Pisces man so sensitive and caring but not really about others' feelings...?

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Hello, I'm looking for some insight from Pisceans, maybe that will help me to understand.

I have a close male friend at work (he's a Fish), we get along amazingly well and I admire him a lot. He told me a few times I'm the only person there he feels comfortable with and only with me he can be himself, real, doesn't have to pretend anything, etc. We've been working together for almost a year and from what I've observed so far, he's extremely caring, rushes to help if someone's in trouble or was mistreated, can be very warm and encouraging, listens very well, has strong values, is very observant and has a good intuition about people - but at the same time is very sensitive to words or critics directed at himself, uses extremely harsh curse words when angry which can cut someone deep to the core, can be moody, indifferent and capricious at times as well, especially when he's exhausted after a long day (he's also an introvert).

The thing is, I got used to his moodiness and accept it but maybe it's got a lot to do with the fact that it was never directed at me - however, recently something happened that shook me to the core. I'm a person who's very sensitive, especially to what someone says and I take everything to heart. We went out with our friends to the cinema but beforehand went to eat something first. I wasn't really that hungry but my fish friend plus another one ordered themselves small pizzas so I asked them if I can take 1 piece from each since it's enough for me and they agreed. Later on I ate one piece from the other friend and said it's enough, I'm not hungry anymore and thanked them.

That's when my dear Fish friend lashed out at me with very harsh and offensive words (apparently because I wanted to eat first and then changed my mind), never ever has anyone talked to me like that, even in the worst quarrels!!! I was so shocked and hurt deeply to the core. After several minutes he started behaving as if nothing happened and was very warm and friendly to me as usual, WHAT-THE-F*** ?!?!

I can't seem to grasp how someone can be so caring and warm etc, and then the next minute lash out at you like no tomorrow, steamrolling you with worst words ever?? I didnt talk to him for 2 days at all and then told him what I felt but he only said we're going to discuss it on Monday.

Do any of you Pisceans ever behave like this?

I don't know what to say to him tomorrow and how to behave, if he wants to talk it out. If it was someone else, I'd cut him off immediately and wouldnt even look back but there's a certain soft spot I have for this friend and I've never got so well in general with anyone so I don't want to do that to him. But I want to let him know how hurt I was. I have a feeling it's just how he is and he probably behaves like that with this friends in his everyday interactions.

Any thoughts to help me understand, please?
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Posted by cinnamonvanilla
Really, nobody 😢?
The reason why nobody has said anything is because you've already answered your own question but are ignoring your instincts to leave him alone. No use in going over everything if you won't even listen to yourself.

"Anybody else...I'd cut them off." OK, so what is so special about this person that you'd be willing to tolerate unwarranted behavior? The truth is, when people do that, they are testing you to see what they can get away with as is in this instance. You can have all the feelings in the world but if this stuff is already happening, it's not going to get better.

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Posted by cinnamonvanilla

- but at the same time is very sensitive to words or critics directed at himself






You mean he acts like you ...... see below ....

Posted by cinnamonvanilla

recently something happened that shook me to the core. I'm a person who's very sensitive, especially to what someone says and I take everything to heart.

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So, let me get this straight ... something very small happened, that was so trivial it should have been swept across your back without your sensitive little feelings getting in the way ... but, you over react.

and why is that? because you think the universe revolves around you? and so if YOUR sensitive, then the whole world must stop and come to your emotional rescue? Because really, you did exactly what you accused him of doing, as being a down side to his character.



Furthermore, some people actually don't like it when you eat off their plate. It's rude !!!! To me, that would be a big fucking deal ... keep your hands off my plate of food.



It looks like you want to reserve the right for yourself to be special value ... while you have zero consideration for the other party, and call them out on the bullshit you do yourself.

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I really doubt he lashed out with very "offensive and harsh words" over a slice of pizza because if he is on that level of easily irritated...then you'd have spotted it with other minor activities at work way before the pizza.

First off...you're not really hungry but have enough of an appetite to sample from two different plates. Okay.

Then you take some time with this because you said "later on" which means that you didn't put the two slices of pizza on your plate then. That means that those two people had to cast aside a slice of pizza on their plate and adapt their eating. So say you are really hungry, someone asks for a slice of your pizza and instead of taking it then...they leave it in your plate for later. Now as you eat pizza you constantly have that slice in your face instead of it being over and done with. Then at the end you no longer want that slice of pizza which now has gone cold and/or your appetite waned but the other person doesn't want it either.

It just reads like...selfishness if I'm being honest. You either are hungry enough to order or to sample or you're not. You don't have someone put a piece of their food on hold for you to not even take it at the end.
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Posted by Happy_Aqua
He probably showed you a side that he has kept hidden from you until now for some reason.

Set boundaries, tell him how his actions made you feel and that you thought it was inappropriate given the situation. Ask him how he feels about what happened.
Thank you, that's what I'll try to do.

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Posted by cinnamonvanilla
Really, nobody 😢?

OK, so what is so special about this person that you'd be willing to tolerate unwarranted behavior? The truth is, when people do that, they are testing you to see what they can get away with as is in this instance. You can have all the feelings in the world but if this stuff is already happening, it's not going to get better.



It's because I have deep feelings for him.... and I know he feels the same. We've been like that for some time, I've confessed to him some time ago but I can see he doesn't fancy rushing into a relationship. However, at the same time he's been giving me all the signs he's into me as well.

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Posted by cinnamonvanilla

- but at the same time is very sensitive to words or critics directed at himself






You mean he acts like you ...... see below ....

Posted by cinnamonvanilla

recently something happened that shook me to the core. I'm a person who's very sensitive, especially to what someone says and I take everything to heart.




So, let me get this straight ... something very small happened, that was so trivial it should have been swept across your back without your sensitive little feelings getting in the way ... but, you over react.

and why is that? because you think the universe revolves around you? and so if YOUR sensitive, then the whole world must stop and come to your emotional rescue? Because really, you did exactly what you accused him of doing, as being a down side to his character.


Thank you, it's good that you made me see this side of the story because it's hard to see some things ourselves, especially when it comes to our own flaws. I really appreciate it and will think it over.

Posted by Piscis_Hominis
Any chance he was joking?

Regardless, seems like it didn't really bother him.

If he did mean it, then he's being a little selfish, immature, and cruel (in a way), especially if he knew you'd be bothered by his reaction.

Can you tell us what he said after you indicated you were not eating any more?


No, he wasn't joking at all.

It's a bit hard to translate what he says (English is not our first language) but something along the lines of:

"Gobble it up (but he didn't really use the usual 'eat/gobble' word - in our language there's a counterpart, which means more or less the same but is very offensive). You will shit yourself if you have to, but you'll eat it no matter what". Something like this. I was very hurt by it😢

Posted by Damnata
I really doubt he lashed out with very "offensive and harsh words" over a slice of pizza because if he is on that level of easily irritated...then you'd have spotted it with other minor activities at work way before the pizza.

First off...you're not really hungry but have enough of an appetite to sample from two different plates. Okay.

Then you take some time with this because you said "later on" which means that you didn't put the two slices of pizza on your plate then. That means that those two people had to cast aside a slice of pizza on their plate and adapt their eating. So say you are really hungry, someone asks for a slice of your pizza and instead of taking it then...they leave it in your plate for later. Now as you eat pizza you constantly have that slice in your face instead of it being over and done with. Then at the end you no longer want that slice of pizza which now has gone cold and/or your appetite waned but the other person doesn't want it either.

It just reads like...selfishness if I'm being honest. You either are hungry enough to order or to sample or you're not. You don't have someone put a piece of their food on hold for you to not even take it at the end.



Thank you for your input. I didn't put those pieces on my plate, I just took one, ate it and said thank you I'm not hungry anymore to my fish friend. He still had it on his plate and was still in the middle of consuming the rest of the pizza. But it may have been selfish of myself.

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Guess she had that talk with the Piscean as today is Monday.

🤗 cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva
Thank you!! My name's Eva, too 😄

We haven't talked yet cause I wasn't feeling good today and worked from home. We'll tsalk tomorrow, I guess...

Posted by Puguglies
OP, what's your sign and what was said to you?
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I'm a Sagittarius but I'm way more sensitive than 'typical' Sags usually are. I'm also ENFP and he's INFP in Myers-Briggs personality types. What he said to me, please read a few lines above, I've explained to another user as well🙂
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Posted by cinnamonvanilla

You will shit yourself if you have to, but you'll eat it no matter what". Something like this. I was very hurt by it




You've got to be kidding.

You're making a major scene about your feelings over that? something that trivial?

He didn't want you taking a piece of his pie, and then when he did give it to you, you blew him off.

You did all of this by acting like you're more deserving than the next person. Next time, get your own fucking food and take your paws off someone else's plate.



How rude of you.



There's nothing wrong in what he said ... he basically is saying, "oh no, come hell or high water, you're eating it. You've made this situation happen with MY food and now you're eating even if you have vomit the contents of your stomach"

that's what you get for being so rude to those two men. These two were hungry and you imposed yourself on their food.

People get what they deserve, and it sounds to me like you brought this whole thing on yourself because you didn't have enough grace to consider that this was their food - NOT YOURS

It may be that your mommy had you on the couch for years and years, doing your laundry and treating you like a Princess ..... but, now you're in the real world ... so suck it the fuck up and take responsibility for your lack of consideration.
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AND .....

There's no doubt in my mind that you continue to make federal case out of and continue to believe he needs to smooth over your feelings.

Frm the way you're talking, there's no way that you have enough maturity to let this pass. Oh no, you're going to make damn sure he repents to you .... because that's how selfish people operate. They think they are the center of the universe, and all people are to cater to you.



Why don't you try being a grown up, and let it pass. why don't you at least try to have the understanding that not everyone is for YOU
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Posted by cinnamonvanilla
It's because I have deep feelings for him.... and I know he feels the same. We've been like that for some time, I've confessed to him some time ago but I can see he doesn't fancy rushing into a relationship. However, at the same time he's been giving me all the signs he's into me as well.
Lol actually him telling you he doesn't want a relationship is the nice way of letting you down gently. He DOESN'T 'feel the same'. Perhaps with this pizza incident he is attempting to let you know that it isn't a date just because you commandeered the meal he purchased himself. You need to quit while your ahead.
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He didn't want you taking a piece of his pie, and then when he did give it to you, you blew him off.

You did all of this by acting like you're more deserving than the next person. Next time, get your own fucking food and take your paws off someone else's plate.



How rude of you.



There's nothing wrong in what he said ... he basically is saying, "oh no, come hell or high water, you're eating it. You've made this situation happen with MY food and now you're eating even if you have vomit the contents of your stomach"

that's what you get for being so rude to those two men. These two were hungry and you imposed yourself on their food.


Ok, now I see that you've misunderstood what I said all the way and created your own story. He did want me to take his piece, we are very close in general and always sharing food if any of us has something. You seem to think we are only acquaintances and he was 'just nice'. Hell no.

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Posted by cinnamonvanilla
It's because I have deep feelings for him.... and I know he feels the same. We've been like that for some time, I've confessed to him some time ago but I can see he doesn't fancy rushing into a relationship. However, at the same time he's been giving me all the signs he's into me as well.
Lol actually him telling you he doesn't want a relationship is the nice way of letting you down gently. He DOESN'T 'feel the same'. Perhaps with this pizza incident he is attempting to let you know that it isn't a date just because you commandeered the meal he purchased himself. You need to quit while your ahead.
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He does reciprocate my feelings, I know and can feel that, besides a lot of our workmates told me that without even me mentioning anything so they see it as well. And you're just a person from the internet who doesn't know the whole story and is writing some irrelevant comments.
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Posted by cinnamonvanilla
Hello, I'm looking for some insight from Pisceans, maybe that will help me to understand.

I have a close male friend at work (he's a Fish), we get along amazingly well and I admire him a lot. He told me a few times I'm the only person there he feels comfortable with and only with me he can be himself, real, doesn't have to pretend anything, etc. We've been working together for almost a year and from what I've observed so far, he's extremely caring, rushes to help if someone's in trouble or was mistreated, can be very warm and encouraging, listens very well, has strong values, is very observant and has a good intuition about people - but at the same time is very sensitive to words or critics directed at himself, uses extremely harsh curse words when angry which can cut someone deep to the core, can be moody, indifferent and capricious at times as well, especially when he's exhausted after a long day (he's also an introvert).

The thing is, I got used to his moodiness and accept it but maybe it's got a lot to do with the fact that it was never directed at me - however, recently something happened that shook me to the core. I'm a person who's very sensitive, especially to what someone says and I take everything to heart. We went out with our friends to the cinema but beforehand went to eat something first. I wasn't really that hungry but my fish friend plus another one ordered themselves small pizzas so I asked them if I can take 1 piece from each since it's enough for me and they agreed. Later on I ate one piece from the other friend and said it's enough, I'm not hungry anymore and thanked them.

That's when my dear Fish friend lashed out at me with very harsh and offensive words (apparently because I wanted to eat first and then changed my mind), never ever has anyone talked to me like that, even in the worst quarrels!!! I was so shocked and hurt deeply to the core. After several minutes he started behaving as if nothing happened and was very warm and friendly to me as usual, WHAT-THE-F*** ?!?!

I can't seem to grasp how someone can be so caring and warm etc, and then the next minute lash out at you like no tomorrow, steamrolling you with worst words ever?? I didnt talk to him for 2 days at all and then told him what I felt but he only said we're going to discuss it on Monday.

Do any of you Pisceans ever behave like this?

I don't know what to say to him tomorrow and how to behave, if he wants to talk it out. If it was someone else, I'd cut him off immediately and wouldnt even look back but there's a certain soft spot I have for this friend and I've never got so well in general with anyone so I don't want to do that to him. But I want to let him know how hurt I was. I have a feeling it's just how he is and he probably behaves like that with this friends in his everyday interactions.

Any thoughts to help me understand, please?
sounds like my ex-husband ... and I don't have any thoughts to help you understand - I'm divorced - that should say it all