What happens when a Scorpio loses control?

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btw, scorpios don't control other people. They control themselves.


They just control otjers into believing they don't control them?
a scorpio controls themselves, the other person gets butthurt because of their feels and starts throwing a tantrum....

"They can't control meh! I can do whatever I want!"

"They are just manipulating me!!!"

....um.....go ahead? nobody is paying attention to you.

"See— You are super pissed you can't control me."

*scorpio moves on*

"Why is my scorpio ignoring meh?"

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Exactly! —

And final stage 'will my Scorpio come back?'
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to not control myself shows weakness. *shrugs*
Guess you missed Philyra's topic "Scorpio roomate out of control". 🙂

Btw, did you manage to find out - who hacked into your DXP account?! 😕

Can't say for sure - if it was this year of last year - but someone used your account to vent about a Capricorn employee - fucking up at his job... and the one who posted in your place - really lost it cause of that guy. You could literally feel the anger and the desperation over the Internet. Luckily, she found a Gemini to help out - to fix the wrong doings of that Cap - and that calmed her a bit. Or at least that's how the story went... that's how it was told by the one who managed to hack into your account. Since you're a Scorpio, that couldn't be you.

Was it that Capricorn - a revenge move for loosing his job? 😕

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Since they like to control everything what will happen if a Scorpio loses control over the person they like? What will be the next move?
Control everything that we care to. There's a point where effort becomes, well, effort. There's not much point in controlling a person with fear, violence or subterfuge, it's just not as fun as having someone submit or defeat themselves for you. Most of the time it's far more entertaining to heckle people that we no longer like, maybe it'll turn into a rant or a stand up routine. Most of the time you'll never know how deep it all goes until you're roasted.
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to not control myself shows weakness. *shrugs*
Guess you missed Philyra's topic "Scorpio roomate out of control". 🙂

Btw, did you manage to find out - who hacked into your DXP account?! 😕

Can't say for sure - if it was this year of last year - but someone used your account to vent about a Capricorn employee - fucking up at his job... and the one who posted in your place - really lost it cause of that guy. You could literally feel the anger and the desperation over the Internet. Luckily, she found a Gemini to help out - to fix the wrong doings of that Cap - and that calmed her a bit. Or at least that's how the story went... that's how it was told by the one who managed to hack into your account. Since you're a Scorpio, that couldn't be you.

Was it that Capricorn - a revenge move for loosing his job? 😕



I didn't miss her thread. She hides all her topics so I didn't feel the desire to offer any input. Everyone covered it anyways....poor boundaries.



What? You think I lost control of myself in that situation? That's called frustration. You have an aries moon, you know what that's like. Only the eyes of dxp were witness to that frustration. A plan was made, carried out and executed. *shrugs*

It was a taurus, btw. Not a gemini 🙂
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Yes, i know what it's like to have an Aries Moon. I, too, can get really fired-up over some shit - but if i don't sustain it (if i don't poor more gas on fire) - it may take couple of minute or so - till i regain my self-composure. I'm quite expressive too - so if it happens live - the ones who pushed my buttons are sure to know about it. Verbally. I'm not into hurting people (more like standing my ground or fighting back / another extreme - intended for self-defense or protection / not against people i know - let alone loved ones). Even so... frustration denotes a lose of composure (self-control). It's actually an outcome... an emotional response - derived from a situation where one losses its composure. Thus, the more you're in control of your state of being (mental, emotional and physical) - the less likely to get affected by external events that are beyond your control (like people).

Since you're a Scorpio yourself - those statements you made about Scorpios - seemed contradictory. Well, unrealistic - "generally speaking". And that's exactly the point i was trying to make (might apply to some - but from what i witnessed - they sure don't apply to all). So, i apologize for rubbing you the wrong way with my response. That had more to do with those generalizations... It triggered a memory of a Scorpio who puled a knife on his daughters and wife - then latter threaten to kill himself - if his wife would leave him (if that's not loosing control and being controlling at the same time - i don't know what it is). Despite of that - she didn't leave him - nor did she call the cops on him (she's a Scorpio as well : ). On the bright side, shortly after - he found some work abroad - so for most part - he was away for more than a decade. And he changed for better... while she changed for worst. She went through some religious madness - which drove her to isolate herself from the rest of the world - fearing of being bewitched - while her daughters (another Scorpio and a Cancer) - felt compelled to endure that madnesses.

To quote another Scorpio... (:

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Btw, i'm pretty sure you praised a Gemini... -_-

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Open that topic - and i'll prove it. 😛
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You never rub me the wrong way...lol

Frustrstion is not losing control. Acting on that frustration is losing control.

If I would have screamed, smashed things, spammed his facebook page, been physically violent, plotted his demise, anonymously signed him up for magazine subscriptions, flattened his tires, hired a hit man or pulled him out to his car by his ear..that would have been losing control.

I vented to an objective party (dxp). I planned. I safeguarded my team from disaster. I executed a plan.

If you can find that thread....I will be glad to open in. It was a taurus, I promise you that.

I may have praised a gem with an aries moon on my project team but he is not in my department.
lol no joke. there are million fun ways to destroy a person

emotional display =/= losing control, at least others would see it coming lol

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btw, scorpios don't control other people. They control themselves.


They just control otjers into believing they don't control them?
a scorpio controls themselves, the other person gets butthurt because of their feels and starts throwing a tantrum....

"They can't control meh! I can do whatever I want!"

"They are just manipulating me!!!"

....um.....go ahead? nobody is paying attention to you.

"See— You are super pissed you can't control me."

*scorpio moves on*

"Why is my scorpio ignoring meh?"

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Scorpio dominant, here. This. LOLOLOL​!!
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You never rub me the wrong way...lol

Frustrstion is not losing control. Acting on that frustration is losing control.

If I would have screamed, smashed things, spammed his facebook page, been physically violent, plotted his demise, anonymously signed him up for magazine subscriptions, flattened his tires, hired a hit man or pulled him out to his car by his ear..that would have been losing control.

I vented to an objective party (dxp). I planned. I safeguarded my team from disaster. I executed a plan.

If you can find that thread....I will be glad to open in. It was a taurus, I promise you that.

I may have praised a gem with an aries moon on my project team but he is not in my department.
lol, that's such a Scorpio way to look at it (: either black or white / from one extreme to the other). Things don't have to get to that extreme - it's enough for most people to reach a point of frustration and they loose their composure. They're not themselves anymore (hard to talk to and irritable - even if they're just partially absorbed by that frustration). While becoming more conscious of this detail (when that happens) - one might be able to counter it better. The initial phase (that initial poke) - might be quite hard to avoid if not impossible - but if you manage to acknowledge that you're getting frustrated (starting to loose your composure) - you might be able to get enough control over it - so it won't get to the point where it stresses you out. A point where you simply acknowledge the situation for what it is - while shifting the focus on a possible solution (what can be done about it).

It's also worth to be added that - some people work better under stress.

I'm an Aries Moon too but screaming or breaking my shit (like phones or peripheral devices) - is a far as i went. Well, not entirely true... back when i was younger my parents kept pushing my buttons while i was eating - and i end-up throwing away the food in the kitchen sink, or i would throw the spoon or a plastic cup out the window (: still conscious enough not to throw away anything dangerous). Only to calm down shortly after (: almost instantly / that's Aries Moon for you). That's simply what worked - at that time (an unusual communication - between an Aqua and a Gemini : ).

Then again, I'm a mutable sign. Might be different for a fixed sign like Scorpio. One could say - you've answered OP's question: "What happens when a Scorpio losses control?" Thus... that could be a Scorpio's greatest fear (to loose control - and do something regretful). Right?

PS.Could be that Gemini then. I don't remember the Taurus - but i know you praised a Gem for taking over... 😛
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I think of you are dealing with a Scorpio and you have half of brain - you know not to make moves that you might be sorry after. So you control yourself because you know better! And of course some will feel like it's perfectly all right to keep yourself from making a grave mistake - otjers will feel suffocated by not being able to act stupid or blub crap - so they feel controlled!
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My life has been a series of letting go

Letting go of all my family, friends, homes, my country of birth, partners etc so I had no choice but to let go of control

In a couple of weeks our son will graduate from school.....the ceremony will be very moving and I am in some way dreading it. In this ultimate letting go, I will allow myself to let go of the most loved and imporant person in my life and to some extent a part of myself

I have to do this in order to move forward and in true Scorpio style will allow myself to surrender all control and allow some kind of rebirth to occur

Scary stuff

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If a Scorpio thinks it's possible to control anyone but themselves they have a lot to learn.

What will be the next move in the case they haven't been disillusioned about that notion yet? Disappointment or resentment, most likely.
I think the need to control everything outside of themselves is more of a capricorn thing, tbh.

I've seen caps lose their shit when things don't go their way and people don't do what they expect them to do. They can resort to being really mean spirited.





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Maybe, I haven't had any Capricorns seriously involved in my life so I can't weigh in on that, really. When I was a little kid I had a Cap friend who liked to try and play puppet master with her friends & chess master with her social groups, but that might've just been typical cliquey "popular" girl kind of behavior.

I think it CAN happen with Scorpio sometimes, albeit maybe not for the same reasons. Perhaps because Scorpios like to control -their- own world. Within a Scorpio's little world there are often one or two people who they care deeply enough about to become vulnerable as a result of. Scorpios likely will be indifferent to what other people decide to do with their lives as long as it doesn't have the potential to negatively impact themselves or someone they love. In this way, the desire to have control can arise- it's more of a defensive thing. But it's something most Scorpios mature past and realize isn't possible fairly early on in life.

Everyone is different, there are always variables and I could be wrong.
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My life has been a series of letting go

Letting go of all my family, friends, homes, my country of birth, partners etc so I had no choice but to let go of control

In a couple of weeks our son will graduate from school.....the ceremony will be very moving and I am in some way dreading it. In this ultimate letting go, I will allow myself to let go of the most loved and imporant person in my life and to some extent a part of myself

I have to do this in order to move forward and in true Scorpio style will allow myself to surrender all control and allow some kind of rebirth to occur

Scary stuff



Hugs to you Star! Being able to adapt to change is such an important life tool, and it opens the doorway for endless possibilities that may come our way... My life has been full of adventures and trials (not changing countries but moving across the country at 18), and I wouldn't change a thing about it. The more we give up control, the more in control we are!

Seeing your sons move on to the next stage that we as moms have groomed them for is scary, but keep the faith that you have prepped him well 🤗

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My life has been a series of letting go

Letting go of all my family, friends, homes, my country of birth, partners etc so I had no choice but to let go of control

In a couple of weeks our son will graduate from school.....the ceremony will be very moving and I am in some way dreading it. In this ultimate letting go, I will allow myself to let go of the most loved and imporant person in my life and to some extent a part of myself

I have to do this in order to move forward and in true Scorpio style will allow myself to surrender all control and allow some kind of rebirth to occur

Scary stuff



Hugs to you Star! Being able to adapt to change is such an important life tool, and it opens the doorway for endless possibilities that may come our way... My life has been full of adventures and trials (not changing countries but moving across the country at 18), and I wouldn't change a thing about it. The more we give up control, the more in control we are!

Seeing your sons move on to the next stage that we as moms have groomed them for is scary, but keep the faith that you have prepped him well 🤗

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Thanks Jules.....such a lovely insightful post....🙂

You are so right....giving it up brings it back to us.

Our lad is doing great.....he never brought one scrap of trouble to our door.....amazing person and seeing him go forward into an exciting new future is wonderful

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Sorry for going off topic OP. The Scorps I know when they feel out of control of a situation either go into research mode and investigate the issue so they have a better understanding of it for the future, or they go into a depressive state and hermit themselves for awhile until they are able to deal with society again...

I'm not a Scorpio sun, but have Mars/Neptune conjunction in Scorpio ruled 11th and 12th house and am water dominant. My coping mechanism is the second option, I withdraw until the healing takes place from whatever wrong was done. The withdrawal's necessary for a couple of reasons, I can't handle being around people at the time and need to be alone, and I don't want to expose the people I love to my downer mood.
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My best friend is a scorpio, she's gorgeous, alluring, smart, loyal, ect...

But when it comes to her emotions or matters of the heart...I find scorpio a little hypocrite...not in a bad way...but I don't understand how you could ask someone to devoted themselve body and soul to you while you keep everything from them? (not refering to cheating)...going as far as lying, testing and hurting the other person in the process...and when they eventually lose that person... well it was because they are not worth it and that they are right all along...

You guys keep talking about self control and such yet all I see are excuses. I mean you scorpio gals have pretty much everything in your arsenal to have any men you want at your mercy... but then you torture them, you toy with them...To me that is not control... control is being able to take action ... being able to be vulnerable....being able to love and accept the fact that anything can happened... good or bad.

I feel like my Scorpio friend is chasing something she can't have... and that she is more fascinated with the ideals itself then the relationship itself...it's like whenever she know she can have something she just lose interest and move on. It's like the only ones worth it are the ones she can't have....

I've seen her lose people that cared for her deeply, not because they are not worth it... but because they always always always end up believing they she is better off without them...I love my friend to bits but and I'm sure she love me and my husband a lot also... but our relationship is different, it is an easy one where we have no EXPECTATIONS from each other...
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My best friend is a scorpio, she's gorgeous, alluring, smart, loyal, ect...

But when it comes to her emotions or matters of the heart...I find scorpio a little hypocrite...not in a bad way...but I don't understand how you could ask someone to devoted themselve body and soul to you while you keep everything from them? (not refering to cheating)...going as far as lying, testing and hurting the other person in the process...and when they eventually lose that person... well it was because they are not worth it and that they are right all along...

You guys keep talking about self control and such yet all I see are excuses. I mean you scorpio gals have pretty much everything in your arsenal to have any men you want at your mercy... but then you torture them, you toy with them...To me that is not control... control is being able to take action ... being able to be vulnerable....being able to love and accept the fact that anything can happened... good or bad.

I feel like my Scorpio friend is chasing something she can't have... and that she is more fascinated with the ideals itself then the relationship itself...it's like whenever she know she can have something she just lose interest and move on. It's like the only ones worth it are the ones she can't have....

I've seen her lose people that cared for her deeply, not because they are not worth it... but because they always always always end up believing they she is better off without them...I love my friend to bits but and I'm sure she love me and my husband a lot also... but our relationship is different, it is an easy one where we have no EXPECTATIONS from each other...
Sounds like your best friend sucks as a person.
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The question was "What will happen if a Scorpio loses control over the person they like?"

This question doesn't even compute with me.

Scratching my head and thinking the same thing. Many are talking about something very different than the actual posted title/question.


everyone is a master at "scorpio"

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Lol! I just sit back and take it all in. I learn nothing new everyday.

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My best friend is a scorpio, she's gorgeous, alluring, smart, loyal, ect...

But when it comes to her emotions or matters of the heart...I find scorpio a little hypocrite...not in a bad way...but I don't understand how you could ask someone to devoted themselve body and soul to you while you keep everything from them? (not refering to cheating)...going as far as lying, testing and hurting the other person in the process...and when they eventually lose that person... well it was because they are not worth it and that they are right all along...

You guys keep talking about self control and such yet all I see are excuses. I mean you scorpio gals have pretty much everything in your arsenal to have any men you want at your mercy... but then you torture them, you toy with them...To me that is not control... control is being able to take action ... being able to be vulnerable....being able to love and accept the fact that anything can happened... good or bad.

I feel like my Scorpio friend is chasing something she can't have... and that she is more fascinated with the ideals itself then the relationship itself...it's like whenever she know she can have something she just lose interest and move on. It's like the only ones worth it are the ones she can't have....

I've seen her lose people that cared for her deeply, not because they are not worth it... but because they always always always end up believing they she is better off without them...I love my friend to bits but and I'm sure she love me and my husband a lot also... but our relationship is different, it is an easy one where we have no EXPECTATIONS from each other...

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Looks like you had a lot to get off your chest.

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My best friend is a scorpio, she's gorgeous, alluring, smart, loyal, ect...

But when it comes to her emotions or matters of the heart...I find scorpio a little hypocrite...not in a bad way...but I don't understand how you could ask someone to devoted themselve body and soul to you while you keep everything from them? (not refering to cheating)...going as far as lying, testing and hurting the other person in the process...and when they eventually lose that person... well it was because they are not worth it and that they are right all along...

You guys keep talking about self control and such yet all I see are excuses. I mean you scorpio gals have pretty much everything in your arsenal to have any men you want at your mercy... but then you torture them, you toy with them...To me that is not control... control is being able to take action ... being able to be vulnerable....being able to love and accept the fact that anything can happened... good or bad.

I feel like my Scorpio friend is chasing something she can't have... and that she is more fascinated with the ideals itself then the relationship itself...it's like whenever she know she can have something she just lose interest and move on. It's like the only ones worth it are the ones she can't have....

I've seen her lose people that cared for her deeply, not because they are not worth it... but because they always always always end up believing they she is better off without them...I love my friend to bits but and I'm sure she love me and my husband a lot also... but our relationship is different, it is an easy one where we have no EXPECTATIONS from each other...
What does this have to do with the OP's question?
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