Could You Hug a Murderer?

Someone who killed someone in your immediate family...

Is a kick in the 🥜 an option?

I’ll pass on the hug thanks

Is this related to the cop that shot and killed that poor guy? The brother who forgave her?

i have hugged a murderer.

he didn't murder anyone in my family though.

Posted by Phantom_Dangus

I don't know. That kid in Dallas hugging the cop who killed his brother was beautiful and brave. I'd like to think that in the face of teeth-gnashing regret and anguish, I'd forgive too.

Fuck that. If that bitch murdered any of my loved ones minus my Aries sister I would knock the shit out her in that court house. And y'all wanna call me a wife/woman beater. Some women need a swift kick in the ass.

Killed someone I don't like—

Only if I have a knife in one hand. Speaking purely regarding loved ones like OP said.

I couldn't even hug a puppy.

I couldn't even hug a puppy.

Yes, I could hug them to death.

Never

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Posted by Notmyrealname

Wait is this a news story? Isn’t ‘murder’ intentional/premeditated and ‘manslaughter’ accidental?

It's an unusual case. The cop went into the wrong apartment thinking it was hers and shot the man because she thought he was an intruder. He was just sitting in his own home having some ice cream. She admitted on the stand that she shot to kill when she saw the man she thought was an intruder, so it couldn't be manslaughter in Texas. In Texas, manslaughter is only when you didn't intend to kill.

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Pretty sure her being a racist had something to do with them believing she did it on purpose.

she should have gotten more time than she did and please, of course she's crying but that don't mean crap cause she knows what they do to cops in the jail house

Nvm.. They didn't reveal the texts until the sentencing hearing. Not during the trial.

In March 2018, her work partner and lover Officer Martin Rivera texted her, “I was at this area with 5 different black officers !!! Not racist but damn.”

"Not racist but just have a different way of working and it shows,” she responded.

On Martin Luther King Jr. Day that year, another cop also texted her to complain about a parade in the civil rights activist’s honor: “When does this end lol.”

Guyger responded: “When MLK is dead … oh wait …”

And just two days before she killed Jean, a friend texted her that they had recently adopted a German Shepard that “may be racist.”

"It's okay .. I'm the same," Guyger responded. A minute later, she added: “I hate everything and everyone but y’all.”

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Posted by Phantom_Dangus

I don't know. That kid in Dallas hugging the cop who killed his brother was beautiful and brave. I'd like to think that in the face of teeth-gnashing regret and anguish, I'd forgive too.

Fuck that. If that bitch murdered any of my loved ones minus my Aries sister I would knock the shit out her in that court house. And y'all wanna call me a wife/woman beater. Some women need a swift kick in the ass.

That's a valid emotional response, I think, and I don't think _that_ makes you a woman beater. My first reaction would have been to find and murder her. But once I saw her, all fucked up and full of regret because she made the worst mistake a person could ever make...I don't know. I can be very soft that way. (I'd still want her to get her punishment and spend time in prison.)

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Oh when I said y'all wanna call me a wife/woman beater I weren't referring that to you. I know you never call me that.

Anyway this crazed lady knew exactly what she was doing. I don't wanna say this was a mistake. I highly doubt she thought she went to the wrong apartment by mistake. And even if this was all a mistake she had no right to use her service weapon. Her life weren't in no danger. Someone like her gets no hug from me. Im not a hugging person no way.

And how do we know this thread is all about that cop murdering a black dude anyway?

It isn’t about mistakenly walking into someone’s house. It’s about the negligence of shooting someone so quickly and blindly that you don’t even realize the belongings in a home aren’t yours.

In college I walked into someone else’s dorm. I immediately said “oh shit!” apologized, and walked out.

This was a person trained to handle these sorts of situations and she reacted more poorly than most ever would.

She “broke” into a mans home and shot him to death before he could even stand up!

Accidents happen, but when people die because of your negligence you are liable. Period.

It is Murder.

People get Capital Murder charges (mostly black men) for just being involved in a crime where someone is killed, even if theyve never laid their hands on a gun. Meaning that if youre in a car and someone starts shooting, youre going down too. BECAUSE OF POOR CHOICES THAT LEAD TO SOMEONES DEATH!

Yet, this bitch busts into a mans house and recklessly abandons all protocol (she didnt accidentally walk in on what she thought was a home invasion) She heard noises inside the apartment, drew her gun, busted in and started shooting!!!! She was in NO danger. That isnt how police are even supposed to handle that scenario.

ANY WAY it goes she is a fucking murderer. Im sorry, but nah.

So, to answer the question.... I am not hugging anybody that fucking selfish, stupid and who doesnt value human life. NOPE!

And the way the media portrays what happened isnt correct. SHE HAD HER GUN DRAWN GOING INSIDE. She wasnt taken off guard. She didnt realize it wasnt her apartment, because she was firing shots as soon as she swung the door open.



This case has me PISSED!!!!!!!

Posted by Black-Mamba

"I think forgiveness can be important for ones own mental health. But the public demonstrations of forgiveness by Botham Jean's family (and the bailiff stroking Amber Guyger's hair, wtf), have had me sad and mad this week. I can't be angry at the family and bailiff personally, but the deep pathology that has been inflicted on black people that results in the impulse to hug, to comfort, a racist murderer in the hour of their conviction, makes me furious."

exactly from facebook post

This woman was going to eventually shoot someone, even had this not happened. No doubt.

She was questioned on the stand about her "de-escalation training" 3 months prior. She remembered nothing. Her online posts were very aimed towards an idea that "cops were above all others" and that aggression is what people who questioned cops "had coming".

I think the one thing that was positive about this case in terms of our society- were the families testimonies.

Botham's family were very successful, articulate, regal in their overall demeanor, lives, and testimony. You could tell that Guyger's family were definitely lower middle-class (at best), she was the most successful and educated person in her family with an associates degree, and NOT one person who testified on her behalf even apologized to any members of the victims families (that spoke volumes to me, on the psychology of the family) Yet, Botham's family showed compassion.........

Now obviously these things shouldnt matter, but I think it really unprecedentedly blew the whole "white lives are more important" thought out of most viewers minds. In surface-level terms of duality, Botham was a huge asset to this world, more so than the "gun-happy, mistress, white trash cop".

I'm not saying this to hype-up stereotypes or place more value over anyone's live, than another. But, this sort of idea has plagued people for many generations..... I think this case was really a eye-opener for people who harbor racist thoughts subconsciously, that not every black man in America has fallen victim to the systematic oppression of poverty and lack of education that leads to crime plagued communities. (Because for some fucked-up reason people view that as an excuse for murder). But that this man was HUMAN.

I know many will argue (possibly rightfully so) that this was an act of negligence, and that she shot so fast that race probably wasn't a factor. But it touched on our society's false ideas of value of life. Some how it was relevant and we all kind of felt that. Whether it was supposed to be or not, it touched on some of the cores issues in our society--- Race, gunlaws, law enforcement's since of entitlement, accountability. My point is- I dont think there could have been a better contrast in families to raise these issues, than the ones in that courtroom.

probably not, but unknowingly thats another story

Also... idk what the fuck that judge was thinking.

Posted by DMV

Someone who killed someone in your immediate family...

I am seriously questioning sanity of the poster here...now...🤔

What’s next? ‘Would you have a child with pedofile’?

WTF!!!

I literally just showed my girls that video before bed. That's the ultimate forgiveness, I cried with him. I know that young man has a heart and faith so strong he makes me feel so weak.

I learned a lot just from seeing his strength and his family's focus on forward and seeing change.

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If it was a mistake (like this was), possibly.

I would like to think that my heart is big enough to do something like this but I’m not sure. Takes one hell of a loving individual to do something like this

how the fuk was it a mistake? cause she's white

She was distracted and thought it was her apt. It’s not like she went looking for a black man to shoot.

But she found one..shot first and asked questions later

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Well, to be fair, as a police officer they are trained to kill. If she fully believed she was in her apartment, that would scare the shit out of someone. I live in Texas, most would shoot to kill if you are found in their home.

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If it was a mistake (like this was), possibly.

I would like to think that my heart is big enough to do something like this but I’m not sure. Takes one hell of a loving individual to do something like this

how the fuk was it a mistake? cause she's white

She was distracted and thought it was her apt. It’s not like she went looking for a black man to shoot.

But she found one..shot first and asked questions later

Well, to be fair, as a police officer they are trained to kill. If she fully believed she was in her apartment, that would scare the shit out of someone. I live in Texas, most would shoot to kill if you are found in their home.

Trained to kill if threatened. He was not threatening her. He was on couch eating ice cream. Let's stop defending her. She was found guilty of murder already...

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This isn't about me defending her, she was found guilty bc she is guilty.

I'm simply saying in Texas, it's very common for people to shoot 1st. I've made it very clear to my kids to not mess with drivers, to not go on others property or definitely not ding done ditch.

This isn't about anything else. I live here in the area of the case.

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Posted by ItsSupes2

If it was a mistake (like this was), possibly.

I would like to think that my heart is big enough to do something like this but I’m not sure. Takes one hell of a loving individual to do something like this

how the fuk was it a mistake? cause she's white

She was distracted and thought it was her apt. It’s not like she went looking for a black man to shoot.

But she found one..shot first and asked questions later

Well, to be fair, as a police officer they are trained to kill. If she fully believed she was in her apartment, that would scare the shit out of someone. I live in Texas, most would shoot to kill if you are found in their home.

Trained to kill if threatened. He was not threatening her. He was on couch eating ice cream. Let's stop defending her. She was found guilty of murder already...

This isn't about me defending her, she was found guilty bc she is guilty.

I'm simply saying in Texas, it's very common for people to shoot 1st. I've made it very clear to my kids to not mess with drivers, to not go on others property or definitely not ding done ditch.

This isn't about anything else. I live here in the area of the case.

I am a native Houstonian and very familiar with Texas. But not with what you say about the shoot first mentality.....sounds like the wild wild west...its not that crazy here...

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I'm in DFW, I can't imagine it's that different. Maybe, it is, idk. Houston is HUGE!!

Maybe I've been exposed more to this side, I don't agree with it. I've had a gun pulled out on me 2x, one while driving, one being in the wrong side of town. I've learned to expect everyone is packing. The kid that shot up all those innocent people at Walmart is from DFW. 😭😑

All I know is Botham Jean has the most beautiful family, I pray for them all. We need more of their love and compassion, their strong faith and guidance in this world.

If I knew that they killed another person. No.

I wish people would stop calling it an "accident". It was gross negligence. She DECIDED to enter the apartment AFTER hearing noise, with gun drawn and started firing. She didnt even take the time to consider the situation, had she, she might have realized she was standing on a bright red doormat and entering an apartment that had none of her shit in it. That is NOT an "accident". She was NOT in danger, she decided to enter knowing someone was in there. She made the CHOICE to kill someone. I think its insulting to call it an accident.

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I wish people would stop calling it an "accident". It was gross negligence. She DECIDED to enter the apartment AFTER hearing noise, with gun drawn and started firing. She didnt even take the time to consider the situation, had she, she might have realized she was standing on a bright red doormat and entering an apartment that had none of her shit in it. That is NOT an "accident". She was NOT in danger, she decided to enter knowing someone was in there. She made the CHOICE to kill someone. I think its insulting to call it an accident.

One like is not enough:

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LIKE LIKE...and so on and so on and so on..

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Make that 2 likes with the 2nd one coming from me. She saying exactly what I said yesterday. It was no accident or mistake.

I honestly dont see how this is any different legally than innocent people getting killed in crossfire from shootings. Or, people getting killed by mistaken identity.

Did the shooter intend to kill an innocent by-stander? No, but they made the choice to fire a gun at an intended target and it caused a death. She thought she was firing at a criminal, but she wasnt. She had not identified any threat. She shot blindly into a room. This was not a case of self-defense. This is a case of a mistaken target.



How many people are sitting on death row right now for shooting people "by mistake".

This was a DELIBERATE murder. She said herself "Yes. I intended to kill who was ever in the apartment." She decided to play a moral god, by deciding that someone being in her apartment, not harming her, deserved to die. Unfortunately she killed an innocent person, but now she needs to face the consequences of that choice.

She should be doing the same amount of time as any other MURDERER!

This case makes me sick.

Posted by DMV

Someone who killed someone in your immediate family...

That's some coon ass shit.

They say Boondocks got another season coming out. I look forward to seeing them spoof this.

Posted by DMV

Someone who killed someone in your immediate family...

depends on which person in my immediate family and why?

also, do step-parents count as viable victims?