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Cheated on sag...what to do?
Why did you cheat?
Yeah...give him more detailed...with measurements...lmao!
lul i cheated, we love each other more than ever. bwahahahaha
You know, i have it on good authority that all fairy tale romances which say "they lived happily ever after" started with cheating of one or another kind, i mean even before Snow White met her prince charming there were seven dwarves to take care of first in the dark forest.
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You know, i have it on good authority that all fairy tale romances which say "they lived happily ever after" started with cheating of one or another kind, i mean even before Snow White met her prince charming there were seven dwarves to take care of first in the dark forest.
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DONT PANIC. IF YOU PANIC IM GONNA PANIC AND THEN I CANT HELP YOU.
You done.... sags donāt forget being cheated on... hang it up
I'm looking for an answer on best way to handle it. I'll do what it takes but for a sag guy what's the best route?
But the guy I cheated with I gave him a bj twice while I was drugged and locked in his car while he blackmailed me. He has restraining orders, harassment charges, is a meth addict and would threaten and harass me for weeks and would threaten my boyfriend and his work and our relationship constantly. I wasn't thinking clear and panicked because he said he'll drive to my work or his work and start shit. Told me I needed a gun and he has nothing in his life and his sole purpose would be to ruin mine. I've never met anyone like him or dealt with anything like this. Its a whole situation. I put myself in a very bad position, I made bad choices and I have to put up with consequences. What can I do now?
But the guy I cheated with I gave him a bj twice while I was drugged and locked in his car while he blackmailed me. He has restraining orders, harassment charges, is a meth addict and would threaten and harass me for weeks and would threaten my boyfriend and his work and our relationship constantly. I wasn't thinking clear and panicked because he said he'll drive to my work or his work and start shit. Told me I needed a gun and he has nothing in his life and his sole purpose would be to ruin mine. I've never met anyone like him or dealt with anything like this. Its a whole situation. I put myself in a very bad position, I made bad choices and I have to put up with consequences. What can I do now?
Posted by pluto-uranusWhat did I just read.
I'm looking for an answer on best way to handle it. I'll do what it takes but for a sag guy what's the best route?
But the guy I cheated with I gave him a bj twice while I was drugged and locked in his car while he blackmailed me. He has restraining orders, harassment charges, is a meth addict and would threaten and harass me for weeks and would threaten my boyfriend and his work and our relationship constantly. I wasn't thinking clear and panicked because he said he'll drive to my work or his work and start shit. Told me I needed a gun and he has nothing in his life and his sole purpose would be to ruin mine. I've never met anyone like him or dealt with anything like this. Its a whole situation. I put myself in a very bad position, I made bad choices and I have to put up with consequences. What can I do now?
Posted by queenaries_It must be something else. Iām Taurus dominant and have lots of Capricorn in my chart but I have never cheated and will leave before cheating. My sis says Iām too loyal to a fault. She a Gemini and has cheated.Posted by HoneyXxHmm a lot of cheaters I know have water and earth (mostly cap and Taurus) mixed up in their chartPosted by queenaries_they're great at hiding shit...Posted by HoneyXxThe virgos i know never cheated
Virgos stay cheating... what's new?
Didnāt really think that was a thing
spectacular actually.
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Posted by pluto-uranus
But the guy I cheated with I gave him a bj twice while I was drugged and locked in his car while he blackmailed me. He has restraining orders, harassment charges, is a meth addict and would threaten and harass me for weeks and would threaten my boyfriend and his work and our relationship constantly. I wasn't thinking clear and panicked because he said he'll drive to my work or his work and start shit. Told me I needed a gun and he has nothing in his life and his sole purpose would be to ruin mine. I've never met anyone like him or dealt with anything like this. Its a whole situation. I put myself in a very bad position, I made bad choices and I have to put up with consequences. What can I do now?
Is that cheating or mouth rape?
YALL ARE NO DAMN HELP
Posted by pluto-uranusWell Iām a Libra Moon and if he is anything like me, he will never forget and it will be hard for him to forgive. It sounds like heās struggling with it. You can give him time and spoil him but it may not be enough. Something happened when my Scorpio bf and I were just dating and getting to know each other. I wanted to break it off when I found out but he insisted that he could show me he wasnāt a sleazy two-timing dog. He really tried but it hasnāt helped. It may never go away.
YALL ARE NO DAMN HELP
He may never forgive you and you two might just have a shitty relationship but yāall just canāt let go. Donāt really understand your situation but your relationship is now tainted and it depends on how strong/mature he is and how much he loves you to let it go.
Posted by BunniesI told him over and over that he can't be with me if he doesn't forgive me. He said he forgave me and I asked if he meant it and he said yes. But tonight I asked him during an episode if he forgave me and he said on some says he does and on other days he doesn't. I tried to leave him and block him but he calls and leaves tearful voicemails telling me how he loves me then the other how he hates me. I love him and don't want him to suffer any more over my actions but he won't let me go and I can't leave because he needs me and being with him is all I want. The thing is he got extremely abusive before because of what I did on his mind and I tried telling him goodbye because if he can't forgive me then he will continue being abusive. He said sorry and that he loves me it has been more controlled when he talks of the past. All I could hope for taking him telling me I'm a piece of shit until he calms down the next week. I'd take it but I don't want any unnecessary suffering on his part. I already know I will always stay if there's any need for me on his part...and he knows it too and uses it against me. I just want to do the right thing. Every time I try and leave he hangs onto me twice as hard and I break down and want to help him stop suffering. My actions make me straight up want to kill myself. I hate myself and want to change. I'd go through extreme shit to make it up to him, I don't mind. I just can't bear being kicked out after a great and relationship affirming night over and over and over. You think this won't end? Any other guy would have left me and any other girl would have left him.Posted by pluto-uranusWell Iām a Libra Moon and if he is anything like me, he will never forget and it will be hard for him to forgive. It sounds like heās struggling with it. You can give him time and spoil him but it may not be enough. Something happened when my Scorpio bf and I were just dating and getting to know each other. I wanted to break it off when I found out but he insisted that he could show me he wasnāt a sleazy two-timing dog. He really tried but it hasnāt helped. It may never go away.
YALL ARE NO DAMN HELP
He may never forgive you and you two might just have a shitty relationship but yāall just canāt let go. Donāt really understand your situation but your relationship is now tainted and it depends on how strong/mature he is and how much he loves you to let it go.click to expand
Posted by pluto-uranusHe sounds exactly like me, how I treated my Scorpio. The best thing you can do is to be firm. If you think itās best to leave, you must be strong and not let him in again. He will take advantage of it and then have another outburst and the cycle repeats until you will get tired of it. He wonāt stop until you stand your ground. I stopped the abuse when my Scorpio had enough of being treated like crap for his past.Posted by BunniesI told him over and over that he can't be with me if he doesn't forgive me. He said he forgave me and I asked if he meant it and he said yes. But tonight I asked him during an episode if he forgave me and he said on some says he does and on other days he doesn't. I tried to leave him and block him but he calls and leaves tearful voicemails telling me how he loves me then the other how he hates me. I love him and don't want him to suffer any more over my actions but he won't let me go and I can't leave because he needs me and being with him is all I want. The thing is he got extremely abusive before because of what I did on his mind and I tried telling him goodbye because if he can't forgive me then he will continue being abusive. He said sorry and that he loves me it has been more controlled when he talks of the past. All I could hope for taking him telling me I'm a piece of shit until he calms down the next week. I'd take it but I don't want any unnecessary suffering on his part. I already know I will always stay if there's any need for me on his part...and he knows it too and uses it against me. I just want to do the right thing. Every time I try and leave he hangs onto me twice as hard and I break down and want to help him stop suffering. My actions make me straight up want to kill myself. I hate myself and want to change. I'd go through extreme shit to make it up to him, I don't mind. I just can't bear being kicked out after a great and relationship affirming night over and over and over. You think this won't end? Any other guy would have left me and any other girl would have left him.Posted by pluto-uranusWell Iām a Libra Moon and if he is anything like me, he will never forget and it will be hard for him to forgive. It sounds like heās struggling with it. You can give him time and spoil him but it may not be enough. Something happened when my Scorpio bf and I were just dating and getting to know each other. I wanted to break it off when I found out but he insisted that he could show me he wasnāt a sleazy two-timing dog. He really tried but it hasnāt helped. It may never go away.
YALL ARE NO DAMN HELP
He may never forgive you and you two might just have a shitty relationship but yāall just canāt let go. Donāt really understand your situation but your relationship is now tainted and it depends on how strong/mature he is and how much he loves you to let it go.click to expand
I think your Leo might truly love you but right now, heās very hurt and needs to work through it on his own. It seems like you canāt help him just like my Scorpio couldnāt help me no matter how hard he tried to show me how much he loved me. I just beat him down emotionally and verbally because I was so angry and hurt at what he did. He hurt my ego and it took me years to be as stable as I am now and to let that shit go.
If you canāt let go and he canāt forgive you, you two are in for a long exhausting ride.
Posted by BunniesThank you. Truly. Answer will always be the same I realize now. Forgiveness and ending cycles.Posted by pluto-uranusHe sounds exactly like me, how I treated my Scorpio. The best thing you can do is to be firm. If you think itās best to leave, you must be strong and not let him in again. He will take advantage of it and then have another outburst and the cycle repeats until you will get tired of it. He wonāt stop until you stand your ground. I stopped the abuse when my Scorpio had enough of being treated like crap for his past.Posted by BunniesI told him over and over that he can't be with me if he doesn't forgive me. He said he forgave me and I asked if he meant it and he said yes. But tonight I asked him during an episode if he forgave me and he said on some says he does and on other days he doesn't. I tried to leave him and block him but he calls and leaves tearful voicemails telling me how he loves me then the other how he hates me. I love him and don't want him to suffer any more over my actions but he won't let me go and I can't leave because he needs me and being with him is all I want. The thing is he got extremely abusive before because of what I did on his mind and I tried telling him goodbye because if he can't forgive me then he will continue being abusive. He said sorry and that he loves me it has been more controlled when he talks of the past. All I could hope for taking him telling me I'm a piece of shit until he calms down the next week. I'd take it but I don't want any unnecessary suffering on his part. I already know I will always stay if there's any need for me on his part...and he knows it too and uses it against me. I just want to do the right thing. Every time I try and leave he hangs onto me twice as hard and I break down and want to help him stop suffering. My actions make me straight up want to kill myself. I hate myself and want to change. I'd go through extreme shit to make it up to him, I don't mind. I just can't bear being kicked out after a great and relationship affirming night over and over and over. You think this won't end? Any other guy would have left me and any other girl would have left him.Posted by pluto-uranusWell Iām a Libra Moon and if he is anything like me, he will never forget and it will be hard for him to forgive. It sounds like heās struggling with it. You can give him time and spoil him but it may not be enough. Something happened when my Scorpio bf and I were just dating and getting to know each other. I wanted to break it off when I found out but he insisted that he could show me he wasnāt a sleazy two-timing dog. He really tried but it hasnāt helped. It may never go away.
YALL ARE NO DAMN HELP
He may never forgive you and you two might just have a shitty relationship but yāall just canāt let go. Donāt really understand your situation but your relationship is now tainted and it depends on how strong/mature he is and how much he loves you to let it go.
I think your Leo might truly love you but right now, heās very hurt and needs to work through it on his own. It seems like you canāt help him just like my Scorpio couldnāt help me no matter how hard he tried to show me how much he loved me. I just beat him down emotionally and verbally because I was so angry and hurt at what he did. He hurt my ego and it took me years to be as stable as I am now and to let that shit go.
If you canāt let go and he canāt forgive you, you two are in for a long exhausting ride.click to expand
Life is funny, thanks for taking the time tonight. I appreciate it.
Posted by pluto-uranusBe responsible and take the consequences. You screwed this one up.
I'm looking for an answer on best way to handle it. I'll do what it takes but for a sag guy what's the best route?
But the guy I cheated with I gave him a bj twice while I was drugged and locked in his car while he blackmailed me. He has restraining orders, harassment charges, is a meth addict and would threaten and harass me for weeks and would threaten my boyfriend and his work and our relationship constantly. I wasn't thinking clear and panicked because he said he'll drive to my work or his work and start shit. Told me I needed a gun and he has nothing in his life and his sole purpose would be to ruin mine. I've never met anyone like him or dealt with anything like this. Its a whole situation. I put myself in a very bad position, I made bad choices and I have to put up with consequences. What can I do now?
Sounds like a very toxic relationship, full of drama
is this your everyday life? can you get out of this environment and do something good for yourself?
its not only about your relationship with him, its about your life... are you happy with your life in general? how often you two do drugs? it may alter everything
get out and get clean
you cant help him, if you continue to get involved with this mess and creating mess yourself
is this your everyday life? can you get out of this environment and do something good for yourself?
its not only about your relationship with him, its about your life... are you happy with your life in general? how often you two do drugs? it may alter everything
get out and get clean
you cant help him, if you continue to get involved with this mess and creating mess yourself
I agree with @pandora101. Your relationship is extremely toxic. You both need help! Why stay in a relationship where you have to relive your mistakes and with someone who's verbally abusing you.
As far as the cheating goes...it doesn't sound like you cheated hun. From what I read you were forced which is sexual assault/rape.
As far as the cheating goes...it doesn't sound like you cheated hun. From what I read you were forced which is sexual assault/rape.
The fucked up thing is that the more you guys tell me we are fucked up the more it makes me want to stay because it feels like it is us against the world, no one can understand our relationship but us. I would think this is common thinking between toxic couples, however.
Posted by CvurkooI seriously considered/am considering a psychologist. Thanks for affirming.
There is something worrying in how you guys handle this shit. I would suggest a psychologist to both of you.
Posted by pluto-uranusThere are 2 things to consider:
The fucked up thing is that the more you guys tell me we are fucked up the more it makes me want to stay because it feels like it is us against the world, no one can understand our relationship but us. I would think this is common thinking between toxic couples, however.
1. your toxic relationship - if you enjoy it, then stay
2. your environment - giving bj drugged in a locked car - I mean, how cheap is that? do you really want to live in an environment, where this is a possibility? to live this kind of life?
okey, stay with your man, if you enjoy the drama, but quit that shit people you are surrounded..... one thing is a toxic relationship and the other bigger issue is, how you lead your life.... are you really happy with being that cheap?
You want magic... not help. Please see aisle 5
Posted by hellosaggyLMAO
You want magic... not help. Please see aisle 5
What you should do is not settle for someone who doesnāt invest trust in you. Also next time just end things and walk away. Much less messy.
I got his name tattooed on me a day ago. Just to wrap the story up.
Posted by UnicornSagIt's in his native language so it's more of a intimate personal variation and I find it to be a seal of loyalty, for myself and for him, as well as a declaration of love. The future is uncertain and I might be paying for laser removal but I swear my being to him in this way. My transgressions are inexcusable nor forgettable but I'd like to promise my future to him to ease the pain of the past. It's a vow to myself equally as it is to him. I enjoy knowing the gravity of the permanence as it holds permanence of my promise to him. Things might not work out but I am prepared for that too. It's a bit extreme but I don't see how else to ease his mind but with extremes. Him going back and forth with me while another would leave and not look back...despite my actions...he must truly love me. I appreciate the posters telling me how disgusting and pathetic and vile I am, and I am. If he were to leave me and the relationship would die, I'd still like to change as a person entirely, regardless. A sound person would have never have done what I did. I'm not very sound at all, but sound enough to realize that there are no such things as excuses for my actions. The sad thing is I don't think I was truly in love with him until he showed me how much he truly loves me and it led to my selfish and careless behavior disregarding him and our relationship. If I loved him I would have rather died than to have entertained being a victim of the circumstances, or a victim at all. I've never been more ashamed of myself in my life.Posted by pluto-uranus
I got his name tattooed on me a day ago. Just to wrap the story up.
and that fixes it how? why people feel tattooing our names changes something lol my had his ex named tattooed on him(she's born same day as I am) and got it changed to something else when he as with me...i wouldn't tattoo anyone's name one me, but would something that's regarding that person that only I would know the meaning for...and that person ofcclick to expand
OP, Sag male here.
You said something a couple of pages back that is most likely the reason why youāre in this situation. It basically went like this : āIf he needs me, Iāll stay.ā
Is this to suggest that if he didnāt need you, youād leave? The truth is, youāre addicted to the idea of being needed. I suspect that this Sag was broken when you met him and you tried to fix him. Also, itās most likely why you got involved with the other guy. The trap with ābeing neededā is that it gives people power over you and Iām sorry to say...has nothing to do with love. Also, in my opinion, he doesnāt love you. Contrary to popular belief, Love doesnāt cause pain...ego does. Heās simply stringing you along out of ego. Push-pull. You donāt abuse someone you love...ever. Thatās fundamental.
As painful as this sounds, itās in your best interest to part ways. Itās possible you two could be together later on after healing but I doubt it. Too much damage and the relationship most likely wasnāt solid from the get go. To me, your main problem is trying to fix people. Thatās not the way to go. They have to heal themselves. You can love them and maybe help but I wouldnāt get too involved. Learn to love yourself first...flaws and all...unconditionally. Only then will you meet someone that can reciprocate the love you give.
You said something a couple of pages back that is most likely the reason why youāre in this situation. It basically went like this : āIf he needs me, Iāll stay.ā
Is this to suggest that if he didnāt need you, youād leave? The truth is, youāre addicted to the idea of being needed. I suspect that this Sag was broken when you met him and you tried to fix him. Also, itās most likely why you got involved with the other guy. The trap with ābeing neededā is that it gives people power over you and Iām sorry to say...has nothing to do with love. Also, in my opinion, he doesnāt love you. Contrary to popular belief, Love doesnāt cause pain...ego does. Heās simply stringing you along out of ego. Push-pull. You donāt abuse someone you love...ever. Thatās fundamental.
As painful as this sounds, itās in your best interest to part ways. Itās possible you two could be together later on after healing but I doubt it. Too much damage and the relationship most likely wasnāt solid from the get go. To me, your main problem is trying to fix people. Thatās not the way to go. They have to heal themselves. You can love them and maybe help but I wouldnāt get too involved. Learn to love yourself first...flaws and all...unconditionally. Only then will you meet someone that can reciprocate the love you give.
Posted by beautifulsoul74Actually it was the other way around. He was trying to fix me our entire relationship and took it upon himself to help me because he saw himself in me. He pitied me. I reminded him of where he was years ago. Fine analysis, but I was in a toxic codependent relationship before and this feels very different from it. I severed ties continuously many times but he persistently and vehemently asked for me back and it gave me some hope that things can be saved. It's strange, I think he realized how much he did love me but it conflicted directly with my actions and the entire situation and drove him insane. His venus is in aquarius if it matters... before all this he was quite emotionally detached but a different person now. Like he embraced his role. I've never seen him more emotional, broken down, tearful, apologetic, begging, depressed, conflicted, paranoid, masochistic, distraught and I've never seen him more angry, spiteful, vengeful, careless, abusive, mean, jealous, possessive, controlling and I also have never seen him more loving, protective, caring, thoughtful, generous, open, and romantic than I have in our entire relationship. Things stabilized now, of course, but I don't know what kind of a man would willingly go through such turmoil if he didn't love me. Even if he was codependent and had abandonment issues or something or other.
OP, Sag male here.
You said something a couple of pages back that is most likely the reason why youāre in this situation. It basically went like this : āIf he needs me, Iāll stay.ā
Is this to suggest that if he didnāt need you, youād leave? The truth is, youāre addicted to the idea of being needed. I suspect that this Sag was broken when you met him and you tried to fix him. Also, itās most likely why you got involved with the other guy. The trap with ābeing neededā is that it gives people power over you and Iām sorry to say...has nothing to do with love. Also, in my opinion, he doesnāt love you. Contrary to popular belief, Love doesnāt cause pain...ego does. Heās simply stringing you along out of ego. Push-pull. You donāt abuse someone you love...ever. Thatās fundamental.
As painful as this sounds, itās in your best interest to part ways. Itās possible you two could be together later on after healing but I doubt it. Too much damage and the relationship most likely wasnāt solid from the get go. To me, your main problem is trying to fix people. Thatās not the way to go. They have to heal themselves. You can love them and maybe help but I wouldnāt get too involved. Learn to love yourself first...flaws and all...unconditionally. Only then will you meet someone that can reciprocate the love you give.
With the other guy...he was so broken it absolutely terrified me. The amount of fixing he needed was beyond any human limit. He was crying out for help so desperately and selfishly it made me sick knowing that I can't even begin to imagine just how fucked he was. It really woke me up.
Posted by pluto-uranusWe like broken people. We like trying to change people. We like to be happy too. Fixing people makes us happy especially when it benefits us.Posted by beautifulsoul74Actually it was the other way around. He was trying to fix me our entire relationship and took it upon himself to help me because he saw himself in me. He pitied me. I reminded him of where he was years ago. Fine analysis, but I was in a toxic codependent relationship before and this feels very different from it. I severed ties continuously many times but he persistently and vehemently asked for me back and it gave me some hope that things can be saved. It's strange, I think he realized how much he did love me but it conflicted directly with my actions and the entire situation and drove him insane. His venus is in aquarius if it matters... before all this he was quite emotionally detached but a different person now. Like he embraced his role. I've never seen him more emotional, broken down, tearful, apologetic, begging, depressed, conflicted, paranoid, masochistic, distraught and I've never seen him more angry, spiteful, vengeful, careless, abusive, mean, jealous, possessive, controlling and I also have never seen him more loving, protective, caring, thoughtful, generous, open, and romantic than I have in our entire relationship. Things stabilized now, of course, but I don't know what kind of a man would willingly go through such turmoil if he didn't love me. Even if he was codependent and had abandonment issues or something or other.
OP, Sag male here.
You said something a couple of pages back that is most likely the reason why youāre in this situation. It basically went like this : āIf he needs me, Iāll stay.ā
Is this to suggest that if he didnāt need you, youād leave? The truth is, youāre addicted to the idea of being needed. I suspect that this Sag was broken when you met him and you tried to fix him. Also, itās most likely why you got involved with the other guy. The trap with ābeing neededā is that it gives people power over you and Iām sorry to say...has nothing to do with love. Also, in my opinion, he doesnāt love you. Contrary to popular belief, Love doesnāt cause pain...ego does. Heās simply stringing you along out of ego. Push-pull. You donāt abuse someone you love...ever. Thatās fundamental.
As painful as this sounds, itās in your best interest to part ways. Itās possible you two could be together later on after healing but I doubt it. Too much damage and the relationship most likely wasnāt solid from the get go. To me, your main problem is trying to fix people. Thatās not the way to go. They have to heal themselves. You can love them and maybe help but I wouldnāt get too involved. Learn to love yourself first...flaws and all...unconditionally. Only then will you meet someone that can reciprocate the love you give.
With the other guy...he was so broken it absolutely terrified me. The amount of fixing he needed was beyond any human limit. He was crying out for help so desperately and selfishly it made me sick knowing that I can't even begin to imagine just how fucked he was. It really woke me up.click to expand
You ruined his happiness by cheating. He will NEVER see you in same light again.
Pack it up. Honest no chance here.
Sadly you canāt prove shit...love and devotion wise. You cheated and that killed some of the love and respect he had for you. Your not gonna rebuild that overnight. Gotta be in it for the long haul and prove to him over time that youāve changed.
Until then heās gonna be mistrustful and bring up the past cause heās hurting.
Kinda comes with the territory...
Until then heās gonna be mistrustful and bring up the past cause heās hurting.
Kinda comes with the territory...
Posted by HoneyXxThat ain't true i cheated on my cancer ex but never on my Sagittarius š
Virgos stay cheating... what's new?
Posted by pluto-uranus
He has libra moon, sag mars, venus in aqua.
It's a long story and very messy, and I regret it immeasurably.
The boyfriend likes to bring up me cheating and lying to him and going back on my promises to not hit this guy up. Said me going back on my word hurts more than the cheating and I ruined everything. Brings up the worst details and is cruel about mentioning it to me. It haunts him. Ive seen him at his absolute worst over this. He can't help but to think about it, but doesn't want to think about it. Says he truly loves me. Second girl that he's loved. I love him and can't see him in pain like this over my actions. Told him to leave me and I tried leaving him multiple times but I always come back and he stays. We love each other more than ever now. But every time he gets in a mood to think about it I panic thinking this is the day he leaves me. How do I prove my love and devotion? Do I take his episodes of remembering this and take it and stay put? Try even harder to show I love and care for him? Gifts? Leading my own life and changing myself and showing progress in my own ambitions? Give him more details? He can't help thinking about it because my actions don't make sense to him. The problem is that my actions didn't make sense to me either so I can't offer him any peace of mind. I regret it so much. I'm a virgo. I just want to help our relationship and make it better, I love him. How do I proceed?
I know the feeling a few questions my fellow virgo did you cheat out of impulse or because you are not satisfied ? Are you afraid he might do it or have you talked really good about it ?
What is his moon sign and what is yours and what is your mars and venus sign.
The love between a Virgo and Sagittarius can indeed be very deep deeper then most people think Sagittarius and Virgo love eachother harder then any other sign does they are both mutable and have a problem with making up their mind they both are strong communicators even though they are different.
They both stimulate eachother but what you need to guard for is that you should not drop things or people the moment you want to continue the relationship but do show him you wanna do things together keep involving him into things show him your interest for his things stay enthusiastic. A Sagittarius can forgive very easy like a Virgo but will not forget so he will mention it and it can take months maybe a year give it time but make things straight right away so he doesn't keep repeating you cheating don't try to justify or anger him because Sagittarius are often not revengeful but they are impulsive so they can act on anger.
Instead try to talk about it whenever he feels like talking about it even if you have to explain it a 100 times show him you care and consider his feelings do not mention anything negative or say anything to make an excuse to not hear him out because that will eventually drive him in to the arms of another women.
Good luck with everything i am with a sagg so if you have any questions feel free to ask
Posted by hellosaggy
You done.... sags donāt forget being cheated on... hang it up
says the one....š sigh*
Posted by HoneyXxWhat other signs don't see is that we virgo's are hard to satisfy so when a sagittarius comes around it's a different story most sagittarius are sexually experienced and fierce and i love that about a sagittarius i am never unsatisfied with my sagittarius. Mentally he always stimulates me and yes emotionally he can put me through a rollercoaster but at the end of the day he's the one and only man i love and i can tell you i have never said this before not even with my ex. This is also my second serious relationship almost 3 years together now and i love him till death unless he screws me over ofcourse š then my sagg moon comes out and becomes the old me the dark side of me that i rather keep for myself and hide very far away. My sagittarius actually calmed me down i would not say tamed me because i can never tame me šPosted by dewiklaessen26šššš¦Posted by HoneyXxThat ain't true i cheated on my cancer ex but never on my Sagittarius š
Virgos stay cheating... what's new?
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Posted by pluto-uranusJust saw your thread, hope its not too late or anything, I havent even finished reading it till the end. I was litterally in the same situation, without the crazy meth guy and the car. I'm a virgo, my first love- the sagg and after 3-4 months of relationship(a loving, awesome, happy one) I cheated on him(cuz I was a stupid kid, living by what I feel in the moment or smh) I stayed 1 month with the guy I cheated and felt like I wanna go back to the sagg. The dude understood(he was older) and left me do whatever I wanted. The sagg took me back, it kinda felt like (at least on my side) our feelings are much stronger and the passion was more. We talked about why I did it only this one time and he never brought it up, except when he was really drunk and thats when he was also really angry and mentally abusive (a lot of times I thought it could go to a physically abusive,although he controlled himself a lot)Posted by BunniesThank you. Truly. Answer will always be the same I realize now. Forgiveness and ending cycles.Posted by pluto-uranusHe sounds exactly like me, how I treated my Scorpio. The best thing you can do is to be firm. If you think itās best to leave, you must be strong and not let him in again. He will take advantage of it and then have another outburst and the cycle repeats until you will get tired of it. He wonāt stop until you stand your ground. I stopped the abuse when my Scorpio had enough of being treated like crap for his past.Posted by BunniesI told him over and over that he can't be with me if he doesn't forgive me. He said he forgave me and I asked if he meant it and he said yes. But tonight I asked him during an episode if he forgave me and he said on some says he does and on other days he doesn't. I tried to leave him and block him but he calls and leaves tearful voicemails telling me how he loves me then the other how he hates me. I love him and don't want him to suffer any more over my actions but he won't let me go and I can't leave because he needs me and being with him is all I want. The thing is he got extremely abusive before because of what I did on his mind and I tried telling him goodbye because if he can't forgive me then he will continue being abusive. He said sorry and that he loves me it has been more controlled when he talks of the past. All I could hope for taking him telling me I'm a piece of shit until he calms down the next week. I'd take it but I don't want any unnecessary suffering on his part. I already know I will always stay if there's any need for me on his part...and he knows it too and uses it against me. I just want to do the right thing. Every time I try and leave he hangs onto me twice as hard and I break down and want to help him stop suffering. My actions make me straight up want to kill myself. I hate myself and want to change. I'd go through extreme shit to make it up to him, I don't mind. I just can't bear being kicked out after a great and relationship affirming night over and over and over. You think this won't end? Any other guy would have left me and any other girl would have left him.Posted by pluto-uranusWell Iām a Libra Moon and if he is anything like me, he will never forget and it will be hard for him to forgive. It sounds like heās struggling with it. You can give him time and spoil him but it may not be enough. Something happened when my Scorpio bf and I were just dating and getting to know each other. I wanted to break it off when I found out but he insisted that he could show me he wasnāt a sleazy two-timing dog. He really tried but it hasnāt helped. It may never go away.
YALL ARE NO DAMN HELP
He may never forgive you and you two might just have a shitty relationship but yāall just canāt let go. Donāt really understand your situation but your relationship is now tainted and it depends on how strong/mature he is and how much he loves you to let it go.
I think your Leo might truly love you but right now, heās very hurt and needs to work through it on his own. It seems like you canāt help him just like my Scorpio couldnāt help me no matter how hard he tried to show me how much he loved me. I just beat him down emotionally and verbally because I was so angry and hurt at what he did. He hurt my ego and it took me years to be as stable as I am now and to let that shit go.
If you canāt let go and he canāt forgive you, you two are in for a long exhausting ride.
Life is funny, thanks for taking the time tonight. I appreciate it.
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So from what you've said I understand that you've already did everything you could, showing affection, being sorry, being there for him. But if he's taking it so bad and he's not going through it...it wont work. Try to discuss it like, fo realz. Discuss the situation,how he felt, how you felt and decide what to do. All you two are doing now is really toxic and not healthy. At the end I can tell you that I stayed with my sagg for a year after what heppened and he cheated on me at the end of tjat year..I've tried to erase all the memories from that time, it was all way too paintfull and I also know that this ia what u get when u cheat š it backfires. So it never worked for me, guess although he never spoke about it or expressed himself he was actually hurt and wanted to get back at me. 5 years later we're still friends and it's all good, so it's not the end of the world,even so it may seems like that to you now.
Again,speak with him and decide what to do. Dont leave it like its now. Wish you luck , and I hope there's not going to be something awfully big, dramatic and drastic that happened between you two at the next 5 pages I haven't read yet š
Posted by OCJackPosted by pluto-uranus
I told him over and over that he can't be with me if he doesn't forgive me.
Are you fucking shitting me? You're the one that did some horribly fucked up shit and you think YOU get to be the one to make demands? Holy fucking shit.
This is your goddamn problem. You're not sorry, nobody talks and acts like this when they are genuinely sorry. Someone who is genuinely sorry eats fucking dirt HAPPILY. They get on their knees and BEG for forgiveness, and say "I'm sorry I did this thing, I will do WHATEVER it takes for you to forgive me." Instead you are only thinking about yourself. This is exactly why you cheated in the first place, because all you cared about was your own selfish desires and here now you are still looking out for yourself when you're not a victim.
You are one fucked up cunt, and I don't care if I get blocked for saying this because you really do deserve it:
Kill yourself. Now. You worthless piece of shit.
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You're really not as smart as you think you are. Delusional and self righteous and inexperienced. Armchair psychologist. The only thing you know is what I divulged and nothing more beyond that. To base theory off just my word with no understanding of the basis, stupid. You are out of your depth...If you weren't you'd realize that someone who became incredibly abusive over and over and wouldn't let go of a cheating significant other would only have the option to forgive and stay in the relationship or let go. The relationship would be in much worse straits down the road if my cheating was always held over my head and justified all and any cruel behavior on his part. Without forgiveness there is no relationship to be had. I'd be terrorized and abused despite begging for forgiveness over and over and he'd be justified to act with hate in his heart toward someone he cares for. How old are you? How many relationships have you had? You have a custom Rick and morty avatar...insufferable.
Posted by dewiklaessen26He has sun sag, mars sag, venus in aqua moon in libra.Posted by pluto-uranus
He has libra moon, sag mars, venus in aqua.
It's a long story and very messy, and I regret it immeasurably.
The boyfriend likes to bring up me cheating and lying to him and going back on my promises to not hit this guy up. Said me going back on my word hurts more than the cheating and I ruined everything. Brings up the worst details and is cruel about mentioning it to me. It haunts him. Ive seen him at his absolute worst over this. He can't help but to think about it, but doesn't want to think about it. Says he truly loves me. Second girl that he's loved. I love him and can't see him in pain like this over my actions. Told him to leave me and I tried leaving him multiple times but I always come back and he stays. We love each other more than ever now. But every time he gets in a mood to think about it I panic thinking this is the day he leaves me. How do I prove my love and devotion? Do I take his episodes of remembering this and take it and stay put? Try even harder to show I love and care for him? Gifts? Leading my own life and changing myself and showing progress in my own ambitions? Give him more details? He can't help thinking about it because my actions don't make sense to him. The problem is that my actions didn't make sense to me either so I can't offer him any peace of mind. I regret it so much. I'm a virgo. I just want to help our relationship and make it better, I love him. How do I proceed?
I know the feeling a few questions my fellow virgo did you cheat out of impulse or because you are not satisfied ? Are you afraid he might do it or have you talked really good about it ?
What is his moon sign and what is yours and what is your mars and venus sign.
The love between a Virgo and Sagittarius can indeed be very deep deeper then most people think Sagittarius and Virgo love eachother harder then any other sign does they are both mutable and have a problem with making up their mind they both are strong communicators even though they are different.
They both stimulate eachother but what you need to guard for is that you should not drop things or people the moment you want to continue the relationship but do show him you wanna do things together keep involving him into things show him your interest for his things stay enthusiastic. A Sagittarius can forgive very easy like a Virgo but will not forget so he will mention it and it can take months maybe a year give it time but make things straight right away so he doesn't keep repeating you cheating don't try to justify or anger him because Sagittarius are often not revengeful but they are impulsive so they can act on anger.
Instead try to talk about it whenever he feels like talking about it even if you have to explain it a 100 times show him you care and consider his feelings do not mention anything negative or say anything to make an excuse to not hear him out because that will eventually drive him in to the arms of another women.
Good luck with everything i am with a sagg so if you have any questions feel free to ask
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I got virgo sun venus in libra mars in scorpio and Leo sun
Thanks I'm doing all I can...Our mercuries are squared too. Mine is in libra his is in Capricorn.
I never realized how similar but different we are going through this whole thing. It really tested and brought to light a lot of our traits. I cheated out of impulse and the situation was very convoluted and difficult. He's the first guy I ever truly respected. Sag does not bend and it's new to me and I adore it. I feel crazy with him because compared to him I look completely insane. I can't bounce my virgo nervous energy off him like I can with others. He doesn't try to control it or change it or feed it, in fact he doesn't interact at all with it and even though I hate that because it doesn't indulge me i think it's the best possible thing for me so I can have personal responsibility over my thoughts and emotions and feelings.
Posted by pluto-uranusI see and understand. So you have Mars in Scorpio huh? Lol so do I...always giving even to the last drop of blood until it reaches the end. I get it. Believing so hard in something that you go all in never giving up...ready to die.Posted by beautifulsoul74Actually it was the other way around. He was trying to fix me our entire relationship and took it upon himself to help me because he saw himself in me. He pitied me. I reminded him of where he was years ago. Fine analysis, but I was in a toxic codependent relationship before and this feels very different from it. I severed ties continuously many times but he persistently and vehemently asked for me back and it gave me some hope that things can be saved. It's strange, I think he realized how much he did love me but it conflicted directly with my actions and the entire situation and drove him insane. His venus is in aquarius if it matters... before all this he was quite emotionally detached but a different person now. Like he embraced his role. I've never seen him more emotional, broken down, tearful, apologetic, begging, depressed, conflicted, paranoid, masochistic, distraught and I've never seen him more angry, spiteful, vengeful, careless, abusive, mean, jealous, possessive, controlling and I also have never seen him more loving, protective, caring, thoughtful, generous, open, and romantic than I have in our entire relationship. Things stabilized now, of course, but I don't know what kind of a man would willingly go through such turmoil if he didn't love me. Even if he was codependent and had abandonment issues or something or other.
OP, Sag male here.
You said something a couple of pages back that is most likely the reason why youāre in this situation. It basically went like this : āIf he needs me, Iāll stay.ā
Is this to suggest that if he didnāt need you, youād leave? The truth is, youāre addicted to the idea of being needed. I suspect that this Sag was broken when you met him and you tried to fix him. Also, itās most likely why you got involved with the other guy. The trap with ābeing neededā is that it gives people power over you and Iām sorry to say...has nothing to do with love. Also, in my opinion, he doesnāt love you. Contrary to popular belief, Love doesnāt cause pain...ego does. Heās simply stringing you along out of ego. Push-pull. You donāt abuse someone you love...ever. Thatās fundamental.
As painful as this sounds, itās in your best interest to part ways. Itās possible you two could be together later on after healing but I doubt it. Too much damage and the relationship most likely wasnāt solid from the get go. To me, your main problem is trying to fix people. Thatās not the way to go. They have to heal themselves. You can love them and maybe help but I wouldnāt get too involved. Learn to love yourself first...flaws and all...unconditionally. Only then will you meet someone that can reciprocate the love you give.
With the other guy...he was so broken it absolutely terrified me. The amount of fixing he needed was beyond any human limit. He was crying out for help so desperately and selfishly it made me sick knowing that I can't even begin to imagine just how fucked he was. It really woke me up.click to expand
If you are going to walk this path, what you have to make peace with is that a lot of it is out of your control. The only hope for you two is to rebuild the relationship...from scratch. I would put romance on the back burner for now. Even with that, he has to be ready to do so. He may love you, but he needs to fully love himself first. The reason I say that is because despite it all, he probably feels responsible..like he failed you. That makes him feel guilty. If thatās the case he needs to acknowledge those feelings...something even we have a hard time doing. Itās the reason why heās back and forth. Seeing you brings those feelings front and center. Once he acknowledges how he truly feels, he can begin the healing process. Iām not saying this to make you feel guilty. Iām saying it because itās what causes him to not let the past go and move forward. Time is the great equalizer and once he loves himself again, he can then love you the right way. Therefore, try to be his friend and earn his trust back. Itās going to take time and patience. This the test for you to see if you truly love him as well. If you truly believe in āusā then itās going to take hard work and sacrifice to put it back together. Are you ready for that? To take the risk because thereās no guarantee that it will work out. Even if he changes, at that point are you ready to treat the relationship with the integrity it needs? Those are questions you have to answer as well. Good luck
honestly it can go 1 of 2 ways
I personally don't think sex is that big of a deal. I mean if its emotional then that's one thing because I would never want to waste my time with someone that isn't committed to me emotionally but sex is sex.
I think cheating is lame only because if my S/o came up to me and told me that they think they cant be sexually faithful anymore that maybe I would be willing to work out a open arrangement agreement with clear boundaries.
so your sag can forgive you and move on because they love you more and know it was just sex.
or they can leave you for the trust aspect. I mean they trusted you and depend on your honestly and because you can provide that. then they can respect you and will most likely loss interest.
good luck with that.
I personally don't think sex is that big of a deal. I mean if its emotional then that's one thing because I would never want to waste my time with someone that isn't committed to me emotionally but sex is sex.
I think cheating is lame only because if my S/o came up to me and told me that they think they cant be sexually faithful anymore that maybe I would be willing to work out a open arrangement agreement with clear boundaries.
so your sag can forgive you and move on because they love you more and know it was just sex.
or they can leave you for the trust aspect. I mean they trusted you and depend on your honestly and because you can provide that. then they can respect you and will most likely loss interest.
good luck with that.
āRight I cheated on my sag so what shall I do now?ā Is what my mind readšš seriously I donāt know what you should do I would just not tell him š
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