 😢click to expand
Theres a fine line between compassion and lying to someone just to make him (temporarily) feel better. Isnt it better to give a reality check that can wake him up to the situation rather than feeling sorry for him and making him feel sorry for himself, without getting to the root of the real issue?
Posted by CluelessCancerPosted by DamnataPosted by CluelessCancerPosted by Damnata
Basically I disagree on explaining it over and over again. If I do it the first time and you still don't trust me..there's only so many times I can repeat myself in so many ways. I will build up resentment because if I am loyal, your distrust offends me. Literally offends me and calls into question every feeling we have between us. It's a lack of respect to the core.
But the first time? Yes, I am going to talk and do anything to know for sure that I sent the message across and you understood and have no fear over me being disloyal.
No dude, you build trust, until its Built, it takes time. U need patience. Especially if you're acting disloyal...
I agree with you CC.
But building trust is a process where people are open and willing to engage each other and take a risk. It should be treated with nurturing one another and not flying to erratic behavior. Letting down guards and feeling increasing safety.
True. But how can you do that when someone hides their relations with other men and gets mad when you ask about it?
click to expand
She did tell him about that dude from college, he even talked to that dude on the phone. If that dude was truly a friend..which was at the point where he started getting paranoid..then she wouldn't risk it to tell him about more friends of hers.
(assuming she wasn't cheating with that dude all along)
I'm just saying I can see her behavior both as cheating or very loyal. So it's a coin flip.
What is obvious is a breakdown in communication.
Its not an easy situation, I can understand that. Im just trying to bring some real talk here.
Posted by BoomShakalakaBoomPosted by GGPosted by BoomShakalakaBoom
What I dont get is (well, unless this thread was only about venting or looking for sympathy) what kind of new insight or information does this guy hope to get from us when HE KNOWS deep in his heart whats going on! Is he hoping/fooling himself into believing that we tell him his suspicions are not correct and that he is just overreacting? DUDE!! for real? He knows exactly what is happening and what he has to do, he just doesnt have the courage (yet) to do what he has to do. Hes hoping we can lie to him and tell him everything will be just fine and he is just overreacting.
They're married with children, dude. Have a little compassion.
Those ties are not easy to break. 😢
Theres a fine line between compassion and lying to someone just to make him (temporarily) feel better. Isnt it better to give a reality check that can wake him up to the situation rather than feeling sorry for him and making him feel sorry for himself, without getting to the root of the real issue?click to expand
Yes.
But we don't know her. So he gets insight both from people who assume she is cheating and those that don't. For an even point of reference.
He will do what he wants regardless.
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