men, are you really a stickler for your woman to be a certain way?

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for example,

if you wanted to marry a skinny woman, she must remain skinny even when she reaches middle age and menopause (which incidentally, menopausal women will gain weight and cannot be skinny like a 20 something anymore)

Also, when she is in her senior years,she must remain stagnantly skinny or a certain way for you to be with her.

or....what if she becomes sick and blind,and she can no longer be able to see what she's cleaning or cooking anymore? Will you leave her because she is of NO use to you anymore?

What if she has a full time work/career and you were counting on her income to keep you both up and then she was laid off and can't find work in her field anymore cause she is too old, maybe not too old, but middle aged? are you going to throw her out because she is no longer serving your financial bracket??

these are questions that can be detrimental for the long haul, till death do you part stuff.

how STRICT are you when it comes to your SO, and what types of delusions/illusions are you willing to put up until (reality) shows up at your door when they, your partner can no longer do the things you want them to do? due to aging, health issues and other blockages that prevent her from becoming the little superwoman you fell for or wanted in the early stages?

This is the,"for richer and poor, for sickness and in health" till death do us part...

which is in the marriage vows, but when the going gets TOUGH...a lot of people bail out.

I notice that.
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"Till death do us part"?

I'm thinking that the vow should be more along the lines of, "Until irreconcilable differences lead us asunder."

And I am not even kidding. The divorce rate is ridiculously high, and only gets higher the younger you are. I'd say a low, and I do mean a VERY low percentage of the total population can actually make this commitment to one person until the end of their days at a young age. And this usually comes after a fairly large portion of life has already been lived.

When it comes to aging. Yeah, we age. It's part of the life cycle, but that doesn't mean you throw in the towel. I've known very attractive post menopausal women, who ARE THIN. One thing you don't ever hear them say is, "Oh, I've had three kids, and you just lose it, you know?" They say, "I have three kids but that isn't stopping me."

It's one thing to live, it's another to be alive, and a lively partner I will always want around whether we are married or not.
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"Till death do us part"?

I'm thinking that the vow should be more along the lines of, "Until irreconcilable differences lead us asunder."

And I am not even kidding. The divorce rate is ridiculously high, and only gets higher the younger you are. I'd say a low, and I do mean a VERY low percentage of the total population can actually make this commitment to one person until the end of their days at a young age. And this usually comes after a fairly large portion of life has already been lived.

When it comes to aging. Yeah, we age. It's part of the life cycle, but that doesn't mean you throw in the towel. I've known very attractive post menopausal women, who ARE THIN. One thing you don't ever hear them say is, "Oh, I've had three kids, and you just lose it, you know?" They say, "I have three kids but that isn't stopping me."

It's one thing to live, it's another to be alive, and a lively partner I will always want around whether we are married or not.
Thanks for sticking it IN MY FACE!!!
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"Till death do us part"?

I'm thinking that the vow should be more along the lines of, "Until irreconcilable differences lead us asunder."

And I am not even kidding. The divorce rate is ridiculously high, and only gets higher the younger you are. I'd say a low, and I do mean a VERY low percentage of the total population can actually make this commitment to one person until the end of their days at a young age. And this usually comes after a fairly large portion of life has already been lived.

When it comes to aging. Yeah, we age. It's part of the life cycle, but that doesn't mean you throw in the towel. I've known very attractive post menopausal women, who ARE THIN. One thing you don't ever hear them say is, "Oh, I've had three kids, and you just lose it, you know?" They say, "I have three kids but that isn't stopping me."

It's one thing to live, it's another to be alive, and a lively partner I will always want around whether we are married or not.
Thanks for sticking it IN MY FACE!!!
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Nope. Just brought it to the surface. Everything I just said you already know. Just call me Captain Hindsight.

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It depends....

If he decides to let himself go, then he shouldn't hold an unrealstic expectation of the woman he married.

I'm 40 years of age and I take very good care of myself.

I had to encourage my man to do the same because he was letting himself go.

Funny,

I see plenty of women who had children who kept in shape over the years, some in menopuasal women as well.

But the men, with no post-bearing children and menopuase to blame, I don't see the excuses for the chubby belly, man boobies, non existent neck, and fat face really.

Just my .02
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"Till death do us part"?

I'm thinking that the vow should be more along the lines of, "Until irreconcilable differences lead us asunder."

And I am not even kidding. The divorce rate is ridiculously high, and only gets higher the younger you are. I'd say a low, and I do mean a VERY low percentage of the total population can actually make this commitment to one person until the end of their days at a young age. And this usually comes after a fairly large portion of life has already been lived.

When it comes to aging. Yeah, we age. It's part of the life cycle, but that doesn't mean you throw in the towel. I've known very attractive post menopausal women, who ARE THIN. One thing you don't ever hear them say is, "Oh, I've had three kids, and you just lose it, you know?" They say, "I have three kids but that isn't stopping me."

It's one thing to live, it's another to be alive, and a lively partner I will always want around whether we are married or not.
Thanks for sticking it IN MY FACE!!!

Nope. Just brought it to the surface. Everything I just said you already know. Just call me Captain Hindsight.

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I think people should be married until children are on their own!

By that time most are so sick of each other so they deserve freedom! Aren't we?
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"Till death do us part"?

I'm thinking that the vow should be more along the lines of, "Until irreconcilable differences lead us asunder."

And I am not even kidding. The divorce rate is ridiculously high, and only gets higher the younger you are. I'd say a low, and I do mean a VERY low percentage of the total population can actually make this commitment to one person until the end of their days at a young age. And this usually comes after a fairly large portion of life has already been lived.

When it comes to aging. Yeah, we age. It's part of the life cycle, but that doesn't mean you throw in the towel. I've known very attractive post menopausal women, who ARE THIN. One thing you don't ever hear them say is, "Oh, I've had three kids, and you just lose it, you know?" They say, "I have three kids but that isn't stopping me."

It's one thing to live, it's another to be alive, and a lively partner I will always want around whether we are married or not.
Thanks for sticking it IN MY FACE!!!

Nope. Just brought it to the surface. Everything I just said you already know. Just call me Captain Hindsight.


You didn't get it but it's ok๐Ÿ™‚

I think people should be married until children are on their own!

By that time most are so sick of each other so they deserve freedom! Aren't we?
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Oh no, I got it. My initial response was an inappropriate innuendo, but didn't want to offend ๐Ÿ˜‰

I beg to differ though. They should get married after the children have left the nest.

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Posted by Crabra
"Till death do us part"?

I'm thinking that the vow should be more along the lines of, "Until irreconcilable differences lead us asunder."

And I am not even kidding. The divorce rate is ridiculously high, and only gets higher the younger you are. I'd say a low, and I do mean a VERY low percentage of the total population can actually make this commitment to one person until the end of their days at a young age. And this usually comes after a fairly large portion of life has already been lived.

When it comes to aging. Yeah, we age. It's part of the life cycle, but that doesn't mean you throw in the towel. I've known very attractive post menopausal women, who ARE THIN. One thing you don't ever hear them say is, "Oh, I've had three kids, and you just lose it, you know?" They say, "I have three kids but that isn't stopping me."

It's one thing to live, it's another to be alive, and a lively partner I will always want around whether we are married or not.
crabra, are you with anyone right now?

just wondering....

cause it would be great to see that long term relationship and see it's effects.



anyway thanks. you're right...

but it's normal that people do get down in the dumps when they get problems with weight or aging.

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It depends....

If he decides to let himself go, then he shouldn't hold an unrealstic expectation of the woman he married.

I'm 40 years of age and I take very good care of myself.

I had to encourage my man to do the same because he was letting himself go.

Funny,

I see plenty of women who had children who kept in shape over the years, some in menopuasal women as well.

But the men, with no post-bearing children and menopuase to blame, I don't see the excuses for the chubby belly, man boobies, non existent neck, and fat face really.

Just my .02


although I like what you said,



it's not always realistic.

if he gains a little belly i'm not fazed by that at all.

if he tries to keep in shape, i'm super happy with that too!

I honestly don't like too much of an active guy though.....

I like something in between.
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"Till death do us part"?

I'm thinking that the vow should be more along the lines of, "Until irreconcilable differences lead us asunder."

And I am not even kidding. The divorce rate is ridiculously high, and only gets higher the younger you are. I'd say a low, and I do mean a VERY low percentage of the total population can actually make this commitment to one person until the end of their days at a young age. And this usually comes after a fairly large portion of life has already been lived.

When it comes to aging. Yeah, we age. It's part of the life cycle, but that doesn't mean you throw in the towel. I've known very attractive post menopausal women, who ARE THIN. One thing you don't ever hear them say is, "Oh, I've had three kids, and you just lose it, you know?" They say, "I have three kids but that isn't stopping me."

It's one thing to live, it's another to be alive, and a lively partner I will always want around whether we are married or not.
crabra, are you with anyone right now?

just wondering....

cause it would be great to see that long term relationship and see it's effects.



anyway thanks. you're right...

but it's normal that people do get down in the dumps when they get problems with weight or aging.

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Currently I am not. However, longevity in relationships is tricky. Someone married for 20+ years would see my longest relationship of 4 years as maybe a moderate amount of time at the most. But someone who doesn't even have a year under their belt would likely see it as a really long time to be with someone.

Fact of the matter is, we change so much as we age. Physically, we age the fastest when we are infants, and then it slows down drastically once reaching adulthood. Mentally though is a process that is constantly flowing and changing, and it makes sustaining a long term relationship very difficult.

You can bee 100% compatible with someone today, and 0% compatible with the same person a short amount of years later. So even those who have gone the distance, I wonder exactly if they are happy in their marriage, or just complacent. Couples who are very much in love still break up when differences are too great. Indeed, compatibility is even more important than love to keep people together. I don't believe love is required to keep a relationship going, but it IS required for it to remain happy.



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If she's starts wearing Converses then that's just a smart way for her to get me to end it without her having to the dirty work herself. Very cunning of her (tips hat)
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I absolutely ROCK my high-top Chucks with the cat pattern! โ€” Problem is, I've had them for years, so the pattern has faded a lot. โ˜น๏ธ

TIME TO GET A NEW PAIR! ๐Ÿ˜„
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Posted by lisabethur8
for example,

if you wanted to marry a skinny woman, she must remain skinny even when she reaches middle age and menopause (which incidentally, menopausal women will gain weight and cannot be skinny like a 20 something anymore)

Also, when she is in her senior years,she must remain stagnantly skinny or a certain way for you to be with her.

or....what if she becomes sick and blind,and she can no longer be able to see what she's cleaning or cooking anymore? Will you leave her because she is of NO use to you anymore?

What if she has a full time work/career and you were counting on her income to keep you both up and then she was laid off and can't find work in her field anymore cause she is too old, maybe not too old, but middle aged? are you going to throw her out because she is no longer serving your financial bracket??

these are questions that can be detrimental for the long haul, till death do you part stuff.

how STRICT are you when it comes to your SO, and what types of delusions/illusions are you willing to put up until (reality) shows up at your door when they, your partner can no longer do the things you want them to do? due to aging, health issues and other blockages that prevent her from becoming the little superwoman you fell for or wanted in the early stages?

This is the,"for richer and poor, for sickness and in health" till death do us part...

which is in the marriage vows, but when the going gets TOUGH...a lot of people bail out.

I notice that.
I think the trick is for both partners to adopt a healthy eating and exercising life style . They will both naturally be healthier and fitter throughout the latter years in life. I've seen grandma yogis and older women who lift who are flexible and toned, even more so than the younger women who take for granted their skinniness and only look...squishy.
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If she's starts wearing Converses then that's just a smart way for her to get me to end it without her having to the dirty work herself. Very cunning of her (tips hat)
Isn't that shallow?

What if she had broken her bone and can't wear heels? Would you be with her out of pitty? Or start seeing heel wearers?

Whew, Tiz. How dissapoing...
I like it.

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What do you like? Being shallow?
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I stopped dating a guy who cut off his dreadlocks. I lost all sexual attraction to him.

Although with my sag, he cut his hair and i didnt care caused i loved him.

I gained weight when i was unemployed, sag mentioned it and i didnt get mad, i took what he said as love and dropped the weight.


Keeping each other honest in terms of weight and health (which ultimately affects physical and sexual attraction) is one of the best things two people can do for their coupling.
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If she's starts wearing Converses then that's just a smart way for her to get me to end it without her having to the dirty work herself. Very cunning of her (tips hat)
Isn't that shallow?

What if she had broken her bone and can't wear heels? Would you be with her out of pitty? Or start seeing heel wearers?

Whew, Tiz. How dissapoing...
omg you ruined the joke... again ?
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If she's starts wearing Converses then that's just a smart way for her to get me to end it without her having to the dirty work herself. Very cunning of her (tips hat)
Converse makes these for the Japanese market. They're quite comfortable.



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Converse is huge in Japan. When I was there, it was extremely common to see people wear them. Especially white Chuck Taylor's.
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I see the ankle white Chucks EVERYWHERE, but I rarely ever see girls rocking the high tops. Those heeled Converse are...creative. ๐Ÿ˜†
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If she's starts wearing Converses then that's just a smart way for her to get me to end it without her having to the dirty work herself. Very cunning of her (tips hat)
Converse makes these for the Japanese market. They're quite comfortable.



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*faints*

Pleeeease come in black?!

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They make a black and white pair, slightly different style :

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I can send you links to where I bought them (ebay vendor) via PM is you like.