Marie Trigtignant,french

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i never heard of her, and besides the famous French Bridget Bardot, who had numerous men and a handful of marriages that didnt last until her last husband past her 50s....she seemed like a late bloomer very very late, almost 2nd saturn return late.

and the current Sophie Marceau, Juliette Binoche...all famous french actresses.

this woman's chart is, Taurus rising (there's the algol, demon) and especially with women they get abused...i notice this with taurus rising, taurus moon, taurus suns (not all, but just a pattern i see) even other taurus placements ..

for example, Nicole Simpson has two taurus placements. one of them is 10 degree taurus mercury, the worst algol...and she was brutally killed.

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this is Marie Trigtignant.

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http://blog.virgovault.com/2012/10/02/fixed-star-algol-25-taurus-sexual-emotional-psychological-drives-heterosexual-men-algol/

here she has the saddest eyes..

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https://www.astrotheme.fr/astrologie/Marie_Trintignant

taurus rising, Aquarius sun, Leo moon. Capricorn mars. (She has a stellium in Aquarius, sun, saturn, Jupiter and mercury all opposing her Leo moon) squaring her taurus rising.

she was married to a leo rising cancer sun, aries mars, taurus moon. His leo rising makes his 7th house Aquarius for his marriage partner...or those energies.

samuel bentritchet.

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Samuel_Benchetrit

this was them together

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she was brutally killed by a fellow frenchman.

reports said her head was smashed /punched into at least 19 times causing her death.

"Marie Trintignant died aged 41 of a cerebral edema on 1 August 2003 in Vilnius, Lithuania, as a result of being repeatedly punched by her boyfriend Bertrand Cantat, lead singer with the French rock group Noir DĂŠsir.[3]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Trintignant



when the man who killed her was about to be released, many female activists & victim's parents joined in to prevent his release back in 2007.

female activists joined in to rally against women's abuse that kills.

i think they did the same for nicole simpson.



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her ex husband is now with Vanessa Paradisj who was with Johnny Depp before... he married Amber heard

this is him now with Vanessa Paradis

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the man responsible for her death, bertrand cantant. He also was cited to abuse his ex wife which caused her suicide, or inadvertently caused her suicide. His ex wife is a double leo cancer stellium.

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he is a pisces sun/ aries mars, jupiter aries, sagittarius moon, cap rising, pisces stellium including mercury and mars and sun.(similar to my ex husband's mars, mercury sun) but my ex pisces never physically abused me. he was just an addict and criminal.

https://www.astrotheme.fr/astrologie/Bertrand_Cantat
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my mother in law reccommneded to watch "Big little lies"



i haven't seen it yet cause it's not on netflix but....there are some scenes, some couples look "Perfect"

succesfful, beautiful with nice home, nice jobs, nice kids...

but deep down...you see abuse ..like this one.









read the commentors, many of them understand.



this is Marie at 41 before she died.



sad eyes, the 40s wrinkles showing maturity and age, her live shortened by abuse.



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"he is a pisces sun/ aries mars, jupiter aries, sagittarius moon, cap rising, pisces stellium including mercury and mars and sun.(similar to my ex husband's mars, mercury sun) but my ex pisces never physically abused me. he was just an addict and criminal."

Lisa, you were lucky to get rid of him x

This being said, I'm also Pisces with Aries Mars, so I feel like I have to defend these placements.. I punched a few boys in my youth and I have sometimes aggressive thoughts, but keep them in check. There is nothing addictive or criminal about me. Maybe it's my Aqua Merc, lol.
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"he is a pisces sun/ aries mars, jupiter aries, sagittarius moon, cap rising, pisces stellium including mercury and mars and sun.(similar to my ex husband's mars, mercury sun) but my ex pisces never physically abused me. he was just an addict and criminal."

Lisa, you were lucky to get rid of him x

This being said, I'm also Pisces with Aries Mars, so I feel like I have to defend these placements.. I punched a few boys in my youth and I have sometimes aggressive thoughts, but keep them in check. There is nothing addictive or criminal about me. Maybe it's my Aqua Merc, lol.
i made the mistake of his placements (bertrand cantanti) he has pisces mars but aries venus. which is exactly like my ex husband.

but his aries venus conjunct jupiter aries (bertrand the murderer) . my ex has jupiter aquarius. leo rising.



i dont really see women being abusive as much .. if they are abusing, it's nagging. lol

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"he is a pisces sun/ aries mars, jupiter aries, sagittarius moon, cap rising, pisces stellium including mercury and mars and sun.(similar to my ex husband's mars, mercury sun) but my ex pisces never physically abused me. he was just an addict and criminal."

Lisa, you were lucky to get rid of him x

This being said, I'm also Pisces with Aries Mars, so I feel like I have to defend these placements.. I punched a few boys in my youth and I have sometimes aggressive thoughts, but keep them in check. There is nothing addictive or criminal about me. Maybe it's my Aqua Merc, lol.
i made the mistake of his placements (bertrand cantanti) he has pisces mars but aries venus. which is exactly like my ex husband.

but his aries venus conjunct jupiter aries (bertrand the murderer) . my ex has jupiter aquarius. leo rising.



i dont really see women being abusive as much .. if they are abusing, it's nagging. lol

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Wow Lisa! My longest lived with relationship was Pisces with Aries Venus, Pisces Mars and Jupiter Aqua!! He is the sweetest man you could imagine. Won't hurt a fly.

Virgo Rising.
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"he is a pisces sun/ aries mars, jupiter aries, sagittarius moon, cap rising, pisces stellium including mercury and mars and sun.(similar to my ex husband's mars, mercury sun) but my ex pisces never physically abused me. he was just an addict and criminal."

Lisa, you were lucky to get rid of him x

This being said, I'm also Pisces with Aries Mars, so I feel like I have to defend these placements.. I punched a few boys in my youth and I have sometimes aggressive thoughts, but keep them in check. There is nothing addictive or criminal about me. Maybe it's my Aqua Merc, lol.
i made the mistake of his placements (bertrand cantanti) he has pisces mars but aries venus. which is exactly like my ex husband.

but his aries venus conjunct jupiter aries (bertrand the murderer) . my ex has jupiter aquarius. leo rising.



i dont really see women being abusive as much .. if they are abusing, it's nagging. lol


Wow Lisa! My longest lived with relationship was Pisces with Aries Venus, Pisces Mars and Jupiter Aqua!! He is the sweetest man you could imagine. Won't hurt a fly.

Virgo Rising.
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probably different upbringing too. i always felt sad about his childhood and his weaknesses (for the heroin addiction ... but he just didnt understand that you dont break into people's homes...he was into burglaries...it was the thrill for him. so he went to prison) you were really lucky.
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"he is a pisces sun/ aries mars, jupiter aries, sagittarius moon, cap rising, pisces stellium including mercury and mars and sun.(similar to my ex husband's mars, mercury sun) but my ex pisces never physically abused me. he was just an addict and criminal."

Lisa, you were lucky to get rid of him x

This being said, I'm also Pisces with Aries Mars, so I feel like I have to defend these placements.. I punched a few boys in my youth and I have sometimes aggressive thoughts, but keep them in check. There is nothing addictive or criminal about me. Maybe it's my Aqua Merc, lol.
i made the mistake of his placements (bertrand cantanti) he has pisces mars but aries venus. which is exactly like my ex husband.

but his aries venus conjunct jupiter aries (bertrand the murderer) . my ex has jupiter aquarius. leo rising.



i dont really see women being abusive as much .. if they are abusing, it's nagging. lol


Wow Lisa! My longest lived with relationship was Pisces with Aries Venus, Pisces Mars and Jupiter Aqua!! He is the sweetest man you could imagine. Won't hurt a fly.

Virgo Rising.
probably different upbringing too. i always felt sad about his childhood and his weaknesses (for the heroin addiction ... but he just didnt understand that you dont break into people's homes...he was into burglaries...it was the thrill for him. so he went to prison) you were really lucky.
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Yes, you could be right. Mine's is the eldest of three children and had to work as a teenager for pocket money. No drugs at all, he is a University professor, lol! His Virgo rising makes him control his alcohol intake to the point he drink only tee if he went to the pub the day before. He is addicted, but to healthy living....running, pilates, pump and toning....yes, HE is lucky
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"he is a pisces sun/ aries mars, jupiter aries, sagittarius moon, cap rising, pisces stellium including mercury and mars and sun.(similar to my ex husband's mars, mercury sun) but my ex pisces never physically abused me. he was just an addict and criminal."

Lisa, you were lucky to get rid of him x

This being said, I'm also Pisces with Aries Mars, so I feel like I have to defend these placements.. I punched a few boys in my youth and I have sometimes aggressive thoughts, but keep them in check. There is nothing addictive or criminal about me. Maybe it's my Aqua Merc, lol.
i made the mistake of his placements (bertrand cantanti) he has pisces mars but aries venus. which is exactly like my ex husband.

but his aries venus conjunct jupiter aries (bertrand the murderer) . my ex has jupiter aquarius. leo rising.



i dont really see women being abusive as much .. if they are abusing, it's nagging. lol


Wow Lisa! My longest lived with relationship was Pisces with Aries Venus, Pisces Mars and Jupiter Aqua!! He is the sweetest man you could imagine. Won't hurt a fly.

Virgo Rising.
probably different upbringing too. i always felt sad about his childhood and his weaknesses (for the heroin addiction ... but he just didnt understand that you dont break into people's homes...he was into burglaries...it was the thrill for him. so he went to prison) you were really lucky.
Yes, you could be right. Mine's is the eldest of three children and had to work as a teenager for pocket money. No drugs at all, he is a University professor, lol! His Virgo rising makes him control his alcohol intake to the point he drink only tee if he went to the pub the day before. He is addicted, but to healthy living....running, pilates, pump and toning....yes, HE is lucky
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my man has the keanu reeves type of rising lol



if it's the donald trump leo rising.....



you get this..

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the french are really into astrology...as part of astrotheme, they have a french version.

Also, here , a french astrologer wrote about the coincidences and similarities of Bertrand cantati and Oscar Pistorious.

http://www.theme-astrologie.com/fr/blog/55/bertrand-cantat-oscar-pistorius



if you go to the site, it's in french, but you can use a translator if you dont understand





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I don't like all these cosmo shit you post, but cantat's ex wife was really beautiful naturally, google image search her. She has beautiful attitudes even tough she looks kinda old. Doesn't even need make up to look good.

Cantat was good looking too even though he let himself go recently.

The woman he supposedly killed looks trashy in every pic. Daughter of stars and probably spoiled child.

The other guy you posted is a jewish producer and probably spends his time sleeping with starlets. Zero relevance.
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i think his ex wife was a virgo who committed suicide at their home while he was in there

their kids found her.. hanged herself i think

some speculate he might've killed her or something

but she's been accusing him of being emotionally/mentally abusive to her
she's actually a double Leo. He was a capricorn rising, pisces sun, sag moon. aries venus, pisces mars jupiter aries.

but she may have some virgo. I have to re-look at her chart. or she's a cusper near the virgo sun.



yeah it's too suspicious. that all of a sudden he gets out of prison, he was the last to see her as an adult, and had complaints of him abusing her and then she commits suicide??
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I don't like all these cosmo shit you post, but cantat's ex wife was really beautiful naturally, google image search her. She has beautiful attitudes even tough she looks kinda old. Doesn't even need make up to look good.

Cantat was good looking too even though he let himself go recently.

The woman he supposedly killed looks trashy in every pic. Daughter of stars and probably spoiled child.

The other guy you posted is a jewish producer and probably spends his time sleeping with starlets. Zero relevance.
this woman is his ex wife.

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they both died. one killed by him, the other...this one... most likely suicide due to his abuse.
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I don't like all these cosmo shit you post, but cantat's ex wife was really beautiful naturally, google image search her. She has beautiful attitudes even tough she looks kinda old. Doesn't even need make up to look good.

Cantat was good looking too even though he let himself go recently.

The woman he supposedly killed looks trashy in every pic. Daughter of stars and probably spoiled child.

The other guy you posted is a jewish producer and probably spends his time sleeping with starlets. Zero relevance.


what does her looks have to do with this and the ex wife?

what i understand is he was more jealous of Marie trigtignant's communication with her ex husband. He beat her up for it.



i dont hear much physical abuse complaints from the ex wife. but he was still abusive to her. apparantly he left her for marie. was more obsessive and possessive about marie.

it's about energy. he wanted marie more. which is really strange cause he killed her. i guess it's that motto..if i can't have you no one can.

he's jsut really sick.
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i think his ex wife was a virgo who committed suicide at their home while he was in there

their kids found her.. hanged herself i think

some speculate he might've killed her or something

but she's been accusing him of being emotionally/mentally abusive to her
she's actually a double Leo. He was a capricorn rising, pisces sun, sag moon. aries venus, pisces mars jupiter aries.

but she may have some virgo. I have to re-look at her chart. or she's a cusper near the virgo sun.



yeah it's too suspicious. that all of a sudden he gets out of prison, he was the last to see her as an adult, and had complaints of him abusing her and then she commits suicide??
yeah i think her bday makes her more of a virgo-leo cusper
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23 august

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krisztina_R% C3% A1dy



you're right...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_(astrology)



23 is the last day. that's cusp.

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you're the pisces type of guy that would go for his ex wife.

i think you are aqua dominant. i remember you have aqua venus lol

you dont tell your chart placements often on here though. i get the vibe of air dominannt.



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The other guy you posted is a jewish producer and probably spends his time sleeping with starlets.
raping you mean?
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smh.

he just trying to get a nut.
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@sierra, they dont have kristina rady's chart on astrotheme though.

she wasn't famous like Bertrand or Marie (singer of a band and her an actress from childhood)



but wow, she has a virgo stellium!!! she's a triple leo, Sun, moon, Mars leo. 5 planets in virgo, sierra. that's ALOT of virgo.

did any of you read the french site?

http://www.theme-astrologie.com/fr/blog/55/bertrand-cantat-oscar-pistorius



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i think his ex wife was a virgo who committed suicide at their home while he was in there

their kids found her.. hanged herself i think

some speculate he might've killed her or something

but she's been accusing him of being emotionally/mentally abusive to her
she's actually a double Leo. He was a capricorn rising, pisces sun, sag moon. aries venus, pisces mars jupiter aries.

but she may have some virgo. I have to re-look at her chart. or she's a cusper near the virgo sun.



yeah it's too suspicious. that all of a sudden he gets out of prison, he was the last to see her as an adult, and had complaints of him abusing her and then she commits suicide??
yeah i think her bday makes her more of a virgo-leo cusper
23 august

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krisztina_R% C3% A1dy



you're right...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_(astrology)



23 is the last day. that's cusp.


they both have fire in them

but why they get so depressing
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she left a suicide note too.



it was stated that he left her for marie, separation. which is why no divorce at that time, but processing.

also with marie she left her husband.

it's weird he is SO violent with marie... to the point of killing her.

but with his ex wife?? he didnt physically abuse her. only mentally abuse her /gas lighting which is gross too.



"She had spoken out in defence of her ex-husband during his trial in Lithuania, saying he had never been violent with her during their marriage."

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/french-rock-star-bertrand-cantat-questioned-after-ex-wife-kristina-radys-suicide/news-story/6c5e137e466df4b23909d2d547533a4b

both were probably obsessed with eachother. eww. he looks too creepy to me.

hydroah likes the ex wife's looks more sooo now i understand where he coming from...

cause that bertrand looks like a creepy guy. and scary fucker!!

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@sierra, they dont have kristina rady's chart on astrotheme though.

she wasn't famous like Bertrand or Marie (singer of a band and her an actress from childhood)



but wow, she has a virgo stellium!!! she's a triple leo, Sun, moon, Mars leo. 5 planets in virgo, sierra. that's ALOT of virgo.

did any of you read the french site?

http://www.theme-astrologie.com/fr/blog/55/bertrand-cantat-oscar-pistorius






that's sad asf

i know a virgo chick who poisoned herself who was also with a pisces

sometimes it gets really destructive from what i've noticed
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from my understanding

it seemed like she loved him more than he loved her. which sucks and happens alot in marriages.

it's unbalanced.

she stood by him for years and it seemed they had a row, (they probably keep in touch due to the children) cause their children still not adult (one is 7years old the other 12)

and i bet she killed herself cause she couldnt take it anymore ...his abuse.

if only she had a support, that she doesn't need that fucker. and just walk away. (i've seen it alot in this forum where the woman loves the man more) that man is crazy and insane. he should have left her alone.

but did you read about his cranial trauma when he was 16 years old? it's on wikipedia.
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i think his ex wife was a virgo who committed suicide at their home while he was in there

their kids found her.. hanged herself i think

some speculate he might've killed her or something

but she's been accusing him of being emotionally/mentally abusive to her
she's actually a double Leo. He was a capricorn rising, pisces sun, sag moon. aries venus, pisces mars jupiter aries.

but she may have some virgo. I have to re-look at her chart. or she's a cusper near the virgo sun.



yeah it's too suspicious. that all of a sudden he gets out of prison, he was the last to see her as an adult, and had complaints of him abusing her and then she commits suicide??
yeah i think her bday makes her more of a virgo-leo cusper
23 august

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krisztina_R% C3% A1dy



you're right...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_(astrology)



23 is the last day. that's cusp.


they both have fire in them

but why they get so depressing
she left a suicide note too.



it was stated that he left her for marie, separation. which is why no divorce at that time, but processing.

also with marie she left her husband.

it's weird he is SO violent with marie... to the point of killing her.

but with his ex wife?? he didnt physically abuse her. only mentally abuse her /gas lighting which is gross too.



"She had spoken out in defence of her ex-husband during his trial in Lithuania, saying he had never been violent with her during their marriage."

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/french-rock-star-bertrand-cantat-questioned-after-ex-wife-kristina-radys-suicide/news-story/6c5e137e466df4b23909d2d547533a4b

both were probably obsessed with eachother. eww. he looks too creepy to me.

hydroah likes the ex wife's looks more sooo now i understand where he coming from...

cause that bertrand looks like a creepy guy. and scary fucker!!




pisces gaslights much like libra

see, thing is they know how to bury stuff in the virgo mind

i know this in my own relationship

the mind is the battlefield much more than the body

guilt is a weapon they often use

honestly it hurts me a lot sometimes

coz it's a way of twisting my intentions
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did your ex libra gaslight you?

i never had that problem with my ex pisces husband. he never gas lit me at all. he hated his mother because she was always bitter and nagged alot. I did her chart... her ex scorpio left her for another woman...and she was a leo with virgo and cancer placements. -_- jesus....the astrology. the woman he ended up with had cancer and gemini placements.. he was a scorpio with aries, gemini and virgo placements.

but there's a happy ending for her, she remarried a good man and stayed married to him for decades i heard. However, for some reason she was still bitter over the scorpio. maybe it is what is happeneing here, with bertrand and Rady, she is bitter that he doesn't love her. that's gotta suck major.

it's the unrequited thing going on.

as for my ex, he was just avoidant of his problems and drank and did heroin cocaine his problems away... it's like he just wanted to have a death wish.
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@sierra, they dont have kristina rady's chart on astrotheme though.

she wasn't famous like Bertrand or Marie (singer of a band and her an actress from childhood)



but wow, she has a virgo stellium!!! she's a triple leo, Sun, moon, Mars leo. 5 planets in virgo, sierra. that's ALOT of virgo.

did any of you read the french site?

http://www.theme-astrologie.com/fr/blog/55/bertrand-cantat-oscar-pistorius






that's sad asf

i know a virgo chick who poisoned herself who was also with a pisces

sometimes it gets really destructive from what i've noticed
from my understanding

it seemed like she loved him more than he loved her. which sucks and happens alot in marriages.

it's unbalanced.

she stood by him for years and it seemed they had a row, (they probably keep in touch due to the children) cause their children still not adult (one is 7years old the other 12)

and i bet she killed herself cause she couldnt take it anymore ...his abuse.

if only she had a support, that she doesn't need that fucker. and just walk away. (i've seen it alot in this forum where the woman loves the man more) that man is crazy and insane. he should have left her alone.

but did you read about his cranial trauma when he was 16 years old? it's on wikipedia.
they've very hurtful sometimes

but virgo won't leave you just coz you have mental issues

that cranial trauma probably affected him even more
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it might be because pisces has other placements that make him gaslight.

i honestly never experienced gaslighting from my ex. he never put me down or anything.

infact he was always crying and sobbing he couldnt make the cut. he was always so ambitious but he always wanted more money. HIs parents are wealthy. but he spends his money like Tori Spelling...

can drop 30k in a few months. instead of letting it stretch for years, when he had NO bills.

its like he was jsut greedy for stuff and couldnt land on the ground...
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i think his ex wife was a virgo who committed suicide at their home while he was in there

their kids found her.. hanged herself i think

some speculate he might've killed her or something

but she's been accusing him of being emotionally/mentally abusive to her
she's actually a double Leo. He was a capricorn rising, pisces sun, sag moon. aries venus, pisces mars jupiter aries.

but she may have some virgo. I have to re-look at her chart. or she's a cusper near the virgo sun.



yeah it's too suspicious. that all of a sudden he gets out of prison, he was the last to see her as an adult, and had complaints of him abusing her and then she commits suicide??
yeah i think her bday makes her more of a virgo-leo cusper
23 august

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krisztina_R% C3% A1dy



you're right...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_(astrology)



23 is the last day. that's cusp.


they both have fire in them

but why they get so depressing
she left a suicide note too.



it was stated that he left her for marie, separation. which is why no divorce at that time, but processing.

also with marie she left her husband.

it's weird he is SO violent with marie... to the point of killing her.

but with his ex wife?? he didnt physically abuse her. only mentally abuse her /gas lighting which is gross too.



"She had spoken out in defence of her ex-husband during his trial in Lithuania, saying he had never been violent with her during their marriage."

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/french-rock-star-bertrand-cantat-questioned-after-ex-wife-kristina-radys-suicide/news-story/6c5e137e466df4b23909d2d547533a4b

both were probably obsessed with eachother. eww. he looks too creepy to me.

hydroah likes the ex wife's looks more sooo now i understand where he coming from...

cause that bertrand looks like a creepy guy. and scary fucker!!




pisces gaslights much like libra

see, thing is they know how to bury stuff in the virgo mind

i know this in my own relationship

the mind is the battlefield much more than the body

guilt is a weapon they often use

honestly it hurts me a lot sometimes

coz it's a way of twisting my intentions
did your ex libra gaslight you?

i never had that problem with my ex pisces husband. he never gas lit me at all. he hated his mother because she was always bitter and nagged alot. I did her chart... her ex scorpio left her for another woman...and she was a leo with virgo and cancer placements. -_- jesus....the astrology. the woman he ended up with had cancer and gemini placements.. he was a scorpio with aries, gemini and virgo placements.

but there's a happy ending for her, she remarried a good man and stayed married to him for decades i heard. However, for some reason she was still bitter over the scorpio. maybe it is what is happeneing here, with bertrand and Rady, she is bitter that he doesn't love her. that's gotta suck major.

it's the unrequited thing going on.

as for my ex, he was just avoidant of his problems and drank and did heroin cocaine his problems away... it's like he just wanted to have a death wish.
he definitely did

the pisces sometimes guilt trips me but doesn't make feel nor look crazy (the libra would've)

we drink sometimes but stay away from anything else

hmm as for rady.. she's got a lot of virgo.. i think that yeah that feeling that she's been left behind and also the mental toll on her.. that probably drove her to suicide
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that is sad :/

because she has children underage. they need her.



i find that peeps who constantly gaslight... seem narcissitic.

https://beyondbetrayal.community/why-people-gaslight/

Unintentional Gaslighting

For example, recently I gaslighted my son. I was in the kitchen preparing a salad for dinner when my teenager walked into the room, scowled in the direction of the vegetable-topped lettuce I was tossing, and said, “Ugh. I hate salad.” I retorted in a playful voice, “It’ll be okay, kiddo. This salad will be yummy. You love salad, remember?”

My son looked at me skeptically and walked out of the room. I realized then I had stated something that simply wasn’t true. My son doesn’t find vegetables tasty nor does he like salad. In my attempt to help my son have light-heartedness about the salad, and to convince him to eat the salad, my words actually disputed his reality. I stated an opposing version of reality as truth. I didn’t purposely intend to confuse or harm him, but I did create some confusion by gaslighting him.

Semi-Intentional Gaslighting

Sometimes gaslighting is done with a degree of intentionality and awareness, but without a full understanding of the impact it has on the recipient. A person might recognize if they say certain things, another person may have an expected response.

For example, in my early adulthood, when I felt sad, rather than accepting comfort, I pushed people away so I could be alone with my pain. On occasion my husband would see me cry and ask, “What’s wrong?” I would answer, “Nothing. I’m fine.” I knew that if I told him I was okay, he would stop inquiring. Even though he could see my tears, my words conveyed an alternate reality as truth. My husband would look puzzled, yet he would typically leave the room, thus doing the very thing I hoped for. I didn’t realize I was gaslighting him. I only knew if I said I was fine, he would go away. My gaslighting created confusion in my partner and caused him to back up. This is a common reason people gaslight — to create distance between themselves and another.

Intentional Gaslighting

Unfortunately, gaslighting may be intentional and malicious. This is the most detrimental and abusive of the three kinds of gaslighting.

In working with partners of sex addicts, I sometimes hear stories of purposeful and malevolent gaslighting. In one such example, an addict went on a business trip. He withdrew cash from the ATM, turned off his cell phone locater, and stopped answering his wife’s texts or calls for the afternoon. When he called his wife several hours later, she demanded he tell her why he withdrew cash and what he had been doing while unreachable.

He responded, “I needed cash to pay for taxi rides and to give as tips. I was unreachable because it’s hard to get cell service downtown. That’s probably why my cell phone locater didn’t work. You know cell phones don’t work perfectly 100% of the time. I’m surprised you are getting so worked up. You really have high anxiety. You should probably see someone to help you with that problem. And you are so paranoid. It really is a turn off. I can’t believe you would pick a fight while I’m on a business trip. I’m disgusted with you, and now I don’t want to talk to you for the rest of the day.” She barely heard him hang up the phone as she stammered, “I’m so sorry! I wasn’t trying to pick a fight!”

In this example, the gaslighter diverted his wife’s attention away from his behavior by giving excuses that were unlikely, yet not completely implausible. She doubted herself, and this created enough confusion in the wife that when he criticized her and told her she needed to seek treatment, she wondered if that were true as well. He then used contempt and rejection. In this confused state, the wife felt desperate as she not only didn’t want to be abandoned, but she wanted him to see her clearly and not push her away. She called him back to beg for him to talk with her, putting to the side the gnawing feeling he had betrayed her and instead focusing on her apologies to him."







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i think his ex wife was a virgo who committed suicide at their home while he was in there

their kids found her.. hanged herself i think

some speculate he might've killed her or something

but she's been accusing him of being emotionally/mentally abusive to her
she's actually a double Leo. He was a capricorn rising, pisces sun, sag moon. aries venus, pisces mars jupiter aries.

but she may have some virgo. I have to re-look at her chart. or she's a cusper near the virgo sun.



yeah it's too suspicious. that all of a sudden he gets out of prison, he was the last to see her as an adult, and had complaints of him abusing her and then she commits suicide??
yeah i think her bday makes her more of a virgo-leo cusper
23 august

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krisztina_R% C3% A1dy



you're right...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_(astrology)



23 is the last day. that's cusp.


they both have fire in them

but why they get so depressing
she left a suicide note too.



it was stated that he left her for marie, separation. which is why no divorce at that time, but processing.

also with marie she left her husband.

it's weird he is SO violent with marie... to the point of killing her.

but with his ex wife?? he didnt physically abuse her. only mentally abuse her /gas lighting which is gross too.



"She had spoken out in defence of her ex-husband during his trial in Lithuania, saying he had never been violent with her during their marriage."

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/french-rock-star-bertrand-cantat-questioned-after-ex-wife-kristina-radys-suicide/news-story/6c5e137e466df4b23909d2d547533a4b

both were probably obsessed with eachother. eww. he looks too creepy to me.

hydroah likes the ex wife's looks more sooo now i understand where he coming from...

cause that bertrand looks like a creepy guy. and scary fucker!!




pisces gaslights much like libra

see, thing is they know how to bury stuff in the virgo mind

i know this in my own relationship

the mind is the battlefield much more than the body

guilt is a weapon they often use

honestly it hurts me a lot sometimes

coz it's a way of twisting my intentions
did your ex libra gaslight you?

i never had that problem with my ex pisces husband. he never gas lit me at all. he hated his mother because she was always bitter and nagged alot. I did her chart... her ex scorpio left her for another woman...and she was a leo with virgo and cancer placements. -_- jesus....the astrology. the woman he ended up with had cancer and gemini placements.. he was a scorpio with aries, gemini and virgo placements.

but there's a happy ending for her, she remarried a good man and stayed married to him for decades i heard. However, for some reason she was still bitter over the scorpio. maybe it is what is happeneing here, with bertrand and Rady, she is bitter that he doesn't love her. that's gotta suck major.

it's the unrequited thing going on.

as for my ex, he was just avoidant of his problems and drank and did heroin cocaine his problems away... it's like he just wanted to have a death wish.
he definitely did

the pisces sometimes guilt trips me but doesn't make me feel nor look crazy (the libra would've)

we drink sometimes but stay away from anything else

hmm as for rady.. she's got a lot of virgo.. i think that yeah that feeling that she's been left behind and also the mental toll on her.. that probably drove her to suicide
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i dont know why she never remarried after bernard left her and went to prison.

she could have rebuilt her life.

she had that possibility. the man didnt love her, and obviously didnt care if she committed suicide.

she poured way too much energy into a man who didnt want her. it really is a big waste.
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i think his ex wife was a virgo who committed suicide at their home while he was in there

their kids found her.. hanged herself i think

some speculate he might've killed her or something

but she's been accusing him of being emotionally/mentally abusive to her
she's actually a double Leo. He was a capricorn rising, pisces sun, sag moon. aries venus, pisces mars jupiter aries.

but she may have some virgo. I have to re-look at her chart. or she's a cusper near the virgo sun.



yeah it's too suspicious. that all of a sudden he gets out of prison, he was the last to see her as an adult, and had complaints of him abusing her and then she commits suicide??
yeah i think her bday makes her more of a virgo-leo cusper
23 august

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krisztina_R% C3% A1dy



you're right...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_(astrology)



23 is the last day. that's cusp.


they both have fire in them

but why they get so depressing
she left a suicide note too.



it was stated that he left her for marie, separation. which is why no divorce at that time, but processing.

also with marie she left her husband.

it's weird he is SO violent with marie... to the point of killing her.

but with his ex wife?? he didnt physically abuse her. only mentally abuse her /gas lighting which is gross too.



"She had spoken out in defence of her ex-husband during his trial in Lithuania, saying he had never been violent with her during their marriage."

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/french-rock-star-bertrand-cantat-questioned-after-ex-wife-kristina-radys-suicide/news-story/6c5e137e466df4b23909d2d547533a4b

both were probably obsessed with eachother. eww. he looks too creepy to me.

hydroah likes the ex wife's looks more sooo now i understand where he coming from...

cause that bertrand looks like a creepy guy. and scary fucker!!




pisces gaslights much like libra

see, thing is they know how to bury stuff in the virgo mind

i know this in my own relationship

the mind is the battlefield much more than the body

guilt is a weapon they often use

honestly it hurts me a lot sometimes

coz it's a way of twisting my intentions
did your ex libra gaslight you?

i never had that problem with my ex pisces husband. he never gas lit me at all. he hated his mother because she was always bitter and nagged alot. I did her chart... her ex scorpio left her for another woman...and she was a leo with virgo and cancer placements. -_- jesus....the astrology. the woman he ended up with had cancer and gemini placements.. he was a scorpio with aries, gemini and virgo placements.

but there's a happy ending for her, she remarried a good man and stayed married to him for decades i heard. However, for some reason she was still bitter over the scorpio. maybe it is what is happeneing here, with bertrand and Rady, she is bitter that he doesn't love her. that's gotta suck major.

it's the unrequited thing going on.

as for my ex, he was just avoidant of his problems and drank and did heroin cocaine his problems away... it's like he just wanted to have a death wish.
he definitely did

the pisces sometimes guilt trips me but doesn't make feel nor look crazy (the libra would've)

we drink sometimes but stay away from anything else

hmm as for rady.. she's got a lot of virgo.. i think that yeah that feeling that she's been left behind and also the mental toll on her.. that probably drove her to suicide
that is sad :/

because she has children underage. they need her.



i find that peeps who constantly gaslight... seem narcissitic.

https://beyondbetrayal.community/why-people-gaslight/

Unintentional Gaslighting

For example, recently I gaslighted my son. I was in the kitchen preparing a salad for dinner when my teenager walked into the room, scowled in the direction of the vegetable-topped lettuce I was tossing, and said, “Ugh. I hate salad.” I retorted in a playful voice, “It’ll be okay, kiddo. This salad will be yummy. You love salad, remember?”

My son looked at me skeptically and walked out of the room. I realized then I had stated something that simply wasn’t true. My son doesn’t find vegetables tasty nor does he like salad. In my attempt to help my son have light-heartedness about the salad, and to convince him to eat the salad, my words actually disputed his reality. I stated an opposing version of reality as truth. I didn’t purposely intend to confuse or harm him, but I did create some confusion by gaslighting him.

Semi-Intentional Gaslighting

Sometimes gaslighting is done with a degree of intentionality and awareness, but without a full understanding of the impact it has on the recipient. A person might recognize if they say certain things, another person may have an expected response.

For example, in my early adulthood, when I felt sad, rather than accepting comfort, I pushed people away so I could be alone with my pain. On occasion my husband would see me cry and ask, “What’s wrong?” I would answer, “Nothing. I’m fine.” I knew that if I told him I was okay, he would stop inquiring. Even though he could see my tears, my words conveyed an alternate reality as truth. My husband would look puzzled, yet he would typically leave the room, thus doing the very thing I hoped for. I didn’t realize I was gaslighting him. I only knew if I said I was fine, he would go away. My gaslighting created confusion in my partner and caused him to back up. This is a common reason people gaslight — to create distance between themselves and another.

Intentional Gaslighting

Unfortunately, gaslighting may be intentional and malicious. This is the most detrimental and abusive of the three kinds of gaslighting.

In working with partners of sex addicts, I sometimes hear stories of purposeful and malevolent gaslighting. In one such example, an addict went on a business trip. He withdrew cash from the ATM, turned off his cell phone locater, and stopped answering his wife’s texts or calls for the afternoon. When he called his wife several hours later, she demanded he tell her why he withdrew cash and what he had been doing while unreachable.

He responded, “I needed cash to pay for taxi rides and to give as tips. I was unreachable because it’s hard to get cell service downtown. That’s probably why my cell phone locater didn’t work. You know cell phones don’t work perfectly 100% of the time. I’m surprised you are getting so worked up. You really have high anxiety. You should probably see someone to help you with that problem. And you are so paranoid. It really is a turn off. I can’t believe you would pick a fight while I’m on a business trip. I’m disgusted with you, and now I don’t want to talk to you for the rest of the day.” She barely heard him hang up the phone as she stammered, “I’m so sorry! I wasn’t trying to pick a fight!”

In this example, the gaslighter diverted his wife’s attention away from his behavior by giving excuses that were unlikely, yet not completely implausible. She doubted herself, and this created enough confusion in the wife that when he criticized her and told her she needed to seek treatment, she wondered if that were true as well. He then used contempt and rejection. In this confused state, the wife felt desperate as she not only didn’t want to be abandoned, but she wanted him to see her clearly and not push her away. She called him back to beg for him to talk with her, putting to the side the gnawing feeling he had betrayed her and instead focusing on her apologies to him."








absolutely terrible

one time my bf was busy guilt tripping me

i got so hurt that i decided

you know what? i don't have to stay still and listen to this

i walked away and he's the one hurt now

sometimes i just can't deal with it
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good for you.

i'm more confrontational. if i hear my husband say something negative even as a joke, i just tell him dont try that on me.

for example, i have a library card and i buy one every year. i did some volunteer work there too before,

and then, i told my husband, when our printer doesn't have any ink, go to the library, and i give him my card cause i have money in there for printing and computer privileges. He said, why do you need computer there at the library when you have it at home?

i know where his mind goes. he is jealous. lol i said, wtf. dude. i dont use the computer there unless i need to print something. like if our printer has no ink. or possible broken printer.

well i should have joked back and said, i'm meeting Andre at the library and also using the internet there to web cam the guy i'm seeing on the side.

he would be soooooo jealous and pissed but he'd know i'm joking. i'm the same way though.

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i think his ex wife was a virgo who committed suicide at their home while he was in there

their kids found her.. hanged herself i think

some speculate he might've killed her or something

but she's been accusing him of being emotionally/mentally abusive to her
she's actually a double Leo. He was a capricorn rising, pisces sun, sag moon. aries venus, pisces mars jupiter aries.

but she may have some virgo. I have to re-look at her chart. or she's a cusper near the virgo sun.



yeah it's too suspicious. that all of a sudden he gets out of prison, he was the last to see her as an adult, and had complaints of him abusing her and then she commits suicide??
yeah i think her bday makes her more of a virgo-leo cusper
23 august

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krisztina_R% C3% A1dy



you're right...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_(astrology)



23 is the last day. that's cusp.


they both have fire in them

but why they get so depressing
she left a suicide note too.



it was stated that he left her for marie, separation. which is why no divorce at that time, but processing.

also with marie she left her husband.

it's weird he is SO violent with marie... to the point of killing her.

but with his ex wife?? he didnt physically abuse her. only mentally abuse her /gas lighting which is gross too.



"She had spoken out in defence of her ex-husband during his trial in Lithuania, saying he had never been violent with her during their marriage."

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/french-rock-star-bertrand-cantat-questioned-after-ex-wife-kristina-radys-suicide/news-story/6c5e137e466df4b23909d2d547533a4b

both were probably obsessed with eachother. eww. he looks too creepy to me.

hydroah likes the ex wife's looks more sooo now i understand where he coming from...

cause that bertrand looks like a creepy guy. and scary fucker!!




pisces gaslights much like libra

see, thing is they know how to bury stuff in the virgo mind

i know this in my own relationship

the mind is the battlefield much more than the body

guilt is a weapon they often use

honestly it hurts me a lot sometimes

coz it's a way of twisting my intentions
did your ex libra gaslight you?

i never had that problem with my ex pisces husband. he never gas lit me at all. he hated his mother because she was always bitter and nagged alot. I did her chart... her ex scorpio left her for another woman...and she was a leo with virgo and cancer placements. -_- jesus....the astrology. the woman he ended up with had cancer and gemini placements.. he was a scorpio with aries, gemini and virgo placements.

but there's a happy ending for her, she remarried a good man and stayed married to him for decades i heard. However, for some reason she was still bitter over the scorpio. maybe it is what is happeneing here, with bertrand and Rady, she is bitter that he doesn't love her. that's gotta suck major.

it's the unrequited thing going on.

as for my ex, he was just avoidant of his problems and drank and did heroin cocaine his problems away... it's like he just wanted to have a death wish.
he definitely did

the pisces sometimes guilt trips me but doesn't make me feel nor look crazy (the libra would've)

we drink sometimes but stay away from anything else

hmm as for rady.. she's got a lot of virgo.. i think that yeah that feeling that she's been left behind and also the mental toll on her.. that probably drove her to suicide
i dont know why she never remarried after bernard left her and went to prison.

she could have rebuilt her life.

she had that possibility. the man didnt love her, and obviously didnt care if she committed suicide.

she poured way too much energy into a man who didnt want her. it really is a big waste.
sometimes it's just really hard to connect with someone else

when you've grown so attached to a certain person
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yeah i get you...it is.



it's truly tragic. 😢
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men with jealousies are soooo terrible though. but at the same time i'm so happy he is jealous ...it makes me feel wanted and needed.

i get soooo jealous too, when i see my man on the phone and he's with his co-workers, and sometimes, he'd hide it from me deliberately and i said, wtf? are you trying to get me pissed off?

he laughs and says...you are sooo cute angry!! lol 😆

i hate that!!

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@sierra...

there's clarification on the french wikipedia,

that the parents claimed bertrand physically abused her kady too.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krisztina_R% C3% A1dy

also in two french authors had a declaration in their book about his violence.

https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/bertrand-cantat-marie-trintignant-l-amour-a-mort-1

you can buy the book.

i dont think it's on amazon though. maybe french amazon and you'd need to get translation.