Narcissism

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I'm into astrology (like an amature) and I'm into psychology (also like an amature). And I came across this video about covert narcissists and immediately I thought to myself....this guy in this video is describing virgos 🙂

If you have the patience to watch the whole video (it's quite educational) and you're a virgo, I'd like your thoughts on this. Or anyone's for that matter. Is it possible that virgos are more prone to that type of behaviour because of....what? 'Cos I've seen this behaviour from virgos (other signs too, but mostly virgos).

I don't hate you, I'm not trying to bash you, I just think it's...peculiar. 🙂





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Posted by Cherrylips

I don't hate you, I'm not trying to bash you






why would you say the above?

You really have that much hate in you, that you immediately apologize for hate you never expressed?



so, a person isn't allowed to notice traits and characteristics of others .. without being labelled a hater?

for the fact that you said that ... THAT is what makes you look like you hate, not the video
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Posted by shakedown
Hmmm...I know a few Virgos and to be honest, I have never known them to exhibit grandeur.

The one's I know are very humble and put him or herself down to make others feels good about themselves.

I have never seen them play the victim. It really is not their style . They are "hard" and real people. I rarely see their emotions, so their is no sympathy needed.

Just my opinion. I am not saying you are wrong.
It's covert, they don't exibit.

I was not rejected by a virgo.

I read forums here about them and it's the same questions again and again and again...why do they disappear, hot and cold behaviour, punishing with silence...etc...
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I think I understand what your trying to say except for the fact that most of these topics on here about virgos are written by not-virgos...

Soooo what we not-virgos experience is our own (blown up) perception and not the reality of how they actually view the situation.

Like for example, you talk about punishing with silence. It's not punishing, they just have to figure out how they feel about a situation and literally don't have time for all your worries and thoughts about it too.

It's that simple.

But it seems a lot of people want to throw in some extra "juice" and make a situation more intense than it is (which is why most virgos choose to deal with it themselves in the first place and we can learn a lot from that)

So take a deep breath, throw away this topic and we'll never discuss it again 🙂
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Posted by SomeSortOfMermaid
Sorry OP but you're really showing here how much you don't know about the essence of Virgos.

Like any other sign there might be some rotten apples, and trust me being raised by one I know Virgo's shortcomings all too well, but as a whole Virgos have a conscious and are one of the most if not the most compassionate sign in the zodiac. They just don't express it openly. Very much the opposite of a narcissist.

I feel that the reason why Virgos receive a lot of bashing is because people expect Virgos to constantly serve their interest, even if it goes against the virgos own personal interests. I don't see this with other signs as much (maybe pisceans to a degree too). You can't force a person to do things your way if they don't want to though, and people seem to get angry when the Virgo won't play along.

It's like people want to forget Virgos are a) human, and b) very much have a mind of their own, moreso than most signs.

People stay wanting to mold mutables into whatever they think we should be lol
I don't, that's why I'm asking people here 🙂
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I think Virgo's are probably the most selfless sign in the Zodiac. They seem to be genuinely giving of themselves and all the one's I know and interact with go out of their way to accommodate folks, but within reason. I, myself have my Virgo in Moon, so I can definitely relate.

I have two brothers that I am extremely close to that exhibit the same behaviors. My baby brother is a different breed of Virgo though...lol. He may be more on that Narcissist side a little more, but then again, his rising sign is Aries, so at times the mean, nastiness and vindictive side of his personality seem to out weight the logical side of his character. He really can't help it, but I love him just the same.

I just think the rest of your horoscope also makes a difference in your personality, so in that sense, all Virgo's are not the same, and I think that's where CLOSE MINDED people, (and lord knows there's enough of them on this site) lack the common sense to know that you can't generalize and label an entire group of people as the same.
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Don't have time to watch the video all the way through. But I wanted to say something because a lot of chode ass mofos on here like to fling the word Narcissist my way when I'm discussing things with people here on this forum.

For one. A lot of what this guy is saying only really applies in relationships. Better yet like he says. Whether or not you can label someone a "Narcissist" doesn't matter. What matters is whether they are ABUSIVE or not.

If someone says something you don't like. Whether or not they are a narcissist really does not matter 1 fuckin bit. Whether or not someone has an attitude or you think they are "mean. Has no reflection at all upon the validity, credibility, and truth of their words.

If you are a dumbass and someone calls you a dumbass. It is because you're a dumbass. Insulting is not necessarily abuse. It can be punishment. Insulting random strangers is not abusive lmao

What is abusive is when you insult someone who is close to you. If y'all are close, whether as friends or whathaveyou. Then you are already co-operative and compromising enough to just talk things out understandingly.

If I don't know you. I'll call you stupid all day. The problem isn't me calling you stupid. It is that you let a complete stranger bother you.
Your last message sounds like, "If you're bothered by my disrespect, it's YOUR fault."

Narcissist.
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Don't have time to watch the video all the way through. But I wanted to say something because a lot of chode ass mofos on here like to fling the word Narcissist my way when I'm discussing things with people here on this forum.

For one. A lot of what this guy is saying only really applies in relationships. Better yet like he says. Whether or not you can label someone a "Narcissist" doesn't matter. What matters is whether they are ABUSIVE or not.

If someone says something you don't like. Whether or not they are a narcissist really does not matter 1 fuckin bit. Whether or not someone has an attitude or you think they are "mean. Has no reflection at all upon the validity, credibility, and truth of their words.

If you are a dumbass and someone calls you a dumbass. It is because you're a dumbass. Insulting is not necessarily abuse. It can be punishment. Insulting random strangers is not abusive lmao

What is abusive is when you insult someone who is close to you. If y'all are close, whether as friends or whathaveyou. Then you are already co-operative and compromising enough to just talk things out understandingly.

If I don't know you. I'll call you stupid all day. The problem isn't me calling you stupid. It is that you let a complete stranger bother you.
Your last message sounds like, "If you're bothered by my disrespect, it's YOUR fault."

Narcissist.



Actually that's exactly how it goes cause you are a stranger. I owe you nothing more than human rights. I could be a dick to you for no reason and there is no logic or fact that can say whether I should or shouldn't.

You are responsible for your own butthurt when dealing with someone on a superficial and distant level.

Hurt is a fact of life. You have no inherent right to be protected from butthurt.

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Ah, I was wrong to call you a narcissist. Should have been "first class asshole" instead.

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Posted by SomeSortOfMermaid
Sorry OP but you're really showing here how much you don't know about the essence of Virgos.

It's like people want to forget Virgos are a) human, and b) very much have a mind of their own, moreso than most signs.

People stay wanting to mold mutables into whatever they think we should be lol
I remember a while back posting a messages which said something to the effect of "Don't Virgo's realize that people have their own interests and minds, and don't want to be molded into something the virgo deems 'acceptable'"? One Virgo responded with a "No."

Well... not my job to understand things for people who don't get it.

My brother is now 45 and going through a divorce. He confessed to everyone in the family (except me because I did what Virgo's do best - I "iced" him) that he was wrong in how he treated his children. He had always been "too hard" on them. Forgetting that they were children who needed guidance and help. Looks like he forgot that his children were human, with minds of their own. Must've been my brother's four planets in Virgo.

A friend of mine grew increasingly demanding of my time, and service. Completely forgot about what it meant to be a friend. In the end he became insulting. He too forgot that I am a human being, with my own interests, and that I don't live for him.... Must've been HIS four planets in Virgo.

This thread bought to mind an old male Virgo friend of mine I haven't seen in years. Now he's 38, and still single. Never had a relationship that lasted more than a year. He told me, verbatim, "If you're not perfect you're wasting my time." I was never interested in him, and I felt sorry for anyone who was. Anyway, looks like another case of a Virgo not remember that people are humans.

The female virgo's I've know were all pretty cool. Still, it seemed like they were never all that crazy, or all that happy with anyone in their personal lives. Some signs are never satisfied.

I am a Gemini. I too forget that people are only human. Must be that Virgo moon of mine.

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Don't have time to watch the video all the way through. But I wanted to say something because a lot of chode ass mofos on here like to fling the word Narcissist my way when I'm discussing things with people here on this forum.

For one. A lot of what this guy is saying only really applies in relationships. Better yet like he says. Whether or not you can label someone a "Narcissist" doesn't matter. What matters is whether they are ABUSIVE or not.

If someone says something you don't like. Whether or not they are a narcissist really does not matter 1 fuckin bit. Whether or not someone has an attitude or you think they are "mean. Has no reflection at all upon the validity, credibility, and truth of their words.

If you are a dumbass and someone calls you a dumbass. It is because you're a dumbass. Insulting is not necessarily abuse. It can be punishment. Insulting random strangers is not abusive lmao

What is abusive is when you insult someone who is close to you. If y'all are close, whether as friends or whathaveyou. Then you are already co-operative and compromising enough to just talk things out understandingly.

If I don't know you. I'll call you stupid all day. The problem isn't me calling you stupid. It is that you let a complete stranger bother you.
Your last message sounds like, "If you're bothered by my disrespect, it's YOUR fault."

Narcissist.



Actually that's exactly how it goes cause you are a stranger. I owe you nothing more than human rights. I could be a dick to you for no reason and there is no logic or fact that can say whether I should or shouldn't.

You are responsible for your own butthurt when dealing with someone on a superficial and distant level.

Hurt is a fact of life. You have no inherent right to be protected from butthurt.


Ah, I was wrong to call you a narcissist. Should have been "first class asshole" instead.



Being NICE isn't righteous in a world full of ignorance and evil.

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Hmm.... Yes. Obviously the two extremes you know best.
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Don't have time to watch the video all the way through. But I wanted to say something because a lot of chode ass mofos on here like to fling the word Narcissist my way when I'm discussing things with people here on this forum.

For one. A lot of what this guy is saying only really applies in relationships. Better yet like he says. Whether or not you can label someone a "Narcissist" doesn't matter. What matters is whether they are ABUSIVE or not.

If someone says something you don't like. Whether or not they are a narcissist really does not matter 1 fuckin bit. Whether or not someone has an attitude or you think they are "mean. Has no reflection at all upon the validity, credibility, and truth of their words.

If you are a dumbass and someone calls you a dumbass. It is because you're a dumbass. Insulting is not necessarily abuse. It can be punishment. Insulting random strangers is not abusive lmao

What is abusive is when you insult someone who is close to you. If y'all are close, whether as friends or whathaveyou. Then you are already co-operative and compromising enough to just talk things out understandingly.

If I don't know you. I'll call you stupid all day. The problem isn't me calling you stupid. It is that you let a complete stranger bother you.
Your last message sounds like, "If you're bothered by my disrespect, it's YOUR fault."

Narcissist.



Actually that's exactly how it goes cause you are a stranger. I owe you nothing more than human rights. I could be a dick to you for no reason and there is no logic or fact that can say whether I should or shouldn't.

You are responsible for your own butthurt when dealing with someone on a superficial and distant level.

Hurt is a fact of life. You have no inherent right to be protected from butthurt.


Ah, I was wrong to call you a narcissist. Should have been "first class asshole" instead.



Being NICE isn't righteous in a world full of ignorance and evil.


Hmm.... Yes. Obviously the two extremes you know best.

Lolno that's you sheeple.

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And arrogant and self deluded too boot! A fine example of a narcissist indeed. If only your written communication and composition didn't suck, you'd be true sociopath material.

My apologies to the OP for derailing this thread.