Point of No Return (Page 2)

Posted by ScorpioTruth
What did I just read? Point of no return usually means something drastic happened like you caught him in an act of beastiality or he slept with your mother.

But he pissed you off whilst baking brownies... Alrighty then.

————?

Posted by WarAngel1
This is the dumbest thread you've made in a long while. I would kick your ass to the curb for instigating something like this if you were my GF.

YOU called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.

JFC, the nerve of asking someone for the truth, then getting pissed at the result!

I am secretly hoping he ends it.

He drove me home. Helped carry my things in. I didn't say a word to him, not a hug, not a goodbye.

I plan to go no-contact throughout this time. If this is to give us space, then it makes no sense to me to stay in contact over the phone.

I have no idea what things will look like at the end of these few days apart.

Posted by ScorpioTruth
What did I just read? "Point of no return" usually means something drastic happened like you caught him in an act of beastiality or he slept with your mother.

But he pissed you off whilst baking brownies... Alrighty then.

Everyone has their limits. This was bordering mine.

And I don't have a mother.

Posted by WarAngel1
This is the dumbest thread you've made in a long while. I would kick your ass to the curb for instigating something like this if you were my GF.

YOU called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.

JFC, the nerve of asking someone for the truth, then getting pissed at the result!

Result must be delivered in a timely manner or else! Hate is erupt! The end!

?

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by WarAngel1
This is the dumbest thread you've made in a long while. I would kick your ass to the curb for instigating something like this if you were my GF.

YOU called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.

JFC, the nerve of asking someone for the truth, then getting pissed at the result!

I am secretly hoping he ends it.

click to expand

Why don't you end it?

You say you feel hate for him, yet his " meanness" may stem from a place as well.

In all honesty, he seems nonchalant about it all. From after he upset you to now. Sounds like he's still being a gentleman but he's over it. When he told you he felt the two of you had a good time baking brownies he was being an @ss.

Maybe the two of you should break. Strong negative emotions are there coming from the both of you.

Lilly 😢

Try work through this .. It will happen again if you don't address it now

It's nothing to do with the guy....it's stuff that happened to you, way back

The last rship I was in was crazy. He pushed all my buttons and when we were in the midst of a heated exchange, he said to me "this has nothing to do with me, it's things that happened to you as a child. It shook me rigid and soon after i took the journey of going back and facing what i had chosen to ignore and had carried into all my rships.

It isn't easy but worth it's weight in gold if you find the courage to do it

Hugs x

What are your cap's placements?

I don't get the seriousness.

I think scootch your toosh is kind of cute in a corny way.

If you would have given him a light tap on the butt or pinch when you have said this in the past

how do you think he would have reacted?

Do you think it would have made the expression more offensive to him or playful?

Posted by Adreamuponwaking
What are your cap's placements?

I don't get the seriousness.

I think scootch your toosh is kind of cute in a corny way.

If you would have given him a light tap on the butt or pinch when you have said this in the past

how do you think he would reacted?

Do you think it would have made the expression more offensive to him or playful?

I'll say this. Caps are sneaky. I was ready the story smh at her fishing for him to say something negative about her, but when I got to his reaction to her saying " Scootch your toosh" something didn't seem right. Seems like he was overreacting.

Then for him to be so nonchalant afterwards. Continue baking, continue cooking, initiate a break, continue working....all why she's silent. That's suspect. He just seems removed, and I'm curious as to why.

Posted by lnana04

Posted by Adreamuponwaking
What are your cap's placements?

I don't get the seriousness.

I think scootch your toosh is kind of cute in a corny way.

If you would have given him a light tap on the butt or pinch when you have said this in the past

how do you think he would reacted?

Do you think it would have made the expression more offensive to him or playful?

I'll say this. Caps are sneaky. I was ready the story smh at her fishing for him to say something negative about her, but when I got to his reaction to her saying " Scootch your toosh" something didn't seem right. Seems like he was overreacting.

Then for him to be so nonchalant afterwards. Continue baking, continue cooking, initiate a break, continue working....all why she's silent. That's suspect. He just seems removed, and I'm curious as to why.

click to expand

Because of the non-confrontational nature of the Cap.

Posted by lnana04

Posted by Adreamuponwaking
What are your cap's placements?

I don't get the seriousness.

I think scootch your toosh is kind of cute in a corny way.

If you would have given him a light tap on the butt or pinch when you have said this in the past

how do you think he would reacted?

Do you think it would have made the expression more offensive to him or playful?

I'll say this. Caps are sneaky. I was ready the story smh at her fishing for him to say something negative about her, but when I got to his reaction to her saying " Scootch your toosh" something didn't seem right. Seems like he was overreacting.

Then for him to be so nonchalant afterwards. Continue baking, continue cooking, initiate a break, continue working....all why she's silent. That's suspect. He just seems removed, and I'm curious as to why.

click to expand

RIGHT!?

Like it seems like a flag to me.

I mean no one is perfect. We all have are flaws but his reaction seems to be abnormal.



I've got a couple of theories.

Waiting for Lilypetal's reply so I can hone in one of them.

Posted by Gemitati

Posted by lnana04

Posted by Adreamuponwaking
What are your cap's placements?

I don't get the seriousness.

I think scootch your toosh is kind of cute in a corny way.

If you would have given him a light tap on the butt or pinch when you have said this in the past

how do you think he would reacted?

Do you think it would have made the expression more offensive to him or playful?

I'll say this. Caps are sneaky. I was ready the story smh at her fishing for him to say something negative about her, but when I got to his reaction to her saying " Scootch your toosh" something didn't seem right. Seems like he was overreacting.

Then for him to be so nonchalant afterwards. Continue baking, continue cooking, initiate a break, continue working....all why she's silent. That's suspect. He just seems removed, and I'm curious as to why.

Because of the non-confrontational nature of the Cap.

click to expand

Thing is though, is it possible to feel hate towards someone that's non confrontational? He told her how he felt in a way that she felt was mean, he initiated a break, and now he's continuing on without a care basically ignoring his muted girlfriend.

Not sure what it sounds like, but it doesn't sound non confrontational to me. Almost sounds like he's manipulating the situation.

Seems he's pulled a rug from under her and she's developed these negative feelings.

I read again and he's definitely manipulating the situation. She went off on a walk by herself and didn't return until 2am and all he does is bring her food? No concern of where she was that late? While she sleeps alone? Then he wakes up in the morning and says they should break so she can focus on her religion? OP says that it sounds like he's been thinking about it for a while and his mind was made up so she basically HAD to go with it smh. At first I thought you saying you was developing feelings of hate was you overreacting, but I get it now.

I'd say end it. I hate to say this, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone else is in the picture. Now I'm a negative thinker too, so I hope I'm wrong, but I think your feelings are telling OP.

Posted by lnana04

Posted by Gemitati

Posted by lnana04

Posted by Adreamuponwaking
What are your cap's placements?

I don't get the seriousness.

I think scootch your toosh is kind of cute in a corny way.

If you would have given him a light tap on the butt or pinch when you have said this in the past

how do you think he would reacted?

Do you think it would have made the expression more offensive to him or playful?

I'll say this. Caps are sneaky. I was ready the story smh at her fishing for him to say something negative about her, but when I got to his reaction to her saying " Scootch your toosh" something didn't seem right. Seems like he was overreacting.

Then for him to be so nonchalant afterwards. Continue baking, continue cooking, initiate a break, continue working....all why she's silent. That's suspect. He just seems removed, and I'm curious as to why.

Because of the non-confrontational nature of the Cap.

Thing is though, is it possible to feel hate towards someone that's non confrontational? He told her how he felt in a way that she felt was mean, he initiated a break, and now he's continuing on without a care basically ignoring his muted girlfriend.

Not sure what it sounds like, but it doesn't sound non confrontational to me. Almost sounds like he's manipulating the situation.

Seems he's pulled a rug from under her and she's developed these negative feelings.

click to expand

Caps are like that! By default.

I asked my husband once 'haven't you seen me sitting next to you in a car balling my eyes out?' He looked at me with surprised look and said - when?

I said 'about a year almost daily?'

He whispered 'no'...

I don't know if it is Caps 'feature' but now I think it is! OPs Cap is the same way.

Like my eyes want to see only positive and happy pictures! When it's gloomy - ?

Posted by Adreamuponwaking
What are your cap's placements?

I don't get the seriousness.

I think scootch your toosh is kind of cute in a corny way.

If you would have given him a light tap on the butt or pinch when you have said this in the past

how do you think he would reacted?

Do you think it would have made the expression more offensive to him or playful?

I don't really know. He once mentioned someone told him he has a Scorpio moon. I only know his birth time was around midnight; I never got the exact time.

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Adreamuponwaking
What are your cap's placements?

I don't get the seriousness.

I think scootch your toosh is kind of cute in a corny way.

If you would have given him a light tap on the butt or pinch when you have said this in the past

how do you think he would reacted?

Do you think it would have made the expression more offensive to him or playful?

I don't really know. He once mentioned someone told him he has a Scorpio moon. I only know his birth time was around midnight; I never got the exact time.

click to expand

you don't need the exact time for general placements just the date and the year.

i'm sorry should have specified...what's his venus , moon , mars and merc?

Posted by Adreamuponwaking

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Adreamuponwaking
What are your cap's placements?

I don't get the seriousness.

I think scootch your toosh is kind of cute in a corny way.

If you would have given him a light tap on the butt or pinch when you have said this in the past

how do you think he would reacted?

Do you think it would have made the expression more offensive to him or playful?

I don't really know. He once mentioned someone told him he has a Scorpio moon. I only know his birth time was around midnight; I never got the exact time.

you don't need the exact time for general placements just the date and the year.

i'm sorry should have specified...what's his venus , moon , mars and merc?

click to expand

December 22nd, 1995

Aww, he's a baby. Never mind

My bestfriend is a Dec 22nd Cap. I pictured him the entire time I read this.

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Adreamuponwaking

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Adreamuponwaking
What are your cap's placements?

I don't get the seriousness.

I think scootch your toosh is kind of cute in a corny way.

If you would have given him a light tap on the butt or pinch when you have said this in the past

how do you think he would reacted?

Do you think it would have made the expression more offensive to him or playful?

I don't really know. He once mentioned someone told him he has a Scorpio moon. I only know his birth time was around midnight; I never got the exact time.

you don't need the exact time for general placements just the date and the year.

i'm sorry should have specified...what's his venus , moon , mars and merc?

December 22nd, 1995

click to expand

Sun Capricorn

Moon Capricorn

Mercury Capricorn

Venus Aquarius

Mars Capricorn



based on his chart i think he takes life way too seriously.

especially for someone so young.

he has to lighten up and you have to become more secure with yourself ( we all do..especially when we are younger) for things to last.

also we are all flawed.

i'm going to pm you a youtube video..that i think is really insightful to your dilemma ..and maybe will aid in changing your perspective about your situation.

🙂

watch it if you have time/are interested.

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by youngali
man, you're stress.

so basically, you're mad at him for telling you how he feels, because you don't like the way how "he feels" makes you feel.

just fucking insane.

That's not the situation. I'm mad at him for not being honest with me regarding how he feels, all the while telling me I'm perfect, only to know there are things about me that annoy him. He kept it in until he let it boil over. I was completely thrown off guard because I was literally focusing on baking f uc king vegan brownies. Then there is this string of feelings that I never knew existed about something I do that I never thought twice about. So what else is he not telling me? My belief that him saying how great I am is complete bulls hit because I know I'm not that great has just been validated.

click to expand

It wasnt something about you *personally* that bothered him. It has how you chose to phrase something. There's a big difference.

I know you're upset with him for not telling you sooner. But how much sooner should he have told you? As soon as the thought entered his head? What if he didn't realize it bothered him until you said it *this* time? What if it bothered him once before but he thought it was an isolated incident?

Too many variables in the equation to state with certainty he's been 'holding it in for awhile'.. like:

-how long have you been together?

-how long ago did you start baking together?

-how often do you bake together?

-how often do you use that phrase? Every time or just periodically?

I understand where you're coming from; working on issues to help strengthen the relationship is a good thing. But at the same time, why put so much focus - and try to make him put so much focus - on your quote/unquote "irritating" or "less than desirable" qualities..?

That's like going to Paris and only taking pictures of the bathrooms. Don't ignore the shit, but focus on the bigger picture instead of the shit.

Posted by lnana04
I read again and he's definitely manipulating the situation. She went off on a walk by herself and didn't return until 2am and all he does is bring her food? No concern of where she was that late? While she sleeps alone? Then he wakes up in the morning and says they should break so she can focus on her religion? OP says that it sounds like he's been thinking about it for a while and his mind was made up so she basically HAD to go with it smh. At first I thought you saying you was developing feelings of hate was you overreacting, but I get it now.

I'd say end it. I hate to say this, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone else is in the picture. Now I'm a negative thinker too, so I hope I'm wrong, but I think your feelings are telling OP.

I don't think someone else is in the picture. He and I are way too close that it would be near impossible for him to have someone else without me knowing. Plus, he wouldn't do that. It's just in him or his character. He'd break up with me first before ever cheating.

Honestly, though, I wouldn't blame him for thinking of other girls when I'm not sunshine and happiness. Where is the joy in being around someone who is miserable and angry?

I DO feel he is manipulating the situation when he denied being cranky and made it seem as though the baking session was going great. I couldn't take his apology to heart later because he denied there ever was a problem and said how much he enjoyed baking with me. Really? When I clearly wasn't myself the whole time?

Posted by Adreamuponwaking

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Adreamuponwaking

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Adreamuponwaking
What are your cap's placements?

I don't get the seriousness.

I think scootch your toosh is kind of cute in a corny way.

If you would have given him a light tap on the butt or pinch when you have said this in the past

how do you think he would reacted?

Do you think it would have made the expression more offensive to him or playful?

I don't really know. He once mentioned someone told him he has a Scorpio moon. I only know his birth time was around midnight; I never got the exact time.

you don't need the exact time for general placements just the date and the year.

i'm sorry should have specified...what's his venus , moon , mars and merc?

December 22nd, 1995

Sun Capricorn

Moon Capricorn

Mercury Capricorn

Venus Aquarius

Mars Capricorn



based on his chart i think he takes life way too seriously.

especially for someone so young.

he has to lighten up and you have to become more secure with yourself ( we all do..especially when we are younger) for things to last.

also we are all flawed.

i'm going to pm you a youtube video..that i think is really insightful to your dilemma ..and maybe will aid in changing your perspective about your situation.

🙂

watch it if you have time/are interested.

click to expand

Wow

That is SO MUCH EARTH. He is, indeed, an old soul. Thank you, I will watch the videos.

The uppity self righteous princess is a high maintenance hoe. Gee. How shocking. *eyeroll*

There are worse things to get upset over. Get over it.

"WAH HE DIDN'T TELL ME THIS WHOLE TIME. EVERYTHING IS A LIE!!"

Shut. Up. Seriously. It's NOT that serious. Knock off the self sabotaging bullshit.

But vegans are hangry so maybe that's where the irrational behavior comes from. Go eat some real food and maybe you'll feel better.

Posted by Andalusia

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by youngali
man, you're stress.

so basically, you're mad at him for telling you how he feels, because you don't like the way how "he feels" makes you feel.

just fucking insane.

That's not the situation. I'm mad at him for not being honest with me regarding how he feels, all the while telling me I'm perfect, only to know there are things about me that annoy him. He kept it in until he let it boil over. I was completely thrown off guard because I was literally focusing on baking f uc king vegan brownies. Then there is this string of feelings that I never knew existed about something I do that I never thought twice about. So what else is he not telling me? My belief that him saying how great I am is complete bulls hit because I know I'm not that great has just been validated.

It wasnt something about you *personally* that bothered him. It has how you chose to phrase something. There's a big difference.

I know you're upset with him for not telling you sooner. But how much sooner should he have told you? As soon as the thought entered his head? What if he didn't realize it bothered him until you said it *this* time? What if it bothered him once before but he thought it was an isolated incident?

Too many variables in the equation to state with certainty he's been 'holding it in for awhile'.. like:

-how long have you been together?

-how long ago did you start baking together?

-how often do you bake together?

-how often do you use that phrase? Every time or just periodically?

I understand where you're coming from; working on issues to help strengthen the relationship is a good thing. But at the same time, why put so much focus - and try to make him put so much focus - on your quote/unquote "irritating" or "less than desirable" qualities..?

That's like going to Paris and only taking pictures of the bathrooms. Don't ignore the shit, but focus on the bigger picture instead of the shit.

click to expand

Actually when we went to Paris - my bathroom was the best memories!

—

I hated Paris.

So did my friends from Germany.

Dirty, unkept, rude people bumping into you without any 'exuse moa' and horrible food! Yuck!

Oh and I forgot walking on dog poo and people relieving themselves on streets!

Brrrrr

Posted by rockyroadicecream
The uppity self righteous princess is a high maintenance hoe. Gee. How shocking. *eyeroll*

There are worse things to get upset over. Get over it.

"WAH HE DIDN'T TELL ME THIS WHOLE TIME. EVERYTHING IS A LIE!!"

Shut. Up. Seriously. It's NOT that serious. Knock off the self sabotaging bullshit.

But vegans are hangry so maybe that's where the irrational behavior comes from. Go eat some real food and maybe you'll feel better.

LMAO at "real food."

When people know you're vegan, so they blame every life problem you experience on the fact that you don't partake in cruelty to animals. 😆

Posted by Lush

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Adreamuponwaking

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Adreamuponwaking

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Adreamuponwaking
What are your cap's placements?

I don't get the seriousness.

I think scootch your toosh is kind of cute in a corny way.

If you would have given him a light tap on the butt or pinch when you have said this in the past

how do you think he would reacted?

Do you think it would have made the expression more offensive to him or playful?

I don't really know. He once mentioned someone told him he has a Scorpio moon. I only know his birth time was around midnight; I never got the exact time.

you don't need the exact time for general placements just the date and the year.

i'm sorry should have specified...what's his venus , moon , mars and merc?

December 22nd, 1995

Sun Capricorn

Moon Capricorn

Mercury Capricorn

Venus Aquarius

Mars Capricorn



based on his chart i think he takes life way too seriously.

especially for someone so young.

he has to lighten up and you have to become more secure with yourself ( we all do..especially when we are younger) for things to last.

also we are all flawed.

i'm going to pm you a youtube video..that i think is really insightful to your dilemma ..and maybe will aid in changing your perspective about your situation.

🙂

watch it if you have time/are interested.

Wow

That is SO MUCH EARTH. He is, indeed, an old soul. Thank you, I will watch the videos.

His Tropical signs are similar to mine:

Sun Capricorn

Moon Capricorn

Mercury Capricorn

Venus Aquarius

Mars Aquarius

click to expand

Wow, that is very similar. I have so much reading to do now that I have this info!

Posted by Gemitati
Oh and I forgot walking on dog poo and people relieving themselves on streets!

Brrrrr

Gross ?

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by rockyroadicecream
The uppity self righteous princess is a high maintenance hoe. Gee. How shocking. *eyeroll*

There are worse things to get upset over. Get over it.

"WAH HE DIDN'T TELL ME THIS WHOLE TIME. EVERYTHING IS A LIE!!"

Shut. Up. Seriously. It's NOT that serious. Knock off the self sabotaging bullshit.

But vegans are hangry so maybe that's where the irrational behavior comes from. Go eat some real food and maybe you'll feel better.

LMAO at "real food."

When people know you're vegan, so they blame every life problem you experience on the fact that you don't partake in cruelty to animals. 😆

click to expand

Did he get you started on that?

Veganism?

Posted by Lush

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Lush

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Adreamuponwaking

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Adreamuponwaking

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Adreamuponwaking
What are your cap's placements?

I don't get the seriousness.

I think scootch your toosh is kind of cute in a corny way.

If you would have given him a light tap on the butt or pinch when you have said this in the past

how do you think he would reacted?

Do you think it would have made the expression more offensive to him or playful?

I don't really know. He once mentioned someone told him he has a Scorpio moon. I only know his birth time was around midnight; I never got the exact time.

you don't need the exact time for general placements just the date and the year.

i'm sorry should have specified...what's his venus , moon , mars and merc?

December 22nd, 1995

Sun Capricorn

Moon Capricorn

Mercury Capricorn

Venus Aquarius

Mars Capricorn



based on his chart i think he takes life way too seriously.

especially for someone so young.

he has to lighten up and you have to become more secure with yourself ( we all do..especially when we are younger) for things to last.

also we are all flawed.

i'm going to pm you a youtube video..that i think is really insightful to your dilemma ..and maybe will aid in changing your perspective about your situation.

🙂

watch it if you have time/are interested.

Wow

That is SO MUCH EARTH. He is, indeed, an old soul. Thank you, I will watch the videos.

His Tropical signs are similar to mine:

Sun Capricorn

Moon Capricorn

Mercury Capricorn

Venus Aquarius

Mars Aquarius

Wow, that is very similar. I have so much reading to do now that I have this info!

Do you know his birthplace? His chart looks interesting! I looked up his Sidereal signs and they're slightly different than mine.

My sidereal signs are:

Sun Sagittarius

Moon Sagittarius

Mercury Capricorn

Venus Capricorn

Mars Aquarius

His sidereal signs are:

Sun Sagittarius

Moon Sagittarius

Mercury Sagittarius

Venus Aquarius

Mars Sagittarius

All I wanted to say though is that I think people with stelliums can achieve greatness. He has a stellium with both the Tropical and Sidereal system.

click to expand

Interesting. What are stelliums and how do they affect one's life?

Posted by Montgomery

Posted by Gemitati
Oh and I forgot walking on dog poo and people relieving themselves on streets!

Brrrrr

Gross ?

click to expand

I know right?

I had helloova time explaining to my 7 y-old what is coming out of that man...

And then we had to jump over the urine stream...

It was right after my friend just finished wiping dog poo off her son shoes!

Oh memories...

But my bathroom was bigger than a room!

With huge window that if I opened it - I could see a person on a toilet across the street! We could literally have a conversation while ELIMINATION.

Tjat if I spoke French. Otherwise just wave! And smile...?

Posted by Gemitati

Posted by Montgomery

Posted by Gemitati
Oh and I forgot walking on dog poo and people relieving themselves on streets!

Brrrrr

Gross ?

I know right?

I had helloova time explaining to my 7 y-old what is coming out of that man...

And then we had to jump over the urine stream...

It was right after my friend just finished wiping dog poo off her son shoes!

Oh memories...

But my bathroom was bigger than a room!

With huge window that if I opened it - I could see a person on a toilet across the street! We could literally have a conversation while ELIMINATION.

Tjat if I spoke French. Otherwise just wave! And smile...?

click to expand

😆 ~

Posted by Montgomery

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by rockyroadicecream
The uppity self righteous princess is a high maintenance hoe. Gee. How shocking. *eyeroll*

There are worse things to get upset over. Get over it.

"WAH HE DIDN'T TELL ME THIS WHOLE TIME. EVERYTHING IS A LIE!!"

Shut. Up. Seriously. It's NOT that serious. Knock off the self sabotaging bullshit.

But vegans are hangry so maybe that's where the irrational behavior comes from. Go eat some real food and maybe you'll feel better.

LMAO at "real food."

When people know you're vegan, so they blame every life problem you experience on the fact that you don't partake in cruelty to animals. 😆

Did he get you started on that?

Veganism?

click to expand

This is an interesting aspect of our dynamic!

When we first met, we were both pescatarian. I then moved toward vegetarianism and he began to cut down on seafood. I then transitioned to veganism, and he's is vegan when cooking with me. We go grocery shopping together and we only buy vegan products and ingredients. But he's technically not vegan because he will occasionally eat cheese and "dolphin-free" seafood (never pork, beef, lamb, or chicken, and not salmon.) We are both political-minded, so he is political about where he gets his cheese (for example, he won't eat cheese from chains, but he will eat the cheese his mom makes or from local dairy farmers.)

He and I have very interesting debates about veganism because I've reached a point where I am done exploiting animals yet he still sees a medium (a middle-ground I don't believe really exists.)

It's interesting because I was talking veganism with his best friend, a Taurus, and the Taurus said my Capricorn seemed to always have it in him - to be vegan - even when he first met him. He said that the way he spoke, and the issues he was interested in and passionate about, the Taurus thinks my Capricorn eventually turning vegan is basically written in the stars.

It's an interesting situation because he is of German heritage. And the fact that his mother runs a bakery and cheesery for a living - I know that's plays a big part in why he isn't committing completely to a vegan life style .

I told my Capricorn that if we were to ever have children, I would like to raise them vegan. He is completely in support of that. I wish my parents had raised me vegan and given me a choice in whether or not I wanted to eat animals.

When I first became vegan, I was mentally going through so much (what with cognitive-resonance, social pressures, feelings of isolation...) At his family-gatherings, I often get judgements about my life decision to go cruelty-free. I love that he will step in and speak up for me, even when he hasn't made the full transition himself. He will also question the menu for me when we go out to eat to ensure the dishes are vegan, or ask the cooks at food stands during fairs...His support means a lot, more than I could ever express.

I am hoping that one day, we will both be fully vegan together.

Posted by AneemA08

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Undine
This is one of the most stupid things I ever read. You have huge issues to work on. Has nothing to do with him...if anything, he appears to have the patience of a saint with you.

I am aware I have issues. And something as dumb as that triggered it, and the issue probably will never go away.

And he is too good for me. He definitely deserves better.

No, tho. If you really love him.

You don't simply go and let him "get better ones.

Instead, you work on yourself.

But don't get me wrong, it doesn't mean I don't understand how you feel. I do, very much in fact. However, he has been working things out with you and those efforts need to be appreciated enough by you trying to get better with him.

click to expand

Working on myself...that's a big part of why I need to know how he sees me. How I reason is, if he tells me ahead of time about a flaw of mine bothers him, it gives me a chance to work on it and be better.

Otherwise, there is a part of me that he hates. I am afraid of him concealing things because I feel he is robbing me of my chance to be better for him.

Posted by Adreamuponwaking
What are your cap's placements?

I don't get the seriousness.

I think scootch your toosh is kind of cute in a corny way.

If you would have given him a light tap on the butt or pinch when you have said this in the past

how do you think he would have reacted?

Do you think it would have made the expression more offensive to him or playful?

I think he would find it offensive or annoying. He likes to be the one grabbing and smacking my ass.

Posted by Adreamuponwaking
....

you don't need the exact time for general placements just the date and the year.

...what's his venus , moon , mars and merc?

unless Moon changed sign on that day. then you need time of birth too. only a short reminder.

Posted by LadyNeptune
Op is this your first big fight with him?

No

We had one other big fight. I will say one other because it's all I can remember, which means it's probably the only one that was actually a fight.

Posted by AneemA08

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by halalbae
the classic princess throwing a temper tantrum cause their partner respects the relationship enough to tell princess what bothers them

It's the timing of when he brought it up, not that he said it. And although he denies it, I could sense that it was coming from a place of frustration that he allowed to build up when he didn't say something about it sooner.

Hmm.. So you see it that he only brings things up when it has reached to the point of emergency?

But wait, do you not understand that, if I may say, particular habit of yours almost always bother him?

You may see his request of spending time apart to be a breaking point.. Or at least, that's what I perceive it to be.

Are you going to break it, then? Or.. Make it?

click to expand

I'm in an anniahlistic mood right now. Had you asked me that even three hours ago, I would have told you I hope he'd break it. Honestly, talking about him in my response to Monty is calming me, and I almost feel heartache from not saying goodbye to him and for purposefully leaving my bunny behind at his house (the only stuffed animal, besides a stingray, that he bought me.)

I have so much darkness inside me. I've seen this darkness in two significant people in my life, and they both represent who I never want to be. Yet, here I am, already reflecting them. It terrifies me.

Posted by Lush

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Lush

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Lush

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Adreamuponwaking

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Adreamuponwaking

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Adreamuponwaking
What are your cap's placements?

I don't get the seriousness.

I think scootch your toosh is kind of cute in a corny way.

If you would have given him a light tap on the butt or pinch when you have said this in the past

how do you think he would reacted?

Do you think it would have made the expression more offensive to him or playful?

I don't really know. He once mentioned someone told him he has a Scorpio moon. I only know his birth time was around midnight; I never got the exact time.

you don't need the exact time for general placements just the date and the year.

i'm sorry should have specified...what's his venus , moon , mars and merc?

December 22nd, 1995

Sun Capricorn

Moon Capricorn

Mercury Capricorn

Venus Aquarius

Mars Capricorn



based on his chart i think he takes life way too seriously.

especially for someone so young.

he has to lighten up and you have to become more secure with yourself ( we all do..especially when we are younger) for things to last.

also we are all flawed.

i'm going to pm you a youtube video..that i think is really insightful to your dilemma ..and maybe will aid in changing your perspective about your situation.

🙂

watch it if you have time/are interested.

Wow

That is SO MUCH EARTH. He is, indeed, an old soul. Thank you, I will watch the videos.

His Tropical signs are similar to mine:

Sun Capricorn

Moon Capricorn

Mercury Capricorn

Venus Aquarius

Mars Aquarius

Wow, that is very similar. I have so much reading to do now that I have this info!

Do you know his birthplace? His chart looks interesting! I looked up his Sidereal signs and they're slightly different than mine.

My sidereal signs are:

Sun Sagittarius

Moon Sagittarius

Mercury Capricorn

Venus Capricorn

Mars Aquarius

His sidereal signs are:

Sun Sagittarius

Moon Sagittarius

Mercury Sagittarius

Venus Aquarius

Mars Sagittarius

All I wanted to say though is that I think people with stelliums can achieve greatness. He has a stellium with both the Tropical and Sidereal system.

Interesting. What are stelliums and how do they affect one's life?

Stelliums are strengths because all the planets are close together propelling each other. It can create a focus in one area / highly specialized person too.

click to expand

I'm learning so much more about him. Thank you for explaining that. If I had to bet money, I would bet that his focus that's dictated by the stars is his art.

I mean personally I think both of y'all are a little weird. I've never heard anyone take that phrase maliciously, Idk how he did but ok. People hate what they hate I suppose.

And I've never heard of anyone having a temper tantrum and overthinking as much as you even considering he told you so gently about how he felt. AND still yet apologized for how he felt. Which sucks, he shouldn't have to apologize for being honest with you.

Posted by rockyroadicecream
The uppity self righteous princess is a high maintenance hoe. Gee. How shocking. *eyeroll*

There are worse things to get upset over. Get over it.

"WAH HE DIDN'T TELL ME THIS WHOLE TIME. EVERYTHING IS A LIE!!"

Shut. Up. Seriously. It's NOT that serious. Knock off the self sabotaging bullshit.

But vegans are hangry so maybe that's where the irrational behavior comes from. Go eat some real food and maybe you'll feel better.

I love how you stick to character. You're committed.

9 pages girl? Just let it go. If things ended because of this I'd be mad at myself. Stop thinking and analyzing.

Posted by AneemA08

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by AneemA08

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by Undine
This is one of the most stupid things I ever read. You have huge issues to work on. Has nothing to do with him...if anything, he appears to have the patience of a saint with you.

I am aware I have issues. And something as dumb as that triggered it, and the issue probably will never go away.

And he is too good for me. He definitely deserves better.

No, tho. If you really love him.

You don't simply go and let him "get better ones.

Instead, you work on yourself.

But don't get me wrong, it doesn't mean I don't understand how you feel. I do, very much in fact. However, he has been working things out with you and those efforts need to be appreciated enough by you trying to get better with him.

Working on myself...that's a big part of why I need to know how he sees me. How I reason is, if he tells me ahead of time about a flaw of mine bothers him, it gives me a chance to work on it and be better.

Otherwise, there is a part of me that he hates. I am afraid of him concealing things because I feel he is robbing me of my chance to be better for him.

Hmm.. I see.

Okay so let's put it this way..

If he doesn't let you know that, ever, would it then leaves you not being able to improve yourself?

I believe not.

I see you have ideas already of what to work on and so why wait for him? Why makes him to be the enabler of your improvements?

We should be the enabler of our own improvements. That's what I believe.

click to expand

But I don't see myself the way he sees me. Like this instance, I didn't even know I was being irritating until he said something. So it stands to reason that there are other things, probably personality-related things, that need working on that I don't even realize unless someone points it out to me. I'm so introspective, I get lost in the details - looking at the potties as another poster said. An outsider's perspective allows me to see more of the picture. I don't know.

Posted by bkbella86
9 pages girl? Just let it go. If things ended because of this I'd be mad at myself. Stop thinking and analyzing.

I'm a Pisces moon and a Virgo rising. Thinking and overanalyzing is what I do. But I get you. I need to go to bed.

Well...in a few hours from I hate him and don't trust him to I hope we will become vegans together?

DXP rules!!!

Though its still weird like if you having Sibil personality....hmmm

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by bkbella86
9 pages girl? Just let it go. If things ended because of this I'd be mad at myself. Stop thinking and analyzing.

I'm a Pisces moon and a Virgo rising. Thinking and overanalyzing is what I do. But I get you. I need to go to bed.

click to expand

I have a Pisces moon too and and Aries sun like you. I get you girl. That's why I say this is small beans. Nothing serious. Don't beat yourself up and don't listen to these people pushing their negative ideas about you onto you. Let it go. Actually I would delete the whole thing.

Youre perfectly fine and even more so for admitting your flaws. Rest is good. You can look at this logically in the morning. I repeat you're doing just fine.

Posted by AneemA08

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by AneemA08

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by halalbae
the classic princess throwing a temper tantrum cause their partner respects the relationship enough to tell princess what bothers them

It's the timing of when he brought it up, not that he said it. And although he denies it, I could sense that it was coming from a place of frustration that he allowed to build up when he didn't say something about it sooner.

Hmm.. So you see it that he only brings things up when it has reached to the point of emergency?

But wait, do you not understand that, if I may say, particular habit of yours almost always bother him?

You may see his request of spending time apart to be a breaking point.. Or at least, that's what I perceive it to be.

Are you going to break it, then? Or.. Make it?

I'm in an anniahlistic mood right now. Had you asked me that even three hours ago, I would have told you I hope he'd break it. Honestly, talking about him in my response to Monty is calming me, and I almost feel heartache from not saying goodbye to him and for purposefully leaving my bunny behind at his house (the only stuffed animal, besides a stingray, that he bought me.)

I have so much darkness inside me. I've seen this darkness in two significant people in my life, and they both represent who I never want to be. Yet, here I am, already reflecting them. It terrifies me.

Yeah. I know that feeling.

Oh i know it too about darkness within two significant ppl in my life. I always try to not be like them... But guess what? Instead, I seem to embrace them. Sigh....

I haven't read your response to Monty.. Is Monty = Montgomery? On what page is that?

Well I guess you have calmed down and start to see some enlightenment from all of this..

I think you bf is a keeper. It would be a shame for you to waste that blessing, you know..

But stuffed animals though ?

Do you like stuffed animals?

What presents do you like receiving from males?

I mean, I personally would just like gifts from a guy of some good backpacking trips together. The bonding moments will be strong there.

Anyway, my boss once gifted me a package of one of those minions doll and packs of chocolates.

I was like very happy and surprised about that but when I contemplated on his choice of presents, I was like -_______-

But ay, I can be a hard critics to myself and people 😛

So I think your bf is a sweet guy. Cheer up!

click to expand

Ah, stuffed animals are an inside joke of ours because I explicitly asked him to never buy me one (my saggie brother's Capricorn girlfriend is obsessed and has a MASSIVE COLLECTION.) Clutter gives me hives. 😆

We got the stingray because it's one of my most favorite animals (along with cats, turtles, and otters.) But that was the second stuffed animal after the bunny.

The story behind my bunny is a good one. So, during a trip to a Whole Foods store, he and I decided to browse the hand-craft aisle. While paroozing, I spotted this bunny with floppy ears and stitches for eyes (the glass eyes freak me out.) Something about that warm bunny captivated me and I immediately grabbed him off the shelf and hugged him. He was handmade from organic materials by a family who owned a small business borne from wanting to offer their hyper-sensitive child safe toys. So, no two stuffed animals were alike.

Anyway, my Capricorn watched me incredulously, and his eyes wouldn't stop twinkling. He then gave me the biggest smile and exclaimed: "Before you asked me to never buy you stuffed animals, I contemplated buying you THIS EXACT RABBIT. And that was MONTHS AGO!"

I laughed at that coinkidink, put the rabbit back on the shelf, and went towards produce. He found an abandoned shopping cart and wanted to return it to its rightful place. I later found out that he used that as a way to buy my bunny behind my back and sneak it into our bag.

When I discovered the rabbit, he claimed it jumped into our bag somehow. I have so many positive emotions attached to that rabbit because of the story of how he came to be mine. *^__^*

Traveling is great. Our first date was a hike. We have since been to Portland, Seattle, and New Orleans together. We will hit Europe for sure. We also love live theatre and music events. Honestly, he is so thoughtful in whatever he gets me, that I love anything he gets me when he does, including fresh strawberries. ☺️

That was sweet of your boss, but also an interesting choice of present for an employee.

The Monty post I was referring to is the one where I explained veganism.

Posted by LillyPetal

Posted by tiziani
He sounds like a great guy to be fair. That shows in how he suggested some time apart for the benefit of both. Use the time wisely and work on not screwing up your life unnecessarily.

So I should take that as a "good" sign? What good is a relationship that you have to escape from? If he can't be creative and I can't connect to my religion while we are together - then what is the point? I'm afraid of saying something awful between now and when he drops me off at my house.

click to expand

It's not "escaping". It's just giving yourself and your partner some time to calm down and sort your thoughts. If you have to spend time with your partner 24/7 you really have serious issues.

If he haven't said earlier that your "smooch something" bothers him it was because he didn't realize it back then (or he didn't want to ashame you - he values you somehow) - as Caps we sometimes have to be left on our own for a while to come to terms what we REALLY feel and think. Sometimes our thoughts are covered by love so we just don't realize that with certain traits in our partner we aren't comfortable.

As to religion - from what you write I assume he's agnostic or just he has other religion. I bet he feels uncomfortable with it but cares enough as to let you do what you want with it, and not ban your religion from you just beause it's not what he does.

You're not a woman, you're spoiled child.

And his frustration was because of your throwing a tantrum. If you don't believe nor trust him it's better if he dumps you if it's that hard for you to regain trust. Besides then you'd have time to work on yourself.

Seriously, facepalm after reading first paragraph. If you found a man who assures you daily that he loves you, how can you be still insecure? Understand that sometimes people need their space.

Posted by Capmercury87
What are your guys Venus signs?

I've just learned that his is aquarius and I think mine is gemini.