Why is loyalty and honesty so difficult for him?

I met a guy in January we have been crazy about each other and in may I found out he was sleeping with a girl he met before me and told he wasn’t ready for a relationship. We made it Fb official in may and that’s when I got a message. I gave him a chance because he seemed really sincere about it. He gave me his passwords and everything as long as I gave him a shot. Well this weekend I was in the room with his mom and daughter we left after and I got this weird vibe by the things he was saying to me.(idk if this is relevant but he was a alcoholic but stopped and now smokes weed like five times a day) I went in his phone and he messaged one of his Facebook friends saying wow 🤩 to her picture. While I was in the other room. I broke up with him but I just don’t get it?

Can you elaborate?

Was it him hyping up his friend that did it?

Or the fact he fucked other people before he met you?

Looking for the time he lied or wasn't loyal in your account of things and so far I got nothing.

He said wow and thought the girls picture was cute and you broke up with him?



What is loyalty to you? Not telling another girl she is pretty?

What is honesty? Because he didn't run to you and tell you straight away that he liked and commented on a girls picture?

Is this even considered cheating?

People take social media way too seriously.

Loyalty and honesty is hard or a waste of time for those who don’t have to face real consequences

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He said wow and thought the girls picture was cute and you broke up with him?



What is loyalty to you? Not telling another girl she is pretty?

What is honesty? Because he didn't run to you and tell you straight away that he liked and commented on a girls picture?

Is this even considered cheating?

People take social media way too seriously.

He didn't even say pretty. He said WOW.

Like, how dare he.

Burn him RIGHT NOW. My pitchfork is ready and sharpened in support of OP

First of all he should be working on building that trust back n his behavior shows he isn’t. I bet if he hadn’t Cheated no one would care about a wow on a picture. But those are real consequences of your dishonesty.

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He said wow and thought the girls picture was cute and you broke up with him?



What is loyalty to you? Not telling another girl she is pretty?

What is honesty? Because he didn't run to you and tell you straight away that he liked and commented on a girls picture?

Is this even considered cheating?

People take social media way too seriously.

He didn't even say pretty. He said WOW.

Like, how dare he.

Burn him RIGHT NOW. My pitchfork is ready and sharpened in support of OP

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I'm wondering if I'm too passive.

He fuc ked someone and got a pass, but him looking starry eyed on social media was the last straw lol

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He said wow and thought the girls picture was cute and you broke up with him?



What is loyalty to you? Not telling another girl she is pretty?

What is honesty? Because he didn't run to you and tell you straight away that he liked and commented on a girls picture?

Is this even considered cheating?

People take social media way too seriously.

He didn't even say pretty. He said WOW.

Like, how dare he.

Burn him RIGHT NOW. My pitchfork is ready and sharpened in support of OP

I'm wondering if I'm too passive.

He fuc ked someone and got a pass, but him looking starry eyed on social media was the last straw lol

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He fucked someone he met BEFORE her.

By that meter we are all a bunch of cheating slores and jezebels. Except all you lucky 4chan virgins. Damn another win for the redpilled.



I commented on my straight guy friends post and said he looks great. He's been on a weight loss journey and I know he's been trying to get back in shape so he can work at the club now that things are reopening.

I didn't run and show my bf this comment though. Did I cheat?

Am I a liar?

He should break up with me right? I clearly am not loyal.

Maybe I need to elaborate… he was cheating on me the whole time we were together. I found it in may about it but he was with another girl the whole time from January to may. He gets mad if a guy comments on my social media and we have public banter about it but he messaged a girl to say “wow 🤩 “ if it was so innocent he could’ve publicly said that instead of messaging no—

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Maybe I need to elaborate… he was cheating on me the whole time we were together. I found it in may about it but he was with another girl the whole time from January to may. He gets mad if a guy comments on my social media and we have public banter about it but he messaged a girl to say “wow 🤩 “ if it was so innocent he could’ve publicly said that instead of messaging no—

Didn't he tell you he wasn't ready for a relationship. And you weren't official until may. So it wasn't cheating. Technically.

In fact the other way around, you were the side chick. He met her first.

If there's no trust there is no relationship. You don't need to justify it as being about a 'wow' message. Just tell him you feel like he wasn't honest with you from the beginning and its tainted the way you feel about him.

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First of all he should be working on building that trust back n his behavior shows he isn’t. I bet if he hadn’t Cheated no one would care about a wow on a picture. But those are real consequences of your dishonesty.

That’s how I feel… we already have trust issues and him doing that to a single girl on his Facebook I feel like it’s shady and makes for more miss trust. What if she messaged back etc… I’m in the next room playing with his daughter and having wine with his mom and he’s messaging girls about their pictures… I feel like it’s wrong especially after everything

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Maybe I need to elaborate… he was cheating on me the whole time we were together. I found it in may about it but he was with another girl the whole time from January to may. He gets mad if a guy comments on my social media and we have public banter about it but he messaged a girl to say “wow 🤩 “ if it was so innocent he could’ve publicly said that instead of messaging no—

Didn't he tell you he wasn't ready for a relationship. And you weren't official until may. So it wasn't cheating. Technically.

In fact the other way around, you were the side chick. He met her first.

If there's no trust there is no relationship. You don't need to justify it as being about a 'wow' message. Just tell him you feel like he wasn't honest with you from the beginning and its tainted the way you feel about him.

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Actually we were official before that. We made it Fb official in may and we agreed in March we weren’t seeing other people. He told her he didn’t want a relationship but apparently they had agreed not to see other people in January. That’s really what’s it boils down to tho. There’s no trust and I feel like he’s a cheater and liar at this point

While together did he tell you were exclusive or give you that impression. If you got that impression A lesson to learn is that it’s ok to know we’re you stand and as as soon as I’d say three months in . So the excuse of oh we weren’t official doesn’t fly.

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Maybe I need to elaborate… he was cheating on me the whole time we were together. I found it in may about it but he was with another girl the whole time from January to may. He gets mad if a guy comments on my social media and we have public banter about it but he messaged a girl to say “wow 🤩 “ if it was so innocent he could’ve publicly said that instead of messaging no—

Didn't he tell you he wasn't ready for a relationship. And you weren't official until may. So it wasn't cheating. Technically.

In fact the other way around, you were the side chick. He met her first.

If there's no trust there is no relationship. You don't need to justify it as being about a 'wow' message. Just tell him you feel like he wasn't honest with you from the beginning and its tainted the way you feel about him.

Actually we were official before that. We made it Fb official in may and we agreed in March we weren’t seeing other people. He told her he didn’t want a relationship but apparently they had agreed not to see other people in January. That’s really what’s it boils down to tho. There’s no trust and I feel like he’s a cheater and liar at this point

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Yikes. And did he also bring her around his mother and child?

I bet his kids mom has some fun stories to tell.

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He said wow and thought the girls picture was cute and you broke up with him?



What is loyalty to you? Not telling another girl she is pretty?

What is honesty? Because he didn't run to you and tell you straight away that he liked and commented on a girls picture?

Is this even considered cheating?

People take social media way too seriously.

He didn't even say pretty. He said WOW.

Like, how dare he.

Burn him RIGHT NOW. My pitchfork is ready and sharpened in support of OP

I'm wondering if I'm too passive.

He fuc ked someone and got a pass, but him looking starry eyed on social media was the last straw lol

He fucked someone he met BEFORE her.

By that meter we are all a bunch of cheating slores and jezebels. Except all you lucky 4chan virgins. Damn another win for the redpilled.



I commented on my straight guy friends post and said he looks great. He's been on a weight loss journey and I know he's been trying to get back in shape so he can work at the club now that things are reopening.

I didn't run and show my bf this comment though. Did I cheat?

Am I a liar?

He should break up with me right? I clearly am not loyal.

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LMAO. It's WILD out here in these streets! 😆

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Maybe I need to elaborate… he was cheating on me the whole time we were together. I found it in may about it but he was with another girl the whole time from January to may. He gets mad if a guy comments on my social media and we have public banter about it but he messaged a girl to say “wow 🤩 “ if it was so innocent he could’ve publicly said that instead of messaging no—

Didn't he tell you he wasn't ready for a relationship. And you weren't official until may. So it wasn't cheating. Technically.

In fact the other way around, you were the side chick. He met her first.

If there's no trust there is no relationship. You don't need to justify it as being about a 'wow' message. Just tell him you feel like he wasn't honest with you from the beginning and its tainted the way you feel about him.

Actually we were official before that. We made it Fb official in may and we agreed in March we weren’t seeing other people. He told her he didn’t want a relationship but apparently they had agreed not to see other people in January. That’s really what’s it boils down to tho. There’s no trust and I feel like he’s a cheater and liar at this point

Yikes. And did he also bring her around his mother and child?

I bet his kids mom has some fun stories to tell.

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According to them no… they all were saying how he doesn’t bring anyone around unless it’s serious and his mom and sister kept saying how they never saw him like this before. Doesn’t make a difference tho… he’s a liar. I think he’s that type when things go good he’s gotta do something to mess it up… idk

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While together did he tell you were exclusive or give you that impression. If you got that impression A lesson to learn is that it’s ok to know we’re you stand and as as soon as I’d say three months in . So the excuse of oh we weren’t official doesn’t fly.

No we were def official by March/aprilish

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Maybe I need to elaborate… he was cheating on me the whole time we were together. I found it in may about it but he was with another girl the whole time from January to may. He gets mad if a guy comments on my social media and we have public banter about it but he messaged a girl to say “wow 🤩 “ if it was so innocent he could’ve publicly said that instead of messaging no—

Didn't he tell you he wasn't ready for a relationship. And you weren't official until may. So it wasn't cheating. Technically.

In fact the other way around, you were the side chick. He met her first.

If there's no trust there is no relationship. You don't need to justify it as being about a 'wow' message. Just tell him you feel like he wasn't honest with you from the beginning and its tainted the way you feel about him.

Actually we were official before that. We made it Fb official in may and we agreed in March we weren’t seeing other people. He told her he didn’t want a relationship but apparently they had agreed not to see other people in January. That’s really what’s it boils down to tho. There’s no trust and I feel like he’s a cheater and liar at this point

Yikes. And did he also bring her around his mother and child?

I bet his kids mom has some fun stories to tell.

According to them no… they all were saying how he doesn’t bring anyone around unless it’s serious and his mom and sister kept saying how they never saw him like this before. Doesn’t make a difference tho… he’s a liar. I think he’s that type when things go good he’s gotta do something to mess it up… idk

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I’ve seen that around with my male cousins. The family mom covers up for him so any of that i take with a grain of salt. I think it’s bad how mother support this kind of activity. Is he Hispanic?

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I met a guy in January we have been crazy about each other and in may I found out he was sleeping with a girl he met before me and told he wasn’t ready for a relationship. We made it Fb official in may and that’s when I got a message. I gave him a chance because he seemed really sincere about it. He gave me his passwords and everything as long as I gave him a shot. Well this weekend I was in the room with his mom and daughter we left after and I got this weird vibe by the things he was saying to me.(idk if this is relevant but he was a alcoholic but stopped and now smokes weed like five times a day) I went in his phone and he messaged one of his Facebook friends saying wow 🤩 to her picture. While I was in the other room. I broke up with him but I just don’t get it?

Well.

Uhm, did he offer to give you his passwords, or did you demand them? From what is written, it seems like it was part of the stipulation you gave him to become a thing?

And the saying "wow" to a picture..I can see how that might bother someone, but, 1: you probably shouldn't be snooping through his social media. And 2: isn't breaking up over that a little..extreme?

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Maybe I need to elaborate… he was cheating on me the whole time we were together. I found it in may about it but he was with another girl the whole time from January to may. He gets mad if a guy comments on my social media and we have public banter about it but he messaged a girl to say “wow 🤩 “ if it was so innocent he could’ve publicly said that instead of messaging no—

Didn't he tell you he wasn't ready for a relationship. And you weren't official until may. So it wasn't cheating. Technically.

In fact the other way around, you were the side chick. He met her first.

If there's no trust there is no relationship. You don't need to justify it as being about a 'wow' message. Just tell him you feel like he wasn't honest with you from the beginning and its tainted the way you feel about him.

Actually we were official before that. We made it Fb official in may and we agreed in March we weren’t seeing other people. He told her he didn’t want a relationship but apparently they had agreed not to see other people in January. That’s really what’s it boils down to tho. There’s no trust and I feel like he’s a cheater and liar at this point

Yikes. And did he also bring her around his mother and child?

I bet his kids mom has some fun stories to tell.

According to them no… they all were saying how he doesn’t bring anyone around unless it’s serious and his mom and sister kept saying how they never saw him like this before. Doesn’t make a difference tho… he’s a liar. I think he’s that type when things go good he’s gotta do something to mess it up… idk

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Seems like a lot of work for a single dad. IJS

Its only been a few months and there are plenty of other dad bods out there for you to ride.

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He said wow and thought the girls picture was cute and you broke up with him?



What is loyalty to you? Not telling another girl she is pretty?

What is honesty? Because he didn't run to you and tell you straight away that he liked and commented on a girls picture?

Is this even considered cheating?

People take social media way too seriously.

He didn't even say pretty. He said WOW.

Like, how dare he.

Burn him RIGHT NOW. My pitchfork is ready and sharpened in support of OP

I'm wondering if I'm too passive.

He fuc ked someone and got a pass, but him looking starry eyed on social media was the last straw lol

He fucked someone he met BEFORE her.

By that meter we are all a bunch of cheating slores and jezebels. Except all you lucky 4chan virgins. Damn another win for the redpilled.



I commented on my straight guy friends post and said he looks great. He's been on a weight loss journey and I know he's been trying to get back in shape so he can work at the club now that things are reopening.

I didn't run and show my bf this comment though. Did I cheat?

Am I a liar?

He should break up with me right? I clearly am not loyal.

LMAO. It's WILD out here in these streets! 😆

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the wild wild west

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He said wow and thought the girls picture was cute and you broke up with him?



What is loyalty to you? Not telling another girl she is pretty?

What is honesty? Because he didn't run to you and tell you straight away that he liked and commented on a girls picture?

Is this even considered cheating?

People take social media way too seriously.

He didn't even say pretty. He said WOW.

Like, how dare he.

Burn him RIGHT NOW. My pitchfork is ready and sharpened in support of OP

I'm wondering if I'm too passive.

He fuc ked someone and got a pass, but him looking starry eyed on social media was the last straw lol

He fucked someone he met BEFORE her.

By that meter we are all a bunch of cheating slores and jezebels. Except all you lucky 4chan virgins. Damn another win for the redpilled.



I commented on my straight guy friends post and said he looks great. He's been on a weight loss journey and I know he's been trying to get back in shape so he can work at the club now that things are reopening.

I didn't run and show my bf this comment though. Did I cheat?

Am I a liar?

He should break up with me right? I clearly am not loyal.

LMAO. It's WILD out here in these streets! 😆

the wild wild west

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Next up! 😆

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He said wow and thought the girls picture was cute and you broke up with him?



What is loyalty to you? Not telling another girl she is pretty?

What is honesty? Because he didn't run to you and tell you straight away that he liked and commented on a girls picture?

Is this even considered cheating?

People take social media way too seriously.

He didn't even say pretty. He said WOW.

Like, how dare he.

Burn him RIGHT NOW. My pitchfork is ready and sharpened in support of OP

I'm wondering if I'm too passive.

He fuc ked someone and got a pass, but him looking starry eyed on social media was the last straw lol

He fucked someone he met BEFORE her.

By that meter we are all a bunch of cheating slores and jezebels. Except all you lucky 4chan virgins. Damn another win for the redpilled.



I commented on my straight guy friends post and said he looks great. He's been on a weight loss journey and I know he's been trying to get back in shape so he can work at the club now that things are reopening.

I didn't run and show my bf this comment though. Did I cheat?

Am I a liar?

He should break up with me right? I clearly am not loyal.

LMAO. It's WILD out here in these streets! 😆

the wild wild west

Next up! 😆

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Maybe I need to elaborate… he was cheating on me the whole time we were together. I found it in may about it but he was with another girl the whole time from January to may. He gets mad if a guy comments on my social media and we have public banter about it but he messaged a girl to say “wow 🤩 “ if it was so innocent he could’ve publicly said that instead of messaging no—

Didn't he tell you he wasn't ready for a relationship. And you weren't official until may. So it wasn't cheating. Technically.

In fact the other way around, you were the side chick. He met her first.

If there's no trust there is no relationship. You don't need to justify it as being about a 'wow' message. Just tell him you feel like he wasn't honest with you from the beginning and its tainted the way you feel about him.

Actually we were official before that. We made it Fb official in may and we agreed in March we weren’t seeing other people. He told her he didn’t want a relationship but apparently they had agreed not to see other people in January. That’s really what’s it boils down to tho. There’s no trust and I feel like he’s a cheater and liar at this point

Yikes. And did he also bring her around his mother and child?

I bet his kids mom has some fun stories to tell.

According to them no… they all were saying how he doesn’t bring anyone around unless it’s serious and his mom and sister kept saying how they never saw him like this before. Doesn’t make a difference tho… he’s a liar. I think he’s that type when things go good he’s gotta do something to mess it up… idk

I’ve seen that around with my male cousins. The family mom covers up for him so any of that i take with a grain of salt. I think it’s bad how mother support this kind of activity. Is he Hispanic?

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Yes he is

Ruined men seem to be trendy in US. Hard pass

you gonna learn it's difficult for most everyone

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Maybe I need to elaborate… he was cheating on me the whole time we were together. I found it in may about it but he was with another girl the whole time from January to may. He gets mad if a guy comments on my social media and we have public banter about it but he messaged a girl to say “wow 🤩 “ if it was so innocent he could’ve publicly said that instead of messaging no—

Didn't he tell you he wasn't ready for a relationship. And you weren't official until may. So it wasn't cheating. Technically.

In fact the other way around, you were the side chick. He met her first.

If there's no trust there is no relationship. You don't need to justify it as being about a 'wow' message. Just tell him you feel like he wasn't honest with you from the beginning and its tainted the way you feel about him.

Actually we were official before that. We made it Fb official in may and we agreed in March we weren’t seeing other people. He told her he didn’t want a relationship but apparently they had agreed not to see other people in January. That’s really what’s it boils down to tho. There’s no trust and I feel like he’s a cheater and liar at this point

Yikes. And did he also bring her around his mother and child?

I bet his kids mom has some fun stories to tell.

According to them no… they all were saying how he doesn’t bring anyone around unless it’s serious and his mom and sister kept saying how they never saw him like this before. Doesn’t make a difference tho… he’s a liar. I think he’s that type when things go good he’s gotta do something to mess it up… idk

I’ve seen that around with my male cousins. The family mom covers up for him so any of that i take with a grain of salt. I think it’s bad how mother support this kind of activity. Is he Hispanic?

This is why Hispanics cant have nice things. Unstable AF culture. Me included

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Awww, most cultures have an unhealthy dash of toxic masculinity.

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He said wow and thought the girls picture was cute and you broke up with him?



Is this even considered cheating?

No it isn't. This is why I say if you can'y truly move on from something then don't bother getting back together.

Meh, she saved him from years of nagging by breaking it off.

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First of all he should be working on building that trust back n his behavior shows he isn’t. I bet if he hadn’t Cheated no one would care about a wow on a picture. But those are real consequences of your dishonesty.

That's just it, she is the only one that seems to care about him "wowing" the picture. Almost everyone else sees it as low level sketch behaviour because it is. Loyalty doesn't mean the man suddenly goes blind and stops finding women attractive. I suppose she wants him to pretend he doesn't think other women in the world are attractive because that builds trust.

If she had found messages, text messages discussing a hot sexual encounter that occurred recently, or there was an exchange between the two of them that would be one thing. I'd even give her a "okay, that may be an issue, talk to the man about it" if had saved the pic in his phone. Neither of that was the issue. Sounds like his past cheating created insecurity, mistrust and fear in the OP. That's all on him because of his actions, not suggesting it isn't. What is on her though, is making the decision to move forward without truly being ready to move forward with someone she no longer trust. The mere fact that she needs his password to check up on him is a strong indication she should have just kept it moving instead of reconciling. Too many people in the world to stay with someone you simply don't trust anymore.

What are your signs??

Run!!! And never come back or considering.

I have same experience.

I was once met someone also only for hookup, but how he approached me was different. After a while our conversation went to how we see relationship etc, so I thought his aim is now different. He is also over controlling (he said himself no other parties)

Everything was great when I was with him, but he keeps getting back to his dating app when he is not with me.

After couple months of intense meet up and conversation, I started to ask what we are (because I know what he did behind me) . He always said things I wanted to hear, but his behavior behind me never changed.

I need to explained to him the common sense about relationship and being exclusive. Never Understand.

And so is that, he never change. Player always lie. He said what we want to hear, but always do what he want.

Very toxic, I don't understand why he need to lead me on and lying. If his aim just hookup or casual dating , I was up for it already

I did run LoL i should’ve ran a long time ago but it’s been almost three weeks and I haven’t heard from him and I haven’t reached out either.

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I met a guy in January we have been crazy about each other

Let me stop you right there

Why is this even something to worry about?

You dumped him.

Move along with life