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Well, we're all passengers - in the walk of life, and... as the path changes - so do the travel companions. Some of us - are even bound to walk solo for quite some time... And that's just it... you can chose the path - but not people (you never know who's gonna be there or if you'll find a travel companion for that given path you've chosen). The thing is... everything in this world revolves around chemistry - and thus... your chosen path might be filled with people - but not all of them have what it takes (if any) - to be like brothers and sisters... the so called - family you get to chose (maybe they were already chosen/fated for you - or something like that...). You may share a train cabin with 5 other people - yet you can barely exchange a few words for the whole trip (a long one even) - while other times and in other train cabins - you may find some people that seem to bare a familial vibe... as if you've known them for a life time (or even more than one). Eventually, we all reach an age - when most of our past travel companions are nothing more than memories...



Same goes for us - and that tiny space we may hold (more or less) - in the mind and heart of someone we used to call friend (and vice versa). For couple more decades... at least (memento mori).


Very well put. 😊
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Strange i see this post when i have been thinking about a friend for the past few days. She has been missing since last year lol when she got married and i got angry with her and before that also we weren't talking much before that but a few chats here and there but idk why suddenly i have been thinking of her alot lately like there is an urge to reconnect again like old times but i know it won't happen.

As for what friendship means to me is when we can be happy for the other person when good things happen to them and also when you need them they will be there, and sometimes even a checking up on someone is enough even when you can't be fully involved.


Were you guys strictly platonic or were there romantic feelings from one or both sides?
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Strange i see this post when i have been thinking about a friend for the past few days. She has been missing since last year lol when she got married and i got angry with her and before that also we weren't talking much before that but a few chats here and there but idk why suddenly i have been thinking of her alot lately like there is an urge to reconnect again like old times but i know it won't happen.

As for what friendship means to me is when we can be happy for the other person when good things happen to them and also when you need them they will be there, and sometimes even a checking up on someone is enough even when you can't be fully involved.

Were you guys strictly platonic or were there romantic feelings from one or both sides?
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One side, mine and prob hence the anger.
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Strange i see this post when i have been thinking about a friend for the past few days. She has been missing since last year lol when she got married and i got angry with her and before that also we weren't talking much before that but a few chats here and there but idk why suddenly i have been thinking of her alot lately like there is an urge to reconnect again like old times but i know it won't happen.

As for what friendship means to me is when we can be happy for the other person when good things happen to them and also when you need them they will be there, and sometimes even a checking up on someone is enough even when you can't be fully involved.

Were you guys strictly platonic or were there romantic feelings from one or both sides?

One side, mine and prob hence the anger.
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Yeah... I figured. It makes total sense that she would distance herself, out of respect for her husband. What I don’t get is, if she knew how you felt and knew she didn’t reciprocate, why did she maintain your friendship to begin with? I mean, do you feel you were strung along or did she make it known she only cared for you as a friend?
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Strange i see this post when i have been thinking about a friend for the past few days. She has been missing since last year lol when she got married and i got angry with her and before that also we weren't talking much before that but a few chats here and there but idk why suddenly i have been thinking of her alot lately like there is an urge to reconnect again like old times but i know it won't happen.

As for what friendship means to me is when we can be happy for the other person when good things happen to them and also when you need them they will be there, and sometimes even a checking up on someone is enough even when you can't be fully involved.

Were you guys strictly platonic or were there romantic feelings from one or both sides?

One side, mine and prob hence the anger.

Yeah... I figured. It makes total sense that she would distance herself, out of respect for her husband. What I don’t get is, if she knew how you felt and knew she didn’t reciprocate, why did she maintain your friendship to begin with? I mean, do you feel you were strung along or did she make it known she only cared for you as a friend?
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Yes, we had a discussion about this where i told her i had feelings for her and she said she didn't but i she said i am her best friend. And we were fine with it. This was a long time back. Then she left for her higher studies and contact became less and less and then almost stopped. We reconnected in brief and she was very happy to see me again, but since we were in different cities and due to work pressure it wasn't like before. Still i tried to keep things alive but prob she was already involved with someone and couldn't give the same like before and then one day a mutual friend told me she is getting married and i felt angry as it should have come from her and why didn't she tell me about this when i had asked her about it many times before. And now idk why all of a sudden i am thinking of her so much when i know nothing is gonna happen.
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Strange i see this post when i have been thinking about a friend for the past few days. She has been missing since last year lol when she got married and i got angry with her and before that also we weren't talking much before that but a few chats here and there but idk why suddenly i have been thinking of her alot lately like there is an urge to reconnect again like old times but i know it won't happen.

As for what friendship means to me is when we can be happy for the other person when good things happen to them and also when you need them they will be there, and sometimes even a checking up on someone is enough even when you can't be fully involved.

Were you guys strictly platonic or were there romantic feelings from one or both sides?

One side, mine and prob hence the anger.

Yeah... I figured. It makes total sense that she would distance herself, out of respect for her husband. What I don’t get is, if she knew how you felt and knew she didn’t reciprocate, why did she maintain your friendship to begin with? I mean, do you feel you were strung along or did she make it known she only cared for you as a friend?

Yes, we had a discussion about this where i told her i had feelings for her and she said she didn't but i she said i am her best friend. And we were fine with it. This was a long time back. Then she left for her higher studies and contact became less and less and then almost stopped. We reconnected in brief and she was very happy to see me again, but since we were in different cities and due to work pressure it wasn't like before. Still i tried to keep things alive but prob she was already involved with someone and couldn't give the same like before and then one day a mutual friend told me she is getting married and i felt angry as it should have come from her and why didn't she tell me about this when i had asked her about it many times before. And now idk why all of a sudden i am thinking of her so much when i know nothing is gonna happen.
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It can be painful when a door closes. Moreso when someone else does the closing. It makes sense to be on your mind when I’m sure you have many questions left unanswered. Hopefully you can find your own closure. Time works wonders with that one.
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Strange i see this post when i have been thinking about a friend for the past few days. She has been missing since last year lol when she got married and i got angry with her and before that also we weren't talking much before that but a few chats here and there but idk why suddenly i have been thinking of her alot lately like there is an urge to reconnect again like old times but i know it won't happen.

As for what friendship means to me is when we can be happy for the other person when good things happen to them and also when you need them they will be there, and sometimes even a checking up on someone is enough even when you can't be fully involved.

Were you guys strictly platonic or were there romantic feelings from one or both sides?

One side, mine and prob hence the anger.

Yeah... I figured. It makes total sense that she would distance herself, out of respect for her husband. What I don’t get is, if she knew how you felt and knew she didn’t reciprocate, why did she maintain your friendship to begin with? I mean, do you feel you were strung along or did she make it known she only cared for you as a friend?

Yes, we had a discussion about this where i told her i had feelings for her and she said she didn't but i she said i am her best friend. And we were fine with it. This was a long time back. Then she left for her higher studies and contact became less and less and then almost stopped. We reconnected in brief and she was very happy to see me again, but since we were in different cities and due to work pressure it wasn't like before. Still i tried to keep things alive but prob she was already involved with someone and couldn't give the same like before and then one day a mutual friend told me she is getting married and i felt angry as it should have come from her and why didn't she tell me about this when i had asked her about it many times before. And now idk why all of a sudden i am thinking of her so much when i know nothing is gonna happen.

It can be painful when a door closes. Moreso when someone else does the closing. It makes sense to be on your mind when I’m sure you have many questions left unanswered. Hopefully you can find your own closure. Time works wonders with that one.
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Yeah, i had accepted that probably her life path is different and maybe we aren't meant to be together prob even as friends. And with the news of her marriage i had even deleted her no. so that there is no more contact and moved on, i didn't even think of her all this while but now having thoughts of her, going through our past talks 7 years back and all. But maybe it is just a phase and will pass. Her birthday is coming up not sure if i should wish her or not. And funnily i am not thinking of her in a romantic way as that chapter is closed but maybe as a friend which i couldn't be then due to my feelings.
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Strange i see this post when i have been thinking about a friend for the past few days. She has been missing since last year lol when she got married and i got angry with her and before that also we weren't talking much before that but a few chats here and there but idk why suddenly i have been thinking of her alot lately like there is an urge to reconnect again like old times but i know it won't happen.

As for what friendship means to me is when we can be happy for the other person when good things happen to them and also when you need them they will be there, and sometimes even a checking up on someone is enough even when you can't be fully involved.

Were you guys strictly platonic or were there romantic feelings from one or both sides?

One side, mine and prob hence the anger.

Yeah... I figured. It makes total sense that she would distance herself, out of respect for her husband. What I don’t get is, if she knew how you felt and knew she didn’t reciprocate, why did she maintain your friendship to begin with? I mean, do you feel you were strung along or did she make it known she only cared for you as a friend?

Yes, we had a discussion about this where i told her i had feelings for her and she said she didn't but i she said i am her best friend. And we were fine with it. This was a long time back. Then she left for her higher studies and contact became less and less and then almost stopped. We reconnected in brief and she was very happy to see me again, but since we were in different cities and due to work pressure it wasn't like before. Still i tried to keep things alive but prob she was already involved with someone and couldn't give the same like before and then one day a mutual friend told me she is getting married and i felt angry as it should have come from her and why didn't she tell me about this when i had asked her about it many times before. And now idk why all of a sudden i am thinking of her so much when i know nothing is gonna happen.

It can be painful when a door closes. Moreso when someone else does the closing. It makes sense to be on your mind when I’m sure you have many questions left unanswered. Hopefully you can find your own closure. Time works wonders with that one.

Yeah, i had accepted that probably her life path is different and maybe we aren't meant to be together prob even as friends. And with the news of her marriage i had even deleted her no. so that there is no more contact and moved on, i didn't even think of her all this while but now having thoughts of her, going through our past talks 7 years back and all. But maybe it is just a phase and will pass. Her birthday is coming up not sure if i should wish her or not. And funnily i am not thinking of her in a romantic way as that chapter is closed but maybe as a friend which i couldn't be then due to my feelings.
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Is English your first language? Not trying to be rude, there’s just some contradictory statements in your posts and I’m trying to decide if it’s a language thing or true feelings vs brave face.

Like when you said, ā€œYeah, i had accepted that probably her life path is different and maybe we aren't meant to be together prob even as friends.ā€, it makes it sound like you still pine for her. Like what you really want is a romantic relationship. But then you say something like, ā€œAnd funnily i am not thinking of her in a romantic way as that chapter is closed but maybe as a friend which i couldn't be then due to my feelings.ā€.

Your internal struggle sounds complicated and conflicting and I hope you find your peace with it.
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Yes, I’ve had many ups and downs and me being an Aquarius I go hard for my friends like family. That means no matter what. The only friends I haven’t fell out with are cancer & capricorns. They know I don’t like to talk everyday and if I have a mood swing it’s all good still lol. The worst friends I’ve had were Taurus’s, EXTREMELY selfish, & other aqua’s lmao.
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Strange i see this post when i have been thinking about a friend for the past few days. She has been missing since last year lol when she got married and i got angry with her and before that also we weren't talking much before that but a few chats here and there but idk why suddenly i have been thinking of her alot lately like there is an urge to reconnect again like old times but i know it won't happen.

As for what friendship means to me is when we can be happy for the other person when good things happen to them and also when you need them they will be there, and sometimes even a checking up on someone is enough even when you can't be fully involved.

Were you guys strictly platonic or were there romantic feelings from one or both sides?

One side, mine and prob hence the anger.

Yeah... I figured. It makes total sense that she would distance herself, out of respect for her husband. What I don’t get is, if she knew how you felt and knew she didn’t reciprocate, why did she maintain your friendship to begin with? I mean, do you feel you were strung along or did she make it known she only cared for you as a friend?

Yes, we had a discussion about this where i told her i had feelings for her and she said she didn't but i she said i am her best friend. And we were fine with it. This was a long time back. Then she left for her higher studies and contact became less and less and then almost stopped. We reconnected in brief and she was very happy to see me again, but since we were in different cities and due to work pressure it wasn't like before. Still i tried to keep things alive but prob she was already involved with someone and couldn't give the same like before and then one day a mutual friend told me she is getting married and i felt angry as it should have come from her and why didn't she tell me about this when i had asked her about it many times before. And now idk why all of a sudden i am thinking of her so much when i know nothing is gonna happen.

It can be painful when a door closes. Moreso when someone else does the closing. It makes sense to be on your mind when I’m sure you have many questions left unanswered. Hopefully you can find your own closure. Time works wonders with that one.

Yeah, i had accepted that probably her life path is different and maybe we aren't meant to be together prob even as friends. And with the news of her marriage i had even deleted her no. so that there is no more contact and moved on, i didn't even think of her all this while but now having thoughts of her, going through our past talks 7 years back and all. But maybe it is just a phase and will pass. Her birthday is coming up not sure if i should wish her or not. And funnily i am not thinking of her in a romantic way as that chapter is closed but maybe as a friend which i couldn't be then due to my feelings.

Is English your first language? Not trying to be rude, there’s just some contradictory statements in your posts and I’m trying to decide if it’s a language thing or true feelings vs brave face.

Like when you said, ā€œYeah, i had accepted that probably her life path is different and maybe we aren't meant to be together prob even as friends.ā€, it makes it sound like you still pine for her. Like what you really want is a romantic relationship. But then you say something like, ā€œAnd funnily i am not thinking of her in a romantic way as that chapter is closed but maybe as a friend which i couldn't be then due to my feelings.ā€.

Your internal struggle sounds complicated and conflicting and I hope you find your peace with it.
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Well not first but i consider myself good enough to make coherent statements lol.

Yeah it might seem like that. It is just when we were close we were really close and i could be me with her. And then just the distance came in between. I won't lie, i did have some lingering romantic feelings prob till last year and wanted something but now maybe i just miss that presence itself.
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Sorry to hear about your loss!

As for the topic, you're asking a Saturn in 11th person about Friendship, so you all been warned.

I honestly only seek friendship/consider someone a friend when I can see myself wanting to invest in their life and help them grow to be greater than they already are when I met them. Otherwise they're acquaintances.

An example would be a scale I use to let people know how close they are to me:

Blood: If it's in my power to help you, I will. Donating my blood for a transfusion they need for example. If they vanish after that, I'm not crying because while I might have lost things I couldn't get back like time, honestly I lived my life by my beliefs and principles so self-esteem and respect is intact.

Bone Marrow: Getting this stuff taken outta of you is ***PAINFUL***. Hence, this level is reserved for friends I consider with going above and beyond for. I know my limits and what I can endure. I won't let pain stop me from helping them when they need it. I'll bare burdens with them and while reincorporation is highly valued, I don't act entitled to them returning my devotion at that level or in the same way.

Organ Donation: Bitch if I give your punk ass a kidney we are RIDE OR DIE. AT this level I have clear expectations and clear investment. Terminating the friendship at this stage would trigger the grieving process for me.

Life:: I consider you ass worth saving at the cost of my own. This level is reserved for close family, future spouse and kids. So if you manage to end up here and do me wrong, I will never forget the betrayal and they'll never reach this level with me again.

...so I take friendships seriously and thus I have a few friends that lasted years and plenty of good acquaintances. No rush to start a family or settle down because I know how fucking extreme I'd get about my family.
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I know a lot of people acquaintances and tons of buddies(you know the ones you hang out with regularly), but friends i have five, they are 25+ years friendships(I'm 31). They have changed a lot, we've fought, we've distanced at times, but never fallen out of or ghosted completely and us five still gather three or four times a year. Relationships, friendships or romantic ones are not made out of compatibilities like how much fun you have together, or the shared interests you may have.

It's about the bad times, the sticking together, the being there although you find them annoying sometimes, most of the times. It's about the memories and the respect you have for this moments.
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Sorry to hear about your loss!

As for the topic, you're asking a Saturn in 11th person about Friendship, so you all been warned.

I honestly only seek friendship/consider someone a friend when I can see myself wanting to invest in their life and help them grow to be greater than they already are when I met them. Otherwise they're acquaintances.

An example would be a scale I use to let people know how close they are to me:Blood: If it's in my power to help you, I will. Donating my blood for a transfusion they need for example. If they vanish after that, I'm not crying because while I might have lost things I couldn't get back like time, honestly I lived my life by my beliefs and principles so self-esteem and respect is intact.Bone Marrow: Getting this stuff taken outta of you is ***PAINFUL***. Hence, this level is reserved for friends I consider with going above and beyond for. I know my limits and what I can endure. I won't let pain stop me from helping them when they need it. I'll bare burdens with them and while reincorporation is highly valued, I don't act entitled to them returning my devotion at that level or in the same way.Organ Donation: Bitch if I give your punk ass a kidney we are RIDE OR DIE. AT this level I have clear expectations and clear investment. Terminating the friendship at this stage would trigger the grieving process for me.Life:: I consider you ass worth saving at the cost of my own. This level is reserved for close family, future spouse and kids. So if you manage to end up here and do me wrong, I will never forget the betrayal and they'll never reach this level with me again.

...so I take friendships seriously and thus I have a few friends that lasted years and plenty of good acquaintances. No rush to start a family or settle down because I know how fucking extreme I'd get about my family.

Thank you. And nice to see ya. It’s been awhile. 😊

I’m Pluto in the 11th. Different vibe, but I feel ya on the seriousness.
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Hey, guys. 40’s a few days away and it’s got me in my head about alot of stuff. It’s not the number, in and of itself, but 40 is the age my mom was when she had me and (as some of you know) she died in 2017. It’s got me thinking about life. Where I’m at, where I’m going, blah blah...

Anyway. I *thought* I had a close group of friends. If anything, we were too close and cliquey and incestuous, in that weird way close friends can be. Starting to date the Virgo put a strain on certain things. I only had so much time outside my home and my girls and I tried to consolidate hang time with all of them. Some friends pulled away.

2017 was a big year. Mom got sick, eventually passed and I lost my job when I left to take care of her. The friends felt even further away. 2018 and 19 were about settling into a new career. Months of shitty hours before finally getting to a place where I actually have free time here and there. Friends are now all but gone. People that I see and interact with so infrequently that even the FB algorithm doesn’t bother to show me their online lives, perfectly mimicking our irl ones.

I ā€œunfriendedā€ pretty much all of them the other day. If nothing else, it’s a symbolic thing and a small reminder to not beat myself up about it. People grow apart, after all. Not gonna lie though... I feel a little guilty about it. Which is the opposite of what I was going for! Wanted them to take up less head space, ya know?

This isn’t a pity party for me tho. I’m at one with my decision. This is a thread to vent, sure, but it’s also wondering how your friends and acquaintances have changed over time. Have you ever had to completely clean house? Are there people you thought would always be in your life, who are now only in the peripheral? Have you held onto toxic people for too long? Alternatively, are there people you’d counted out who came through for you when you needed it most?

Your turn. šŸ™‚

First I'm sorry to hear about your Mom. Losing someone is never easy, and even though we've all most likely experienced it with someone or more than one that is a big part of our life, it's still hard to come up with the right words because there are none. *hugs

How were your friends when you were going through all of that? I dont know if it was sudden or if you knew before hand, but I'm wondering mostly how they were after she passed.

I feel like friendship to me is being able to pick up wherever we left off as if there weren't any gaps. That doesnt work with everyone, and to be honest I've lost a lot of friends being that way. Some have stuck by my side since high school and earlier. 3 actually. The rest, I see some of them here and there when they're in town, and it's nice catching up. But I don't consider them best or close friends and the feeling is mutual I'm sure. It'snice to see them,and then we all carry on with our lives.

It's just drifting apart for one reason or another ime. There's nothing wrong with you making a life with your Virgo. And I feel like friends that truly care about you, and want you to be happy, will always stick by you even when things change and you can't meet up or talk as much. There should be some understanding and forgiveness. And some empathy. You've been through a lot.

I will always be there for a good friend even if they ignore me 90% of the time because of there new guy, new job, lost there job, whatever reason. It's just life. I can't deal with people who fault me for living mine when I want them to live there own.

An Aries friend did this recently, only wanted to spend with me when she was single. I was also there when she started seeing someone living with his ex and would call me at 2am drunk. Regurarly, lol.

She was definitely pre-occupied when she wasn't single anymore. And I was there for her. Then I didnt have much time for her. Kids, work and a guy are a lot to deal with, haha



Then I broke up with that Aries guy over a month ago, and she's nowhere to be found. So that's not a real friend to me.

I expect friends to disappear at times, it can't really be helped. So I hope for the same understanding when I'm really busy or pre-occupied. Sometimes I just need space from everyone.

And it's not the same as a romantic relationship. (Like if you really care you'd at least check in);Sometimes if you try to check in with everyone, do everything else and be everything else, you'll stretch yourself so thin you're no good to anyone.

So yes, I know what you mean about friends. And I am more forgiving because I'd want them to be that way for me.

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Sorry for the novel, lol

šŸ˜‚ It’s ok.

And agreed about the Aries. Sounds like she’s selfish and only uses you for a crutch.

Her death was such a weird day. My daughter put something about it on FB and one of my friends (who was old enough to know better) texted me. Maybe it’s just me, but when you live less than half a mile away, texting something like that is rude. What if by some strange turn my daughter found out before me and I had to find out something like that from an absentee friend’s text, that was more to make her feel better than it was for me?

But I digress. lol

Happened to see a handful of friends the night she passed. It was an event we’d all had scheduled for over 6mths and I was adamant I wanted to make it a normal day. Just pretend as if everything was fine and try to have a fun time, before the long trip for the funeral and the family and all of the hullabaloo. They hugged me, gave their I’m sorries, we had a good night and then it was never mentioned again. Like... ever.

I’m all for taking up where we left off. That’s been a common thread in people’s responses, including your own. One I wholeheartedly agree with! But the people I mentioned in the OP are ones that went from the closest of close to the absolute least of acquaintances. I’ve got their numbers and they have mine, but we’re not all gonna bounce back from that. Like I said, I *do* have more free time than I’ve had in years, so we’ll see what happens.

Oh! And I totally get what you mean about not always being able to check in, because of spreading yourself too thin. My 14yo is too old for a sitter, but she’s bi-polar schizophrenic, so I don’t like leaving her alone too much. Sometimes are better than others, but when things aren’t good, I’m a shut in for extended periods and very focused on her. I’m the first one to understand, sometimes life gets in the way of good intentions. 😊

Texting you was really wrong. That would bother me alot. Nowadays I feel like we've all gotten a little bit lazy with actually communicating. I text happy birthdsy to most of my family, then try to call at some point int he day. But I text to make sure I say something.

Thus is a different situation, so I would he bothered by that. You seem like you have a good head on your shoulders and you're strong. So good on you for that 😊

I'm sure it's not easy what you deal with day to day, but you're a good Mom for always putting her first. No one can blame you for that.

I feel like sometimes friends don't know how to react or handle situations like this, so they kind of disappear. My own family has done this to me.

We all have bad things we've been through, so I'm not trying to be a victim in any way. I hate when I was accused of acting like one by my sister.

I noticed every time things were really hard for me, they all stopped contacting me. And I never got mad or brought it up. It bothered me, but I kept it to myself. Some people just don't know what to say or do. Your friends might feel like that, like you have so much going on and they can't deal with it.

I find it kind of selfish when friends or family act this way when things get really difficult. I need my space, but when anyone needs me, or I feel like they do, that's when I would always make sure they know they can talk to me.
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Have a Scorpio friend, a Coast Guard wife. They move alot, but we always make time for one another. Great, wise lady. She once said, if we all threw our problems in a pile and could see what everyone else was dealing with, we’d pick our own problems back out of the pile.

And she’s right.

Dunno what I was hoping to accomplish by this thread, but I’ll pick my own problems back outta the pile. At least they’re familiar to me and manageable in small doses.

I’m sorry you’ve dealt with family in this manner. That’s the worst. You hafta love em even when ya hate em, ya know? This isn’t me trying to sound whatever, but Saturn is my ruler, and Saturn is a dick. It sucks always having to be the bigger person. It’s part of the reason why I finally went off script this time. šŸ˜‚

Anyway. Just saying. Best of luck to you too.