Why is he so rude to me?

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The guy in question is a Leo and I'm a virgo, we both got scorpio moons. I'm starting to believe the stuff I read now on how incompatible they are. 🤔



We've been dating for about a year on and off. Sometimes he's ok, other times the things he does and says are questionable.



We went on holiday together, he organised the whole thing since prior to that I wasn't happy with him and was pretty much ignoring him for a month. He said let's start again and it can be a new chapter, so I agreed to go away with him.



Since we got back i've just been analysing and questioning why to put it mildly he's such a d**k



First day was good, we got on fine. Then he started doing and saying somethings which were out of order and pretty much made me not want to be there with him.

1. everywhere we went he would leave me trailing behind him trying to catch up, he would just walk and not even consider if im behind him or not. one time I lost him and spent about half an hour contemplating if I should go just end the day and go back to the hotel or carry on looking for him. Only for him to come out and say he's been watching me going up n down the whole time, much to his amusement. I didn't find that very funny.



2. We went to one of the hotel nights, he found a nerdy looking guy and said that guy is you. Why don't you go chat him up, he said it jokingly. when I said ok then I will he suddenly changed and said he doubts he would give you me a chance anyway since the women he's been dancing with are of a different level, implying im unattractive in comparison. 🤕😨



3. He also was sitting there all moody simply because I didn't have a drink with him at that bar



4. This was probably the worst one and put me in a bad mood all day to the point I didn't even want to dress up or anything, I was actually nearly in tears but I hid it.

We got up headed to breakfast at the hotel, granted I was too tired to make an effort like I do usually when I go out out.

so its a buffet breakfast where there's hundreds of people and he sat there making comment after comment about my appearance, to the point where I felt absolutely self conscious.

he's lik so I woke up today to find out you have a double chin 😨, how did you hide it so well all this time. im actually slim and people are constantly saying Iv got a good figure . he's like someone's been eating a bit too much.

I defended myself.and said you need to get.an eye test, he was like if only you could see yourself right now. ( implying how terrible I look).

I said I could always count on you for a compliment, he's like if there's anything to compliment I would. and by the way he never compliments me anyway, ever.



For me that was the icing on the cake and the rest of the holiday I just kept going through his scathing words and couldn't comprehend his rudeness.

I'm used to strangers and everyone I know always saying how beautiful I am and how pretty I am and the person I decide to spend most my time with keeps attacking my appearance. 😐



The reason I didn't go over all that with him is simply because I just wanted to appear tough as if it didnt bother me. but really it's the opposite.



Oh yeh and another thing, on the journey home he ws driving me in his car and he started making jokes about how people look in my area and I threw a scrunched up piece of paper at him in a playful way, he then switched and very aggressively threw it back and told me to pick it up, pick it up now. when I did he said good you're learning how to be disciplined.



I'm always nice to him but his level of disrespect is just getting to me now but at the same time I don't want to act like it got to me so instead ill just end up avoiding him. SINCE we got back he's been messaging me n iv not replied.



What do you guys think
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Posted by ayla13
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He's a dick and you should punch him in the balls and tell him to treetrunk off!!




The end!



LOL!! you're right you know. I think because I treat him good, his rudeness just catches me off guard and I'm like wth did he just say and instead of saying anything then and there it just brews click to expand
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Maybe that's why he does it...he trying to get a reaction from you. He probably gets off on fighting and arguing.
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An extract from the link above:

"He’s stressed? Well! There you are, a punching bag. Enjoy your beating. (If it’s not physical abuse, it doesn’t count in his mind. Good luck getting him to accept that there is such a thing as verbal and psychological abuse.) He’ll feel a lot better after degrading you. He’ll then act as if nothing is wrong and fail to accept that he just treated you horribly. In his mind, his horrid ways of treating you are not a problem. You should just accept that. If you have any self-respect, you won’t. It’s an unlivable arrangement. "
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Wtf.

You better not ever speak to that bleep again.
hmmm hes been messaging me as normal I just havnt been replying. 😅 click to expand



I'm serious.

That guy is a narcissistic piece of butter, and it won't ever get better only worse. So gtfo while you're still strong. click to expand
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iv managed to put up with him for a few years now, God knows how. its only now I'm gettin really tired of him
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Posted by Undine
An extract from the link above:



"He’s stressed? Well! There you are, a punching bag. Enjoy your beating. (If it’s not physical abuse, it doesn’t count in his mind. Good luck getting him to accept that there is such a thing as verbal and psychological abuse.) He’ll feel a lot better after degrading you. He’ll then act as if nothing is wrong and fail to accept that he just treated you horribly. In his mind, his horrid ways of treating you are not a problem. You should just accept that. If you have any self-respect, you won’t. It’s an unlivable arrangement. "

I honestly thought he was narcissistic well before this thread.

another sign is, he would follow women after women on instagram maybe trying to get validation elsewhere who knows. I was always ttying to figure out why he did that and only recently he's stopped his bad social media habits.
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Posted by RooSagicorn
Did you call him out on his behavior on vacation? Never put up with this type of treatment. Walk away. Block him. Tell him to treetrunk off. Which ever works.
I did defend myself, when he said I have a double chin I said u can say whatever you want about me I won't think any less off myself but he just carried on and on and on.

about him walking off and me losing him he kept trying to get me to "admit" I was distressed without him but I told him I was fine without him even when I got lost.but it's like he wanted me to say I was upset and how relieved I was when he came back but I just didn't.
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He's a dick and you should punch him in the balls and tell him to treetrunk off!!




The end!
LOL!! you're right you know. I think because I treat him good, his rudeness just catches me off guard and I'm like wth did he just say and instead of saying anything then and there it just brews click to expand



Maybe that's why he does it...he trying to get a reaction from you. He probably gets off on fighting and arguing. click to expand
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if u do react what he'l do is tell me to chill out and relax even though he's the one who started it all. so he will provoke me, tries to get a reaction, when he does.get a reaction he will act lik im crazy and tell me to calm down, even though he's the fool who started it
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Posted by femme
Wow. I’d cuss him out, then disappear into the wind never to be seen or heard from again.



I don’t know if you plan on seeing this guy again, but please call him out on his butterty behavior. Let him know his words are abusive and that you’re no doormat.


Well when he commented on my apearance I did say I don't care what he says im happy as I am and don't believe what he says but he just carried on with the comments regardless.

like when i said sarcastically I knew I could count on u for a compliment he then goes if ther was anything to compliment I would but there isn't. 😨
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Posted by Undine
He sounds very much like a narcissist in the devaluing phase. Read about them on Quora.



They lack empathy, meaning they don't really know how their behaviour make you feel, and they really don't care about your feelings. All they care is their satisfaction. Once they discover that making you suffer gives them satisfaction, they will do it again. And again. And again.





yeh if he was a decent person he would not have even made those.comments or would at lesat have felt bad but he didn't seem.to care he.just went on and on trying to humiliate me.

however I didn't show him that what he did bothered me. I kept it to myself.

Oh I forgot to say that night he tried to get physical but I showed him no interest and he was like come on at least show you're interested...and the same happened the night after
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Posted by ayla13
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narcissistic



He is obviously extremely insecure and is trying to bring you down with it.



Please do not put up with this.



Drop his ass and call it a day



if it wss anyone else I would have done a long time ago. but with him I guess I tried to make it work because iv known him for years and it's an effort starting out with someone else all over again click to expandclick to expandclick to expand
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It’s better to start new with someone else or even be alone than to deal with the mental abuse.

Are you guys married or have children together?
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This isn't love. A loving person wouldn't go out of his way to hurt/insult you. I can tell you right now, that not only is this guy a manipulative control freak, he's also vengeful. He's breaking you down as payback for ignoring him for a month. As he said he's "training" you to become more disciplined. This guy is so arrogant that he actually TOLD you that he's manipulating you. This is a toxic situation and you need to leave.

I understand that Virgos don't give up easily once invested and they believe that they can fix any situation. However this is not a situation you can fix for a couple of reasons:

1. Manipulative people employ these tactics to break you down, in order to build themselves up. He's trying to make you emotionally dependent on him, so that you'll never consider leaving/hurting him. He's using this as a control tactic while denying that he's doing anything wrong. This make you feel like the guilty party and seemingly absolved him in the process. This guy may be too immature to know exactly what he's doing, but that's definitely the effect he's having on you.

2. When a Leo starts taking the steps to hurt you or make an example of you, it's generally too late for the relationship. Whatever love he had for you is gone. Leos deal with anger in a few different ways. However the worst way is when we become spiteful. Granted emotionally immature Leos will do this for attention. However if a Leo flips that switch and starts toying/hurting with you, it's never a good thing. That means he feels justified in hurting you.

Usually a Leo will hold back when angry, not wanting to cause you pain or create a hostile situation. We often side step our own anger and push it away. When we mature we also learn to talk out our frustrations. A Leo who doesn't learn to do this though may resort to vengeance, manipulation, even violence. So it's definitely time for you to leave.

You can try talking to him like an adult to clear the air. My concern is that if the Leo has gone this far once, he may go further later.
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Posted by ayla13
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He's a dick and you should punch him in the balls and tell him to treetrunk off!!




The end!





LOL!! you're right you know. I think because I treat him good, his rudeness just catches me off guard and I'm like wth did he just say and instead of saying anything then and there it just brews click to expand
Maybe that's why he does it...he trying to get a reaction from you. He probably gets off on fighting and arguing. click to expand



if u do react what he'l do is tell me to chill out and relax even though he's the one who started it all. so he will provoke me, tries to get a reaction, when he does.get a reaction he will act lik im crazy and tell me to calm down, even though he's the fool who started it click to expand
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My comment still stands...punch him in the dick and walk. He's a douche!!
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Erm read up on sociopaths and abuse



It's true ..they can't control their emotions ...bi polar almost ..and can't relate to yours... click to expand
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with him he will say or do something horrendous and if I react to it and by react I mean the minimum, he will tell me to relax and calm down, bit crazy since he's the one being an idiot. if it's the other way around however he will descend into a mood. basicly he can be however he wants towards.someone if someone is the same towards him he will get irritated.
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every single time i went on "holiday" with my leo ex it was always about him and what he wanted to do
this is exactly him. everything is about him

it's just like Im a spare part in his life catering to his needs click to expand



My leo ex was like this ..not just with me ..his other exes too plus the insulting thing ..very hurtful



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oh really what did he do to you?

the problem with this one is, he's was nicer to his exes, I just thought there is no way in hell he would act that way towards them leaving them in the dust while he walks and insulting their looks. since he actually called them beautiful. I read it myself when he showed me his love letters
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every single time i went on "holiday" with my leo ex it was always about him and what he wanted to do
this is exactly him. everything is about him

it's just like Im a spare part in his life catering to his needs click to expand



ya he threw me a birthday dinner and invited his friends who didn't know it was my bday click to expand
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That's so random. what else did he do?
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every single time i went on "holiday" with my leo ex it was always about him and what he wanted to do





this is exactly him. everything is about him

it's just like Im a spare part in his life catering to his needs click to expand





ya he threw me a birthday dinner and invited his friends who didn't know it was my bday click to expand

That's so random. what else did he do? click to expand



walked away or say omg if i started crying

would ignore my burst of emotions

always told me i was being weird

low key manipulated me into behaving in public or doing what he wanted me to do

would repeatedly do things that i told him made me uncomfortable

didn't consider me in any decision but when i made a choice he had to be considered

texted me everyday every hour also skyped everyday even when i saw him at first i thought it was sweet and normal but then i realized relationships aren't meant to be so suffocating

he was also really tidy and controlling with his environment makes sense why he'd control me



currently undoing all those habits i learned being with him click to expand
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every.single thing this guy does too.

what about how he was with other women was he a flirt? I think my one is. he used to follow a new woman every day on social media.

and the tidying thing. he said to me that I'm really messy and he is always clean and tidy. which is why when I said I wanted to swap beds he didn't want to
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every single time i went on "holiday" with my leo ex it was always about him and what he wanted to do





this is exactly him. everything is about him

it's just like Im a spare part in his life catering to his needs click to expand





ya he threw me a birthday dinner and invited his friends who didn't know it was my bday click to expand

That's so random. what else did he do? click to expand





walked away or say omg if i started crying

would ignore my burst of emotions

always told me i was being weird

low key manipulated me into behaving in public or doing what he wanted me to do

would repeatedly do things that i told him made me uncomfortable

didn't consider me in any decision but when i made a choice he had to be considered

texted me everyday every hour also skyped everyday even when i saw him at first i thought it was sweet and normal but then i realized relationships aren't meant to be so suffocating

he was also really tidy and controlling with his environment makes sense why he'd control me



currently undoing all those habits i learned being with him click to expand

every.single thing this guy does too.



what about how he was with other women was he a flirt? I think my one is. he used to follow a new woman every day on social media.



and the tidying thing. he said to me that I'm really messy and he is always clean and tidy. which is why when I said I wanted to swap beds he didn't want to click to expand



omg he was obsessed with cleaning his room was always spotless his laptop was always clear of files, i was like hm this guy could easily be a murderer or a cheater



he was definitely a flirt but the thing with him was you can be a flirt and keep your distance he was a flirt and didn't mind his space being invaded and didn't mind invading someone else i didn't like that



i remember he went to dinner with a woman coworker and he didn't think there was a reason for me to be upset he canceled plans with me to go do that mind you click to expand
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he sounds like Norman bates lol.

cancelling plans with you to go to a dinner with a co worker , well anyone would be upset.

my one actively found women on social media and followed them. even though he would meet me and.everything was good he goes home, next day I .see he's found another "attractive" woman to follow. it just made me.wonder why and if he was messaging them. if I made comments about it he would just laugh and say im mad. I was like right maybe I should follow hundreds of guys on social media and see how you like it.
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Posted by SpaceBird
Self entitled over pampered twat? Family molly coddled him?

People who have very easy first years etc ...tend to have this thing the world owes them something and they are better than everyone else.

he has a lot of younger brothers and sisters whom he had to look after.

I don't know how his childhood was maybe you're right.

thjng is im the only one he's like that with. self entitled. not with his friends or his other exes. I know people might think he's also like that with them but it's not the case.

with them it was like "oh I love you so much can't wait to hold you" and all the like
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I swear to you, Leo sun Scorpio moon is the most narcissistic / sociopathic placement.

@ayla13

He’s not gonna change. This is just the beginning if you stay.

great. lto be honest I'm at the end of my tether with him click to expand

I deal with someone with that placement and it was like night and day, Dr Jeckyl and Mr Hyde personality. He fit the description of a narcissist but it took me a while to accept it.

Don’t let those moments of happiness over cloud the REAL him or you’ll be stuck in this toxic relationship for years. click to expand
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thr problem is it's not just moments of happiness, I would say the bad parts yes they exist but they occur infrequently.. if that makes sense.
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Did he really want to take you on the holiday? That's the only thing I can think of.

what do you mean

he's the one who organised it all. and pretty much booked it without even asking me, when we got there towards the end though after all thr rude and mean comments he just said " you really don't know how to have a holiday do you" I have no idea why he said that but there we go. Maybe because of the lack of physical intimacy, or because we didn't go partying like he wanted, I think he wanted to have a wild few days, sex and partying lol and I suppose im more of a "good" girl. That's all I can think of I don't know why else he would have said that.

but then after insulting me when we were going home he said don't worry we're learning, since it's our first trip abroad as in to say we can do better next time.
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Did he really want to take you on the holiday? That's the only thing I can think of.


what do you mean
he's the one who organised it all. and pretty much booked it without even asking me, when we got there towards the end though after all thr rude and mean comments he just said " you really don't know how to have a holiday do you" I have no idea why he said that but there we go. Maybe because of the lack of physical intimacy, or because we didn't go partying like he wanted, I think he wanted to have a wild few days, sex and partying lol and I suppose im more of a "good" girl. That's all I can think of I don't know why else he would have said that.

but then after insulting me when we were going home he said don't worry we're learning, since it's our first trip abroad as in to say we can do better next time. click to expand

See how he made it like it was your fault. Everything will always be your fault. You're worth much better than this. click to expand
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yeh I know. he's just weird. I mean who can't see their own faults at least some of the time.
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Did he really want to take you on the holiday? That's the only thing I can think of.


what do you mean
he's the one who organised it all. and pretty much booked it without even asking me, when we got there towards the end though after all thr rude and mean comments he just said " you really don't know how to have a holiday do you" I have no idea why he said that but there we go. Maybe because of the lack of physical intimacy, or because we didn't go partying like he wanted, I think he wanted to have a wild few days, sex and partying lol and I suppose im more of a "good" girl. That's all I can think of I don't know why else he would have said that.

but then after insulting me when we were going home he said don't worry we're learning, since it's our first trip abroad as in to say we can do better next time. click to expand

He is trying to diminish you making you feel very very small like your feelings don't matter. Please don't get back with him. That would be so sad to see. And yes he is gaslighting the hell out of you. click to expand
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I havnt contacted him since and he's already messaged me a couple of times.

and guess what yesterday he messaged me a link from instagram of this slutty and fake looking girl looking in to the camera and pouting while u could pretty much see everything..and he just goes.to me tell me the song name, because there was a background song she was posing to. I was like ok so he insults my appearance on holiday and when we get back home he is spending valuable time perving on these fake ass women
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Posted by tiziani
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Did he really want to take you on the holiday? That's the only thing I can think of.


what do you mean
he's the one who organised it all. and pretty much booked it without even asking me, when we got there towards the end though after all thr rude and mean comments he just said " you really don't know how to have a holiday do you" I have no idea why he said that but there we go. Maybe because of the lack of physical intimacy, or because we didn't go partying like he wanted, I think he wanted to have a wild few days, sex and partying lol and I suppose im more of a "good" girl. That's all I can think of I don't know why else he would have said that.

but then after insulting me when we were going home he said don't worry we're learning, since it's our first trip abroad as in to say we can do better next time. click to expand

I mean because he sounds like he really didn't want to be on that holiday. So I was thinking maybe there was more to the background story.

Either way someone who acts like they are always right gets old, fast. Just for that alone I hope you two manage to knock it off treating each other this way sooner rather than later. click to expand
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Well he's always been this way. literally.

so I doubt he will.
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Lol ok now u gotta be the hottest ex he ever had. Make sure he follows u on Snapchat. Post sexy stories daily. Have fun torturing him!!

LOL I feel like he doesn't see me as the "hottest" in any regard lol. even though other guys do. but yeh I see your point 😅😂 click to expand
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I don’t believe that one bit. He definitely thinks u are or he wouldn’t have invited u on this trip. And he definitely still has feelings for you, but he’s sabatoging all chances with u. Screw him. Make him regret his decisions. He doesn’t want u to be confident. So be 110% confident!!! It will drive him crazy. Have fun 😁
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Lol ok now u gotta be the hottest ex he ever had. Make sure he follows u on Snapchat. Post sexy stories daily. Have fun torturing him!!



LOL I feel like he doesn't see me as the "hottest" in any regard lol. even though other guys do. but yeh I see your point 😅😂 click to expand

I don’t believe that one bit. He definitely thinks u are or he wouldn’t have invited u on this trip. And he definitely still has feelings for you, but he’s sabatoging all chances with u. Screw him. Make him regret his decisions. He doesn’t want u to be confident. So be 110% confident!!! It will drive him crazy. Have fun 😁 click to expand
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thanks for the faith 😄. iv guess I just doubt it since he's always looking at instagam women lol and then sending me the links 🙄.

he's weird lol. he doesn't want me.to be confident, it's funny beca use normally I am pretty confident and I'm always telling him about other guys and how they hit on me, and hes always like forget them im better (apparently).
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Posted by Goodmorning
Bahahaha a Virgo being told they are not perfect. Quite karmic considering Virgos usually are supposed to be doing this to others.

Anywho I felt that he might be joking but if he isn't you know you should walk away.

normally he does joke with me a lot, but that time when he commented on my appearance implying I looked.terrible im pretty certain he wasn't joking, there was no smile no laughter like normal.
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