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I am a Gemini and you are being mind-fucked. She does not want to work things out with you. This is not how ANYONE acts when they want things to work out. She's holding up the hoops and you are jumping right through like a fucking dolphin.

"She has also, said that it's either this or we can end the relationship really cold." - here is your clue. That was YOUR moment to say, "You're right. Good-bye" Everything is a test with us. You want to settle down properly? Then you need someone who is on the same page with that. She's obviously not. She can be a great person all day long, but she's not a great person with you.

You have got to let this go. I'm sorry but you do.


What should I do seriously can you message me please ?
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I don't see his demands on her. Only hers on him. She is setting him up with expectations that he can't (or won't) ever meet. What happened to accepting the person that you love, flaws and all? (ugh! sometimes my Cancer moon speaks for me).

Somebody else might just ignore his broke-ass and love everything else about him. (I'm speculating on his finances - LOL) We can sit on the sidelines and show him the next move to take with her, but there are fundamental things wrong here that don't seem to be fixable. Or fixable but only if both approach it with some compassion or understanding. Instead, this is like watching something die slowly.
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Posted by geminiflyby

I don't see his demands on her. Only hers on him. She is setting him up with expectations that he can't (or won't) ever meet. What happened to accepting the person that you love, flaws and all? (ugh! sometimes my Cancer moon speaks for me).

Somebody else might just ignore his broke-ass and love everything else about him. (I'm speculating on his finances - LOL) We can sit on the sidelines and show him the next move to take with her, but there are fundamental things wrong here that don't seem to be fixable. Or fixable but only if both approach it with some compassion or understanding. Instead, this is like watching something die slowly.


Click on his profile and read through the ten thousand threads hes made to bad mouth his relationship.
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I am a Gemini and you are being mind-fucked. She does not want to work things out with you. This is not how ANYONE acts when they want things to work out. She's holding up the hoops and you are jumping right through like a fucking dolphin.

"She has also, said that it's either this or we can end the relationship really cold." - here is your clue. That was YOUR moment to say, "You're right. Good-bye" Everything is a test with us. You want to settle down properly? Then you need someone who is on the same page with that. She's obviously not. She can be a great person all day long, but she's not a great person with you.

You have got to let this go. I'm sorry but you do.

What should I do seriously can you message me please ?
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She is saying she wants the fun back between me and her and not all the clingy stuff and the so serious stuff, she wants me to stop going on asking if she is okay and if we are okay etc.

And because I did not completely stop it she is now saying it brought her to the point.

I kind of understand why she feels a little like this but I felt insecure about us from Christmas time when she said she isn't happy and does not want to be in the relationship anymore and we will break up after the new year, due to my ex being around some of my family members still as she thinks this is wrong for my ex to do this and I kind of understand this however we have children together me and my ex partner also the other night when I had my children my ex text me to ask how the kids are and my partner went crazy saying why the fuck is she texting you asking about the kids at this time she is just trying to make conversation with with why don't you grow some balls and tell her to stop contacting you.

Then she went on to say I dont care if she is texting at a decent time about the kids but to do it a little late when it's suppose to be our down time she knows what she is doing. So I had to text my ex saying the kids are fine but in future could you text me a little earlier as they ate in bed.
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Posted by geminiflyby

I don't see his demands on her. Only hers on him. She is setting him up with expectations that he can't (or won't) ever meet. What happened to accepting the person that you love, flaws and all? (ugh! sometimes my Cancer moon speaks for me).

Somebody else might just ignore his broke-ass and love everything else about him. (I'm speculating on his finances - LOL) We can sit on the sidelines and show him the next move to take with her, but there are fundamental things wrong here that don't seem to be fixable. Or fixable but only if both approach it with some compassion or understanding. Instead, this is like watching something die slowly.


I have since got back on track with my finances and would never get back to that this was down to past problems with my ex.
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Back to my earlier post - there are fundamental differences that you can't seem to work out. There are children involved, ex's involved. That's not gonna change. My question to you is why do you even want to be in this situation? What are you getting out of this? Rhetorical questions - no answer required. Just for you to answer for your own self.

@LadyNeptune - I'd rather scratch my eyes out than read through all that. LOL

@Centaur12 - I can't help anymore if I even did at all 😢
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Posted by geminiflyby

Back to my earlier post - there are fundamental differences that you can't seem to work out. There are children involved, ex's involved. That's not gonna change. My question to you is why do you even want to be in this situation? What are you getting out of this?

@LadyNeptune - I'd rather scratch my eyes out than read through all that. LOL

@Centaur12 - I can't help anymore if I even did at all 😢


I blame my dam Scorpio placement for fighting for love and not giving up😔,

Seriously I love her and she is someone I have always wanted deep down and waited for she ticked all the boxes for me.
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Posted by geminiflyby

Back to my earlier post - there are fundamental differences that you can't seem to work out. There are children involved, ex's involved. That's not gonna change. My question to you is why do you even want to be in this situation? What are you getting out of this?

@LadyNeptune - I'd rather scratch my eyes out than read through all that. LOL

@Centaur12 - I can't help anymore if I even did at all 😢


I'm fairly certain this is the same user, older account.

https://www.dxpnet.com/users/winters12/

22 topics in 6 months all pretty much about the same ish.
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Posted by geminiflyby

Back to my earlier post - there are fundamental differences that you can't seem to work out. There are children involved, ex's involved. That's not gonna change. My question to you is why do you even want to be in this situation? What are you getting out of this?

@LadyNeptune - I'd rather scratch my eyes out than read through all that. LOL

@Centaur12 - I can't help anymore if I even did at all 😢

I blame my dam Scorpio placement for fighting for love and not giving up😔,

Seriously I love her and she is someone I have always wanted deep down and waited for she ticked all the boxes for me.
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NOPE!! Blame your MOON lol
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Posted by geminiflyby

Back to my earlier post - there are fundamental differences that you can't seem to work out. There are children involved, ex's involved. That's not gonna change. My question to you is why do you even want to be in this situation? What are you getting out of this?

@LadyNeptune - I'd rather scratch my eyes out than read through all that. LOL

@Centaur12 - I can't help anymore if I even did at all 😢

I'm fairly certain this is the same user, older account.

https://www.dxpnet.com/users/winters12/

22 topics in 6 months all pretty much about the same ish.
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I had some time so I read through a few winters 12 posts.

You guys are so young!

The Gemini seems like an immature, selfish, asshole.

Your ex took your oldest in and treated her like her own and your current girl has a problem with that? With your ex having all the kids together when she’s raised them all for the last 8/9 years?!

What type of mother would have a problem with this? She would want her kids being treated right by you but doesn’t want your ex to be involved with your oldest? That seems crazy.

The Geminis only about 29? She has a lot of growing up to do. She’s immature as hell.
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I had some time so I read through a few winters 12 posts.

You guys are so young!

The Gemini seems like an immature, selfish, asshole.

Your ex took your oldest in and treated her like her own and your current girl has a problem with that? With your ex having all the kids together when she’s raised them all for the last 8/9 years?!

What type of mother would have a problem with this? She would want her kids being treated right by you but doesn’t want your ex to be involved with your oldest? That seems crazy.

The Geminis only about 29? She has a lot of growing up to do. She’s immature as hell.


The feeling I am getting is to just leave her too it and not get so emotionally involved with her do my own thing because it's clearly stairing me in the face that she is kind of stringing me along.

I could next time when she says it's either this or we break up say okay let's do that then.

Because from what she's giving me she doesn't really mind either way.

I kind of want to teach her a lesson I don't want that to sound harsh or anything but for me to leave and maybe she will then realise everything I do for her and her children and the way that I treat her etc.

Or maybe she won't realise and just move on and not think about us who knows.

I do know that this is taking every energy I have and its kind of destroying me inside to the point where I don't even know how to have a laugh anymore even when I am with my friends.
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She text me saying she's missing me now is this a game or something 🤔 I duno anyway I'm just going to play it cool without emotions cbf everytime I try showing stuff I end up feeling hurt.


WTF—?You just stated that all was good in the hood, a week ago. I knew that it was only a matter of time, before her resting cookie monster face showed back up...She noticed a slight change in you, and became interested again, until you got a whiff of her regained interest, and reverted back to your old sniveling ways, now she sees that you are still under her spell, she will play again... I have nothing left for you.
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She text me saying she's missing me now is this a game or something 🤔 I duno anyway I'm just going to play it cool without emotions cbf everytime I try showing stuff I end up feeling hurt.

WTF—?You just stated that all was good in the hood, a week ago. I knew that it was only a matter of time, before her resting cookie monster face showed back up...She noticed a slight change in you, and became interested again, until you got a whiff of her regained interest, and reverted back to your old sniveling ways, now she sees that you are still under her spell, she will play again... I have nothing left for you.
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I get what your saying but I don't want to be paying these games anymore I just want a serious relationship where I can settle with her yet everytime I revert back to that this happens like wtf do I do in this situation. It really is sad tbh
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Again you need to break the cycle one way or another smh


I don't know what the best way to do this is 😒 she is just fucking with my head and feelings now. Even to the point where she changed her profile pic of me and her and I put some really nice photos of us up on social media and she hasn't even liked it, I know it's not important and I have bigger things to worry about but little things like that still hurt when I am trying to put effort in.
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She text me saying she's missing me now is this a game or something 🤔 I duno anyway I'm just going to play it cool without emotions cbf everytime I try showing stuff I end up feeling hurt.

WTF—?You just stated that all was good in the hood, a week ago. I knew that it was only a matter of time, before her resting cookie monster face showed back up...She noticed a slight change in you, and became interested again, until you got a whiff of her regained interest, and reverted back to your old sniveling ways, now she sees that you are still under her spell, she will play again... I have nothing left for you.

I get what your saying but I don't want to be paying these games anymore I just want a serious relationship where I can settle with her yet everytime I revert back to that this happens like wtf do I do in this situation. It really is sad tbh
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CUT HER THE TREETRUNK OFF!!! PERIOD!!!
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Again you need to break the cycle one way or another smh

I don't know what the best way to do this is 😒 she is just fucking with my head and feelings now. Even to the point where she changed her profile pic of me and her and I put some really nice photos of us up on social media and she hasn't even liked it, I know it's not important and I have bigger things to worry about but little things like that still hurt when I am trying to put effort in.

You are way too soft to be a true Sag...Just last week, you thought that everything was back to normal, just because she threw some attention your way...You are so busy worrying about hurting her feelings, when that is exactly what you need to do. I feel sorry for you man...I told you, to FLIPT THE script! Not just for a couple of days, change the whole dynamic of your relationship. You are the man...I forget, some Sag men act like pansies for Gemini women...Brad Pitt/Angelina Jolie...SMH.
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Again you need to break the cycle one way or another smh

I don't know what the best way to do this is 😒 she is just fucking with my head and feelings now. Even to the point where she changed her profile pic of me and her and I put some really nice photos of us up on social media and she hasn't even liked it, I know it's not important and I have bigger things to worry about but little things like that still hurt when I am trying to put effort in.

You are way too soft to be a true Sag...Just last week, you thought that everything was back to normal, just because she threw some attention your way...You are so busy worrying about hurting her feelings, when that is exactly what you need to do. I feel sorry for you man...I told you, to FLIPT THE script! Not just for a couple of days, change the whole dynamic of your relationship. You are the man...I forget, some Sag men act like pansies for Gemini women...Brad Pitt/Angelina Jolie...SMH.

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Okay she rang me to say come down tonight and I will do you some food so I said what you want me to come down ? And she said yeah of course I do.

If she asks me to stay the night ima say no I'm going home.

Because last night she said she didn't want me to stay and to go back to basics etc and when we was comfortable and cuddled on her bed she said you have to make a move soon don't you?

So when it comes to the evening I will say I have to go soon and will see how she reacts even she says stay ima say no you said about taking it slow so ima go home.
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Again you need to break the cycle one way or another smh

I don't know what the best way to do this is 😒 she is just fucking with my head and feelings now. Even to the point where she changed her profile pic of me and her and I put some really nice photos of us up on social media and she hasn't even liked it, I know it's not important and I have bigger things to worry about but little things like that still hurt when I am trying to put effort in.

You are way too soft to be a true Sag...Just last week, you thought that everything was back to normal, just because she threw some attention your way...You are so busy worrying about hurting her feelings, when that is exactly what you need to do. I feel sorry for you man...I told you, to FLIPT THE script! Not just for a couple of days, change the whole dynamic of your relationship. You are the man...I forget, some Sag men act like pansies for Gemini women...Brad Pitt/Angelina Jolie...SMH.

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Tell you what will be interesting is to see if she wants me to stay the night tomorrow night.

The reason I say that is because I usually watch her children on a Wednesday night while she goes to the gym training.

I anit being used fuck no !! I will stay at mine tomorrow as well.
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I had some time so I read through a few winters 12 posts.

You guys are so young!

The Gemini seems like an immature, selfish, asshole.

Your ex took your oldest in and treated her like her own and your current girl has a problem with that? With your ex having all the kids together when she’s raised them all for the last 8/9 years?!

What type of mother would have a problem with this? She would want her kids being treated right by you but doesn’t want your ex to be involved with your oldest? That seems crazy.

The Geminis only about 29? She has a lot of growing up to do. She’s immature as hell.

The feeling I am getting is to just leave her too it and not get so emotionally involved with her do my own thing because it's clearly stairing me in the face that she is kind of stringing me along.

I could next time when she says it's either this or we break up say okay let's do that then.

Because from what she's giving me she doesn't really mind either way.

I kind of want to teach her a lesson I don't want that to sound harsh or anything but for me to leave and maybe she will then realise everything I do for her and her children and the way that I treat her etc.

Or maybe she won't realise and just move on and not think about us who knows.

I do know that this is taking every energy I have and its kind of destroying me inside to the point where I don't even know how to have a laugh anymore even when I am with my friends.
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You've been dealing with the same thing for almost 2 years now with her and both of you are unhappy. It seems like real space and reflection is needed.

She shouldn't have to want you to change, she should be accepting of who you are.

You're pretty vague about the details of what she's asking for and you said you've gotten the financial aspects out of the way- so that's good.

You two really have two different personalities and you don't step out of your comfort zone in order to put your foot down about issues you two are having.

Even Jeane gave you solid advice to lay everything on the table and work through it with communication, but you're back to square one again, her being demanding and running you wild and you being needy.

I was shaped by my relationship with a Gemini just as much as you have been shaped by your relationship with a Sag. And the behavior dealing with both is almost flipped inside out.

I'm a woman and learned to not show much emotions because my Gemini showed them all and I just had to reciprocate. So I got used to not making emotional efforts.

A Sag needs emotions to be shown and it seems like you are great at showing them, which probably worked well with your ex Sag, it probably balanced things out (I'm assuming you and the ex Sag learned to show them and be transparent with each other to work through things) I'm a little envious.

But you and the Gemini are not balanced. Both of you over do the extremes. She's not comforting to you, she's making you more insecure with the things she says, that she probably doesn't even mean. But you can't get past it.

I seriously think space and a clear head will help you out.

You both should be working on compromise that makes you happy. Not working on changing each other for there to be happiness.

She's not going to stop nagging or treating you this way because you let her and haven't set boundaries of how you want to be treated. She's pretty much complaining about the same thing.

It's just not working. And advice given to you doesn't do much good because it's not your style of doing things. You're gonna have to find what actually works for you in order to get things stable and solid.
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Again you need to break the cycle one way or another smh

I don't know what the best way to do this is 😒 she is just fucking with my head and feelings now. Even to the point where she changed her profile pic of me and her and I put some really nice photos of us up on social media and she hasn't even liked it, I know it's not important and I have bigger things to worry about but little things like that still hurt when I am trying to put effort in.

You are way too soft to be a true Sag...Just last week, you thought that everything was back to normal, just because she threw some attention your way...You are so busy worrying about hurting her feelings, when that is exactly what you need to do. I feel sorry for you man...I told you, to FLIPT THE script! Not just for a couple of days, change the whole dynamic of your relationship. You are the man...I forget, some Sag men act like pansies for Gemini women...Brad Pitt/Angelina Jolie...SMH.

Okay she rang me to say come down tonight and I will do you some food so I said what you want me to come down ? And she said yeah of course I do.

If she asks me to stay the night ima say no I'm going home.

Because last night she said she didn't want me to stay and to go back to basics etc and when we was comfortable and cuddled on her bed she said you have to make a move soon don't you?

So when it comes to the evening I will say I have to go soon and will see how she reacts even she says stay ima say no you said about taking it slow so ima go home.

If she asks me to stay the night ima say no I'm going home.

Because last night she said she didn't want me to stay and to go back to basics etc and when we was comfortable and cuddled on her bed she said you have to make a move soon don't you?


Youre being petty and passive agressive again. You will get nothing from being this way
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I get that and its not what I want to do but what else can I do just go with it.
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Again you need to break the cycle one way or another smh

I don't know what the best way to do this is 😒 she is just fucking with my head and feelings now. Even to the point where she changed her profile pic of me and her and I put some really nice photos of us up on social media and she hasn't even liked it, I know it's not important and I have bigger things to worry about but little things like that still hurt when I am trying to put effort in.

You are way too soft to be a true Sag...Just last week, you thought that everything was back to normal, just because she threw some attention your way...You are so busy worrying about hurting her feelings, when that is exactly what you need to do. I feel sorry for you man...I told you, to FLIPT THE script! Not just for a couple of days, change the whole dynamic of your relationship. You are the man...I forget, some Sag men act like pansies for Gemini women...Brad Pitt/Angelina Jolie...SMH.

Okay she rang me to say come down tonight and I will do you some food so I said what you want me to come down ? And she said yeah of course I do.

If she asks me to stay the night ima say no I'm going home.

Because last night she said she didn't want me to stay and to go back to basics etc and when we was comfortable and cuddled on her bed she said you have to make a move soon don't you?

So when it comes to the evening I will say I have to go soon and will see how she reacts even she says stay ima say no you said about taking it slow so ima go home.
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smh this is playing games. You need to have this attitude when she says she doesn't want you to stay.
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Again you need to break the cycle one way or another smh

I don't know what the best way to do this is 😒 she is just fucking with my head and feelings now. Even to the point where she changed her profile pic of me and her and I put some really nice photos of us up on social media and she hasn't even liked it, I know it's not important and I have bigger things to worry about but little things like that still hurt when I am trying to put effort in.






You are way too soft to be a true Sag...Just last week, you thought that everything was back to normal, just because she threw some attention your way...You are so busy worrying about hurting her feelings, when that is exactly what you need to do. I feel sorry for you man...I told you, to FLIPT THE script! Not just for a couple of days, change the whole dynamic of your relationship. You are the man...I forget, some Sag men act like pansies for Gemini women...Brad Pitt/Angelina Jolie...SMH.

Okay she rang me to say come down tonight and I will do you some food so I said what you want me to come down ? And she said yeah of course I do.

If she asks me to stay the night ima say no I'm going home.

Because last night she said she didn't want me to stay and to go back to basics etc and when we was comfortable and cuddled on her bed she said you have to make a move soon don't you?

So when it comes to the evening I will say I have to go soon and will see how she reacts even she says stay ima say no you said about taking it slow so ima go home.
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How about saying, I made other plans....Maybe another time😉
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Just to update you I have just got back from hers she asked me round for tea and I said ok.

We was led in bed and she was cuddling into me and then I looked at the time and said I better go as I'm getting tired and I know you are as well.

Then when I got up from the bed she said to me you can stay you know.

I replied no I can't and I said are you going to see me out and she said yes of course.

Walked down stairs and would not let go of me and then I was driving home and nearly back at my place and she text saying (thank you for a good night together and I miss you already so this, going back to basics seems to be working) what she doesn't understand is that it's actually doing the opposite for me to be honest it's making me pull more away from her.

Earlier on in the night she was led on her bed on her phone and I was stood in the door way she was pushing her ass up and down on the bed trying to make out she wanted sex trying to turn me on not going to lie I had to look away or she may of turnt me on 😅 and then she looked behind and smiled and smirking at me.
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I had some time so I read through a few winters 12 posts.

You guys are so young!

The Gemini seems like an immature, selfish, asshole.

Your ex took your oldest in and treated her like her own and your current girl has a problem with that? With your ex having all the kids together when she’s raised them all for the last 8/9 years?!

What type of mother would have a problem with this? She would want her kids being treated right by you but doesn’t want your ex to be involved with your oldest? That seems crazy.

The Geminis only about 29? She has a lot of growing up to do. She’s immature as hell.

The feeling I am getting is to just leave her too it and not get so emotionally involved with her do my own thing because it's clearly stairing me in the face that she is kind of stringing me along.

I could next time when she says it's either this or we break up say okay let's do that then.

Because from what she's giving me she doesn't really mind either way.

I kind of want to teach her a lesson I don't want that to sound harsh or anything but for me to leave and maybe she will then realise everything I do for her and her children and the way that I treat her etc.

Or maybe she won't realise and just move on and not think about us who knows.

I do know that this is taking every energy I have and its kind of destroying me inside to the point where I don't even know how to have a laugh anymore even when I am with my friends.

You've been dealing with the same thing for almost 2 years now with her and both of you are unhappy. It seems like real space and reflection is needed.

She shouldn't have to want you to change, she should be accepting of who you are.

You're pretty vague about the details of what she's asking for and you said you've gotten the financial aspects out of the way- so that's good.

You two really have two different personalities and you don't step out of your comfort zone in order to put your foot down about issues you two are having.

Even Jeane gave you solid advice to lay everything on the table and work through it with communication, but you're back to square one again, her being demanding and running you wild and you being needy.

I was shaped by my relationship with a Gemini just as much as you have been shaped by your relationship with a Sag. And the behavior dealing with both is almost flipped inside out.

I'm a woman and learned to not show much emotions because my Gemini showed them all and I just had to reciprocate. So I got used to not making emotional efforts.

A Sag needs emotions to be shown and it seems like you are great at showing them, which probably worked well with your ex Sag, it probably balanced things out (I'm assuming you and the ex Sag learned to show them and be transparent with each other to work through things) I'm a little envious.

But you and the Gemini are not balanced. Both of you over do the extremes. She's not comforting to you, she's making you more insecure with the things she says, that she probably doesn't even mean. But you can't get past it.

I seriously think space and a clear head will help you out.

You both should be working on compromise that makes you happy. Not working on changing each other for there to be happiness.

She's not going to stop nagging or treating you this way because you let her and haven't set boundaries of how you want to be treated. She's pretty much complaining about the same thing.

It's just not working. And advice given to you doesn't do much good because it's not your style of doing things. You're gonna have to find what actually works for you in order to get things stable and solid.
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Very true the interesting thing with my ex is we both have the same Sun and Moon Sag/Aqua 😅

I sort of showed more emotions and demands but she was more reserved unless I upset her then she was demanding.

There was a natural flow between us and I would always make her laugh even now.

It balanced out tbh with you, we was very close and both very loyal to eachother.

I was very depressed and fed up with routine and doing all the work and paying everything as she never worked I hated it she never supported me.
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I had some time so I read through a few winters 12 posts.

You guys are so young!

The Gemini seems like an immature, selfish, asshole.

Your ex took your oldest in and treated her like her own and your current girl has a problem with that? With your ex having all the kids together when she’s raised them all for the last 8/9 years?!

What type of mother would have a problem with this? She would want her kids being treated right by you but doesn’t want your ex to be involved with your oldest? That seems crazy.

The Geminis only about 29? She has a lot of growing up to do. She’s immature as hell.

The feeling I am getting is to just leave her too it and not get so emotionally involved with her do my own thing because it's clearly stairing me in the face that she is kind of stringing me along.

I could next time when she says it's either this or we break up say okay let's do that then.

Because from what she's giving me she doesn't really mind either way.

I kind of want to teach her a lesson I don't want that to sound harsh or anything but for me to leave and maybe she will then realise everything I do for her and her children and the way that I treat her etc.

Or maybe she won't realise and just move on and not think about us who knows.

I do know that this is taking every energy I have and its kind of destroying me inside to the point where I don't even know how to have a laugh anymore even when I am with my friends.

You've been dealing with the same thing for almost 2 years now with her and both of you are unhappy. It seems like real space and reflection is needed.

She shouldn't have to want you to change, she should be accepting of who you are.

You're pretty vague about the details of what she's asking for and you said you've gotten the financial aspects out of the way- so that's good.

You two really have two different personalities and you don't step out of your comfort zone in order to put your foot down about issues you two are having.

Even Jeane gave you solid advice to lay everything on the table and work through it with communication, but you're back to square one again, her being demanding and running you wild and you being needy.

I was shaped by my relationship with a Gemini just as much as you have been shaped by your relationship with a Sag. And the behavior dealing with both is almost flipped inside out.

I'm a woman and learned to not show much emotions because my Gemini showed them all and I just had to reciprocate. So I got used to not making emotional efforts.

A Sag needs emotions to be shown and it seems like you are great at showing them, which probably worked well with your ex Sag, it probably balanced things out (I'm assuming you and the ex Sag learned to show them and be transparent with each other to work through things) I'm a little envious.

But you and the Gemini are not balanced. Both of you over do the extremes. She's not comforting to you, she's making you more insecure with the things she says, that she probably doesn't even mean. But you can't get past it.

I seriously think space and a clear head will help you out.

You both should be working on compromise that makes you happy. Not working on changing each other for there to be happiness.

She's not going to stop nagging or treating you this way because you let her and haven't set boundaries of how you want to be treated. She's pretty much complaining about the same thing.

It's just not working. And advice given to you doesn't do much good because it's not your style of doing things. You're gonna have to find what actually works for you in order to get things stable and solid.

Very true the interesting thing with my ex is we both have the same Sun and Moon Sag/Aqua 😅

I sort of showed more emotions and demands but she was more reserved unless I upset her then she was demanding.

There was a natural flow between us and I would always make her laugh even now.

It balanced out tbh with you, we was very close and both very loyal to eachother.

I was very depressed and fed up with routine and doing all the work and paying everything as she never worked I hated it she never supported me.
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That sucks that things didn't work out for you two.

I'm not sure how much more advice can be given, usually like with any relationship, it's about balance. You two both not having your needs met, seems to be the reason why both of you are demanding change. But you can't seem to work out how to go about it.

There are core issues that the two of you can't seem to talk about. Like a communication block or something.

In my relationships, things make sense once I'm not in the middle of it. On the outside looking in gives me better perspective.

Hopefully if you decide to take a break, things will become clear. Cause what you two are doing is just going in circles over the same issues. Someone has to budge or come up with a solution that fits both parties. And it doesn't have to be about giving in to one or the other. It should be a solution that fits both people involved.
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Just to update you I have just got back from hers she asked me round for tea and I said ok.

We was led in bed and she was cuddling into me and then I looked at the time and said I better go as I'm getting tired and I know you are as well.

Then when I got up from the bed she said to me you can stay you know.

I replied no I can't and I said are you going to see me out and she said yes of course.

Walked down stairs and would not let go of me and then I was driving home and nearly back at my place and she text saying (thank you for a good night together and I miss you already so this, going back to basics seems to be working) what she doesn't understand is that it's actually doing the opposite for me to be honest it's making me pull more away from her.

Earlier on in the night she was led on her bed on her phone and I was stood in the door way she was pushing her ass up and down on the bed trying to make out she wanted sex trying to turn me on not going to lie I had to look away or she may of turnt me on 😅 and then she looked behind and smiled and smirking at me.


SMH So you're not done lol

At least learn to play the game then.

Take notes of you sticking to your ground and not giving in as being what works and what turns her on.

All it boils down to is you not acting out of desperation and being needy and she starts acting normal, like a typical female.

Hopefully you can be comfortable doing more of this.
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Just to update you I have just got back from hers she asked me round for tea and I said ok.

We was led in bed and she was cuddling into me and then I looked at the time and said I better go as I'm getting tired and I know you are as well.

Then when I got up from the bed she said to me you can stay you know.

I replied no I can't and I said are you going to see me out and she said yes of course.

Walked down stairs and would not let go of me and then I was driving home and nearly back at my place and she text saying (thank you for a good night together and I miss you already so this, going back to basics seems to be working) what she doesn't understand is that it's actually doing the opposite for me to be honest it's making me pull more away from her.

Earlier on in the night she was led on her bed on her phone and I was stood in the door way she was pushing her ass up and down on the bed trying to make out she wanted sex trying to turn me on not going to lie I had to look away or she may of turnt me on 😅 and then she looked behind and smiled and smirking at me.

SMH So you're not done lol

At least learn to play the game then.

Take notes of you sticking to your ground and not giving in as being what works and what turns her on.

All it boils down to is you not acting out of desperation and being needy and she starts acting normal, like a typical female.

Hopefully you can be comfortable doing more of this.
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So today since this morning she has been in a terrible mood and said she doesn't know why she's just having one of them days, anyway we decided to meet up after work with our children.

When I got to her house she was ready to go on a walk together like we agreed yet she wouldn't greet me properly so I went up to her smiled and gave her a kiss.

She was still in this terrible mood she said I tried to ring you but you missed the call and I did as I was driving to hers.

I said sorry I was driving to yours she said I was going to say i picked up my little girl from nursery/playschool and the worker came out and said your daughter has been saying she doesn't want to play with one of the kids and saying she doesn't want to be her friends etc as kids do sometimes.

She said it was embarrassing to hear that and I haven't brought up my children to be like that.

She then said its because our children argue between eachother and that is where she's getting it from and I said yeah they do from time to time but that is kids she could be picking it up anywhere.

She was in a right mood so I said come on let's go back I can tell you don't want to go on this walk etc.

So we did and I went home and she stayed at hers in a piss didn't even say goodbye to me properly.

I got home and I rang her and I said I understand how you must of felt hearing that and I am not interested in an argument with you.

I suggest that we keep the girls apart for now until they appreciate seeing eachother and letting eachother play together and be nice to eachother.

She said thank you for supporting me yet still didn't want to talk.

So i left it an hour and text her saying Look it's about dealing with the problem together and coming up with a solution, not fighting eachother.

I understand you have woken up in a shit mood and your feeling the way you are today we all have day's like that I get it best thing to do is go have a bath and some time alone once the kids are in bed and relax I get it listen I love you it's okay and I'm here when you want to talk xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

So I left it until tonight as didn't hear anything from her yet she was on facebook and I spoke to her on the phone I tried to be calm and talk to her yet she said I don't want to talk over the phone can we text as I don't want my oldest to hear and I said I havent really spoken to you though and it would be good to.

She said to me I am going to cut you off and I said I don't want to argue just talk and she cut me off. I text her saying wow thanks for that and she text saying you wouldn't listen so I cut you off and then I text to say what so it's okay to treat me like that isit ? . She said I just want to focus on my girls. So I put back Okay. And that has been the end of it at the moment.
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Just to update you I have just got back from hers she asked me round for tea and I said ok.

We was led in bed and she was cuddling into me and then I looked at the time and said I better go as I'm getting tired and I know you are as well.

Then when I got up from the bed she said to me you can stay you know.

I replied no I can't and I said are you going to see me out and she said yes of course.

Walked down stairs and would not let go of me and then I was driving home and nearly back at my place and she text saying (thank you for a good night together and I miss you already so this, going back to basics seems to be working) what she doesn't understand is that it's actually doing the opposite for me to be honest it's making me pull more away from her.

Earlier on in the night she was led on her bed on her phone and I was stood in the door way she was pushing her ass up and down on the bed trying to make out she wanted sex trying to turn me on not going to lie I had to look away or she may of turnt me on 😅 and then she looked behind and smiled and smirking at me.

SMH So you're not done lol

At least learn to play the game then.

Take notes of you sticking to your ground and not giving in as being what works and what turns her on.

All it boils down to is you not acting out of desperation and being needy and she starts acting normal, like a typical female.

Hopefully you can be comfortable doing more of this.

So today since this morning she has been in a terrible mood and said she doesn't know why she's just having one of them days, anyway we decided to meet up after work with our children.

When I got to her house she was ready to go on a walk together like we agreed yet she wouldn't greet me properly so I went up to her smiled and gave her a kiss.

She was still in this terrible mood she said I tried to ring you but you missed the call and I did as I was driving to hers.

I said sorry I was driving to yours she said I was going to say i picked up my little girl from nursery/playschool and the worker came out and said your daughter has been saying she doesn't want to play with one of the kids and saying she doesn't want to be her friends etc as kids do sometimes.

She said it was embarrassing to hear that and I haven't brought up my children to be like that.

She then said its because our children argue between eachother and that is where she's getting it from and I said yeah they do from time to time but that is kids she could be picking it up anywhere.

She was in a right mood so I said come on let's go back I can tell you don't want to go on this walk etc.

So we did and I went home and she stayed at hers in a piss didn't even say goodbye to me properly.

I got home and I rang her and I said I understand how you must of felt hearing that and I am not interested in an argument with you.

I suggest that we keep the girls apart for now until they appreciate seeing eachother and letting eachother play together and be nice to eachother.

She said thank you for supporting me yet still didn't want to talk.

So i left it an hour and text her saying Look it's about dealing with the problem together and coming up with a solution, not fighting eachother.

I understand you have woken up in a shit mood and your feeling the way you are today we all have day's like that I get it best thing to do is go have a bath and some time alone once the kids are in bed and relax I get it listen I love you it's okay and I'm here when you want to talk xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

So I left it until tonight as didn't hear anything from her yet she was on facebook and I spoke to her on the phone I tried to be calm and talk to her yet she said I don't want to talk over the phone can we text as I don't want my oldest to hear and I said I havent really spoken to you though and it would be good to.

She said to me I am going to cut you off and I said I don't want to argue just talk and she cut me off. I text her saying wow thanks for that and she text saying you wouldn't listen so I cut you off and then I text to say what so it's okay to treat me like that isit ? . She said I just want to focus on my girls. So I put back Okay. And that has been the end of it at the moment.
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So the little girl is establishing her own boundaries of not liking someone at daycare and your girlfriend blames you and your kids?

And you called and said sorry and agreed to keep your children away from hers.

So you're gonna go over there without your kids, but hang around her and hers?

Is this what you've typed out? Kids will be kids and they need to learn problem solving techniques just like adults.

"She didn't greet you properly or say goodbye to you properly?" lol -Yet you could clearly see she was in a mood- It's not about you right now, she was clearly distracted with her kid. If the situation was the other way around, would you remember niceties or be distracted? Parents usually put their children first.

The whole seeing her on Facebook but not talking to you is needy. She said she was in a bad mood. She said she can text, gave you the reason as to why it was more convenient, but that wasn't good enough.

You should've just said,

"I'd rather hear your voice, so call me when you're free"- NOT NEEDY

"I haven't really spoken to you though, and it would be good to"- NEEDY AND DISREGARDING WHAT'S GOING ON WITH HER.

Can you see the difference in wording?

You guys take fake breaks every 5 minutes (I'm exaggerating if you can't tell) when neither of you get your way and when both of you are being demanding of the other person time.

Neither of you seem to realize that the other person doesn't HAVE to do anything. It's about them wanting to do it.

When she offers the olive branch, take it if you want to chat or offer another alternative for a later date. It's pretty simple. Things don't have to be so "My way or the highway, if not I will try to guilt trip you"

I'm sure she knows what you're doing, which is why she "broke up" with you again, because that's what bugs you.

You guys like staying in this childs game of tit for tat.

It will be more of a relationship when you can compromise and please each other instead of being so selfish.

You two need to do the same exercises that your children are doing, in order to learn to get along better.
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Just to update you I have just got back from hers she asked me round for tea and I said ok.

We was led in bed and she was cuddling into me and then I looked at the time and said I better go as I'm getting tired and I know you are as well.

Then when I got up from the bed she said to me you can stay you know.

I replied no I can't and I said are you going to see me out and she said yes of course.

Walked down stairs and would not let go of me and then I was driving home and nearly back at my place and she text saying (thank you for a good night together and I miss you already so this, going back to basics seems to be working) what she doesn't understand is that it's actually doing the opposite for me to be honest it's making me pull more away from her.

Earlier on in the night she was led on her bed on her phone and I was stood in the door way she was pushing her ass up and down on the bed trying to make out she wanted sex trying to turn me on not going to lie I had to look away or she may of turnt me on 😅 and then she looked behind and smiled and smirking at me.

SMH So you're not done lol

At least learn to play the game then.

Take notes of you sticking to your ground and not giving in as being what works and what turns her on.

All it boils down to is you not acting out of desperation and being needy and she starts acting normal, like a typical female.

Hopefully you can be comfortable doing more of this.

So today since this morning she has been in a terrible mood and said she doesn't know why she's just having one of them days, anyway we decided to meet up after work with our children.

When I got to her house she was ready to go on a walk together like we agreed yet she wouldn't greet me properly so I went up to her smiled and gave her a kiss.

She was still in this terrible mood she said I tried to ring you but you missed the call and I did as I was driving to hers.

I said sorry I was driving to yours she said I was going to say i picked up my little girl from nursery/playschool and the worker came out and said your daughter has been saying she doesn't want to play with one of the kids and saying she doesn't want to be her friends etc as kids do sometimes.

She said it was embarrassing to hear that and I haven't brought up my children to be like that.

She then said its because our children argue between eachother and that is where she's getting it from and I said yeah they do from time to time but that is kids she could be picking it up anywhere.

She was in a right mood so I said come on let's go back I can tell you don't want to go on this walk etc.

So we did and I went home and she stayed at hers in a piss didn't even say goodbye to me properly.

I got home and I rang her and I said I understand how you must of felt hearing that and I am not interested in an argument with you.

I suggest that we keep the girls apart for now until they appreciate seeing eachother and letting eachother play together and be nice to eachother.

She said thank you for supporting me yet still didn't want to talk.

So i left it an hour and text her saying Look it's about dealing with the problem together and coming up with a solution, not fighting eachother.

I understand you have woken up in a shit mood and your feeling the way you are today we all have day's like that I get it best thing to do is go have a bath and some time alone once the kids are in bed and relax I get it listen I love you it's okay and I'm here when you want to talk xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

So I left it until tonight as didn't hear anything from her yet she was on facebook and I spoke to her on the phone I tried to be calm and talk to her yet she said I don't want to talk over the phone can we text as I don't want my oldest to hear and I said I havent really spoken to you though and it would be good to.

She said to me I am going to cut you off and I said I don't want to argue just talk and she cut me off. I text her saying wow thanks for that and she text saying you wouldn't listen so I cut you off and then I text to say what so it's okay to treat me like that isit ? . She said I just want to focus on my girls. So I put back Okay. And that has been the end of it at the moment.

So the little girl is establishing her own boundaries of not liking someone at daycare and your girlfriend blames you and your kids?

And you called and said sorry and agreed to keep your children away from hers.

So you're gonna go over there without your kids, but hang around her and hers?

Is this what you've typed out? Kids will be kids and they need to learn problem solving techniques just like adults.

"She didn't greet you properly or say goodbye to you properly?" lol -Yet you could clearly see she was in a mood- It's not about you right now, she was clearly distracted with her kid. If the situation was the other way around, would you remember niceties or be distracted? Parents usually put their children first.

The whole seeing her on Facebook but not talking to you is needy. She said she was in a bad mood. She said she can text, gave you the reason as to why it was more convenient, but that wasn't good enough.

You should've just said,

"I'd rather hear your voice, so call me when you're free"- NOT NEEDY

"I haven't really spoken to you though, and it would be good to"- NEEDY AND DISREGARDING WHAT'S GOING ON WITH HER.

Can you see the difference in wording?

You guys take fake breaks every 5 minutes (I'm exaggerating if you can't tell) when neither of you get your way and when both of you are being demanding of the other person time.

Neither of you seem to realize that the other person doesn't HAVE to do anything. It's about them wanting to do it.

When she offers the olive branch, take it if you want to chat or offer another alternative for a later date. It's pretty simple. Things don't have to be so "My way or the highway, if not I will try to guilt trip you"

I'm sure she knows what you're doing, which is why she "broke up" with you again, because that's what bugs you.

You guys like staying in this childs game of tit for tat.

It will be more of a relationship when you can compromise and please each other instead of being so selfish.

You two need to do the same exercises that your children are doing, in order to learn to get along better.
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I hate this there is nothing I like about it being like this I am not trying to guilt trip her or have it my way this is why I text her saying I understand that it must be hard to hear about her daughter and also came up with an alternative to help for now it isn't my fault that she can't get her head out her ass she was in a right piss I feel like I am banging my head against the wall she wanted to take it slow between us where we don't stay together on the nights at the moment and we have been yet she's need in this mood all day and pretty much puts the blame on my kids not just that I know it's not just about me but there is no need to treat me in that way if I done that to her she'd be proper pissed off to the max.
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Just to update you I have just got back from hers she asked me round for tea and I said ok.

We was led in bed and she was cuddling into me and then I looked at the time and said I better go as I'm getting tired and I know you are as well.

Then when I got up from the bed she said to me you can stay you know.

I replied no I can't and I said are you going to see me out and she said yes of course.

Walked down stairs and would not let go of me and then I was driving home and nearly back at my place and she text saying (thank you for a good night together and I miss you already so this, going back to basics seems to be working) what she doesn't understand is that it's actually doing the opposite for me to be honest it's making me pull more away from her.

Earlier on in the night she was led on her bed on her phone and I was stood in the door way she was pushing her ass up and down on the bed trying to make out she wanted sex trying to turn me on not going to lie I had to look away or she may of turnt me on 😅 and then she looked behind and smiled and smirking at me.

SMH So you're not done lol

At least learn to play the game then.

Take notes of you sticking to your ground and not giving in as being what works and what turns her on.

All it boils down to is you not acting out of desperation and being needy and she starts acting normal, like a typical female.

Hopefully you can be comfortable doing more of this.

So today since this morning she has been in a terrible mood and said she doesn't know why she's just having one of them days, anyway we decided to meet up after work with our children.

When I got to her house she was ready to go on a walk together like we agreed yet she wouldn't greet me properly so I went up to her smiled and gave her a kiss.

She was still in this terrible mood she said I tried to ring you but you missed the call and I did as I was driving to hers.

I said sorry I was driving to yours she said I was going to say i picked up my little girl from nursery/playschool and the worker came out and said your daughter has been saying she doesn't want to play with one of the kids and saying she doesn't want to be her friends etc as kids do sometimes.

She said it was embarrassing to hear that and I haven't brought up my children to be like that.

She then said its because our children argue between eachother and that is where she's getting it from and I said yeah they do from time to time but that is kids she could be picking it up anywhere.

She was in a right mood so I said come on let's go back I can tell you don't want to go on this walk etc.

So we did and I went home and she stayed at hers in a piss didn't even say goodbye to me properly.

I got home and I rang her and I said I understand how you must of felt hearing that and I am not interested in an argument with you.

I suggest that we keep the girls apart for now until they appreciate seeing eachother and letting eachother play together and be nice to eachother.

She said thank you for supporting me yet still didn't want to talk.

So i left it an hour and text her saying Look it's about dealing with the problem together and coming up with a solution, not fighting eachother.

I understand you have woken up in a shit mood and your feeling the way you are today we all have day's like that I get it best thing to do is go have a bath and some time alone once the kids are in bed and relax I get it listen I love you it's okay and I'm here when you want to talk xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

So I left it until tonight as didn't hear anything from her yet she was on facebook and I spoke to her on the phone I tried to be calm and talk to her yet she said I don't want to talk over the phone can we text as I don't want my oldest to hear and I said I havent really spoken to you though and it would be good to.

She said to me I am going to cut you off and I said I don't want to argue just talk and she cut me off. I text her saying wow thanks for that and she text saying you wouldn't listen so I cut you off and then I text to say what so it's okay to treat me like that isit ? . She said I just want to focus on my girls. So I put back Okay. And that has been the end of it at the moment.

So the little girl is establishing her own boundaries of not liking someone at daycare and your girlfriend blames you and your kids?

And you called and said sorry and agreed to keep your children away from hers.

So you're gonna go over there without your kids, but hang around her and hers?

Is this what you've typed out? Kids will be kids and they need to learn problem solving techniques just like adults.

"She didn't greet you properly or say goodbye to you properly?" lol -Yet you could clearly see she was in a mood- It's not about you right now, she was clearly distracted with her kid. If the situation was the other way around, would you remember niceties or be distracted? Parents usually put their children first.

The whole seeing her on Facebook but not talking to you is needy. She said she was in a bad mood. She said she can text, gave you the reason as to why it was more convenient, but that wasn't good enough.

You should've just said,

"I'd rather hear your voice, so call me when you're free"- NOT NEEDY

"I haven't really spoken to you though, and it would be good to"- NEEDY AND DISREGARDING WHAT'S GOING ON WITH HER.

Can you see the difference in wording?

You guys take fake breaks every 5 minutes (I'm exaggerating if you can't tell) when neither of you get your way and when both of you are being demanding of the other person time.

Neither of you seem to realize that the other person doesn't HAVE to do anything. It's about them wanting to do it.

When she offers the olive branch, take it if you want to chat or offer another alternative for a later date. It's pretty simple. Things don't have to be so "My way or the highway, if not I will try to guilt trip you"

I'm sure she knows what you're doing, which is why she "broke up" with you again, because that's what bugs you.

You guys like staying in this childs game of tit for tat.

It will be more of a relationship when you can compromise and please each other instead of being so selfish.

You two need to do the same exercises that your children are doing, in order to learn to get along better.
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Also, I have been calm and listened to how she has been unhappy lately yet she is really making it hard yes I could word things better but all I really want is to get rid of this mess once and for all and sort it out its really draining.
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Just to update you I have just got back from hers she asked me round for tea and I said ok.

We was led in bed and she was cuddling into me and then I looked at the time and said I better go as I'm getting tired and I know you are as well.

Then when I got up from the bed she said to me you can stay you know.

I replied no I can't and I said are you going to see me out and she said yes of course.

Walked down stairs and would not let go of me and then I was driving home and nearly back at my place and she text saying (thank you for a good night together and I miss you already so this, going back to basics seems to be working) what she doesn't understand is that it's actually doing the opposite for me to be honest it's making me pull more away from her.

Earlier on in the night she was led on her bed on her phone and I was stood in the door way she was pushing her ass up and down on the bed trying to make out she wanted sex trying to turn me on not going to lie I had to look away or she may of turnt me on 😅 and then she looked behind and smiled and smirking at me.

SMH So you're not done lol

At least learn to play the game then.

Take notes of you sticking to your ground and not giving in as being what works and what turns her on.

All it boils down to is you not acting out of desperation and being needy and she starts acting normal, like a typical female.

Hopefully you can be comfortable doing more of this.

So today since this morning she has been in a terrible mood and said she doesn't know why she's just having one of them days, anyway we decided to meet up after work with our children.

When I got to her house she was ready to go on a walk together like we agreed yet she wouldn't greet me properly so I went up to her smiled and gave her a kiss.

She was still in this terrible mood she said I tried to ring you but you missed the call and I did as I was driving to hers.

I said sorry I was driving to yours she said I was going to say i picked up my little girl from nursery/playschool and the worker came out and said your daughter has been saying she doesn't want to play with one of the kids and saying she doesn't want to be her friends etc as kids do sometimes.

She said it was embarrassing to hear that and I haven't brought up my children to be like that.

She then said its because our children argue between eachother and that is where she's getting it from and I said yeah they do from time to time but that is kids she could be picking it up anywhere.

She was in a right mood so I said come on let's go back I can tell you don't want to go on this walk etc.

So we did and I went home and she stayed at hers in a piss didn't even say goodbye to me properly.

I got home and I rang her and I said I understand how you must of felt hearing that and I am not interested in an argument with you.

I suggest that we keep the girls apart for now until they appreciate seeing eachother and letting eachother play together and be nice to eachother.

She said thank you for supporting me yet still didn't want to talk.

So i left it an hour and text her saying Look it's about dealing with the problem together and coming up with a solution, not fighting eachother.

I understand you have woken up in a shit mood and your feeling the way you are today we all have day's like that I get it best thing to do is go have a bath and some time alone once the kids are in bed and relax I get it listen I love you it's okay and I'm here when you want to talk xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

So I left it until tonight as didn't hear anything from her yet she was on facebook and I spoke to her on the phone I tried to be calm and talk to her yet she said I don't want to talk over the phone can we text as I don't want my oldest to hear and I said I havent really spoken to you though and it would be good to.

She said to me I am going to cut you off and I said I don't want to argue just talk and she cut me off. I text her saying wow thanks for that and she text saying you wouldn't listen so I cut you off and then I text to say what so it's okay to treat me like that isit ? . She said I just want to focus on my girls. So I put back Okay. And that has been the end of it at the moment.

So the little girl is establishing her own boundaries of not liking someone at daycare and your girlfriend blames you and your kids?

And you called and said sorry and agreed to keep your children away from hers.

So you're gonna go over there without your kids, but hang around her and hers?

Is this what you've typed out? Kids will be kids and they need to learn problem solving techniques just like adults.

"She didn't greet you properly or say goodbye to you properly?" lol -Yet you could clearly see she was in a mood- It's not about you right now, she was clearly distracted with her kid. If the situation was the other way around, would you remember niceties or be distracted? Parents usually put their children first.

The whole seeing her on Facebook but not talking to you is needy. She said she was in a bad mood. She said she can text, gave you the reason as to why it was more convenient, but that wasn't good enough.

You should've just said,

"I'd rather hear your voice, so call me when you're free"- NOT NEEDY

"I haven't really spoken to you though, and it would be good to"- NEEDY AND DISREGARDING WHAT'S GOING ON WITH HER.

Can you see the difference in wording?

You guys take fake breaks every 5 minutes (I'm exaggerating if you can't tell) when neither of you get your way and when both of you are being demanding of the other person time.

Neither of you seem to realize that the other person doesn't HAVE to do anything. It's about them wanting to do it.

When she offers the olive branch, take it if you want to chat or offer another alternative for a later date. It's pretty simple. Things don't have to be so "My way or the highway, if not I will try to guilt trip you"

I'm sure she knows what you're doing, which is why she "broke up" with you again, because that's what bugs you.

You guys like staying in this childs game of tit for tat.

It will be more of a relationship when you can compromise and please each other instead of being so selfish.

You two need to do the same exercises that your children are doing, in order to learn to get along better.

I hate this there is nothing I like about it being like this I am not trying to guilt trip her or have it my way this is why I text her saying I understand that it must be hard to hear about her daughter and also came up with an alternative to help for now it isn't my fault that she can't get her head out her ass she was in a right piss I feel like I am banging my head against the wall she wanted to take it slow between us where we don't stay together on the nights at the moment and we have been yet she's need in this mood all day and pretty much puts the blame on my kids not just that I know it's not just about me but there is no need to treat me in that way if I done that to her she'd be proper pissed off to the max.
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I'm not sure what she's talking about. You two have been doing this for 2 years right? What's "taking it slow"?

The spending the night thing seems more about her creating space and boundaries because you have none and invade hers. So she's treating you like a child.

If she's in a pissy mood, let her be. It's not your job to fix. Let her come to you if she needs you. Instead of you offering so many solutions to things that aren't in your control anyways.

What happened at the childs school being blamed on your kids is crazy. You should've said you didn't think it had anything to do with it and kept it short about kids being kids and it's part of the getting along and problem solving.

You have older kids. You've been a parent long enough to know kids work out problems and forget about them way easier than adults ever could.
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Just to update you I have just got back from hers she asked me round for tea and I said ok.

We was led in bed and she was cuddling into me and then I looked at the time and said I better go as I'm getting tired and I know you are as well.

Then when I got up from the bed she said to me you can stay you know.

I replied no I can't and I said are you going to see me out and she said yes of course.

Walked down stairs and would not let go of me and then I was driving home and nearly back at my place and she text saying (thank you for a good night together and I miss you already so this, going back to basics seems to be working) what she doesn't understand is that it's actually doing the opposite for me to be honest it's making me pull more away from her.

Earlier on in the night she was led on her bed on her phone and I was stood in the door way she was pushing her ass up and down on the bed trying to make out she wanted sex trying to turn me on not going to lie I had to look away or she may of turnt me on 😅 and then she looked behind and smiled and smirking at me.

SMH So you're not done lol

At least learn to play the game then.

Take notes of you sticking to your ground and not giving in as being what works and what turns her on.

All it boils down to is you not acting out of desperation and being needy and she starts acting normal, like a typical female.

Hopefully you can be comfortable doing more of this.

So today since this morning she has been in a terrible mood and said she doesn't know why she's just having one of them days, anyway we decided to meet up after work with our children.

When I got to her house she was ready to go on a walk together like we agreed yet she wouldn't greet me properly so I went up to her smiled and gave her a kiss.

She was still in this terrible mood she said I tried to ring you but you missed the call and I did as I was driving to hers.

I said sorry I was driving to yours she said I was going to say i picked up my little girl from nursery/playschool and the worker came out and said your daughter has been saying she doesn't want to play with one of the kids and saying she doesn't want to be her friends etc as kids do sometimes.

She said it was embarrassing to hear that and I haven't brought up my children to be like that.

She then said its because our children argue between eachother and that is where she's getting it from and I said yeah they do from time to time but that is kids she could be picking it up anywhere.

She was in a right mood so I said come on let's go back I can tell you don't want to go on this walk etc.

So we did and I went home and she stayed at hers in a piss didn't even say goodbye to me properly.

I got home and I rang her and I said I understand how you must of felt hearing that and I am not interested in an argument with you.

I suggest that we keep the girls apart for now until they appreciate seeing eachother and letting eachother play together and be nice to eachother.

She said thank you for supporting me yet still didn't want to talk.

So i left it an hour and text her saying Look it's about dealing with the problem together and coming up with a solution, not fighting eachother.

I understand you have woken up in a shit mood and your feeling the way you are today we all have day's like that I get it best thing to do is go have a bath and some time alone once the kids are in bed and relax I get it listen I love you it's okay and I'm here when you want to talk xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

So I left it until tonight as didn't hear anything from her yet she was on facebook and I spoke to her on the phone I tried to be calm and talk to her yet she said I don't want to talk over the phone can we text as I don't want my oldest to hear and I said I havent really spoken to you though and it would be good to.

She said to me I am going to cut you off and I said I don't want to argue just talk and she cut me off. I text her saying wow thanks for that and she text saying you wouldn't listen so I cut you off and then I text to say what so it's okay to treat me like that isit ? . She said I just want to focus on my girls. So I put back Okay. And that has been the end of it at the moment.

So the little girl is establishing her own boundaries of not liking someone at daycare and your girlfriend blames you and your kids?

And you called and said sorry and agreed to keep your children away from hers.

So you're gonna go over there without your kids, but hang around her and hers?

Is this what you've typed out? Kids will be kids and they need to learn problem solving techniques just like adults.

"She didn't greet you properly or say goodbye to you properly?" lol -Yet you could clearly see she was in a mood- It's not about you right now, she was clearly distracted with her kid. If the situation was the other way around, would you remember niceties or be distracted? Parents usually put their children first.

The whole seeing her on Facebook but not talking to you is needy. She said she was in a bad mood. She said she can text, gave you the reason as to why it was more convenient, but that wasn't good enough.

You should've just said,

"I'd rather hear your voice, so call me when you're free"- NOT NEEDY

"I haven't really spoken to you though, and it would be good to"- NEEDY AND DISREGARDING WHAT'S GOING ON WITH HER.

Can you see the difference in wording?

You guys take fake breaks every 5 minutes (I'm exaggerating if you can't tell) when neither of you get your way and when both of you are being demanding of the other person time.

Neither of you seem to realize that the other person doesn't HAVE to do anything. It's about them wanting to do it.

When she offers the olive branch, take it if you want to chat or offer another alternative for a later date. It's pretty simple. Things don't have to be so "My way or the highway, if not I will try to guilt trip you"

I'm sure she knows what you're doing, which is why she "broke up" with you again, because that's what bugs you.

You guys like staying in this childs game of tit for tat.

It will be more of a relationship when you can compromise and please each other instead of being so selfish.

You two need to do the same exercises that your children are doing, in order to learn to get along better.

Also, I have been calm and listened to how she has been unhappy lately yet she is really making it hard yes I could word things better but all I really want is to get rid of this mess once and for all and sort it out its really draining.
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She's gonna endlessly complain lol She knows you're there to wipe her ass if she needs it. You give no resistance to anything at all, which in turns most likely annoys her.

I'm kindof waiting on her request for you to not bring your kids to her place at all and just leave them with their mom when you come around.
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Just to update you I have just got back from hers she asked me round for tea and I said ok.

We was led in bed and she was cuddling into me and then I looked at the time and said I better go as I'm getting tired and I know you are as well.

Then when I got up from the bed she said to me you can stay you know.

I replied no I can't and I said are you going to see me out and she said yes of course.

Walked down stairs and would not let go of me and then I was driving home and nearly back at my place and she text saying (thank you for a good night together and I miss you already so this, going back to basics seems to be working) what she doesn't understand is that it's actually doing the opposite for me to be honest it's making me pull more away from her.

Earlier on in the night she was led on her bed on her phone and I was stood in the door way she was pushing her ass up and down on the bed trying to make out she wanted sex trying to turn me on not going to lie I had to look away or she may of turnt me on 😅 and then she looked behind and smiled and smirking at me.

SMH So you're not done lol

At least learn to play the game then.

Take notes of you sticking to your ground and not giving in as being what works and what turns her on.

All it boils down to is you not acting out of desperation and being needy and she starts acting normal, like a typical female.

Hopefully you can be comfortable doing more of this.

So today since this morning she has been in a terrible mood and said she doesn't know why she's just having one of them days, anyway we decided to meet up after work with our children.

When I got to her house she was ready to go on a walk together like we agreed yet she wouldn't greet me properly so I went up to her smiled and gave her a kiss.

She was still in this terrible mood she said I tried to ring you but you missed the call and I did as I was driving to hers.

I said sorry I was driving to yours she said I was going to say i picked up my little girl from nursery/playschool and the worker came out and said your daughter has been saying she doesn't want to play with one of the kids and saying she doesn't want to be her friends etc as kids do sometimes.

She said it was embarrassing to hear that and I haven't brought up my children to be like that.

She then said its because our children argue between eachother and that is where she's getting it from and I said yeah they do from time to time but that is kids she could be picking it up anywhere.

She was in a right mood so I said come on let's go back I can tell you don't want to go on this walk etc.

So we did and I went home and she stayed at hers in a piss didn't even say goodbye to me properly.

I got home and I rang her and I said I understand how you must of felt hearing that and I am not interested in an argument with you.

I suggest that we keep the girls apart for now until they appreciate seeing eachother and letting eachother play together and be nice to eachother.

She said thank you for supporting me yet still didn't want to talk.

So i left it an hour and text her saying Look it's about dealing with the problem together and coming up with a solution, not fighting eachother.

I understand you have woken up in a shit mood and your feeling the way you are today we all have day's like that I get it best thing to do is go have a bath and some time alone once the kids are in bed and relax I get it listen I love you it's okay and I'm here when you want to talk xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

So I left it until tonight as didn't hear anything from her yet she was on facebook and I spoke to her on the phone I tried to be calm and talk to her yet she said I don't want to talk over the phone can we text as I don't want my oldest to hear and I said I havent really spoken to you though and it would be good to.

She said to me I am going to cut you off and I said I don't want to argue just talk and she cut me off. I text her saying wow thanks for that and she text saying you wouldn't listen so I cut you off and then I text to say what so it's okay to treat me like that isit ? . She said I just want to focus on my girls. So I put back Okay. And that has been the end of it at the moment.

So the little girl is establishing her own boundaries of not liking someone at daycare and your girlfriend blames you and your kids?

And you called and said sorry and agreed to keep your children away from hers.

So you're gonna go over there without your kids, but hang around her and hers?

Is this what you've typed out? Kids will be kids and they need to learn problem solving techniques just like adults.

"She didn't greet you properly or say goodbye to you properly?" lol -Yet you could clearly see she was in a mood- It's not about you right now, she was clearly distracted with her kid. If the situation was the other way around, would you remember niceties or be distracted? Parents usually put their children first.

The whole seeing her on Facebook but not talking to you is needy. She said she was in a bad mood. She said she can text, gave you the reason as to why it was more convenient, but that wasn't good enough.

You should've just said,

"I'd rather hear your voice, so call me when you're free"- NOT NEEDY

"I haven't really spoken to you though, and it would be good to"- NEEDY AND DISREGARDING WHAT'S GOING ON WITH HER.

Can you see the difference in wording?

You guys take fake breaks every 5 minutes (I'm exaggerating if you can't tell) when neither of you get your way and when both of you are being demanding of the other person time.

Neither of you seem to realize that the other person doesn't HAVE to do anything. It's about them wanting to do it.

When she offers the olive branch, take it if you want to chat or offer another alternative for a later date. It's pretty simple. Things don't have to be so "My way or the highway, if not I will try to guilt trip you"

I'm sure she knows what you're doing, which is why she "broke up" with you again, because that's what bugs you.

You guys like staying in this childs game of tit for tat.

It will be more of a relationship when you can compromise and please each other instead of being so selfish.

You two need to do the same exercises that your children are doing, in order to learn to get along better.

I hate this there is nothing I like about it being like this I am not trying to guilt trip her or have it my way this is why I text her saying I understand that it must be hard to hear about her daughter and also came up with an alternative to help for now it isn't my fault that she can't get her head out her ass she was in a right piss I feel like I am banging my head against the wall she wanted to take it slow between us where we don't stay together on the nights at the moment and we have been yet she's need in this mood all day and pretty much puts the blame on my kids not just that I know it's not just about me but there is no need to treat me in that way if I done that to her she'd be proper pissed off to the max.

I'm not sure what she's talking about. You two have been doing this for 2 years right? What's "taking it slow"?

The spending the night thing seems more about her creating space and boundaries because you have none and invade hers. So she's treating you like a child.

If she's in a pissy mood, let her be. It's not your job to fix. Let her come to you if she needs you. Instead of you offering so many solutions to things that aren't in your control anyways.

What happened at the childs school being blamed on your kids is crazy. You should've said you didn't think it had anything to do with it and kept it short about kids being kids and it's part of the getting along and problem solving.

You have older kids. You've been a parent long enough to know kids work out problems and forget about them way easier than adults ever could.
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Yes I do know this about kids however her response to me saying its just kids etc is no its not just kids blah blah its come from all the kids arguing etc she's copying them .
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Just to update you I have just got back from hers she asked me round for tea and I said ok.

We was led in bed and she was cuddling into me and then I looked at the time and said I better go as I'm getting tired and I know you are as well.

Then when I got up from the bed she said to me you can stay you know.

I replied no I can't and I said are you going to see me out and she said yes of course.

Walked down stairs and would not let go of me and then I was driving home and nearly back at my place and she text saying (thank you for a good night together and I miss you already so this, going back to basics seems to be working) what she doesn't understand is that it's actually doing the opposite for me to be honest it's making me pull more away from her.

Earlier on in the night she was led on her bed on her phone and I was stood in the door way she was pushing her ass up and down on the bed trying to make out she wanted sex trying to turn me on not going to lie I had to look away or she may of turnt me on 😅 and then she looked behind and smiled and smirking at me.

SMH So you're not done lol

At least learn to play the game then.

Take notes of you sticking to your ground and not giving in as being what works and what turns her on.

All it boils down to is you not acting out of desperation and being needy and she starts acting normal, like a typical female.

Hopefully you can be comfortable doing more of this.

So today since this morning she has been in a terrible mood and said she doesn't know why she's just having one of them days, anyway we decided to meet up after work with our children.

When I got to her house she was ready to go on a walk together like we agreed yet she wouldn't greet me properly so I went up to her smiled and gave her a kiss.

She was still in this terrible mood she said I tried to ring you but you missed the call and I did as I was driving to hers.

I said sorry I was driving to yours she said I was going to say i picked up my little girl from nursery/playschool and the worker came out and said your daughter has been saying she doesn't want to play with one of the kids and saying she doesn't want to be her friends etc as kids do sometimes.

She said it was embarrassing to hear that and I haven't brought up my children to be like that.

She then said its because our children argue between eachother and that is where she's getting it from and I said yeah they do from time to time but that is kids she could be picking it up anywhere.

She was in a right mood so I said come on let's go back I can tell you don't want to go on this walk etc.

So we did and I went home and she stayed at hers in a piss didn't even say goodbye to me properly.

I got home and I rang her and I said I understand how you must of felt hearing that and I am not interested in an argument with you.

I suggest that we keep the girls apart for now until they appreciate seeing eachother and letting eachother play together and be nice to eachother.

She said thank you for supporting me yet still didn't want to talk.

So i left it an hour and text her saying Look it's about dealing with the problem together and coming up with a solution, not fighting eachother.

I understand you have woken up in a shit mood and your feeling the way you are today we all have day's like that I get it best thing to do is go have a bath and some time alone once the kids are in bed and relax I get it listen I love you it's okay and I'm here when you want to talk xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

So I left it until tonight as didn't hear anything from her yet she was on facebook and I spoke to her on the phone I tried to be calm and talk to her yet she said I don't want to talk over the phone can we text as I don't want my oldest to hear and I said I havent really spoken to you though and it would be good to.

She said to me I am going to cut you off and I said I don't want to argue just talk and she cut me off. I text her saying wow thanks for that and she text saying you wouldn't listen so I cut you off and then I text to say what so it's okay to treat me like that isit ? . She said I just want to focus on my girls. So I put back Okay. And that has been the end of it at the moment.

So the little girl is establishing her own boundaries of not liking someone at daycare and your girlfriend blames you and your kids?

And you called and said sorry and agreed to keep your children away from hers.

So you're gonna go over there without your kids, but hang around her and hers?

Is this what you've typed out? Kids will be kids and they need to learn problem solving techniques just like adults.

"She didn't greet you properly or say goodbye to you properly?" lol -Yet you could clearly see she was in a mood- It's not about you right now, she was clearly distracted with her kid. If the situation was the other way around, would you remember niceties or be distracted? Parents usually put their children first.

The whole seeing her on Facebook but not talking to you is needy. She said she was in a bad mood. She said she can text, gave you the reason as to why it was more convenient, but that wasn't good enough.

You should've just said,

"I'd rather hear your voice, so call me when you're free"- NOT NEEDY

"I haven't really spoken to you though, and it would be good to"- NEEDY AND DISREGARDING WHAT'S GOING ON WITH HER.

Can you see the difference in wording?

You guys take fake breaks every 5 minutes (I'm exaggerating if you can't tell) when neither of you get your way and when both of you are being demanding of the other person time.

Neither of you seem to realize that the other person doesn't HAVE to do anything. It's about them wanting to do it.

When she offers the olive branch, take it if you want to chat or offer another alternative for a later date. It's pretty simple. Things don't have to be so "My way or the highway, if not I will try to guilt trip you"

I'm sure she knows what you're doing, which is why she "broke up" with you again, because that's what bugs you.

You guys like staying in this childs game of tit for tat.

It will be more of a relationship when you can compromise and please each other instead of being so selfish.

You two need to do the same exercises that your children are doing, in order to learn to get along better.

I hate this there is nothing I like about it being like this I am not trying to guilt trip her or have it my way this is why I text her saying I understand that it must be hard to hear about her daughter and also came up with an alternative to help for now it isn't my fault that she can't get her head out her ass she was in a right piss I feel like I am banging my head against the wall she wanted to take it slow between us where we don't stay together on the nights at the moment and we have been yet she's need in this mood all day and pretty much puts the blame on my kids not just that I know it's not just about me but there is no need to treat me in that way if I done that to her she'd be proper pissed off to the max.

I'm not sure what she's talking about. You two have been doing this for 2 years right? What's "taking it slow"?

The spending the night thing seems more about her creating space and boundaries because you have none and invade hers. So she's treating you like a child.

If she's in a pissy mood, let her be. It's not your job to fix. Let her come to you if she needs you. Instead of you offering so many solutions to things that aren't in your control anyways.

What happened at the childs school being blamed on your kids is crazy. You should've said you didn't think it had anything to do with it and kept it short about kids being kids and it's part of the getting along and problem solving.

You have older kids. You've been a parent long enough to know kids work out problems and forget about them way easier than adults ever could.

Yes I do know this about kids however her response to me saying its just kids etc is no its not just kids blah blah its come from all the kids arguing etc she's copying them .
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How many kids does she have?

You have 3 right?

How are the kids arguing and fighting so much when their parents are there? Do you guys discipline your kids or what?