Read between the lines (Page 5)

Libra,

We've only known each other 10 weeks, that can't the reason why he does it. We haven't spent that much time together.

Are you saying that you Libras don't tell the other person that you miss them, like them, love them, etc?

HP

We are not affectionate people, not touchy feely. Why can't he be in love with you, by the way?

We don't tell the other person that we miss them, that we love them. Emotionally detached, remember? It does not occur to us and we are reactive, so if you go first he's likely to join in. But even if he does not join in, it does not mean he does not have feelings...

Also, he does not need to be with you to be in love with you. That is the whole Libra-falls-in-love angle that I keep hammering on about.

The feeding comes from his head, not from your presence

Libra, that makes some sense to me about the feeding comes from his head not my presence because he sends me a text message almost every day and calls me almost every workday morning to help me get out of bed. So it makes me realize that he's thinking about me in his own way.

He thinks the most wonderful things and you'll never know. That's where the texts come from, you get a small insight through them. Don't worry so much, you're in a good spot.

The other thing I realise sometimes is that if i am happy with someone in the way we communicate I don't want that to change and I can do it forever, e.g. finding satisfaction in texting. So we may not realise that the other one needs more or wants to step things up a notch. I don't think we're all that good with change...

('Presence' is scary, by the way - then we have to talk about things and I may lose my happy status quo...)

HP, that is amazing and I swear that is the Libra man's gift. To make you feel like the most important person in their lives when they are with you.

Libra, I would have to agree with HP on the touching. Can't mean love...
My libra friend has stroked my face, hair and ran his fingers up and down my back several times, even in public... Love I don't think so, maybe the temporary idea of being in love. Affectionate, hands down. All of the Libra men I have been with are extremely affectionate. Including my buddy..


BY THE WAY GUYS HE DIDN'T CALL LAST NIGHT. NEITHER DID I AND I WON'T. IF OR WHEN HE GETS THE COURAGE TO TALK HE WILL. IF NOT SO BE IT. GOT ANOTHER DATE TONIGHT AND SOME GUY INVITED ME TO A PARTY TOMMORROW. SO I AM ENJOYING MYSELF!!!

Haven't had sex in almost 3 weeks though, might have to pull out my toys...
One thing about me is that I like to stick with one sexual partner at a time. I need to know if my Libra friend and I have an understanding about the sex cut off (which is a decision I have already made for myself)before I start with another (really I don't have any other prospects right now) just getting to know another guy or two....

Maybe Libra men are more affectionate than Libra women. In fact, I think I read that somewhere.

Queen, I got the impression he wouldn't call last night. He did mention about hanging lights and something else, so his mind was concentrating on helping out his friend. The door's been opened on the two of you talking, so it will happen soon.

Go ahead and pull out your toys. It's not the sex that keeps us together with these men. I haven't gone down that road yet with this Libra, so I can't relate to the cut off. I would imagine he understands about the cut off, especially since you haven't had sex with him for 3 weeks.

But girl, don't feel like you have to have sex with another guy just because you aren't getting it any longer from the current interest. Get to know the guy first because you get intimate with him. Plus, you have your toys, remember? 😉

Exactly HP, I am not a just jump in the sack kinda girl. I am a pretty picky and have to get to know the person some. Not that I have never had a one-night-stand, lord knows most of us probably have. I had two in my life, which were irrelevant.

So, I thik he will eventually bring up the talk, but I don't know how soon. I really don't care how soon. It is important for him to handle what is going on with him right now. I will have to try not to do my normal scorp thing. Remember I mentioned, when I end something with someone I never go back. If in the future he decided he wanted to have a relationship with me. I might no longer be interested but I will always be willing to be his friend.


Houston, I have been talking to a Taurus off and on since May (before I met the Libra) We haven't actually met in person he lives in another city and everytime we plan to meet something happens. How weird is it that we have this closeness long distance. As I know scops/taurus are a good combo, scorps would normally have to be around a person literally to get close to them. Anyway check out the Taurus post. I saw your comment about the Leo and Taurus, funny.

HP, oh and about the 3 weeks, just counting back it was 2 weeks, still too long especially for this Libra. Although our last long phone conversationhe said he was going to withold sex period and get himself together. I said OK if that is what you need to do. This is the second time. Last time it didn't last longer than 3 days...

Since, it has been all weird between us, he probably wouldn't think of approaching me about that, as he knows that the friendship is what I don't want to jeaopordize and if it means cutting the sex than so be it. I just don't like weird feelings...

this is so confusing. I dont dare read remaining 6 pages of info from scorp, taurus, leo and virgo trying to remember all stories. 😢

— I don't think Scorp, Leo or Virgo have been mentioned but on this page.

thelibran. If you were on the post and keeping up you would know what was going on... Don't be a party pooper... Now the laziness is coming out!!! Yeah, the scorp speaking!!!

Amen Rikely... I am a bit tired of trying to figure it out honestly. I could really feel myself drifting away from it all. Don't want to but I feel I am. Like the Libra, if you don't show interest in being my friend or otherwise after I have laid out my feelings. I move on and normally, I don't look back. Ask the Ex.

wait, i have something to say about that, queen. stay tuned.

OK HP I am waiting... What?

"I mean, I get it, but if you are detached about sex anyway, and the other person is not placing high expectations on you (to be in a relationship), why not enjoy a good thing?"

"A mutually benificial situation...is it really because in the end, they are the ones to form the attachment, and need to cut it off because they are developing the feelings they aren't sure what to do with?"

Sure, in the beginning, each of you benefit from the friends with benefits aspect, but you can and do form an emotional detachment that can be heartbreaking for some women to break. Men who respect us, regardless of their sign, will respect us by breaking off the sexual aspect or refrain all together if we shows signs that we are developing feelings for them if they don't feel the same. Some men could care less, but the guys that do care don't want us to get in too deep and get so hurt that we resent them and feel like we invested and wasted so much time in them.

I say stop placing such a high value on sex. If a guy has sex with you these days, it has nothing to do with feelings, especially if it happens so early in the relationship. By early in the relationship, I mean within the first 3 months. If you have sex with a guy early on, he's going to know he can get it from you. It's his bargaining tool and he will use it to his advantage. Most women can't use sex as a bargaining tool in a relationship - we only use in marriage once we know he's ours.

Instead of dwelling on the sexual aspect of these relationships, focus on HIM and who he is. The Libra in my life is very affectionate and we tease each other with innuendo, but we haven't had sex yet. I'm sure however he would do it because of hormones...but ladies, it's mostly us who have the willpower to say no, so use that willpower to keep them in check and make him realize the real YOU before getting intimate.

Just because you've laid out your feelings doesn't automatically mean you will get a man to feel the same about you. If anything, it triggers him to analyze the situation between the two of you and if he can actually see the two of you as a couple. That's why I've said a few times on this thread alone to just go with the flow. Let him chase you. So far it's worked for me.

sorry queen, i'm at work and couldn't write it until now.

HP, trust me, I only had sex with him because I wanted to and knew our situation couldn't be more.

My feelings on the line was to clarify things not to make him be mine (Case in point, his friendship is most important, or I wouldn't have mentioned cutting off the sex if sex was most important.) My friend and I didn't have sex for a couple months, but he made plenty of passes and I laughed him off (Clearly I wanted to, but because he is a Libra and that is used to getting what he wants. I know I needed to do that. It worked like a charm with my ex, again another situation. I saw my ex, he like my friend now did a lot of chasing, calls all times of day and night (not just booty calls) then backed off after awhile, but wanted my ex to be mine and he was. I just want my buddy back. We started on a different note. Sex again, was an added benefit.

I definitely know my worth and sex is more of a sport not a main objective in my life. However, I am picky about who I have sex with. When I chose the person they are glad I did. So I hear...

I guess I didn't make my point...

HP, not to shoot you down or anything, but I do agree with the reasoning behind why they cut off, either they don't want anything further or they do and are not in a situation where that would be the best thing for either person.

*** But once we begin trying to analyzing a specific guy's thought process or once we begin to wonder "why, when, what" of that guy, then that's the moment we begin to invest in them.

Very trooo! You detach by just shrugging your shoulders and letting it be what it is. Stop putting the focus on them and start putting it back on you.

*** When two people are not on the same page, maybe it's time to stop reading the book.

Wow! This is a great quote! I wish someone had said this to me YEARS ago when I needed to hear it.

*** Just because you've laid out your feelings doesn't automatically mean you will get a man to feel the same about you. If anything, it triggers him to analyze the situation between the two of you

yep. PLUS Libras hate feelings and emotions.

Have you ever been in a room with a bunch of Libras and someone's dad just died? I have because I work in Libra central. As much as we all loved our fellow Libra, she was obviously upset, and well ... we all were looking for escape, standing about with little smiles on our faces, trying to figure a way out of the situation without being obvious. Since she was and is one of my best friends, I ended up taking her home and telling her jokes until her husband got home. I made sure she had a train ticket, helped her pack, but never talked about what happened. It is just the way Libras are. We want to be supportive but we do NOT like emotional drama.

We just don't like it. We don't want deep long tawks about how everyone is feeling. We HATE that.

If you have a complaint, keep it simple and strait forward. One sentence not a diatribe on your feelings. Just say I prefer you do this. Instead of when you go to a party without me I feel like you are ignoring me and you don't like me. Why would you do that if you liked me? Stop all that crap and just say "I would prefer if you invited me to parties from now on." This is a bad example but you get what I am saying. Keeping it simple is best. We respect that.

I do touch people. I am very huggy, touchy, affectionate person. The more I touch you the more I like you. If a man I am dating and have feelings for sits down beside me, I automatically start touching his leg, hands, back, whatever.

I still don't understand why you don't think this guy likes you Houston. It couldn't be more clear to me.

*** why they cut off, either they don't want anything further or they do and are not in a situation where that would be the best thing for either person.

yup.

Plus, to be honest, I don't get the different between friends with benefits and casual dating. What is the difference?

If the guy is saying he doesn't/can't/won't date now, friends with benefits is pretty much the same thing sooo I can see why he would can it.

Libras are very emotional themselves and want you to listen to all their drama, but I guess they can't be the same for others? I was his "rock", as he says, since he has known me. I don't do things so people can do them in return in fact scorps mostly hold things insid until we burst. He is just the first person in a long time who I felt comfortable talking about my issues and I keep that to a minimum, because in any conversation Libras always find a way to make it about them.

Still have much luv for them though.

HP74, LS, QS..

Don't you all get tired of talking about these guys? I have been a spectator in your conversations now and I am exhausted. I get exhausted from thinking about my Libra, talking about him, writing about him, listening to music that makes me think about him and watching movies like "The Notebook" that makes me cry because I want him so bad.

I have pulled back and have not called, just until I get myself and my feeling under control, then I will call or will talk to him when he calls and we will be able to continue our friendship. I have to get him out of my system first. QS, you may have to do the same. Back off, stop thinking and writing about him, stop wishing and be proactive. This whole thing has made me feel so one dimensional. There is more to life than a man, but he consumed my brain for the past two-months. I am an introverted Aqua and we are good at having relationships in our mind and not really living in reality. Once I get over the feelings I have for him, I will be okay and everyday I don't talk or thing about him I feel myself losing feelings.

I am focusing on other things. It is good to get out with your girls, but pointless, if you go home, or actually on your way home in the car are still thinking about him, wondering if he called etc. You really have to get over the love you feel for him and you probably won't be able to do that while having sex or any contact with him at all. After that happens, then maybe you can build on your friendship again. Until then you are almost fooling yourself to believe you can just go back to being friends with/or without bene's and you will not have any problems. It may go on smooth for a while, but this whole thing will resurface again and the next time it will be harder for you to be in control. I don't know you so I may be wrong, but you really seem defensive and very into him. I don't think it will be easy for you to let him go. It does not seem like you want to. If you don't, then you will have to let things go as they will and not fight it. If you have sex then okay and if not then okay. Life is hard enought without us fighting every battle all the time. Sometimes we just have to give in.

Aqua, as I have stated I am exhausted and hasn't contacted or will I contact him. Just might lose another buddy. Hoever, I have responded to another prospect the Taurus who seems really nice and a little more predictable. I am on the Taurus post now... I will keep you guys posted. Might not be on here either for a minute as it is very exhausting and starting to bore me now.

Aqua,

I am a Libra. I can do this all day everyday. There are few things I like more than talking about people and their relationships.

BTW who ever was asking ... I was dating a Leo a few months ago. I think that is the Leo thelibran was referring too as I think I mentioned him in passing.

Maybe you just needed to talk it out of your system QueenS.

I hope it works out with your taurus! Let me know where you are posting. I want to keep up with you. I usually post in the Leo Lair. They are good folks.

QS..

I hope things work out with whoever makes you happy! I am like you and get bored easily talking about the same thing over and over.

Like LS said keep us posted. Good Luck 🙂

Aqua, I think my situation is a bit different. I'm ok for the time being with the Libra in my life. THe reason why I keep coming back to this thread is to try to offer up advice to Queen and Chatz and others since I'm having fairly good experience with the Libra.

LS, I don't think I'm really questioning whether he likes me or not...I'm 99% sure of it. I'm just sharing my day to day dealings with him, but also offering advice to the other ladies.

Of course, next week could change I could be here complaining about him. lol

LS, let the truth be told this has definitely been therapudic. I dunno if I would be so at ease or have such an understanding without all you guys input. Thanks, I did need to talk abou this. Weird, as a scorp I normally keep things to myself. My closest girlfriends (the few I have, again I have more male friends then girl friends - no I don't sleep with them, well not all of them - at the same time anyway - LOL!!!) don't even know all of this stuff...

Thanks gals and guys, however, I will keep you posted. I am now also thinking about making myself available to date, like slowly, very slowly consider being in another relationship. Hell it is getting lonely out here!!!

take your time getting into a relationship, QS. Don't rebound just because this guy isn't moving at the same pace as you. Don't burn bridges and don't think that replaces your feelings for this guy by dating another will help you - it will only mask your feelings until you address them.

replaces = replacing

My Scorp best friend is the same Queen. She will let me go on about stupid things ... i.e. I need new shoe laces for an hour not mentioning her sister is in the hospital having complications with her pregnancy. Oddly, she is always surprised when I am supportive and listen to her. Of course I listen to her ... she is my friend. I love her.

Sometimes I think it is easier for you Scorps to give than receive.

I am not worried about you finding anyone Queen. You Scorp ladies have it going on.

🙂

HP, there are no dating feelings.... We were never on that. I do respect him and will and would like to be friends which is our deepest connection. That is the big part of not getting in a relationship with him or anyone for the past 2 years wanted to make sure I was'nt making anyone the rebound guy and with this guy I couldn't because I think I would be the rebound girl as his break up is a lot more recent.

You aren't getting this huh?

LS, I think you are right we are such recievers, because we cherish our friends so much and always want the best for them. We are just to proud or even feel strong enough to handle our own... But even the week gets strong.

And, no I have never as of yet had a problem with finding someone. But that has to be what I really want to do and I have never been turned down. Actually, I never had the chance to persue. Maybe I should try that. It would be a good experience to be on the other end for once. Naw, I would suck at it, would lose interest after a very short time.

*** OK guys I am dilirious, BUT EVEN THE STRONG GETS WEAK!!!

I get it, just don't buy it. 🙂

I can understand that HP, you would have to know how deep a friend is to a scorp more like blood relatives. We take them to heart and would really go out our way for them. Wish you could ask my girlfriends. If someone asks them what is my best quality as a friend, these are some of the things they have said.

Loyal
Reliable
Dependable

Always the top three... What say you LS you have a scorp best friend? Of course they would always say "CRAZY"!!!

If you're talking about loyal, reliable, and dependable look up Taurus female 🙂

I'm sure you take your friends to heart, but I'm sure I'm not the only one here thinking you feel more for this guy than you're claiming.

It's OK if you do, just don't deny it if you are. We're only trying to help you not get hurt over this.

She is a total sweetheart.

She is one of the kindest, gentlest, most compassionate people I know. All of my scorp friends, and I have MANY, are just so understanding and giving. They just have such patience. Of course, I have never pissed any of them off .... so the otherside remains a mystery.

We have had arguements because I was getting close to her and she needed to know that I really did care and would be there. Now she knows. She also knows if I disappear for a week, it doesn't mean she is far from my heart or mind.

Yes LS, we like to know people are there. That is why we can't relate to the not so open communication and wish washy. The more straight forward the better for us. However everyone isn't like us. We learn to love others for who they are as well.

If you're talking about loyal, reliable, and dependable look up Taurus female

No offence Houston but my ex-best friend was a taurus. she ended up being very controlling, competitive, backstabbing. Of course, she was one of those girls who didn't get along with other girls so I should have known. I was niave at the time. Apparently, even though I have not seen her in three years, she is STILL spreading rumours and gossip about me. I STILL have no idea what I ever did that set her off. When I needed her, broke up with my fiance, she wrote me a nasty letter that day AFTER finding out and ended our friendship. I have no idea why. Apparently, she spread a lot of rumours around my ex's circle too.

okie doke...grouping all Taurus into one...alrighty.

I guess I'm through with this thread. Have a good weekend everyone.

HP, sorry and again, no offense. LS, I was going to say the similar. I had a close Taurus girl friend and she became a caniving little B_ _ _ _H! She was very back stabbing, insecure and slick. Again, she didn't have many female friends. She was very coniving with men and would do anything to get them if she wanted to the lowest thing. Sorry HP, they all are probably not alike!!

She slept with a friends husband and he left his wife and son for her.

I give her props on persistance. But hate the coniving inconsiderateness.

HP

I am not saying all taurus's are the same. I was actually pointing out an exception to the rule. She actually managed to break me and my fiance up as well as destroy a friendship between me and my college roommate who had been one of my best friends of many years.

My cousin still sees her on occassion and said she is constantly getting pissed with people and pulling shit. I reminded him that is why she isn't my friend anymore.

She is the only taurus female I have ever met. I doubt she sums them all up. Doreen Virtue is a taurus and she is wonderful, from what I know of her.

*** Again, she didn't have many female friends.

My mom told me very early in life that if a woman didn't have many female friends she would be problematic because other women read other women better. She has been right. Every girl I have met who claimed other women were catty, etc and that is why she doesn't hang out with other women has proved to be terrible to me or other women.

I am very lucky I have so many female friends who are loving and supportive. I think women who can be friends to other women are the secret to a happy life.

Have good weekends guys!

HP ... I hope you come back to us. My ex bestfriend is not a reflection on you.

Night!

🙂 😉 🙂

I don't have a lot of female friends, used to have more male friends. However, the female friends I do have I cherish, again, scorps are selective of people who they bring close to their hearts.