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"Insecure men who are threatened by women who could possibly be their equal, yes."

Yea I know what u mean

My aqua bro told me once his wife is a really good person, but she is not smart.. he said it to me in a sad way and I never said anything, I just know what he want
He just want someone smart like him .. and he was right cuz his wife feel that I was too close and it's wrong :/
And she did every thing she can to make him hate me.
I know now what he means when he told me she is not smart and she does not understand him.
Man, out of curiosity, I googled "dating dumb" and so many articles came up in regard to men dating dumb women. One in particular was a guy basically confirming it's all for the male ego. Gotta have that lesser person who makes your fragile ego feel so manly.

But I loved all the comments to the article- real men who were like, "yeah you're a fucking tool. I want a smart woman. You're just an insecure dick." Haha.

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Is she hot or pretty because that trumps intellect for men? You know this though. I have numerous men confirm the obvious to me every single day. In fact, recently, all these men, I work with,were joking and laughing amongst themselves about how smart women are nice to talk to and have flings with, but for marriage dumb women are their choice because they aren't intimidating and a lot of their stupid shit they pull is acceptable because dumb women don't realize what happen to actually call them out. I was just shaking my head while laughing as I was listening to this. Explains why all of these men ironically put down marriage and talk bad about their wives.
NO. I was waiting for someone to ask me this because it's what adds to the bafflement of that situation. She is not all that attractive either. It's terrible when the girl is hot but dumb, but it does sort of explain why a guy would tolerate it. Some are that superficial.

Your example you gave is kind of backwards. Of the articles I just came across, many of the guys piping up in the comments section (and in some of the article topics) placed dumb women as good lays or ones to date, but not ones to settle down with. That's what I've usually heard from guys as well. The examples you gave are total trolls though. I have heard a few flip it like that, but they're insecure douchebags that shouldn't be allowed to reproduce.
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Oh, I hear the opposite too all the time and in fact I believed at one point that men go for the dumb kind for flings/one night stand but want smart for marriage, but after observing quite a fe
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In fact get your Virgo to cook for you, just say what your favourite dish is and it will be cooked to perfection
Lol
Virgo will follow instructions to the letter to get it right and if it is wrong will throw it in the bin or pour it down the sink and have another go, of course if after tasting it, it tastes OK then it may be served up and they will be clever enough to say that they improvised a bit to obtain this wonderful dish or give it another name or something.

Of course do not ask what the dish is as it may offend, just enjoy it and the fine wine that accompanies it, and then read an erotic novel afterwards 😉
When it comes to food you need more than just a perfect execution of a recipe.

From my experience there's often something missing in their dish.
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Depends upon your perception of the recipe, if you enjoy it why change it?

If it was not enjoyed then most likley it will have already been modified or it is not to be cooked again.

Of course I am always up for some interpretation and modifying recipes as and when I see fit.

As an example if you tell me that your favourite meal is a curry, say a Chicken Tikka Masala, I have know idea how to cook this, as I have never cooked this before (from scratch), so I'd follow a recipe, that presumably you had given to me.
Out of curiosity in such an instance which star sign would you trust the most to producxe exactly according to the recipe you have provided what you want? no doubt an Earth sign and most likely a Virgo 😉

But you may then say, that chicken needs to marinate for several hours, I'm hungry now, can you make me an omelette, of course and I would not need a recpie to follow, as I know the basics, I would though want to know whether or not you wanted anything with it, for instance cheese and ham, it would therefore be down to my own perception of what you wanted as to what you get but I would not need a recipe book for it.
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You don't know that men love dumb woman ?
Or let's say prefer to marry her .

dumb people are happy.
It's god gift for them.
Insecure men who are threatened by women who could possibly be their equal, yes.
Whoa! I know that argument was made @Hrukaa, but let's grab a brush that is not so broad, to paint with?

There really isn't an equality issue here. The problem is the assumption that a guy who is with the dingbat immediately has insecurity issues, or is intimidated by women of equal or higher intellect. That's very judgmental.

Equality in a relationship isn't measured by intellect. Or rather, not on intellect alone. Equality is obtained by complementary differences, and harmonious similarities. Understanding each other's needs, willingness to compromise, and equal give and take. One's capacity to love, feel, and express themselves and the other's ability to understand those things. There is so much more than just intellect that goes into the equality of a relationship.

I've seen a-many intellectual woman get passed up for the bubbly pretty girl. I know how much it makes steam come out of their ears, especially if it's a guy they're interested in. They believe that they have SO MUCH more to offer than those girls.

... do you really?

Intellectual women are warriors. They take on the world with their emotions protected under their armor, and wield words as weapons. These women are certainly appreciable, and many are VERY attractive to boot. When you come home though, he wants you to put down your cerebral weapons and armor and attend to HIM, not the world. He needs your laugh, your smile, your gentleness, your femininity. The occasional Jeopardy opponent is welcome, but usually not every night.
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"Broad?"

Sweetcheeks, that was directed at insecure men. Argument fail.
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No problem lisabethur8, I should really not post whilst drunk as it may come across as me trolling, not my intention, I had only posted the info about Aqua as I have my moon placement there 😉 so had a counter argument to Aquastatic.

But as I said previously if your needs and desires are not understood by your partner then misunderstanding occurs no matter how intelligent the other person is and the relationship is doomed to failure.

I am sure that it is my Virgo sun placement that is making me remove all the typo's form my posts... would hate to come across as not being able to type lol...
Yes!
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Wanted to add, I try not to point out the flaws in others in regards to what may or may not be intellegence, who is equiped to make those types of assessments on another person? Certainly not me, certainly not most on DXP LMAO

I know my insecurites in regards to how i appear with the written word, my writting makes me appear to be challenged. Grammatical errors out the ass, along with my dyslexia flipping letters left and right. I just hope others aren't passing judgement and realize that sometimes shit CAN"T be helped or I'm to lazy to "fix" the errors or use the ' in certain places. No matter how many times I preview.. I still miss stuff. 🙂
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INTELLIGENT POPLE DON’T BRAG HOW SMART THEY ARE
OR CALL OTHER PEOPLE DUMB. MY FATHER ONCE ME
“NO MATTER IF A PERSON IS INTELLIGENT OR DUMB
WHEN YOU LAY WITH THEM YOU BECOME HER EQUAL”
SO NO MATTER HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THEM,
IT’S ALSO A REFLECTION OF YOU YOURSELF.


NOW IF YOU REALLY WANT AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, WHY DON’T YOU ASK A NEUROPHYSISIST, OR AN IVY LEAGUE GRADUATE IF THEY WOULD DATE YOU?? OH, AND LETS NOT FORGET THAT EVERYTHING IN LIFE IS RELATIVE.

JUST A THOUGHT!
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Wanted to add, I try not to point out the flaws in others in regards to what may or may not be intellegence, who is equiped to make those types of assessments on another person? Certainly not me, certainly not most on DXP LMAO

I know my insecurites in regards to how i appear with the written word, my writting makes me appear to be challenged. Grammatical errors out the ass, along with my dyslexia flipping letters left and right. I just hope others aren't passing judgement and realize that sometimes shit CAN"T be helped or I'm to lazy to "fix" the errors or use the ' in certain places. No matter how many times I preview.. I still miss stuff. 🙂
You always come across as very intelligent to me. 🙂

I make a LOT of typos on this site, more than I do anywhere else! My brain doesn't interact well with the interface at all, lol.
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I just read your posts and couldn't help but smile. You are insecure intellectually and are making this post to soothe your insecurity. Most intelligent people i know don't make posts like this. They are busy displaying their intelligence and not on astrology websites ranting about how inferior other people are.. The vast majority of your posts on dxp are emo pm's ranting that makes little to no sense. You are just a overly emotional chick who is trying to act hard(intellectually) This is all very clear just observing your comments.

back to the original question...........

I always put personality above intelligence. It's important for my partner to have a good personality and basically good heart. This is the fundamental thing i look for first. Second would be intelligence. I am most impressed with practical intelligence as opposed to savants or overly abstract type of intellect.

I think this is foundation for a good relationship. People who over emphasize intelligence are very suspect...........and since i am quite shrewd i can see through fake blowhards very quickly.
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Wanted to add, I try not to point out the flaws in others in regards to what may or may not be intellegence, who is equiped to make those types of assessments on another person? Certainly not me, certainly not most on DXP LMAO

I know my insecurites in regards to how i appear with the written word, my writting makes me appear to be challenged. Grammatical errors out the ass, along with my dyslexia flipping letters left and right. I just hope others aren't passing judgement and realize that sometimes shit CAN"T be helped or I'm to lazy to "fix" the errors or use the ' in certain places. No matter how many times I preview.. I still miss stuff. 🙂
You always come across as very intelligent to me. 🙂

I make a LOT of typos on this site, more than I do anywhere else! My brain doesn't interact well with the interface at all, lol.
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thanks Copper, i fixed my post 4 times after posting it lololol Perhaps i worry too much about it.


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That's not funny.

Thank God your parents didn't teach you that *gived*

is a word.

Idk wtf is wrong with some of you.
Yes, I've known a lot of people who grew up hearing words like that so now they use them because they seem normal to them. I have a few friends who I consider to be very intelligent who make mistakes like that sometimes.

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I'm nodding, yes... there are so many different kinds of intelligence.

Emotional intelligence, for one-- some people will never have it. *






* I am admittedly a work in progress-- I take almost everything personally. 😄

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Wanted to add, I try not to point out the flaws in others in regards to what may or may not be intellegence, who is equiped to make those types of assessments on another person? Certainly not me, certainly not most on DXP LMAO

I know my insecurites in regards to how i appear with the written word, my writting makes me appear to be challenged. Grammatical errors out the ass, along with my dyslexia flipping letters left and right. I just hope others aren't passing judgement and realize that sometimes shit CAN"T be helped or I'm to lazy to "fix" the errors or use the ' in certain places. No matter how many times I preview.. I still miss stuff. 🙂
You always come across as very intelligent to me. 🙂

I make a LOT of typos on this site, more than I do anywhere else! My brain doesn't interact well with the interface at all, lol.
thanks Copper, i fixed my post 4 times after posting it lololol Perhaps i worry too much about it.


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I've fixed posts that many times too, so I understand! lol! 🙂 I'm glad there's an edit function, even though it is hard to work with.

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That's not funny.

Thank God your parents didn't teach you that *gived*

is a word.

Idk wtf is wrong with some of you.
Yes, I've known a lot of people who grew up hearing words like that so now they use them because they seem normal to them. I have a few friends who I consider to be very intelligent who make mistakes like that sometimes.
I'm nodding, yes... there are so many different kinds of intelligence.

Emotional intelligence, for one-- some people will never have it. *






* I am admittedly a work in progress-- I take almost everything personally. 😄

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Completely agree. Emotional intelligence is hugely helpful when interacting with people.

I'm a work in progress too. I can do a good poker face to hide hurt if I need to, but it still hurts!
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Interesting observation about written language skills, from http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/howdoyouknow.shtml

"When I taught English composition, instructors were told that they must grade according to a standard scoring system for errors of grammar, punctuation, spelling, and diction. Our success was seen in terms of the number of freshmen who had dropped out by the end of the year, as evidence that the department had “high standards.”

Knowing that system, most students chose to write in the style of the first grade “See Spot run” readers, hoping that they could handle the mechanics of writing if they reduced the complexity and content of their essays. It didn't work, and they didn't improve during the weeks when their mistakes were being brought painfully to their attention.

Since I hated reading their meaningless efforts, I told them that I was going to grade them on content, rather than punctuation and spelling, and that they should try to write about something that was important to them. Only their success in communicating something would be graded.

Their papers became more readable, and the interesting thing was that the mechanical things improved immediately. (The intention to communicate something is the real source of structure in language.) I had another teacher score some of their compositions, and he confirmed that they had improved according to the department's system.

The attempt to steer a person can make it hard for them to move, because it inactivates their own guidance system."
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I think the speaker here is talking about people who can't think, those who don't use common sense.I don't think he/she is necessarily worried about grammar. Intelligence is not measured by how good your spelling is or how many degrees you hold, but it's how well you understand situations, how is your decision making, and unfortunately there are people who are born without those characters.
I think OP may be crushing on said guy... nothing else

really explains the cattiness.
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You don't know that men love dumb woman ?
Or let's say prefer to marry her .

dumb people are happy.
It's god gift for them.
Insecure men who are threatened by women who could possibly be their equal, yes.
Whoa! I know that argument was made @Hrukaa, but let's grab a brush that is not so broad, to paint with?

There really isn't an equality issue here. The problem is the assumption that a guy who is with the dingbat immediately has insecurity issues, or is intimidated by women of equal or higher intellect. That's very judgmental.

Equality in a relationship isn't measured by intellect. Or rather, not on intellect alone. Equality is obtained by complementary differences, and harmonious similarities. Understanding each other's needs, willingness to compromise, and equal give and take. One's capacity to love, feel, and express themselves and the other's ability to understand those things. There is so much more than just intellect that goes into the equality of a relationship.

I've seen a-many intellectual woman get passed up for the bubbly pretty girl. I know how much it makes steam come out of their ears, especially if it's a guy they're interested in. They believe that they have SO MUCH more to offer than those girls.

... do you really?

Intellectual women are warriors. They take on the world with their emotions protected under their armor, and wield words as weapons. These women are certainly appreciable, and many are VERY attractive to boot. When you come home though, he wants you to put down your cerebral weapons and armor and attend to HIM, not the world. He needs your laugh, your smile, your gentleness, your femininity. The occasional Jeopardy opponent is welcome, but usually not every night.
"Broad?"

Sweetcheeks, that was directed at insecure men. Argument fail.
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I can be insecure for the sake of argument 😉
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I love Mercury in Virgo in my friends who have it. Analytical at it's finest meaning it isn't just conceptual, it has practical applications.
I am so tired of being right all the time. *sigh*

jk. yeah. It is a godly placement. I rarely praise other signs but when i do i mean it. I guess because virgos are so humble and they get a lot of heat on here. I notice people with that placement rarely even realize how sharp their mind is. They are just so service oriented and try to be helpful. Very inspirational folks really.

Libras,virgos and leos have access to this goldmine.
My friends with this placement are definitely humble about their intelligence. They don't seem to realize how brilliant they can be. They are both Leos.


omg i dont really want too much humbleness in my man. I want CONFIDENCE out the ying yang. lol

so when i tell my man he's the most smartest ever, and kiss that brain of his, he gushes!!!!! eats it up. and says YUP. you got it!!! 😄 😄
Too much isn't good, I agree. Those friends are confident with many things, but their critical mind makes them less likely to be complacent about their abilities, you could say. There is always a way to improve and learn more and they're aware of that.
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well my man is a genius but he doesn't "activiate" or "mentally stimulates" himself as much as he'd like. He told me he doesn't really care about stimulating that brain alot, so he told me that his I.Q. has probably gone down a couple notches or that he won't allow his I.Q. to go UP. At middle school,high school he was tested at above 145. Which is genius level. Genius level is anywhere above 140. My last ex was even higher, at least around 155. I can tell too. lol honestly i can. But he kept his mental stimulation active. He could read into things, learn a program and create it easily. Can learn a language very easily. I dont have that skill. I'm just lacking in that department but i have creative skills.
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I have a hard time understanding this because dumb people are a total turn off to me. Ignorant about stuff is one thing, but literally a DUMB person who is just... gah.

I know of someone who's been dating this chick. She's nice enough, but she's fucking stupid, man. It's hard to keep a convo with her because she essentially has the conversation skills of a kindergartener. She also cannot speak properly nor can she understand basic concepts of anything, really. She's mid 20s and doesn't seem to want to grow up beyond high school mentality of life. I think he gets off on having someone "lesser" than him because it makes his ego feel so high and mighty that he's smarter and can always tell her things and impress her with his intelligence.

Example of something she said today "I gived it to him."

...If someone is nice enough, I generally will overlook the dumb because they're just so sweet so it's like okay whatever. But I could NOT be in a relationship with that. I'd feel like I'd have to constantly babysit someone like that because they need adult supervision at all times due to their lack of common sense. Nevermind I find stupid a total turn off, so it's not like I would even get as far as considering a relationship, you know?

What's your take on people's intelligence and the role it plays in your relationships? Would you even have a relationship with someone who was really dumb?
I could. as weird as it sounds, I don't need a mental sparring partner, I need someone who will love me for me. And the same the other way around. If shes sweet and loyal and tries her best, yeah so what if she's not bright? Sometimes people aren't the sharpest, but sometimes it gives a bit of a innocence and its refreshing at times.... too much ego and knowledge can bog your heart in my opinion.
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for myself, as a woman i love a man with a STRONG EGO.

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You don't know that men love dumb woman ?
Or let's say prefer to marry her .

dumb people are happy.
It's god gift for them.
Insecure men who are threatened by women who could possibly be their equal, yes.
Whoa! I know that argument was made @Hrukaa, but let's grab a brush that is not so broad, to paint with?

There really isn't an equality issue here. The problem is the assumption that a guy who is with the dingbat immediately has insecurity issues, or is intimidated by women of equal or higher intellect. That's very judgmental.

Equality in a relationship isn't measured by intellect. Or rather, not on intellect alone. Equality is obtained by complementary differences, and harmonious similarities. Understanding each other's needs, willingness to compromise, and equal give and take. One's capacity to love, feel, and express themselves and the other's ability to understand those things. There is so much more than just intellect that goes into the equality of a relationship.

I've seen a-many intellectual woman get passed up for the bubbly pretty girl. I know how much it makes steam come out of their ears, especially if it's a guy they're interested in. They believe that they have SO MUCH more to offer than those girls.

... do you really?

Intellectual women are warriors. They take on the world with their emotions protected under their armor, and wield words as weapons. These women are certainly appreciable, and many are VERY attractive to boot. When you come home though, he wants you to put down your cerebral weapons and armor and attend to HIM, not the world. He needs your laugh, your smile, your gentleness, your femininity. The occasional Jeopardy opponent is welcome, but usually not every night.
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very true.
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I think the speaker here is talking about people who can't think, those who don't use common sense.I don't think he/she is necessarily worried about grammar. Intelligence is not measured by how good your spelling is or how many degrees you hold, but it's how well you understand situations, how is your decision making, and unfortunately there are people who are born without those characters.
I think OP may be crushing on said guy... nothing else

really explains the cattiness.
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Oh honey, you look like a really, really dumb twat here.

Big ol' lol.
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I think the speaker here is talking about people who can't think, those who don't use common sense.I don't think he/she is necessarily worried about grammar. Intelligence is not measured by how good your spelling is or how many degrees you hold, but it's how well you understand situations, how is your decision making, and unfortunately there are people who are born without those characters.
I think OP may be crushing on said guy... nothing else

really explains the cattiness.
Oh honey, you look like a really, really dumb twat here.

Big ol' lol.
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For pointing out the obvious?

I don't think so.


That's got to sting, though.... she really gived you a complex.


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My father is highly intelligent. Genius level, and he has practical knowledge and thinks for himself and has a heart. Cool combo, and rather rare. He prefers intelligent partners with the other traits I listed that apply to him. They don't have to match him IQ point for point - that isn't what it's about - but he wants to be understood when conversing, at the very least.
“A mathematician is not a man who can readily manipulate figures; often he cannot. He is primarily an individual who is skilled in the use of symbolic logic on a high plane, and especially he is a man of intuitive judgment.” - Vannevar Bush
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I like that. It fits!
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My father is highly intelligent. Genius level, and he has practical knowledge and thinks for himself and has a heart. Cool combo, and rather rare. He prefers intelligent partners with the other traits I listed that apply to him. They don't have to match him IQ point for point - that isn't what it's about - but he wants to be understood when conversing, at the very least.
“A mathematician is not a man who can readily manipulate figures; often he cannot. He is primarily an individual who is skilled in the use of symbolic logic on a high plane, and especially he is a man of intuitive judgment.” - Vannevar Bush
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that man has got a freaking grand air trine, with mercury aquarius, as one of the air,
despite water sun & moon.

sounds like my grandfather......

genius at math but zzzzzzz. 😆

love my grandpa though..

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@Akumo

I don't think it necessarily applies to Virguys, who could potentially be amazing cooks if they want to, it's something I've always noticed in the other gender more often.

Imagine playing a sport.

I can't say, for instance, Blake Griffin isn't a great basketball player but I could say he lacks the feeling for the game, which is ultimately what makes the difference.

Now it doesn't look to me like cooking is something that comes natural to them, it's not a matter of following a recipe to the letter (you don't necessarily have to modify it either), putting your own twist goes beyond execution, it's passion and love. Virgos, and I obviously don't want to generalize, never fully empathize with the food they're cooking even if they really love you.

Another thing: why would you ask your partner to cook something you like with a recipe you've given them? I give them freedom to express, cook whatever you want. When you cook for me (a rare occasion considering I'm pretty much always in the mood for cooking, especially if my partner is around) it's not the food I'm ultimately interested in eating during supper, it's you, and Virgos' dishes don't usually taste of Virgo.