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I believe none of it.

If there was some solid evidence I’d care much more.

First red flag is it has to do with politicians.

Secondly the woman is talking about something that happened in high school, and is an old lady now. If it did happen it’s unfortunate she had to live with that her whole life. The thought of having your innocence taken and just living with it is disgusting. At the same time she chose to live with it. Whether it be due to the times, embarrassment, or fear, the time to come out is long gone. Especially with no evidence now whatsoever. The people are so old they hardly remember back then.

At the same time I don’t believe men should abuse women, or anyone. Which is why the world needs more good minded masculine men. Without them there won’t be any strong good men to defend in war against tyranny, or stop weak cowardly men who hurt others. Weak passive men are just as worthless as the abusive ones.
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I have posted on here in the past, statements about how a woman safety is her own responsibility, that I do not want to consider myself a feminist in fear of swinging the pendulum too far in the opposite direction. I have given little attention to the Me too and times up movement (good for them but I got my own shit to worry about).

But this has awoken something inside of me, and I am angry.
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Two other woman have already come forward. Prolly just the tip of this iceberg. Rip supes left nut.


He doesn't have the balls to even answer questions in the public... But sits here and chastises a woman for coming forward with sexual assault allegations.
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Because he knows what is at stake. Just like all those old white dudes sitting on the panel. This goes far beyond this candidate. The message here is do you believe her? Or do you want things to remain the same, with us, in the position of power. Make up your mind america!
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This makes Democrats look awful going into midterms


How does this reflect badly on Democrats. Republicans look a fool for backing this dude.


It’s just this case would never see a trial


What case are you referring too?



Kavanaugh




Yeah sorry to break the obvious but he is on trial. That’s what this process is to hold the highest office, Sumpreme court judge.

The logistics might not be exactly alike but it amounts to the same. We are all watching and judging.


Yeah. This stuff hurts real rape victims. sad.


So she’s not real. Wow ok


Wow? There isn't evidence enough to even conduct a decent crimminal investigation. The so-called witnesses can't even say where and on what date the allegations occurred. It's obvious what's going on


So not enough evidence = shes lying. Again, wow.


....? Well yeah. Why wow?


I pray you never have to report an assault on your person to someone that thinks like you-Wow.


I'm not sure what the problem is with not believing something without any evidence. All you see here is testimony that conflicts with no real evidence.

It's political hackery

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I don't like accusations without evidence either, but even aside from that, his history shows that he in general doesn't have the best character, with his drinking issues and drama at Yale. Meanwhile, job applicants for seasonal retail jobs won't get hired due to even a photo of them holding a beer on social media.

SCOTUS justices serve for life and are pretty much the ultimate authority on what your laws are.

Shouldn't your standards be a little higher than hiring a retail cashier?

Surely there are many other qualified conservatives who actually lived clean lives, right?

Idk...maybe you Americans have some secret good reason for this?
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This makes Democrats look awful going into midterms


How does this reflect badly on Democrats. Republicans look a fool for backing this dude.


It’s just this case would never see a trial


What case are you referring too?



Kavanaugh




Yeah sorry to break the obvious but he is on trial. That’s what this process is to hold the highest office, Sumpreme court judge.

The logistics might not be exactly alike but it amounts to the same. We are all watching and judging.


Yeah. This stuff hurts real rape victims. sad.


So she’s not real. Wow ok


Wow? There isn't evidence enough to even conduct a decent crimminal investigation. The so-called witnesses can't even say where and on what date the allegations occurred. It's obvious what's going on


So not enough evidence = shes lying. Again, wow.


....? Well yeah. Why wow?


I pray you never have to report an assault on your person to someone that thinks like you-Wow.


I'm not sure what the problem is with not believing something without any evidence. All you see here is testimony that conflicts with no real evidence.

It's political hackery




I don't like accusations without evidence either, but even aside from that, his history shows that he in general doesn't have the best character, with his drinking issues and drama at Yale. Meanwhile, job applicants for seasonal retail jobs won't get hired due to even a photo of them holding a beer on social media.

SCOTUS justices serve for life and are pretty much the ultimate authority on what your laws are.

Shouldn't your standards be a little higher than hiring a retail cashier?

Surely there are many other qualified conservatives who actually lived clean lives, right?

Idk...maybe you Americans have some secret good reason for this?
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This makes Democrats look awful going into midterms


How does this reflect badly on Democrats. Republicans look a fool for backing this dude.


It’s just this case would never see a trial


What case are you referring too?



Kavanaugh




Yeah sorry to break the obvious but he is on trial. That’s what this process is to hold the highest office, Sumpreme court judge.

The logistics might not be exactly alike but it amounts to the same. We are all watching and judging.


Yeah. This stuff hurts real rape victims. sad.


So she’s not real. Wow ok


Wow? There isn't evidence enough to even conduct a decent crimminal investigation. The so-called witnesses can't even say where and on what date the allegations occurred. It's obvious what's going on


So not enough evidence = shes lying. Again, wow.


....? Well yeah. Why wow?


I pray you never have to report an assault on your person to someone that thinks like you-Wow.


I'm not sure what the problem is with not believing something without any evidence. All you see here is testimony that conflicts with no real evidence.

It's political hackery




I don't like accusations without evidence either, but even aside from that, his history shows that he in general doesn't have the best character, with his drinking issues and drama at Yale. Meanwhile, job applicants for seasonal retail jobs won't get hired due to even a photo of them holding a beer on social media.

SCOTUS justices serve for life and are pretty much the ultimate authority on what your laws are.

Shouldn't your standards be a little higher than hiring a retail cashier?

Surely there are many other qualified conservatives who actually lived clean lives, right?

Idk...maybe you Americans have some secret good reason for this?
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Trump selected him because he will support his pardoning of himself. It’s a calculated choice meant to serve trumps interest first and foremost, not the American people.
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The "Lion of the Senate".

Contrary to the claims that somehow this process would be different if it were someone else (any one from the Left claiming that is lying), imagine if it were Amy Coney Barrett instead of Kavanaugh.

Somehow a witness would show up swearing they saw Barrett participating in a donkey show in Tiajuana, slams on her faith (despite the 'no religious test' clause--that crap already occurred during her hearings for appointment to the 7th circuit court), mocking of her special needs child similar to what happened to Sarah Palin, etc..

Bottom line is that those accustomed to using the courts as a super legislature to pass 'law' that can't make it through the normal political process see the end to that practice, and will resort to any dirty tactic to prevent it from happening. (For further reference, please see "why Trump won")
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Rut roh.....

http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/02/christine-blasey-fords-ex-boyfriend-told-senate-judiciary-witnessed-coach-friend-polygraphs/

“During some of the time we were dating, Dr. Ford lived with Monica L. McLean, who I understood to be be her life-long best friend,” the ex-boyfriend, whose name was redacted from the statement he gave to the Senate, wrote. “During that time, it was my understanding that McLean was interviewing for jobs with the FBI and U.S. Attorney’s Office.”

“I witnessed Dr. Ford help McLean prepare for a potential polygraph exam,” he said. “Dr. Ford explained in detail what to expect, how polygraphs worked, and helped McLean become familiar and less nervous about the exam.”

I wondered about that line of questions by Mitchell.

Now Feinstein wants the FBI investigation kept from the public. One wonders why...
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Leland Keyser told investigators that Ford's friend, former FBI agent Monica McLean, had urged her to alter the original statement that she gave about not remembering any such party and not knowing Kavanaugh, The Wall Street Journal reported.

In a statement, David Laufman, McLean's attorney, denied the allegations, writing: "Any notion or claim that Ms. McLean pressured Leland Keyser to alter Ms. Keyser’s account of what she recalled concerning the alleged incident between Dr. Ford and Brett Kavanaugh is absolutely false."

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/friend-of-dr-ford-felt-pressure-to-revisit-statement-1538715152


Otherwise known as witness tampering.







As a side note, McClean's lawyer (Laufman) was in the DOJ National Security Division at the time the FISA warrants were issued re: Carter Page, and was one of those interviewing Hilary Clinton in 2016 regarding the email scandal.

Curiouser and curiouser.
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And there's more ( despite the news source, the communication from Senator Grassley is real):

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2018/10/05/this-sentence-from-grassleys-latest-letter-to-fords-attorneys-could-be-huge-development-n2525754

“In addition to the evidence I requested in my October 2 letter,” he continued, “in light of recently uncovered information, please turn over records and descriptions of direct or indirect communications between Dr. Ford or her representatives and any of the following: (1) U.S. Senators or their staffs, particularly the offices of Senators Feinstein and Hirono, other than your communications with me and my staff in preparation for the September 27 hearings; (2) the alleged witnesses identified by Dr. Ford (Leland Keyser, Mark Judge, and Patrick “P.J.” Smyth); and (3) Debbie Ramirez, Julie Swetnick, or their representatives."

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At first, I was pretty neutral. Then I realized that he had lied throughout his entire testimony.



so I believe her.


Lol. Not one single person she named as a witness validated her story. None of them. Her lawyers REFUSE to submit her polygraph exam, therapist notes and communication she’s had with senate committee people. She’s hiding all communication she’s said that she’s given as proof
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1. Polygraphs are notoriously unreliable. But actually, google it. The test is irrelevant.

2. Why would her therapist hand over therapy notes?

3. He perjuried himself. Perjury = no cookie. Regardless of whether or not she's lying, we know that he lied on the stand.

Why the fuck is he so important to you? Pick a different judge.
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At first, I was pretty neutral. Then I realized that he had lied throughout his entire testimony.



so I believe her.


Lol. Not one single person she named as a witness validated her story. None of them. Her lawyers REFUSE to submit her polygraph exam, therapist notes and communication she’s had with senate committee people. She’s hiding all communication she’s said that she’s given as proof

1. Polygraphs are notoriously unreliable. But actually, google it. The test is irrelevant.

2. Why would her therapist hand over therapy notes?

3. He perjuried himself. Perjury = no cookie. Regardless of whether or not she's lying, we know that he lied on the stand.

Why the fuck is he so important to you? Pick a different judge.




If he purgered himself, the Dems would automatically disqualify him. He hasn’t done it.

If it’s irrelevant, why did she say she would provide it then retract?

She offered up her therapist notes then retracted it.

Point being, she’s lying about something
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1. How would they disqualify him? And yes he did, you can google the things he's lied about

2. idfk. I just know that they're irrelevant. https://www.apa.org/research/action/polygraph.aspx

3. And so?

4. But we know that he lied multiple times throughout his testimony
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So, as a non american, what are you average left americans so scared of with this guy. How will it impact you? I keep hearing you think he'll ban abortion (won't happen) among other things.

So what exactly is it? Show me a list. Link me.


What country are you from?

A lot of people are worried about his stance on impeaching a president, the fact that he's supposed to be nonpartisan and he's NOT, his overall entitled temperment and him possibly having committed sexual assault. This is in addition to this being rushed AF(especially considering what they did to merrick garland).

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1. Ford is a Sagittarius and Sagittarius are known for their honesty and for being blunt.

2. Kavanaugh is an Aquarius and they make horrible liars. What I mean by that is you can tell when they are lying. They don't have the art of lying down.

3. Kavanaugh has transiting Jupiter sextile his natal Sun at the same exact degree, so he has luck on his side. It moved far enough from opposing his natal Jupiter to not have any negative impact.




A) Astrology has nothing to do with this. The first two accusers had holes all in their story, ones BF and old friend who also happened to be an FBI agent both came out saying she was lying and had tried to coerce people she named as witnesses in the so called assault into lying on her behalf.

B) The FBI found no wrongdoing during their investigation.

C) He was just confirmed on Saturday (yesterday).

Now the GOP has majority vote in the SCOTUS. Can’t wait to see the snowflakes melt into a puddle of despair.
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1. Ford is a Sagittarius and Sagittarius are known for their honesty and for being blunt.

2. Kavanaugh is an Aquarius and they make horrible liars. What I mean by that is you can tell when they are lying. They don't have the art of lying down.

3. Kavanaugh has transiting Jupiter sextile his natal Sun at the same exact degree, so he has luck on his side. It moved far enough from opposing his natal Jupiter to not have any negative impact.




A) Astrology has nothing to do with this. The first two accusers had holes all in their story, ones BF and old friend who also happened to be an FBI agent both came out saying she was lying and had tried to coerce people she named as witnesses in the so called assault into lying on her behalf.

B) The FBI found no wrongdoing during their investigation.

C) He was just confirmed on Saturday (yesterday).

Now the GOP has majority vote in the SCOTUS. Can’t wait to see the snowflakes melt into a puddle of despair.


You're on an Astrology forum, so there are going to be people who look into the astrological aspects. Deal with it.

The FBI didn't do a thorough investigation. They were limited by the White House. So it was an incomplete cover up to clear Kavanaugh in a hurry for a confirmation vote. That is all.
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No cover up. You seem to be forgetting they had an entire week and the FBI can’t stand trump. Last I check one of their investigators and a lawyer got caught texting each other about how much they disliked Trump and wanted to see him out of office.
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This makes Democrats look awful going into midterms


How does this reflect badly on Democrats. Republicans look a fool for backing this dude.


It’s just this case would never see a trial


Bill Cosby went to trial... And lost.

he's

Black
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No. There was actually proof that he did it. I know it's easier to believe it all amounts to skin color but in his case, no.
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1. Ford is a Sagittarius and Sagittarius are known for their honesty and for being blunt.

2. Kavanaugh is an Aquarius and they make horrible liars. What I mean by that is you can tell when they are lying. They don't have the art of lying down.

3. Kavanaugh has transiting Jupiter sextile his natal Sun at the same exact degree, so he has luck on his side. It moved far enough from opposing his natal Jupiter to not have any negative impact.




A) Astrology has nothing to do with this. The first two accusers had holes all in their story, ones BF and old friend who also happened to be an FBI agent both came out saying she was lying and had tried to coerce people she named as witnesses in the so called assault into lying on her behalf.

B) The FBI found no wrongdoing during their investigation.

C) He was just confirmed on Saturday (yesterday).

Now the GOP has majority vote in the SCOTUS. Can’t wait to see the snowflakes melt into a puddle of despair.


You're on an Astrology forum, so there are going to be people who look into the astrological aspects. Deal with it.

The FBI didn't do a thorough investigation. They were limited by the White House. So it was an incomplete cover up to clear Kavanaugh in a hurry for a confirmation vote. That is all.
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The FBI had no purview over these allegations. The individuals allegedly involved were not federal employees. It did not allegedly take place inside federal property. It did not allegedly take place on an Indian reservation. The FBI was never going to "investigate" it by compelling witnesses to testify, or by issuing subpoenas or warrants, or arresting anyone pending charges. That was a matter for the local police. Ford could have gone and filed a criminal complaint. Though, whether she could have held her story together well enough for a fifth retelling, really would have dictated whether or not she would have had a "case."

All the FBI was going to do was reopen a background check. A lot of people were demanding that. The FBI wasn't suddenly going to find information that wasn't there. Swetnick herself went on national TV and walked back some of her outrageous claims. I actually think Michael Avenatti and his client did much to help people tune out and realize how ridiculous it all was (Kavanaugh should send Avenatti a "Thank You" card.)

In the end, you were misled into thinking the FBI was going to investigate this the way they would investigate a federal crime. Rather, they completed another inquiry, if you will. The people Ford named ultimately could not back up her accusation. Remember, according to Ford, there were only a handful of people at this alleged party. What did you want them to do? Go question people who WEREN'T there to find someone who'd say "YEAH! IT HAPPENED!"
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So, as a non american, what are you average left americans so scared of with this guy. How will it impact you? I keep hearing you think he'll ban abortion (won't happen) among other things.

So what exactly is it? Show me a list. Link me.


What country are you from?

A lot of people are worried about his stance on impeaching a president, the fact that he's supposed to be nonpartisan and he's NOT, his overall entitled temperment and him possibly having committed sexual assault. This is in addition to this being rushed AF(especially considering what they did to merrick garland).

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Still using those buzz words huh? "Entitled." "Temperment." "Impeaching." I guess "Collusion" is old now?

Do you really believe Soto Mayor and Kagen are non-partisan? Have you actually read what it takes to impeach a sitting president? Al Green (not the singer) drafted articles of Impeachment on Trump already and it went no where. Didn't get anywhere near a majority. Neither simple, nor narrow. Did you know that the only Justice from the Supreme Court that can preside over an impeachment hearing is the Chief Justice? Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, et. al., can't do shit. The Senate and Chief Justice try a president once a majority of the house votes to impeach the president. After that it takes 2/3 of those present to remove him from office.

But yeah, let's keep living our days believing we can impeach Trump, and Pence, And Kavanaugh AND GORSUCH TOO!
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Why do the Conservatives hate Ruth Ginsburg so much? I saw a Conservative page on facebook post a picture of Ginsburg today with a ticking clock meaning her time is coming up.


Ruth Bader Ginsburg is Satan's daughter.

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The two homosexuals that she "presided over" for their "wedding" drugged, sexually assaulted, and raped a young man named Samuel Schultz.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/22/arts/music/david-daniels-sexual-assault.html

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/22/640945881/opera-singer-david-daniels-accused-of-rape

https://activistmommy.com/gay-couple-married-ruth-bader-ginsburg-accused-violent-sexual-assault/
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This makes Democrats look awful going into midterms


How does this reflect badly on Democrats. Republicans look a fool for backing this dude.


It’s just this case would never see a trial


Bill Cosby went to trial... And lost.

he's

Black


No. There was actually proof that he did it. I know it's easier to believe it all amounts to skin color but in his case, no.


Omg you completely missed the point

but okay
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I was responding to your “he’s black” response. If there was more of a point to the conversation it had been buried in all the previous pages I didn’t look back to.
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1. Ford is a Sagittarius and Sagittarius are known for their honesty and for being blunt.

2. Kavanaugh is an Aquarius and they make horrible liars. What I mean by that is you can tell when they are lying. They don't have the art of lying down.

3. Kavanaugh has transiting Jupiter sextile his natal Sun at the same exact degree, so he has luck on his side. It moved far enough from opposing his natal Jupiter to not have any negative impact.




A) Astrology has nothing to do with this. The first two accusers had holes all in their story, ones BF and old friend who also happened to be an FBI agent both came out saying she was lying and had tried to coerce people she named as witnesses in the so called assault into lying on her behalf.

B) The FBI found no wrongdoing during their investigation.

C) He was just confirmed on Saturday (yesterday).

Now the GOP has majority vote in the SCOTUS. Can’t wait to see the snowflakes melt into a puddle of despair.


You're on an Astrology forum, so there are going to be people who look into the astrological aspects. Deal with it.

The FBI didn't do a thorough investigation. They were limited by the White House. So it was an incomplete cover up to clear Kavanaugh in a hurry for a confirmation vote. That is all.


The FBI had no purview over these allegations. The individuals allegedly involved were not federal employees. It did not allegedly take place inside federal property. It did not allegedly take place on an Indian reservation. The FBI was never going to "investigate" it by compelling witnesses to testify, or by issuing subpoenas or warrants, or arresting anyone pending charges. That was a matter for the local police. Ford could have gone and filed a criminal complaint. Though, whether she could have held her story together well enough for a fifth retelling, really would have dictated whether or not she would have had a "case."

All the FBI was going to do was reopen a background check. A lot of people were demanding that. The FBI wasn't suddenly going to find information that wasn't there. Swetnick herself went on national TV and walked back some of her outrageous claims. I actually think Michael Avenatti and his client did much to help people tune out and realize how ridiculous it all was (Kavanaugh should send Avenatti a "Thank You" card.)

In the end, you were misled into thinking the FBI was going to investigate this the way they would investigate a federal crime. Rather, they completed another inquiry, if you will. The people Ford named ultimately could not back up her accusation. Remember, according to Ford, there were only a handful of people at this alleged party. What did you want them to do? Go question people who WEREN'T there to find someone who'd say "YEAH! IT HAPPENED!"

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Uh yeah, one individual was a former FBI agent whom was friends with Ford and called her out as did her ex bf. Quite a few people ford named as witnesses either said they never knew Kavanaugh or that they never witnessed anything happen on the manner Ford claims. Bottom line, dems didn’t have majority vote so they tried to smear his name and postpone the confirmation until after the election.
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1. Ford is a Sagittarius and Sagittarius are known for their honesty and for being blunt.

2. Kavanaugh is an Aquarius and they make horrible liars. What I mean by that is you can tell when they are lying. They don't have the art of lying down.

3. Kavanaugh has transiting Jupiter sextile his natal Sun at the same exact degree, so he has luck on his side. It moved far enough from opposing his natal Jupiter to not have any negative impact.




A) Astrology has nothing to do with this. The first two accusers had holes all in their story, ones BF and old friend who also happened to be an FBI agent both came out saying she was lying and had tried to coerce people she named as witnesses in the so called assault into lying on her behalf.

B) The FBI found no wrongdoing during their investigation.

C) He was just confirmed on Saturday (yesterday).

Now the GOP has majority vote in the SCOTUS. Can’t wait to see the snowflakes melt into a puddle of despair.


You're on an Astrology forum, so there are going to be people who look into the astrological aspects. Deal with it.

The FBI didn't do a thorough investigation. They were limited by the White House. So it was an incomplete cover up to clear Kavanaugh in a hurry for a confirmation vote. That is all.


The FBI had no purview over these allegations. The individuals allegedly involved were not federal employees. It did not allegedly take place inside federal property. It did not allegedly take place on an Indian reservation. The FBI was never going to "investigate" it by compelling witnesses to testify, or by issuing subpoenas or warrants, or arresting anyone pending charges. That was a matter for the local police. Ford could have gone and filed a criminal complaint. Though, whether she could have held her story together well enough for a fifth retelling, really would have dictated whether or not she would have had a "case."

All the FBI was going to do was reopen a background check. A lot of people were demanding that. The FBI wasn't suddenly going to find information that wasn't there. Swetnick herself went on national TV and walked back some of her outrageous claims. I actually think Michael Avenatti and his client did much to help people tune out and realize how ridiculous it all was (Kavanaugh should send Avenatti a "Thank You" card.)

In the end, you were misled into thinking the FBI was going to investigate this the way they would investigate a federal crime. Rather, they completed another inquiry, if you will. The people Ford named ultimately could not back up her accusation. Remember, according to Ford, there were only a handful of people at this alleged party. What did you want them to do? Go question people who WEREN'T there to find someone who'd say "YEAH! IT HAPPENED!"




Uh yeah, one individual was a former FBI agent whom was friends with Ford and called her out as did her ex bf. Quite a few people ford named as witnesses either said they never knew Kavanaugh or that they never witnessed anything happen on the manner Ford claims. Bottom line, dems didn’t have majority vote so they tried to smear his name and postpone the confirmation until after the election.
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No kidding. Always thought so. Last week. And the week before. And ever since that stupid “Spartacus” thing.
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1. Ford is a Sagittarius and Sagittarius are known for their honesty and for being blunt.

2. Kavanaugh is an Aquarius and they make horrible liars. What I mean by that is you can tell when they are lying. They don't have the art of lying down.

3. Kavanaugh has transiting Jupiter sextile his natal Sun at the same exact degree, so he has luck on his side. It moved far enough from opposing his natal Jupiter to not have any negative impact.




A) Astrology has nothing to do with this. The first two accusers had holes all in their story, ones BF and old friend who also happened to be an FBI agent both came out saying she was lying and had tried to coerce people she named as witnesses in the so called assault into lying on her behalf.

B) The FBI found no wrongdoing during their investigation.

C) He was just confirmed on Saturday (yesterday).

Now the GOP has majority vote in the SCOTUS. Can’t wait to see the snowflakes melt into a puddle of despair.


You're on an Astrology forum, so there are going to be people who look into the astrological aspects. Deal with it.

The FBI didn't do a thorough investigation. They were limited by the White House. So it was an incomplete cover up to clear Kavanaugh in a hurry for a confirmation vote. That is all.


The FBI had no purview over these allegations. The individuals allegedly involved were not federal employees. It did not allegedly take place inside federal property. It did not allegedly take place on an Indian reservation. The FBI was never going to "investigate" it by compelling witnesses to testify, or by issuing subpoenas or warrants, or arresting anyone pending charges. That was a matter for the local police. Ford could have gone and filed a criminal complaint. Though, whether she could have held her story together well enough for a fifth retelling, really would have dictated whether or not she would have had a "case."

All the FBI was going to do was reopen a background check. A lot of people were demanding that. The FBI wasn't suddenly going to find information that wasn't there. Swetnick herself went on national TV and walked back some of her outrageous claims. I actually think Michael Avenatti and his client did much to help people tune out and realize how ridiculous it all was (Kavanaugh should send Avenatti a "Thank You" card.)

In the end, you were misled into thinking the FBI was going to investigate this the way they would investigate a federal crime. Rather, they completed another inquiry, if you will. The people Ford named ultimately could not back up her accusation. Remember, according to Ford, there were only a handful of people at this alleged party. What did you want them to do? Go question people who WEREN'T there to find someone who'd say "YEAH! IT HAPPENED!"




During this cover up that the FBI called an "investigation", they didn't even talk to Kavanaugh or Ford about it. They were limited by the White House. It was just a cover up to hurry and get Kavanaugh confirmed before the election.
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What more can she say unless she’s changing her story again
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1. Ford is a Sagittarius and Sagittarius are known for their honesty and for being blunt.

2. Kavanaugh is an Aquarius and they make horrible liars. What I mean by that is you can tell when they are lying. They don't have the art of lying down.

3. Kavanaugh has transiting Jupiter sextile his natal Sun at the same exact degree, so he has luck on his side. It moved far enough from opposing his natal Jupiter to not have any negative impact.




A) Astrology has nothing to do with this. The first two accusers had holes all in their story, ones BF and old friend who also happened to be an FBI agent both came out saying she was lying and had tried to coerce people she named as witnesses in the so called assault into lying on her behalf.

B) The FBI found no wrongdoing during their investigation.

C) He was just confirmed on Saturday (yesterday).

Now the GOP has majority vote in the SCOTUS. Can’t wait to see the snowflakes melt into a puddle of despair.


You're on an Astrology forum, so there are going to be people who look into the astrological aspects. Deal with it.

The FBI didn't do a thorough investigation. They were limited by the White House. So it was an incomplete cover up to clear Kavanaugh in a hurry for a confirmation vote. That is all.


The FBI had no purview over these allegations. The individuals allegedly involved were not federal employees. It did not allegedly take place inside federal property. It did not allegedly take place on an Indian reservation. The FBI was never going to "investigate" it by compelling witnesses to testify, or by issuing subpoenas or warrants, or arresting anyone pending charges. That was a matter for the local police. Ford could have gone and filed a criminal complaint. Though, whether she could have held her story together well enough for a fifth retelling, really would have dictated whether or not she would have had a "case."

All the FBI was going to do was reopen a background check. A lot of people were demanding that. The FBI wasn't suddenly going to find information that wasn't there. Swetnick herself went on national TV and walked back some of her outrageous claims. I actually think Michael Avenatti and his client did much to help people tune out and realize how ridiculous it all was (Kavanaugh should send Avenatti a "Thank You" card.)

In the end, you were misled into thinking the FBI was going to investigate this the way they would investigate a federal crime. Rather, they completed another inquiry, if you will. The people Ford named ultimately could not back up her accusation. Remember, according to Ford, there were only a handful of people at this alleged party. What did you want them to do? Go question people who WEREN'T there to find someone who'd say "YEAH! IT HAPPENED!"




During this cover up that the FBI called an "investigation", they didn't even talk to Kavanaugh or Ford about it. They were limited by the White House. It was just a cover up to hurry and get Kavanaugh confirmed before the election.
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They had already given sworn statements in front of congress. Did you expect the FBI to go to the home and put the ol’ squeeze play on them? FBI wasn’t never going to investigate. This was background check number 7. An inquiry. They are just as guilty of calling it an “investigation” as the democrats, the Republicans, you.
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Why do the Conservatives hate Ruth Ginsburg so much? I saw a Conservative page on facebook post a picture of Ginsburg today with a ticking clock meaning her time is coming up.


Ruth Bader Ginsburg is Satan's daughter.

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The two homosexuals that she "presided over" for their "wedding" drugged, sexually assaulted, and raped a young man named Samuel Schultz.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/22/arts/music/david-daniels-sexual-assault.html

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/22/640945881/opera-singer-david-daniels-accused-of-rape

https://activistmommy.com/gay-couple-married-ruth-bader-ginsburg-accused-violent-sexual-assault/




Quotes aren't always true or have been said by a person. I always fact check them.

https://www.quora.com/Has-Justice-Ginsburg-stated-that-the-age-of-consent-should-be-12

The articles you posted about the homosexuals is that they were accused of rape, but it does not appear they were convicted of it.
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Since when is Quora a valid source to counter the original quote from Ginsburg? Why don't you quote from your neighborhood crackhead while you are at it.



Your homosexual couple raped Schultz, as is the case with many other sexual deviants.

Stop encouraging perversions, and you won't have as many open sexual attacks by the perverts.

They should be condemned, not condoned.
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Posted by bmoon8

1. Ford is a Sagittarius and Sagittarius are known for their honesty and for being blunt.

2. Kavanaugh is an Aquarius and they make horrible liars. What I mean by that is you can tell when they are lying. They don't have the art of lying down.

3. Kavanaugh has transiting Jupiter sextile his natal Sun at the same exact degree, so he has luck on his side. It moved far enough from opposing his natal Jupiter to not have any negative impact.




LOL.....
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This is late but I wanted to say this. With the Kavanaugh confirmation, it's clear to see that once again justice was not upheld. I'm not surprised but still disappointed.

Silver lining is an upset in the upcoming primary. And then 2020 where if we can't come to an impeachment or removal or some proper check, we can at least add more seats so it's not full of conservative, corporation pushing, old men.

It's still a really sickening reality. I hope this inspires the MeToo and other womens rights and survivor groups to fight back even harder. They have my full support.
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*cough*

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-kavanaugh-accuser-recants-1541371466

“Nobody lies about rape. Lies don’t happen that often.”

*cough*

But wait, there's more.....

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/413444-grassley-refers-avenatti-to-doj-for-second-criminal-investigation#

"Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) announced Friday that he is issuing a second criminal referral regarding lawyer Michael Avenatti.

Grassley announced the move a day after referring Avenatti and his client, Julie Swetnick, to the Justice Department for a potential criminal investigation into whether they made false statements to Congress about Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh."

https://freebeacon.com/issues/kavanaugh-accuser-recants-referred-fbi-investigation/

"Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) sent a letter to Attorney General Jeff Sessions and FBI Director Chris Wray on Friday, requesting an investigation into false statements and obstruction allegedly carried out in an attempt to stall Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation.

Grassley’s letter described how Judy Munro-Leighton, a "left-wing activist," first portrayed herself as an assault victim of Kavanaugh but then recanted, admitting she "just wanted to get attention" as a "tactic" to derail Kavanaugh’s nomination."

What was done to Kavanaugh was terrible.

It's about time people start paying a price for this false accusation crap.

And stuff like this makes it harder for genuine victims to get justice.
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*cough*

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-kavanaugh-accuser-recants-1541371466

“Nobody lies about rape. Lies don’t happen that often.”

*cough*


Lol really? Wsj opinion...smh.


It’s an opinion on a news story, there are other sources:

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/3/another-kavanaugh-accuser-admits-fabricating-rape-/

Unsurprisingly, certain other outlets aren’t covering it.
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You really don't understand do you. This is the last time I'm stating this. From here on out I will just copy and paste past responses.

First check your source to know it's credible. This story has been mentioned in more credible outlets I'll give you that. But it doesn't matter. Kavanaugh still has many, many, accusations against him. The FBI deliberately refused to investigate, even after witnesses called in multiple times. He never had an actual trial, he lied on stand which is illegal, he is guilty.

Lastly false rape accusations are incredibly rare, less than 10% of rape accusations are lies. Compared to the ridiculously high rate of rape and sexual assault victims in the US alone. I'm sick of some idiot pulling up one case where someone lied about rape and using it as validation, it is not.
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*cough*

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-kavanaugh-accuser-recants-1541371466

“Nobody lies about rape. Lies don’t happen that often.”

*cough*


Lol really? Wsj opinion...smh.


What’s wrong with Wall Street Journal? You think they just made it up?
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It can be biased I would double check with other sources. But you should do that with anything really. Besides that was a wsj opinion article. Look at the link. In the very first paragraph it mentions the "progressive mob". Nope sorry already discredited yourself lol.