My Girlfriend Vow to Abstinence ruining relationship

Met my Girlfriend 2 1/2 years ago and during the past 2 years we have had sex a lot, crazy, mind blowing, hot, fun, some times marathon style sex. But crazy thing is about almost 3 months ago all of a sudden she has made a vow not to have sex anymore until she’s married and becomes a wife. She said she wants more and wants to stop having physical sex with me including oral, touching etc until I’m ready to commit to marriage and family, and we have a traditional wedding, which by the way I would love too marry her and start a family but I’m not ready too right now partly due to us being young and a little unstable... so I’m feeling right out pressured. When I got with her first it was all physical animal attraction then months later I fell in love with her once we got to know each other and talked everyday. But right now as a man to switch up and say no sex? Again as a man I need that kitty cat to relieve this stress of working 12 hours a day and then take a quick nap then go for round 2. I do feel deceived partly due to the fact she knows I’m very sexually active with her and she’s holding the kitty cat hostage until I marry her. Am I wrong to feel played and pressured into something I’m just not fully ready for?

And no I haven’t told her about my dream. Never will.

Live out your dream by having her peg you. It won't ruin her abstinence if you're the one getting drilled.

Or turn to Jesus.

Posted by PhoenixStorm

I have been in your girlfriends shoes so I can relate with her but I can also understand your frustration. It can be very confusing.. she’s not doing it as a game, she genuinely feels conflicted.

How old are you guys?

I’m 31 she’s 27

Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShow

Live out your dream by having her peg you. It won't ruin her abstinence if you're the one getting drilled.

Or turn to Jesus.

I have a Do Not Enter sign back there

Posted by PhoenixStorm

I have been in your girlfriends shoes so I can relate with her but I can also understand your frustration. It can be very confusing.. she’s not doing it as a game, she genuinely feels conflicted.

How old are you guys?

How did it end? Did he marry you or did you give in? And or you still together

What did she do when you busted out laughing at her comment.

She's giving you a shit test during the retrograde.

Do you 2 stay together ?

I'm not big on the marriage thing but you think you're too young at 31 yrs old? When the right age for you...in your 40s?

Anyway...I'm not gonna say she isn't using a form of manipulation to get you to commit more to her...which isn't fair but also on the flip side...she wants to settle down and probably thinks the sex is literally all you want from her...she's proving a point imo.

She’s giving you an ultimatum... not a good way to start a marriage. I personally think it’s always a bad idea to push men into marriage when they’re not ready (women can handle this better). But I also understand her wanting to get settled and married soon while she’s still in her good years or moving onto the next guy who will give her that soon.

It is what it is. Either you both compromise (which she might not do as I suspect she doesn't trust you'll follow through timely) or let her go since she seems ready to move forward from you if necessary.

Posted by FactCheck

She's ready to get married and settle down. I'm surprised she hasn't left you. This is like her last ditch effort to get you to grow up. Guys usually propose after a year and a half. If you want to get married and he hasn't proposed in two and a half years, you're wasting your time.

I agree. She's giving all the benefits without a commitment. Now his ass is spoiled. She's doing the right thing lmao

Posted by LostinmyMind11

I'm not big on the marriage thing but you think you're too young at 31 yrs old? When the right age for you...in your 40s?

Anyway...I'm not gonna say she isn't using a form of manipulation to get you to commit more to her...which isn't fair but also on the flip side...she wants to settle down and probably thinks the sex is literally all you want from her...she's proving a point imo.

Seriously! Our grandparents had their shit together got married in their early 20s while men these days still act young and naive in their 30s and 40s.

caps always want things locked down

even before being physically intimate, cap guy i'm dating made sure that i tell him out loud that i'm totally cool with marrying him lol

that's how they roll

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I'm not big on the marriage thing but you think you're too young at 31 yrs old? When the right age for you...in your 40s?

Anyway...I'm not gonna say she isn't using a form of manipulation to get you to commit more to her...which isn't fair but also on the flip side...she wants to settle down and probably thinks the sex is literally all you want from her...she's proving a point imo.

Seriously! Our grandparents had their shit together got married in their early 20s while men these days still act young and naive in their 30s and 40s.

And how many do our grandparents stayed married? Mine didn’t.

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I totally get how it wasn’t ideal for everyone back then but it gets more and more difficult for women to conceive down the line based on waiting around for the men to be ready these days. I think there’s a healthy medium in there for those who are actually serious about that stuff and genuinely want it which is at least by their 30s unless the chick is significantly younger. Idk why women are not more upfront about their time line before taking things serious and would rather hold something over the guy’s head.

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I'm not big on the marriage thing but you think you're too young at 31 yrs old? When the right age for you...in your 40s?

Anyway...I'm not gonna say she isn't using a form of manipulation to get you to commit more to her...which isn't fair but also on the flip side...she wants to settle down and probably thinks the sex is literally all you want from her...she's proving a point imo.

Seriously! Our grandparents had their shit together got married in their early 20s while men these days still act young and naive in their 30s and 40s.

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people back then were professional love bombers who enjoyed themselves

now they're just negging cowards

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I'm not big on the marriage thing but you think you're too young at 31 yrs old? When the right age for you...in your 40s?

Anyway...I'm not gonna say she isn't using a form of manipulation to get you to commit more to her...which isn't fair but also on the flip side...she wants to settle down and probably thinks the sex is literally all you want from her...she's proving a point imo.

Seriously! Our grandparents had their shit together got married in their early 20s while men these days still act young and naive in their 30s and 40s.

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Exactly. When I read they were too young...I was thinking early 20s then he says 31...I'm like oh, he's probably a man child and I can see why she put this on him lol. It's still not right but shes basically telling him shes done wasting her time if he don't want anything else with her.

She wants marriage and her eggs are drying up. She’s 27, ideally she’d want to have children before 35.

Your 31. If your not ready now, you’ll never be ready (with her).

She’s given you an ultimatum effectively, and by controlling the ‘little head’ she hopes to break through to the big head.

Either step up to the plate or get off the train. No room for living in the in between like you have been for the last 2 1/2 years.

In her defense you have talked to her about wanting to get married but haven’t put your money where your mouth is. So in a way she’s showing you what a tease you’ve been by paying you back by giving you the pussy and then taking it off the table.

Posted by SuperSize9

Met my Girlfriend 2 1/2 years ago and during the past 2 years we have had sex a lot, crazy, mind blowing, hot, fun, some times marathon style sex. But crazy thing is about almost 3 months ago all of a sudden she has made a vow not to have sex anymore until she’s married and becomes a wife. She said she wants more and wants to stop having physical sex with me including oral, touching etc until I’m ready to commit to marriage and family, and we have a traditional wedding, which by the way I would love too marry her and start a family but I’m not ready too right now partly due to us being young and a little unstable... so I’m feeling right out pressured. When I got with her first it was all physical animal attraction then months later I fell in love with her once we got to know each other and talked everyday. But right now as a man to switch up and say no sex? Again as a man I need that kitty cat to relieve this stress of working 12 hours a day and then take a quick nap then go for round 2. I do feel deceived partly due to the fact she knows I’m very sexually active with her and she’s holding the kitty cat hostage until I marry her. Am I wrong to feel played and pressured into something I’m just not fully ready for?

And no I haven’t told her about my dream. Never will.

She's not your gym or personal stress reliever. All I'm hearing is you you you. Not hearing anything about you thinking about her needs. She has a right to want more. That's all you guys think about. Sex and your selfish so called needs. Why do men expect sex before making commitment or showing a woman more? Not gonna kill you to abstain a little bit. I need that kitty cat to relieve stress. Sounds like love...NOT. That's user type shit.

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I'm not big on the marriage thing but you think you're too young at 31 yrs old? When the right age for you...in your 40s?

Anyway...I'm not gonna say she isn't using a form of manipulation to get you to commit more to her...which isn't fair but also on the flip side...she wants to settle down and probably thinks the sex is literally all you want from her...she's proving a point imo.

Seriously! Our grandparents had their shit together got married in their early 20s while men these days still act young and naive in their 30s and 40s.

And how many do our grandparents stayed married? Mine didn’t.

I totally get how it wasn’t ideal for everyone back then but it gets more and more difficult for women to conceive down the line based on waiting around for the men to be ready these days. I think there’s a healthy medium in there for those who are actually serious about that stuff and genuinely want it which is at least by their 30s unless the chick is significantly younger. Idk why women are not more upfront about their time line before taking things serious and would rather hold something over the guy’s head.

I agree. You discuss your timeline with your spouse. Aqua knows what I expect and when I expect it. If it doesn’t happen I can always leave. But I’m not going to strong arm him into a lifelong commitment. I wouldn’t even want to be with a man that could manipulated with my pussy that easily. Gross!

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That’s why I think she’s so ready to move on from him. Because that’s honestly a stupid ultimatum and begs infidelity. You don’t pull that shit in the age of tinder and ashleymadison. At least back then some men would put up with it cause they’d think it’s too much effort to find someone else to warm them at night, now it’s a click away. It has never been so easy as it is now to jump from person to person.

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Live out your dream by having her peg you. It won't ruin her abstinence if you're the one getting drilled.

Or turn to Jesus.

I have a Do Not Enter sign back there

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Yeah......so did other people I know, until they met me.

Besides, beggars can't be choosers. Now it's just you, your hand & the Holy Fuck.

Your unwillingness to show her more is ruining the relationship. You act like its wrong for her to expect more and want more out of her man than just dick.

The sex was mind blowing and SO good....you ever stop to think that maybe its not so great in her mind, especially after 2 and a half years? You're acting as if that's all she's good for. As long as you're pleased you're happy. But when it's time to man up, shy away like coward. Having sex is not manning up. All you put on the table is sex that you think is so great. What else do you offer her in a relationship? Doesn't matter what women you get with, we always want MORE than what's in your pants. Stop being a user and man tf up.

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Posted by PhoenixStorm

I love how when it’s a woman asserting herself and not settling for less than what she deserves it’s considered manipulation. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Men do this shit on a regular basis. “I’m too young”. “I’m not ready”. “I don’t have all my ducks lined up yet”. And everyone makes excuses for them but says the woman is manipulative when she’s being true to herself before being true to him.

Fuck outta here 🙄

She absolutely can do that but there may be consequences. Same as if a man says the things you mention in your post.

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Yeah. Consequences of dropping the loser and getting a person who is willing to give her more. I don't see where she loses.

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Posted by LostinmyMind11

I'm not big on the marriage thing but you think you're too young at 31 yrs old? When the right age for you...in your 40s?

Anyway...I'm not gonna say she isn't using a form of manipulation to get you to commit more to her...which isn't fair but also on the flip side...she wants to settle down and probably thinks the sex is literally all you want from her...she's proving a point imo.

Seriously! Our grandparents had their shit together got married in their early 20s while men these days still act young and naive in their 30s and 40s.

And how many do our grandparents stayed married? Mine didn’t.

I totally get how it wasn’t ideal for everyone back then but it gets more and more difficult for women to conceive down the line based on waiting around for the men to be ready these days. I think there’s a healthy medium in there for those who are actually serious about that stuff and genuinely want it which is at least by their 30s unless the chick is significantly younger. Idk why women are not more upfront about their time line before taking things serious and would rather hold something over the guy’s head.

I agree. You discuss your timeline with your spouse. Aqua knows what I expect and when I expect it. If it doesn’t happen I can always leave. But I’m not going to strong arm him into a lifelong commitment. I wouldn’t even want to be with a man that could manipulated with my pussy that easily. Gross!

That’s why I think she’s so ready to move on from him. Because that’s honestly a stupid ultimatum and begs infidelity. You don’t pull that shit in the age of tinder and ashleymadison. At least back then some men would put up with it cause they’d think it’s too much effort to find someone else to warm them at night, now it’s a click away. It has never been so easy as it is now to jump from person to person.

So she should just say “fuck what I want, put my own dreams and values to the side and let me keep fucking and sucking him to prevent him from getting it elsewhere”?

How about NO.

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Definitely not, I just think it’s a big sign that their relationship has come to a pivotal point of reevaluating whether they should continue further or not. Clearly I think men in general care more about sex over other things and are even willing to put long term relationships on the line for it.

Posted by Dreamy88

Either marry her or grab a bunch of hobbies that get you mentally invested man. I agree with Arielle, but it’s going to be up to you if you want to marry her. Also consider what she’s doing to get you into marrying her. It’s a bit shady, but it happens. Plus, she’s in her fruitful years and I’m sure she wants babies at this point.

No allowing men to use us up is not shady. Women get tired of being treated as play things. What you don't realize is every time we have sex, we're giving up a piece of our soul literally but it's wrong to want more of a commitment? He had time to show her on his own but so far showed nothing. Now she's taking the lead and she's being shady?

I swear sometimes I think you guys are really true selfish idiots.

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I love how when it’s a woman asserting herself and not settling for less than what she deserves it’s considered manipulation. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Men do this shit on a regular basis. “I’m too young”. “I’m not ready”. “I don’t have all my ducks lined up yet”. And everyone makes excuses for them but says the woman is manipulative when she’s being true to herself before being true to him.

Fuck outta here 🙄

She absolutely can do that but there may be consequences. Same as if a man says the things you mention in your post.

Yeah. Consequences of dropping the loser and getting a person who is willing to give her more. I don't see where she loses.

Well, she would lose if she actually likes the OP. She won’t if any man will do to be the groom or she just wants someone to fund project baby.

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Likes? Doesn't sound like she's happy with like anymore. Sounds like she wants love. Trust me like changes very fast when a women sees a man brings no worth to the table. Again losing a man who shows nothing but dick is not losing anything. She'll be fine. Little boys are long forgotten when real men step up to the plate.

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Apparently sex is only something men want, enjoy and require in a healthy relationship and it’s something women just do as a means to get a man to the alter

🤮

Yes. Unfortunately some women require more than a good fuck. Cold world.

Please don’t take your personal issues out on me or put words in my mouth.

If you require more than a good fuck then bring more to the table than being a good fuck

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Its your duty to bring more to the table as well. Not just the woman's.

Literally the OP stated very clearly what he wants from her...sex, that's all he sees in her. She's starting to feel this...the doing it like rabbits/honeymoon phase has passed but instead of voicing this to him...she using manipulation to see exactly where he truly stands with her and their relationship. Again it's not right and needs to be actually discussed.

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Apparently sex is only something men want, enjoy and require in a healthy relationship and it’s something women just do as a means to get a man to the alter

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Yes. Unfortunately some women require more than a good fuck. Cold world.

Please don’t take your personal issues out on me or put words in my mouth.

If you require more than a good fuck then bring more to the table than being a good fuck

Its your duty to bring more to the table as well. Not just the woman's.

You think he brings absolutely nothing to the table and yet she wants to marry him?? Then she is an idiot if he has nothing going for him and she wants to tie herself to him for life

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I didn't say he was worthless or treated her unkind. I said what else besides penis is he gun ho about showing her?

He said he wants to but they are unstable right now. But that doesn't stop sex from happening. What if a baby is made? Is he ready for that in all of their unstableness or does that not matter when he wants sex? Excuses like a mf when it comes to stronger commitment. Sex isn't love. She wants more. Question is if he is willing to give more. Never said he couldn't or didn't have it in him.

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Posted by LostinmyMind11

Literally the OP stated very clearly what he wants from her...sex, that's all he sees in her. She's starting to feel this but instead of voicing this to him...she using manipulation to see exactly where he truly stands with her and their relationship. Again it's not right and needs to be actually discussed.

What if they've discussed it before, and up until now he has dodged and manipulated his way out of a straight answer? Cuz, come on, we all know that's how she got to this point. If this is even a real thing that happened.

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Well he's 31 yrs old and thinks he too young for further commitment in his life...that's speaks volumes imo. He'll probably keep dodging cause he needs that kitty cat damnit! Lol

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Literally the OP stated very clearly what he wants from her...sex, that's all he sees in her. She's starting to feel this but instead of voicing this to him...she using manipulation to see exactly where he truly stands with her and their relationship. Again it's not right and needs to be actually discussed.

Actually he said this:

which by the way I would love too marry her and start a family but I’m not ready too right now partly due to us being young and a little unstable...

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Fluff words imo to make it look like he ain't all about the sex. You can tell in his original OP his view on their sex life. Hell...I can picture it by how he described it. Normally people just say they have a fantastic sex life...he went on and on about it. And literally called her kitty cat a stress reliever and how dare she take that way from him...ah, seems so in love.

Omg 😆 just realized op is the same poster who made the thread about having a gay dream.

hahaha thats why you have gay dreams

Posted by PhoenixStorm

I love how when it’s a woman asserting herself and not settling for less than what she deserves it’s considered manipulation. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Men do this shit on a regular basis. “I’m too young”. “I’m not ready”. “I don’t have all my ducks lined up yet”. And everyone makes excuses for them but says the woman is manipulative when she’s being true to herself before being true to him.

Fuck outta here 🙄

You can assert yourself by sit his ass down and tell him like it is. That is blackmail/ultimatum.

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I love how when it’s a woman asserting herself and not settling for less than what she deserves it’s considered manipulation. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Men do this shit on a regular basis. “I’m too young”. “I’m not ready”. “I don’t have all my ducks lined up yet”. And everyone makes excuses for them but says the woman is manipulative when she’s being true to herself before being true to him.

Fuck outta here 🙄

You can assert yourself by sit his ass down and tell him like it is. That is blackmail/ultimatum.

You’re assuming they haven’t had the talks. He knows why she is doing it which shows that she probably has had the talks with him about where this is going etc

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And you are assuming they did have the talk, so OP can you give more Information?

It can't be just for kids - withholding sex is wasting time then

If she is manipulating u into government-tied commitment, u must be a great catch. Or rich.

Why does she wanna marry u so badly?

If the sex is that great she wouldn't punish herself like that... Unless she likes suffering

Maybe you have competition 🙈 she might be cheating already..

Posted by Phantum

I've honestly not taken this thread seriously.

Considering the amount of people who have, I am extremely pessimistic for the future of the human race. The list of people who should never be allowed to procreate and pollute the gene pool has doubled overnight.

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I've honestly not taken this thread seriously.

Considering the amount of people who have, I am extremely pessimistic for the future of the human race. The list of people who should never be allowed to procreate and pollute the gene pool has doubled overnight.

Kittus Grumpus

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Krampus Pussius

Maybe this is a time for you to tell her you want to take a break since she's not fulfilling you as a girlfriend and you don't want to cheat. I swear, woman can be morons with this type of shit. How is she trying to give you an ultimatum smh.

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After 7 pages, OP hasn't even answered

All that matters is that you're here ❤️

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I'm not big on the marriage thing but you think you're too young at 31 yrs old? When the right age for you...in your 40s?

Anyway...I'm not gonna say she isn't using a form of manipulation to get you to commit more to her...which isn't fair but also on the flip side...she wants to settle down and probably thinks the sex is literally all you want from her...she's proving a point imo.

Seriously! Our grandparents had their shit together got married in their early 20s while men these days still act young and naive in their 30s and 40s.

people back then were professional love bombers who enjoyed themselves

now they're just negging cowards

LOL

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i'm proud to say i participated in babymaking on the 47th day....yet again

none of that coward business

people are so scared, so gross

Posted by PhoenixStorm

I love how when it’s a woman asserting herself and not settling for less than what she deserves it’s considered manipulation. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Men do this shit on a regular basis. “I’m too young”. “I’m not ready”. “I don’t have all my ducks lined up yet”. And everyone makes excuses for them but says the woman is manipulative when she’s being true to herself before being true to him.

Fuck outta here 🙄

say this louder for the ppl in the back!!!

Using sex as a means to coercing people to do what you want is distasteful. It’s emotional blackmail. If she is looking to get married and have kids, this is not the way to get it. So wrong for so many reasons.

These comments... especially from other women is a bit alarming...

but hey, who am I to judge?

Posted by aquarius09

Using sex as a means to coercing people to do what you want is distasteful. It’s emotional blackmail. If she is looking to get married and have kids, this is not the way to get it. So wrong for so many reasons.

100%

Now consider the fact that he's sold her the dream of marriage and kids 'just not right now' so he can get at the pussy. Now she is closing shop to call him on his bluff after 2.5years of empty words.

Imo they deserve each other. They communicate in the same way lol

Posted by SuperSize9

She said she wants more and wants to stop having physical sex with me including oral, touching etc until I’m ready to commit to marriage and family, and we have a traditional wedding, which by the way I would love too marry her and start a family but I’m not ready too right now partly due to us being young and a little unstable...

This is why you always lay out your end goal from the start.

Where she went wrong was trying to barter.

She should've just left your ass and moved onto the next.

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I do think it’s kind of stupid to just cut off sex though, she should have just cut you off completely.

smh thats what I'm saying!

If your gonna send a message, send a message

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These comments... especially from other women is a bit alarming...

but hey, who am I to judge?

Some of us want to get married to someone who is ready and going to be there for us.. not because we manipulate them into doing so.. That just spells for a divorce. How could I happily marry someone knowing I manipulated them into it?? I want them to want it too.

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I agree, I just don't see the manipulation on her end. More so, from his. He's 31 and can't figure out if he wants the marry the girl he's been getting action from for 2 1/2 years?? Who wants to lay up and continue to have meaningless sex with a grown a** man who doesn't know if he wants her forever or not? He's lucky that sex was the only thing she stopped doing. I would have left him... There's women he can buy for all the sex in the world...

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Using sex as a means to coercing people to do what you want is distasteful. It’s emotional blackmail. If she is looking to get married and have kids, this is not the way to get it. So wrong for so many reasons.

100%

Now consider the fact that he's sold her the dream of marriage and kids 'just not right now' so he can get at the pussy. Now she is closing shop to call him on his bluff after 2.5years of empty words.

Imo they deserve each other. They communicate in the same way lol

Exactly! She's taking sex off the table because that's all he gives a damn about. I wouldn't want to marry him, but apparently she does.

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It does seem like sex is all that all he cares about, looking at his dxp post history. Gay sex dreams lol

People treat ultimatums as a four letter word. But they aren't all bad. We all are unconsciously making them everyday in our relationships.

Either you grow with me, or we grow apart.

Dazed is this you—

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Posted by ArilovesAqu

She’s just using him for an emotional connection. That’s all she gives a damn about. Burn her at the stake.

And he's just using her for a sexual connection. See... they deserve each other. True love wins!

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I love how when it’s a woman asserting herself and not settling for less than what she deserves it’s considered manipulation. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Men do this shit on a regular basis. “I’m too young”. “I’m not ready”. “I don’t have all my ducks lined up yet”. And everyone makes excuses for them but says the woman is manipulative when she’s being true to herself before being true to him.

Fuck outta here 🙄

You can assert yourself by sit his ass down and tell him like it is. That is blackmail/ultimatum.

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This is more a boundary that should have been set earlier in the relationship. Both of them went into this it seems without ever talking about their futures goals and personal needs. However they choose to work it out is of little concern. It’s takes two to tango so they both got themselves into this with poor communication skills and lack of self love.

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Posted by aquarius09

Using sex as a means to coercing people to do what you want is distasteful. It’s emotional blackmail. If she is looking to get married and have kids, this is not the way to get it. So wrong for so many reasons.

100%

Now consider the fact that he's sold her the dream of marriage and kids 'just not right now' so he can get at the pussy. Now she is closing shop to call him on his bluff after 2.5years of empty words.

Imo they deserve each other. They communicate in the same way lol

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No doubt! Completely agree. I didn’t know he was selling her dreams of marriage and kids. To be honest, there’s plenty of people, both genders included, who promise things which aren’t delivered even though they have the best of intentions. However, at the end of the day, you gotta have a deadline for yourself. My former employer kept promising me shit too and I gave them a year to do it. When they didn’t do it, I left. Can’t sit on people’s empty promises no matter what the situation is. You gotta have a cut off date for yourself, not cut off sex. LoL