
Dazed
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Posted by Kittens
Men should appreciated Prostitutes more. They are free of drama and would never divorce u

Posted by UnusualVaginalDischarge
It’s not the same. Being wined and dined means you’re spending time together outside of the bedroom to get to know eachother.
And each person is different so if the individuals in question have longterm in mind that’s one thing. If sex is the only thing in mind, there’s no point in the wining and dining.

Posted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxX
Disagree.
In the wine and dine scenario you're not choosing what you do with that $ 200.
Maybe you'd prefer using it towards bills, a spa day, or something else.
Being given $ 200 gives you the freedom to do whatever you want with that money.
As someone who's not a stranger to fine dining, it's nice, but it's overrated. Most of the time not worth the price.

Posted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by _DazedPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxX
Disagree.
In the wine and dine scenario you're not choosing what you do with that $ 200.
Maybe you'd prefer using it towards bills, a spa day, or something else.
Being given $ 200 gives you the freedom to do whatever you want with that money.
As someone who's not a stranger to fine dining, it's nice, but it's overrated. Most of the time not worth the price.
I specifically stated when appearance is the only prerequisite for sex.
There is no short of women that are using tinder for sex and free dinner.. as long as he looks good.
But having $ 200 spent on wining and dunking you is still not the same as being given $ 200.
Your statement was that they are the same and I disagree.
I don't see what physical appearance has to do with answering that question/statement.click to expand

Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturns
It won’t be the same if the woman had feelings for the man and was seeking a long term commitment.

Posted by LethalFantasia
I don't think so because like Alicia and UVD mentioned, you'd actually have to socialize and spend time with the person as he lavishfiez your dinner. lolz!
And for many people they don't have an emotional connection to sex unless they're in love with someone or sometimes not at all. So they can go and have sex like it's a 15 minute hobby or whatever, get payed and be like baiiii! x

Posted by UnusualVaginalDischargePosted by _DazedPosted by UnusualVaginalDischarge
It’s not the same. Being wined and dined means you’re spending time together outside of the bedroom to get to know eachother.
And each person is different so if the individuals in question have longterm in mind that’s one thing. If sex is the only thing in mind, there’s no point in the wining and dining.
I specifically said.. appearance is the only prerequisite for sex.
And it happens every day. Men pay for dinner, wine, etc just to get laid. Men buy drinks at the bar just to get laid. And women go home with them because the men are attractive.
Very much the same.
May as well just offer her $ 200 to sleep with them.
And if you think that men pay prostitutes for more than just sex, you might want to learn a bit more about the industry.
I never said men pay prostitutes for more than sex but each case is different.
Most men pay for sex
Many of them pay for sex to ease the loneliness or to feel attractive or to feel in power
Humans are quite complex, maybe you should learn a bit more about psychology
And I know you’ve been jabbing at me this whole time and I wasn’t going to respond but just to be clear
If I am not attracted to someone, i wont even go on a date with him. Money doesn’t attract me. The last guy i had sex with, didnt spend a dime on me. Ive been on dates that lead to nothing. Wining and dining just doesn’t work on me personally. So dont make it sound like it does when you don’t know me personally like at all.
And when I say someone is not ugly, what I mean is—i dont find said person attractive but in general he’s not ugly.
Praise the lord 🙏🏼click to expand

Posted by Sagicorn
I didn't know women are supposed to sleep with a man that spends $ 200 on wining and dining. Maybe people here are too generous but that does not imply she's obligated or supposed to sleep with a guy after. If you're spending that much on something like that it should be your choice, not because sex is implied after.



Posted by SagittariusInLovePosted by hellosaggy
Look. you are going to sleep with me anyway... lets just cut to the chase. Why have me take you out to dinner if you need your light bill paid.
I got you boo.
btw, I wine and dine at home. I keep filets and lobster tails on deck. Duck and lamb stays in my freezer, and I have herbs and spices galore. Its one of the benefits of not having kids. I have good connects with butchers and fishmongers.
So that 200 dinner could really only cost me 60 - 70 dollars to make at home.... but I need to be compensated for my efforts!
nothing worse than making a great meal and her going to sleep because she's full. I would have made your ass a salad.
I’ll have the lobster we can talk but you ain’t getting any.click to expand

Posted by nanobot
I'm actually inclined to disagree with most here. I feel that most people don't actually use a date to "get to know one another", but rather treat it as a precursor and the social obligation step to make it into bed. Also, the alcohol makes you lower your inhibitions, so it's like the foreplay before the mating ritual.
At least that what it seems like to me, after having gone on tons of dates that ended with his tongue forcibly make it's way into my mouth. Also there's anger when you don't put out. It's today's fuckboy/fuckgirl culture.

Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturnsPosted by _DazedPosted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturns
It won’t be the same if the woman had feelings for the man and was seeking a long term commitment.
I Specifically said appearance was the only prerequisite for sex.
Jfc you folks don't read
Yep, that’s all you said. You didn’t say any other context. So you’re defining it as just dinner and just sex on a one time basis?click to expand

Posted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by _DazedPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by _DazedPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxX
Disagree.
In the wine and dine scenario you're not choosing what you do with that $ 200.
Maybe you'd prefer using it towards bills, a spa day, or something else.
Being given $ 200 gives you the freedom to do whatever you want with that money.
As someone who's not a stranger to fine dining, it's nice, but it's overrated. Most of the time not worth the price.
I specifically stated when appearance is the only prerequisite for sex.
There is no short of women that are using tinder for sex and free dinner.. as long as he looks good.
But having $ 200 spent on wining and dunking you is still not the same as being given $ 200.
Your statement was that they are the same and I disagree.
I don't see what physical appearance has to do with answering that question/statement.
I do agree with the first part. They are different. I'd rather have the $ 200.
I suppose that changes my question a bit.
If you're okay with getting wined and dined by an attractive man, and give him the goods...
Why are you NOT okay taking $ 200 from an attractive man just to fuck him?
Because the first situation is a date and the second situation you named is prostitution.
Prostitution is a business deal.
A date is where two people come together to see if they have a connection.
Sometimes dates end with the two people having sex, but it's something that happened because they were feeling each other.
Accepting a kind offering on a date (like dinner for example) and then eventually sleeping with that person isn't the same as making a deal that if they pay for your meal you will without a doubt have sex with them.click to expand

Posted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by _DazedPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by _DazedPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxX
Disagree.
In the wine and dine scenario you're not choosing what you do with that $ 200.
Maybe you'd prefer using it towards bills, a spa day, or something else.
Being given $ 200 gives you the freedom to do whatever you want with that money.
As someone who's not a stranger to fine dining, it's nice, but it's overrated. Most of the time not worth the price.
I specifically stated when appearance is the only prerequisite for sex.
There is no short of women that are using tinder for sex and free dinner.. as long as he looks good.
But having $ 200 spent on wining and dunking you is still not the same as being given $ 200.
Your statement was that they are the same and I disagree.
I don't see what physical appearance has to do with answering that question/statement.
I do agree with the first part. They are different. I'd rather have the $ 200.
I suppose that changes my question a bit.
If you're okay with getting wined and dined by an attractive man, and give him the goods...
Why are you NOT okay taking $ 200 from an attractive man just to fuck him?
Because the first situation is a date and the second situation you named is prostitution.
Prostitution is a business deal.
A date is where two people come together to see if they have a connection.
Sometimes dates end with the two people having sex, but it's something that happened because they were feeling each other.
Accepting a kind offering on a date (like dinner for example) and then eventually sleeping with that person isn't the same as making a deal that if they pay for your meal you will without a doubt have sex with them.click to expand

Posted by SagicornPosted by _DazedPosted by Sagicorn
I didn't know women are supposed to sleep with a man that spends $ 200 on wining and dining. Maybe people here are too generous but that does not imply she's obligated or supposed to sleep with a guy after. If you're spending that much on something like that it should be your choice, not because sex is implied after.
I didn't say she had to.
I said women do this.
Read please
But do they tho? I often read/hear men complaining they spend on women and get nothing in return (no sex=nothing). Unless they had already set rules or he buys her stuff in exchange for sex (this one I have heard of happening). Hell, even been offered this. And he "couldn't" understand what's wrong with that lolclick to expand

Posted by _DazedPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by _DazedPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by _DazedPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxX
Disagree.
In the wine and dine scenario you're not choosing what you do with that $ 200.
Maybe you'd prefer using it towards bills, a spa day, or something else.
Being given $ 200 gives you the freedom to do whatever you want with that money.
As someone who's not a stranger to fine dining, it's nice, but it's overrated. Most of the time not worth the price.
I specifically stated when appearance is the only prerequisite for sex.
There is no short of women that are using tinder for sex and free dinner.. as long as he looks good.
But having $ 200 spent on wining and dunking you is still not the same as being given $ 200.
Your statement was that they are the same and I disagree.
I don't see what physical appearance has to do with answering that question/statement.
I do agree with the first part. They are different. I'd rather have the $ 200.
I suppose that changes my question a bit.
If you're okay with getting wined and dined by an attractive man, and give him the goods...
Why are you NOT okay taking $ 200 from an attractive man just to fuck him?
Because the first situation is a date and the second situation you named is prostitution.
Prostitution is a business deal.
A date is where two people come together to see if they have a connection.
Sometimes dates end with the two people having sex, but it's something that happened because they were feeling each other.
Accepting a kind offering on a date (like dinner for example) and then eventually sleeping with that person isn't the same as making a deal that if they pay for your meal you will without a doubt have sex with them.
I've been propositioned my women on tinder more times than I can count.. that were seeking "dinner" with sex at the end.
Why not just ask for the money instead?click to expand

Posted by nanobotPosted by _DazedPosted by nanobot
I'm actually inclined to disagree with most here. I feel that most people don't actually use a date to "get to know one another", but rather treat it as a precursor and the social obligation step to make it into bed. Also, the alcohol makes you lower your inhibitions, so it's like the foreplay before the mating ritual.
At least that what it seems like to me, after having gone on tons of dates that ended with his tongue forcibly make it's way into my mouth. Also there's anger when you don't put out. It's today's fuckboy/fuckgirl culture.
You say you disagree but everything that followed was in agreement?
I meant I disagree with UVD and Alicia and whoever else, that most dates aren't men trying to get to know women. Should have specifiedclick to expand

Posted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by _DazedPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by _DazedPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by _DazedPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxX
Disagree.
In the wine and dine scenario you're not choosing what you do with that $ 200.
Maybe you'd prefer using it towards bills, a spa day, or something else.
Being given $ 200 gives you the freedom to do whatever you want with that money.
As someone who's not a stranger to fine dining, it's nice, but it's overrated. Most of the time not worth the price.
I specifically stated when appearance is the only prerequisite for sex.
There is no short of women that are using tinder for sex and free dinner.. as long as he looks good.
But having $ 200 spent on wining and dunking you is still not the same as being given $ 200.
Your statement was that they are the same and I disagree.
I don't see what physical appearance has to do with answering that question/statement.
I do agree with the first part. They are different. I'd rather have the $ 200.
I suppose that changes my question a bit.
If you're okay with getting wined and dined by an attractive man, and give him the goods...
Why are you NOT okay taking $ 200 from an attractive man just to fuck him?
Because the first situation is a date and the second situation you named is prostitution.
Prostitution is a business deal.
A date is where two people come together to see if they have a connection.
Sometimes dates end with the two people having sex, but it's something that happened because they were feeling each other.
Accepting a kind offering on a date (like dinner for example) and then eventually sleeping with that person isn't the same as making a deal that if they pay for your meal you will without a doubt have sex with them.
I've been propositioned my women on tinder more times than I can count.. that were seeking "dinner" with sex at the end.
Why not just ask for the money instead?
Did they ask you to pay for the dinner?click to expand


Posted by SagicornPosted by hellosaggy
yeah @sagicorn you talking about "date and dash".... it's another reason I only go on dinner dates after talking for awhile. no new chicks get expensive dates.
one of my FWB does it regularly and she tells me about it. having guys take you out on 150 dollar dinner dates knowing you just doing it for the food is lame. that could be a good portion of their paychecks.
shame on them for not seeing it.
Yeah, they actually mentioned a name for it, some term that I can't remember, I tried lol it's kinda weird, my first reaction was - since when is this some new trend? Lol but they said it was all done for tricking guys into paying and ditching them after. It was a trend on some dating sites mostly where women would ask guys out for that reason.click to expand

Posted by hellosaggyPosted by _DazedPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by _DazedPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxXPosted by _DazedPosted by xXxBitcheroniiiXxX
Disagree.
In the wine and dine scenario you're not choosing what you do with that $ 200.
Maybe you'd prefer using it towards bills, a spa day, or something else.
Being given $ 200 gives you the freedom to do whatever you want with that money.
As someone who's not a stranger to fine dining, it's nice, but it's overrated. Most of the time not worth the price.
I specifically stated when appearance is the only prerequisite for sex.
There is no short of women that are using tinder for sex and free dinner.. as long as he looks good.
But having $ 200 spent on wining and dunking you is still not the same as being given $ 200.
Your statement was that they are the same and I disagree.
I don't see what physical appearance has to do with answering that question/statement.
I do agree with the first part. They are different. I'd rather have the $ 200.
I suppose that changes my question a bit.
If you're okay with getting wined and dined by an attractive man, and give him the goods...
Why are you NOT okay taking $ 200 from an attractive man just to fuck him?
Because the first situation is a date and the second situation you named is prostitution.
Prostitution is a business deal.
A date is where two people come together to see if they have a connection.
Sometimes dates end with the two people having sex, but it's something that happened because they were feeling each other.
Accepting a kind offering on a date (like dinner for example) and then eventually sleeping with that person isn't the same as making a deal that if they pay for your meal you will without a doubt have sex with them.
I've been propositioned my women on tinder more times than I can count.. that were seeking "dinner" with sex at the end.
Why not just ask for the money instead?
exactly they don't want to feel "whorish"...for wanting sex.... I'm horny, you horny.... you need some dough. it depends on how you come at me. If I see your gas tank low or whatever. I would look out.
women should stop playing games so much on social views. ya'll want to be equal but then switch it up philosophically and go back to being "respected".
If I didn't respect you, it wouldn't go past you asking me for money or me offering you money.
My pride would keep me from asking a chick for money that's it.
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Posted by RooSagicorn
Why take her to a $ 200 dinner if you just want sex? Does she owe you sex for a dinner that price?



Posted by _Dazed
Women need to be more upfront about what you want.
If you just want hot sex with an attractive man, don't go through the whole wine and dine shpill.
Just ask for how ever much money you think your pussy is worth and negotiate from there.

Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by _Dazed
Women need to be more upfront about what you want.
If you just want hot sex with an attractive man, don't go through the whole wine and dine shpill.
Just ask for how ever much money you think your pussy is worth and negotiate from there.
Why would I ask for money if I ‘just want hot sex’ with him. Doesn’t make sense.
Your whole question is built on the assumption uvd ONLY cares about how a dude looks. She’s never said this.click to expand

Posted by UnusualVaginalDischargePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by _Dazed
Women need to be more upfront about what you want.
If you just want hot sex with an attractive man, don't go through the whole wine and dine shpill.
Just ask for how ever much money you think your pussy is worth and negotiate from there.
Why would I ask for money if I ‘just want hot sex’ with him. Doesn’t make sense.
Your whole question is built on the assumption uvd ONLY cares about how a dude looks. She’s never said this.
And on top of that, I wouldn’t ask for money. I dont offer up my body etcclick to expand


Posted by Arielle83
I think he feels guilty about paying for sex, so he disguised it in food.


Posted by _DazedPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by _Dazed
Women need to be more upfront about what you want.
If you just want hot sex with an attractive man, don't go through the whole wine and dine shpill.
Just ask for how ever much money you think your pussy is worth and negotiate from there.
Why would I ask for money if I ‘just want hot sex’ with him. Doesn’t make sense.
Your whole question is built on the assumption uvd ONLY cares about how a dude looks. She’s never said this.
Is she or is she not waiting on a Spanish Male model to plant his seed?
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Posted by UnusualVaginalDischargePosted by _DazedPosted by UnusualVaginalDischargePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by _Dazed
Women need to be more upfront about what you want.
If you just want hot sex with an attractive man, don't go through the whole wine and dine shpill.
Just ask for how ever much money you think your pussy is worth and negotiate from there.
Why would I ask for money if I ‘just want hot sex’ with him. Doesn’t make sense.
Your whole question is built on the assumption uvd ONLY cares about how a dude looks. She’s never said this.
And on top of that, I wouldn’t ask for money. I dont offer up my body etc
How much would you pay a Spanish Model to lay you?
I wouldn’t pay
I wouldn’t exchange money for sex either way around
Either we’re both attracted to eachother and want to have sex or we don’tclick to expand

Posted by SagittariusInLovePosted by hellosaggyPosted by SagittariusInLovePosted by hellosaggy
Look. you are going to sleep with me anyway... lets just cut to the chase. Why have me take you out to dinner if you need your light bill paid.
I got you boo.
btw, I wine and dine at home. I keep filets and lobster tails on deck. Duck and lamb stays in my freezer, and I have herbs and spices galore. Its one of the benefits of not having kids. I have good connects with butchers and fishmongers.
So that 200 dinner could really only cost me 60 - 70 dollars to make at home.... but I need to be compensated for my efforts!
nothing worse than making a great meal and her going to sleep because she's full. I would have made your ass a salad.
I’ll have the lobster we can talk but you ain’t getting any.
ehhh. wait until we talk and you watch me chef it up.... I'm great company 🙂
I’ve been told I’m great company tooclick to expand

Posted by RooSagicornPosted by _DazedPosted by RooSagicorn
Why take her to a $ 200 dinner if you just want sex? Does she owe you sex for a dinner that price?
Jfc
Is that what I asked? No.
Seriously, why is it a man asks this question and is met with some accusitory bull shit? Do ya'll even know me? It's not like I haven't been here for 10+ years. Do ya'll even look to see who proposed the question before you respond?
Sorry I didn’t mean you specifically, it was more a curiosity question when someone takes one out to a $ 200 dinner. Not intended to be accusatory but more to understand the intent of the person paying.
I can’t answer the question for myself since it doesn’t apply. But the type of person you asked the question about maybe they feel it’s expected. I don’t know. I just wanted a bigger picture of the scenario.click to expand

Posted by _DazedPosted by nanobotPosted by _DazedPosted by nanobot
I'm actually inclined to disagree with most here. I feel that most people don't actually use a date to "get to know one another", but rather treat it as a precursor and the social obligation step to make it into bed. Also, the alcohol makes you lower your inhibitions, so it's like the foreplay before the mating ritual.
At least that what it seems like to me, after having gone on tons of dates that ended with his tongue forcibly make it's way into my mouth. Also there's anger when you don't put out. It's today's fuckboy/fuckgirl culture.
You say you disagree but everything that followed was in agreement?
I meant I disagree with UVD and Alicia and whoever else, that most dates aren't men trying to get to know women. Should have specified
Do you know any men that have be propositioned with "dinner" in lue of sex?
I can't be the only one.click to expand




Posted by LethalFantasiaPosted by Amour
I honestly agree. Unless there's a second date that I'm paying for, nobody's paying for me. 🤐
Lol after reading this thread you're better off paying for yourself for every date unless you're willing to serve him desert with your bod for the after-date!
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Posted by LethalFantasiaPosted by hellosaggyPosted by LethalFantasiaPosted by Amour
I honestly agree. Unless there's a second date that I'm paying for, nobody's paying for me. 🤐
Lol after reading this thread you're better off paying for yourself for every date unless you're willing to serve him desert with your bod for the after-date!![]()
Nah that’s not true. I don’t mind meeting new women, I do it a lot. Women are just as thirsty as men.
The average salary in this area is 37k... I make 3 times that... and these women ain’t astrophysicists. They looking for a come up.
There have been hot girls I’ve met up with that just boring af, don’t look like themself from online, or be on their phones. And when it’s time to pay they get in their feelings because I’m not paying... first thing that come out their mouth is “but you make way more than me”. Yup, because I’m smarter than you.
One woman was like... I can’t pay this. I have to make my car Payment at the end of the week. lol but it was cool when you expected me to pay it though.
Should have went for a walk and some coffee
Their behavior is super gross. But why are you taking such trash out on dates anyway? You need to find nice, respectable women to take out and of course, pay. There are women out there who are worth being "wined and dined" and just getting to know during a date that you payed for without expecting anything sexual in return. That's what a gentleman does.
Just my thoughts. But gross, I totally understand why you feel the way you do judging by how some of those women you took out behaved and the stuff they said. Super gross and cringey behavior. Hope you didn't end up paying for them. lolzclick to expand

Posted by RooSagicornPosted by hellosaggyPosted by RooSagicornPosted by _DazedPosted by RooSagicorn
Why take her to a $ 200 dinner if you just want sex? Does she owe you sex for a dinner that price?
Jfc
Is that what I asked? No.
Seriously, why is it a man asks this question and is met with some accusitory bull shit? Do ya'll even know me? It's not like I haven't been here for 10+ years. Do ya'll even look to see who proposed the question before you respond?
Sorry I didn’t mean you specifically, it was more a curiosity question when someone takes one out to a $ 200 dinner. Not intended to be accusatory but more to understand the intent of the person paying.
I can’t answer the question for myself since it doesn’t apply. But the type of person you asked the question about maybe they feel it’s expected. I don’t know. I just wanted a bigger picture of the scenario.
That’s crazy... pricer dates don’t have to end in sex.... I just expect them to 🤷🏾♂️.
I think women need to be more cognizant of dating situations. When a 200 date is 8 to 10 hours of your persons work. It’s not the same as if it’s 3 hours or 30 hours. Socioeconomics plays a part.
Guys should know their limits too. Don’t try to impress a chick that’s out your price range or if she plays with expectations leave her where you found her.
There is a reason prostitutions been around since the beginning of time also. Don’t dismiss that mans biggest driver for engaging with a woman is lust, not partnership.
I don’t see men running around saying... gosh that Suzy would be great to watch a movie with and cuddle...
As much as people scream gender equality and down with toxic masculinity... gender roles work for a reason. It sets a hierarchy, just make sure you are respecting each other.
I personally feel men should lead and women should manage, and you can still be a team.
Thanks for answering 🙂 haha expect them to. I have heard some women say they thought they owed it for dinner, so I was curious. I know a little twist from the original question but that’s where my mind went. And yes definitely the amount of money is different to different people of different income levels.
Not all men want sex or are about lust. Some want a relationship & to get to know you first. I personally am not having sex with someone cuz they bought me a nice dinner & really I would rather that type of dinner if we’ve been dating for awhile & sex happens cuz we are together & I want to, not about any material things or if you’re hot or good-looking. It’s more about feelings.
I don’t disagree with gender roles. But I do want a partnership. I haven’t quite figured that out 🤷♀️ Too many males being intimidated by a women having a career out there.. or maybe I’m not meeting the right ones! 😉 I need to go back to the city lolclick to expand
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Being wined and dined with a dinner well over $ 200..
Is the same as being paid $ 200 up front for sex.
Change my mind.