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Do others struggle with this too?

What’s your sun sign/moon/Venus

Every time I’m in love it’s almost impossible to let go. Not impossible but holy cow it takes forever. Doesn’t matter if there is no contact or not btw.

Sag sun

Aqua moon

Cap Venus

You have to learn that isn't love though. It really isn't. Love is healthy and makes you more emotionally healthy.
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I’ve learned it the hard way! I’ve chosen emotionally healthy with tons of work to get there. That is the logic. Heart doesn’t get it..
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I wish I did.

Why’s that?

It's so entertaining and annoying to read about it all it makes sense that I must be interested in it all to continue reading.
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Maybe you want to understand? I wish I didn’t struggle so much. It’s been that way with all I’ve really loved. But tells you something about my love for them.
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Nope, has always been a conscious decision for me.

Aqua sun

Sag moon

Cap Venus

You’d think we’d be more the same, with similar placements. I used to think love conquered all but I learned that isn’t true. Fear is a bigger emotion than love I do believe.

I also have Venus conjunct Saturn. That probably plays a majore role in this.

Fear is a more primal emotion and therefore often overrules the others impulses.
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Ya makes me wonder cuz I always seem to run into that fear thing. You know guys unwilling to deal with their demons and me wanting to do the grow & improve together thing 🤦‍♀️
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emotional/mental health comes first,just because i miss them doesnt mean we should be together.even though i miss the times we spent together sometimes

so logically speaking it would not work out again, and it would be our 4th break up

ex is with a gf now and we agreed to be friends but he texts me. he wants to videochat and says that "don't worry you are still mine" too much drama and feelings involved as they don't go away easily. so i have him blocked for peace of mind
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Do others struggle with this too?

What’s your sun sign/moon/Venus

Every time I’m in love it’s almost impossible to let go. Not impossible but holy cow it takes forever. Doesn’t matter if there is no contact or not btw.

Sag sun

Aqua moon

Cap Venus

You have to learn that isn't love though. It really isn't. Love is healthy and makes you more emotionally healthy.
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Oh really Alien? What planet are YOU from?
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I feel like air moons struggle with this because we try to rationalize our feelings and make “logic” of them, when you can’t make logic of feelings, we have to feel them. So there’s a constant battle of mind and heart.

Which makes it longer to let go...since it’s a constant back and fourth and takes longer to feel everything out

Sincerely a fellow air sign mooner

Leo sun

Libra moon

Leo merc

Also fixed energy as well doesn’t help lol


Ah yes! I’m really good at hiding the feelings from myself so I can move on. Then they get triggered later on and I have to feel the feels again ( which I get irritated they are still there). Blocking doesn’t work cuz I cave when they find a way to contact me. So my theory is not to do that and deal with the triggers til they are gone. Plus when it’s an ex husband who you have kids with, it’s not so easy. So then I’m grieving cuz we thought he was dying 7 years after divorce? Omg does it ever end? )

Fixed air moon is responsible I guess then.. plus the cap feels don’t help..
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Do others struggle with this too?

What’s your sun sign/moon/Venus

Every time I’m in love it’s almost impossible to let go. Not impossible but holy cow it takes forever. Doesn’t matter if there is no contact or not btw.

Sag sun

Aqua moon

Cap Venus

Fortunately, I am not one of those. Very strong cardinal signs in my chart. If its not working out, then I stay single until I found one who is worth my time. Making investments on people who aren't worth my time is a bummer. Time wasted cannot be taken back. Its gone. I like to invest wisely.

My venus is in the 7th house. If its not gonna last forever, I don't want it. Lol
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Well the ones who are hard to let go of we’re supposed to be forever. Not just anyone is hard to let go of.
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In love it takes a lot to let go. I basically have to be put through the ringer 20 times before I get tired and give up.

But it takes a while for me to actually fall in love because of how closed off I am

So I can cut people off pretty easily if I’m not in love. I think that’s how I know I will fall in love with the person, if I’m willing to stick it out with them and see how things will go.

But I still want to give someone the benefit of doubt and try, when I like them and they don’t annoy me. 😏

But I feel your pain. It’s hard when I get along with someone so well and then it doesn’t work out.

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In love it takes a lot to let go. I basically have to be put through the ringer 20 times before I get tired and give up.

But it takes a while for me to actually fall in love because of how closed off I am

So I can cut people off pretty easily if I’m not in love. I think that’s how I know I will fall in love with the person, if I’m willing to stick it out with them and see how things will go.

But I still want to give someone the benefit of doubt and try, when I like them and they don’t annoy me. 😏

But I feel your pain. It’s hard when I get along with someone so well and then it doesn’t work out.

Sag Sun/Cancer Moon/Scorpio Venus


Yeah that’s how I am too. I think why I don’t let people in easily.
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In love it takes a lot to let go. I basically have to be put through the ringer 20 times before I get tired and give up.

But it takes a while for me to actually fall in love because of how closed off I am

So I can cut people off pretty easily if I’m not in love. I think that’s how I know I will fall in love with the person, if I’m willing to stick it out with them and see how things will go.

But I still want to give someone the benefit of doubt and try, when I like them and they don’t annoy me. 😏

But I feel your pain. It’s hard when I get along with someone so well and then it doesn’t work out.

Sag Sun/Cancer Moon/Scorpio Venus

Yeah that’s how I am too. I think why I don’t let people in easily.
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So I’m curious now. Are you struggling with letting someone go and is it messing up your current dating life?

I can love someone and still date. I don’t have issues with that. It helps me move on quicker to busy myself.

Another question. Is it the Capricorn guy if the first question is a yes?
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I am Leo sun cap moon sag rising and I struggle letting go. It completely consumes me x

Hmmm another cap moon

Must be something in cap moons I think lol
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Cap placements have big feelings. I’m cap dominant, my ex husband has a cap moon, my ex bf is cap sun & dominant lol. Plus that Leo sun! Lol
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There really shouldn't be an either/or. Healthy love should improve your mental health and allow you to be rational. When you're feeling this, I personally think, it's because the relationship is detrimental to you in some way and/or it's infatuation, not love.

We like to poopoo infatuation around here, but people have been murdering and starting full-blown wars over it since the beginning of time, so we should not consider it lesser. It's a related but different state of being, and thankfully, it doesn't last, or we would all be insane.

Sometimes people love who aren’t healthy. So until you get healthy or are committed to working on it ( instead of avoiding it) , you can’t do the emotionally healthy love thing.

Unfortunately sometimes this comes out down the line. There are so many damaged people, so much baggage at this age. I’m looking for someone who is willing to work on emotionally healthy.. and it is soooooo hard to find.

Funny I get told my standards are too high. Sorry no. I want a relationship that’s good for me,not bad for me. I could’ve stayed in a relationship with someone who wanted an enabler otherwise.
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There really shouldn't be an either/or. Healthy love should improve your mental health and allow you to be rational. When you're feeling this, I personally think, it's because the relationship is detrimental to you in some way and/or it's infatuation, not love.

We like to poopoo infatuation around here, but people have been murdering and starting full-blown wars over it since the beginning of time, so we should not consider it lesser. It's a related but different state of being, and thankfully, it doesn't last, or we would all be insane.

Sometimes people love who aren’t healthy. So until you get healthy or are committed to working in it ( instead of avoiding it) , you can’t do the emotionally healthy love thing.

Unfortunately sometimes this comes out down the line. There is so many damaged people, so much baggage at this age. I’m looking for someone who is willing to work on emotionally healthy.. and it is soooooo hard to find.

Funny I get told my standards are too high. Sorry no. I want a relationship that’s good for me,not bad for me. I couldn’ve stayed in a relationship with someone who wanted an enabler otherwise.

I agree. As I've been open about, my marriage has not always been easy because we were both emotionally damaged. Still, it has always felt more stable and "good for me" than any other relationship I've been in. I know he has my back for life.
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Yeah that was me, until I walked the road to healthy and he wanted to stay unhealthy and tried to stop me from getting healthy. 😢 and look where that’s gotten him. I’m alonebut healthuer and happier and he almost died for the second time with an enabler.
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my moon wants romance & kittens.

my venus says no & is into strangulation.

That sounds horrible. Oh wait you’re cap Venus right?

lol ya

natal air moon 8th sq. earth venus 11th

logic vs emotion in a nutshell.
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Hmmm i’m Not sure about the aspects but we both have air moons & cap Venus. 😳 mine are both in the first house though. And then there is that 12th house sun that puts others first, wants to save them. Omg lifelong lessons. I’m not sure why I can’t get over the Cap 😢 it’s like we are so connected & no matter the logic our hearts keep wanting it. I have not met anyone who could take his place in the last 2 years. And logically it’s so stupid... anytime I see he’s paying attention again I try to find someone new lol. Might explain the last two years ugh....
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There really shouldn't be an either/or. Healthy love should improve your mental health and allow you to be rational. When you're feeling this, I personally think, it's because the relationship is detrimental to you in some way and/or it's infatuation, not love.

We like to poopoo infatuation around here, but people have been murdering and starting full-blown wars over it since the beginning of time, so we should not consider it lesser. It's a related but different state of being, and thankfully, it doesn't last, or we would all be insane.

Sometimes people love who aren’t healthy. So until you get healthy or are committed to working in it ( instead of avoiding it) , you can’t do the emotionally healthy love thing.

Unfortunately sometimes this comes out down the line. There is so many damaged people, so much baggage at this age. I’m looking for someone who is willing to work on emotionally healthy.. and it is soooooo hard to find.

Funny I get told my standards are too high. Sorry no. I want a relationship that’s good for me,not bad for me. I couldn’ve stayed in a relationship with someone who wanted an enabler otherwise.

I agree. As I've been open about, my marriage has not always been easy because we were both emotionally damaged. Still, it has always felt more stable and "good for me" than any other relationship I've been in. I know he has my back for life.

Yeah that was me, until I walked the road to healthy and he wanted to stay unhealthy and tried to stop me from getting healthy. 😢 and look where that’s gotten him. I’m alonebut healthuer and happier and he almost died for the second time with an enabler.

I am so sorry. 😢 That has to be so heartbreaking to watch. *hug*
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I had been grieving since May. We’ve been apart almost 8 years and he is remarried now ( since May but I found out in August) Lol so stupid. I think it’s more about what I wanted for him, that I’d tried to save his life for so long & I convinced myself he’d be okay when I left. But he chose the worst he could and seemed to have a death wish. From some luck, they say he needs surgery and not a transplant so that’s good. Maybe i finally have grieved the end of it. God I hope so.

My kids are healthier than they were & so am I. It was the right choice, but completely broke my heart.
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my moon wants romance & kittens.

my venus says no & is into strangulation.

That sounds horrible. Oh wait you’re cap Venus right?

lol ya

natal air moon 8th sq. earth venus 11th

logic vs emotion in a nutshell.

Hmmm i’m Not sure about the aspects but we both have air moons & cap Venus. 😳 mine are both in the first house though. And then there is that 12th house sun that puts others first, wants to save them. Omg lifelong lessons. I’m not sure why I can’t get over the Cap 😢 it’s like we are so connected & no matter the logic our hearts keep wanting it. I have not met anyone who could take his place in the last 2 years. And logically it’s so stupid... anytime I see he’s paying attention again I try to find someone new lol. Might explain the last two years ugh....

yours is in aqua though. mine is in dumb romantic libra. libra squares cap.

my mars is 12th so def suffer from putting others first, always.
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Lol. My mars is in 12th too... ugh!! It’s a struggle but I have been working really hard on that I’m important too! On the air moon, ya I’m not romantic really, but waiting for you to show me you’re safe before that damn air moon will let you in. I have to know it’s safe!! It’s just I don’t know how to deal with the emotions if you aren’t.
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There really shouldn't be an either/or. Healthy love should improve your mental health and allow you to be rational. When you're feeling this, I personally think, it's because the relationship is detrimental to you in some way and/or it's infatuation, not love.

We like to poopoo infatuation around here, but people have been murdering and starting full-blown wars over it since the beginning of time, so we should not consider it lesser. It's a related but different state of being, and thankfully, it doesn't last, or we would all be insane.

Sometimes people love who aren’t healthy. So until you get healthy or are committed to working in it ( instead of avoiding it) , you can’t do the emotionally healthy love thing.

Unfortunately sometimes this comes out down the line. There is so many damaged people, so much baggage at this age. I’m looking for someone who is willing to work on emotionally healthy.. and it is soooooo hard to find.

Funny I get told my standards are too high. Sorry no. I want a relationship that’s good for me,not bad for me. I couldn’ve stayed in a relationship with someone who wanted an enabler otherwise.

I agree. As I've been open about, my marriage has not always been easy because we were both emotionally damaged. Still, it has always felt more stable and "good for me" than any other relationship I've been in. I know he has my back for life.

Yeah that was me, until I walked the road to healthy and he wanted to stay unhealthy and tried to stop me from getting healthy. 😢 and look where that’s gotten him. I’m alonebut healthuer and happier and he almost died for the second time with an enabler.

I am so sorry. 😢 That has to be so heartbreaking to watch. *hug*

I had been grieving since May. We’ve been apart almost 8 years and he is remarried now ( since May but I found out in August) Lol so stupid. I think it’s more about what I wanted for him, that I’d tried to save his life for so long & I convinced myself he’d be okay when I left. But he chose the worst he could and seemed to have a death wish. From some luck, they say he needs surgery and not a transplant so that’s good. Maybe i finally have grieved the end of it. God I hope so.

My kids are healthier than they were & so am I. It was the right choice, but completely broke my heart.

I've seen you mention him from time to time. It's clear you will always care deeply about him. I hope he turns things around, for your kids' sake.
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Me too. I will always love him and that’s okay. I’ve accepted that.
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Do others struggle with this too?

What’s your sun sign/moon/Venus

Every time I’m in love it’s almost impossible to let go. Not impossible but holy cow it takes forever. Doesn’t matter if there is no contact or not btw.

Sag sun

Aqua moon

Cap Venus

I Don't have this problem. I had though I was younger. I was in love for 7 years with guy who didn't want me, but was manipulative and played on my naive nature. But that was the only time and I learnt my lesson.

Aquarius sun

Aries moon

Capricorn Venus
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Good for you! I question whether one is that situation.. but it’s not the norm.
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I am Leo sun cap moon sag rising and I struggle letting go. It completely consumes me x

Hmmm another cap moon

Must be something in cap moons I think lol

Cap placements have big feelings. I’m cap dominant, my ex husband has a cap moon, my ex bf is cap sun & dominant lol. Plus that Leo sun! Lol
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Lol yes I'm usually bed ridden in heart ache x it is tough though when you love so much yet others can get over things in a different way that seems easier
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Do others struggle with this too?

What’s your sun sign/moon/Venus

Every time I’m in love it’s almost impossible to let go. Not impossible but holy cow it takes forever. Doesn’t matter if there is no contact or not btw.

Sag sun

Aqua moon

Cap Venus

Fortunately, I am not one of those. Very strong cardinal signs in my chart. If its not working out, then I stay single until I found one who is worth my time. Making investments on people who aren't worth my time is a bummer. Time wasted cannot be taken back. Its gone. I like to invest wisely.

My venus is in the 7th house. If its not gonna last forever, I don't want it. Lol

Well the ones who are hard to let go of we’re supposed to be forever. Not just anyone is hard to let go of.

Hmmm. I guess it has something to do with Rose colored glass making u see them as forever even if they show signs that they are not. It happens. Through the years I have just learned to see people for who they are. As far as relationships go, not everyone or most are categorised as "forever" because its just not possible. Especially when it comes to love. As friends, it's a different story. Family is a different story.
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That assumes you think logically about relationships. Perhaps my generation was different. I believed love conquered all. I found out sometimes love is not enough. People have demons, baggage and you have to mature to beat them. Not everyone matures or evolves to do that. You can’t make them. I learned the hard way. Sometimes a forever relationship ends because something happened to change the direction of the path. In my case, that’s what happened. I don’t know how one can think all these 20+ year marriages were just not forever relationships and therefore not love. That’s ridiculous.
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There really shouldn't be an either/or. Healthy love should improve your mental health and allow you to be rational. When you're feeling this, I personally think, it's because the relationship is detrimental to you in some way and/or it's infatuation, not love.

We like to poopoo infatuation around here, but people have been murdering and starting full-blown wars over it since the beginning of time, so we should not consider it lesser. It's a related but different state of being, and thankfully, it doesn't last, or we would all be insane.

Sometimes people love who aren’t healthy. So until you get healthy or are committed to working in it ( instead of avoiding it) , you can’t do the emotionally healthy love thing.

Unfortunately sometimes this comes out down the line. There is so many damaged people, so much baggage at this age. I’m looking for someone who is willing to work on emotionally healthy.. and it is soooooo hard to find.

Funny I get told my standards are too high. Sorry no. I want a relationship that’s good for me,not bad for me. I couldn’ve stayed in a relationship with someone who wanted an enabler otherwise.

I agree. As I've been open about, my marriage has not always been easy because we were both emotionally damaged. Still, it has always felt more stable and "good for me" than any other relationship I've been in. I know he has my back for life.
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One can hope but knowing...is fooling yourself.
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Do others struggle with this too?

What’s your sun sign/moon/Venus

Every time I’m in love it’s almost impossible to let go. Not impossible but holy cow it takes forever. Doesn’t matter if there is no contact or not btw.

Sag sun

Aqua moon

Cap Venus

Fortunately, I am not one of those. Very strong cardinal signs in my chart. If its not working out, then I stay single until I found one who is worth my time. Making investments on people who aren't worth my time is a bummer. Time wasted cannot be taken back. Its gone. I like to invest wisely.

My venus is in the 7th house. If its not gonna last forever, I don't want it. Lol

Well the ones who are hard to let go of we’re supposed to be forever. Not just anyone is hard to let go of.

Hmmm. I guess it has something to do with Rose colored glass making u see them as forever even if they show signs that they are not. It happens. Through the years I have just learned to see people for who they are. As far as relationships go, not everyone or most are categorised as "forever" because its just not possible. Especially when it comes to love. As friends, it's a different story. Family is a different story.

That assumes you think logically about relationships. Perhaps my generation was different. I believed love conquered all. I found out sometimes love is not enough. People have demons, baggage and you have to mature to beat them. Not everyone matures or evolves to do that. You can’t make them. I learned the hard way. Sometimes a forever relationship ends because something happened to change the direction of the path. In my case, that’s what happened. I don’t know how one can think all these 20+ year marriages were just not forever relationships and therefore not love. That’s ridiculous.

It's not possible to have a 20+ year marriage so many times is it? All I'm saying is, true love is just one person. It can't be many. It can't be all of them. Therefore, the rest are just in someone's life to teach a lesson, to help the person grow or to direct that person to the one that's actually for long-term. There is a difference between someone who is Inlove with the right person vs a serial monogamist who thinks he or is she is always Inlove, never single and just always on the lookout for a new relationship when one relationship doesn't workout. That's basically addiction to relationships.
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There’s only one true love in life? Addiction to relationships, serial monagamists.hmmm really?

I am not talking about bouncing from one relationship to another. I’m saying how in the world when people have a 20+ year marriage can you say they were not in love? It was only a lesson? I was not saying multiple 20+ relationships but all the people out there who’ve had them.

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Do others struggle with this too?

What’s your sun sign/moon/Venus

Every time I’m in love it’s almost impossible to let go. Not impossible but holy cow it takes forever. Doesn’t matter if there is no contact or not btw.

Sag sun

Aqua moon

Cap Venus

Fortunately, I am not one of those. Very strong cardinal signs in my chart. If its not working out, then I stay single until I found one who is worth my time. Making investments on people who aren't worth my time is a bummer. Time wasted cannot be taken back. Its gone. I like to invest wisely.

My venus is in the 7th house. If its not gonna last forever, I don't want it. Lol

Well the ones who are hard to let go of we’re supposed to be forever. Not just anyone is hard to let go of.

Hmmm. I guess it has something to do with Rose colored glass making u see them as forever even if they show signs that they are not. It happens. Through the years I have just learned to see people for who they are. As far as relationships go, not everyone or most are categorised as "forever" because its just not possible. Especially when it comes to love. As friends, it's a different story. Family is a different story.

That assumes you think logically about relationships. Perhaps my generation was different. I believed love conquered all. I found out sometimes love is not enough. People have demons, baggage and you have to mature to beat them. Not everyone matures or evolves to do that. You can’t make them. I learned the hard way. Sometimes a forever relationship ends because something happened to change the direction of the path. In my case, that’s what happened. I don’t know how one can think all these 20+ year marriages were just not forever relationships and therefore not love. That’s ridiculous.

It's not possible to have a 20+ year marriage so many times is it? All I'm saying is, true love is just one person. It can't be many. It can't be all of them. Therefore, the rest are just in someone's life to teach a lesson, to help the person grow or to direct that person to the one that's actually for long-term. There is a difference between someone who is Inlove with the right person vs a serial monogamist who thinks he or is she is always Inlove, never single and just always on the lookout for a new relationship when one relationship doesn't workout. That's basically addiction to relationships.

There’s only one true love in life? Addiction to relationships, serial monagamists.hmmm really?

I am not talking about bouncing from one relationship to another. I’m saying how in the world when people have a 20+ year marriage can you say they were not in love? It was only a lesson? I was not saying multiple 20+ relationships but all the people out there who’ve had them.

I don't understand what's hard to understand about a relationship that ended. If it ended, it's finished. No point in romanticising the breakup isn't it? Sure there must be love at some point in a 20+ year rs. But if it ended outside of the "til death do us part" thing like someone cheated, someone fell out of love, they grew apart, what's even the point in analysing and holding on? Surely it's easy to let go what once was to move on to better things. The obsession about the past doesn't help anyone to move forward.

Clearly it wasn't the right kind of love if it didn't last. It wasn't unconditional. I honestly don't know what's confusing about it.
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It is when the love doesn’t end, is still unconditional, but the relationship ends that it’s difficult to let go. None of the things you mentioned necessarily happened in any of these cases. You are thinking in black & white. Life is not necessarily like that.
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Do others struggle with this too?

What’s your sun sign/moon/Venus

Every time I’m in love it’s almost impossible to let go. Not impossible but holy cow it takes forever. Doesn’t matter if there is no contact or not btw.

Sag sun

Aqua moon

Cap Venus

Fortunately, I am not one of those. Very strong cardinal signs in my chart. If its not working out, then I stay single until I found one who is worth my time. Making investments on people who aren't worth my time is a bummer. Time wasted cannot be taken back. Its gone. I like to invest wisely.

My venus is in the 7th house. If its not gonna last forever, I don't want it. Lol

Well the ones who are hard to let go of we’re supposed to be forever. Not just anyone is hard to let go of.

Hmmm. I guess it has something to do with Rose colored glass making u see them as forever even if they show signs that they are not. It happens. Through the years I have just learned to see people for who they are. As far as relationships go, not everyone or most are categorised as "forever" because its just not possible. Especially when it comes to love. As friends, it's a different story. Family is a different story.

That assumes you think logically about relationships. Perhaps my generation was different. I believed love conquered all. I found out sometimes love is not enough. People have demons, baggage and you have to mature to beat them. Not everyone matures or evolves to do that. You can’t make them. I learned the hard way. Sometimes a forever relationship ends because something happened to change the direction of the path. In my case, that’s what happened. I don’t know how one can think all these 20+ year marriages were just not forever relationships and therefore not love. That’s ridiculous.

It's not possible to have a 20+ year marriage so many times is it? All I'm saying is, true love is just one person. It can't be many. It can't be all of them. Therefore, the rest are just in someone's life to teach a lesson, to help the person grow or to direct that person to the one that's actually for long-term. There is a difference between someone who is Inlove with the right person vs a serial monogamist who thinks he or is she is always Inlove, never single and just always on the lookout for a new relationship when one relationship doesn't workout. That's basically addiction to relationships.

There’s only one true love in life? Addiction to relationships, serial monagamists.hmmm really?

I am not talking about bouncing from one relationship to another. I’m saying how in the world when people have a 20+ year marriage can you say they were not in love? It was only a lesson? I was not saying multiple 20+ relationships but all the people out there who’ve had them.

I don't understand what's hard to understand about a relationship that ended. If it ended, it's finished. No point in romanticising the breakup isn't it? Sure there must be love at some point in a 20+ year rs. But if it ended outside of the "til death do us part" thing like someone cheated, someone fell out of love, they grew apart, what's even the point in analysing and holding on? Surely it's easy to let go what once was to move on to better things. The obsession about the past doesn't help anyone to move forward.

Clearly it wasn't the right kind of love if it didn't last. It wasn't unconditional. I honestly don't know what's confusing about it.

It is when the love doesn’t end, is still unconditional, but the relationship ends that it’s difficult to let go. None of the things you mentioned necessarily happened in any of these cases. You are thinking in black & white. Life is not necessarily like that.

It's my opinion. I don't think anything is wrong with it. Sure life is not necessarily black and white. But that's also the reason why there is no point in complicating it even more by romanticising a relationship that already ended. Its not just suffering for you but for the other person as well. If you truly know what love is, then you know that letting go means letting the other person find his or her happiness and moving on with your life by trying to find your own happiness as well.

I might sound cold but I have just never been too obsessed with relationships. And I can't relate to people who are. Like the other people who posted a comment, the confusion between the heart and mind doesn't happen to me. It did once but I just got over it. To me, there is no point hanging on to something that doesn't make me happy. I respect myself too much to hurt myself intentionally. And I respect my exes too much to hold on to them after the rs is finished.
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Well different people process differently. Depending on placements depends on how you process. Some are deeper than others, some are able to cut things off, and some get triggered when they think they’ve hidden it away so they can’t be hurt. I’m personally the triggered type, it’s very inconvenient. I have found when that happens, I need to feel the feels so I can get through it and get over it. Otherwise it festers and becomes much worse later on. It doesn’t mean the other person even knows how you process. Except when your ex has your back after years of separation. That’s a clue. Children make it difficult to cut someone off also.
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There really shouldn't be an either/or. Healthy love should improve your mental health and allow you to be rational. When you're feeling this, I personally think, it's because the relationship is detrimental to you in some way and/or it's infatuation, not love.

We like to poopoo infatuation around here, but people have been murdering and starting full-blown wars over it since the beginning of time, so we should not consider it lesser. It's a related but different state of being, and thankfully, it doesn't last, or we would all be insane.

Sometimes people love who aren’t healthy. So until you get healthy or are committed to working in it ( instead of avoiding it) , you can’t do the emotionally healthy love thing.

Unfortunately sometimes this comes out down the line. There is so many damaged people, so much baggage at this age. I’m looking for someone who is willing to work on emotionally healthy.. and it is soooooo hard to find.

Funny I get told my standards are too high. Sorry no. I want a relationship that’s good for me,not bad for me. I couldn’ve stayed in a relationship with someone who wanted an enabler otherwise.

I agree. As I've been open about, my marriage has not always been easy because we were both emotionally damaged. Still, it has always felt more stable and "good for me" than any other relationship I've been in. I know he has my back for life.

One can hope but knowing...is fooling yourself.

Maybe some day you too will experience the gift of knowing a man really loves you. *kiss*
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Only mentally unstable people are SURE that life will always be the way it is...and THEN he goes to buy milk and never comes back. Lmao

To me knowing that man loves me is half of deal. I must love the man! I am sorry to rub it in again. I am hoping one day you’ll wake up LOVING him. Not just appreciating him being a good man...

THAT will be amazing. You’ll see.
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There really shouldn't be an either/or. Healthy love should improve your mental health and allow you to be rational. When you're feeling this, I personally think, it's because the relationship is detrimental to you in some way and/or it's infatuation, not love.

We like to poopoo infatuation around here, but people have been murdering and starting full-blown wars over it since the beginning of time, so we should not consider it lesser. It's a related but different state of being, and thankfully, it doesn't last, or we would all be insane.

Sometimes people love who aren’t healthy. So until you get healthy or are committed to working in it ( instead of avoiding it) , you can’t do the emotionally healthy love thing.

Unfortunately sometimes this comes out down the line. There is so many damaged people, so much baggage at this age. I’m looking for someone who is willing to work on emotionally healthy.. and it is soooooo hard to find.

Funny I get told my standards are too high. Sorry no. I want a relationship that’s good for me,not bad for me. I couldn’ve stayed in a relationship with someone who wanted an enabler otherwise.

I agree. As I've been open about, my marriage has not always been easy because we were both emotionally damaged. Still, it has always felt more stable and "good for me" than any other relationship I've been in. I know he has my back for life.

One can hope but knowing...is fooling yourself.

Maybe some day you too will experience the gift of knowing a man really loves you. *kiss*

Only mentally unstable people are SURE that life will always be the way it is...and THEN he goes to buy milk and never comes back. Lmao

To me knowing that man loves me is half of deal. I must love the man! I am sorry to rub it in again. I am hoping one day you’ll wake up LOVING him. Not just appreciating him being a good man...

THAT will be amazing. You’ll see.

Do you miss LadyNeptune? Is that why you’ve started harassing me? Your messy professions of love look like a horny child, not a grown woman in love, Gemi.
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Where did she go? No. I do r miss her. We’ve stopped being ‘lovers’ after I’ve got divorce.

She lost her mojo. And I stopped because she stopped. I don’t care starting shit but I am for sure won’t let it go unattended.

See, you are giving yourself away again!

You are using ‘horny’ as an insult when every woman who loves and desires her man’s body is taking it as ongoing condition.

So you aren’t horny - and I told you why and you know I am right but you won’t admit that you married ‘father like’ man and have never told him ‘show me that dick NOW’ have you? 🤪😂
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There really shouldn't be an either/or. Healthy love should improve your mental health and allow you to be rational. When you're feeling this, I personally think, it's because the relationship is detrimental to you in some way and/or it's infatuation, not love.

We like to poopoo infatuation around here, but people have been murdering and starting full-blown wars over it since the beginning of time, so we should not consider it lesser. It's a related but different state of being, and thankfully, it doesn't last, or we would all be insane.

Sometimes people love who aren’t healthy. So until you get healthy or are committed to working in it ( instead of avoiding it) , you can’t do the emotionally healthy love thing.

Unfortunately sometimes this comes out down the line. There is so many damaged people, so much baggage at this age. I’m looking for someone who is willing to work on emotionally healthy.. and it is soooooo hard to find.

Funny I get told my standards are too high. Sorry no. I want a relationship that’s good for me,not bad for me. I couldn’ve stayed in a relationship with someone who wanted an enabler otherwise.

I agree. As I've been open about, my marriage has not always been easy because we were both emotionally damaged. Still, it has always felt more stable and "good for me" than any other relationship I've been in. I know he has my back for life.

One can hope but knowing...is fooling yourself.

Maybe some day you too will experience the gift of knowing a man really loves you. *kiss*

Only mentally unstable people are SURE that life will always be the way it is...and THEN he goes to buy milk and never comes back. Lmao

To me knowing that man loves me is half of deal. I must love the man! I am sorry to rub it in again. I am hoping one day you’ll wake up LOVING him. Not just appreciating him being a good man...

THAT will be amazing. You’ll see.

Do you miss LadyNeptune? Is that why you’ve started harassing me? Your messy professions of love look like a horny child, not a grown woman in love, Gemi.

Where did she go? No. I do r miss her. We’ve stopped being ‘lovers’ after I’ve got divorce.

She lost her mojo. And I stopped because she stopped. I don’t care starting shit but I am for sure won’t let it go unattended.

See, you are giving yourself away again!

You are using ‘horny’ as an insult when every woman who loves and desires her man’s body is taking it as ongoing condition.

So you aren’t horny - and I told you why and you know I am right but you won’t admit that you married ‘father like’ man and have never told him ‘show me that dick NOW’ have you? 🤪😂

I don't know why you get such pleasure from the idea that you've "caught" me not loving my husband. I'm not going to tell you about the intimate things we say to each other about sex. That's personal. And clearly, that's what you're digging for.

No, I do not shout "show me that dick" unless I am joking. You're gross and totally unromantic.
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You are so not...getting it!

I don’t need you to tell me or anybody things you saying to him...whew!

Things that you SAYING here showing it all and yes! That how I caught you...no sexy words needed. What you said was enough...
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Do others struggle with this too?

What’s your sun sign/moon/Venus

Every time I’m in love it’s almost impossible to let go. Not impossible but holy cow it takes forever. Doesn’t matter if there is no contact or not btw.

Sag sun

Aqua moon

Cap Venus

no struggles at all.

my pride takes more of a blow than my heart ....i am very pragmatic and logical about relationships.

not that i don´t love or form attachements, there are people i will always love in my own peculiar way but don´t ever want to see again.

pisces sun

scorp moon

aqua venus
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I am also love to death unless I had been hurt in any way...real or imaginative...there goes that love.

That’s why I am never SURE of others ‘forever and ever’ because I know how I am. So...they could be as well.
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Lmao!

Yeah...that’s funny.

And what I said was actually a joke but you aren’t very intuitive and it’s good because now I have this gif to laugh.

🤦‍♀️Poor woman...

All of your posts in my mind...

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I am glad there is something in your mind...lmao
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my moon wants romance & kittens.

my venus says no & is into strangulation.

That sounds horrible. Oh wait you’re cap Venus right?

lol ya

natal air moon 8th sq. earth venus 11th

logic vs emotion in a nutshell.

Hmmm i’m Not sure about the aspects but we both have air moons & cap Venus. 😳 mine are both in the first house though. And then there is that 12th house sun that puts others first, wants to save them. Omg lifelong lessons. I’m not sure why I can’t get over the Cap 😢 it’s like we are so connected & no matter the logic our hearts keep wanting it. I have not met anyone who could take his place in the last 2 years. And logically it’s so stupid... anytime I see he’s paying attention again I try to find someone new lol. Might explain the last two years ugh....

yours is in aqua though. mine is in dumb romantic libra. libra squares cap.

my mars is 12th so def suffer from putting others first, always.

Lol. My mars is in 12th too... ugh!! It’s a struggle but I have been working really hard on that I’m important too! On the air moon, ya I’m not romantic really, but waiting for you to show me you’re safe before that damn air moon will let you in. I have to know it’s safe!! It’s just I don’t know how to deal with the emotions if you aren’t.
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oh my, the one i've been trying to let go has aqua moon, it's unfair for me that you expect others to show they're safe first.

then my mars is in 12th, too
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Do others struggle with this too?

What’s your sun sign/moon/Venus

Every time I’m in love it’s almost impossible to let go. Not impossible but holy cow it takes forever. Doesn’t matter if there is no contact or not btw.

Sag sun

Aqua moon

Cap Venus

Fortunately, I am not one of those. Very strong cardinal signs in my chart. If its not working out, then I stay single until I found one who is worth my time. Making investments on people who aren't worth my time is a bummer. Time wasted cannot be taken back. Its gone. I like to invest wisely.

My venus is in the 7th house. If its not gonna last forever, I don't want it. Lol

Well the ones who are hard to let go of we’re supposed to be forever. Not just anyone is hard to let go of.

Hmmm. I guess it has something to do with Rose colored glass making u see them as forever even if they show signs that they are not. It happens. Through the years I have just learned to see people for who they are. As far as relationships go, not everyone or most are categorised as "forever" because its just not possible. Especially when it comes to love. As friends, it's a different story. Family is a different story.

That assumes you think logically about relationships. Perhaps my generation was different. I believed love conquered all. I found out sometimes love is not enough. People have demons, baggage and you have to mature to beat them. Not everyone matures or evolves to do that. You can’t make them. I learned the hard way. Sometimes a forever relationship ends because something happened to change the direction of the path. In my case, that’s what happened. I don’t know how one can think all these 20+ year marriages were just not forever relationships and therefore not love. That’s ridiculous.

It's not possible to have a 20+ year marriage so many times is it? All I'm saying is, true love is just one person. It can't be many. It can't be all of them. Therefore, the rest are just in someone's life to teach a lesson, to help the person grow or to direct that person to the one that's actually for long-term. There is a difference between someone who is Inlove with the right person vs a serial monogamist who thinks he or is she is always Inlove, never single and just always on the lookout for a new relationship when one relationship doesn't workout. That's basically addiction to relationships.
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i can't understand the style of having options, is it like, when they make the decision, they'd stick to it forever? but will they ever decide? i prefer them giving it a try and if it doesn't work out, be honest then leave.

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