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Ok, I will spill out some secrets about us right here.

Your fellow Scorpio sister Teena, and my absolute bestie was very surprised that we have a hard time moving on. We may pretend moving on is not a big deal for us, but... I Don't know your age, but if you re at least over 25, be aware he already met his idol.



It took me 8 stupid years to forget Leo. Taurus was in transition and I would yell at his face, "you are not Leo to tell me this! Leo is the best, got it? No? Then you are stupid!" For right now Scorpio did beat Leo, and it's the same thing, scorp is the best. Probably all this forum knows about it. Scorpio!!!!

Same thing is going on with my Aries guy friends. The one that I already mentioned is forever single because, "she is not you, so I will make her suffer!"

The other Aries guy can't get over my ex aqua bestie. He lives with a Leo, proposed to her, then took the ring away, because aqua is better!!! Here I am with a punch!!! Because Leo is such a beautiful, positive girl. And aqua, she stole from me, ruined my dress because of jealousy, back stabs like crazy. No, aqua is the best for him.

Probably this is one of the features that makes us a bad sign.



There were times I thought Aries is the best sign. But there is something very weird about us. Probably internal anger and strength. We usually Don't attack first. I was always one of the shortest, weakest girls in the class. Shy and quite. My Virgo guy classmate decided to use it once. He took my chair to stand on it. My backpack was on the chair, so he just threw it on the floor and stood up on the chair. Because he thought I'm the quitest girl in the class. Well I threw him off that chair like crazy, was kicking him like crazy, three guys had to hold me back. He cried. That's all Aries. Internal anger and strength.



For right now as I say I did get involved in physical fights with guys, people Don't even believe me. They see me as as the most feminine and sweet thing ever. Something is weird about us.





Well, he spoke of his love life and past relationships with me. In fact, he spoke of it the very first time in which we met. Though he shared in depth later on. Every relationship of his was spoken of, no details were spared. His last relationship was over six years ago. His SO cheated on him, for quite some time, together with his childhood best friend. He lost both her, and his friend. It caused him enough pain, to leave and move abroad. Since then he have never had a relationship. I asked him if he will ever take her back, he said no because he could never forgive her or him for what they did. The memory of what they caused, that scar will remain. Yes, his ex SO and former friend are still together after all these years. No, I think he is ready to move on and I do not feel he compares me to his ex SO. He seems more worried about his career, goals, and finances more so than that. click to expand





Is he bisexual ? You mentioned him and her... we always worry about goals and finances. click to expand
No, he is straight.



His ex SO, is a woman. His best friend since childhood, is a man. His ex SO (a female), cheated on him by starting a relationship with his best friend (a male), for months in secret. Before, he found out, and she spilled. click to expand



Ewww yikes ((( poor Aries( click to expand
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Yes, and they are still together after all these years as well. He said she still writes him occasionally that she loves him. He told me he refuses to be apart of it, that she cannot have him and the other man as well. That it used to drive him beyond rage, and he does not wish to hurt anyone so he moved abroad. So he said he will never go back, and will always stay away from them, moving on. It really impacted him.
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Update:

Wrote him to see how he was doing, if he felt better. Told him, I have something to drop off. He asked what it was, if it was a gift again (previously I gave a small gift as thanks, it was inexpensive and more thoughtful) and I told him it was chicken soup. He rejected it, and said he does not like soup but thanked me. In which I replied that actually it was not just soup, but other things too. I just wanted him to feel better and I can not ever be nice, can I?

He figured I was angry, which I was and still am. He immediately wrote back to say that I am nice, that I really am. Of course, he wrote affectionately and all. Nonetheless, I told him that since he does not want the soup it must mean he does not want any of the kind gesture and told him I will have the soup myself. No response so far.
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He told me he is not looking for anything serious at the moment (though his actions said otherwise, are we not supposed to look at actions instead of words ?). That he really liked me, and that he thought I was great. We could be friends, and see each other from time to time.

He was the one that was public, territorial, sensitive, and offended when I was casual before. As soon as I show a little investment. He responds with this.

Why ?
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He told me he is not looking for anything serious at the moment (though his actions said otherwise, are we not supposed to look at actions instead of words ?). That he really liked me, and that he thought I was great. We could be friends, and see each other from time to time.



He was the one that was public, territorial, sensitive, and offended when I was casual before. As soon as I show a little investment. He responds with this.



Why ?
Friends with benefits ?
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He told me he is not looking for anything serious at the moment (though his actions said otherwise, are we not supposed to look at actions instead of words ?). That he really liked me, and that he thought I was great. We could be friends, and see each other from time to time.



He was the one that was public, territorial, sensitive, and offended when I was casual before. As soon as I show a little investment. He responds with this.



Why ?



Friends with benefits ? click to expand
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Apparently not that either @MyStarsShine, I would have been fine with that too because I would simply demote him in my life to that level. However, he cannot accept the fact that I am accepting of his honesty and the situation. He told me he does not want to be serious. When someone tells me that, I will take them for their word.

He is now refusing to let up, and tells me he likes me a lot, he thinks I am great etc. Which is nice, but I am not hurt once everything is clear. I am in no uncertain stance, asking him out right if that friendship includes sex or not. I prefer to be clear.
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Further Update:



He told me he is not looking for anything serious at the moment (though his actions said otherwise, are we not supposed to look at actions instead of words ?). That he really liked me, and that he thought I was great. We could be friends, and see each other from time to time.



He was the one that was public, territorial, sensitive, and offended when I was casual before. As soon as I show a little investment. He responds with this.



Why ?
Friends with benefits ? click to expand



Apparently not that either @MyStarsShine, I would have been fine with that too because I would simply demote him in my life to that level. However, he cannot accept the fact that I am accepting of his honesty and the situation. He told me he does not want to be serious. When someone tells me that, I will take them for their word.



He is now refusing to let up, and tells me he likes me a lot, he thinks I am great etc. Which is nice, but I am not hurt once everything is clear. I am in no uncertain stance, asking him out right if that friendship includes sex or not. I prefer to be clear. click to expand
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He sounds confusing .....
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What @Ram416 said.

Why did you asked for Words ?!...This is Aries it doesn't work at all when it's too soon...and you said it yourself that we are about Actions.

What did i said about not asking this type of things to an Aries ?...When a woman asks me for Words and i am not ready...it's imediate what comes in my mind..."Disengage !!!" lol

How everything wold have been diferent if you actualy showed up and\or called him a piece of shit for not taking your soup and what you bought...he wold've eat that soup untill the end lol

When it comes to Words you will have to wait for him to tell you the Words first and never ask for it...spontaneous ?!...the moment you ask...oh well, you will have a bad time.

This is the heaviest masculine energy on the zodiac, he needs to think that he is doing things...because he wants to lol doesn't mean you can't fool him to thinking he is still in *charge* when you are the one rolling up all the dices ^^

But then you asked for the status of rship and he backed off...you know how long it takes for me to realise that i am actualy dating or realy like someone ?...once it took years...lol and it was me that asked..."are we dating ?"...lol

It depends on so many things, the stage of the rship, the bond, or even if he believes you are the right woman for him or still debating on it.

But it takes time and aloooottttt of patience...i mean alot...we are not easy at all, very arrogant, cocky and incredibly selfish sometimes.

You know what you have to do now, right ?...completly ignore him lol

He will get back to you and over it, you will see. ^^
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He told me he is not looking for anything serious at the moment (though his actions said otherwise, are we not supposed to look at actions instead of words ?). That he really liked me, and that he thought I was great. We could be friends, and see each other from time to time.



He was the one that was public, territorial, sensitive, and offended when I was casual before. As soon as I show a little investment. He responds with this.



Why ?





Friends with benefits ? click to expand
Apparently not that either @MyStarsShine, I would have been fine with that too because I would simply demote him in my life to that level. However, he cannot accept the fact that I am accepting of his honesty and the situation. He told me he does not want to be serious. When someone tells me that, I will take them for their word.



He is now refusing to let up, and tells me he likes me a lot, he thinks I am great etc. Which is nice, but I am not hurt once everything is clear. I am in no uncertain stance, asking him out right if that friendship includes sex or not. I prefer to be clear. click to expand



He sounds confusing ..... click to expand
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I do not believe in deluding myself. If a man tells me he does not want to be serious, I will believe him, even despite his actions, and him being strange.

He needs to be clear with me, now he keeps going in circles. I need to know if this is a friendship with benefits, cause if I do not get the sex. I will look elsewhere for it.
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What @Ram416 said.



Why did you asked for Words ?!...This is Aries it doesn't work at all when it's too soon...and you said it yourself that we are about Actions.



What did i said about not asking this type of things to an Aries ?...When a woman asks me for Words and i am not ready...it's imediate what comes in my mind..."Disengage !!!" lol



How everything wold have been diferent if you actualy showed up and\or called him a piece of shit for not taking your soup and what you bought...he wold've eat that soup untill the end lol



When it comes to Words you will have to wait for him to tell you the Words first and never ask for it...spontaneous ?!...the moment you ask...oh well, you will have a bad time.



This is the heaviest masculine energy on the zodiac, he needs to think that he is doing things...because he wants to lol doesn't mean you can't fool him to thinking he is still in *charge* when you are the one rolling up all the dices ^^



But then you asked for the status of rship and he backed off...you know how long it takes for me to realise that i am actualy dating or realy like someone ?...once it took years...lol and it was me that asked..."are we dating ?"...lol



It depends on so many things, the stage of the rship, the bond, or even if he believes you are the right woman for him or still debating on it.



But it takes time and aloooottttt of patience...i mean alot...we are not easy at all, very arrogant, cocky and incredibly selfish sometimes.



You know what you have to do now, right ?...completly ignore him lol



He will get back to you and over it, you will see. ^^
@IamTheRam, I did not ask for words. I took action, and made soup without telling him. However, I do not know his full schedule and will not wait for him for hours at his doorstep, to give it to him. I have things to do.

I never asked about the status of the 'relationship', in fact I never mentioned it. He took it upon himself to talk about it, he wrote me telling he did not want anything serious. His told me those words, I never pushed or asked him. Then he wanted to be friends, and see each other from time to time. He kept asking if I would want the same too. I was accepting of his words, and believed him.

But now he will not let go, and keep telling me I am great, that he thinks I am incredible, he likes me a lot etc. I am not hurt, even told him this. Except, I need to know if that friendship he wants, does it include sex or not. He needs to be clear. If not, I will look elsewhere for sex.

I am fine with demoting him to a friend but why can he not tell me if that friendship, includes sex or not ?

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What @Ram416 said.



Why did you asked for Words ?!...This is Aries it doesn't work at all when it's too soon...and you said it yourself that we are about Actions.



What did i said about not asking this type of things to an Aries ?...When a woman asks me for Words and i am not ready...it's imediate what comes in my mind..."Disengage !!!" lol



How everything wold have been diferent if you actualy showed up and\or called him a piece of shit for not taking your soup and what you bought...he wold've eat that soup untill the end lol



When it comes to Words you will have to wait for him to tell you the Words first and never ask for it...spontaneous ?!...the moment you ask...oh well, you will have a bad time.



This is the heaviest masculine energy on the zodiac, he needs to think that he is doing things...because he wants to lol doesn't mean you can't fool him to thinking he is still in *charge* when you are the one rolling up all the dices ^^



But then you asked for the status of rship and he backed off...you know how long it takes for me to realise that i am actualy dating or realy like someone ?...once it took years...lol and it was me that asked..."are we dating ?"...lol



It depends on so many things, the stage of the rship, the bond, or even if he believes you are the right woman for him or still debating on it.



But it takes time and aloooottttt of patience...i mean alot...we are not easy at all, very arrogant, cocky and incredibly selfish sometimes.



You know what you have to do now, right ?...completly ignore him lol



He will get back to you and over it, you will see. ^^



@IamTheRam, I did not ask for words. I took action, and made soup without telling him. However, I do not know his full schedule and will not wait for him for hours at his doorstep, to give it to him. I have things to do.



I never asked about the status of the 'relationship', in fact I never mentioned it. He took it upon himself to talk about it, he wrote me telling he did not want anything serious. His told me those words, I never pushed or asked him. Then he wanted to be friends, and see each other from time to time. He kept asking if I would want the same too. I was accepting of his words, and believed him.



But now he will not let go, and keep telling me I am great, that he thinks I am incredible, he likes me a lot etc. I am not hurt, even told him this. Except, I need to know if that friendship he wants, does it include sex or not. He needs to be clear. If not, I will look elsewhere for sex.



I am fine with demoting him to a friend but why can he not tell me if that friendship, includes sex or not ?





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Is he still texting you after that serious rship thing ?

And you are right about not waiting at his doorstep.

You did not asked...but that's most likely how he saw all of the thing. What for you it was just a kind gesture, for him he saw it as..."are you trying to *trap* me ?". Hence his reply, and that's the only reason i see for him to reply like that and tbh, that was also how i saw your reply to him.

It doesn't mean at all that this was the reason that you replied to him like that ! I am just trying to tell you what he might have seen in all of that, so you can better understand wtf is going on.

Rship can be such a mess...nobody wants to give in...both are afraid of what might happen...arfff..

I think that you shouldn't ask about anything of the freinds situation, he will most likely be evasive.

As for the sex...if you want more from him, you will have to skip the sex part...that is realy my best advice to you...and that's how you take control of everything.

The most important part now, is actualy you asking yourself what is that you realy want from him.
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What @Ram416 said.



Why did you asked for Words ?!...This is Aries it doesn't work at all when it's too soon...and you said it yourself that we are about Actions.



What did i said about not asking this type of things to an Aries ?...When a woman asks me for Words and i am not ready...it's imediate what comes in my mind..."Disengage !!!" lol



How everything wold have been diferent if you actualy showed up and\or called him a piece of shit for not taking your soup and what you bought...he wold've eat that soup untill the end lol



When it comes to Words you will have to wait for him to tell you the Words first and never ask for it...spontaneous ?!...the moment you ask...oh well, you will have a bad time.



This is the heaviest masculine energy on the zodiac, he needs to think that he is doing things...because he wants to lol doesn't mean you can't fool him to thinking he is still in *charge* when you are the one rolling up all the dices ^^



But then you asked for the status of rship and he backed off...you know how long it takes for me to realise that i am actualy dating or realy like someone ?...once it took years...lol and it was me that asked..."are we dating ?"...lol



It depends on so many things, the stage of the rship, the bond, or even if he believes you are the right woman for him or still debating on it.



But it takes time and aloooottttt of patience...i mean alot...we are not easy at all, very arrogant, cocky and incredibly selfish sometimes.



You know what you have to do now, right ?...completly ignore him lol



He will get back to you and over it, you will see. ^^
@IamTheRam, I did not ask for words. I took action, and made soup without telling him. However, I do not know his full schedule and will not wait for him for hours at his doorstep, to give it to him. I have things to do.



I never asked about the status of the 'relationship', in fact I never mentioned it. He took it upon himself to talk about it, he wrote me telling he did not want anything serious. His told me those words, I never pushed or asked him. Then he wanted to be friends, and see each other from time to time. He kept asking if I would want the same too. I was accepting of his words, and believed him.



But now he will not let go, and keep telling me I am great, that he thinks I am incredible, he likes me a lot etc. I am not hurt, even told him this. Except, I need to know if that friendship he wants, does it include sex or not. He needs to be clear. If not, I will look elsewhere for sex.



I am fine with demoting him to a friend but why can he not tell me if that friendship, includes sex or not ?





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Is he still texting you after that serious rship thing ?



And you are right about not waiting at his doorstep.



You did not asked...but that's most likely how he saw all of the thing. What for you it was just a kind gesture, for him he saw it as..."are you trying to *trap* me ?". Hence his reply, and that's the only reason i see for him to reply like that and tbh, that was also how i saw your reply to him.



It doesn't mean at all that this was the reason that you replied to him like that ! I am just trying to tell you what he might have seen in all of that, so you can better understand wtf is going on.



Rship can be such a mess...nobody wants to give in...both are afraid of what might happen...arfff..



I think that you shouldn't ask about anything of the freinds situation, he will most likely be evasive.



As for the sex...if you want more from him, you will have to skip the sex part...that is realy my best advice to you...and that's how you take control of everything.



The most important part now, is actualy you asking yourself what is that you realy want from him. click to expand
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Most Rams, if not all encouraged me to make him soup, including you. 😐

That I should show I cared, because frankly before I was the casual one. He kept investing, and was rather sensitive / territorial / wanting to be seen publicly with me / trying to make me jealous. I was unsure until recently, because of his actions and investments, that maybe more would be nice. Before, he was the one that pushed whilst I remain at a bit of a distant.

So why are you backtracking now, saying that you also see the soup as my attempt to trap him, that I am doing too much ?

It is kindness, not a trap. I say what I mean, there is not extra agenda.

I am not afraid, I know exactly what I want. My life is good, alone. I have my friends, my life, my work, and my independence. He knows this, he always said I was strong and independent. Though I do want a relationship if there is the possibility for it. I am also fine with a friendship or friends with benefits. However, he needs to tell me which, so I could categorise him. I am not pressuring him for more, I told him this.

I do not think that is too much to ask, it is only adult, to be clear.

Is honesty so hard to believe and accept ?

Yes, he is being evasive still. He will not answer the sex question, if he will not answer in the near future. I will look for sex elsewhere, and leave him be until he chooses to return.

He wants to be my friend, to hang out from time to time, if I like that too. He kept asking if I like that. For bloody hells sake, he needs to be more blunt and tell me exactly what he wants.

Why ask if I would like that ? Why evade such a simple sex question (answer is only yes or no) ? Why would he fear answering ? 😱

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Wrote him to see how he was doing, if he felt better. Told him, I have something to drop off. He asked what it was, if it was a gift again (previously I gave a small gift as thanks, it was inexpensive and more thoughtful) and I told him it was chicken soup. He rejected it, and said he does not like soup but thanked me. In which I replied that actually it was not just soup, but other things too. I just wanted him to feel better and I can not ever be nice, can I?



He figured I was angry, which I was and still am. He immediately wrote back to say that I am nice, that I really am. Of course, he wrote affectionately and all. Nonetheless, I told him that since he does not want the soup it must mean he does not want any of the kind gesture and told him I will have the soup myself. No response so far.
this is very interesting ...I response a very very very similar response ...complaints of I don't need that, or I don't like this soup but since I was literally on his doorstep I was greeted with the

"well your already here now might as well come on in"

*sighs deeply* rams ....
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He told me he is not looking for anything serious at the moment (though his actions said otherwise, are we not supposed to look at actions instead of words ?). That he really liked me, and that he thought I was great. We could be friends, and see each other from time to time.



He was the one that was public, territorial, sensitive, and offended when I was casual before. As soon as I show a little investment. He responds with this.



Why ?





Friends with benefits ? click to expand





Apparently not that either @MyStarsShine, I would have been fine with that too because I would simply demote him in my life to that level. However, he cannot accept the fact that I am accepting of his honesty and the situation. He told me he does not want to be serious. When someone tells me that, I will take them for their word.



He is now refusing to let up, and tells me he likes me a lot, he thinks I am great etc. Which is nice, but I am not hurt once everything is clear. I am in no uncertain stance, asking him out right if that friendship includes sex or not. I prefer to be clear. click to expand
He sounds confusing ..... click to expand



I do not believe in deluding myself. If a man tells me he does not want to be serious, I will believe him, even despite his actions, and him being strange.



He needs to be clear with me, now he keeps going in circles. I need to know if this is a friendship with benefits, cause if I do not get the sex. I will look elsewhere for it. click to expand
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Sounds like he has a lot of baggage, and somewhat cowardly
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What @Ram416 said.



Why did you asked for Words ?!...This is Aries it doesn't work at all when it's too soon...and you said it yourself that we are about Actions.



What did i said about not asking this type of things to an Aries ?...When a woman asks me for Words and i am not ready...it's imediate what comes in my mind..."Disengage !!!" lol



How everything wold have been diferent if you actualy showed up and\or called him a piece of shit for not taking your soup and what you bought...he wold've eat that soup untill the end lol



When it comes to Words you will have to wait for him to tell you the Words first and never ask for it...spontaneous ?!...the moment you ask...oh well, you will have a bad time.



This is the heaviest masculine energy on the zodiac, he needs to think that he is doing things...because he wants to lol doesn't mean you can't fool him to thinking he is still in *charge* when you are the one rolling up all the dices ^^



But then you asked for the status of rship and he backed off...you know how long it takes for me to realise that i am actualy dating or realy like someone ?...once it took years...lol and it was me that asked..."are we dating ?"...lol



It depends on so many things, the stage of the rship, the bond, or even if he believes you are the right woman for him or still debating on it.



But it takes time and aloooottttt of patience...i mean alot...we are not easy at all, very arrogant, cocky and incredibly selfish sometimes.



You know what you have to do now, right ?...completly ignore him lol



He will get back to you and over it, you will see. ^^





@IamTheRam, I did not ask for words. I took action, and made soup without telling him. However, I do not know his full schedule and will not wait for him for hours at his doorstep, to give it to him. I have things to do.



I never asked about the status of the 'relationship', in fact I never mentioned it. He took it upon himself to talk about it, he wrote me telling he did not want anything serious. His told me those words, I never pushed or asked him. Then he wanted to be friends, and see each other from time to time. He kept asking if I would want the same too. I was accepting of his words, and believed him.



But now he will not let go, and keep telling me I am great, that he thinks I am incredible, he likes me a lot etc. I am not hurt, even told him this. Except, I need to know if that friendship he wants, does it include sex or not. He needs to be clear. If not, I will look elsewhere for sex.



I am fine with demoting him to a friend but why can he not tell me if that friendship, includes sex or not ?





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Is he still texting you after that serious rship thing ?



And you are right about not waiting at his doorstep.



You did not asked...but that's most likely how he saw all of the thing. What for you it was just a kind gesture, for him he saw it as..."are you trying to *trap* me ?". Hence his reply, and that's the only reason i see for him to reply like that and tbh, that was also how i saw your reply to him.



It doesn't mean at all that this was the reason that you replied to him like that ! I am just trying to tell you what he might have seen in all of that, so you can better understand wtf is going on.



Rship can be such a mess...nobody wants to give in...both are afraid of what might happen...arfff..



I think that you shouldn't ask about anything of the freinds situation, he will most likely be evasive.



As for the sex...if you want more from him, you will have to skip the sex part...that is realy my best advice to you...and that's how you take control of everything.



The most important part now, is actualy you asking yourself what is that you realy want from him. click to expand



Most Rams, if not all encouraged me to make him soup, including you.



That I should show I cared, because frankly before I was the casual one. He kept investing, and was rather sensitive / territorial / wanting to be seen publicly with me / trying to make me jealous. I was unsure until recently, because of his actions and investments, that maybe more would be nice. Before, he was the one that pushed whilst I remain at a bit of a distant.



So why are you backtracking now, saying that you also see the soup as my attempt to trap him, that I am doing too much ?



It is kindness, not a trap. I say what I mean, there is not extra agenda.



I am not afraid, I know exactly what I want. My life is good, alone. I have my friends, my life, my work, and my independence. He knows this, he always said I was strong and independent. Though I do want a relationship if there is the possibility for it. I am also fine with a friendship or friends with benefits. However, he needs to tell me which, so I could categorise him. I am not pressuring him for more, I told him this.



I do not think that is too much to ask, it is only adult, to be clear.



Is honesty so hard to believe and accept ?



Yes, he is being evasive still. He will not answer the sex question, if he will not answer in the near future. I will look for sex elsewhere, and leave him be until he chooses to return.



He wants to be my friend, to hang out from time to time, if I like that too. He kept asking if I like that. For bloody hells sake, he needs to be more blunt and tell me exactly what he wants.



Why ask if I would like that ? Why evade such a simple sex question (answer is only yes or no) ? Why would he fear answering ?



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I didn't said that the problem was the soup, I said that the problem was your reply to him when you were *mad* at him 🙂

You just made a soup to this guy, he says no after all the work you had. What you should've done after was to really show how fucking mad you were with him after all the work you had. That's how you deal with an Aries, heads on ^^

Don't be *afraid* to say things as they are to an Aries. He might sulk or get angry, but it will pass in no time 🙂

Aries when it comes to feelings...it can be a really though thing, and this guy got some heavy bagage on this department as you know and said here.

Like i also said, i totaly believe that you just wanted to do something for him as a kind gesture and in no way you were trying to be dishonest or lay a trap on anything ^^

I know it's such a shity thing, specialy because untill this point you were totaly doing your own thing and then you decide to do something for him...and it totaly backfires in a confusion and now it *may seem like you are the one chasing him*, when it's not the case at all.

I understand you full well 🙂 And like i said, i am just trying to help you out here on what might be going on his head and why he reacted to all of this in the way he did 🙂

I doubt that he is going to answer you that question, i mean it's prety obvious that he still wants the sex imo. But what is he suposed to say to you ?..."Yes i still want sex after rejecting all that you did for me and i said no and was that of a jerk towards you.." ^^

I think you still got this guy when it comes to something more, but i also think that this will be a huuuge pain in the ass for you...lol...get ready ^^

If i were you i wold just leave him be and make him realise how hard he fcked up with you, when you were just showing a bit of kindness towards him...that's how Aries learn, and i think there is no other way tbh...

As you can see, so far i am *showing* you the bad side of the Aries sign...and it's actualy a very hard one to deal with...but the good side, if you ever manage to pull that out of him and just for yourself...humm...you will see how diferent it is from everything else 🙂
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He told me he is not looking for anything serious at the moment (though his actions said otherwise, are we not supposed to look at actions instead of words ?). That he really liked me, and that he thought I was great. We could be friends, and see each other from time to time.



He was the one that was public, territorial, sensitive, and offended when I was casual before. As soon as I show a little investment. He responds with this.



Why ?





Friends with benefits ? click to expand





Apparently not that either @MyStarsShine, I would have been fine with that too because I would simply demote him in my life to that level. However, he cannot accept the fact that I am accepting of his honesty and the situation. He told me he does not want to be serious. When someone tells me that, I will take them for their word.



He is now refusing to let up, and tells me he likes me a lot, he thinks I am great etc. Which is nice, but I am not hurt once everything is clear. I am in no uncertain stance, asking him out right if that friendship includes sex or not. I prefer to be clear. click to expand





He sounds confusing ..... click to expand
I do not believe in deluding myself. If a man tells me he does not want to be serious, I will believe him, even despite his actions, and him being strange.



He needs to be clear with me, now he keeps going in circles. I need to know if this is a friendship with benefits, cause if I do not get the sex. I will look elsewhere for it. click to expand



Sounds like he has a lot of baggage, and somewhat cowardly click to expand
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It may be stars, you could be correct. However, what ever it may be, analysing too much though tempting may serve to hurt me rather than help me. He may perceive me as dramatic, or desperate simply by asking for clarity as I did. Even though that may not have been my intent, but we can not control how others see us.

At the moment, I think it is best that I simply disappear and ignore him. Out of sight, out of mind. Focus on channeling my energies, keeping a positive vibration by doing things I love, my work, and friends that care. Self love, and kindness to oneself. 🙂
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I agree with Ram.....leave him be....or rather just leave him alone totally



You could do a lot better, ma'am




Yes stars, I will leave him be. My pride is at stake, and I refuse to embarrass myself. We are kind, but Stinger women are not pushovers.

Will share the abundance of kindness and love that I have with those around me who care instead, friendships. Must channel positivity, and not let negativity shroud me over this despite the disappointment that I feel.
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He told me he is not looking for anything serious at the moment (though his actions said otherwise, are we not supposed to look at actions instead of words ?). That he really liked me, and that he thought I was great. We could be friends, and see each other from time to time.



He was the one that was public, territorial, sensitive, and offended when I was casual before. As soon as I show a little investment. He responds with this.



Why ?





Friends with benefits ? click to expand





Apparently not that either @MyStarsShine, I would have been fine with that too because I would simply demote him in my life to that level. However, he cannot accept the fact that I am accepting of his honesty and the situation. He told me he does not want to be serious. When someone tells me that, I will take them for their word.



He is now refusing to let up, and tells me he likes me a lot, he thinks I am great etc. Which is nice, but I am not hurt once everything is clear. I am in no uncertain stance, asking him out right if that friendship includes sex or not. I prefer to be clear. click to expand





He sounds confusing ..... click to expand





I do not believe in deluding myself. If a man tells me he does not want to be serious, I will believe him, even despite his actions, and him being strange.



He needs to be clear with me, now he keeps going in circles. I need to know if this is a friendship with benefits, cause if I do not get the sex. I will look elsewhere for it. click to expand
Sounds like he has a lot of baggage, and somewhat cowardly click to expand



It may be stars, you could be correct. However, what ever it may be, analysing too much though tempting may serve to hurt me rather than help me. He may perceive me as dramatic, or desperate simply by asking for clarity as I did. Even though that may not have been my intent, but we can not control how others see us.



At the moment, I think it is best that I simply disappear and ignore him. Out of sight, out of mind. Focus on channeling my energies, keeping a positive vibration by doing things I love, my work, and friends that care. Self love, and kindness to oneself. click to expand
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Just remember your worth and remember the dating scene these days is a jungle

I'm glad to not be a part of it tbh
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I agree with Ram.....leave him be....or rather just leave him alone totally



You could do a lot better, ma'am







Yes stars, I will leave him be. My pride is at stake, and I refuse to embarrass myself. We are kind, but Stinger women are not pushovers.



Will share the abundance of kindness and love that I have with those around me who care instead, friendships. Must channel positivity, and not let negativity shroud me over this despite the disappointment that I feel. click to expand
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What an asshole to reject your soup. Dick move. You are better off without him. Hopefully you meet some better Rams.
Yes @bmoon8, I took it upon myself to not let my anger or disappointment get the better of me. The soup was made with kindness, and care. So I chose to share the entire stockpot with my friends and had some for myself, to soothe. Their honest appreciation, and happiness while enjoying it filled me with love and positivity. It did not go to waste. 😆

Besides, my soup was bloody delicious. Why be rash and waste it, I am glad I did not let him affect me enough to toss it all out.

Hopefully I will meet better Rams in the future. I would love to. 🙂
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@IamTheRam, I did show how angry I was by going cold, and told him I cannot be nice, can I ? Guess you do not want every else too (it was not merely soup, but had gotten medication and vitamins as well). Get well soon, and I will have the soup myself.

He knew I was mad, why else would he immediately come back and try to reassure me that I was nice. Of course, I am nice. I did not need him to tell me that, I do not need his pity or babying.

Was that not head on ?



Truly, men try to find an agenda and dishonesty sometimes when a woman has none. When I say something, I do it, as is. Nothing more, nothing less. I gave him that small gift before this incident was because he treated me, to far too many meals and drinks. It felt right that I did it, I do not believe in owing others, and believe in reciprocation.

Yes, precisely. You seem to understand it far better than he does. He most likely perceives me as dramatic, and unable to accept rejection now. Fearing that I may cause a scene or be clingy / needy.

Am I correct in this assessment ?

Which is silly, I will go dead cold on him, as if I never existed in his life. Never underestimate the pride of a Stinger woman, we will not fully embarrass ourselves.

I never chased him, I never questioned whether or not he had dalliances with other women. He meanwhile always tried to find out if I had any other man or men. He also hated when I spoke well of any other man. I never showed jealousy, nor was I territorial, he was. Did things to incite me, which I did not react to. I was also not public in our affections, he really was, and kept doing so which shocked me. I would have been fine if it was kept private, but he chose to let everyone know. Normally, unless we are firmly committed, I will remain distant out of respect. I was not the one sensitive, when I refused to share all parts of my life with him, he was the one hurt. He shared much of his life with me, past and present. I was living my own life, he knew that. Before, he was the one to say he liked me a lot, that he wanted to see me. To take me out to meals, and drinks, never letting me pay. Constantly worried whether or not I am happy or content with the things he did.

Why ?

Thank you for being understanding, and for your patience in explaining everything. I do appreciate it. 🙂
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@IamTheRam, if I am such a nuisance.

Why does he keep saying he wants a friendship, and asking if I like that or want it too ?

Most men, would take it, and run or disappear. He repeated twice about wanting to be my friend. That he wants it.

Is he pitying me ?



I thought you said he now perceives me as wanting more, feeling pressure, and fearing I would cause drama.

Therefore, what makes you think he still wants sex ? and why is that obvious to you ?

["Yes i still want sex after rejecting all that you did for me and i said no and was that of a jerk towards you.."]

Precisely this, I expected to hear that statement of yours from him. That, he would tell me he wants sex. Honesty, even if hurtful honesty, is something I respect far more than nothing at all.

Did you not say Rams are blunt ? So then, why hide, if I could accept it ? He wants me to still see him as a good Ram, and not a bastard ... is that it ?



He kept increasing his affectionate speech the more cold I got and detached I got.

Is he trying to appease me ? Why is he doing that ?

I hate that, if he were. I do not need it. I am not fragile, and I will not break.

Tell me you do not want my kindness, and I will take the rug from underneath your feet. Everything will be taken back, and I will retreat my compassion. I refuse to beg for someone to accept my gestures.

He will get space, I do not intend to see him, or write him. Simply disappear, as if I never was. Winter is coming, said Game of Thrones. No, Winter is here. That is what he will experience. 😆



What makes you think he will learn or realise he 'fucked up' ? Perhaps he is relieved I am out of his life, no ?

It almost feels like, the more I go away, the more detached, and cold I am. The more he keeps pushing towards me, being affectionate, expressing himself, or being sensitive about matters. The minute, I show any hint of kindness or reciprocation. He runs. What on bloody hells earth. 😱

Why ?





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I see. You have to remember that astrology can only take you so far.....and that the answer to the *big question* that you really want to know, is something that i can't give you...but i can help you a bit.

What you did, it's done. You did what you felt like doing at that moment and that's what realy matters. You have your conscience clear that you realy did all you could in your power to be a good person. And isn't that what is all about ? Isn't that what's worth doing ? 🙂

He is the retard, ok ? ^^

The big problem here for you is that...his Actions are not matching his Words. If you had both matching, you wold know by now how he truly feels towards you, and you wold be ok with that, no matter the end result.

I don't think it's pity, sees you weak or anything like that at all...and i really don't think that he perceives you as dramatic and unable to accept rejection. It's nothing of that sort. I really think that he actualy cares for you. I really do.

If he cares for you as for something way more...well, that is the big question that i can't give you.

As for me, every time that i said i wanted to be freinds with a woman, i realy meant it. And nothing changed on my part, i remained the same person, but that's what i felt, Freinds.

As for him, i really dunno what's going on with this guy...i do change my actions and i woldn't be jealous at all, i wold be happy for her if she is happy ! She's a freind after all ! I really dunno...maybe you caught him in a bad day, maybe he doesn't know what he wants, maybe he is just completly messed up atm on all the feelings and rship thing, maybe it's just freinds...it's like i said...i can't give you the big question because i really don't know...

You and the cold thing and him being more afectionate is actualy what tells me he might care for something more...it's like...i woldn't behave like that if i didn't care for something more. This is an Aries man thing btw...it's a part of the package...and it's not one of the best parts...but it's included lol ^^

As for him and the distance...it's nothing of that sort 🙂

Aries needs to learn for themself, he needs to know what he actualy feels for you and that what he did was wrong...and for as incredible as it may seem....lol....distance is what will tell him how he realy feels for you...he needs to realise that by himself....you need to make him.....miss you.

And that's why you should just just leave him be atm 🙂

If he likes you, he will change, he will realise that he messed up, and he will try to compensate for that, we are a cardinal sign and capable of change. If not...oh well...at least you will be doing your own thing for now ^^

Try not to over think this TLS, just remember that you actualy did everything right and it's time for him to either step up or fuck off ^^

I hope i did help you a bit more, take care TLS ! 🙂
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Of course, @IamTheRam you have been more than patient in explaining everything to me, as best you could within the boundaries of astrology. You have my appreciation for your kindness.

You are most definitely correct. It is the mismatch of his actions and words (normally, men say a lot but do not show it, this was the opposite), that nag me more than my wanting to push for a relationship. It is the lack of certain knowledge that bothers me. It is not about relationships or love anymore but mutual respect.

I am simply disappointed that he is not like me, I do as I say. He does not.

His pushing for friendship after the raw rejection, is too painful. Combined with his inability to state what kind of friendship he wants, and it is too much for me. I require clarity, and he could not give it to me. It is not hard to say whether or not he wants sex or without sex, but he chose evasiveness. At this moment, I cannot stand by the door waiting for him to walk through. I need to walk away for my own sake.

The affection words he kept intensifying when I pulled away and try to regain distance / detachment after the rejection, makes me feel both offended, and sad. Those affectionate words does not soothe, it is not fair. If he wants less, his words should match it. His words should mirror my distance, and detachment. Him trying to pull me closer with affectionate words, and being nice. Serves to create more pain, for me.

I meant it when I repeatedly said I do not intend to do anything and will go into silence, the cold of winter combined. I will keep him out of sight, to hopefully be out of mind.

Yes, the ball is in his court. He cannot have me and give me nothing either. He cannot wish to keep me in murky undefined connection to satisfy himself. That is selfishness I do not need or deserve. It does not serve me nor would that be what I want in my life. If he wants me, he will have to seek me out, and show he has clarity to give. Any less, and I cannot accept.

The pain will pass in time, will update if anything arrises.

Your words will be taken to heart, thank you for the honesty. Even if you had to speak of the lesser traits of your own sign. 🙂
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One negative Ram Gent situation is replaced by a positive Ram Lady situation.

The former an undefined situation to walk away from, to the latter, a budding friendship to build on.

Fire energy remain persistent in my life, for that I am grateful.

Perhaps, this positive new friendship may bring me the soothing energy needed to heal the previous disappointment.

The unfortunate factor being, they both know each other. 😐
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One negative Ram Gent situation is replaced by a positive Ram Lady situation.

The former an undefined situation to walk away from, to the latter, a budding friendship to build on.



Fire energy remain persistent in my life, for that I am grateful.

Perhaps, this positive new friendship may bring me the soothing energy needed to heal the previous disappointment.



The unfortunate factor being, they both know each other.
Just curious, where are your moon and mars?
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What an asshole to reject your soup. Dick move. You are better off without him. Hopefully you meet some better Rams.
Yes @bmoon8, I took it upon myself to not let my anger or disappointment get the better of me. The soup was made with kindness, and care. So I chose to share the entire stockpot with my friends and had some for myself, to soothe. Their honest appreciation, and happiness while enjoying it filled me with love and positivity. It did not go to waste.



Besides, my soup was bloody delicious. Why be rash and waste it, I am glad I did not let him affect me enough to toss it all out.



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Oh good. I am happy for you that you didn't let it affect you negatively. And that the soup was enjoyed by you and your friends. He is the stupid one out of the deal and I blame his Pisces moon for the majority of it... especially the part where he could not accept kindness from you. Weird. You are a catch and deserve a lot better. click to expand
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Thank you dear @bmoon8, you are really kind to say that. I appreciate the generosity of your words, have to admit I needed that compassion. 🙂

The new Ram lady that has returned with a budding friendship. She has the same Sun and Moon combination as you. Though I am cautious with her, since she and the Ram gent know each other. They work together. 😐

Well, of course I am disappointed and hurt over how the entire situation played out because he gave no clarity. The choices were simple, friendship, friends with benefits, a commitment, or nothing at all. It was rather black and white. However, since he will not serve me at the moment. Positivity is what I must lean into, and to continue to share / spread love with those that care, even in my own pain.

Why would you blame his Merman Moon ?
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What an asshole to reject your soup. Dick move. You are better off without him. Hopefully you meet some better Rams.





Yes @bmoon8, I took it upon myself to not let my anger or disappointment get the better of me. The soup was made with kindness, and care. So I chose to share the entire stockpot with my friends and had some for myself, to soothe. Their honest appreciation, and happiness while enjoying it filled me with love and positivity. It did not go to waste.



Besides, my soup was bloody delicious. Why be rash and waste it, I am glad I did not let him affect me enough to toss it all out.



Hopefully I will meet better Rams in the future. I would love to. click to expand





Oh good. I am happy for you that you didn't let it affect you negatively. And that the soup was enjoyed by you and your friends. He is the stupid one out of the deal and I blame his Pisces moon for the majority of it... especially the part where he could not accept kindness from you. Weird. You are a catch and deserve a lot better. click to expand
Thank you dear @bmoon8, you are really kind to say that. I appreciate the generosity of your words, have to admit I needed that compassion.



The new Ram lady that has returned with a budding friendship. She has the same Sun and Moon combination as you. Though I am cautious with her, since she and the Ram gent know each other. They work together.



Well, of course I am disappointed and hurt over how the entire situation played out because he gave no clarity. The choices were simple, friendship, friends with benefits, a commitment, or nothing at all. It was rather black and white. However, since he will not serve me at the moment. Positivity is what I must lean into, and to continue to share / spread love with those that care, even in my own pain.



Why would you blame his Merman Moon ? click to expand

You're welcome.



I think it's a difficult moon sign for an Aries to have and it would cause him to want to be someone's rock. He would have difficulty accepting or receiving that reciprocated back to him. It would make him sensitive, wishy washy, and not clear with boundaries. Hence, why he was evasive in answering your question. I would take the evasiveness as a coward's way of saying, "nothing at all" and move on. He should have made it clear to you when he had the chance. click to expand
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By nothing at all, as in never see me again ?

You meant that he was being insincere and never even wanted to be my friend ?
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Any news with a Ram? Sorry, scorp lady, felt like sheet yesterday. I should catch up What's going on...
Read the updates, in the last few pages @WolfInRamsClothing. 🙂

It took a turn for the worse. I am now recuperating what is left of my pride and dignity, in much sadness and pain. I feel as if I was blinded to everything, doubts on everything I perceived of his actions and words (his actions showed all this romantic interest, his words constantly changed).

However, I knew what I saw was not wrong. Almost, as if I was taken for a merry go round and played. Not quite sure, if I was even fooled.
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Any news with a Ram? Sorry, scorp lady, felt like sheet yesterday. I should catch up What's going on...
Read the updates, in the last few pages @WolfInRamsClothing.



It took a turn for the worse. I am now recuperating what is left of my pride and dignity, in much sadness and pain. I feel as if I was blinded to everything, doubts on everything I perceived of his actions and words (his actions showed all this romantic interest, his words constantly changed).



However, I knew what I saw was not wrong. Almost, as if I was taken for a merry go round and played. Not quite sure, if I was even fooled. click to expand



Oh little scorp, don't make things complicated. Ok, I will go and read the updates.

I wish I found dxp before my scorp, I ruined everything 😐. click to expand
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What did you do to him ?
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Any news with a Ram? Sorry, scorp lady, felt like sheet yesterday. I should catch up What's going on...





Read the updates, in the last few pages @WolfInRamsClothing.



It took a turn for the worse. I am now recuperating what is left of my pride and dignity, in much sadness and pain. I feel as if I was blinded to everything, doubts on everything I perceived of his actions and words (his actions showed all this romantic interest, his words constantly changed).



However, I knew what I saw was not wrong. Almost, as if I was taken for a merry go round and played. Not quite sure, if I was even fooled. click to expand





Oh little scorp, don't make things complicated. Ok, I will go and read the updates.

I wish I found dxp before my scorp, I ruined everything 😐. click to expand
What did you do to him ? click to expand



First of all he likes fat girls. Geez, I would never think this could happen to me. Most often Taurus guys hit on my. They appreciate my elegant taste and figure. Scorp told me to gain 80 lbs what was that—?

He cried because of a movie. It's so weird for me, because I would never cry because of a movie. And here it is, this 2 m tall thing cried in front of me because of a movie. He attacked me with, "you think I have no feelings" thing, geeez, I had to pretend I cried too . click to expand
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Hard to judge from so little information but he might not have been a match for you.

Stinger men are very sensitive, and sometimes too sensitive. The fact, that he lashed out over something so small, confirms this.
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Posted by TheLadyScorpio
Of course, @IamTheRam you have been more than patient in explaining everything to me, as best you could within the boundaries of astrology. You have my appreciation for your kindness.

You are most definitely correct. It is the mismatch of his actions and words (normally, men say a lot but do not show it, this was the opposite), that nag me more than my wanting to push for a relationship. It is the lack of certain knowledge that bothers me. It is not about relationships or love anymore but mutual respect.

I am simply disappointed that he is not like me, I do as I say. He does not.
His pushing for friendship after the raw rejection, is too painful. Combined with his inability to state what kind of friendship he wants, and it is too much for me. I require clarity, and he could not give it to me. It is not hard to say whether or not he wants sex or without sex, but he chose evasiveness. At this moment, I cannot stand by the door waiting for him to walk through. I need to walk away for my own sake.

The affection words he kept intensifying when I pulled away and try to regain distance / detachment after the rejection, makes me feel both offended, and sad. Those affectionate words does not soothe, it is not fair. If he wants less, his words should match it. His words should mirror my distance, and detachment. Him trying to pull me closer with affectionate words, and being nice. Serves to create more pain, for me.

I meant it when I repeatedly said I do not intend to do anything and will go into silence, the cold of winter combined. I will keep him out of sight, to hopefully be out of mind.

Yes, the ball is in his court. He cannot have me and give me nothing either. He cannot wish to keep me in murky undefined connection to satisfy himself. That is selfishness I do not need or deserve. It does not serve me nor would that be what I want in my life. If he wants me, he will have to seek me out, and show he has clarity to give. Any less, and I cannot accept.

The pain will pass in time, will update if anything arrises.
Your words will be taken to heart, thank you for the honesty. Even if you had to speak of the lesser traits of your own sign.
You don't have to thank me at all 🙂

Tbh, we kinda *got you into* this situation with our advices, so at best, i should be the one telling you sorry for getting into this mess...so yeah, i am really sorry for that.

Yes, the mismatch of actions and words and being diferent with an Aries male...thing is...this kinda might come off as a bad thing at a first glance lol...but that's kinda actualy a part of the Aries Male charm lol...be carefull with this trait, if there is a trait that might make you fall hard for an Aries Male...it's this one 🙂

It's like...we all think that we want things to go as smooth as possible and that we want to know everything...but...lol we are such strange creatures lol..the hardest things in life do have a diferent taste, now don't they ? ^^ lol i dunno, maybe it's just me being and Aries and all the chalenge thing and the way that i see it 🙂

I understand, you were trying to pull from him the rejection in full force and he was not giving it to you in the way you want...and i know that you just wanted that so you could be done with him for good and move foward and leave no *trace of regret* behind inside of you...but, oh well...remember the charm thing that i just said ^^ (or you can call it selfishness, it works in the same way tbh hehe ^^)

And i really hope that things are not as Wintery on your side by now hehe ^^ do keep us updated in all of this if you can or want to ^^ i am actualy curious on what is this guy doing or will do 🙂

As for the honesty and lesser traits...lol you wanna know what i think it is the problem with people nowadays and all this rship things ?...

People are trying to be someone that they are not...they try to force a persona that is actualy not them. Social media, internet, tv, movies, etc etc in conjuction with the *wanna be* feelings, have a huge roll on that.

Which leads to the diference between an infatuation and love. In an infatuation everything is perfect, but then you start to see the bad traits of a person...and that magic perfect bubble starts to break and before you know it...the infatuation is over ^^

But with Love...humm lol...with Love it is not the bad traits that breaks anything, tbh, the bad traits actualy become a bit *irrelevant* ^^...in Love and with time...it's the lack of good things that will break it 🙂

So, what did i wanted to say with all of this lol....Just be Yourself Allways ! Someone that Loves you or Likes you will feel it for you just in the way you are ! No more or less ! And you can never settle for anything else in life ! So the way i see it, there is nothing to *loose* ^^

Take Care TLS ! 🙂
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Nothing but cold silence between the two of us, @IamTheRam.

Recently, I went to one of the places under the company that he works for and manages (I was dressed to the nines. As initially, I was supposed to go to an awards ceremony at a different location but did not, was not in the mood). Mostly because that day, was the anniversary of someone in my life who I had really cared about, she had passed away years earlier. I had rather spent the time, remembering and commemorating her.

Walked in, not caring if he was there or not, even if he was, I enjoyed the place. I was not about to change where I go in life to avoid him. He does not have that control or such an important factor in my life to affect it so. The moment he saw me, he looked both surprised and shocked that I dare show up. I carried on as I would, socialising with the people at the place, since I am friendly with them. He looked almost petrified, and I was thinking - bloody hell, I will not talk to you, bother you, look at you or cling to you if that is why you think I am here. You are not the reason that I am here.

He kept shrinking further and further away, into the darkest corner he could find but still looking and listening intently as I talked with others. Such strange behaviour, I was merely being myself. There is a lovely outdoor area attached to the place, and only one exit. As soon as he knew I was about to go out, he purposely dragged someone else nearby the exit to talk. I was frankly not in the mood to deal with him, or his energy.

The mere thought of him mistaking and having the same misconceived notion that I was going to try to trap him again, by appearing so as to wrangle him to talk to me, exhausts me. I was more focused on keeping the spirit and memory of the one who passed away, alive. That person was more so on my mind. I walked right pass him, even though he was facing me and inches away. As if, he was invisible. When I say - winter is here, I meant it. Especially when a Stinger woman does not want to deal with you or your energy in that moment.

If he truly wanted to be a friend. He did not have to look both shocked or petrified, and he did not have to be so passive aggressive about being in my vicinity. He could have had the courtesy to say hello, since he chose not to. I will not throw myself at him to be friendly again. After all I do have pride and a backbone. The ball was left in his court last time, he could very well step up if he wanted to, or if he truly cared to be a friend.

Throughout my entire time there, he never approached me but I could hear the gift I gave him being used, still. Then he began appearing walking in around where I sat, but always in a way as if to purposely ignore me in turn. He got more and more strange as time went by, taking his suit jacket off, then unbuttoning the buttons on his shirt, then pacing. Then sitting very much far away, the furthest he could be but directly facing where I sat. My back was to him, I was not in the mood to even face him. Then he smoked, far more than he ever usually would, he looked very stressed and a mess frankly.

What else I found strange was that, it seems everyone at the place knew about me. They told me I was famous, in which I questioned as to why, they said I was special. When I tried to press further, they only smiled. It was all too vague and I could not get a proper response out of anyone. All very strange.

Why look shocked or petrified, or shrink away and ignore me in turn, unable to approach me ?

Yet keep circling around me whilst using my gift still ?

What did he expect, that I would throw myself at him, so he could say I am too much again, as if I was the one in the wrong for merely being kind or friendly ?


Not again, tell a Stinger woman you do not want her, she will take your word and leave you cold. If you do not want my friendliness, I would take everything back. Leaving you to drown, and watch you pitifully sink, without remorse.

Though truth be told even now, I still crave closure, an answer. I do not want him, more so than the fact that I want to hash it out with him and get my truth out. At this point, I do not care what he says as much as me being able to tell him he perceived my actions incorrectly, and my intent was otherwise. The urge to blow up, and simply say this to him, has been growing ever stronger. Honestly, I do not know how much longer I could hold it in before, I verbally tear him a new one for unjustly assuming I would even trap a man into a relationship. Such a deed would be too far beneath me.

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Posted by TheLadyScorpio
Nothing but cold silence between the two of us, @IamTheRam.

Recently, I went to one of the places under the company that he works for and manages (I was dressed to the nines. As initially, I was supposed to go to an awards ceremony at a different location but did not, was not in the mood). Mostly because that day, was the anniversary of someone in my life who I had really cared about, she had passed away years earlier. I had rather spent the time, remembering and commemorating her.

Walked in, not caring if he was there or not, even if he was, I enjoyed the place. I was not about to change where I go in life to avoid him. He does not have that control or such an important factor in my life to affect it so. The moment he saw me, he looked both surprised and shocked that I dare show up. I carried on as I would, socialising with the people at the place, since I am friendly with them. He looked almost petrified, and I was thinking - bloody hell, I will not talk to you, bother you, look at you or cling to you if that is why you think I am here. You are not the reason that I am here.

He kept shrinking further and further away, into the darkest corner he could find but still looking and listening intently as I talked with others. Such strange behaviour, I was merely being myself. There is a lovely outdoor area attached to the place, and only one exit. As soon as he knew I was about to go out, he purposely dragged someone else nearby the exit to talk. I was frankly not in the mood to deal with him, or his energy.

The mere thought of him mistaking and having the same misconceived notion that I was going to try to trap him again, by appearing so as to wrangle him to talk to me, exhausts me. I was more focused on keeping the spirit and memory of the one who passed away, alive. That person was more so on my mind. I walked right pass him, even though he was facing me and inches away. As if, he was invisible. When I say - winter is here, I meant it. Especially when a Stinger woman does not want to deal with you or your energy in that moment.

If he truly wanted to be a friend. He did not have to look both shocked or petrified, and he did not have to be so passive aggressive about being in my vicinity. He could have had the courtesy to say hello, since he chose not to. I will not throw myself at him to be friendly again. After all I do have pride and a backbone. The ball was left in his court last time, he could very well step up if he wanted to, or if he truly cared to be a friend.

Throughout my entire time there, he never approached me but I could hear the gift I gave him being used, still. Then he began appearing walking in around where I sat, but always in a way as if to purposely ignore me in turn. He got more and more strange as time went by, taking his suit jacket off, then unbuttoning the buttons on his shirt, then pacing. Then sitting very much far away, the furthest he could be but directly facing where I sat. My back was to him, I was not in the mood to even face him. Then he smoked, far more than he ever usually would, he looked very stressed and a mess frankly.

What else I found strange was that, it seems everyone at the place knew about me. They told me I was famous, in which I questioned as to why, they said I was special. When I tried to press further, they only smiled. It was all too vague and I could not get a proper response out of anyone. All very strange.

Why look shocked or petrified, or shrink away and ignore me in turn, unable to approach me ?
Yet keep circling around me whilst using my gift still ?
What did he expect, that I would throw myself at him, so he could say I am too much again, as if I was the one in the wrong for merely being kind or friendly ?


Not again, tell a Stinger woman you do not want her, she will take your word and leave you cold. If you do not want my friendliness, I would take everything back. Leaving you to drown, and watch you pitifully sink, without remorse.

Though truth be told even now, I still crave closure, an answer. I do not want him, more so than the fact that I want to hash it out with him and get my truth out. At this point, I do not care what he says as much as me being able to tell him he perceived my actions incorrectly, and my intent was otherwise. The urge to blow up, and simply say this to him, has been growing ever stronger. Honestly, I do not know how much longer I could hold it in before, I verbally tear him a new one for unjustly assuming I would even trap a man into a relationship. Such a deed would be too far beneath me.


Wow he's weird

Sounds like a frightened rabbit

Lol
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That sounds about right. Funny you called him so, a friend of mine, said the very same thing.

Oh wow, that is funny

Why are you bothering with him? A strong woman like you needs a MAN, not a 🐭 click to expand
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I am not dear stars. He merely happened to be there, that day.

I chose that place, because the view and something about it reminded me of the one I was commemorating. Also, it was hard not to notice someone as they flitted around you, then kept distance, and then flitted around you again.

Yes, men are so hard to find these days. Rare commodities, I tell you. 😆
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That sounds about right. Funny you called him so, a friend of mine, said the very same thing.



Oh wow, that is funny

Why are you bothering with him? A strong woman like you needs a MAN, not a 🐭 click to expand

I am not dear stars. He merely happened to be there, that day.

I chose that place, because the view and something about it reminded me of the one I was commemorating. Also, it was hard not to notice someone as they flitted around you, then kept distance, and then flitted around you again.

Yes, men are so hard to find these days. Rare commodities, I tell you. click to expand
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..but by talking and writing about him, you are still keeping him in your life in some ways

Try cut the chords with him in all ways

Better to wait for a match than run around with 🐭🐭🐭

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Posted by MyStarsShine
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Posted by TheLadyScorpio
@MyStarsShine

That sounds about right. Funny you called him so, a friend of mine, said the very same thing.



Oh wow, that is funny

Why are you bothering with him? A strong woman like you needs a MAN, not a 🐭 click to expand



I am not dear stars. He merely happened to be there, that day.

I chose that place, because the view and something about it reminded me of the one I was commemorating. Also, it was hard not to notice someone as they flitted around you, then kept distance, and then flitted around you again.

Yes, men are so hard to find these days. Rare commodities, I tell you. click to expand

..but by talking and writing about him, you are still keeping him in your life in some ways
Try cut the chords with him in all ways

Better to wait for a match than run around with 🐭🐭🐭

click to expand
click to expand

You are not wrong at all, that is true but I am stubborn about my own truth.

Something about how unjust it was, to be mistaken, and then accused. It still bothers me. How dare someone accuse me of so. As if, if I do not let it out, I will explode. It has nothing to do with him, more so than the fact that it has to do with me. I have to sort myself out, in order to let that go.

It is a process, I am working on it.
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Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by TheLadyScorpio
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Posted by TheLadyScorpio
@MyStarsShine

That sounds about right. Funny you called him so, a friend of mine, said the very same thing.



Oh wow, that is funny

Why are you bothering with him? A strong woman like you needs a MAN, not a 🐭 click to expand



I am not dear stars. He merely happened to be there, that day.

I chose that place, because the view and something about it reminded me of the one I was commemorating. Also, it was hard not to notice someone as they flitted around you, then kept distance, and then flitted around you again.

Yes, men are so hard to find these days. Rare commodities, I tell you. click to expand

..but by talking and writing about him, you are still keeping him in your life in some ways
Try cut the chords with him in all ways

Better to wait for a match than run around with 🐭🐭🐭

click to expand
click to expand

You are not wrong at all, that is true but I am stubborn about my own truth.

Something about how unjust it was, to be mistaken, and then accused. It still bothers me. How dare someone accuse me of so. As if, if I do not let it out, I will explode. It has nothing to do with him, more so than the fact that it has to do with me. I have to sort myself out, in order to let that go.

It is a process, I am working on it.
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Posted by TheLadyScorpio
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by TheLadyScorpio
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by TheLadyScorpio
@MyStarsShine

That sounds about right. Funny you called him so, a friend of mine, said the very same thing.



Oh wow, that is funny

Why are you bothering with him? A strong woman like you needs a MAN, not a 🐭 click to expand



I am not dear stars. He merely happened to be there, that day.

I chose that place, because the view and something about it reminded me of the one I was commemorating. Also, it was hard not to notice someone as they flitted around you, then kept distance, and then flitted around you again.

Yes, men are so hard to find these days. Rare commodities, I tell you. click to expand



..but by talking and writing about him, you are still keeping him in your life in some ways
Try cut the chords with him in all ways

Better to wait for a match than run around with 🐭🐭🐭

click to expand

You are not wrong at all, that is true but I am stubborn about my own truth.

Something about how unjust it was, to be mistaken, and then accused. It still bothers me. How dare someone accuse me of so. As if, if I do not let it out, I will explode. It has nothing to do with him, more so than the fact that it has to do with me. I have to sort myself out, in order to let that go.

It is a process, I am working on it. click to expand
click to expand

Fixed hell ... I get that

❤️
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Posted by TheLadyScorpio
Nothing but cold silence between the two of us, @IamTheRam.

Recently, I went to one of the places under the company that he works for and manages (I was dressed to the nines. As initially, I was supposed to go to an awards ceremony at a different location but did not, was not in the mood). Mostly because that day, was the anniversary of someone in my life who I had really cared about, she had passed away years earlier. I had rather spent the time, remembering and commemorating her.

Walked in, not caring if he was there or not, even if he was, I enjoyed the place. I was not about to change where I go in life to avoid him. He does not have that control or such an important factor in my life to affect it so. The moment he saw me, he looked both surprised and shocked that I dare show up. I carried on as I would, socialising with the people at the place, since I am friendly with them. He looked almost petrified, and I was thinking - bloody hell, I will not talk to you, bother you, look at you or cling to you if that is why you think I am here. You are not the reason that I am here.

He kept shrinking further and further away, into the darkest corner he could find but still looking and listening intently as I talked with others. Such strange behaviour, I was merely being myself. There is a lovely outdoor area attached to the place, and only one exit. As soon as he knew I was about to go out, he purposely dragged someone else nearby the exit to talk. I was frankly not in the mood to deal with him, or his energy.

The mere thought of him mistaking and having the same misconceived notion that I was going to try to trap him again, by appearing so as to wrangle him to talk to me, exhausts me. I was more focused on keeping the spirit and memory of the one who passed away, alive. That person was more so on my mind. I walked right pass him, even though he was facing me and inches away. As if, he was invisible. When I say - winter is here, I meant it. Especially when a Stinger woman does not want to deal with you or your energy in that moment.

If he truly wanted to be a friend. He did not have to look both shocked or petrified, and he did not have to be so passive aggressive about being in my vicinity. He could have had the courtesy to say hello, since he chose not to. I will not throw myself at him to be friendly again. After all I do have pride and a backbone. The ball was left in his court last time, he could very well step up if he wanted to, or if he truly cared to be a friend.

Throughout my entire time there, he never approached me but I could hear the gift I gave him being used, still. Then he began appearing walking in around where I sat, but always in a way as if to purposely ignore me in turn. He got more and more strange as time went by, taking his suit jacket off, then unbuttoning the buttons on his shirt, then pacing. Then sitting very much far away, the furthest he could be but directly facing where I sat. My back was to him, I was not in the mood to even face him. Then he smoked, far more than he ever usually would, he looked very stressed and a mess frankly.

What else I found strange was that, it seems everyone at the place knew about me. They told me I was famous, in which I questioned as to why, they said I was special. When I tried to press further, they only smiled. It was all too vague and I could not get a proper response out of anyone. All very strange.

Why look shocked or petrified, or shrink away and ignore me in turn, unable to approach me ?
Yet keep circling around me whilst using my gift still ?
What did he expect, that I would throw myself at him, so he could say I am too much again, as if I was the one in the wrong for merely being kind or friendly ?


Not again, tell a Stinger woman you do not want her, she will take your word and leave you cold. If you do not want my friendliness, I would take everything back. Leaving you to drown, and watch you pitifully sink, without remorse.

Though truth be told even now, I still crave closure, an answer. I do not want him, more so than the fact that I want to hash it out with him and get my truth out. At this point, I do not care what he says as much as me being able to tell him he perceived my actions incorrectly, and my intent was otherwise. The urge to blow up, and simply say this to him, has been growing ever stronger. Honestly, I do not know how much longer I could hold it in before, I verbally tear him a new one for unjustly assuming I would even trap a man into a relationship. Such a deed would be too far beneath me.


What do you know....it seems that he really got feelings for you heheh you got this TLS !! 😆

As for your freind that passed away, sorry to hear that, i also lost my best freind when i was young to leukemia, so i do know full well how it feels and the celebrate him thing, because that's also what i did 🙂

But, going back to this Aries hehe damn...i can tell you straight away what he wants hihi he wants you to go to him... but *you can't*, and you wont 😆

He was trying to lure you all the way to him...ohh he was xD but that's his actions, if he spoke with you, his words wold tell you otherwise hehe it's kinda of an ego thing tbh, "Must....Remain...Macho..." haha ^^

He most likely already realised that he fucked up big time, but he isn't going to give in that easily ^^ he his wating for you to contact him first, this way he might *get away* with it xD

Infact, if he contacts you (which he will if he starts to get impatient because you are ignoring him hehe), i bet he wold say something like "Why didn't you came talk to me at the party ?...I said i wanted to be freinds with you..." Hehe this is really really most likely what you will hear from him xD

And that's him trying to *turn the tables* on you while keeping himself at bay....do not fall for it if it comes to this TLS...this is his Game...we can make him pour his heart out if it comes to this, but this will take time hehe xD

And not falling for it it's actualy the best thing you can do, this guy is double fire...double fires love to play the game of love hehe we really really do ^^

But what about you...my question still remains, what is that you want from him ^^ i think you already saw something good inside of him, and that's your *Achilles heel* when it comes to him ^^

And also, from experience i can tell you that when it comes to playing the game of love, something will most likely happen to both...both will get burned...there is no way you can play this game without making yourself *fall for it also* ^^ such are the *rulles of the game* 🙂

So...what to do what to do....you keep doing nothing xD like i said i really think this is going great for you...you just need to know now what you want to do with it ^^