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The love between a mother and her child

The between God and the people


This, of course.



Love for family... you can't turn that off.

Strange how it works.




Nope! People leave families for other people.
You could turn off the love you have for your

daughter?

Really.






but that love is unrequited. it's 1 sided.

it's bittersweet in a way.
You think?

That hasn't been my experience but I guess

everyone is different.




It depends on the people and the capacity to love. Some people should never have children. They let them down and make a mockery of parenthood.....


True.

But generally speaking, evil people included--

will do for their families (mostly their kids)

things they wouldn't dream of doing for others.








....not always Monty. Some people put thier lovers before their kids. There are horrible cases of woman and men totally neglecting their offspring whilst breaking their neck to do all they can for romantic interests

Unbelievable but sadly very true

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Generally is not the same as Always.

There will always be horrible exceptions that

we hold up as the horrible exceptions they are.

I hope that helps you understand what I'm

saying.

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I have known some women put their husbands before their kids. I remember my sis and I having a discussion about this and she said if she had to choose one over the other, there would be no doubt at all, she would choose her boys

I didn't have our lad then so didn't get that, but I sure do now.

It's a powerfully indescribable bond not comparable to any other, it makes romantic love look like a joke
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The love between a mother and her child

The between God and the people


This, of course.



Love for family... you can't turn that off.

Strange how it works.




Nope! People leave families for other people.
You could turn off the love you have for your

daughter?

Really.






but that love is unrequited. it's 1 sided.

it's bittersweet in a way.
You think?

That hasn't been my experience but I guess

everyone is different.






you can't speak on it until you have a family of your own really.


I can speak on the statements I made.




are you married? do you have kids?



how can someone give an opinion on thailand when they've never been to thailand?
Simple-- I said you can't turn off love for your

family... and it's true.

Most can't.

You said your family doesn't love you back.

Its certainly unfortunate you feel that way, but

that hasn't been my experience-- not from my

own family or being the other half required to

complete this equation, as the child.

Carry your need for one-upmanship elsewhere.

I'm not buying.
















you are mis-interpreting what i wrote as a mechanism of cope.



i never said family doesn't love you back.



i said the children don't love their parents as much as their parents love them. this for the most part is true.



especially when the children became adults and have their own families.



you don't have a family. you are not married. so you don't know any better.
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That is not what you said--

See "not reciprocated"

YOU have gotten married and suddenly you're

the ONLY man who has ever been married. lol

A Sage.. and a very melodramatic one, at that.

Say hello to all of your water placements for

me okay?

*air kisses*
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I find myself asking a question too, if I'm a million or more years in the making and I don't pass that on and have a kid, does it all end with me? And was everyones struggle to create me, all those who came before, was it all for nothing?




correct. you have to procreate as a human being. it will fulfill you on a level that material gains will never.

the media's narrative of us castrating ourselves is not natural.


I think all of our material gains are just to promote the fact that we can enable the continuing on of us, and our partner.. meaning we can make sure our kids are ok, and their kids.. and so on.. the gains were never about us.. except in our need to not die out..

Not sure what all the momma love is all about lol Mine died when I was a baby.. I can say, that isn't really a deep thing in my mind except for the need to honor her in making sure she continues on through me and mine as I was an only child and she was highly intelligent and worthy of that continuance


there's a collective media push to castrate the mainstream for population control.



everything they push you toward lead to your destruction.



push toward promiscuity of the female. the female's emotionally bonds every time she has sex. this is why the female can't have more than a few sex partners before she becomes too emotionally unstable to wife. this is a fact.



push toward divorce.

push toward singledom (i need no man. sex and the city. eat pray love. find urself. love yaself)

push toward material enslavement

push toward corporate enslavement

push toward independence





so in the end everyone ends up childless and single. self castrated. women wasted their prime fertile years chasing that paper from some institution, that pat on the back from their boss, gucci shoes and prada bags.





just LOL





Adam and Eve are rollin gin their graves. the entire lineage that started since the dawn of mankind have made their way to you........ now ends with you.



that is sad.
I get this sentiment, I just had a convo with a woman about it.. I feel like it's not a conspiracy it's just that tech and electricity created opportunity for emotional woman to run from bad emotional situations in the past 50-100 years.. what's sad is that they hurt like that and it's only coming to light now.. I know the most hardcore feminists around the globe, we're not talking about mohawk butches but I know them too... they were all hurt by men somehow.. they love being treated like a women.. but they're not treated that way.. or were not (as men) treating them that way.. to me that's sad.. now they rebel and reject their femininity in a form of protest for what to me is a reaction to a strike against the feminine.. It makes me feel wild.. and protective.. Yes men are no longer men in the sense we understand and women are no longer women in a traditional sense.. but in a biological sense we have not and will not change, despite the past 100 years.. all of us should know this... and react the right way.. Women still want what they want, and us men, what we want.. everyone is just surviving and maybe afraid to hit on that topic Don..


you don't think there's a push toward promiscuity ?



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the media is definitely pushing against what built the western civlization.



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I think there is promiscuity without devotion, and commitment.. basically conquering mentality.. I think it actually hurts women more.. I know they don't want that.. we do though. I have..
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The love between a mother and her child

The between God and the people


This, of course.



Love for family... you can't turn that off.

Strange how it works.




Nope! People leave families for other people.
You could turn off the love you have for your

daughter?

Really.






but that love is unrequited. it's 1 sided.

it's bittersweet in a way.
You think?

That hasn't been my experience but I guess

everyone is different.




It depends on the people and the capacity to love. Some people should never have children. They let them down and make a mockery of parenthood.....


True.

But generally speaking, evil people included--

will do for their families (mostly their kids)

things they wouldn't dream of doing for others.








....not always Monty. Some people put thier lovers before their kids. There are horrible cases of woman and men totally neglecting their offspring whilst breaking their neck to do all they can for romantic interests

Unbelievable but sadly very true


Generally is not the same as Always.

There will always be horrible exceptions that

we hold up as the horrible exceptions they are.

I hope that helps you understand what I'm

saying.



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Yes totally understand Monty...those cases hopefully are few and far between ?

I do see people being indifferent to their children and not wanting to spend time with them. I don't think some realise how quickly the time goes......in a heartbeat they are grown up...then it is too late to recapture those years. People say to me "you've put so much work into your son" as though they are surprised lol

Love them intensely and then let them go when the time is right is what I am aiming for

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I find myself asking a question too, if I'm a million or more years in the making and I don't pass that on and have a kid, does it all end with me? And was everyones struggle to create me, all those who came before, was it all for nothing?




correct. you have to procreate as a human being. it will fulfill you on a level that material gains will never.

the media's narrative of us castrating ourselves is not natural.


I think all of our material gains are just to promote the fact that we can enable the continuing on of us, and our partner.. meaning we can make sure our kids are ok, and their kids.. and so on.. the gains were never about us.. except in our need to not die out..

Not sure what all the momma love is all about lol Mine died when I was a baby.. I can say, that isn't really a deep thing in my mind except for the need to honor her in making sure she continues on through me and mine as I was an only child and she was highly intelligent and worthy of that continuance


there's a collective media push to castrate the mainstream for population control.



everything they push you toward lead to your destruction.



push toward promiscuity of the female. the female's emotionally bonds every time she has sex. this is why the female can't have more than a few sex partners before she becomes too emotionally unstable to wife. this is a fact.



push toward divorce.

push toward singledom (i need no man. sex and the city. eat pray love. find urself. love yaself)

push toward material enslavement

push toward corporate enslavement

push toward independence





so in the end everyone ends up childless and single. self castrated. women wasted their prime fertile years chasing that paper from some institution, that pat on the back from their boss, gucci shoes and prada bags.





just LOL





Adam and Eve are rollin gin their graves. the entire lineage that started since the dawn of mankind have made their way to you........ now ends with you.



that is sad.
I get this sentiment, I just had a convo with a woman about it.. I feel like it's not a conspiracy it's just that tech and electricity created opportunity for emotional woman to run from bad emotional situations in the past 50-100 years.. what's sad is that they hurt like that and it's only coming to light now.. I know the most hardcore feminists around the globe, we're not talking about mohawk butches but I know them too... they were all hurt by men somehow.. they love being treated like a women.. but they're not treated that way.. or were not (as men) treating them that way.. to me that's sad.. now they rebel and reject their femininity in a form of protest for what to me is a reaction to a strike against the feminine.. It makes me feel wild.. and protective.. Yes men are no longer men in the sense we understand and women are no longer women in a traditional sense.. but in a biological sense we have not and will not change, despite the past 100 years.. all of us should know this... and react the right way.. Women still want what they want, and us men, what we want.. everyone is just surviving and maybe afraid to hit on that topic Don..


you don't think there's a push toward promiscuity ?



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the media is definitely pushing against what built the western civlization.



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I think there is promiscuity without devotion, and commitment.. basically conquering mentality.. I think it actually hurts women more.. I know they don't want that.. we do though. I have..
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We live in a 1st world country.. we can conquer anything we want.. we can have whatever we want.. we can date 100 women who are in their shells about it all because they don't know if we're real or not.... we can have some kids along the way.. we can fly in a dozen beautiful women from other countries and create a dozen families.. and even leave them in those other countries.. what about love though.. What about the one.. we all want this.. not just women.. this love thing.. I can't get it off my mind.
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the modern female is not capable of true love because of her media conditioning



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by the time she's out of college. 80% of their marriages will fail. that is IF they get married. they most likely won't even.



everything you are doing with her, she's already done it with Chad, Tyrone and Don. maybe altogether. You will never be special.

love is lost in debaunchery indeed.
That conditioning is all for nothing when she is alone and hurt cutting her hair a hundred different ways trying to figure out what she feels when in reality she just wants to be held and yell and scream and release.. women are simple man.. so are men.. those dudes that came before def ruined her.. such is survival though.. women aren't protected from pain anymore.. and it's so new to them that they don't know how to act..
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The love between a mother and her child

The between God and the people


This, of course.



Love for family... you can't turn that off.

Strange how it works.




Nope! People leave families for other people.
You could turn off the love you have for your

daughter?

Really.






but that love is unrequited. it's 1 sided.

it's bittersweet in a way.
You think?

That hasn't been my experience but I guess

everyone is different.




It depends on the people and the capacity to love. Some people should never have children. They let them down and make a mockery of parenthood.....


True.

But generally speaking, evil people included--

will do for their families (mostly their kids)

things they wouldn't dream of doing for others.








....not always Monty. Some people put thier lovers before their kids. There are horrible cases of woman and men totally neglecting their offspring whilst breaking their neck to do all they can for romantic interests

Unbelievable but sadly very true


Generally is not the same as Always.

There will always be horrible exceptions that

we hold up as the horrible exceptions they are.

I hope that helps you understand what I'm

saying.




Yes totally understand Monty...those cases hopefully are few and far between ?

I do see people being indifferent to their children and not wanting to spend time with them. I don't think some realise how quickly the time goes......in a heartbeat they are grown up...then it is too late to recapture those years. People say to me "you've put so much work into your son" as though they are surprised lol

Love them intensely and then let them go when the time is right is what I am aiming for

< 3

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Is there a way we can find balance?? Love em equally or something? Coz I've come across many stories where the husband felt neglected after they had kids n that's one of the serious reasons for them to cheat. I dunno if they can be blamed for that. Also eventually I think the love between the couple grows stronger. Kids leave to live their lives. And all we have is our partner.
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the modern female is not capable of true love because of her media conditioning



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by the time she's out of college. 80% of their marriages will fail. that is IF they get married. they most likely won't even.



everything you are doing with her, she's already done it with Chad, Tyrone and Don. maybe altogether. You will never be special.

love is lost in debaunchery indeed.
That conditioning is all for nothing when she is alone and hurt cutting her hair a hundred different ways trying to figure out what she feels when in reality she just wants to be held and yell and scream and release.. women are simple man.. so are men.. those dudes that came before def ruined her.. such is survival though.. women aren't protected from pain anymore.. and it's so new to them that they don't know how to act..
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Very painful to watch..
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The love between a mother and her child

The between God and the people


This, of course.



Love for family... you can't turn that off.

Strange how it works.




Nope! People leave families for other people.
You could turn off the love you have for your

daughter?

Really.






but that love is unrequited. it's 1 sided.

it's bittersweet in a way.
You think?

That hasn't been my experience but I guess

everyone is different.




It depends on the people and the capacity to love. Some people should never have children. They let them down and make a mockery of parenthood.....


True.

But generally speaking, evil people included--

will do for their families (mostly their kids)

things they wouldn't dream of doing for others.








....not always Monty. Some people put thier lovers before their kids. There are horrible cases of woman and men totally neglecting their offspring whilst breaking their neck to do all they can for romantic interests

Unbelievable but sadly very true


Generally is not the same as Always.

There will always be horrible exceptions that

we hold up as the horrible exceptions they are.

I hope that helps you understand what I'm

saying.




Yes totally understand Monty...those cases hopefully are few and far between ?

I do see people being indifferent to their children and not wanting to spend time with them. I don't think some realise how quickly the time goes......in a heartbeat they are grown up...then it is too late to recapture those years. People say to me "you've put so much work into your son" as though they are surprised lol

Love them intensely and then let them go when the time is right is what I am aiming for

< 3



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Agreed.

Sadly, the numbers become greater by the day,

it seems to me.

Or the opposite-- parents who over-care for their

kids and they grow up not able to take care of

themselves. o.O

Idk where I read or heard it but that whole 'each

generation shall be more wicked than the last'

really nailed it.

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The love between a mother and her child

The between God and the people


This, of course.



Love for family... you can't turn that off.

Strange how it works.




Nope! People leave families for other people.
You could turn off the love you have for your

daughter?

Really.






but that love is unrequited. it's 1 sided.

it's bittersweet in a way.
You think?

That hasn't been my experience but I guess

everyone is different.




It depends on the people and the capacity to love. Some people should never have children. They let them down and make a mockery of parenthood.....


True.

But generally speaking, evil people included--

will do for their families (mostly their kids)

things they wouldn't dream of doing for others.








....not always Monty. Some people put thier lovers before their kids. There are horrible cases of woman and men totally neglecting their offspring whilst breaking their neck to do all they can for romantic interests

Unbelievable but sadly very true


Generally is not the same as Always.

There will always be horrible exceptions that

we hold up as the horrible exceptions they are.

I hope that helps you understand what I'm

saying.




Yes totally understand Monty...those cases hopefully are few and far between ?

I do see people being indifferent to their children and not wanting to spend time with them. I don't think some realise how quickly the time goes......in a heartbeat they are grown up...then it is too late to recapture those years. People say to me "you've put so much work into your son" as though they are surprised lol

Love them intensely and then let them go when the time is right is what I am aiming for

< 3




Agreed.

Sadly, the numbers become greater by the day,

it seems to me.

Or the opposite-- parents who over-care for their

kids and they grow up not able to take care of

themselves. o.O

Idk where I read or heard it but that whole 'each

generation shall be more wicked than the last'

really nailed it.



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True Monty

Our lad comes home from school and tells me how useless some of the lads in his year are. He said one of them had to ask his gf to change his duvet cover for him. Only a few of them can cook or look after themselves. I am talking about 17 and 18 yr olds! What are their parents thinking? I remember my mother saying some women raise their sons and make a rod for some other woman's back. So true

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... there's a collective media push to castrate the mainstream ...

push toward promiscuity ...

push toward divorce.

push toward singledom ...

push toward material enslavement

push toward corporate enslavement

push toward independence

so in the end everyone ends up childless and single.

...

I agree with this. I've indeed thought of this before. It seems our work craft is more important to the whole system than the children we (could) raise. else there were more support for raising children. like half-time jobs in the industry etc.

well, either media is reflecting our tendencies or the system wants to import children from other countries. IDK.

I think the push is equal towards men and women. men are afraid to make babies cause they fear if they settled too early. or if the money they make is enough for a whole family.

the idea of "planned life" is leading people on.
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I have known some women put their husbands before their kids. I remember my sis and I having a discussion about this and she said if she had to choose one over the other, there would be no doubt at all, she would choose her boys

I didn't have our lad then so didn't get that, but I sure do now.

It's a powerfully indescribable bond not comparable to any other, it makes romantic love look like a joke
the same apply for my dumb Aries sister. she'd put her men over her kids. and has done it too. that's why she no longer have custody of her kids now. smh.

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That is incredibly sad to read 😢

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The love between a mother and her child

The between God and the people


This, of course.



Love for family... you can't turn that off.

Strange how it works.




Nope! People leave families for other people.
You could turn off the love you have for your

daughter?

Really.






but that love is unrequited. it's 1 sided.

it's bittersweet in a way.
You think?

That hasn't been my experience but I guess

everyone is different.




It depends on the people and the capacity to love. Some people should never have children. They let them down and make a mockery of parenthood.....


True.

But generally speaking, evil people included--

will do for their families (mostly their kids)

things they wouldn't dream of doing for others.








....not always Monty. Some people put thier lovers before their kids. There are horrible cases of woman and men totally neglecting their offspring whilst breaking their neck to do all they can for romantic interests

Unbelievable but sadly very true


Generally is not the same as Always.

There will always be horrible exceptions that

we hold up as the horrible exceptions they are.

I hope that helps you understand what I'm

saying.




Yes totally understand Monty...those cases hopefully are few and far between ?

I do see people being indifferent to their children and not wanting to spend time with them. I don't think some realise how quickly the time goes......in a heartbeat they are grown up...then it is too late to recapture those years. People say to me "you've put so much work into your son" as though they are surprised lol

Love them intensely and then let them go when the time is right is what I am aiming for

< 3



Is there a way we can find balance?? Love em equally or something? Coz I've come across many stories where the husband felt neglected after they had kids n that's one of the serious reasons for them to cheat. I dunno if they can be blamed for that. Also eventually I think the love between the couple grows stronger. Kids leave to live their lives. And all we have is our partner.

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Yes of course, in an ideal world Teena

You would have to experience it though to know. For some people, feelings change, people cheat, due to feeling neglected etc so it's not always possible
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The love between a mother and her child

The between God and the people


This, of course.



Love for family... you can't turn that off.

Strange how it works.




Nope! People leave families for other people.
You could turn off the love you have for your

daughter?

Really.






but that love is unrequited. it's 1 sided.

it's bittersweet in a way.
You think?

That hasn't been my experience but I guess

everyone is different.




It depends on the people and the capacity to love. Some people should never have children. They let them down and make a mockery of parenthood.....


True.

But generally speaking, evil people included--

will do for their families (mostly their kids)

things they wouldn't dream of doing for others.








....not always Monty. Some people put thier lovers before their kids. There are horrible cases of woman and men totally neglecting their offspring whilst breaking their neck to do all they can for romantic interests

Unbelievable but sadly very true


Generally is not the same as Always.

There will always be horrible exceptions that

we hold up as the horrible exceptions they are.

I hope that helps you understand what I'm

saying.




Yes totally understand Monty...those cases hopefully are few and far between ?

I do see people being indifferent to their children and not wanting to spend time with them. I don't think some realise how quickly the time goes......in a heartbeat they are grown up...then it is too late to recapture those years. People say to me "you've put so much work into your son" as though they are surprised lol

Love them intensely and then let them go when the time is right is what I am aiming for

< 3



Is there a way we can find balance?? Love em equally or something? Coz I've come across many stories where the husband felt neglected after they had kids n that's one of the serious reasons for them to cheat. I dunno if they can be blamed for that. Also eventually I think the love between the couple grows stronger. Kids leave to live their lives. And all we have is our partner.

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Remind him of what you 2 created.. make sure that the love, first and foremost is between you and him and that the kids are just bystanders who wander into that love and learn from that love that you 2 share. Love each other and let them learn from that.. that's part of leading, by example.. The love should grow stronger in the end because you were the person he chose to live forever with.. if you are both a million years in the making and he chose you and you chose him than you are both pretty special to each other without anything having to be said. That bond doesn't break easily.. especially if you had kids and rolled everything that you both are, into them..
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The love between a mother and her child

The between God and the people


This, of course.



Love for family... you can't turn that off.

Strange how it works.




Nope! People leave families for other people.
You could turn off the love you have for your

daughter?

Really.






but that love is unrequited. it's 1 sided.

it's bittersweet in a way.
You think?

That hasn't been my experience but I guess

everyone is different.




It depends on the people and the capacity to love. Some people should never have children. They let them down and make a mockery of parenthood.....


True.

But generally speaking, evil people included--

will do for their families (mostly their kids)

things they wouldn't dream of doing for others.








....not always Monty. Some people put thier lovers before their kids. There are horrible cases of woman and men totally neglecting their offspring whilst breaking their neck to do all they can for romantic interests

Unbelievable but sadly very true


Generally is not the same as Always.

There will always be horrible exceptions that

we hold up as the horrible exceptions they are.

I hope that helps you understand what I'm

saying.




Yes totally understand Monty...those cases hopefully are few and far between ?

I do see people being indifferent to their children and not wanting to spend time with them. I don't think some realise how quickly the time goes......in a heartbeat they are grown up...then it is too late to recapture those years. People say to me "you've put so much work into your son" as though they are surprised lol

Love them intensely and then let them go when the time is right is what I am aiming for

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Is there a way we can find balance?? Love em equally or something? Coz I've come across many stories where the husband felt neglected after they had kids n that's one of the serious reasons for them to cheat. I dunno if they can be blamed for that. Also eventually I think the love between the couple grows stronger. Kids leave to live their lives. And all we have is our partner.




Yes of course, in an ideal world Teena

You would have to experience it though to know. For some people, feelings change, people cheat, due to feeling neglected etc so it's not always possible

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Yeah exactly. I will not know unless I experience it myself. That's the reason I asked if it's possible. I don't wanna neglect either ?
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The love between a mother and her child

The between God and the people


This, of course.



Love for family... you can't turn that off.

Strange how it works.




Nope! People leave families for other people.
You could turn off the love you have for your

daughter?

Really.






but that love is unrequited. it's 1 sided.

it's bittersweet in a way.
You think?

That hasn't been my experience but I guess

everyone is different.




It depends on the people and the capacity to love. Some people should never have children. They let them down and make a mockery of parenthood.....


True.

But generally speaking, evil people included--

will do for their families (mostly their kids)

things they wouldn't dream of doing for others.








....not always Monty. Some people put thier lovers before their kids. There are horrible cases of woman and men totally neglecting their offspring whilst breaking their neck to do all they can for romantic interests

Unbelievable but sadly very true


Generally is not the same as Always.

There will always be horrible exceptions that

we hold up as the horrible exceptions they are.

I hope that helps you understand what I'm

saying.




Yes totally understand Monty...those cases hopefully are few and far between ?

I do see people being indifferent to their children and not wanting to spend time with them. I don't think some realise how quickly the time goes......in a heartbeat they are grown up...then it is too late to recapture those years. People say to me "you've put so much work into your son" as though they are surprised lol

Love them intensely and then let them go when the time is right is what I am aiming for

< 3



Is there a way we can find balance?? Love em equally or something? Coz I've come across many stories where the husband felt neglected after they had kids n that's one of the serious reasons for them to cheat. I dunno if they can be blamed for that. Also eventually I think the love between the couple grows stronger. Kids leave to live their lives. And all we have is our partner.


Remind him of what you 2 created.. make sure that the love, first and foremost is between you and him and that the kids are just bystanders who wander into that love and learn from that love that you 2 share. Love each other and let them learn from that.. that's part of leading, by example.. The love should grow stronger in the end because you were the person he chose to live forever with.. if you are both a million years in the making and he chose you and you chose him than you are both pretty special to each other without anything having to be said. That bond doesn't break easily.. especially if you had kids and rolled everything that you both are, into them..
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Both should feel equally loved n cared for. I'd cringe to say I love my SO more than my children/mom or the other way round though any of it is true. But yes...at the end you are to live with that one person. The ideal situation would be when the guy also loves the kids as much n understands we'll grow out of that phase (the neglecting part if he at all feels so)eventually. And I totally agree with leading by example part.
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by the time she's out of college. 80% of their marriages will fail. that is IF they get married. they most likely won't even.



everything you are doing with her, she's already done it with Chad, Tyrone and Don. maybe altogether. You will never be special.

love is lost in debaunchery indeed.
Blame the female mentality is strong with this one. Everyone knows it takes two to tango.
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The love and loyalty a dog has for its master.
YES.


It's so true though. Dogs are more loyal and steadfast than humans can ever aspire to be.
I CANT WAIT till I get my dogs back from the east coast.

Also congrats on the business deals happening! Way to hustle girl! =D
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Awww thanks. Your pups will love cali. Huntington Beach has a really great dog beach.
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by the time she's out of college. 80% of their marriages will fail. that is IF they get married. they most likely won't even.



everything you are doing with her, she's already done it with Chad, Tyrone and Don. maybe altogether. You will never be special.

love is lost in debaunchery indeed.
Blame the female mentality is strong with this one. Everyone knows it takes two to tango.


women file for divorce 80% of the time.



it's the female's choice. a lot of times at the expense of their children's mental health(statistical fact).





so a mother is not as great as everyone thinks. she would put her selfish priorities over her children's future.

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Lol you have no idea what your talking about.

As a product of a broken marriage myself, the best decision my parents ever made was to split up. Not only were they much happier they also stopped using their kids as pawns to win arguments.

Until you live a childhood with parents stuck in a toxic marriage you have nothing valid to say on the topic of divorce.
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by the time she's out of college. 80% of their marriages will fail. that is IF they get married. they most likely won't even.



everything you are doing with her, she's already done it with Chad, Tyrone and Don. maybe altogether. You will never be special.

love is lost in debaunchery indeed.
Blame the female mentality is strong with this one. Everyone knows it takes two to tango.


women file for divorce 80% of the time.



it's the female's choice. a lot of times at the expense of their children's mental health(statistical fact).





so a mother is not as great as everyone thinks. she would put her selfish priorities over her children's future.



Lol you have no idea what your talking about.

As a product of a broken marriage myself, the best decision my parents ever made was to split up. Not only were they much happier they also stopped using their kids as pawns to win arguments.

Until you live a childhood with parents stuck in a toxic marriage you have nothing valid to say on the topic of divorce.




you are being subjective. you didn't deconstruct my argument at all.



most fatherless children end up delinquent or with psychological issues or both. this is simply a fact.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2006/feb/21/mentalhealth.childrensservices



doubles the likelihood of psychological issues.



single family child delinquency

https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publications/abstract.aspx?ID=167327

these are facts that go beyond your single case scenerio. sorry. men lie. women lie. numbers don't lie.

this is a social experiement with concrete results. there's no point in debating this with your single case scenerio. especially considering how irrational you are

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"fatherless children" covers a wide range of senerios, not just divorce. Actually in many cases divorce is not even part of those statistics as the father is present. In many cases the child now has two fathers, two families.

Lol look at you skewing the results to fit your anti-female rhetoric.
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the modern female is not capable of true love because of her media conditioning



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by the time she's out of college. 80% of their marriages will fail. that is IF they get married. they most likely won't even.



everything you are doing with her, she's already done it with Chad, Tyrone and Don. maybe altogether. You will never be special.

love is lost in debaunchery indeed.
Blame the female mentality is strong with this one. Everyone knows it takes two to tango.


women file for divorce 80% of the time.



it's the female's choice. a lot of times at the expense of their children's mental health(statistical fact).





so a mother is not as great as everyone thinks. she would put her selfish priorities over her children's future.


Wow! I didn't leave until I realized the dynamic was toxic not only to me but my daughter. Appearance of anxiety and OCD symptoms because of the tension in the household & her father refused to participate in marriage counseling & counseling for his children! Kids are doing MUCH better due to the marriage being dissolved & issues addressed by their MOTHER!!! Not all mothers are good for their children & some are selfish but that does NOT mean you can make such a blanket statement & conclusions.

Women file for divorce because they are forced to usually! Men who won't deal with problems. Although my current bf is the opposite. He filed & dealt with the issue.


that sounds like excuses to me. women are experts are twisting the truth to fit their agenda.

once again, Women lie. You just like ladyneptune up there are irrational. this is positive proof that children without the father influence end up with psychological and behavioral issues.

even with the "supposed" negative effects of the father that you propose, the children in general still end up exponentially healthier mentally.



I simply do not believe you. sorry.
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Ah ha now I'm a poster child for the negative effects of divorce, am I? Lol look at you grasping for straws.
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by the time she's out of college. 80% of their marriages will fail. that is IF they get married. they most likely won't even.



everything you are doing with her, she's already done it with Chad, Tyrone and Don. maybe altogether. You will never be special.

love is lost in debaunchery indeed.
Blame the female mentality is strong with this one. Everyone knows it takes two to tango.


women file for divorce 80% of the time.



it's the female's choice. a lot of times at the expense of their children's mental health(statistical fact).





so a mother is not as great as everyone thinks. she would put her selfish priorities over her children's future.


Wow! I didn't leave until I realized the dynamic was toxic not only to me but my daughter. Appearance of anxiety and OCD symptoms because of the tension in the household & her father refused to participate in marriage counseling & counseling for his children! Kids are doing MUCH better due to the marriage being dissolved & issues addressed by their MOTHER!!! Not all mothers are good for their children & some are selfish but that does NOT mean you can make such a blanket statement & conclusions.

Women file for divorce because they are forced to usually! Men who won't deal with problems. Although my current bf is the opposite. He filed & dealt with the issue.
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Look DonJohn, another real life experience from someone who has lived it and isn't just talking out of their ass.
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the modern female is not capable of true love because of her media conditioning



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by the time she's out of college. 80% of their marriages will fail. that is IF they get married. they most likely won't even.



everything you are doing with her, she's already done it with Chad, Tyrone and Don. maybe altogether. You will never be special.

love is lost in debaunchery indeed.
Blame the female mentality is strong with this one. Everyone knows it takes two to tango.


women file for divorce 80% of the time.



it's the female's choice. a lot of times at the expense of their children's mental health(statistical fact).





so a mother is not as great as everyone thinks. she would put her selfish priorities over her children's future.


Wow! I didn't leave until I realized the dynamic was toxic not only to me but my daughter. Appearance of anxiety and OCD symptoms because of the tension in the household & her father refused to participate in marriage counseling & counseling for his children! Kids are doing MUCH better due to the marriage being dissolved & issues addressed by their MOTHER!!! Not all mothers are good for their children & some are selfish but that does NOT mean you can make such a blanket statement & conclusions.

Women file for divorce because they are forced to usually! Men who won't deal with problems. Although my current bf is the opposite. He filed & dealt with the issue.
Look DonJohn, another real life experience from someone who has lived it and isn't just talking out of their ass.


lmao 2 special snowflakes arguing their irrational subjective experience against the general consensus. it's like they don't understand exceptions don't make the rule.



i was speaking to single parenthood as a whole. i wasn't talking to either of you.



at the end of the day, the dynamic still stands.



80% of women initiate divorce. doesn't mean 20% of the men don't. for the most part, it's the woman's choice.



and guess what, the children are more likely to suffer from psychological issues due to the female's irrational choice as outlined by these 2 special snowflakes here.



if anything, you are proving me right. do you realize this? you are completely self-centered and irrational

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Tell me moooaaar

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the truth has already been told.



80% of women file for divorce.

single parenthood contributes to exponentially higher mental disorder and delinquency rates in children.

as proven in this thread, the women can only see things in a self-centered and irrational way.



it is what it is.



there's no point in us going back and forth about your snowflake life. go talk to a therapist. just LOL
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For anyone that is new to "love" (which often isn't the real thing but just the romantic chemical thing), just wait until you have experienced marriage and children long term, then come back and pass comment

Relationships can change drastically over the years and the meaning of love alters

When illness strikes or one person's feelings change to the other then your love for that person will be tested

I know a couple where the woman still loved the husband but "went off" him and they didn't have sex for four years. For three of those years, the lady was sick and sadly passed over. The man was faithful to her all of that time and when I asked how he managed that, he told me "because I loved her"

That is real love.
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Mother and child?


Yes the strongest for sure if the mother wanted the child and is mature enough.....otherwise the poor kid can then suffer

It's bollocks about kids not fairing well when parents separate though. Our son is streets ahead of his peers whose parents are together and not in good relationships together. They are doing drugs, booze and failing at school. Our lad does none of that stuff because he has a functional family life. He has just won a scholarship and is excelling in all he does. It's not whether the parents are together, it's how they communicate...I know that is stating the obvious but for those that think in terms of black and white......

One of his friends, her father is a cheater and the girl found out. She now hasn't spoken to him for months ...lost all respect for him

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For anyone that is new to "love" (which often isn't the real thing but just the romantic chemical thing), just wait until you have experienced marriage and children long term, then come back and pass comment

Relationships can change drastically over the years and the meaning of love alters

When illness strikes or one person's feelings change to the other then your love for that person will be tested

I know a couple where the woman still loved the husband but "went off" him and they didn't have sex for four years. For three of those years, the lady was sick and sadly passed over. The man was faithful to her all of that time and when I asked how he managed that, he told me "because I loved her"

That is real love.



I know ....what if your partner that you've been with for years gets in an accident, rendering them not fit for sex anymore?

people are gonna leave cause of that?



I have read around that SOME people NEED sex all the time, like a drug addict.

but what happens if that is taken away from them? they gonna leave the person?



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this is why the female is so easily programmed by the state. her mind is very vulnerable and emotional(irrational).

this is why the father influence in the household is absolutely critical.
Yep, we are all the mistresses of Satan since Eve took a bite out of that apple. ROTFL
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OR....we were all LILITHS ....but Eve took over,



and she's the BETTER version, more innocent. looks innocent, acts innocent, but still....a man's downfall.
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the modern female is not capable of true love because of her media conditioning



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by the time she's out of college. 80% of their marriages will fail. that is IF they get married. they most likely won't even.



everything you are doing with her, she's already done it with Chad, Tyrone and Don. maybe altogether. You will never be special.

love is lost in debaunchery indeed.
Blame the female mentality is strong with this one. Everyone knows it takes two to tango.


women file for divorce 80% of the time.



it's the female's choice. a lot of times at the expense of their children's mental health(statistical fact).





so a mother is not as great as everyone thinks. she would put her selfish priorities over her children's future.


Wow! I didn't leave until I realized the dynamic was toxic not only to me but my daughter. Appearance of anxiety and OCD symptoms because of the tension in the household & her father refused to participate in marriage counseling & counseling for his children! Kids are doing MUCH better due to the marriage being dissolved & issues addressed by their MOTHER!!! Not all mothers are good for their children & some are selfish but that does NOT mean you can make such a blanket statement & conclusions.

Women file for divorce because they are forced to usually! Men who won't deal with problems. Although my current bf is the opposite. He filed & dealt with the issue.
Look DonJohn, another real life experience from someone who has lived it and isn't just talking out of their ass.


lmao 2 special snowflakes arguing their irrational subjective experience against the general consensus. it's like they don't understand exceptions don't make the rule.



i was speaking to single parenthood as a whole. i wasn't talking to either of you.



at the end of the day, the dynamic still stands.



80% of women initiate divorce. doesn't mean 20% of the men don't. for the most part, it's the woman's choice.



and guess what, the children are more likely to suffer from psychological issues due to the female's irrational choice as outlined by these 2 special snowflakes here.



if anything, you are proving me right. do you realize this? you are completely self-centered and irrational


Tell me moooaaar

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this is why the female is so easily programmed by the state. her mind is very vulnerable and emotional(irrational).

this is why the father influence in the household is absolutely critical.
Yep, we are all the mistresses of Satan since Eve took a bite out of that apple. ROTFL


OR....we were all LILITHS ....but Eve took over,



and she's the BETTER version, more innocent. looks innocent, acts innocent, but still....a man's downfall.
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Women are weak men's downfall Lisa.....I have known strong ones not fall