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"... we should hang out ...and I politely tell her she is not the type of person i would be friends with ... and she says uuuggghh this is why I can't be friends with women"

first the girl got defensive then she told that.

she didn't say it a priori. as a principal strategy in her approach.

a little wishy-washy. better she's not friend of a ScorpMooner. for her own sake.
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It’s like people are more butthurt about the honesty lmao

I’ve had times where colleagues wanted to form friendships outside of work and rather than me having the guts to say nah, stayed mum and just never followed through. And that seems to upset people too so *shrugs*

I would also see it as a red flag if someone made blanket statements about a whole gender (or race/religion etc).. Cuz that’s just irrational.

And no it’s not flattering if they want you to be their one friend whose the exception.

yess that was me as well in my younger days people that I didn't want to be friends with I would stay quiet and let the friendship fade slowly and it would leave people hurt and confused I told her the truth and when she asked why I told her the truth on that as well ...

and just as you said anyone that make blanket statements about whole genders, races, etc. is a HUGE RED FLAG .. at least for me
I don't like women but
I don't like men but
I don't like white people but.
I don't like black people but.

its creepy .. and like you said not flattering at all to be an exception...
there are plenty of amazing women out there that would bend over backwards to help those in need especially friends and family
not saying the lady is a terrible person ...but she is not the type of person I would vibe with outside of work
I just think we would be better from afar ...
thank you for trying to seeing where im coming from
and not pushing a friendship that Im not comfortable with and the lady wont benefit from anyway

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Seems like she wanted to make you the token female friend. Not flattering at all.
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It’s like people are more butthurt about the honesty lmao

I’ve had times where colleagues wanted to form friendships outside of work and rather than me having the guts to say nah, stayed mum and just never followed through. And that seems to upset people too so *shrugs*

I would also see it as a red flag if someone made blanket statements about a whole gender (or race/religion etc).. Cuz that’s just irrational.

And no it’s not flattering if they want you to be their one friend whose the exception.



not even, its her judging her without fully knowing her, cuz i know i don't hang with coworkers or befriend them, work stays at work so if someone were to ask to hang out i'd say "sorry, i don't have the time, thank you tho" but then again i stay quiet @ work don't find a reason to talk if it isn't work related click to expand



So people shouldn’t be held accountable to what they say?

Like I said to another poster, people have deal breakers and for the OP this was one of them. OP is entitled to have them and she was honest about not wanting to form a friendship. click to expand

not if they're not hurting anyone on a deep level seems more like OP is annoyed by her traits it's not like her coworker is going out of her way to chant her dislike for women, like what are you a prosecutor?

OP is entitled to have her deal breakers, her deal breakers being deal breakers can be my deal breaker and i'm being honest about my view click to expand
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Lol and the OP is being called out for taking things personal..

Disagree on *why* OP doesn’t want to be friends sure. Everyone is entitled to their opinions.

But to condemn someone for choosing not to want to pursue a friendship and being honest about it is just odd.
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It’s like people are more butthurt about the honesty lmao

I’ve had times where colleagues wanted to form friendships outside of work and rather than me having the guts to say nah, stayed mum and just never followed through. And that seems to upset people too so *shrugs*

I would also see it as a red flag if someone made blanket statements about a whole gender (or race/religion etc).. Cuz that’s just irrational.

And no it’s not flattering if they want you to be their one friend whose the exception.



not even, its her judging her without fully knowing her, cuz i know i don't hang with coworkers or befriend them, work stays at work so if someone were to ask to hang out i'd say "sorry, i don't have the time, thank you tho" but then again i stay quiet @ work don't find a reason to talk if it isn't work related click to expand



So people shouldn’t be held accountable to what they say?

Like I said to another poster, people have deal breakers and for the OP this was one of them. OP is entitled to have them and she was honest about not wanting to form a friendship. click to expand



not if they're not hurting anyone on a deep level seems more like OP is annoyed by her traits it's not like her coworker is going out of her way to chant her dislike for women, like what are you a prosecutor?

OP is entitled to have her deal breakers, her deal breakers being deal breakers can be my deal breaker and i'm being honest about my view click to expand


actually...this lady did go out of her way to chant her dislike for women ...but *shrugs* its whateva click to expand

did she really? like a full on protest in the office? how many ppl heard it? click to expand
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lmao your funny ...saying that you hate a gender probably shouldn't be part of a causal conversation but whatevas ... you seem pretty set in your position and im set in mine and since i was there...and since you made that assumption that she didn't go out of her way to bring that up I thought I would point out that she did

I don't really expect it change you perspective ... just pointing it out
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It’s like people are more butthurt about the honesty lmao

I’ve had times where colleagues wanted to form friendships outside of work and rather than me having the guts to say nah, stayed mum and just never followed through. And that seems to upset people too so *shrugs*

I would also see it as a red flag if someone made blanket statements about a whole gender (or race/religion etc).. Cuz that’s just irrational.

And no it’s not flattering if they want you to be their one friend whose the exception.



not even, its her judging her without fully knowing her, cuz i know i don't hang with coworkers or befriend them, work stays at work so if someone were to ask to hang out i'd say "sorry, i don't have the time, thank you tho" but then again i stay quiet @ work don't find a reason to talk if it isn't work related click to expand



So people shouldn’t be held accountable to what they say?

Like I said to another poster, people have deal breakers and for the OP this was one of them. OP is entitled to have them and she was honest about not wanting to form a friendship. click to expand



not if they're not hurting anyone on a deep level seems more like OP is annoyed by her traits it's not like her coworker is going out of her way to chant her dislike for women, like what are you a prosecutor?

OP is entitled to have her deal breakers, her deal breakers being deal breakers can be my deal breaker and i'm being honest about my view click to expand


actually...this lady did go out of her way to chant her dislike for women ...but *shrugs* its whateva click to expand



did she really? like a full on protest in the office? how many ppl heard it? click to expand
lmao your funny ...saying that you hate a gender probably shouldn't be part of a causal conversation but whatevas ... you seem pretty set in your position and im set in mine and since i was there...and since you made that assumption that she didn't go out of her way to bring that up I thought I would point out that she did
I don't really expect it change you perspective ... just pointing it out click to expand
lol, i just wanna know cuz i've never met a woman who is trying to befriend a woman who'd chant about hating women but apparently they exist

what is her sign, at least befriend her to figure out her whole natal chart click to expand
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😆 😆 😆 omg lmao .... that would be really funny I can't do now she probably pissed ..its just better this way that we aren't any closer not that she is pissed
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It’s like people are more butthurt about the honesty lmao

I’ve had times where colleagues wanted to form friendships outside of work and rather than me having the guts to say nah, stayed mum and just never followed through. And that seems to upset people too so *shrugs*

I would also see it as a red flag if someone made blanket statements about a whole gender (or race/religion etc).. Cuz that’s just irrational.

And no it’s not flattering if they want you to be their one friend whose the exception.



not even, its her judging her without fully knowing her, cuz i know i don't hang with coworkers or befriend them, work stays at work so if someone were to ask to hang out i'd say "sorry, i don't have the time, thank you tho" but then again i stay quiet @ work don't find a reason to talk if it isn't work related click to expand



So people shouldn’t be held accountable to what they say?

Like I said to another poster, people have deal breakers and for the OP this was one of them. OP is entitled to have them and she was honest about not wanting to form a friendship. click to expand



not if they're not hurting anyone on a deep level seems more like OP is annoyed by her traits it's not like her coworker is going out of her way to chant her dislike for women, like what are you a prosecutor?

OP is entitled to have her deal breakers, her deal breakers being deal breakers can be my deal breaker and i'm being honest about my view click to expand



Lol and the OP is being called out for taking things personal..

Disagree on *why* OP doesn’t want to be friends sure. Everyone is entitled to their opinions.

But to condemn someone for choosing not to want to pursue a friendship and being honest about it is just odd. click to expand

i'm not condemning anyone, i am just chillin and typin replies @ work whether you read it in an aggressive tone or a just having conversation tone is all up to you

would you like me to add emojis so you can depict expression? click to expand
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Lmao if you call you typing down finding OP deal breaker a deal breaker a “tone”

Is there an emoji for that?
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It’s like people are more butthurt about the honesty lmao

I’ve had times where colleagues wanted to form friendships outside of work and rather than me having the guts to say nah, stayed mum and just never followed through. And that seems to upset people too so *shrugs*

I would also see it as a red flag if someone made blanket statements about a whole gender (or race/religion etc).. Cuz that’s just irrational.

And no it’s not flattering if they want you to be their one friend whose the exception.



not even, its her judging her without fully knowing her, cuz i know i don't hang with coworkers or befriend them, work stays at work so if someone were to ask to hang out i'd say "sorry, i don't have the time, thank you tho" but then again i stay quiet @ work don't find a reason to talk if it isn't work related click to expand



So people shouldn’t be held accountable to what they say?

Like I said to another poster, people have deal breakers and for the OP this was one of them. OP is entitled to have them and she was honest about not wanting to form a friendship. click to expand



not if they're not hurting anyone on a deep level seems more like OP is annoyed by her traits it's not like her coworker is going out of her way to chant her dislike for women, like what are you a prosecutor?

OP is entitled to have her deal breakers, her deal breakers being deal breakers can be my deal breaker and i'm being honest about my view click to expand


actually...this lady did go out of her way to chant her dislike for women ...but *shrugs* its whateva click to expand



did she really? like a full on protest in the office? how many ppl heard it? click to expand




lmao your funny ...saying that you hate a gender probably shouldn't be part of a causal conversation but whatevas ... you seem pretty set in your position and im set in mine and since i was there...and since you made that assumption that she didn't go out of her way to bring that up I thought I would point out that she did
I don't really expect it change you perspective ... just pointing it out click to expand


lol, i just wanna know cuz i've never met a woman who is trying to befriend a woman who'd chant about hating women but apparently they exist

what is her sign, at least befriend her to figure out her whole natal chart click to expand



omg lmao .... that would be really funny I can't do now she probably pissed ..its just better this way that we aren't any closer not that she is pissed click to expand

you'd be surprised what you can find out about someone by simply googling their name and location click to expand
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I can see both sides, but i agree with the OP. Not because the coworker says she "hates" women, but because it seems her hatred of women is so close to the surface of who she is, she uses it as a way of introduction.

"Hi, I'm Wendy and I think women are drama and shitty. Wanna grab a drink?"

Who says that at work..?? Also, she has no idea whether she's going to like you or not, seeing as how she doesn't really know you.

I went to college with a woman that doesn't really like other women and we ended up becoming best friends. In fact, I didn't even know about her female friend aversion until months/years down the road. Because she didn't lead with that bullshit statement. She treated each female on a case by case basis.
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I can see both sides, but i agree with the OP. Not because the coworker hates women, but because it seems her hatred of women is so close to the surface of who she is, she uses it as a way of introduction.

"Hi, I'm Wendy and I think women are drama and butterty. Wanna grab a drink?"

Who says that at work..?? Also, she has no idea whether she's going to like you or not, seeing as how she doesn't really know you.

I went to college with a woman that doesn't really like other women and we ended up becoming best friends. In fact, I didn't even know about her female friend aversion until months/years down the road. Because she didn't lead with that bullbutter statement. She treated each female on a case by case basis.
That’s really interesting.

Did she ever change her views on women based off your friendship?
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Posted by Andalusia
I can see both sides, but i agree with the OP. Not because the coworker says she "hates" women, but because it seems her hatred of women is so close to the surface of who she is, she uses it as a way of introduction.

"Hi, I'm Wendy and I think women are drama and shitty. Wanna grab a drink?"

Who says that at work..?? Also, she has no idea whether she's going to like you or not, seeing as how she doesn't really know you.

I went to college with a woman that doesn't really like other women and we ended up becoming best friends. In fact, I didn't even know about her female friend aversion until months/years down the road. Because she didn't lead with that bullshit statement. She treated each female on a case by case basis.
thats all im saying who starts out with that.... 😆

"Hi, I'm Wendy and I think women are drama and shitty. Wanna grab a drink?"

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um no?

why?

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Posted by Andalusia
... close to the surface of who she is, ... introduction.

"Hi, I'm Wendy and I think women are drama and shitty. Wanna grab a drink?"
....

OP: "... we should hang out ... I politely tell her she is not the type of person i would be friends with ... she says uuuggghh this is why I can't be friends with women"

you see, only after the girl got defensive she told that. she's wishy-washy. but she did not start with I-hate-women.
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... close to the surface of who she is, ... introduction.

"Hi, I'm Wendy and I think women are drama and shitty. Wanna grab a drink?"
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OP: "... we should hang out ... I politely tell her she is not the type of person i would be friends with ... she says uuuggghh this is why I can't be friends with women"

you see, only after the girl got defensive she told that. she's wishy-washy. but she did not start with I-hate-women. click to expand
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so let make sure that what happen is understood

she said the red flags FIRST (I don't trust women, etc)

I didnt say anything and just let her talk ....and

then was like oh we should hang out

and i was like nah im good

and then she wanted to know why

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Meh.

To each, their own. I think people should be selective about who they call their friends. As the old saying goes, "you are who you hang out with". It isnt Cancan's duty to change her perspective. It's that person that needs to change themselves.

Sounds like that girl is a debbie downer anyways. It would be taxing to sit around someone that spewed negativity.
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Meh.

To each, their own. I think people should be selective about who they call their friends. As the old saying goes, "you are who you hang out with". It isnt Cancan's duty to change her perspective. It's that person that needs to change themselves.

Sounds like that girl is a debbie downer anyways. It would be taxing to sit around someone that spewed negativity.
I cant do it ... im sure she will find someone that can ...but I can't be the one 😢

thanks for understanding
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Meh.

To each, their own. I think people should be selective about who they call their friends. As the old saying goes, "you are who you hang out with". It isnt Cancan's duty to change her perspective. It's that person that needs to change themselves.

Sounds like that girl is a debbie downer anyways. It would be taxing to sit around someone that spewed negativity.

I cant do it ... im sure she will find someone that can ...but I can't be the one
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I couldn't either. Lol
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Meh.

To each, their own. I think people should be selective about who they call their friends. As the old saying goes, "you are who you hang out with". It isnt Cancan's duty to change her perspective. It's that person that needs to change themselves.

Sounds like that girl is a debbie downer anyways. It would be taxing to sit around someone that spewed negativity.



I cant do it ... im sure she will find someone that can ...but I can't be the one
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I couldn't either. Lol click to expand
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lmao

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It’s like people are more butthurt about the honesty lmao

I’ve had times where colleagues wanted to form friendships outside of work and rather than me having the guts to say nah, stayed mum and just never followed through. And that seems to upset people too so *shrugs*

I would also see it as a red flag if someone made blanket statements about a whole gender (or race/religion etc).. Cuz that’s just irrational.

And no it’s not flattering if they want you to be their one friend whose the exception.



yess that was me as well in my younger days people that I didn't want to be friends with I would stay quiet and let the friendship fade slowly and it would leave people hurt and confused I told her the truth and when she asked why I told her the truth on that as well ...

and just as you said anyone that make blanket statements about whole genders, races, etc. is a HUGE RED FLAG .. at least for me
I don't like women but
I don't like men but
I don't like white people but.
I don't like black people but.

its creepy .. and like you said not flattering at all to be an exception...
there are plenty of amazing women out there that would bend over backwards to help those in need especially friends and family
not saying the lady is a terrible person ...but she is not the type of person I would vibe with outside of work
I just think we would be better from afar ...
thank you for trying to seeing where im coming from
and not pushing a friendship that Im not comfortable with and the lady wont benefit from anyway

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Lmao no worries, I’m really surprised at how people are taking this.

How often do we hear the stereotypes that women are not straight forward/upfront/honest, and then when you are you’re being condemned for it.

Mind blowing.

People end or don’t pursue friendships for much smaller reasons than this. Life is too short to tolerate people for the sake of being tolerant. click to expand

this is a good point too
but i still think women are so much more unfair with each other
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Maybe, I can’t personally say I’ve observed this myself.

But what I have observed is that men don’t really bitch about their gender, and generally are intolerant of people who are man haters.

So why is it a problem that OP didn’t want to be friends with a misogynist?
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@MiZLeo, dxp is currently erroneous. I edited mine. maybe you do the same. our responses aren't shown without additional effort. it may be forward slash what is bothering. before the img or div part.

I was wondering if you guys were trying to quote me ? I can't see sorry im not ignoring you guys? click to expand
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yeah, dxp is doing too much. look at all those waste "expand" stuff with no link behind them.
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I totally agree with the @op and the others that understand. I was given very good information when I was in college early on. Be "friendly" in the workplace but never "friends" and I have noticed over the years that that most always plays out correctly. Too much drama and then that causes stress. Unless that person is a close friend, they only get what I give them verbally, emotionally, physically, empathically - whatever. I stand neutral and observe mostly - while I get my work done. My comments are much in the way of "who cares" and I walk away. Because it isn't important in the big picture of life - my life mainly which is what I am concerned about. Not yours or anyone else's. I am there to work and sometimes work as a team, I own no one anything.
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"dancing around things ...you think your being kind but I have figured out that's not how the other see's it "

from a time-pass perspective:

the more we need our resources for special goals, the more straightforward we are with the others. Cause we are egoistic, we dance around, cause every new person could open us doors to new opportunities. But when we have enough challenges (and opportunities as well), we start saving time by being direct.

from a what-about-young-ones perspective:

the more Scorp placements one has, the more aware he/she is of the issues related to resources. my Virgo-Scorp sis was always more selective than me. Rest bitch face did half of the work for her. Still she networks|ed a lot. whenever she ran into interesting people.
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well, women make most of the gossip. we know what the other bitches think about us. we read TOOOOOOOO MUCH between the lines. and that makes us uncomfortable with each other. like when you'd try to describe somebody's Sun sign to them without making them feel attacked|insulted.

I had a lot to do with men. I do not know what they think. So half of my own bad thoughts are switched off with them.

not that this ^^^^^^^^ is the whole truth. just another suggestion. the truth is a mix of all of our perceptions anyway.
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Ok Cancan dxp hates me right now. I was just trying to say that I was confused by your OP about the red flags. I got the impression you were the one who was saying the red flags not the girl. But I see now that you were trying to say she had those issues with women and that in that case, yes, I can see why you didn't want to be friends.
no its ok

i didnt explain myself very well...

the lady and me were talking ...and then she starts talking about our coworkers ...

I don't say anything just I just listen ...

then that kind of devovles into ...well I don't like most women anyway, everybody in the office is jealous of me ...etc....

then she is like oh let hang out

pass. lmao
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Posted by RooSagicorn
Why does she hate women if she just doesn’t normally click well with women and men are more chill? And why is it we need to address being a friend if she asks to hang out? To me, OP made it a bigger deal than it was. Yeah she got defensive. Maybe she was far too open than she should’ve been and then got judged for it.. maybe she’s had this experience before so was sensitive. But a thread on women who hate men? Woah. And then a lot of judgement. Um yeah men are more chill..

I tend to get along better with men, and women tend to backstab while men give me attention.., hmmm and somehow that’s my fault? I’m shy and quiet actually.. it doesn’t mean I hate women but I understand men better. I have 3 brothers, no sisters maybe that’s why. I have had friends that are female and I don’t hate women but I am very selective.

But hey let me tell you a story... when my daughter was in 1st grade all the girls had to take a “how to be nice” class because there were so many problems. All the girls except my daughter because she was nice and sweet to everyone. This completely shocked me that such a class would be necessary in 1st grade!!! Anyway, who did my daughter play with. Yep the boys, because their were no problems. They played at recess sports type stuff and accepted my daughter too because she just played with them.
She was one of the boys until puberty when boys wanted girlfriends then she converted to “girlfriends” as friends. It was an adjustement. Well more girls to choose from then too.. but seriously does this not show us something about differences in boys and girls?? Men and women .. and grownups apparently too 😳😳
the red flags i mention ...she said them herself ...and maybe I did make it a bigger deal than it was but for me I seen enough to know that she would not be a good friend for me and that I wouldn't be a good friend to her cause i wouldn't be able to open up to her
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Posted by RooSagicorn
Why does she hate women if she just doesn’t normally click well with women and men are more chill? And why is it we need to address being a friend if she asks to hang out? To me, OP made it a bigger deal than it was. Yeah she got defensive. Maybe she was far too open than she should’ve been and then got judged for it.. maybe she’s had this experience before so was sensitive. But a thread on women who hate men? Woah. And then a lot of judgement. Um yeah men are more chill..

I tend to get along better with men, and women tend to backstab while men give me attention.., hmmm and somehow that’s my fault?
I am only going to address this part of it, because the rest is about your daughter.

I think I have been called a women hater more often than not, because I either go in the middle, or like to think of the men's feelings when dealing with issues.

I understand the argument, more than anyone else on this site. We all know that women normally operate on a more emotional level then men. That's why the saying Men are from Mars... etc... However, I add this, why does cancan have to be "defensive" about it? Why do you all think she is taking it personal? If a women, came up to me, and said "I HATE KIDS, THEY ARE MESSY, YOU DON'T GET TO SLEEP, THEY ARE ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS, GETTING INTO SHIT THEY AREN'T SUPPOSE TO DO, DON'T LISTEN...ETC", I wouldn't want to be her friend. Not because I have a son, but because I am choosing for myself, not to be around someone that at my core values, I do not agree with. Her co-worker essentially did the same thing, but for a different sector of the populace. And I doubt most would even say anything about her choosing not to be friends with someone who had issues with children, but if you change it to women, its suddenly "she's defensive".

She didn't say this women is an asshole, she is just choosing to limit her interaction with someone she can't relate to. And that's her prerogative. She is making a choice to limit her interaction with this person. I fail to understand, how her choosing not to have a preface of friendship, is her being defensive. Maybe the OP is being just as selective as you are in who she hangs out with.

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I love all people till I don’t when they give me reason

But I remember when I was desperate and there was a lesbian and she tried to be my lover, then she showed me her things ... I just run away and scream 😂😭

That does not mean Women are disgusting but I don’t like women as lovers, it goes with some women, I don’t like them as friends but I don’t hate them 🤷🏻‍♀️
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Why does she hate women if she just doesn’t normally click well with women and men are more chill? And why is it we need to address being a friend if she asks to hang out? To me, OP made it a bigger deal than it was. Yeah she got defensive. Maybe she was far too open than she should’ve been and then got judged for it.. maybe she’s had this experience before so was sensitive. But a thread on women who hate men? Woah. And then a lot of judgement. Um yeah men are more chill..

I tend to get along better with men, and women tend to backstab while men give me attention.., hmmm and somehow that’s my fault? I’m shy and quiet actually.. it doesn’t mean I hate women but I understand men better. I have 3 brothers, no sisters maybe that’s why. I have had friends that are female and I don’t hate women but I am very selective.

But hey let me tell you a story... when my daughter was in 1st grade all the girls had to take a “how to be nice” class because there were so many problems. All the girls except my daughter because she was nice and sweet to everyone. This completely shocked me that such a class would be necessary in 1st grade!!! Anyway, who did my daughter play with. Yep the boys, because their were no problems. They played at recess sports type stuff and accepted my daughter too because she just played with them.
She was one of the boys until puberty when boys wanted girlfriends then she converted to “girlfriends” as friends. It was an adjustement. Well more girls to choose from then too.. but seriously does this not show us something about differences in boys and girls?? Men and women .. and grownups apparently too 😳😳



the red flags i mention ...she said them herself ...and maybe I did make it a bigger deal than it was but for me I seen enough to know that she would not be a good friend for me and that I wouldn't be a good friend to her cause i wouldn't be able to open up to her click to expand

Well probably & that’s fine. But just because someone asks to hang out doesn’t necessarily mean they are going to become a friend. Plus who knows, it was judgmental to put that on her. I am kinda that way too, but it doesn’t mean I can’t be friends and open to other view points. In fact, I would say her openness and her asking to hang out showed the opposite. In fact, you are the one who shut it down and was not open, and willing to let whatever evolve or not evolve. As a cancer, I’d say that is probably your cardinal sign & control to make you feel better about being uncomfortable. I could be wrong, but that’s what it looks like to me. Which is fine if you don’t want to be open to other viewpoints, and want people all the same to associate with. It is your choice and you have the right to decide that. But it was rude even though you said it nicely and to decide people like her are what you think they are. You could be wrong until you actually get to know them better. It’s kinda like a relationship, it takes awhile to really get to know someone. It doesn’t matter really, I just object to the blanket statement of “people like her” and if women are catty to you it’s about you.. not necessarily see every situation is different. You have to be open to see it. click to expand
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i agree with and disagree with some of your statements

she said those things i posted as red flags ...I didn't assume them ..its clear to me that the original post might be confusing

I didn't want to get to know her any better... no friendship, no hangouts for me thats enough

what I said was rude there no getting around that ...

when women are catty sometimes its not you ...but if EVERY SINGLE RELATIONSHIP YOU HAVE EVER EVER HAD WITH A WOMAN has went poorly its time for some self reflection
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Why does she hate women if she just doesn’t normally click well with women and men are more chill? And why is it we need to address being a friend if she asks to hang out? To me, OP made it a bigger deal than it was. Yeah she got defensive. Maybe she was far too open than she should’ve been and then got judged for it.. maybe she’s had this experience before so was sensitive. But a thread on women who hate men? Woah. And then a lot of judgement. Um yeah men are more chill..

I tend to get along better with men, and women tend to backstab while men give me attention.., hmmm and somehow that’s my fault?



I am only going to address this part of it, because the rest is about your daughter.

I think I have been called a women hater more often than not, because I either go in the middle, or like to think of the men's feelings when dealing with issues.

I understand the argument, more than anyone else on this site. We all know that women normally operate on a more emotional level then men. That's why the saying Men are from Mars... etc... However, I add this, why does cancan have to be "defensive" about it? Why do you all think she is taking it personal? If a women, came up to me, and said "I HATE KIDS, THEY ARE MESSY, YOU DON'T GET TO SLEEP, THEY ARE ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS, GETTING INTO butter THEY AREN'T SUPPOSE TO DO, DON'T LISTEN...ETC", I wouldn't want to be her friend. Not because I have a son, but because I am choosing for myself, not to be around someone that at my core values, I do not agree with. Her co-worker essentially did the same thing, but for a different sector of the populace. And I doubt most would even say anything about her choosing not to be friends with someone who had issues with children, but if you change it to women, its suddenly "she's defensive".

She didn't say this women is an marker, she is just choosing to limit her interaction with someone she can't relate to. And that's her prerogative. She is making a choice to limit her interaction with this person. I fail to understand, how her choosing not to have a preface of friendship, is her being defensive. Maybe the OP is being just as selective as you are in who she hangs out with.

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It was the blanket statement assuming she hates women & “women like her” I object to. It’s fine to for her to make whatever choice she wants to. What she sees as red flags aren’t necessarily red flags. I see it differently. But I am supportive of her choice or anyone’s choice. I just didn’t see it necessary to explain that when someone asks to hang out. You could say thanks, but no thanks. click to expand
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I see tons of red flags myself, and that's okay if you don't agree with it. But I wouldn't want to be associated with someone, and I would probably judge her severely myself as well.

Someone, who states bold opinions like "women are always competing with me", "women all gossip", etc... are huge red flags to me. If she feels comfortable enough to say this type of thing to essentially a stranger, I would view it as red flags. She doesn't know cancan from a hole in the wall. They have limited social interaction that is within the confides of work. If she is willing to say this to a stranger, then she is willing to likely say things about you to others, when you are not around. It's not so much her statements that I have objection with, but the context and actions behind her statements that would cause me to be weary of her nature.
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Posted by nikkistar
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Why does she hate women if she just doesn’t normally click well with women and men are more chill? And why is it we need to address being a friend if she asks to hang out? To me, OP made it a bigger deal than it was. Yeah she got defensive. Maybe she was far too open than she should’ve been and then got judged for it.. maybe she’s had this experience before so was sensitive. But a thread on women who hate men? Woah. And then a lot of judgement. Um yeah men are more chill..

I tend to get along better with men, and women tend to backstab while men give me attention.., hmmm and somehow that’s my fault?



I am only going to address this part of it, because the rest is about your daughter.

I think I have been called a women hater more often than not, because I either go in the middle, or like to think of the men's feelings when dealing with issues.

I understand the argument, more than anyone else on this site. We all know that women normally operate on a more emotional level then men. That's why the saying Men are from Mars... etc... However, I add this, why does cancan have to be "defensive" about it? Why do you all think she is taking it personal? If a women, came up to me, and said "I HATE KIDS, THEY ARE MESSY, YOU DON'T GET TO SLEEP, THEY ARE ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS, GETTING INTO butter THEY AREN'T SUPPOSE TO DO, DON'T LISTEN...ETC", I wouldn't want to be her friend. Not because I have a son, but because I am choosing for myself, not to be around someone that at my core values, I do not agree with. Her co-worker essentially did the same thing, but for a different sector of the populace. And I doubt most would even say anything about her choosing not to be friends with someone who had issues with children, but if you change it to women, its suddenly "she's defensive".

She didn't say this women is an marker, she is just choosing to limit her interaction with someone she can't relate to. And that's her prerogative. She is making a choice to limit her interaction with this person. I fail to understand, how her choosing not to have a preface of friendship, is her being defensive. Maybe the OP is being just as selective as you are in who she hangs out with.

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It was the blanket statement assuming she hates women & “women like her” I object to. It’s fine to for her to make whatever choice she wants to. What she sees as red flags aren’t necessarily red flags. I see it differently. But I am supportive of her choice or anyone’s choice. I just didn’t see it necessary to explain that when someone asks to hang out. You could say thanks, but no thanks. click to expand
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she asked me why I didn't just blurt it out ...and for once I told the truth ...normally i like to dance around stuff ... but thats why I explained
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I love all people till I don’t when they give me reason
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this was my answer too.

of course I see the red flags. but I'm not the president of any important country. so people with whom I hang out need not to be perfect people. barely I have secrets. so anybody can come in. everything gets its appropriate order once you are busy enough with your own stuff. and no hand-made secrets.
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Posted by nikkistar
Posted by RooSagicorn
Posted by nikkistar
Posted by RooSagicorn
Why does she hate women if she just doesn’t normally click well with women and men are more chill? And why is it we need to address being a friend if she asks to hang out? To me, OP made it a bigger deal than it was. Yeah she got defensive. Maybe she was far too open than she should’ve been and then got judged for it.. maybe she’s had this experience before so was sensitive. But a thread on women who hate men? Woah. And then a lot of judgement. Um yeah men are more chill..

I tend to get along better with men, and women tend to backstab while men give me attention.., hmmm and somehow that’s my fault?



I am only going to address this part of it, because the rest is about your daughter.

I think I have been called a women hater more often than not, because I either go in the middle, or like to think of the men's feelings when dealing with issues.

I understand the argument, more than anyone else on this site. We all know that women normally operate on a more emotional level then men. That's why the saying Men are from Mars... etc... However, I add this, why does cancan have to be "defensive" about it? Why do you all think she is taking it personal? If a women, came up to me, and said "I HATE KIDS, THEY ARE MESSY, YOU DON'T GET TO SLEEP, THEY ARE ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS, GETTING INTO butter THEY AREN'T SUPPOSE TO DO, DON'T LISTEN...ETC", I wouldn't want to be her friend. Not because I have a son, but because I am choosing for myself, not to be around someone that at my core values, I do not agree with. Her co-worker essentially did the same thing, but for a different sector of the populace. And I doubt most would even say anything about her choosing not to be friends with someone who had issues with children, but if you change it to women, its suddenly "she's defensive".

She didn't say this women is an marker, she is just choosing to limit her interaction with someone she can't relate to. And that's her prerogative. She is making a choice to limit her interaction with this person. I fail to understand, how her choosing not to have a preface of friendship, is her being defensive. Maybe the OP is being just as selective as you are in who she hangs out with.

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It was the blanket statement assuming she hates women & “women like her” I object to. It’s fine to for her to make whatever choice she wants to. What she sees as red flags aren’t necessarily red flags. I see it differently. But I am supportive of her choice or anyone’s choice. I just didn’t see it necessary to explain that when someone asks to hang out. You could say thanks, but no thanks. click to expand



I see tons of red flags myself, and that's okay if you don't agree with it. But I wouldn't want to be associated with someone, and I would probably judge her severely myself as well.

Someone, who states bold opinions like "women are always competing with me", "women all gossip", etc... are huge red flags to me. If she feels comfortable enough to say this type of thing to essentially a stranger, I would view it as red flags. She doesn't know cancan from a hole in the wall. They have limited social interaction that is within the confides of work. If she is willing to say this to a stranger, then she is willing to likely say things about you to others, when you are not around. It's not so much her statements that I have objection with, but the context and actions behind her statements that would cause me to be weary of her nature. click to expand

Some people are more open than others and that makes people distrust sometimes. It is not necessarily true. So I would err to guess it’s why she had this experience. Who knows could have to with personality types. It’s my viewpoint, you have yours. That’s fine. click to expand
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for me this is because people don't hear themselves talking to themselves.

like when you hate on old people for a long time, look from above to down with divorced people, critisize broke people, and one day wheel of fortune brings that you are old, divorcee or broke. there your old thoughts follow you day and night. even in face of people who wouldn't have those thoughts. I know a woman who suffers from being jobless cause "what would her neighbours say?" (my bet she's been such a neighbour herself)

so women are afraid of women cause women do, think and say things they themselves do, think and say. like somebody thinks you are flirting with their bf and look how sexy they talk to a married man.
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Damn Cancan I think you wouldn't like me then cause I have said the same words.

Majority of the girls' I tried to be friends with end up backstabbing me and talking behind my back while growing up. So I learned to be on my own afterwards.

The girls' I got along with the most was ladies who also feels like this. There was no gossips between us.

And the easiest to make friends for me were men. Cause they would talk about a topic I would know like gaming, consoles, and whatnot. While in the other hand... I couldn't handle the girls talking about expensive gucci things and always saying "Ohmiiiigawd, just the other day, I.."

I cant 😫😫
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I think what you did and said to her was very hypocritical, first off. . Because you would be making this "I hate other women thread" anyway, if she did and said the same thing to you.

But yeah, it's why I keep my foot on these bitches neck...

They love it. They need someone to check their ass.

I never could or wanted to be friends with girls.

They use your weaknesses against you, because deep down they are often weak themselves. Not all women, but it's more than half of the entire species.

I have learned they are very jealous-hearted, "catty" is true, vindictive and revengeful.

They simply don't understand loyalty and will walk over you in a second, to get somewhere else in life.

You literally have to KEEP a woman loyal. You have to hurt her, commit careless acts amongst her body, neglect/ignore her a little.. I have learned that they only understand pain, people that think women don't understand pain, are people who don't understand women.

When women think about their children, they think about the pain associated with the birth of her child. How it was worth it and they didn't go through it for nothing.

Pain is an establishment.

Women are very complex, and they aren't as good as we'd like to believe.

If a man had enough control over a woman, if she simply loved him enough.. She would do anything of his request.

And that's why we have WOMEN letting men pimp their kids, fuck their kids, beat their kids, kidnap kids. Women robbing banks and commit crimes with a man and for a man.

Women lie and say "I do this for myself"

Nothing is for herself.. They need you.