KidAmnesiac
@KidAmnesiac
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Am I Overthinking This?
When a reddit mod gets invited to a new years party
Just tell him that you’re feeling jealous/territorial and would rather it just be the two of you.
even if this isn’t romantic, friends get jealous of other friends
He invited you first and that’s that.
You don’t want to share
even if this isn’t romantic, friends get jealous of other friends
He invited you first and that’s that.
You don’t want to share
I had a better angle to use to get to him. She has a boyfriend and more than likely he wont know shes staying in a room with my friend.
And that basically if it gets discovered by the boyfriend that it happened, she might throw my under the bus by saying she got drunk and he took advantage of her to save her own skin
Ive been in a situation before where a woman who were not drunk went home with one of my friends. i was staying with him at the time since I was out of town visiting. They smashed. Then the next morning I hear them go at it again And all seemed okay at first.
But somehow the boyfriend found out, and she scammed him by saying she was drunk. And that my friend took advantage of her. He filed a police report and I had to talk on my friends behalf to the cops since I was there. The cops could tell there was something off with her and what I described to them.
So thankfully they dropped the charges against my friend. But he has never gone back out barhopping since. And stuck to meeting women on apps or during the day.
So experience has taught me to be prudent when women in an alcohol oriented environment were involved.
And that basically if it gets discovered by the boyfriend that it happened, she might throw my under the bus by saying she got drunk and he took advantage of her to save her own skin
Ive been in a situation before where a woman who were not drunk went home with one of my friends. i was staying with him at the time since I was out of town visiting. They smashed. Then the next morning I hear them go at it again And all seemed okay at first.
But somehow the boyfriend found out, and she scammed him by saying she was drunk. And that my friend took advantage of her. He filed a police report and I had to talk on my friends behalf to the cops since I was there. The cops could tell there was something off with her and what I described to them.
So thankfully they dropped the charges against my friend. But he has never gone back out barhopping since. And stuck to meeting women on apps or during the day.
So experience has taught me to be prudent when women in an alcohol oriented environment were involved.
I am confused why you are scared to be around drunk women. Are you not in control of your own bodily autonomy?
Seems fairly straightforward, don't fuck someone who is intoxicated and can't give consent. This is rape. Don't rape.
Seems fairly straightforward, don't fuck someone who is intoxicated and can't give consent. This is rape. Don't rape.
Posted by poppyflowerPosted by LadyNeptune
I am confused why you are scared to be around drunk women. Are you not in control of your own bodily autonomy?
Seems fairly straightforward, don't fuck someone who is intoxicated and can't give consent. This is rape. Don't rape.
It sounds like OP is worried about being blamed by women who'd pretend to be drunk, while having done nothing to warrant such blame.click to expand
He referenced his friend having sex with a drunk women who later pressed charges as the reason why he doesn't want this female friend to share the room. The simple and most obvious solution is to not fuck intoxicated people who can't give consent. Am I missing something?
Posted by ATGRPosted by LadyNeptune
I am confused why you are scared to be around drunk women. Are you not in control of your own bodily autonomy?
Seems fairly straightforward, don't fuck someone who is intoxicated and can't give consent. This is rape. Don't rape.
Is OP male or female? Either way they should get their own room.click to expand
Idk but I am questioning why their male friend is safe to spend the night in the room with them but their female friends aren't...
Just a teensy weensy suspect.
Posted by poppyflowerPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by poppyflowerPosted by LadyNeptune
I am confused why you are scared to be around drunk women. Are you not in control of your own bodily autonomy?
Seems fairly straightforward, don't fuck someone who is intoxicated and can't give consent. This is rape. Don't rape.
It sounds like OP is worried about being blamed by women who'd pretend to be drunk, while having done nothing to warrant such blame.
He referenced his friend having sex with a drunk women who later pressed charges as the reason why he doesn't want this female friend to share the room. The simple and most obvious solution is to not fuck intoxicated people who can't give consent. Am I missing something?
He referenced his friend having sex with a woman who were not drunk. When her boyfriend found out, she claimed she was drunk and that his friend took advantage of her.click to expand
His friend claims she wasn't drunk, she claims she was. They were out drinking so there is intoxication involved. And it defies logic to think op knows her intoxicated level more then she does. Its not just as simple as quantity consumed. Depends on your weight, age, how regularly you drink and when you last ate... all affects levels of intoxication.
Undermining the victims credibility is rapist defense 101.
I get why he would believe his friends version of events because loyalty. I'm inclined to give the victim the benefit of the doubt personally. Especially because of all the trauma you have to go through to press charges. Its no easy thing.
And again, all of this is a non-issue if op doesn't act like his friend and fuck people who are intoxicated. Be that with alcohol or any other drugs.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by ATGRPosted by LadyNeptune
I am confused why you are scared to be around drunk women. Are you not in control of your own bodily autonomy?
Seems fairly straightforward, don't fuck someone who is intoxicated and can't give consent. This is rape. Don't rape.
Is OP male or female? Either way they should get their own room.
Idk but I am questioning why their male friend is safe to spend the night in the room with them but their female friends aren't...
Just a teensy weensy suspect.click to expand
but this sounds serious. imagine if you're a guy and your friend was even allegedly involved in assault or anything even remotely connected to that (even without proof) and you know a situation of this nature might come up, probably best to avoid it.
like this cancer sun/virgo moon i was recently seeing had accidentally ran over 2 people in 2 different occasions. his driving always made me nervous. and he's never drove since then. he was jailed for some time over it but it made him not even want to be behind the wheel at all anymore.
Posted by virgoOPPPPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ATGRPosted by LadyNeptune
I am confused why you are scared to be around drunk women. Are you not in control of your own bodily autonomy?
Seems fairly straightforward, don't fuck someone who is intoxicated and can't give consent. This is rape. Don't rape.
Is OP male or female? Either way they should get their own room.
Idk but I am questioning why their male friend is safe to spend the night in the room with them but their female friends aren't...
Just a teensy weensy suspect.
but this sounds serious. imagine if you're a guy and your friend was even allegedly involved in assault or anything even remotely connected to that (even without proof) and you know a situation of this nature might come up, probably best to avoid it.
like this cancer sun/virgo moon i was recently seeing had accidentally ran over 2 people in 2 different occasions. his driving always made me nervous. and he's never drove since then. he was jailed for some time over it but it made him not even want to be behind the wheel at all anymore.click to expand
Yes exactly my point.
Your friend keeps hitting pedestrians when he drives. Solution: don't drive.
Op is worried he might be accused of rape if he fucks a woman who is intoxicated. Solution: don't fuck someone who is intoxicated.
This seems super obvious and simple to me.
Ladyneptune -
I am going to get into more specifics here. I was staying at my friends because I was visiting out of town. I was sleeping on the couch which is not that far from his room.
Two, it was definitely consensual because I saw her the next morning eating with him at a table after they smashed again for the 2nd time in the morning. She kissed him good bye as she left.
I dont know if you're a victim of assault or not. But I really am sorry that you experienced that if so. But the blindspot real sexual assault victims have is the reluctance to really acknowledge or call out the perpetrator when rape accusations can be refuted.
This dishonest behavior hurts real victims in the long run and needs to be examined. So someone else said I dont trust myself to be in control around intoxicated women WTF?
I guess some people live under a rock because some women NOT ALL weaponize their privlege So your telling me a woman that passes out drunk at a MALE friends place and wakes up the next morning wont immediately assume he didnt do something? Yeah right. I believe you should listen to a woman's side of things when it comes to matters of sexual assault.
But it doesnt mean you believe them right away until you have all of the information. Unfortunately you have SOME women that weaponize their privilege. I mean look at the stories of Emmitt Till, The lacrosse team. I know Jezebel may say otherwise, but not every man is a Harvey Weinstein, or Donald Trump. I successfully got my friend to have her stay separately after explaining what may happen.
Remember, my friends female has a boyfriend and unless they are swingers he would not be happy about her staying in a room with another man. And when a lot of women get caught in a lie, they rarely take accountability and always deflect as much as they can. I dont know why its so hard for women to believe that some in their own gender can be calculating and downright evil.
If I can acknowledge that some men can be toxic in terms of women which I know they can be then feminists can do that with their own gender. And there are women on social media platforms like instagram and tik tok who are liberal and not trump supporters that have acknowledged that some women can be really toxic in their behavior towards men. Lets stop the gender war nonsense and be critical thinkers for once.
I am going to get into more specifics here. I was staying at my friends because I was visiting out of town. I was sleeping on the couch which is not that far from his room.
Two, it was definitely consensual because I saw her the next morning eating with him at a table after they smashed again for the 2nd time in the morning. She kissed him good bye as she left.
I dont know if you're a victim of assault or not. But I really am sorry that you experienced that if so. But the blindspot real sexual assault victims have is the reluctance to really acknowledge or call out the perpetrator when rape accusations can be refuted.
This dishonest behavior hurts real victims in the long run and needs to be examined. So someone else said I dont trust myself to be in control around intoxicated women WTF?
I guess some people live under a rock because some women NOT ALL weaponize their privlege So your telling me a woman that passes out drunk at a MALE friends place and wakes up the next morning wont immediately assume he didnt do something? Yeah right. I believe you should listen to a woman's side of things when it comes to matters of sexual assault.
But it doesnt mean you believe them right away until you have all of the information. Unfortunately you have SOME women that weaponize their privilege. I mean look at the stories of Emmitt Till, The lacrosse team. I know Jezebel may say otherwise, but not every man is a Harvey Weinstein, or Donald Trump. I successfully got my friend to have her stay separately after explaining what may happen.
Remember, my friends female has a boyfriend and unless they are swingers he would not be happy about her staying in a room with another man. And when a lot of women get caught in a lie, they rarely take accountability and always deflect as much as they can. I dont know why its so hard for women to believe that some in their own gender can be calculating and downright evil.
If I can acknowledge that some men can be toxic in terms of women which I know they can be then feminists can do that with their own gender. And there are women on social media platforms like instagram and tik tok who are liberal and not trump supporters that have acknowledged that some women can be really toxic in their behavior towards men. Lets stop the gender war nonsense and be critical thinkers for once.
Posted by KidAmnesiac
Ladyneptune -
I am going to get into more specifics here. I was staying at my friends because I was visiting out of town. I was sleeping on the couch which is not that far from his room.
Two, it was definitely consensual because I saw her the next morning eating with him at a table after they smashed again for the 2nd time in the morning. She kissed him good bye as she left.
I dont know if you're a victim of assault or not. But I really am sorry that you experienced that if so. But the blindspot real sexual assault victims have is the reluctance to really acknowledge or call out the perpetrator when rape accusations can be refuted.
This dishonest behavior hurts real victims in the long run and needs to be examined. So someone else said I dont trust myself to be in control around intoxicated women WTF?
I guess some people live under a rock because some women NOT ALL weaponize their privlege So your telling me a woman that passes out drunk at a MALE friends place and wakes up the next morning wont immediately assume he didnt do something? Yeah right. I believe you should listen to a woman's side of things when it comes to matters of sexual assault.
But it doesnt mean you believe them right away until you have all of the information. Unfortunately you have SOME women that weaponize their privilege. I mean look at the stories of Emmitt Till, The lacrosse team. I know Jezebel may say otherwise, but not every man is a Harvey Weinstein, or Donald Trump. I successfully got my friend to have her stay separately after explaining what may happen.
Remember, my friends female has a boyfriend and unless they are swingers he would not be happy about her staying in a room with another man. And when a lot of women get caught in a lie, they rarely take accountability and always deflect as much as they can. I dont know why its so hard for women to believe that some in their own gender can be calculating and downright evil.
If I can acknowledge that some men can be toxic in terms of women which I know they can be then feminists can do that with their own gender. And there are women on social media platforms like instagram and tik tok who are liberal and not trump supporters that have acknowledged that some women can be really toxic in their behavior towards men. Lets stop the gender war nonsense and be critical thinkers for once.
The absolute nerve to use EMMETT Till to make your argument.
Leave him outta your crazy, judgmental pov
The audacity
Posted by KidAmnesiac
Ladyneptune -
I am going to get into more specifics here. I was staying at my friends because I was visiting out of town. I was sleeping on the couch which is not that far from his room.
Two, it was definitely consensual because I saw her the next morning eating with him at a table after they smashed again for the 2nd time in the morning. She kissed him good bye as she left.
I dont know if you're a victim of assault or not. But I really am sorry that you experienced that if so. But the blindspot real sexual assault victims have is the reluctance to really acknowledge or call out the perpetrator when rape accusations can be refuted.
This dishonest behavior hurts real victims in the long run and needs to be examined. So someone else said I dont trust myself to be in control around intoxicated women WTF?
I guess some people live under a rock because some women NOT ALL weaponize their privlege So your telling me a woman that passes out drunk at a MALE friends place and wakes up the next morning wont immediately assume he didnt do something? Yeah right. I believe you should listen to a woman's side of things when it comes to matters of sexual assault.
But it doesnt mean you believe them right away until you have all of the information. Unfortunately you have SOME women that weaponize their privilege. I mean look at the stories of Emmitt Till, The lacrosse team. I know Jezebel may say otherwise, but not every man is a Harvey Weinstein, or Donald Trump. I successfully got my friend to have her stay separately after explaining what may happen.
Remember, my friends female has a boyfriend and unless they are swingers he would not be happy about her staying in a room with another man. And when a lot of women get caught in a lie, they rarely take accountability and always deflect as much as they can. I dont know why its so hard for women to believe that some in their own gender can be calculating and downright evil.
If I can acknowledge that some men can be toxic in terms of women which I know they can be then feminists can do that with their own gender. And there are women on social media platforms like instagram and tik tok who are liberal and not trump supporters that have acknowledged that some women can be really toxic in their behavior towards men. Lets stop the gender war nonsense and be critical thinkers for once.
I think this has less to do with gender and more with discretion. Know the people you share a space with especially overnight. Some people are capable of worse things than I like to really think about. All you can do in life is CYA—Cover Your Ass. Be smart, and make good decisions.
Posted by KidAmnesiac
Ladyneptune -
I am going to get into more specifics here. I was staying at my friends because I was visiting out of town. I was sleeping on the couch which is not that far from his room.
Two, it was definitely consensual because I saw her the next morning eating with him at a table after they smashed again for the 2nd time in the morning. She kissed him good bye as she left.
I dont know if you're a victim of assault or not. But I really am sorry that you experienced that if so. But the blindspot real sexual assault victims have is the reluctance to really acknowledge or call out the perpetrator when rape accusations can be refuted.
This dishonest behavior hurts real victims in the long run and needs to be examined. So someone else said I dont trust myself to be in control around intoxicated women WTF?
I guess some people live under a rock because some women NOT ALL weaponize their privlege So your telling me a woman that passes out drunk at a MALE friends place and wakes up the next morning wont immediately assume he didnt do something? Yeah right. I believe you should listen to a woman's side of things when it comes to matters of sexual assault.
But it doesnt mean you believe them right away until you have all of the information. Unfortunately you have SOME women that weaponize their privilege. I mean look at the stories of Emmitt Till, The lacrosse team. I know Jezebel may say otherwise, but not every man is a Harvey Weinstein, or Donald Trump. I successfully got my friend to have her stay separately after explaining what may happen.
Remember, my friends female has a boyfriend and unless they are swingers he would not be happy about her staying in a room with another man. And when a lot of women get caught in a lie, they rarely take accountability and always deflect as much as they can. I dont know why its so hard for women to believe that some in their own gender can be calculating and downright evil.
If I can acknowledge that some men can be toxic in terms of women which I know they can be then feminists can do that with their own gender. And there are women on social media platforms like instagram and tik tok who are liberal and not trump supporters that have acknowledged that some women can be really toxic in their behavior towards men. Lets stop the gender war nonsense and be critical thinkers for once.
To be honest at first I was having doubts, but now it is clear to me: it is not safe for a female friend to stay with you and your friend in the same room. Try to persuade him not to do it.
Posted by Wizardz_Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by virgoOPPPPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ATGRPosted by LadyNeptune
I am confused why you are scared to be around drunk women. Are you not in control of your own bodily autonomy?
Seems fairly straightforward, don't fuck someone who is intoxicated and can't give consent. This is rape. Don't rape.
Is OP male or female? Either way they should get their own room.
Idk but I am questioning why their male friend is safe to spend the night in the room with them but their female friends aren't...
Just a teensy weensy suspect.
but this sounds serious. imagine if you're a guy and your friend was even allegedly involved in assault or anything even remotely connected to that (even without proof) and you know a situation of this nature might come up, probably best to avoid it.
like this cancer sun/virgo moon i was recently seeing had accidentally ran over 2 people in 2 different occasions. his driving always made me nervous. and he's never drove since then. he was jailed for some time over it but it made him not even want to be behind the wheel at all anymore.
Yes exactly my point.
Your friend keeps hitting pedestrians when he drives. Solution: don't drive.
Op is worried he might be accused of rape if he fucks a woman who is intoxicated. Solution: don't fuck someone who is intoxicated.
This seems super obvious and simple to me.
Not really
What level of intoxication are we talking? How intoxicated will he be?
So they both have a few drinks and end up sleeping together. Not like that's happened a billion times before
If she's wasted and can't stand up that's one thing but if they have a few drinks so inhibitions drop (I've heard alcohol can do that) and they end up having sex then that's a completely different scenario.click to expand
Any level of intoxication. Because are you willing to bet that what someone consumes in front of you is the only alcohol in their system? What about drugs, prescribed or otherwise, that mix with the "few drinks".
There are now roofies that have you completely fucked up and incoherent but you appear responsive.
Too many moving parts for me. Best to wait until both parties are sober and able to give clear consent. Especially in op's situation and mentality.
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