Marriage is for men in 2023 (not women) (Page 6)

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Posted by nanochip

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Me trying to figure out what froggie and taniwha means.

Taniwha was his old name, now he’s walk_on_by
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Froggie is the former internet gf?

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I don’t think so. I think she wanted to be, but I guess she was 20 yr older than she said she was and married all along or some shit. Not sure the depth that it got to, but a lot of people have been in relationships with others they met on this site. Me included and it never turns out good. A lot of the time ending in a huge dirty laundry drama thread 👀

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Posted by __ixi__
I wonder what kind of beliefs does a person have to hold in order to feel threatened by feminism? I am genuinely curious.

The best I got is that the kind of guy who might feel threatened by the kind of world that is not as gender-defined fits a certain mold, picture this: They like the world being a certain way, like those old black-and-white movies where the men wear the suits, smoke the big cigars, and run the show. They are comfortable for several reasons being in a world where men and women have clear, distinct roles, and they don't have to question their own privileges, prejudices, or feelings.

Throw in newer concepts of inclusivity and intersectionalism and it's like you're asking him to watch a movie in 3D after a lifetime of 2D. Suddenly, there are layers and dimensions he's not used to dealing with, and it understandably could leave them wondering "Why are the rules changing? What does this mean for me?" It's like someone just told him their comfortable armchair is being replaced with an exercise ball. It might be better for his posture, but boy, is it going to feel different at first! It's that fear of change and the unknown that's really causing the discomfort.

Ixi, this is probably a post for another topic, but I’m thinking about what you said about men feeling threatened by a world without gender definition. I’ve spoken with quite a few Gen z recently at work and on an anonymous posting group that I’m apart of. We know that the world is changing in terms of how gender is viewed, and talking to gen z’ers it was interesting to hear what they had to say. I don’t know if these are the beliefs of radicals or not. But I was told by 2-3 in separate scenarios, that the goal would be to ultimately have so much gender ambiguity and lack of sexual dimorphism, that gender roles would crumble completely. The dumbed down version of my understanding, would be you literally could not tell who was a male or who was a female and thus the gender roles would cease to exist. That seems a little bit extreme, because many people are traditionally biologically attracted to the opposite gender for their masculine/feminine traits. I know you work in a school - not sure their ages - but have you heard about this? What do you think?
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Now THATS a bit too much. Sounds like a new world order

That’s why gen Z scares me because they take things to extremes

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I would agree, radicals are on both sides of the spectrum. I’m pretty far detached from wokeness and gen z in general, I don’t spend time on tik tok and honestly a lot of young people annoy me. I have nothing in common with a 20somethings anymore and my interactions with them are limited to work and online. Not be that controversial, but the gender thing is so different to any other generation and I do wonder if it is a trend for many because I have 35 year old people from my old high school suddenly being new genders and sexual orientations. I don’t know lol.

Most of the tranny enablers are millenials though. They're the real militant woke army.

They're also generally the loudest barking Marked people.

I thought us genXers were the generation the most brainwashed with progressism, but apparently we ended up just being apathetic and mesmerized. Directionless witnesses of the decline.

Millenials are real the political commissars and kapos of the extreme centre. The new world propaganda runs through their veins like the holy gospel.

I won't blame genZ for anything, they're idiotic and sheepishly follow big media into whatever combat they're guided to, but they're still too young to decide by themselves, and they might decide to revolt.

A lot of them will end up as grotesque exposition of meat, but in the end they'll be the first who have a real choice : either to fight to rebuild something out of rubble, or submit a bit longer.

Posted by nanochip


Benefits for men:

Companionship

Family

Financial gains

Career focus

Healthier life style

Domestic labor taken care of

Regular sex

Less risk taking

Emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere


Benefits for women:

Companionship

Family

—


The benefits for men quickly become the cons for women.


Then there is the inevitable divorce settlement.

I never met a man who actually had to pay alimony. My dad's been married 7 times across several states and never had to pay it, not even was it ever discussed. I grew up in the south where people get married like 5 times throughout their life and never saw it. I don't think this is very common. I could be wrong, but I think maybe this is mostly a risk for extremely wealthy men. Most men do not make that much money these days, they need their S.O to work out of economic necessity.


Many men want homemakers. Okay fine, I get it. Its nice to have someone doing all the boring tasks at home for you.... but homemakers are not independent by definition, and will most often require SPOUSAL support after divorce (we are still looking at an overwhelming 40-50% chance). That dependence and those domestic skills that were so appealing to men at first? Well, now they realize that it was all they had to offer. They become that object of resentment for men that we so often hear about. The vilified, evil hag of the ex wife who dedicated her life to serving up hamburger helper at 7pm every night, and took the children to soccer practices every Wednesday. Women will often be stay at home moms for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, sacrificing their independence and often their identity, and for what? To be tossed out after a divorce. No experience. No skills. No money. Nothing. And yet, somehow they have to figure out how to support their children in a safe and healthy environment, while returning to the work force for the first time in a decade or first time ever, making next to no money. It is an impossible task that they make happen somehow, despite all of the cards stacked against them. You may be thinking "Oh no there's child support for that!" Not always. There are many loopholes that allow men to avoid paying it and best believe they utilize them every way they can. One of my best friends chose to have 2 kids with a man who now evades child support with a series of under-the-table jobs spanning a decade at this point. This is not uncommon.


Men love to point out: "Women initiate 80-90% of divorce!" - Why do you think women are initiating it? I think its because we are at the height of mental and emotional health/awareness that there is just less tolerance for abuse/cheating/unhappiness in general. If that is not acceptable, then the list above would illustrate clearly that marriage benefits men far more than women. Even bad marriages.... So why would men want a divorce?!


I am laughing at the idea that marriage would have any kind of financial benefit to me and so many other women. A lot of women these days are working high paid jobs and it is unlikely their partner will make more money than them. So I am curious, what exactly is the benefit of marriage, to a woman? What am I missing here? Is it just a human experience we want to have, which is fleeting? Is it the ideation of a family, the promise of "forever", which doesn't particularly appeal to me given the current state of the world?


Looking at the list above, it looks so obvious, doesn't it? It even seems ironic that men would throw around the "unmarried cat-hoarding spinster" barbs. Marriage in 2023 is for you, men. Its yours. Embrace your inner golem and get ready to be chasing that ring down. Find a wife and treat her well. You have so much to gain from it.

sounds like you just want to be a baba.. marriage wasn't meant for y'all.. it only doesn't benefit ya.. babas

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Posted by Astrobyn

Posted by Enfant-Terrible-II

Posted by Astrobyn
Going on vacation tomorrow, below is a division of task/labor

My List

1. Checking the State Park page every day, to find a cancellation to an impossible to get Beach Camp site.

2. Makes List of activities/events/restaurants that are dog friendly

3. Take dog to Pet store to be fitted for a harness, to have better control, after he complains about other people’s dogs fucking with his dog.

4. Find and schedule House sitter.

5. Makes a camping checklist.

6. Purchases additional camping gear.

7. Organize and pack camp gear.

8. Create camp daily menu and grocery list.

9. Buy groceries.

10. Prep Meals (Marinate, Chop, portion)

11. Organize and pack groceries.

12. Pack Kids clothes, toys and beach gear.

13. Pack, Games, Puzzles, Art Supplies

14. Charge all Electronics & check batteries in all lights

15. Load Ice Chest

16. Pick up house before leaving.

Shit he's gonna do

1. Get Ice

2. Load Truck

Did he divide the assignments or did you just take it on yourself bc "otherwise it won't be done"? If you were seperated and he had the kid and was going on vacation, you don't think he would manage to pack for the occassion? What part do you play here really?


This reminds me of when women complain of men not helping around the house, which usually means "you should drop everything and do vacuum cleaning today because I feel it should be done today!" 🙄
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He is capable of doing all these things, in fact we just had a conversation 2 mins ago where he said "when are we going again? oh tomorrow, So I guess we need to get everything organized tonight then" But it is already done, because all of these things can be done in one night.


And because I know he will not do the vacuuming today, or anytime in the next two weeks. We hire a cleaning person, so I don't resent him, and stab him in his sleep.

So he didn't vacuum more than once or twice a month while he was single either?

Congratz on the family bliss. Ohh i remember when Robyn was a brooding goth Taurus (or that how I saw it) and now she's living the Stepford life picking up shit after her husband 😬

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We are all well into our 40's now, its time to stop sending dick pic's and do something with our lives.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand style /2019/may/25/women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert

Posted by Astrobyn

Posted by Enfant-Terrible-II

Posted by Astrobyn

Posted by Enfant-Terrible-II

Posted by Astrobyn
Going on vacation tomorrow, below is a division of task/labor

My List

1. Checking the State Park page every day, to find a cancellation to an impossible to get Beach Camp site.

2. Makes List of activities/events/restaurants that are dog friendly

3. Take dog to Pet store to be fitted for a harness, to have better control, after he complains about other people’s dogs fucking with his dog.

4. Find and schedule House sitter.

5. Makes a camping checklist.

6. Purchases additional camping gear.

7. Organize and pack camp gear.

8. Create camp daily menu and grocery list.

9. Buy groceries.

10. Prep Meals (Marinate, Chop, portion)

11. Organize and pack groceries.

12. Pack Kids clothes, toys and beach gear.

13. Pack, Games, Puzzles, Art Supplies

14. Charge all Electronics & check batteries in all lights

15. Load Ice Chest

16. Pick up house before leaving.

Shit he's gonna do

1. Get Ice

2. Load Truck

Did he divide the assignments or did you just take it on yourself bc "otherwise it won't be done"? If you were seperated and he had the kid and was going on vacation, you don't think he would manage to pack for the occassion? What part do you play here really?


This reminds me of when women complain of men not helping around the house, which usually means "you should drop everything and do vacuum cleaning today because I feel it should be done today!" 🙄
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He is capable of doing all these things, in fact we just had a conversation 2 mins ago where he said "when are we going again? oh tomorrow, So I guess we need to get everything organized tonight then" But it is already done, because all of these things can be done in one night.


And because I know he will not do the vacuuming today, or anytime in the next two weeks. We hire a cleaning person, so I don't resent him, and stab him in his sleep.

So he didn't vacuum more than once or twice a month while he was single either?


Congratz on the family bliss. Ohh i remember when Robyn was a brooding goth Taurus (or that how I saw it) and now she's living the Stepford life picking up shit after her husband 😬

We are all well into our 40's now, its time to stop sending dick pic's and do something with our lives.

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Now you're just being hurtful

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Benefits for men:

Companionship

Family

Financial gains

Career focus

Healthier life style

Domestic labor taken care of

Regular sex

Less risk taking

Emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere

Benefits for women:

Companionship

Family

—

The benefits for men quickly become the cons for women.

Then there is the inevitable divorce settlement.

I never met a man who actually had to pay alimony. My dad's been married 7 times across several states and never had to pay it, not even was it ever discussed. I grew up in the south where people get married like 5 times throughout their life and never saw it. I don't think this is very common. I could be wrong, but I think maybe this is mostly a risk for extremely wealthy men. Most men do not make that much money these days, they need their S.O to work out of economic necessity.

Many men want homemakers. Okay fine, I get it. Its nice to have someone doing all the boring tasks at home for you.... but homemakers are not independent by definition, and will most often require SPOUSAL support after divorce (we are still looking at an overwhelming 40-50% chance). That dependence and those domestic skills that were so appealing to men at first? Well, now they realize that it was all they had to offer. They become that object of resentment for men that we so often hear about. The vilified, evil hag of the ex wife who dedicated her life to serving up hamburger helper at 7pm every night, and took the children to soccer practices every Wednesday. Women will often be stay at home moms for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, sacrificing their independence and often their identity, and for what? To be tossed out after a divorce. No experience. No skills. No money. Nothing. And yet, somehow they have to figure out how to support their children in a safe and healthy environment, while returning to the work force for the first time in a decade or first time ever, making next to no money. It is an impossible task that they make happen somehow, despite all of the cards stacked against them. You may be thinking "Oh no there's child support for that!" Not always. There are many loopholes that allow men to avoid paying it and best believe they utilize them every way they can. One of my best friends chose to have 2 kids with a man who now evades child support with a series of under-the-table jobs spanning a decade at this point. This is not uncommon.

Men love to point out: "Women initiate 80-90% of divorce!" - Why do you think women are initiating it? I think its because we are at the height of mental and emotional health/awareness that there is just less tolerance for abuse/cheating/unhappiness in general. If that is not acceptable, then the list above would illustrate clearly that marriage benefits men far more than women. Even bad marriages.... So why would men want a divorce?!

I am laughing at the idea that marriage would have any kind of financial benefit to me and so many other women. A lot of women these days are working high paid jobs and it is unlikely their partner will make more money than them. So I am curious, what exactly is the benefit of marriage, to a woman? What am I missing here? Is it just a human experience we want to have, which is fleeting? Is it the ideation of a family, the promise of "forever", which doesn't particularly appeal to me given the current state of the world?

Looking at the list above, it looks so obvious, doesn't it? It even seems ironic that men would throw around the "unmarried cat-hoarding spinster" barbs. Marriage in 2023 is for you, men. Its yours. Embrace your inner golem and get ready to be chasing that ring down. Find a wife and treat her well. You have so much to gain from it.

sounds like you just want to be a baba.. marriage wasn't meant for y'all.. it only doesn't benefit ya.. babas

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No clue what a “baba” is. I’m sure it’s some kind of insult that I can’t give fck to google

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Benefits for men:

Companionship

Family

Financial gains

Career focus

Healthier life style

Domestic labor taken care of

Regular sex

Less risk taking

Emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere

Benefits for women:

Companionship

Family

—

The benefits for men quickly become the cons for women.

Then there is the inevitable divorce settlement.

I never met a man who actually had to pay alimony. My dad's been married 7 times across several states and never had to pay it, not even was it ever discussed. I grew up in the south where people get married like 5 times throughout their life and never saw it. I don't think this is very common. I could be wrong, but I think maybe this is mostly a risk for extremely wealthy men. Most men do not make that much money these days, they need their S.O to work out of economic necessity.

Many men want homemakers. Okay fine, I get it. Its nice to have someone doing all the boring tasks at home for you.... but homemakers are not independent by definition, and will most often require SPOUSAL support after divorce (we are still looking at an overwhelming 40-50% chance). That dependence and those domestic skills that were so appealing to men at first? Well, now they realize that it was all they had to offer. They become that object of resentment for men that we so often hear about. The vilified, evil hag of the ex wife who dedicated her life to serving up hamburger helper at 7pm every night, and took the children to soccer practices every Wednesday. Women will often be stay at home moms for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, sacrificing their independence and often their identity, and for what? To be tossed out after a divorce. No experience. No skills. No money. Nothing. And yet, somehow they have to figure out how to support their children in a safe and healthy environment, while returning to the work force for the first time in a decade or first time ever, making next to no money. It is an impossible task that they make happen somehow, despite all of the cards stacked against them. You may be thinking "Oh no there's child support for that!" Not always. There are many loopholes that allow men to avoid paying it and best believe they utilize them every way they can. One of my best friends chose to have 2 kids with a man who now evades child support with a series of under-the-table jobs spanning a decade at this point. This is not uncommon.

Men love to point out: "Women initiate 80-90% of divorce!" - Why do you think women are initiating it? I think its because we are at the height of mental and emotional health/awareness that there is just less tolerance for abuse/cheating/unhappiness in general. If that is not acceptable, then the list above would illustrate clearly that marriage benefits men far more than women. Even bad marriages.... So why would men want a divorce?!

I am laughing at the idea that marriage would have any kind of financial benefit to me and so many other women. A lot of women these days are working high paid jobs and it is unlikely their partner will make more money than them. So I am curious, what exactly is the benefit of marriage, to a woman? What am I missing here? Is it just a human experience we want to have, which is fleeting? Is it the ideation of a family, the promise of "forever", which doesn't particularly appeal to me given the current state of the world?

Looking at the list above, it looks so obvious, doesn't it? It even seems ironic that men would throw around the "unmarried cat-hoarding spinster" barbs. Marriage in 2023 is for you, men. Its yours. Embrace your inner golem and get ready to be chasing that ring down. Find a wife and treat her well. You have so much to gain from it.

sounds like you just want to be a baba.. marriage wasn't meant for y'all.. it only doesn't benefit ya.. babas

No clue what a “baba” is. I’m sure it’s some kind of insult that I can’t give fck to google

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it means a girl who isn't wife material.. if u want to bruk out.. if you wanna spread your wings in fly and be single, then be that.. don't start grabbing on the marriage ship to bring it down with you for whatever reason

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Benefits for men:

Companionship

Family

Financial gains

Career focus

Healthier life style

Domestic labor taken care of

Regular sex

Less risk taking

Emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere

Benefits for women:

Companionship

Family

—

The benefits for men quickly become the cons for women.

Then there is the inevitable divorce settlement.

I never met a man who actually had to pay alimony. My dad's been married 7 times across several states and never had to pay it, not even was it ever discussed. I grew up in the south where people get married like 5 times throughout their life and never saw it. I don't think this is very common. I could be wrong, but I think maybe this is mostly a risk for extremely wealthy men. Most men do not make that much money these days, they need their S.O to work out of economic necessity.

Many men want homemakers. Okay fine, I get it. Its nice to have someone doing all the boring tasks at home for you.... but homemakers are not independent by definition, and will most often require SPOUSAL support after divorce (we are still looking at an overwhelming 40-50% chance). That dependence and those domestic skills that were so appealing to men at first? Well, now they realize that it was all they had to offer. They become that object of resentment for men that we so often hear about. The vilified, evil hag of the ex wife who dedicated her life to serving up hamburger helper at 7pm every night, and took the children to soccer practices every Wednesday. Women will often be stay at home moms for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, sacrificing their independence and often their identity, and for what? To be tossed out after a divorce. No experience. No skills. No money. Nothing. And yet, somehow they have to figure out how to support their children in a safe and healthy environment, while returning to the work force for the first time in a decade or first time ever, making next to no money. It is an impossible task that they make happen somehow, despite all of the cards stacked against them. You may be thinking "Oh no there's child support for that!" Not always. There are many loopholes that allow men to avoid paying it and best believe they utilize them every way they can. One of my best friends chose to have 2 kids with a man who now evades child support with a series of under-the-table jobs spanning a decade at this point. This is not uncommon.

Men love to point out: "Women initiate 80-90% of divorce!" - Why do you think women are initiating it? I think its because we are at the height of mental and emotional health/awareness that there is just less tolerance for abuse/cheating/unhappiness in general. If that is not acceptable, then the list above would illustrate clearly that marriage benefits men far more than women. Even bad marriages.... So why would men want a divorce?!

I am laughing at the idea that marriage would have any kind of financial benefit to me and so many other women. A lot of women these days are working high paid jobs and it is unlikely their partner will make more money than them. So I am curious, what exactly is the benefit of marriage, to a woman? What am I missing here? Is it just a human experience we want to have, which is fleeting? Is it the ideation of a family, the promise of "forever", which doesn't particularly appeal to me given the current state of the world?

Looking at the list above, it looks so obvious, doesn't it? It even seems ironic that men would throw around the "unmarried cat-hoarding spinster" barbs. Marriage in 2023 is for you, men. Its yours. Embrace your inner golem and get ready to be chasing that ring down. Find a wife and treat her well. You have so much to gain from it.

sounds like you just want to be a baba.. marriage wasn't meant for y'all.. it only doesn't benefit ya.. babas

No clue what a “baba” is. I’m sure it’s some kind of insult that I can’t give fck to google
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it means a girl who isn't wife material.. if u want to bruk out.. if you wanna spread your wings in fly and be single, then be that.. don't start grabbing on the marriage ship to bring it down with you for whatever reason

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Oh hunnie you got 19 pages to catch up on about this wife material shit 💅🏼 I’ve literally run out of stamina. You’re way late to this party

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Benefits for men:

Companionship

Family

Financial gains

Career focus

Healthier life style

Domestic labor taken care of

Regular sex

Less risk taking

Emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere

Benefits for women:

Companionship

Family

—

The benefits for men quickly become the cons for women.

Then there is the inevitable divorce settlement.

I never met a man who actually had to pay alimony. My dad's been married 7 times across several states and never had to pay it, not even was it ever discussed. I grew up in the south where people get married like 5 times throughout their life and never saw it. I don't think this is very common. I could be wrong, but I think maybe this is mostly a risk for extremely wealthy men. Most men do not make that much money these days, they need their S.O to work out of economic necessity.

Many men want homemakers. Okay fine, I get it. Its nice to have someone doing all the boring tasks at home for you.... but homemakers are not independent by definition, and will most often require SPOUSAL support after divorce (we are still looking at an overwhelming 40-50% chance). That dependence and those domestic skills that were so appealing to men at first? Well, now they realize that it was all they had to offer. They become that object of resentment for men that we so often hear about. The vilified, evil hag of the ex wife who dedicated her life to serving up hamburger helper at 7pm every night, and took the children to soccer practices every Wednesday. Women will often be stay at home moms for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, sacrificing their independence and often their identity, and for what? To be tossed out after a divorce. No experience. No skills. No money. Nothing. And yet, somehow they have to figure out how to support their children in a safe and healthy environment, while returning to the work force for the first time in a decade or first time ever, making next to no money. It is an impossible task that they make happen somehow, despite all of the cards stacked against them. You may be thinking "Oh no there's child support for that!" Not always. There are many loopholes that allow men to avoid paying it and best believe they utilize them every way they can. One of my best friends chose to have 2 kids with a man who now evades child support with a series of under-the-table jobs spanning a decade at this point. This is not uncommon.

Men love to point out: "Women initiate 80-90% of divorce!" - Why do you think women are initiating it? I think its because we are at the height of mental and emotional health/awareness that there is just less tolerance for abuse/cheating/unhappiness in general. If that is not acceptable, then the list above would illustrate clearly that marriage benefits men far more than women. Even bad marriages.... So why would men want a divorce?!

I am laughing at the idea that marriage would have any kind of financial benefit to me and so many other women. A lot of women these days are working high paid jobs and it is unlikely their partner will make more money than them. So I am curious, what exactly is the benefit of marriage, to a woman? What am I missing here? Is it just a human experience we want to have, which is fleeting? Is it the ideation of a family, the promise of "forever", which doesn't particularly appeal to me given the current state of the world?

Looking at the list above, it looks so obvious, doesn't it? It even seems ironic that men would throw around the "unmarried cat-hoarding spinster" barbs. Marriage in 2023 is for you, men. Its yours. Embrace your inner golem and get ready to be chasing that ring down. Find a wife and treat her well. You have so much to gain from it.

sounds like you just want to be a baba.. marriage wasn't meant for y'all.. it only doesn't benefit ya.. babas

No clue what a “baba” is. I’m sure it’s some kind of insult that I can’t give fck to google
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it means a girl who isn't wife material.. if u want to bruk out.. if you wanna spread your wings in fly and be single, then be that.. don't start grabbing on the marriage ship to bring it down with you for whatever reason

Oh hunnie you got 19 pages to catch up on about this wife material shit 💅🏼 I’ve literally run out of stamina. You’re way late to this party

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listen all I'm saying is if you a baba then why are you worried about marriage? That's not for girls who want to be free. I think you like the glory marriage gives you that being single and a baba doesn't. There's a certain class and a certain expensiveness marriage has that being an a lot lizard doesn't.. And if you trick a dude to marrying you and you not a good girl you won't ever experience that true glory or that air.. You gotta surrender yourself but hey.. you girls think y'all god, that's the problem so.. as long as you keep thinking ya actually control the world messing with witchcraft and all types of shit.. you'll never be in a good marriage.

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Benefits for men:

Companionship

Family

Financial gains

Career focus

Healthier life style

Domestic labor taken care of

Regular sex

Less risk taking

Emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere

Benefits for women:

Companionship

Family

—

The benefits for men quickly become the cons for women.

Then there is the inevitable divorce settlement.

I never met a man who actually had to pay alimony. My dad's been married 7 times across several states and never had to pay it, not even was it ever discussed. I grew up in the south where people get married like 5 times throughout their life and never saw it. I don't think this is very common. I could be wrong, but I think maybe this is mostly a risk for extremely wealthy men. Most men do not make that much money these days, they need their S.O to work out of economic necessity.

Many men want homemakers. Okay fine, I get it. Its nice to have someone doing all the boring tasks at home for you.... but homemakers are not independent by definition, and will most often require SPOUSAL support after divorce (we are still looking at an overwhelming 40-50% chance). That dependence and those domestic skills that were so appealing to men at first? Well, now they realize that it was all they had to offer. They become that object of resentment for men that we so often hear about. The vilified, evil hag of the ex wife who dedicated her life to serving up hamburger helper at 7pm every night, and took the children to soccer practices every Wednesday. Women will often be stay at home moms for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, sacrificing their independence and often their identity, and for what? To be tossed out after a divorce. No experience. No skills. No money. Nothing. And yet, somehow they have to figure out how to support their children in a safe and healthy environment, while returning to the work force for the first time in a decade or first time ever, making next to no money. It is an impossible task that they make happen somehow, despite all of the cards stacked against them. You may be thinking "Oh no there's child support for that!" Not always. There are many loopholes that allow men to avoid paying it and best believe they utilize them every way they can. One of my best friends chose to have 2 kids with a man who now evades child support with a series of under-the-table jobs spanning a decade at this point. This is not uncommon.

Men love to point out: "Women initiate 80-90% of divorce!" - Why do you think women are initiating it? I think its because we are at the height of mental and emotional health/awareness that there is just less tolerance for abuse/cheating/unhappiness in general. If that is not acceptable, then the list above would illustrate clearly that marriage benefits men far more than women. Even bad marriages.... So why would men want a divorce?!

I am laughing at the idea that marriage would have any kind of financial benefit to me and so many other women. A lot of women these days are working high paid jobs and it is unlikely their partner will make more money than them. So I am curious, what exactly is the benefit of marriage, to a woman? What am I missing here? Is it just a human experience we want to have, which is fleeting? Is it the ideation of a family, the promise of "forever", which doesn't particularly appeal to me given the current state of the world?

Looking at the list above, it looks so obvious, doesn't it? It even seems ironic that men would throw around the "unmarried cat-hoarding spinster" barbs. Marriage in 2023 is for you, men. Its yours. Embrace your inner golem and get ready to be chasing that ring down. Find a wife and treat her well. You have so much to gain from it.

sounds like you just want to be a baba.. marriage wasn't meant for y'all.. it only doesn't benefit ya.. babas

No clue what a “baba” is. I’m sure it’s some kind of insult that I can’t give fck to google
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it means a girl who isn't wife material.. if u want to bruk out.. if you wanna spread your wings in fly and be single, then be that.. don't start grabbing on the marriage ship to bring it down with you for whatever reason

Oh hunnie you got 19 pages to catch up on about this wife material shit 💅🏼 I’ve literally run out of stamina. You’re way late to this party

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And I don't even wanna look at 19 pages worth of shit. I'm talking to you and you only. Stop actin tough, you not a guy, that means its ok to be a good person, you're a girl. Be that. That's all imma say

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Going on vacation tomorrow, below is a division of task/labor

My List

1. Checking the State Park page every day, to find a cancellation to an impossible to get Beach Camp site.

2. Makes List of activities/events/restaurants that are dog friendly

3. Take dog to Pet store to be fitted for a harness, to have better control, after he complains about other people’s dogs fucking with his dog.

4. Find and schedule House sitter.

5. Makes a camping checklist.

6. Purchases additional camping gear.

7. Organize and pack camp gear.

8. Create camp daily menu and grocery list.

9. Buy groceries.

10. Prep Meals (Marinate, Chop, portion)

11. Organize and pack groceries.

12. Pack Kids clothes, toys and beach gear.

13. Pack, Games, Puzzles, Art Supplies

14. Charge all Electronics & check batteries in all lights

15. Load Ice Chest

16. Pick up house before leaving.

Shit he's gonna do

1. Get Ice

2. Load Truck

Did he divide the assignments or did you just take it on yourself bc "otherwise it won't be done"? If you were seperated and he had the kid and was going on vacation, you don't think he would manage to pack for the occassion? What part do you play here really?


This reminds me of when women complain of men not helping around the house, which usually means "you should drop everything and do vacuum cleaning today because I feel it should be done today!" 🙄
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He is capable of doing all these things, in fact we just had a conversation 2 mins ago where he said "when are we going again? oh tomorrow, So I guess we need to get everything organized tonight then" But it is already done, because all of these things can be done in one night.


And because I know he will not do the vacuuming today, or anytime in the next two weeks. We hire a cleaning person, so I don't resent him, and stab him in his sleep.

So he didn't vacuum more than once or twice a month while he was single either?



Congratz on the family bliss. Ohh i remember when Robyn was a brooding goth Taurus (or that how I saw it) and now she's living the Stepford life picking up shit after her husband 😬

We are all well into our 40's now, its time to stop sending dick pic's and do something with our lives.

Now you're just being hurtful

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Its just my goth vibes

Posted by route666aybb
listen all I'm saying is if you a baba then why are you worried about marriage? That's not for girls who want to be free. I think you like the glory marriage gives you that being single and a baba doesn't. There's a certain class and a certain expensiveness marriage has that being an a lot lizard doesn't.. And if you trick a dude to marrying you and you not a good girl you won't ever experience that true glory or that air.. You gotta surrender yourself but hey.. you girls think y'all god, that's the problem so.. as long as you keep thinking ya actually control the world messing with witchcraft and all types of shit.. you'll never be in a good marriage.

There's something true here, marriage isn't for everybody, especially in the times we're living. It requires a certain amount of involvment and effort.

Most people nowadays should just accept by default that they won't get married rather than think by default that they'll end up married eventually.

there are more things keeping people apart than things bringing people together. It requires : personal involvment, "expensiveness" like the person above said(not just monetary, but as a whole), and respecting social decorum.

All people die alone.

Posted by FUCKTHISLIFE

Don’t experience love, don’t experience having kids, die alone

Hmm?

Posted by FUCKTHISLIFE

Jump

Posted by hydorah

Posted by route666aybb
listen all I'm saying is if you a baba then why are you worried about marriage? That's not for girls who want to be free. I think you like the glory marriage gives you that being single and a baba doesn't. There's a certain class and a certain expensiveness marriage has that being an a lot lizard doesn't.. And if you trick a dude to marrying you and you not a good girl you won't ever experience that true glory or that air.. You gotta surrender yourself but hey.. you girls think y'all god, that's the problem so.. as long as you keep thinking ya actually control the world messing with witchcraft and all types of shit.. you'll never be in a good marriage.

There's something true here, marriage isn't for everybody, especially in the times we're living. It requires a certain amount of involvment and effort.
Most people nowadays should just accept by default that they won't get married rather than think by default that they'll end up married eventually.
there are more things keeping people apart than things bringing people together. It requires : personal involvment, "expensiveness" like the person above said(not just monetary, but as a whole), and respecting social decorum.

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True. At the end of the day most girls are forever in that baby demonic stage and I've known a lot who died that way and never got to level up mentally.. they done had the material gains, the physical gains.. but the moral gains were always fleeting.

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Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Benefits for men:

Companionship

Family

Financial gains

Career focus

Healthier life style

Domestic labor taken care of

Regular sex

Less risk taking

Emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere

Benefits for women:

Companionship

Family

—

The benefits for men quickly become the cons for women.

Then there is the inevitable divorce settlement.

I never met a man who actually had to pay alimony. My dad's been married 7 times across several states and never had to pay it, not even was it ever discussed. I grew up in the south where people get married like 5 times throughout their life and never saw it. I don't think this is very common. I could be wrong, but I think maybe this is mostly a risk for extremely wealthy men. Most men do not make that much money these days, they need their S.O to work out of economic necessity.

Many men want homemakers. Okay fine, I get it. Its nice to have someone doing all the boring tasks at home for you.... but homemakers are not independent by definition, and will most often require SPOUSAL support after divorce (we are still looking at an overwhelming 40-50% chance). That dependence and those domestic skills that were so appealing to men at first? Well, now they realize that it was all they had to offer. They become that object of resentment for men that we so often hear about. The vilified, evil hag of the ex wife who dedicated her life to serving up hamburger helper at 7pm every night, and took the children to soccer practices every Wednesday. Women will often be stay at home moms for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, sacrificing their independence and often their identity, and for what? To be tossed out after a divorce. No experience. No skills. No money. Nothing. And yet, somehow they have to figure out how to support their children in a safe and healthy environment, while returning to the work force for the first time in a decade or first time ever, making next to no money. It is an impossible task that they make happen somehow, despite all of the cards stacked against them. You may be thinking "Oh no there's child support for that!" Not always. There are many loopholes that allow men to avoid paying it and best believe they utilize them every way they can. One of my best friends chose to have 2 kids with a man who now evades child support with a series of under-the-table jobs spanning a decade at this point. This is not uncommon.

Men love to point out: "Women initiate 80-90% of divorce!" - Why do you think women are initiating it? I think its because we are at the height of mental and emotional health/awareness that there is just less tolerance for abuse/cheating/unhappiness in general. If that is not acceptable, then the list above would illustrate clearly that marriage benefits men far more than women. Even bad marriages.... So why would men want a divorce?!

I am laughing at the idea that marriage would have any kind of financial benefit to me and so many other women. A lot of women these days are working high paid jobs and it is unlikely their partner will make more money than them. So I am curious, what exactly is the benefit of marriage, to a woman? What am I missing here? Is it just a human experience we want to have, which is fleeting? Is it the ideation of a family, the promise of "forever", which doesn't particularly appeal to me given the current state of the world?

Looking at the list above, it looks so obvious, doesn't it? It even seems ironic that men would throw around the "unmarried cat-hoarding spinster" barbs. Marriage in 2023 is for you, men. Its yours. Embrace your inner golem and get ready to be chasing that ring down. Find a wife and treat her well. You have so much to gain from it.

sounds like you just want to be a baba.. marriage wasn't meant for y'all.. it only doesn't benefit ya.. babas

No clue what a “baba” is. I’m sure it’s some kind of insult that I can’t give fck to google
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it means a girl who isn't wife material.. if u want to bruk out.. if you wanna spread your wings in fly and be single, then be that.. don't start grabbing on the marriage ship to bring it down with you for whatever reason

Oh hunnie you got 19 pages to catch up on about this wife material shit 💅🏼 I’ve literally run out of stamina. You’re way late to this party
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listen all I'm saying is if you a baba then why are you worried about marriage? That's not for girls who want to be free. I think you like the glory marriage gives you that being single and a baba doesn't. There's a certain class and a certain expensiveness marriage has that being an a lot lizard doesn't.. And if you trick a dude to marrying you and you not a good girl you won't ever experience that true glory or that air.. You gotta surrender yourself but hey.. you girls think y'all god, that's the problem so.. as long as you keep thinking ya actually control the world messing with witchcraft and all types of shit.. you'll never be in a good marriage.

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I am ALWAYS a good girl

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Benefits for men:

Companionship

Family

Financial gains

Career focus

Healthier life style

Domestic labor taken care of

Regular sex

Less risk taking

Emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere

Benefits for women:

Companionship

Family

—

The benefits for men quickly become the cons for women.

Then there is the inevitable divorce settlement.

I never met a man who actually had to pay alimony. My dad's been married 7 times across several states and never had to pay it, not even was it ever discussed. I grew up in the south where people get married like 5 times throughout their life and never saw it. I don't think this is very common. I could be wrong, but I think maybe this is mostly a risk for extremely wealthy men. Most men do not make that much money these days, they need their S.O to work out of economic necessity.

Many men want homemakers. Okay fine, I get it. Its nice to have someone doing all the boring tasks at home for you.... but homemakers are not independent by definition, and will most often require SPOUSAL support after divorce (we are still looking at an overwhelming 40-50% chance). That dependence and those domestic skills that were so appealing to men at first? Well, now they realize that it was all they had to offer. They become that object of resentment for men that we so often hear about. The vilified, evil hag of the ex wife who dedicated her life to serving up hamburger helper at 7pm every night, and took the children to soccer practices every Wednesday. Women will often be stay at home moms for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, sacrificing their independence and often their identity, and for what? To be tossed out after a divorce. No experience. No skills. No money. Nothing. And yet, somehow they have to figure out how to support their children in a safe and healthy environment, while returning to the work force for the first time in a decade or first time ever, making next to no money. It is an impossible task that they make happen somehow, despite all of the cards stacked against them. You may be thinking "Oh no there's child support for that!" Not always. There are many loopholes that allow men to avoid paying it and best believe they utilize them every way they can. One of my best friends chose to have 2 kids with a man who now evades child support with a series of under-the-table jobs spanning a decade at this point. This is not uncommon.

Men love to point out: "Women initiate 80-90% of divorce!" - Why do you think women are initiating it? I think its because we are at the height of mental and emotional health/awareness that there is just less tolerance for abuse/cheating/unhappiness in general. If that is not acceptable, then the list above would illustrate clearly that marriage benefits men far more than women. Even bad marriages.... So why would men want a divorce?!

I am laughing at the idea that marriage would have any kind of financial benefit to me and so many other women. A lot of women these days are working high paid jobs and it is unlikely their partner will make more money than them. So I am curious, what exactly is the benefit of marriage, to a woman? What am I missing here? Is it just a human experience we want to have, which is fleeting? Is it the ideation of a family, the promise of "forever", which doesn't particularly appeal to me given the current state of the world?

Looking at the list above, it looks so obvious, doesn't it? It even seems ironic that men would throw around the "unmarried cat-hoarding spinster" barbs. Marriage in 2023 is for you, men. Its yours. Embrace your inner golem and get ready to be chasing that ring down. Find a wife and treat her well. You have so much to gain from it.

sounds like you just want to be a baba.. marriage wasn't meant for y'all.. it only doesn't benefit ya.. babas

No clue what a “baba” is. I’m sure it’s some kind of insult that I can’t give fck to google
click to expand

it means a girl who isn't wife material.. if u want to bruk out.. if you wanna spread your wings in fly and be single, then be that.. don't start grabbing on the marriage ship to bring it down with you for whatever reason

Oh hunnie you got 19 pages to catch up on about this wife material shit 💅🏼 I’ve literally run out of stamina. You’re way late to this party
click to expand

listen all I'm saying is if you a baba then why are you worried about marriage? That's not for girls who want to be free. I think you like the glory marriage gives you that being single and a baba doesn't. There's a certain class and a certain expensiveness marriage has that being an a lot lizard doesn't.. And if you trick a dude to marrying you and you not a good girl you won't ever experience that true glory or that air.. You gotta surrender yourself but hey.. you girls think y'all god, that's the problem so.. as long as you keep thinking ya actually control the world messing with witchcraft and all types of shit.. you'll never be in a good marriage.

I am ALWAYS a good girl

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a good girl meaning deep deep deep deep deep deep deep down you're a good girl.. a good person.. are you truly .. or are you a good girl according to society's standards on some sometimes you ain't sometimes you is type shit? in order for magic to work you gotta be totally pure, either pure evil or pure good. There ain't no middle ground. It's all about intentions. If shit ain't working then you got shadow work to do. It's really that simple. Most girls die not doing proper shadow work regardless of how successful they is.. There's a lot of girls I know that's married and not happy. The ones who are happy have truly found God aka good. Since God is good. Find God and he/she/it will help you but if you already did then do your thing but I'm telling you life ain't a game frfr. It'll show you if you keep playing with it

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Benefits for men:

Companionship

Family

Financial gains

Career focus

Healthier life style

Domestic labor taken care of

Regular sex

Less risk taking

Emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere

Benefits for women:

Companionship

Family

—

The benefits for men quickly become the cons for women.

Then there is the inevitable divorce settlement.

I never met a man who actually had to pay alimony. My dad's been married 7 times across several states and never had to pay it, not even was it ever discussed. I grew up in the south where people get married like 5 times throughout their life and never saw it. I don't think this is very common. I could be wrong, but I think maybe this is mostly a risk for extremely wealthy men. Most men do not make that much money these days, they need their S.O to work out of economic necessity.

Many men want homemakers. Okay fine, I get it. Its nice to have someone doing all the boring tasks at home for you.... but homemakers are not independent by definition, and will most often require SPOUSAL support after divorce (we are still looking at an overwhelming 40-50% chance). That dependence and those domestic skills that were so appealing to men at first? Well, now they realize that it was all they had to offer. They become that object of resentment for men that we so often hear about. The vilified, evil hag of the ex wife who dedicated her life to serving up hamburger helper at 7pm every night, and took the children to soccer practices every Wednesday. Women will often be stay at home moms for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, sacrificing their independence and often their identity, and for what? To be tossed out after a divorce. No experience. No skills. No money. Nothing. And yet, somehow they have to figure out how to support their children in a safe and healthy environment, while returning to the work force for the first time in a decade or first time ever, making next to no money. It is an impossible task that they make happen somehow, despite all of the cards stacked against them. You may be thinking "Oh no there's child support for that!" Not always. There are many loopholes that allow men to avoid paying it and best believe they utilize them every way they can. One of my best friends chose to have 2 kids with a man who now evades child support with a series of under-the-table jobs spanning a decade at this point. This is not uncommon.

Men love to point out: "Women initiate 80-90% of divorce!" - Why do you think women are initiating it? I think its because we are at the height of mental and emotional health/awareness that there is just less tolerance for abuse/cheating/unhappiness in general. If that is not acceptable, then the list above would illustrate clearly that marriage benefits men far more than women. Even bad marriages.... So why would men want a divorce?!

I am laughing at the idea that marriage would have any kind of financial benefit to me and so many other women. A lot of women these days are working high paid jobs and it is unlikely their partner will make more money than them. So I am curious, what exactly is the benefit of marriage, to a woman? What am I missing here? Is it just a human experience we want to have, which is fleeting? Is it the ideation of a family, the promise of "forever", which doesn't particularly appeal to me given the current state of the world?

Looking at the list above, it looks so obvious, doesn't it? It even seems ironic that men would throw around the "unmarried cat-hoarding spinster" barbs. Marriage in 2023 is for you, men. Its yours. Embrace your inner golem and get ready to be chasing that ring down. Find a wife and treat her well. You have so much to gain from it.

sounds like you just want to be a baba.. marriage wasn't meant for y'all.. it only doesn't benefit ya.. babas

No clue what a “baba” is. I’m sure it’s some kind of insult that I can’t give fck to google
click to expand

it means a girl who isn't wife material.. if u want to bruk out.. if you wanna spread your wings in fly and be single, then be that.. don't start grabbing on the marriage ship to bring it down with you for whatever reason

Oh hunnie you got 19 pages to catch up on about this wife material shit 💅🏼 I’ve literally run out of stamina. You’re way late to this party
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listen all I'm saying is if you a baba then why are you worried about marriage? That's not for girls who want to be free. I think you like the glory marriage gives you that being single and a baba doesn't. There's a certain class and a certain expensiveness marriage has that being an a lot lizard doesn't.. And if you trick a dude to marrying you and you not a good girl you won't ever experience that true glory or that air.. You gotta surrender yourself but hey.. you girls think y'all god, that's the problem so.. as long as you keep thinking ya actually control the world messing with witchcraft and all types of shit.. you'll never be in a good marriage.

I am ALWAYS a good girl
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a good girl meaning deep deep deep deep deep deep deep down you're a good girl.. a good person.. are you truly .. or are you a good girl according to society's standards on some sometimes you ain't sometimes you is type shit? in order for magic to work you gotta be totally pure, either pure evil or pure good. There ain't no middle ground. It's all about intentions. If shit ain't working then you got shadow work to do. It's really that simple. Most girls die not doing proper shadow work regardless of how successful they is.. There's a lot of girls I know that's married and not happy. The ones who are happy have truly found God aka good. Since God is good. Find God and he/she/it will help you but if you already did then do your thing but I'm telling you life ain't a game frfr. It'll show you if you keep playing with it

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I think I just found jazzydad 😅

@jazzykid

Posted by Basic

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Benefits for men:

Companionship

Family

Financial gains

Career focus

Healthier life style

Domestic labor taken care of

Regular sex

Less risk taking

Emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere

Benefits for women:

Companionship

Family

—

The benefits for men quickly become the cons for women.

Then there is the inevitable divorce settlement.

I never met a man who actually had to pay alimony. My dad's been married 7 times across several states and never had to pay it, not even was it ever discussed. I grew up in the south where people get married like 5 times throughout their life and never saw it. I don't think this is very common. I could be wrong, but I think maybe this is mostly a risk for extremely wealthy men. Most men do not make that much money these days, they need their S.O to work out of economic necessity.

Many men want homemakers. Okay fine, I get it. Its nice to have someone doing all the boring tasks at home for you.... but homemakers are not independent by definition, and will most often require SPOUSAL support after divorce (we are still looking at an overwhelming 40-50% chance). That dependence and those domestic skills that were so appealing to men at first? Well, now they realize that it was all they had to offer. They become that object of resentment for men that we so often hear about. The vilified, evil hag of the ex wife who dedicated her life to serving up hamburger helper at 7pm every night, and took the children to soccer practices every Wednesday. Women will often be stay at home moms for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, sacrificing their independence and often their identity, and for what? To be tossed out after a divorce. No experience. No skills. No money. Nothing. And yet, somehow they have to figure out how to support their children in a safe and healthy environment, while returning to the work force for the first time in a decade or first time ever, making next to no money. It is an impossible task that they make happen somehow, despite all of the cards stacked against them. You may be thinking "Oh no there's child support for that!" Not always. There are many loopholes that allow men to avoid paying it and best believe they utilize them every way they can. One of my best friends chose to have 2 kids with a man who now evades child support with a series of under-the-table jobs spanning a decade at this point. This is not uncommon.

Men love to point out: "Women initiate 80-90% of divorce!" - Why do you think women are initiating it? I think its because we are at the height of mental and emotional health/awareness that there is just less tolerance for abuse/cheating/unhappiness in general. If that is not acceptable, then the list above would illustrate clearly that marriage benefits men far more than women. Even bad marriages.... So why would men want a divorce?!

I am laughing at the idea that marriage would have any kind of financial benefit to me and so many other women. A lot of women these days are working high paid jobs and it is unlikely their partner will make more money than them. So I am curious, what exactly is the benefit of marriage, to a woman? What am I missing here? Is it just a human experience we want to have, which is fleeting? Is it the ideation of a family, the promise of "forever", which doesn't particularly appeal to me given the current state of the world?

Looking at the list above, it looks so obvious, doesn't it? It even seems ironic that men would throw around the "unmarried cat-hoarding spinster" barbs. Marriage in 2023 is for you, men. Its yours. Embrace your inner golem and get ready to be chasing that ring down. Find a wife and treat her well. You have so much to gain from it.

sounds like you just want to be a baba.. marriage wasn't meant for y'all.. it only doesn't benefit ya.. babas

No clue what a “baba” is. I’m sure it’s some kind of insult that I can’t give fck to google
click to expand

it means a girl who isn't wife material.. if u want to bruk out.. if you wanna spread your wings in fly and be single, then be that.. don't start grabbing on the marriage ship to bring it down with you for whatever reason

Oh hunnie you got 19 pages to catch up on about this wife material shit 💅🏼 I’ve literally run out of stamina. You’re way late to this party
click to expand

listen all I'm saying is if you a baba then why are you worried about marriage? That's not for girls who want to be free. I think you like the glory marriage gives you that being single and a baba doesn't. There's a certain class and a certain expensiveness marriage has that being an a lot lizard doesn't.. And if you trick a dude to marrying you and you not a good girl you won't ever experience that true glory or that air.. You gotta surrender yourself but hey.. you girls think y'all god, that's the problem so.. as long as you keep thinking ya actually control the world messing with witchcraft and all types of shit.. you'll never be in a good marriage.

I am ALWAYS a good girl
click to expand

a good girl meaning deep deep deep deep deep deep deep down you're a good girl.. a good person.. are you truly .. or are you a good girl according to society's standards on some sometimes you ain't sometimes you is type shit? in order for magic to work you gotta be totally pure, either pure evil or pure good. There ain't no middle ground. It's all about intentions. If shit ain't working then you got shadow work to do. It's really that simple. Most girls die not doing proper shadow work regardless of how successful they is.. There's a lot of girls I know that's married and not happy. The ones who are happy have truly found God aka good. Since God is good. Find God and he/she/it will help you but if you already did then do your thing but I'm telling you life ain't a game frfr. It'll show you if you keep playing with it

I think I just found jazzydad 😅

@jazzykid

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uhoh here comes the comedians.. im out

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by Basic

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Benefits for men:

Companionship

Family

Financial gains

Career focus

Healthier life style

Domestic labor taken care of

Regular sex

Less risk taking

Emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere

Benefits for women:

Companionship

Family

—

The benefits for men quickly become the cons for women.

Then there is the inevitable divorce settlement.

I never met a man who actually had to pay alimony. My dad's been married 7 times across several states and never had to pay it, not even was it ever discussed. I grew up in the south where people get married like 5 times throughout their life and never saw it. I don't think this is very common. I could be wrong, but I think maybe this is mostly a risk for extremely wealthy men. Most men do not make that much money these days, they need their S.O to work out of economic necessity.

Many men want homemakers. Okay fine, I get it. Its nice to have someone doing all the boring tasks at home for you.... but homemakers are not independent by definition, and will most often require SPOUSAL support after divorce (we are still looking at an overwhelming 40-50% chance). That dependence and those domestic skills that were so appealing to men at first? Well, now they realize that it was all they had to offer. They become that object of resentment for men that we so often hear about. The vilified, evil hag of the ex wife who dedicated her life to serving up hamburger helper at 7pm every night, and took the children to soccer practices every Wednesday. Women will often be stay at home moms for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, sacrificing their independence and often their identity, and for what? To be tossed out after a divorce. No experience. No skills. No money. Nothing. And yet, somehow they have to figure out how to support their children in a safe and healthy environment, while returning to the work force for the first time in a decade or first time ever, making next to no money. It is an impossible task that they make happen somehow, despite all of the cards stacked against them. You may be thinking "Oh no there's child support for that!" Not always. There are many loopholes that allow men to avoid paying it and best believe they utilize them every way they can. One of my best friends chose to have 2 kids with a man who now evades child support with a series of under-the-table jobs spanning a decade at this point. This is not uncommon.

Men love to point out: "Women initiate 80-90% of divorce!" - Why do you think women are initiating it? I think its because we are at the height of mental and emotional health/awareness that there is just less tolerance for abuse/cheating/unhappiness in general. If that is not acceptable, then the list above would illustrate clearly that marriage benefits men far more than women. Even bad marriages.... So why would men want a divorce?!

I am laughing at the idea that marriage would have any kind of financial benefit to me and so many other women. A lot of women these days are working high paid jobs and it is unlikely their partner will make more money than them. So I am curious, what exactly is the benefit of marriage, to a woman? What am I missing here? Is it just a human experience we want to have, which is fleeting? Is it the ideation of a family, the promise of "forever", which doesn't particularly appeal to me given the current state of the world?

Looking at the list above, it looks so obvious, doesn't it? It even seems ironic that men would throw around the "unmarried cat-hoarding spinster" barbs. Marriage in 2023 is for you, men. Its yours. Embrace your inner golem and get ready to be chasing that ring down. Find a wife and treat her well. You have so much to gain from it.

sounds like you just want to be a baba.. marriage wasn't meant for y'all.. it only doesn't benefit ya.. babas

No clue what a “baba” is. I’m sure it’s some kind of insult that I can’t give fck to google
click to expand

it means a girl who isn't wife material.. if u want to bruk out.. if you wanna spread your wings in fly and be single, then be that.. don't start grabbing on the marriage ship to bring it down with you for whatever reason

Oh hunnie you got 19 pages to catch up on about this wife material shit 💅🏼 I’ve literally run out of stamina. You’re way late to this party
click to expand

listen all I'm saying is if you a baba then why are you worried about marriage? That's not for girls who want to be free. I think you like the glory marriage gives you that being single and a baba doesn't. There's a certain class and a certain expensiveness marriage has that being an a lot lizard doesn't.. And if you trick a dude to marrying you and you not a good girl you won't ever experience that true glory or that air.. You gotta surrender yourself but hey.. you girls think y'all god, that's the problem so.. as long as you keep thinking ya actually control the world messing with witchcraft and all types of shit.. you'll never be in a good marriage.

I am ALWAYS a good girl
click to expand

a good girl meaning deep deep deep deep deep deep deep down you're a good girl.. a good person.. are you truly .. or are you a good girl according to society's standards on some sometimes you ain't sometimes you is type shit? in order for magic to work you gotta be totally pure, either pure evil or pure good. There ain't no middle ground. It's all about intentions. If shit ain't working then you got shadow work to do. It's really that simple. Most girls die not doing proper shadow work regardless of how successful they is.. There's a lot of girls I know that's married and not happy. The ones who are happy have truly found God aka good. Since God is good. Find God and he/she/it will help you but if you already did then do your thing but I'm telling you life ain't a game frfr. It'll show you if you keep playing with it

I think I just found jazzydad 😅


@jazzykid

uhoh here comes the comedians.. im out

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Godspeed baba

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Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Benefits for men:

Companionship

Family

Financial gains

Career focus

Healthier life style

Domestic labor taken care of

Regular sex

Less risk taking

Emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere

Benefits for women:

Companionship

Family

—

The benefits for men quickly become the cons for women.

Then there is the inevitable divorce settlement.

I never met a man who actually had to pay alimony. My dad's been married 7 times across several states and never had to pay it, not even was it ever discussed. I grew up in the south where people get married like 5 times throughout their life and never saw it. I don't think this is very common. I could be wrong, but I think maybe this is mostly a risk for extremely wealthy men. Most men do not make that much money these days, they need their S.O to work out of economic necessity.

Many men want homemakers. Okay fine, I get it. Its nice to have someone doing all the boring tasks at home for you.... but homemakers are not independent by definition, and will most often require SPOUSAL support after divorce (we are still looking at an overwhelming 40-50% chance). That dependence and those domestic skills that were so appealing to men at first? Well, now they realize that it was all they had to offer. They become that object of resentment for men that we so often hear about. The vilified, evil hag of the ex wife who dedicated her life to serving up hamburger helper at 7pm every night, and took the children to soccer practices every Wednesday. Women will often be stay at home moms for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, sacrificing their independence and often their identity, and for what? To be tossed out after a divorce. No experience. No skills. No money. Nothing. And yet, somehow they have to figure out how to support their children in a safe and healthy environment, while returning to the work force for the first time in a decade or first time ever, making next to no money. It is an impossible task that they make happen somehow, despite all of the cards stacked against them. You may be thinking "Oh no there's child support for that!" Not always. There are many loopholes that allow men to avoid paying it and best believe they utilize them every way they can. One of my best friends chose to have 2 kids with a man who now evades child support with a series of under-the-table jobs spanning a decade at this point. This is not uncommon.

Men love to point out: "Women initiate 80-90% of divorce!" - Why do you think women are initiating it? I think its because we are at the height of mental and emotional health/awareness that there is just less tolerance for abuse/cheating/unhappiness in general. If that is not acceptable, then the list above would illustrate clearly that marriage benefits men far more than women. Even bad marriages.... So why would men want a divorce?!

I am laughing at the idea that marriage would have any kind of financial benefit to me and so many other women. A lot of women these days are working high paid jobs and it is unlikely their partner will make more money than them. So I am curious, what exactly is the benefit of marriage, to a woman? What am I missing here? Is it just a human experience we want to have, which is fleeting? Is it the ideation of a family, the promise of "forever", which doesn't particularly appeal to me given the current state of the world?

Looking at the list above, it looks so obvious, doesn't it? It even seems ironic that men would throw around the "unmarried cat-hoarding spinster" barbs. Marriage in 2023 is for you, men. Its yours. Embrace your inner golem and get ready to be chasing that ring down. Find a wife and treat her well. You have so much to gain from it.

sounds like you just want to be a baba.. marriage wasn't meant for y'all.. it only doesn't benefit ya.. babas

No clue what a “baba” is. I’m sure it’s some kind of insult that I can’t give fck to google
click to expand

it means a girl who isn't wife material.. if u want to bruk out.. if you wanna spread your wings in fly and be single, then be that.. don't start grabbing on the marriage ship to bring it down with you for whatever reason

Oh hunnie you got 19 pages to catch up on about this wife material shit 💅🏼 I’ve literally run out of stamina. You’re way late to this party
click to expand

listen all I'm saying is if you a baba then why are you worried about marriage? That's not for girls who want to be free. I think you like the glory marriage gives you that being single and a baba doesn't. There's a certain class and a certain expensiveness marriage has that being an a lot lizard doesn't.. And if you trick a dude to marrying you and you not a good girl you won't ever experience that true glory or that air.. You gotta surrender yourself but hey.. you girls think y'all god, that's the problem so.. as long as you keep thinking ya actually control the world messing with witchcraft and all types of shit.. you'll never be in a good marriage.

I am ALWAYS a good girl
click to expand

a good girl meaning deep deep deep deep deep deep deep down you're a good girl.. a good person.. are you truly .. or are you a good girl according to society's standards on some sometimes you ain't sometimes you is type shit? in order for magic to work you gotta be totally pure, either pure evil or pure good. There ain't no middle ground. It's all about intentions. If shit ain't working then you got shadow work to do. It's really that simple. Most girls die not doing proper shadow work regardless of how successful they is.. There's a lot of girls I know that's married and not happy. The ones who are happy have truly found God aka good. Since God is good. Find God and he/she/it will help you but if you already did then do your thing but I'm telling you life ain't a game frfr. It'll show you if you keep playing with it

I think I just found jazzydad 😅

@jazzykid

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I’m an immaculate conception. 🎉

Posted by jazzykid

Posted by Basic

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Benefits for men:

Companionship

Family

Financial gains

Career focus

Healthier life style

Domestic labor taken care of

Regular sex

Less risk taking

Emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere

Benefits for women:

Companionship

Family

—

The benefits for men quickly become the cons for women.

Then there is the inevitable divorce settlement.

I never met a man who actually had to pay alimony. My dad's been married 7 times across several states and never had to pay it, not even was it ever discussed. I grew up in the south where people get married like 5 times throughout their life and never saw it. I don't think this is very common. I could be wrong, but I think maybe this is mostly a risk for extremely wealthy men. Most men do not make that much money these days, they need their S.O to work out of economic necessity.

Many men want homemakers. Okay fine, I get it. Its nice to have someone doing all the boring tasks at home for you.... but homemakers are not independent by definition, and will most often require SPOUSAL support after divorce (we are still looking at an overwhelming 40-50% chance). That dependence and those domestic skills that were so appealing to men at first? Well, now they realize that it was all they had to offer. They become that object of resentment for men that we so often hear about. The vilified, evil hag of the ex wife who dedicated her life to serving up hamburger helper at 7pm every night, and took the children to soccer practices every Wednesday. Women will often be stay at home moms for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, sacrificing their independence and often their identity, and for what? To be tossed out after a divorce. No experience. No skills. No money. Nothing. And yet, somehow they have to figure out how to support their children in a safe and healthy environment, while returning to the work force for the first time in a decade or first time ever, making next to no money. It is an impossible task that they make happen somehow, despite all of the cards stacked against them. You may be thinking "Oh no there's child support for that!" Not always. There are many loopholes that allow men to avoid paying it and best believe they utilize them every way they can. One of my best friends chose to have 2 kids with a man who now evades child support with a series of under-the-table jobs spanning a decade at this point. This is not uncommon.

Men love to point out: "Women initiate 80-90% of divorce!" - Why do you think women are initiating it? I think its because we are at the height of mental and emotional health/awareness that there is just less tolerance for abuse/cheating/unhappiness in general. If that is not acceptable, then the list above would illustrate clearly that marriage benefits men far more than women. Even bad marriages.... So why would men want a divorce?!

I am laughing at the idea that marriage would have any kind of financial benefit to me and so many other women. A lot of women these days are working high paid jobs and it is unlikely their partner will make more money than them. So I am curious, what exactly is the benefit of marriage, to a woman? What am I missing here? Is it just a human experience we want to have, which is fleeting? Is it the ideation of a family, the promise of "forever", which doesn't particularly appeal to me given the current state of the world?

Looking at the list above, it looks so obvious, doesn't it? It even seems ironic that men would throw around the "unmarried cat-hoarding spinster" barbs. Marriage in 2023 is for you, men. Its yours. Embrace your inner golem and get ready to be chasing that ring down. Find a wife and treat her well. You have so much to gain from it.

sounds like you just want to be a baba.. marriage wasn't meant for y'all.. it only doesn't benefit ya.. babas

No clue what a “baba” is. I’m sure it’s some kind of insult that I can’t give fck to google
click to expand

it means a girl who isn't wife material.. if u want to bruk out.. if you wanna spread your wings in fly and be single, then be that.. don't start grabbing on the marriage ship to bring it down with you for whatever reason

Oh hunnie you got 19 pages to catch up on about this wife material shit 💅🏼 I’ve literally run out of stamina. You’re way late to this party
click to expand

listen all I'm saying is if you a baba then why are you worried about marriage? That's not for girls who want to be free. I think you like the glory marriage gives you that being single and a baba doesn't. There's a certain class and a certain expensiveness marriage has that being an a lot lizard doesn't.. And if you trick a dude to marrying you and you not a good girl you won't ever experience that true glory or that air.. You gotta surrender yourself but hey.. you girls think y'all god, that's the problem so.. as long as you keep thinking ya actually control the world messing with witchcraft and all types of shit.. you'll never be in a good marriage.

I am ALWAYS a good girl
click to expand

a good girl meaning deep deep deep deep deep deep deep down you're a good girl.. a good person.. are you truly .. or are you a good girl according to society's standards on some sometimes you ain't sometimes you is type shit? in order for magic to work you gotta be totally pure, either pure evil or pure good. There ain't no middle ground. It's all about intentions. If shit ain't working then you got shadow work to do. It's really that simple. Most girls die not doing proper shadow work regardless of how successful they is.. There's a lot of girls I know that's married and not happy. The ones who are happy have truly found God aka good. Since God is good. Find God and he/she/it will help you but if you already did then do your thing but I'm telling you life ain't a game frfr. It'll show you if you keep playing with it

I think I just found jazzydad 😅


@jazzykid

I’m an immaculate conception. 🎉

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Powerful prayer + baba- ing = jazzy conception

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Posted by route666aybb

Posted by Basic

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Benefits for men:

Companionship

Family

Financial gains

Career focus

Healthier life style

Domestic labor taken care of

Regular sex

Less risk taking

Emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere

Benefits for women:

Companionship

Family

—

The benefits for men quickly become the cons for women.

Then there is the inevitable divorce settlement.

I never met a man who actually had to pay alimony. My dad's been married 7 times across several states and never had to pay it, not even was it ever discussed. I grew up in the south where people get married like 5 times throughout their life and never saw it. I don't think this is very common. I could be wrong, but I think maybe this is mostly a risk for extremely wealthy men. Most men do not make that much money these days, they need their S.O to work out of economic necessity.

Many men want homemakers. Okay fine, I get it. Its nice to have someone doing all the boring tasks at home for you.... but homemakers are not independent by definition, and will most often require SPOUSAL support after divorce (we are still looking at an overwhelming 40-50% chance). That dependence and those domestic skills that were so appealing to men at first? Well, now they realize that it was all they had to offer. They become that object of resentment for men that we so often hear about. The vilified, evil hag of the ex wife who dedicated her life to serving up hamburger helper at 7pm every night, and took the children to soccer practices every Wednesday. Women will often be stay at home moms for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, sacrificing their independence and often their identity, and for what? To be tossed out after a divorce. No experience. No skills. No money. Nothing. And yet, somehow they have to figure out how to support their children in a safe and healthy environment, while returning to the work force for the first time in a decade or first time ever, making next to no money. It is an impossible task that they make happen somehow, despite all of the cards stacked against them. You may be thinking "Oh no there's child support for that!" Not always. There are many loopholes that allow men to avoid paying it and best believe they utilize them every way they can. One of my best friends chose to have 2 kids with a man who now evades child support with a series of under-the-table jobs spanning a decade at this point. This is not uncommon.

Men love to point out: "Women initiate 80-90% of divorce!" - Why do you think women are initiating it? I think its because we are at the height of mental and emotional health/awareness that there is just less tolerance for abuse/cheating/unhappiness in general. If that is not acceptable, then the list above would illustrate clearly that marriage benefits men far more than women. Even bad marriages.... So why would men want a divorce?!

I am laughing at the idea that marriage would have any kind of financial benefit to me and so many other women. A lot of women these days are working high paid jobs and it is unlikely their partner will make more money than them. So I am curious, what exactly is the benefit of marriage, to a woman? What am I missing here? Is it just a human experience we want to have, which is fleeting? Is it the ideation of a family, the promise of "forever", which doesn't particularly appeal to me given the current state of the world?

Looking at the list above, it looks so obvious, doesn't it? It even seems ironic that men would throw around the "unmarried cat-hoarding spinster" barbs. Marriage in 2023 is for you, men. Its yours. Embrace your inner golem and get ready to be chasing that ring down. Find a wife and treat her well. You have so much to gain from it.

sounds like you just want to be a baba.. marriage wasn't meant for y'all.. it only doesn't benefit ya.. babas

No clue what a “baba” is. I’m sure it’s some kind of insult that I can’t give fck to google
click to expand

it means a girl who isn't wife material.. if u want to bruk out.. if you wanna spread your wings in fly and be single, then be that.. don't start grabbing on the marriage ship to bring it down with you for whatever reason

Oh hunnie you got 19 pages to catch up on about this wife material shit 💅🏼 I’ve literally run out of stamina. You’re way late to this party
click to expand

listen all I'm saying is if you a baba then why are you worried about marriage? That's not for girls who want to be free. I think you like the glory marriage gives you that being single and a baba doesn't. There's a certain class and a certain expensiveness marriage has that being an a lot lizard doesn't.. And if you trick a dude to marrying you and you not a good girl you won't ever experience that true glory or that air.. You gotta surrender yourself but hey.. you girls think y'all god, that's the problem so.. as long as you keep thinking ya actually control the world messing with witchcraft and all types of shit.. you'll never be in a good marriage.

I am ALWAYS a good girl
click to expand

a good girl meaning deep deep deep deep deep deep deep down you're a good girl.. a good person.. are you truly .. or are you a good girl according to society's standards on some sometimes you ain't sometimes you is type shit? in order for magic to work you gotta be totally pure, either pure evil or pure good. There ain't no middle ground. It's all about intentions. If shit ain't working then you got shadow work to do. It's really that simple. Most girls die not doing proper shadow work regardless of how successful they is.. There's a lot of girls I know that's married and not happy. The ones who are happy have truly found God aka good. Since God is good. Find God and he/she/it will help you but if you already did then do your thing but I'm telling you life ain't a game frfr. It'll show you if you keep playing with it

I think I just found jazzydad 😅



@jazzykid

uhoh here comes the comedians.. im out

Godspeed baba

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idek u .. why you mad like.. u corny smd I'm gone

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by Basic

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Benefits for men:

Companionship

Family

Financial gains

Career focus

Healthier life style

Domestic labor taken care of

Regular sex

Less risk taking

Emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere

Benefits for women:

Companionship

Family

—

The benefits for men quickly become the cons for women.

Then there is the inevitable divorce settlement.

I never met a man who actually had to pay alimony. My dad's been married 7 times across several states and never had to pay it, not even was it ever discussed. I grew up in the south where people get married like 5 times throughout their life and never saw it. I don't think this is very common. I could be wrong, but I think maybe this is mostly a risk for extremely wealthy men. Most men do not make that much money these days, they need their S.O to work out of economic necessity.

Many men want homemakers. Okay fine, I get it. Its nice to have someone doing all the boring tasks at home for you.... but homemakers are not independent by definition, and will most often require SPOUSAL support after divorce (we are still looking at an overwhelming 40-50% chance). That dependence and those domestic skills that were so appealing to men at first? Well, now they realize that it was all they had to offer. They become that object of resentment for men that we so often hear about. The vilified, evil hag of the ex wife who dedicated her life to serving up hamburger helper at 7pm every night, and took the children to soccer practices every Wednesday. Women will often be stay at home moms for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, sacrificing their independence and often their identity, and for what? To be tossed out after a divorce. No experience. No skills. No money. Nothing. And yet, somehow they have to figure out how to support their children in a safe and healthy environment, while returning to the work force for the first time in a decade or first time ever, making next to no money. It is an impossible task that they make happen somehow, despite all of the cards stacked against them. You may be thinking "Oh no there's child support for that!" Not always. There are many loopholes that allow men to avoid paying it and best believe they utilize them every way they can. One of my best friends chose to have 2 kids with a man who now evades child support with a series of under-the-table jobs spanning a decade at this point. This is not uncommon.

Men love to point out: "Women initiate 80-90% of divorce!" - Why do you think women are initiating it? I think its because we are at the height of mental and emotional health/awareness that there is just less tolerance for abuse/cheating/unhappiness in general. If that is not acceptable, then the list above would illustrate clearly that marriage benefits men far more than women. Even bad marriages.... So why would men want a divorce?!

I am laughing at the idea that marriage would have any kind of financial benefit to me and so many other women. A lot of women these days are working high paid jobs and it is unlikely their partner will make more money than them. So I am curious, what exactly is the benefit of marriage, to a woman? What am I missing here? Is it just a human experience we want to have, which is fleeting? Is it the ideation of a family, the promise of "forever", which doesn't particularly appeal to me given the current state of the world?

Looking at the list above, it looks so obvious, doesn't it? It even seems ironic that men would throw around the "unmarried cat-hoarding spinster" barbs. Marriage in 2023 is for you, men. Its yours. Embrace your inner golem and get ready to be chasing that ring down. Find a wife and treat her well. You have so much to gain from it.

sounds like you just want to be a baba.. marriage wasn't meant for y'all.. it only doesn't benefit ya.. babas

No clue what a “baba” is. I’m sure it’s some kind of insult that I can’t give fck to google
click to expand

it means a girl who isn't wife material.. if u want to bruk out.. if you wanna spread your wings in fly and be single, then be that.. don't start grabbing on the marriage ship to bring it down with you for whatever reason

Oh hunnie you got 19 pages to catch up on about this wife material shit 💅🏼 I’ve literally run out of stamina. You’re way late to this party
click to expand

listen all I'm saying is if you a baba then why are you worried about marriage? That's not for girls who want to be free. I think you like the glory marriage gives you that being single and a baba doesn't. There's a certain class and a certain expensiveness marriage has that being an a lot lizard doesn't.. And if you trick a dude to marrying you and you not a good girl you won't ever experience that true glory or that air.. You gotta surrender yourself but hey.. you girls think y'all god, that's the problem so.. as long as you keep thinking ya actually control the world messing with witchcraft and all types of shit.. you'll never be in a good marriage.

I am ALWAYS a good girl
click to expand

a good girl meaning deep deep deep deep deep deep deep down you're a good girl.. a good person.. are you truly .. or are you a good girl according to society's standards on some sometimes you ain't sometimes you is type shit? in order for magic to work you gotta be totally pure, either pure evil or pure good. There ain't no middle ground. It's all about intentions. If shit ain't working then you got shadow work to do. It's really that simple. Most girls die not doing proper shadow work regardless of how successful they is.. There's a lot of girls I know that's married and not happy. The ones who are happy have truly found God aka good. Since God is good. Find God and he/she/it will help you but if you already did then do your thing but I'm telling you life ain't a game frfr. It'll show you if you keep playing with it

I think I just found jazzydad 😅


@jazzykid
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uhoh here comes the comedians.. im out

click to expand

They’re worth staying for 😂

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by Basic

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by Basic

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Posted by route666aybb

Posted by nanochip

Benefits for men:

Companionship

Family

Financial gains

Career focus

Healthier life style

Domestic labor taken care of

Regular sex

Less risk taking

Emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere

Benefits for women:

Companionship

Family

—

The benefits for men quickly become the cons for women.

Then there is the inevitable divorce settlement.

I never met a man who actually had to pay alimony. My dad's been married 7 times across several states and never had to pay it, not even was it ever discussed. I grew up in the south where people get married like 5 times throughout their life and never saw it. I don't think this is very common. I could be wrong, but I think maybe this is mostly a risk for extremely wealthy men. Most men do not make that much money these days, they need their S.O to work out of economic necessity.

Many men want homemakers. Okay fine, I get it. Its nice to have someone doing all the boring tasks at home for you.... but homemakers are not independent by definition, and will most often require SPOUSAL support after divorce (we are still looking at an overwhelming 40-50% chance). That dependence and those domestic skills that were so appealing to men at first? Well, now they realize that it was all they had to offer. They become that object of resentment for men that we so often hear about. The vilified, evil hag of the ex wife who dedicated her life to serving up hamburger helper at 7pm every night, and took the children to soccer practices every Wednesday. Women will often be stay at home moms for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, sacrificing their independence and often their identity, and for what? To be tossed out after a divorce. No experience. No skills. No money. Nothing. And yet, somehow they have to figure out how to support their children in a safe and healthy environment, while returning to the work force for the first time in a decade or first time ever, making next to no money. It is an impossible task that they make happen somehow, despite all of the cards stacked against them. You may be thinking "Oh no there's child support for that!" Not always. There are many loopholes that allow men to avoid paying it and best believe they utilize them every way they can. One of my best friends chose to have 2 kids with a man who now evades child support with a series of under-the-table jobs spanning a decade at this point. This is not uncommon.

Men love to point out: "Women initiate 80-90% of divorce!" - Why do you think women are initiating it? I think its because we are at the height of mental and emotional health/awareness that there is just less tolerance for abuse/cheating/unhappiness in general. If that is not acceptable, then the list above would illustrate clearly that marriage benefits men far more than women. Even bad marriages.... So why would men want a divorce?!

I am laughing at the idea that marriage would have any kind of financial benefit to me and so many other women. A lot of women these days are working high paid jobs and it is unlikely their partner will make more money than them. So I am curious, what exactly is the benefit of marriage, to a woman? What am I missing here? Is it just a human experience we want to have, which is fleeting? Is it the ideation of a family, the promise of "forever", which doesn't particularly appeal to me given the current state of the world?

Looking at the list above, it looks so obvious, doesn't it? It even seems ironic that men would throw around the "unmarried cat-hoarding spinster" barbs. Marriage in 2023 is for you, men. Its yours. Embrace your inner golem and get ready to be chasing that ring down. Find a wife and treat her well. You have so much to gain from it.

sounds like you just want to be a baba.. marriage wasn't meant for y'all.. it only doesn't benefit ya.. babas

No clue what a “baba” is. I’m sure it’s some kind of insult that I can’t give fck to google
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it means a girl who isn't wife material.. if u want to bruk out.. if you wanna spread your wings in fly and be single, then be that.. don't start grabbing on the marriage ship to bring it down with you for whatever reason

Oh hunnie you got 19 pages to catch up on about this wife material shit 💅🏼 I’ve literally run out of stamina. You’re way late to this party
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listen all I'm saying is if you a baba then why are you worried about marriage? That's not for girls who want to be free. I think you like the glory marriage gives you that being single and a baba doesn't. There's a certain class and a certain expensiveness marriage has that being an a lot lizard doesn't.. And if you trick a dude to marrying you and you not a good girl you won't ever experience that true glory or that air.. You gotta surrender yourself but hey.. you girls think y'all god, that's the problem so.. as long as you keep thinking ya actually control the world messing with witchcraft and all types of shit.. you'll never be in a good marriage.

I am ALWAYS a good girl
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a good girl meaning deep deep deep deep deep deep deep down you're a good girl.. a good person.. are you truly .. or are you a good girl according to society's standards on some sometimes you ain't sometimes you is type shit? in order for magic to work you gotta be totally pure, either pure evil or pure good. There ain't no middle ground. It's all about intentions. If shit ain't working then you got shadow work to do. It's really that simple. Most girls die not doing proper shadow work regardless of how successful they is.. There's a lot of girls I know that's married and not happy. The ones who are happy have truly found God aka good. Since God is good. Find God and he/she/it will help you but if you already did then do your thing but I'm telling you life ain't a game frfr. It'll show you if you keep playing with it

I think I just found jazzydad 😅



@jazzykid

uhoh here comes the comedians.. im out

Godspeed baba
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idek u .. why you mad like.. u corny smd I'm gone

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You got shadow work to do. If you triggered by ands you got shadow work to do. Deep deep deep nasolabial folds. Some people die without doing shadow work baba! I know girls lots of married girls they not happy baba they not happy! God is good good is god! Life is game fr fr if you play it like all games you win some and you lose some.

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I haven't seen the documentary you mentioned, but I think the fundamental question of "what is a woman?" is something that society as a whole is still grappling with, as it extends beyond biological attributes to cultural, social, and personal identities. It's like trying to define what makes a wine "great" - it can be quite subjective and multifaceted.


So perhaps, a bit of open-mindedness and a willingness to learn could make these conversations less crazy-making for you and more perspective-widening.

A woman is a person born of the female SEX.

GENDER is a social construct and doesn't ultimately mean anything.

A person born of the female sex is probably more inclined toward certain types of behaviour and traits due to hormonal differences that seperate them from their male counterparts, though failing to meet said behaviour och expectations in those areas doesn't magically make one the opposite sex, or gender dysphoric.

Also the gender craze of the last few years is a cultural disease and not actual gender dysphoria. Very few people have that condition, it is extremely rare and why wouldn't it be - from a biological evolutionary standpoint it makes no sense a person should feel "not at home" in their biological sex. It is by all definitions a handicap.

Not saying we should condemn the condition, but encouraging it as something normal and healthy rather than calling it what is is - which is abnormal - is kind of sick, and reflects the societal and cultural collapse we find ourself in.

Shadow work sounds hard. Can I just pay someone to do that—

He had me already at “deep deep deep nasolabial folds”

Posted by nanochip
Shadow work sounds hard. Can I just pay someone to do that—

I think jazzy dad was offering shadow work lessons 😅

"By this understanding, a woman is not necessarily a person born of the female sex but could be anyone who identifies as a woman."

uhh nope

and maybe it's best that you do watch 'what is a woman?" with matt walsh

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I have time today so I will respond I'll start by first breaking down the argument into its main assertions and examining each:

"A woman is a person born of the female sex."

This assertion is based on a traditional understanding of sex and gender as being the same. However, modern understanding recognizes a difference between sex, which is biological and determined by physical characteristics, and gender, which is a personal and societal construct tied to identity and roles. By this understanding, a woman is not necessarily a person born of the female sex but could be anyone who identifies as a woman.

So what is a woman?

What do they identify as when they identify as women?

@__ixi__ You know I'm surprised you haven't seen "What Is A Woman" since you preach "open-mindedness and a willingness to learn" but it seems to only go one direction: your willingness to learn is purely masturbatory in nature.

I don't have time to go through your entire response right now but I will go through it tomorrow.

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"By this understanding, a woman is not necessarily a person born of the female sex but could be anyone who identifies as a woman."


uhh nope


and maybe it's best that you do watch 'what is a woman?" with matt walsh

*When everyone lost their minds*

(Thankfully not all of us)

3A www.google.ie &source_ve_path=Mjg2NjY&feature=emb_logo

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Posted by virgoOPPP
"By this understanding, a woman is not necessarily a person born of the female sex but could be anyone who identifies as a woman."

uhh nope

and maybe it's best that you do watch 'what is a woman?" with matt walsh

*When everyone lost their minds*

(Thankfully not all of us)

Do you respect Matt Walsh ?

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I don’t know enough about him …

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Posted by virgoOPPP
"By this understanding, a woman is not necessarily a person born of the female sex but could be anyone who identifies as a woman."

uhh nope

and maybe it's best that you do watch 'what is a woman?" with matt walsh

*When everyone lost their minds*

(Thankfully not all of us)

Man posing as a woman competing and beating young girls at a skateboarding competition

Wow..

I definitely don’t think marriage is worth it unless it greatly benefits you. I also think it helps bring in kids in a wholesome environment.

I personally hate that I’m a hopeless romantic and can’t really control it and for some reason always wanted lots of kids (turns out I’m the type who doesn’t like kids except my own 🤷‍♀️). Life’s already so mundane. It’s nice to be able to create your own little bubble with your own little family sometimes.

1. Citizenship

2. 50/50 split when he’s richer than you

3. Taxes

4. Power of attorney

5. Ward off pilleated woodpeckers and general yard maintenance

Posted by __ixi__

"A woman is a person born of the female sex."

This assertion is based on a traditional understanding of sex and gender as being the same. However, modern understanding recognizes a difference between sex, which is biological and determined by physical characteristics, and gender, which is a personal and societal construct tied to identity and roles. By this understanding, a woman is not necessarily a person born of the female sex but could be anyone who identifies as a woman.

How do you feel about Lia Thomas? Should we indiscriminately accept her gender identity at the expence of biolgoical women in women’s sports? I mean how can we both accept her identity and not let her compete in women’s sports? We can’t. Clearly everyone sees how utterly insane and absurd it is to have the world spin around one person’s subjective reality. It’s the literal definition of an insane asylum with patients running the show.

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"GENDER is a social construct and doesn't ultimately mean anything."

Yes, gender is a social construct, much like money, law, or even society itself, and so it certainly does mean a lot. The assertion that gender doesn't mean anything undermines the lived experiences of people around the world. The concept of gender influences personal identity, social roles, relationships, and power dynamics in society. Moreover, it's also crucial in understanding and combating gender-based discrimination. All of those categories are as real in a social sense as gravity.

Money and law is not an identity, so there goes that argument. Also, sex still exists regardless of mental gymnastics, or whether we assign value to it or not.

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"Also the gender craze of the last few years is a cultural disease and not actual gender dysphoria."

The acceptance and visibility of diverse gender identities are not a "craze" or a "disease," but a long overdue recognition of human diversity which has existed and was due to ignorance labeled as socially and civically deviant. Labeling it as such belittles the struggles of people who don't fit into binary categories. In terms of gender dysphoria, it's a real condition characterized by distress due to a mismatch between one's gender identity and assigned sex at birth, but it's not the same as being transgender. Not all transgender individuals experience gender dysphoria.

Ok but what is that mismatch rooted in? Since traditional “gender” roles have been thrown out the window and there are no particular sets of behaviours or feelings that are ascribed or forced onto men and women respectively, and anyone can do as they please: professionally, socially, emotionally, mentally, intellectually, etc. what exactly is your gender rooted in? What is your identity based on? Lipstick and eye-shadow?

Your birth sex isn’t limiting you in any way since it doesn’t actually come with a set of social cues or requirements (“gender”) anymore

and no one will tell you that as a man you have to be or act according to A,B,Z. The gender aspect is completely obsolete. You can be a biologically male nurse, act vulnerable, show emotions, dress as a woman, have low testosterone.. and you are stilll a man. And that’s ok BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT A MAN IS TOO.

Your biological sex does not in any way shape or form stand in the way of how you choose to express yourself or what you do

So where lies the problem? That some people like doing mental cosplay with outdated terms.

The definition of gender fluidity, or saying there are thousands of different genders, is literally the same as saying there are no genders. It’s an accomplishment in itself to create division in a time of tolerance and acceptance where we just got rid of all the toxicity related to label in question.

“Gender dysphoria” however is a real condition. No beef there. Though it’s a criminally outdated term. It should be re-labelled as “sex dysphoria” because by all accounts, that’s what it is.





On gender dysphoria being a cultural fad, “social disease” etc. and also acknowledging the actual condition in case you thought they wouldn’t because of your own prejudices

Posted by __ixi__

"...from a biological evolutionary standpoint it makes no sense a person should feel "not at home" in their biological sex. It is by all definitions a handicap."

This argument leans heavily on biological determinism and misunderstands how evolution works. Evolution doesn't only favor traits that align neatly with a binary understanding of sex. Moreover, evolution doesn't operate with a sense of purpose or direction; it's a process of adaptation to current circumstances. Defining diverse gender identities as a "handicap" is both disrespectful and inaccurate.

You are correct as I am sure the gender craze of the last few years is due to evolutionary boredom. There was no room for gender confusion around the campfire during hunter-gatherer times just as there is no clinical depression in war-zones.

Half-kidding aisde, yes, evolution and biology has always had room for diversity and for ‘things abnormal’ to ensure survival. Evolution casts nets widely that way, no argument there. But it is one thing acknowledging something as abnormal yet perfectly acceptable/tolerable, and something else normalizing it and calling it “normal”. Not everything can be normal.

Posted by __ixi__

"Not saying we should condemn the condition, but encouraging it as something normal and healthy rather than calling it what is is - which is abnormal - is kind of sick, and reflects the societal and cultural collapse we find ourselves in."

This assertion implies that diverse gender identities are something abnormal and harmful. However, societal norms have evolved and will continue to evolve. What was considered abnormal in the past, like women voting or same-sex marriage, is now seen as perfectly normal and right. Such evolution doesn't reflect societal collapse but progress towards equality, diversity, and acceptance. Furthermore, suggesting that acknowledging and supporting diverse identities is "sick" is a deeply harmful rhetoric that contributes to discrimination and prejudice.

Anything that requires surgery or medical treatment is by definition a consequence of something “sick”, or unwell in the body or the mind. I’m not ascribing it any moral value, I’m looking at it stricktly clinically. So when you say I’m being harmful it’s like telling the surgeon who removes your penis he’s being harmful. It is just a matter of fact. Being born in the wrong sex is not healthy, is it? Why else have the surgery to “fix it” to get healthy?

And no, nothing has evolved. Everything is going in cycles. We’ve been here before countless times, historically and culturally speaking.

Posted by __ixi__

One thing I hope you learn is that the practice and exercise in discernment in what sources you choose to engage with is an important part of being open-minded. Open-mindedness isn't about consuming all information indiscriminately which you seem to try to chide folks over. It's about being willing to consider new perspectives and ideas critically, which I do.

My choice not to engage with a source known for promoting bigotry is not a sign of closed-mindedness. On the contrary, it demonstrates that I have standards for the type of dialogue and ideas I am willing to entertain. Not all viewpoints are equally valid.

Promoting tolerance and understanding doesn't mean tolerating hate speech, discrimination, or bigotry. It's important to stand against sources that consistently demonstrate these traits, as they contribute to a hostile and divisive atmosphere that undermines productive and respectful conversation.

Open-mindedness should never require anyone to put up with abuse, hatred, or discrimination. It's about fostering understanding, respect, and empathy among diverse perspectives, not about endorsing harmful or prejudiced viewpoints even a casual viewing of Matt Walsh's viewpoints (which I have looked into) tell me that the source from which that video flows is disqualifying for me.

Tbh you always come off like a robot to me because you always toss around words but ultimately you’ve said nothing as seen here above. You can copy and paste that speech into any context and you’d be right regardless of where you stand. Relativity and context is everything.

Critical thinking is not hate speech, discrimination or bigotry. Looking into things from different perspectives - occassionally checking out Matt Walsh or FOX or that documentary that you think you disagree with is not going to kill you. After all, even a broken clock is right twice a day, no?

How do you even know what you are debating for or against if you don’t know the other side’s arguments or what they are based on or where they get their information? Do you really think you can get accurate information about anything by only tuning in to “your” channel?

It’s kind of ironic to see this coming from you: “Open-mindedness isn't about consuming all information indiscriminately which you seem to try to chide folks over. It's about being willing to consider new perspectives and ideas critically, which I do.”

I remember your intellectual dishonesty from a thread a while back when I presened Thomas Sowell, Coleman Hughes, and other black voices in a counter-argument, speaking about the black experience in the US. Voices that are informed, educated and have credibility and relevance. Voices who have different perspective on the topic (sociologically, historically, politically) than what you perfer to lecture, and I remember you getting dismissive and sort of offended (subjective impression) that I was using black voices against you and the Al Sharpton cool-aid, and you refused any elaboration on how or why you consider their experience or assessments to be wrong.

You are not open-minded, my friend. You have a severe case of tunnel-vision.

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Do you respect Matt Walsh ?

I bet you’re one of those people who thinks Matt Walsh, Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate, Ben Shapiro, etc. all come from the same school-of-thought and are basically the same person, lol

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I wonder what kind of beliefs does a person have to hold in order to feel threatened by feminism? I am genuinely curious.

The best I got is that the kind of guy who might feel threatened by the kind of world that is not as gender-defined fits a certain mold, picture this: They like the world being a certain way, like those old black-and-white movies where the men wear the suits, smoke the big cigars, and run the show. They are comfortable for several reasons being in a world where men and women have clear, distinct roles, and they don't have to question their own privileges, prejudices, or feelings.

Throw in newer concepts of inclusivity and intersectionalism and it's like you're asking him to watch a movie in 3D after a lifetime of 2D. Suddenly, there are layers and dimensions he's not used to dealing with, and it understandably could leave them wondering "Why are the rules changing? What does this mean for me?" It's like someone just told him their comfortable armchair is being replaced with an exercise ball. It might be better for his posture, but boy, is it going to feel different at first! It's that fear of change and the unknown that's really causing the discomfort.

Ixi, this is probably a post for another topic, but I’m thinking about what you said about men feeling threatened by a world without gender definition. I’ve spoken with quite a few Gen z recently at work and on an anonymous posting group that I’m apart of. We know that the world is changing in terms of how gender is viewed, and talking to gen z’ers it was interesting to hear what they had to say. I don’t know if these are the beliefs of radicals or not. But I was told by 2-3 in separate scenarios, that the goal would be to ultimately have so much gender ambiguity and lack of sexual dimorphism, that gender roles would crumble completely. The dumbed down version of my understanding, would be you literally could not tell who was a male or who was a female and thus the gender roles would cease to exist. That seems a little bit extreme, because many people are traditionally biologically attracted to the opposite gender for their masculine/feminine traits. I know you work in a school - not sure their ages - but have you heard about this? What do you think?

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Isn’t Gen Z that very same generation that’s offing themselves cuz they can’t take “Avatar” isn’t real?

Yeah no one is feeling threatened by gender, the definition has already been rendered obsolete… then out of nowhere these gender-peddlers suddenly emerge and turn back the time 100 years so they can play mental cosplay

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Posted by __ixi__

"A woman is a person born of the female sex."


This assertion is based on a traditional understanding of sex and gender as being the same. However, modern understanding recognizes a difference between sex, which is biological and determined by physical characteristics, and gender, which is a personal and societal construct tied to identity and roles. By this understanding, a woman is not necessarily a person born of the female sex but could be anyone who identifies as a woman.

How do you feel about Lia Thomas? Should we indiscriminately accept her gender identity at the expence of biolgoical women in women’s sports? I mean how can we both accept her identity and not let her compete in women’s sports? We can’t. Clearly everyone sees how utterly insane and absurd it is to have the world spin around one person’s subjective reality. It’s the literal definition of an insane asylum with patients running the show.

I'm not really concerned one way or another about the sporting issue.

Your viewpoint is impassioned but frankly unnecessarily inflammatory and I understand that this is a contentious issue for many However, it's essential to approach it with precision and respect.

The term "subjective reality" you used to describe gender identity seems to suggest that being transgender is a matter of personal whim, which isn't accurate. Gender identity is a deeply felt, intrinsic part of a person's identity - not a choice or a whim. It's not about the world adapting to an individual's reality, but about recognizing the diverse spectrum of human identities.

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It IS a subjective reality by any definition. You even agreed yourself in one of your lenghtly post, you went on about how everyone defines for themselves what their gender is and how it's expressed - so that literally does makes it a SUBJECTIVE reality and something that cannot be objectively defined.

You are tripping on your own logic.

Posted by __ixi__

Regarding sports, fairness is indeed paramount. While that is the case I think it is possible to understand and respect that it is a complex issue, and many sporting bodies are actively grappling with it because its a real issue. They aren't treating it as an absurdity and are seeking to devise policies that both uphold the validity of trans identities and ensure competitive equity. This is not a process that can be solved overnight, and it isn't perfect, but it's a step in the direction of inclusivity and fairness, both things are necessary and not optional.

Again you are just talking vague and basically saying nothing . How can it be both FAIR and INCLUSIVE given the conditions?

It's not rocket science, there is no formula that's waiting to be discovered so we can solve this problem. You already have all the information you'll ever have... so, should a biological male self-identifying as woman be allowed to compete in female sports?

Posted by nanochip


Benefits for men:

Companionship

Family

Financial gains

Career focus

Healthier life style

Domestic labor taken care of

Regular sex

Less risk taking

Emotional fulfillment they do not get elsewhere


Benefits for women:

Companionship

Family

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The benefits for men quickly become the cons for women.


Then there is the inevitable divorce settlement.

I never met a man who actually had to pay alimony. My dad's been married 7 times across several states and never had to pay it, not even was it ever discussed. I grew up in the south where people get married like 5 times throughout their life and never saw it. I don't think this is very common. I could be wrong, but I think maybe this is mostly a risk for extremely wealthy men. Most men do not make that much money these days, they need their S.O to work out of economic necessity.


Many men want homemakers. Okay fine, I get it. Its nice to have someone doing all the boring tasks at home for you.... but homemakers are not independent by definition, and will most often require SPOUSAL support after divorce (we are still looking at an overwhelming 40-50% chance). That dependence and those domestic skills that were so appealing to men at first? Well, now they realize that it was all they had to offer. They become that object of resentment for men that we so often hear about. The vilified, evil hag of the ex wife who dedicated her life to serving up hamburger helper at 7pm every night, and took the children to soccer practices every Wednesday. Women will often be stay at home moms for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, sacrificing their independence and often their identity, and for what? To be tossed out after a divorce. No experience. No skills. No money. Nothing. And yet, somehow they have to figure out how to support their children in a safe and healthy environment, while returning to the work force for the first time in a decade or first time ever, making next to no money. It is an impossible task that they make happen somehow, despite all of the cards stacked against them. You may be thinking "Oh no there's child support for that!" Not always. There are many loopholes that allow men to avoid paying it and best believe they utilize them every way they can. One of my best friends chose to have 2 kids with a man who now evades child support with a series of under-the-table jobs spanning a decade at this point. This is not uncommon.


Men love to point out: "Women initiate 80-90% of divorce!" - Why do you think women are initiating it? I think its because we are at the height of mental and emotional health/awareness that there is just less tolerance for abuse/cheating/unhappiness in general. If that is not acceptable, then the list above would illustrate clearly that marriage benefits men far more than women. Even bad marriages.... So why would men want a divorce?!


I am laughing at the idea that marriage would have any kind of financial benefit to me and so many other women. A lot of women these days are working high paid jobs and it is unlikely their partner will make more money than them. So I am curious, what exactly is the benefit of marriage, to a woman? What am I missing here? Is it just a human experience we want to have, which is fleeting? Is it the ideation of a family, the promise of "forever", which doesn't particularly appeal to me given the current state of the world?


Looking at the list above, it looks so obvious, doesn't it? It even seems ironic that men would throw around the "unmarried cat-hoarding spinster" barbs. Marriage in 2023 is for you, men. Its yours. Embrace your inner golem and get ready to be chasing that ring down. Find a wife and treat her well. You have so much to gain from it.

There's not much difference with marriage or common law relationships. People really think they are saving some kind of headache with common law and they are not. The same suits and battles but a little less legal precedent which can make it a bit more messy. Married or not... battle for kids, pets, property, bills, etc. With common law, the circumstances can really be manipulated.

I couldn't imagine buying a house with a man I wasn't married to... just adding someone onto paper mortgage, property paperwork. That gives me chills. Fucking crazy. I've witnessed this debacle, lawd.

A break-up is a break-up.

You gotta be smart. Discuss, compromise, agree, protect.