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So like with water signs like cancer and Pisces , they might dislike them but they try to understand them

But when Virgo, usually when someone dislike people of this sign , They really hate Virgo .

Do you think it criticism and judgemental ?

No one want to look into our criticism and try to understand them like they try to do with emotion for the water sign.

When really ... instead of thinking we criticize people because we think we're better than them, trying to understand us would show we actually criticize to help the ones we love and we criticize ourselves the most ?

What do you think might be some other things that put off people about virgos ? Detachment ? Too logical ?
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Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShow
Pussies who can't handle criticism aka Libras. And you'll get no detachment from a Virgo if you handle with care & patience.
Have you had bad experience with libra . For some reason they don't last long in my life but the friendship would be good while it lasted . They were really easy to read and understand though , probably because my mercury in libra .

And true about the detachment
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Posted by lovecraftian
The one I particularly knew was all talk and no action. Did not feel compelled to be responsible or build self respect by making choices which would improve himself, instead slides through life within the court system, living off his family and food stamps, yet gets his kicks off tearing down others. Thief. No boundaries and little impulse control. I recognize that he is by no means representative of the sign as a whole but that's my experience
I'm sorry I think that was just a shitty person regardless of astrology from the way it sounds . Off with his head

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Posted by Tom_Sawyer
Perhaps it's because Virgos are real hard to change, unlike many other signs,

they see through your bs, understand your manipulations and bla bla bla.
Correction they THINK they do. Mines used to constantly make stabs in the dark-I think he was right on average maybe 2/10 times-but that was enough for him, and not that he acknowledged or apologised for the other 8 times he was so off. Total waste of time.
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Posted by magma
Nothing invites hatred like being scorned, so if you're referring to what you see on DXP, I would say that's the number one reason. It's not just about Virgos, you'll see the same pattern on any of the Sun sign forums.

Notice that when people are here to complain, they never describe partners that are all in. As the thread develops you can usually see why.










Do you mean as in the perspective are from a person scorned ? So it makes that sign look bad ?
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Posted by lovecraftian
The one I particularly knew was all talk and no action. Did not feel compelled to be responsible or build self respect by making choices which would improve himself, instead slides through life within the court system, living off his family and food stamps, yet gets his kicks off tearing down others. Thief. No boundaries and little impulse control. I recognize that he is by no means representative of the sign as a whole but that's my experience
EXACTLY the same as the Virgo I knew. Except he was loaded so it was the same but different. Eg no motivation to better himself, lived off fam money etc etc
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And virgos like me ๐Ÿ˜›
As a Virgo moon, I can assure you that's not the case.

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oh no It's so hard losing the opinion of people you respect. ๐Ÿ˜ข
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If I was concerned with other people's respect, my deer, I'd let my sunny disposition out more often.
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Pussies who can't handle criticism aka Libras. And you'll get no detachment from a Virgo if you handle with care & patience.
Have you had bad experience with libra . For some reason they don't last long in my life but the friendship would be good while it lasted . They were really easy to read and understand though , probably because my mercury in libra .

And true about the detachment
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Plenty of Libra experience to last several lifetimes. Libras are only good when things are good. When the going gets tough and they're expected to make an effort, they get going. No spine.

On the detachment side of things, that happens only when we have enough reasons to shun others out of our lives. My family are a prime example of that, I got tons of reasons to not want them anywhere near me. My beautiful Virgo boy, on the other hand: I've treated him good since day 1, he reciprocates. We've never fought, never argued, just pure understanding & in sync.
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Perhaps it's because Virgos are real hard to change, unlike many other signs,

they see through your bs, understand your manipulations and bla bla bla.
Correction they THINK they do. Mines used to constantly make stabs in the dark-I think he was right on average maybe 2/10 times-but that was enough for him, and not that he acknowledged or apologised for the other 8 times he was so off. Total waste of time.
Don't correct me, I don't give two fucks about your opinion.

Your Virgo most likely hadn't yet evolved into his true form, hence still "stabbing in the dark".

But he'll learn at some point and when he masters what needs to be mastered and chooses to get even, he will and if he's a real "Virgo", he'll remember all of your stupid asses and make you suffer.

Apologizing, a waste of time?

That's the only thing I can agree on that came out of your mind.

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Perhaps it's because Virgos are real hard to change, unlike many other signs,

they see through your bs, understand your manipulations and bla bla bla.
Correction they THINK they do. Mines used to constantly make stabs in the dark-I think he was right on average maybe 2/10 times-but that was enough for him, and not that he acknowledged or apologised for the other 8 times he was so off. Total waste of time.
Don't correct me, I don't give two fucks about your opinion.

Your Virgo most likely hadn't yet evolved into his true form, hence still "stabbing in the dark".

But he'll learn at some point and when he masters what needs to be mastered and chooses to get even, he will and if he's a real "Virgo", he'll remember all of your stupid asses and make you suffer.

Apologizing, a waste of time?

That's the only thing I can agree on that came out of your mind.


I feel the pain in all that venom ๐Ÿ˜ข
Well whoopty fuckin do.
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Pussies who can't handle criticism aka Libras. And you'll get no detachment from a Virgo if you handle with care & patience.
Have you had bad experience with libra . For some reason they don't last long in my life but the friendship would be good while it lasted . They were really easy to read and understand though , probably because my mercury in libra .

And true about the detachment
Plenty of Libra experience to last several lifetimes. Libras are only good when things are good. When the going gets tough and they're expected to make an effort, they get going. No spine.

On the detachment side of things, that happens only when we have enough reasons to shun others out of our lives. My family are a prime example of that, I got tons of reasons to not want them anywhere near me. My beautiful Virgo boy, on the other hand: I've treated him good since day 1, he reciprocates. We've never fought, never argued, just pure understanding & in sync.
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Mmmmmm I have to disagree with this one. I'd say much of the time they can be the opposite and don't know when to call it a day. Easy to love does not love easily so when we do its major-its an investment for us, and one that is difficult to chuck it all in and walk.
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Posted by coldwateryvirgo
they might dislike them but they try to understand them [...] They really hate Virgo
First off, no one really hates Virgo or any other sign. You'd have to be on par of delusion in an extreme minority to hate an entire sign. And if you are...again, it's an extreme minority. So put that assumption out of your mind unless you derive some joy out of imagining you're hated. If so...continue.

Understanding...well there are patterns here. First off you should be able to notice 2 things if you lurk on this site or have been here long enough.

1) People on the Virgo board will answer topics. There are ghost sign boards here where few members of that board actually answer.

2) If you look at Virgo posters history from the beginning you will notice how much thought they used to pour into their replies to help people. And then you will see how they evolved to either not be here anymore or answer sarcastically. There is a reason for that, I will elaborate below:

Pattern:

Person A arrives on the Virgo board with a topic asking about X Virgo behavior. Some people even add "Give it to me straight" "Be real"..which is laughable in the light of what happens.

Virgos answer. Each with their own interpretation of how they saw the situation.

Person A:

- I KNEW IT! JUST LIKE MY EX!

- You're insulting

- How dare you?

- That's NOT what happened (mkay, why did you need advice then if you know the answer?)

- Typical Virgo

so on and so forth

Virgo reaction to that: WTF. I was explaining how I saw it in my analysis. It has no bearing on how you are as a person, just how I saw your behavior from the details provided. Dude I don't even know you in real life, we were discussing a scenario in a detached manner.

Person A: YOU HATE ME! BURN IN HELL

Virgo: Umm no. I mean I don't agree with you on this at all but that doesn't mean we wouldn't agree on other things. I don't wish a train would run over you wtf.

Person A: You lie! You probably already tied me to the tracks.

....they wanted real talk right? lmao, wrong.

Then Person B comes around and it's like dejavu. So on all the way to say person L.

Person L is genuine. Actually wants to understand Virgos. Unfortunately by that time Virgos have reached a point of "Why bother?" and are only able to offer memes, dismissal, sarcasm. Person leaves the topic thinking we are douchebags. And they are right to think so, they didn't deserve that so there's no excuse.

People underestimate how much we overthink and how much energy this takes from us. Add to that the insane idea that people think they have a right to not be offended so they prance to life thinking the world should abide by that divine prerogative...so when they ask for a real answer and they get it...they really can't deal.
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As for what is the most common complaint...you either go by the Virgo board or real life experience. If you want to be fair it should be testimonies of people who have dealt with Virgos, not Virgos themselves.

Maybe we should type lists out of what was brought to our attention from people who know us well and then compile all the data from all of us and see what issue sticks out.
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Posted by Damnata
Posted by coldwateryvirgo
they might dislike them but they try to understand them [...] They really hate Virgo
First off, no one really hates Virgo or any other sign. You'd have to be on par of delusion in an extreme minority to hate an entire sign. And if you are...again, it's an extreme minority. So put that assumption out of your mind unless you derive some joy out of imagining you're hated. If so...continue.

Understanding...well there are patterns here. First off you should be able to notice 2 things if you lurk on this site or have been here long enough.

1) People on the Virgo board will answer topics. There are ghost sign boards here where few members of that board actually answer.

2) If you look at Virgo posters history from the beginning you will notice how much thought they used to pour into their replies to help people. And then you will see how they evolved to either not be here anymore or answer sarcastically. There is a reason for that, I will elaborate below:

Pattern:

Person A arrives on the Virgo board with a topic asking about X Virgo behavior. Some people even add "Give it to me straight" "Be real"..which is laughable in the light of what happens.

Virgos answer. Each with their own interpretation of how they saw the situation.

Person A:

- I KNEW IT! JUST LIKE MY EX!

- You're insulting

- How dare you?

- That's NOT what happened (mkay, why did you need advice then if you know the answer?)

- Typical Virgo

so on and so forth

Virgo reaction to that: WTF. I was explaining how I saw it in my analysis. It has no bearing on how you are as a person, just how I saw your behavior from the details provided. Dude I don't even know you in real life, we were discussing a scenario in a detached manner.

Person A: YOU HATE ME! BURN IN HELL

Virgo: Umm no. I mean I don't agree with you on this at all but that doesn't mean we wouldn't agree on other things. I don't wish a train would run over you wtf.

Person A: You lie! You probably already tied me to the tracks.

....they wanted real talk right? lmao, wrong.

Then Person B comes around and it's like dejavu. So on all the way to say person L.

Person L is genuine. Actually wants to understand Virgos. Unfortunately by that time Virgos have reached a point of "Why bother?" and are only able to offer memes, dismissal, sarcasm. Person leaves the topic thinking we are douchebags. And they are right to think so, they didn't deserve that so there's no excuse.

People underestimate how much we overthink and how much energy this takes from us. Add to that the insane idea that people think they have a right to not be offended so they prance to life thinking the world should abide by that divine prerogative...so when they ask for a real answer and they get it...they really can't deal.
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I think it's the critiscism. I personally know a lot of people who can't take critiscism. I don't mind it, I actually like critiscism.

I don't hate Virgos, but What I don't like is that pretty much every Virgo I've known (and I know A LOT of Virgos) is shady. All of them have done something that led me to not trust them. All of them tried to be sneaky about it, but I can see thru their bullshit. My ex best friend was a Virgo. Her shady ass kept trying to break me and my bf up because she hates him (I think she secretly likes him), and because she was jealous that I hung out with him more than I did with her when we first started dating. She would make shit up about him so I would stay away from him. She would tell him things about me to make him stay away. I believed her because she was blunt. So I assumed because she's blunt, she has no reason to lie, then one day I caught her lying about something that almost led me to breaking up with my bf. Psh... So much time and energy into a relationship that isn't yours. Sad lol
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The only thing that's come up for me with the virgos in my life, no matter if family, friends or partner, is that they become incredibly self-righteous, especially when they're in the wrong. I had a friend who got into a car accident because he was speeding and intoxicated. To this day he blames everything else; the street, the wind, the car, bad luck, but not his behavior.

My best friend and I had long conversations about her feelings whenever there's a conflict and I understand more where this is coming from and what (control) issues play into this, but yeah. Not the best Virgo trait.
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Posted by Damnata
Posted by coldwateryvirgo
they might dislike them but they try to understand them [...] They really hate Virgo
First off, no one really hates Virgo or any other sign. You'd have to be on par of delusion in an extreme minority to hate an entire sign. And if you are...again, it's an extreme minority. So put that assumption out of your mind unless you derive some joy out of imagining you're hated. If so...continue.

Understanding...well there are patterns here. First off you should be able to notice 2 things if you lurk on this site or have been here long enough.

1) People on the Virgo board will answer topics. There are ghost sign boards here where few members of that board actually answer.

2) If you look at Virgo posters history from the beginning you will notice how much thought they used to pour into their replies to help people. And then you will see how they evolved to either not be here anymore or answer sarcastically. There is a reason for that, I will elaborate below:

Pattern:

Person A arrives on the Virgo board with a topic asking about X Virgo behavior. Some people even add "Give it to me straight" "Be real"..which is laughable in the light of what happens.

Virgos answer. Each with their own interpretation of how they saw the situation.

Person A:

- I KNEW IT! JUST LIKE MY EX!

- You're insulting

- How dare you?

- That's NOT what happened (mkay, why did you need advice then if you know the answer?)

- Typical Virgo

so on and so forth

Virgo reaction to that: WTF. I was explaining how I saw it in my analysis. It has no bearing on how you are as a person, just how I saw your behavior from the details provided. Dude I don't even know you in real life, we were discussing a scenario in a detached manner.

Person A: YOU HATE ME! BURN IN HELL

Virgo: Umm no. I mean I don't agree with you on this at all but that doesn't mean we wouldn't agree on other things. I don't wish a train would run over you wtf.

Person A: You lie! You probably already tied me to the tracks.

....they wanted real talk right? lmao, wrong.

Then Person B comes around and it's like dejavu. So on all the way to say person L.

Person L is genuine. Actually wants to understand Virgos. Unfortunately by that time Virgos have reached a point of "Why bother?" and are only able to offer memes, dismissal, sarcasm. Person leaves the topic thinking we are douchebags. And they are right to think so, they didn't deserve that so there's no excuse.

People underestimate how much we overthink and how much energy this takes from us. Add to that the insane idea that people think they have a right to not be offended so they prance to life thinking the world should abide by that divine prerogative...so when they ask for a real answer and they get it...they really can't deal.
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Makes sense lol I can only be on dxp for so long because I feel drain from putting myself into their shoes to help answer a concern . So I only check the site once a month when I'm feeling like I have room to think about other people lol
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Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
You guys are really stupid and it shows your complete delusion if you think people hate you because if criticism.

1) Shady, extremely shady, especially the women. Never trustworthy

2) Selfish

3) users, they are not as giving as stated on boards, in fact they can be users, but it's subtle

4) envious, jealous. Never happy for others

5) extremely disrespectful. They don't respect friendships or relationships, why you get so many posts and threads of virgo cheating or trying to get with their friends man

6) zero honor or loyalty. In the end they're only loyal to themselves. At the very core they're selfish.

7) they're liars, yes they lie and pretend they're interested in honesty.

8) they see good people as a weakness, if you treat them like sheet they act better, but if you're good to them they hate it and resent it

9) they're thirsty, they're always thirsty

10) they never take blame for anything so they never grow.



I think virgos are the worst people I've come across and I've been around many.

They're devoid of compassion for others. Completely self absorbed, mean, boring, calculating

Just overall a waste of space
This advice here is an example of what I mean , when one dislike a sign , they can't find one good thing . It happens to every sign I know. But does a hate for a certain sign come from repeated bad experience ? Or just one ? I hate things about all signs but I feel like there's good even in the ones that piss me off so it's hard for me to truly dislike one even if I have a bad experience . So was your experience with virgos just all bad ? As in you can't find one good thing about them ? Because clearly just thinking the reason some people dislike Virgo for criticizing people all the time make me delusional >.< lol

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Posted by coldwateryvirgo

I can only be on dxp for so long because I feel drain from putting myself into their shoes to help answer a concern .




What bullshit !!!!

Virgos don't put themselves in other people's shoes ... they may even be incapable of it.

Of all the things said in this thread, this one sentence above proves that Virgos have no self awareness.

People don't get upset because the Virgo corrects them or criticizes them ... they get upset because the Virgo never took that person into consideration before criticizing or correcting. The Virgo bases everything off of what they want, what they feel, what they think is beneficial ..... and NEVER what the other person actually wants/feels/needs.



that is the opposite of putting yourself in the other person's shoe. And here you are priding yourself, and believing you should be honored for your woe of what you endure in being empathetic ... when you're not that at all ..... you're selfish, NOT selfless.



But, Virgos have no clue to this ... they think they are the epitome of giving of themselves for another, when really they are only giving for themselves, so that they can feel good about giving.



Everything else said in here didn't hit a nerve, so carry on ......

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Posted by Damnata
Posted by coldwateryvirgo
they might dislike them but they try to understand them [...] They really hate Virgo
First off, no one really hates Virgo or any other sign. You'd have to be on par of delusion in an extreme minority to hate an entire sign. And if you are...again, it's an extreme minority. So put that assumption out of your mind unless you derive some joy out of imagining you're hated. If so...continue.

Understanding...well there are patterns here. First off you should be able to notice 2 things if you lurk on this site or have been here long enough.

1) People on the Virgo board will answer topics. There are ghost sign boards here where few members of that board actually answer.

2) If you look at Virgo posters history from the beginning you will notice how much thought they used to pour into their replies to help people. And then you will see how they evolved to either not be here anymore or answer sarcastically. There is a reason for that, I will elaborate below:

Pattern:

Person A arrives on the Virgo board with a topic asking about X Virgo behavior. Some people even add "Give it to me straight" "Be real"..which is laughable in the light of what happens.

Virgos answer. Each with their own interpretation of how they saw the situation.

Person A:

- I KNEW IT! JUST LIKE MY EX!

- You're insulting

- How dare you?

- That's NOT what happened (mkay, why did you need advice then if you know the answer?)

- Typical Virgo

so on and so forth

Virgo reaction to that: WTF. I was explaining how I saw it in my analysis. It has no bearing on how you are as a person, just how I saw your behavior from the details provided. Dude I don't even know you in real life, we were discussing a scenario in a detached manner.

Person A: YOU HATE ME! BURN IN HELL

Virgo: Umm no. I mean I don't agree with you on this at all but that doesn't mean we wouldn't agree on other things. I don't wish a train would run over you wtf.

Person A: You lie! You probably already tied me to the tracks.

....they wanted real talk right? lmao, wrong.

Then Person B comes around and it's like dejavu. So on all the way to say person L.

Person L is genuine. Actually wants to understand Virgos. Unfortunately by that time Virgos have reached a point of "Why bother?" and are only able to offer memes, dismissal, sarcasm. Person leaves the topic thinking we are douchebags. And they are right to think so, they didn't deserve that so there's no excuse.

People underestimate how much we overthink and how much energy this takes from us. Add to that the insane idea that people think they have a right to not be offended so they prance to life thinking the world should abide by that divine prerogative...so when they ask for a real answer and they get it...they really can't deal.
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This is truth. I only answer thoughtfully to people who are open minded (and want to actually learn about Virgos) or people I believe will take what I say with a grain of salt.

I've said it so many times; people who ask the same question over and over about the same Virgo (or any other sign) person obviously is waiting for this board to give them a different answer, which we won't. Until we just stop caring and answer in sarcasm.

Other than that, it's sarcasm and memes all the way for me

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Posted by coldwateryvirgo

I can only be on dxp for so long because I feel drain from putting myself into their shoes to help answer a concern .




What bullshit !!!!

Virgos don't put themselves in other people's shoes ... they may even be incapable of it.

Of all the things said in this thread, this one sentence above proves that Virgos have no self awareness.

People don't get upset because the Virgo corrects them or criticizes them ... they get upset because the Virgo never took that person into consideration before criticizing or correcting. The Virgo bases everything off of what they want, what they feel, what they think is beneficial ..... and NEVER what the other person actually wants/feels/needs.



that is the opposite of putting yourself in the other person's shoe. And here you are priding yourself, and believing you should be honored for your woe of what you endure in being empathetic ... when you're not that at all ..... you're selfish, NOT selfless.



But, Virgos have no clue to this ... they think they are the epitome of giving of themselves for another, when really they are only giving for themselves, so that they can feel good about giving.



Everything else said in here didn't hit a nerve, so carry on ......

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"Didn't hit a nerve" LMFAOOOOO ? Didn't realize that this thread was aimed at "what's wrong with Pisces"
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Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
You guys are really stupid and it shows your complete delusion if you think people hate you because if criticism.

1) Shady, extremely shady, especially the women. Never trustworthy

2) Selfish

3) users, they are not as giving as stated on boards, in fact they can be users, but it's subtle

4) envious, jealous. Never happy for others

5) extremely disrespectful. They don't respect friendships or relationships, why you get so many posts and threads of virgo cheating or trying to get with their friends man

6) zero honor or loyalty. In the end they're only loyal to themselves. At the very core they're selfish.

7) they're liars, yes they lie and pretend they're interested in honesty.

8) they see good people as a weakness, if you treat them like sheet they act better, but if you're good to them they hate it and resent it

9) they're thirsty, they're always thirsty

10) they never take blame for anything so they never grow.



I think virgos are the worst people I've come across and I've been around many.

They're devoid of compassion for others. Completely self absorbed, mean, boring, calculating

Just overall a waste of space
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... self-righteous, ...

My Virgo sis is self-righteous.

But I don't think it is related to her Sun. I'd say it is her Sag South Node.

I cannot recall the word self-righteous/ness) in sections about the sign of Virgo.

Sign descriptions are for me closed cases. Astrology community may be gathering suggestions about the impact of astroids and such. But the catalogue of sign traits is in my eyes no object of negotiation.
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3) users, they are not as giving as stated on boards, in fact they can be users, but it's subtle

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9) ... always thirsty

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Transit Saturn is conjuncting my natal Venus, at times Mars too. So I got a real deal with my Virgo sister.

I told her clearly to understand: she is so obsessed to make the best of her time, learn and educate herself, meet different friends in a small span of time, and so on, that she is not noticing that she instrumentalized PEOPLE.

Virgo is helper&healer to those who are in a poor state. But it is a user to those who can act as their extended arms/hands/eyes/brains. Something like Robin Hood. My sister steals time and effort from me to transfer it partially to other gayls in need. of course partially it's only feeding her built-in imperative to permanently-improve-herself.
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... For example, bashing someone (strangers, close friend) for being overweight and needing to lose weight in order to get pregnant when she had the same problem. It was a turn off for me and I told her that she shouldn't judge people like that. The other virgos I knew had similar problem where they are quick to judge people and never really looking at themselves, that they lacked the same thing as well.

Do you know what? Your post reminds me of the old good question, "can we change the future if we were informed what will happen in future?".

In other words:

if you read somewhere that 6th house or Virgo is programmed to be sensitive/narrative/imperative about health, details, daily routine, perfectionism, logical analysis, reading etc....

if you read that, would you still call your frined's behaviour bashing? wasn't she only being herself the way God/Universe/Aliens want to have her?

Can a Virg be not-virgoish?
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... self-righteous, ...

My Virgo sis is self-righteous.

But I don't think it is related to her Sun. I'd say it is her Sag South Node.

I cannot recall the word self-righteous/ness) in sections about the sign of Virgo.

Sign descriptions are for me closed cases. Astrology community may be gathering suggestions about the impact of astroids and such. But the catalogue of sign traits is in my eyes no object of negotiation.
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I wasn't going off a general reading, but specific experiences. I think it's self-preservation/protection though. At least among the folks I was referring to. They're all very vulnerable and sensitive individuals.
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@DiamondAce, I think I need to read reference books once again. Maybe I have forgotten what they say about Virgos.

My approach to Astrology is this way: which traits are listed in the old books? does the person I know with that sign or placement this trait or not?

So I do not start from my observation. I start from the book.

Also I think everybody has a dark side. And it is absolutely waste of euphoria if we think we have found the person whom we know as the best and loyales etc. Maybe I see too much. I have never seen one person which was not diappointing in a certain scenario.
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So like with water signs like cancer and Pisces , they might dislike them but they try to understand them

But when Virgo, usually when someone dislike people of this sign , They really hate Virgo .

Do you think it criticism and judgemental ?

No one want to look into our criticism and try to understand them like they try to do with emotion for the water sign.

When really ... instead of thinking we criticize people because we think we're better than them, trying to understand us would show we actually criticize to help the ones we love and we criticize ourselves the most ?

What do you think might be some other things that put off people about virgos ? Detachment ? Too logical ?
this is the first time i'm hearing this but so far all the girls i know love virgos. then they meet me lolz but most people impression on virgos are usually positive. but virgos wicked muhfuckas when they small.
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I can only be on dxp for so long because I feel drain from putting myself into their shoes to help answer a concern .




What bullshit !!!!

Virgos don't put themselves in other people's shoes ... they may even be incapable of it.

Of all the things said in this thread, this one sentence above proves that Virgos have no self awareness.

People don't get upset because the Virgo corrects them or criticizes them ... they get upset because the Virgo never took that person into consideration before criticizing or correcting. The Virgo bases everything off of what they want, what they feel, what they think is beneficial ..... and NEVER what the other person actually wants/feels/needs.



that is the opposite of putting yourself in the other person's shoe. And here you are priding yourself, and believing you should be honored for your woe of what you endure in being empathetic ... when you're not that at all ..... you're selfish, NOT selfless.



But, Virgos have no clue to this ... they think they are the epitome of giving of themselves for another, when really they are only giving for themselves, so that they can feel good about giving.



Everything else said in here didn't hit a nerve, so carry on ......

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Lol you've been on me from day one but I also seen have you behave on other people thread lol . I don't relate to anything you said so I don't mind.

I do however dislike you , has nothing to do with your sign . Just you . Whoever the hell you are I hope you are loved in real life.
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Can a Virg be not-virgoish?

I don't think so, the more I try to gonagainst me the more negative space I'll create within myself .

I think the best thing is to be aware of traits like judgemental , criticism , perfectionist tendencies , work obsess etc. and be aware of how this affects the people we care in our lives .
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I can only be on dxp for so long because I feel drain from putting myself into their shoes to help answer a concern .




What bullshit !!!!

Virgos don't put themselves in other people's shoes ... they may even be incapable of it.

Of all the things said in this thread, this one sentence above proves that Virgos have no self awareness.

People don't get upset because the Virgo corrects them or criticizes them ... they get upset because the Virgo never took that person into consideration before criticizing or correcting. The Virgo bases everything off of what they want, what they feel, what they think is beneficial ..... and NEVER what the other person actually wants/feels/needs.



that is the opposite of putting yourself in the other person's shoe. And here you are priding yourself, and believing you should be honored for your woe of what you endure in being empathetic ... when you're not that at all ..... you're selfish, NOT selfless.



But, Virgos have no clue to this ... they think they are the epitome of giving of themselves for another, when really they are only giving for themselves, so that they can feel good about giving.



Everything else said in here didn't hit a nerve, so carry on ......




Lol you've been on me from day one but I also seen have you behave on other people thread lol . I don't relate to anything you said so I don't mind.

I do however dislike you , has nothing to do with your sign . Just you . Whoever the hell you are I hope you are loved in real life.

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What does you not liking me have to do with anything?

Not real bright, are you?

You asked .... I answered .... then you couldn't handle the answer because you didn't like it, so you decided to make it personal .... how typical of the insecure Virgo.

the reality is ... you can't handle the truth of what other people think ... so what kind of moron opens up a discussion to talk about their truths when they can't handle it.



so, there we have it .. there's another reason why people don't do well with Virgos - because they can't handle the truth.
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Posted by coldwateryvirgo

I can only be on dxp for so long because I feel drain from putting myself into their shoes to help answer a concern .




What bullshit !!!!

Virgos don't put themselves in other people's shoes ... they may even be incapable of it.

Of all the things said in this thread, this one sentence above proves that Virgos have no self awareness.

People don't get upset because the Virgo corrects them or criticizes them ... they get upset because the Virgo never took that person into consideration before criticizing or correcting. The Virgo bases everything off of what they want, what they feel, what they think is beneficial ..... and NEVER what the other person actually wants/feels/needs.



that is the opposite of putting yourself in the other person's shoe. And here you are priding yourself, and believing you should be honored for your woe of what you endure in being empathetic ... when you're not that at all ..... you're selfish, NOT selfless.



But, Virgos have no clue to this ... they think they are the epitome of giving of themselves for another, when really they are only giving for themselves, so that they can feel good about giving.



Everything else said in here didn't hit a nerve, so carry on ......




Lol you've been on me from day one but I also seen have you behave on other people thread lol . I don't relate to anything you said so I don't mind.

I do however dislike you , has nothing to do with your sign . Just you . Whoever the hell you are I hope you are loved in real life.




What does you not liking me have to do with anything?

Not real bright, are you?

You asked .... I answered .... then you couldn't handle the answer because you didn't like it, so you decided to make it personal .... how typical of the insecure Virgo.

the reality is ... you can't handle the truth of what other people think ... so what kind of moron opens up a discussion to talk about their truths when they can't handle it.



so, there we have it .. there's another reason why people don't do well with Virgos - because they can't handle the truth.

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I simply don't like you . Im gather perspective and answer. Have no problem with the truth. Except your statement unfortunately is nothing more than an opinion , not a truth, so stop thinking so highly of yourself . Im fine with perspective and opinion. I just threw one back at you, I don't like you .
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for me, when it comes to my experiences with virgos (both male and female) it's been the same song, different day.

several have taken my friendship and loyalty for granted. their words and actions don't add up.

what they freely criticize in me is something they usually have a weakness in. virgos on here may call that "telling it like it is", but I consider it "hypocrisy."

yes, the detachment sucks. if you're going to detach, at the very least, show me some respect and tell me why before doing so. RE: a dear friendship or relationship, that is what I would do. It's common respect.

None of us is perfect. but i can honestly say, to those who have hurt me, some have apologized or at least, made amends. I have never had a virgo, male nor female, tell me they were sorry. not even close. It's as if they either don't have the fortitude or the integrity. I don't know. But this has been consistent.

Most people no matter the sign learn with maturity how to deal with conflict resolution and/or ill feelings.

I don't think many virgos know how to deal with either. It seems they would rather run and hide from someone who loved and cared about them than face the music and handle it with maturity/compassion/empathy.

I realize virgos have unique tendencies as we all do. with that said, the bottom line comes from their lack of being able to communicate. To me, communication takes two people. It's give and take. Even if you don't like the take. With virgo's, it's give and run. When you do this enough times, is there any doubt why people think they are being burned and lose trust? That's all it basically is; trust.

When you burn me without any explanation or resolution, you destroy my trust in you. that's it. enjoy life as a hermit.
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Posted by coldwateryvirgo
So like with water signs like cancer and Pisces , they might dislike them but they try to understand them

But when Virgo, usually when someone dislike people of this sign , They really hate Virgo .

Do you think it criticism and judgemental ?

No one want to look into our criticism and try to understand them like they try to do with emotion for the water sign.

When really ... instead of thinking we criticize people because we think we're better than them, trying to understand us would show we actually criticize to help the ones we love and we criticize ourselves the most ?

What do you think might be some other things that put off people about virgos ? Detachment ? Too logical ?
You answered your own question by your statements above. ๐Ÿ™‚ I'm not saying this about all or most Virgos. But some it's simply this, lack of emotional intelligence and ironically it's why I see so many Virgos with water signs. To teach you all about actually getting in touch with and dealing with emotions the good and bad through experiencing them...that's the only way you learn. This is no weakness, but Virgos are extremely sensitive, hence why they need to learn how to deal with their emotions in a healthy way so they can maintain balance. Secondly, it's not really the criticism, it's the underlying principle of automatically thinking the worst of people and most likely because it's the self criticism. It breeds the deepest of insecurity and in order to offset that and build up "self esteem"they criticize others and justify it by saying they're "helping"...no...a put down is a put down. Which leads to this, patterns...and often negative ones. While they are a negative(polarity) sign that in itself is not at all a bad thing. You know, yin/yang. But realize the difference between negative polarity and living a negative pattern. It stems from Virgos being afraid of the unknown. Even though they know something needs to change, the negative pattern is their comfort zone and they then surround themselves with they same types to reinforce that zone...obviously to continue to justify not changing. But what they and most people who do this don't realize is that they're getting worse. As time goes by, the hole gets deeper. Just like smoking, while you can quit cold turkey, it's most likely going to take just as long to get out as when one got in...the sooner one turns the ship around the better.

While they'll admit they have faults, that's a good thing, but what are they doing to fix them? I've seen a few Virgos live this way and it's sad because usually the answers are right in front of them. They are arguably the best healers but first one must heal themselves before they try to heal someone else...but realize you can't heal someone that doesn't want to change. I think they're some of the best people in the world...I seriously do and I have a few as close friends. But it's like sometimes...I don't get it.

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Posted by coldwateryvirgo
So like with water signs like cancer and Pisces , they might dislike them but they try to understand them

But when Virgo, usually when someone dislike people of this sign , They really hate Virgo .

Do you think it criticism and judgemental ?

No one want to look into our criticism and try to understand them like they try to do with emotion for the water sign.

When really ... instead of thinking we criticize people because we think we're better than them, trying to understand us would show we actually criticize to help the ones we love and we criticize ourselves the most ?

What do you think might be some other things that put off people about virgos ? Detachment ? Too logical ?
You answered your own question by your statements above. ๐Ÿ™‚ I'm not saying this about all or most Virgos. But some it's simply this, lack of emotional intelligence and ironically it's why I see so many Virgos with water signs. To teach you all about actually getting in touch with and dealing with emotions the good and bad through experiencing them...that's the only way you learn. This is no weakness, but Virgos are extremely sensitive, hence why they need to learn how to deal with their emotions in a healthy way so they can maintain balance. Secondly, it's not really the criticism, it's the underlying principle of automatically thinking the worst of people and most likely because it's the self criticism. It breeds the deepest of insecurity and in order to offset that and build up "self esteem"they criticize others and justify it by saying they're "helping"...no...a put down is a put down. Which leads to this, patterns...and often negative ones. While they are a negative(polarity) sign that in itself is not at all a bad thing. You know, yin/yang. But realize the difference between negative polarity and living a negative pattern. It stems from Virgos being afraid of the unknown. Even though they know something needs to change, the negative pattern is their comfort zone and they then surround themselves with they same types to reinforce that zone...obviously to continue to justify not changing. But what they and most people who do this don't realize is that they're getting worse. As time goes by, the hole gets deeper. Just like smoking, while you can quit cold turkey, it's most likely going to take just as long to get out as when one got in...the sooner one turns the ship around the better.

While they'll admit they have faults, that's a good thing, but what are they doing to fix them? I've seen a few Virgos live this way and it's sad because usually the answers are right in front of them. They are arguably the best healers but first one must heal themselves before they try to heal someone else...but realize you can't heal someone that doesn't want to change. I think they're some of the best people in the world...I seriously do and I have a few as close friends. But it's like sometimes...I don't get it.

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@beautifulsoul74

i really like your in depth answer . I'm the epitome of an emotional virgo. Too much water signs. I feel way too much and it goes against my nature. Within a span of one day I can get emotional about something and cut things off so many times because I'm feeling too much.

Get this

Im constantly being told by scorpios and cancers that I am being too emotional lmao
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I simply don't like you . Im gather perspective and answer. Have no problem with the truth. Except your statement unfortunately is nothing more than an opinion , not a truth, so stop thinking so highly of yourself . Im fine with perspective and opinion. I just threw one back at you, I don't like you .




Who the fuck cares about what you think or like? If I cared about you, at all, then I would act like it.

You are exactly as I stated you are, by virtue of being a Virgo, and I couldn't care a less if you like it, or me.

Of course it's my opinion ... are you really that stupid?
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I think its because virgos are unaware of how they come across and don't care. we don't realize we piss people off so that piss them off even more ?โ€โ™€๏ธ


Oh, you know what you're doing. Trust me. Virgo's are not stupid, but boy are they cunning. They play the innocent card well.

RE: not caring how you come across to people; this would be acceptable from a child. From an adult, not so much. It's another lame excuse to justify unfair criticizing of people and cutting them off. What you guys are really doing is projecting your insecurities. And this is why many Virgo's lose friends and people who actually care about them.

Of all the Virgo's I know and have interacted with, only ONE has had a long lasting and happy marriage. He is outgoing and very caring. The others, meh.

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Posted by coldwateryvirgo
So like with water signs like cancer and Pisces , they might dislike them but they try to understand them

But when Virgo, usually when someone dislike people of this sign , They really hate Virgo .

Do you think it criticism and judgemental ?

No one want to look into our criticism and try to understand them like they try to do with emotion for the water sign.

When really ... instead of thinking we criticize people because we think we're better than them, trying to understand us would show we actually criticize to help the ones we love and we criticize ourselves the most ?

What do you think might be some other things that put off people about virgos ? Detachment ? Too logical ?
Well, when it comes to emotions... the ones in question are usually vulnerable and defensive. It might be enough to be there for them (even a hug - some compassion), or to leave them be for awhile - till the watter get clear again.

What you described above - on the other hand... "criticism". That's usually perceived as both judgmental and offensive. As an attack to the self. Sometimes even an attempt "to change oneself" into something you might regard as fitting. Even if you're right - the way you're going by it doesn't make it right. If you're criticizing an adult - he/she might be aware of that as well (that their actions are not the most optimal) - but acting in a way that you find pleasing - could be a struggle for them. And if you keep pressuring with the critics - while hopping for them to change... well, if at first that was deemed as obnoxious - with time passing it might feel like an attack. Basically you're pushing their bottoms - which brings out the worst in them ("instinctively" - they're starting to regard you as the enemy). Not to mention... the hypocrisy (you might really hate - to be treated with the same coin).

And also, if we're to talk about a strong Virgo influence - that can imply OCD tendencies. Doesn't apply to all Virgos, but to those that do - their criticism can be aimed at perfection (most optimal condition in every situation). Tho, perfection is an unachievable goal (happiness and perfection - can not coexist together), one that's quite hard even on the one who has those drive - let alone on someone who's quite different.
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I think its because virgos are unaware of how they come across and don't care. we don't realize we piss people off so that piss them off even more ?โ€โ™€๏ธ


Oh, you know what you're doing. Trust me. Virgo's are not stupid, but boy are they cunning. They play the innocent card well.

RE: not caring how you come across to people; this would be acceptable from a child. From an adult, not so much. It's another lame excuse to justify unfair criticizing of people and cutting them off. What you guys are really doing is projecting your insecurities. And this is why many Virgo's lose friends and people who actually care about them.

Of all the Virgo's I know and have interacted with, only ONE has had a long lasting and happy marriage. He is outgoing and very caring. The others, meh.


are you describing geminis

im no adult im children
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No, if you are capable of reading comprehension, I used the word Virgos numerous times; not one mention of Gemini's. This thread isn't about my sign, it's about yours. If you want to go after Gemini's, there is a board for that.

I'm sure you're not a child. I never said you nor any virgo were. What I was implying was that the actions a lot of virgo's take is immature and very child like. When you don't have the ability to interact openly and honestly with people who care about you and even love you, it really is very immature. Moreover, it's a sign of complete insecurity.

I know virgos are perfectionists. I get that. And i have no problem with a virgo trying to help me improve my game. With that said, virgo's can never accept the same level of criticism or any well founded criticism from anyone. It's insulting to them. Just look how you reacted to my comments. Instead of responding with substantive thoughts, you resorted to childish comments.

I don't hate virgos, I really don't hate anyone because of their sign. I'm just posting my experience with numerous virgos I've had in my life over the years. They are without a doubt, the most critical and judgmental of anyone I've met. I had one so called life long friend criticize me because my two boys played tackle football as he "assumed" I was unfair to them by placing them in a very structured, competitive program. A program they both wanted to be part of and worked hard to earn a spot on the team. This despite the fact that he (my friend) coached his kids for many years and drove them into the ground so hard with condescending comments, they'd end up crying and nearly begging to quit.

Nothing sucks more than a person with a double standard. Virgos are the Epitome of that.
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