
Enfant-Terrible-II
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Posted by BumboklaatPosted by AntiphatesPosted by BumboklaatPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bumboklaat
When I first saw it, I thought it was fake mainly cause of the fake mic sound and seeing both guys stance and wills hand aiming down with a weak slap hand.
Then when I knew it was fake was the reactions, Chris Rock pretty much gave it away, even will kinda laughs as he's walking back. As someone who's been in fights and seen them firsthand, they rarely elicit those type of reactions, even from bystanders.
Then to add to it, just think how someone can walk so casually towards someone and hit them then walk back. You'd definitely have some background people step in.
Lol @ the everything-is-a-conspiracy-and-the-earth-is-flat mofos. You have absolute 0 instinct about anything real anymore
It was not an act. Your analysis sucks bc you are seeing what you choose to see due to your flat-earther gene and ignoring all the other signs. Here is what I see
1. Will Smith laughed at the joke first. If it was fake, his reaction would have been consistant from the moment they cut to him.
2. After the slap Chris Rock obviousely had a hard time getting back to his speech, performing as if in shock. There was no punchline in his performance which they would have had if it was staged and not just left it out there hanging..
3. Will Smith dropping the F-bomb. Unacceptable at the Oscars!
4. Behind-the-scenes video of Will's colleagues comforting him after they cut to commercial
5. Chris declining to file a police report, according to LAPD! Surely if it was fake the LAPD would have been informed beforehand, that's how that works.
6. It's not a seedy stand up club so joking about violence - especially two black men getting at it - would have been inappropriate in this time and place and the Acadamy wouldn't stand by it
7. The fact that they apperantly cut the live show in the US right as Chris was about to get slapped but this is only something one DXP'er claimed so may not be true. The rest are facts.
How could all of this have escaped you when chose to go the "fake" route? Talk about lazy thinking
It was clearly fake lol. Anyone who thinks it's real has been watching too much TV.
Good analysis tho. Idk why people get all upset. If you guys think it's absolutely real then why even react. Defending it emotionally is a clear indicator that you want it to be real. You guys need to get out more
Haha. Dude I just read what you posted. The funniest one was the cop theory. You guys are seriously in a comfy zone as to how things work in the real world.
If it was fake they both would deserve Oscars for the best perfomance.
Why would someone as PR conscious as Will Smith agree to a deal that makes him look like a joke? All of his previous PR work and externally projected image tries to make him and his family look the model of happiness wholesomeness.
Cui bono?
He defended his wife. The narrative continues. He was consoled and given an award after assaulting someone.
He's a good actor but not psychopath level, they're the most convincing cause they actually believe it. Will couldn't even hold his laughter.click to expand

Posted by BumboklaatPosted by AntiphatesPosted by BumboklaatPosted by AntiphatesPosted by BumboklaatPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bumboklaat
When I first saw it, I thought it was fake mainly cause of the fake mic sound and seeing both guys stance and wills hand aiming down with a weak slap hand.
Then when I knew it was fake was the reactions, Chris Rock pretty much gave it away, even will kinda laughs as he's walking back. As someone who's been in fights and seen them firsthand, they rarely elicit those type of reactions, even from bystanders.
Then to add to it, just think how someone can walk so casually towards someone and hit them then walk back. You'd definitely have some background people step in.
Lol @ the everything-is-a-conspiracy-and-the-earth-is-flat mofos. You have absolute 0 instinct about anything real anymore
It was not an act. Your analysis sucks bc you are seeing what you choose to see due to your flat-earther gene and ignoring all the other signs. Here is what I see
1. Will Smith laughed at the joke first. If it was fake, his reaction would have been consistant from the moment they cut to him.
2. After the slap Chris Rock obviousely had a hard time getting back to his speech, performing as if in shock. There was no punchline in his performance which they would have had if it was staged and not just left it out there hanging..
3. Will Smith dropping the F-bomb. Unacceptable at the Oscars!
4. Behind-the-scenes video of Will's colleagues comforting him after they cut to commercial
5. Chris declining to file a police report, according to LAPD! Surely if it was fake the LAPD would have been informed beforehand, that's how that works.
6. It's not a seedy stand up club so joking about violence - especially two black men getting at it - would have been inappropriate in this time and place and the Acadamy wouldn't stand by it
7. The fact that they apperantly cut the live show in the US right as Chris was about to get slapped but this is only something one DXP'er claimed so may not be true. The rest are facts.
How could all of this have escaped you when chose to go the "fake" route? Talk about lazy thinking
It was clearly fake lol. Anyone who thinks it's real has been watching too much TV.
Good analysis tho. Idk why people get all upset. If you guys think it's absolutely real then why even react. Defending it emotionally is a clear indicator that you want it to be real. You guys need to get out more
Haha. Dude I just read what you posted. The funniest one was the cop theory. You guys are seriously in a comfy zone as to how things work in the real world.
If it was fake they both would deserve Oscars for the best perfomance.
Why would someone as PR conscious as Will Smith agree to a deal that makes him look like a joke? All of his previous PR work and externally projected image tries to make him and his family look the model of happiness wholesomeness.
Cui bono?
He defended his wife. The narrative continues. He was consoled and given an award after assaulting someone.
He's a good actor but not psychopath level, they're the most convincing cause they actually believe it. Will couldn't even hold his laughter.
My questions remains: Why would he agree to something that makes him look thus laughable to most people?
I just answered it. He defended his wife and was consoled and given an award.click to expand

Posted by Truemara
I mean imagine married to a cold, unemotional calculating wife. Enough to drive anyone mad lol



Posted by Truemara
They are talking about taking the award from him right now
I kinda feel sorry for him cuz Jada is taking him down.


Posted by Truemara
They are talking about taking the award from him right now

Posted by LentoBull91Posted by Truemara
They are talking about taking the award from him right now
Iāve been saying they should take it away from him and give one to Chris for the outstanding performance he displayed last night. He handled the situation the best way possible and the Oscarās should thank him for that at least.click to expand


Posted by MareInfame
And then when the reality of what he did hits him⦠he starts crying ššššš
Just awfulā¦
Had he really meant it. He wouldnāt have regretted a damn thing. But he was crying because he was not fully in agreement with his behavior.
He needs to do things HIS WAY⦠not JADAās way. That is just hell. And obviously not working for him.


Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by LentoBull91Posted by Truemara
They are talking about taking the award from him right now
Iāve been saying they should take it away from him and give one to Chris for the outstanding performance he displayed last night. He handled the situation the best way possible and the Oscarās should thank him for that at least.
Bytch plz. Will won best actor fair and square. The other thing has nothing to do with the movie he madeclick to expand


Posted by TruemaraPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by LentoBull91Posted by Truemara
They are talking about taking the award from him right now
Iāve been saying they should take it away from him and give one to Chris for the outstanding performance he displayed last night. He handled the situation the best way possible and the Oscarās should thank him for that at least.
Bytch plz. Will won best actor fair and square. The other thing has nothing to do with the movie he made
Donāt call me bitch!!! Iām telling what is going on here. They are seriously considering taking it away. Donāt care if you agree or not Iām just telling you a factclick to expand

Posted by LentoBull91Posted by TruemaraPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by LentoBull91Posted by Truemara
They are talking about taking the award from him right now
Iāve been saying they should take it away from him and give one to Chris for the outstanding performance he displayed last night. He handled the situation the best way possible and the Oscarās should thank him for that at least.
Bytch plz. Will won best actor fair and square. The other thing has nothing to do with the movie he made
Donāt call me bitch!!! Iām telling what is going on here. They are seriously considering taking it away. Donāt care if you agree or not Iām just telling you a fact
I think that was meant for meclick to expand

Posted by DonnaLibra
He should have slapped Jada.

Posted by virgenethliac
I was wrong about will smith. Yeah he was a little bitch when he decided to whistleblow his relationship details all over the place, but last night changed my mind about him.

Posted by LentoBull91Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by LentoBull91Posted by Truemara
They are talking about taking the award from him right now
Iāve been saying they should take it away from him and give one to Chris for the outstanding performance he displayed last night. He handled the situation the best way possible and the Oscarās should thank him for that at least.
Bytch plz. Will won best actor fair and square. The other thing has nothing to do with the movie he made
They donāt have to give will shit for his performance in that movie if they donāt want too. They choose to have the show and give the awards to actors and actresses, they also have the right to take them away if you fuck up and make the Oscarās look like another the source awards ceremony. I wouldnāt want some little boy who canāt control his emotions to represent my award ceremony the way will did.
I would take away the award I gave him and give it to the runner up because I wouldnāt want him to represent my ceremony honoring the actors and actresses who have better class than him. I would rather award someone like Chris for being the model of how a man should carry himself in that kind of situation in a setting like the freaking Oscarās.click to expand


Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by LentoBull91Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by LentoBull91Posted by Truemara
They are talking about taking the award from him right now
Iāve been saying they should take it away from him and give one to Chris for the outstanding performance he displayed last night. He handled the situation the best way possible and the Oscarās should thank him for that at least.
Bytch plz. Will won best actor fair and square. The other thing has nothing to do with the movie he made
They donāt have to give will shit for his performance in that movie if they donāt want too. They choose to have the show and give the awards to actors and actresses, they also have the right to take them away if you fuck up and make the Oscarās look like another the source awards ceremony. I wouldnāt want some little boy who canāt control his emotions to represent my award ceremony the way will did.
I would take away the award I gave him and give it to the runner up because I wouldnāt want him to represent my ceremony honoring the actors and actresses who have better class than him. I would rather award someone like Chris for being the model of how a man should carry himself in that kind of situation in a setting like the freaking Oscarās.
He still best actor.... which is what the ceremony is about... and remains best actor even if they take the award from him bc the votes have been cast... so taking away his award serves no purpose to what the award show is about, which is awarding best performance of [insert year]click to expand


Posted by LadyNeptune
We have a lot of work to do as a society.
Whether this slap was real or contrived, look at all the people in this thread blaming Will's actions on Jada.
He is a grown ass man responsible for his own self.


Posted by Bumboklaat
Anything can make sense if you want it to. The narrative is irrelevant if you believe it to be fake anyways. All your questions actually make sense but it's not that deep.
The actual act was fake. Forget the narrative, that goes way too much into speculation and things we don't actually see.
I'm talking about the actual act. There's no way someone reacts like that in a real situation. Even the hit was fake af. Who slaps like that? it's so theatrical. If I saw that on the street I'd laugh, it's some Broadway meets Disco movements. Plus Chris sticking his chin out right before and then doing that exaggerated pull back as if he'd connected with a full hand. It's clearly rehearsed.
And that's not even the biggest giveaway. The least believable was Wills yelling afterwards. I know he can do better than that. And his acceptance speech was mostly believable until he made overdramatic pauses and did the lying eye. Then Denzel trying to keep a straight face lol.

Posted by BumboklaatPosted by SassyKiwi
The more you replay it the more fake it all looks
Your comment made me feel like Willy Wonka did when Charlie gave him back the Everlasting Gobstopperclick to expand


Posted by neves
Kudos to Chris Rock for being a good sport about it. And fuck people like Will Smith - the type of people who would harass, hit or try to cancel a Comedian - just cause they can't take a joke (as if the whole world revolves around them and their personal issues).

Posted by BumboklaatPosted by LadyNeptune
We have a lot of work to do as a society.
Whether this slap was real or contrived, look at all the people in this thread blaming Will's actions on Jada.
He is a grown ass man responsible for his own self.
Dang, that's the only comment that's made any senseclick to expand

Posted by ImperfectStormPosted by Fleshpot
Chrisā joke was out of line, but Will overreacted big time. How he publicly assaulted someone on stage, and the show just continued on as though nothing happened was odd. I thought for sure he would get escorted to the exit.
Guyās on some kind of crazy power trip.
I donāt know that I would consider it a power trip.. more of a protective urge. He initially laughed at the joke, until he noticed the discomfort on Jadaās face then I think it evoked a strong emotional response from him. I remember back in December she talked publicly about her struggles with alopecia, so itās a known sore spot for her.click to expand

Posted by Prince_Pisces
Are we sure this isn't fake? Cause like....who is even watching the Oscars anymore? They need to drum up interest somehow.

Posted by BumboklaatPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by BumboklaatPosted by LadyNeptune
We have a lot of work to do as a society.
Whether this slap was real or contrived, look at all the people in this thread blaming Will's actions on Jada.
He is a grown ass man responsible for his own self.
Dang, that's the only comment that's made any sense
Said the person who has no grasp on reality
Why you still following me? Leave me be
You can be Enfant and I can be Bumbo and live happily ever after in a field of flowers with lush streams and Will Smith will come by and say helloclick to expand

Posted by Bumboklaat
I can believe the narrative but I don't because the act was fake, it lends doubt to the backstory.
If the slap or the acting was convincing then I would believe it.

Posted by Bumboklaat
A hard slap at least. More believable with an over the shoulder punch which is the norm for a sucker punch. Also a more emotional reaction. It's just not consistent with what I've seen in real situations

Posted by BumboklaatPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bumboklaat
I can believe the narrative but I don't because the act was fake, it lends doubt to the backstory.
If the slap or the acting was convincing then I would believe it.
Convincing HOW? The way movies are convincing? This is real life, things don't play out like in the movies.
And why is the media all over it if it's fake? Why has the Acadamy acknowledged it was real?
I've seen enough WWE and real life to notice the difference. Why do you believe the academy. Do you have their number? Do you have the inside scoop?
Since when is the media the authority over what's real?
Lol. I see your point but dude all these dubious institutions you are lending credibility to. It's ultimately entertainment. Which makes a lot of money.click to expand


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When I first saw it, I thought it was fake mainly cause of the fake mic sound and seeing both guys stance and wills hand aiming down with a weak slap hand.
Then when I knew it was fake was the reactions, Chris Rock pretty much gave it away, even will kinda laughs as he's walking back. As someone who's been in fights and seen them firsthand, they rarely elicit those type of reactions, even from bystanders.
Then to add to it, just think how someone can walk so casually towards someone and hit them then walk back. You'd definitely have some background people step in.
Lol @ the everything-is-a-conspiracy-and-the-earth-is-flat mofos. You have absolute 0 instinct about anything real anymore
It was not an act. Your analysis sucks bc you are seeing what you choose to see due to your flat-earther gene and ignoring all the other signs. Here is what I see
1. Will Smith laughed at the joke first. If it was fake, his reaction would have been consistant from the moment they cut to him.
2. After the slap Chris Rock obviousely had a hard time getting back to his speech, performing as if in shock. There was no punchline in his performance which they would have had if it was staged and not just left it out there hanging..
3. Will Smith dropping the F-bomb. Unacceptable at the Oscars!
4. Behind-the-scenes video of Will's colleagues comforting him after they cut to commercial
5. Chris declining to file a police report, according to LAPD! Surely if it was fake the LAPD would have been informed beforehand, that's how that works.
6. It's not a seedy stand up club so joking about violence - especially two black men getting at it - would have been inappropriate in this time and place and the Acadamy wouldn't stand by it
7. The fact that they apperantly cut the live show in the US right as Chris was about to get slapped but this is only something one DXP'er claimed so may not be true. The rest are facts.
How could all of this have escaped you when chose to go the "fake" route? Talk about lazy thinking
It was clearly fake lol. Anyone who thinks it's real has been watching too much TV.
Good analysis tho. Idk why people get all upset. If you guys think it's absolutely real then why even react. Defending it emotionally is a clear indicator that you want it to be real. You guys need to get out more
Haha. Dude I just read what you posted. The funniest one was the cop theory. You guys are seriously in a comfy zone as to how things work in the real world.
If it was fake they both would deserve Oscars for the best perfomance.
Why would someone as PR conscious as Will Smith agree to a deal that makes him look like a joke? All of his previous PR work and externally projected image tries to make him and his family look the model of happiness wholesomeness.
Cui bono?
He defended his wife. The narrative continues. He was consoled and given an award after assaulting someone.
He's a good actor but not psychopath level, they're the most convincing cause they actually believe it. Will couldn't even hold his laughter.
My questions remains: Why would he agree to something that makes him look thus laughable to most people?
I just answered it. He defended his wife and was consoled and given an award.
Right, so you think he agreed to it to look like he is defending his wife and get an Oscar at the cost of being laughed at even more by people?
It's honorable. He won't get laughed at. His peers defending him is part of the act. Hollywood is the moral authority. Anyone who laughs at him will be fringe and just help to popularize the event. The larger goal is popularity.
So far the majority seems to think that he is even more of a joke now.
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It got them back into the public eye for a moment, but it is very unlikely that it will translate into future attention and viewers.
They can literally make anything up.
They also moralize everything, our country was founded by puritans who went on witch hunts and by people who saw different races as inhuman
Now the crazy part is that popularity trumps( ignore the pun)logic
Just look at how many famous people/politicians have "absolved/redeemed" themselves. Look at our President, our "leaders" who are responsible for several civilian deaths. Although they personally don't do the work, they get the common man to do it, that way they can keep on preaching. It's a common human trait to hide the wolf between the sheep
It's also a common and psychological trait too look at certainties where there are none because it makes us feel better.
That's what makes conspiratorial like the one you display so attractive.
That's true but that slap and drama afterwards was fake af
You understand that authenticity doesn't always like authenticity to other people?
No I don't understand that particular comment.
My bad. I forgot the "look".
My question was if you understand that someone can act authentically without looking authentic to you or other people?
What do you think an authentic action from Will Smith would have been?
Yes of course. I often question myself and try to see things from different perspectives.
It would have to have been a serious moment of weakness for him to do that. I don't see it happening. But that goes into the whole narrative and moral, psychological suppositions.
The narrative can be believable tho. Someone insults your wife or family your gonna be upset and likely react.
In that regard I have nothing to say, everyone believes what they will.
I wouldn't say thinking that everyone can have their breaking points and eventually snap is a entering a narrative. If anything it's the opposite because it doesn't follow a consistent logic.
What would have made the act believable to you?
If the slap or the acting was convincing then I would believe it.
Yeah, but what would it have to look like for your to convince you?
A hard slap at least. More believable with an over the shoulder punch which is the norm for a sucker punch. Also a more emotional reaction. It's just not consistent with what I've seen in real situations
Do you think it was an authentic bitchslap?
Not even close. If you look at theatrical slaps like in soap operas or WWE(wrestling) theyre all similar. They involve fingers barely making contact with the chin and a cross motion not perpendicular to the ground. Classic theatre slap.
If youre gonna hit someone you're gonna bury it in their face, not do Kung Fu theatrics
Could it be that he goes by the muscle memory of what he has learned on set?
@antiphates
I'm sure it helps, but I'm sure they rehearsed it. I think everyone's in on it. The reactions are mostly unbelievable. In a few years you'll hear a lower tier actor say it was all scripted in an obscure podcastclick to expand

Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by DonnaLibra
He should have slapped Jada.
The fact he has no issue slapping someone on a national televised stage leads me to believe its very possible physical abuse could be occurring behind the scenes in their home.
Gross take to wish violence on someone tho. Your wrong for that.click to expand

Posted by BumboklaatPosted by LadyNeptune
Definitely not staged. Of course.
The ratings just jumped an unheard 50+ % from last years life support ratings.
What a natural rebound from what was historic lows.
Actors acting for ratings and academy acknowledgement?! Gasp never. Totally out of the realm of possibility.
If this was not scripted they would've already removed Will from Academy membership. If they do so I'll be proved wrong.
It's quite sad they have to unite in this way. It's like those pledge funds. For only 1 dollar a day you too can support a struggling Hollywood celebrity get their daily Starbucksclick to expand




Posted by MareInfamePosted by PoshChickenLove1111
It was real. I've trained/competed muay thai for 15 years, boxing for 7, and have done other martial arts. Will Smith is not a professional fighter, but his intent was to connect somehow. He reduced the impact of whatever he threw with his stance (on purpose) so he could just send a message, not so he could kill the guy and knock his teeth out...just because it looked theatrical, doesn't mean it was staged. It doesn't make sense that the Oscar's would create a fake narrative pitting two people of colour against each other (especially in the current political climate), nor does it make sense to stage the leading actor engaging in a violent act and then consequently receiving an award after. I personally do not see how that would be part of an act or skit, seems counterproductive. Also, aren't will and his wife scientologists? Hollywood produces some weirdos and strange ass behavior. Yes, he went too far with the alopecia joke....but to become violent over that? Come on. This sends the message that every comedian will be canceled if they push the envelope. Yet another unstable libra I've come across, no big surprise.
Ooh⦠Iād like to know more about your training, impressive amount of years šš¼šš»šš»šš»
I agree with all you wrote. Only correction is on Scientology - they arenāt Scientologist.click to expand

Posted by DonnaLibraPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by DonnaLibra
He should have slapped Jada.
The fact he has no issue slapping someone on a national televised stage leads me to believe its very possible physical abuse could be occurring behind the scenes in their home.
Gross take to wish violence on someone tho. Your wrong for that.
Oh please, if anyone is getting abused around there it's cuckold Will, not Jada.click to expand

Posted by aquarius09
Dad Joke Alert: There can be 100 people in the room. 99 of them wonāt slap you, but 1 Will.

Posted by alexscariesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by DonnaLibraPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by DonnaLibra
He should have slapped Jada.
The fact he has no issue slapping someone on a national televised stage leads me to believe its very possible physical abuse could be occurring behind the scenes in their home.
Gross take to wish violence on someone tho. Your wrong for that.
Oh please, if anyone is getting abused around there it's cuckold Will, not Jada.
He's well documented cheating on her for decades. But I don't see you advocating for domestic physical violence against his person, only hers.
Being cheated on is not cool. Neither is wishing physical harm on someone. You still wrong for that.
She was cheating on him with Tupacclick to expand


Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bumboklaat
When I first saw it, I thought it was fake mainly cause of the fake mic sound and seeing both guys stance and wills hand aiming down with a weak slap hand.
Then when I knew it was fake was the reactions, Chris Rock pretty much gave it away, even will kinda laughs as he's walking back. As someone who's been in fights and seen them firsthand, they rarely elicit those type of reactions, even from bystanders.
Then to add to it, just think how someone can walk so casually towards someone and hit them then walk back. You'd definitely have some background people step in.
Lol @ the everything-is-a-conspiracy-and-the-earth-is-flat mofos. You have absolute 0 instinct about anything real anymore
It was not an act. Your analysis sucks bc you are seeing what you choose to see due to your flat-earther gene and ignoring all the other signs. Here is what I see
1. Will Smith laughed at the joke first. If it was fake, his reaction would have been consistant from the moment they cut to him.
2. After the slap Chris Rock obviousely had a hard time getting back to his speech, performing as if in shock. There was no punchline in his performance which they would have had if it was staged and not just left it out there hanging..
3. Will Smith dropping the F-bomb. Unacceptable at the Oscars!
4. Behind-the-scenes video of Will's colleagues comforting him after they cut to commercial
5. Chris declining to file a police report, according to LAPD! Surely if it was fake the LAPD would have been informed beforehand, that's how that works.
6. It's not a seedy stand up club so joking about violence - especially two black men getting at it - would have been inappropriate in this time and place and the Acadamy wouldn't stand by it
7. The fact that they apperantly cut the live show in the US right as Chris was about to get slapped but this is only something one DXP'er claimed so may not be true. The rest are facts.
How could all of this have escaped you when chose to go the "fake" route? Talk about lazy thinkingclick to expand
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Honestly I don't get how he can get his dick hard for her when the occassion calls but to each their own I guess