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Posted by Centaur12

So I should just ignor her and fuck off here is a question for you all.

Do you think she wants to be with me or will ever want to.


You know where I stand on this. You don't seem capable of leaving her alone. I'm starting to repeat myself again. She's asking for you to change. You can't change in the way she wants you to. You are not the right fit for each other. I don't know how long this has been going on this way or how long you have been with each other. But if this has been going on for awhile it's not good.

I'm beginning to agree with @LadyNeptune - part of you is hooked on the drama whether you acknowledge it or not. Where I disagree with her is I don't think this chick wants you at all. She wants a different version of you that's never going to appear.
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Posted by Centaur12

So I should just ignor her and fuck off here is a question for you all.

Do you think she wants to be with me or will ever want to.

You know where I stand on this. You don't seem capable of leaving her alone. I'm starting to repeat myself again. She's asking for you to change. You can't change in the way she wants you to. You are not the right fit for each other. I don't know how long this has been going on this way or how long you have been with each other. But if this has been going on for awhile it's not good.

I'm beginning to agree with @LadyNeptune - part of you is hooked on the drama whether you acknowledge it or not. Where I disagree with her is I don't think this chick wants you at all. She wants a different version of you that's never going to appear.
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Say I can take the time to change and I do it for myself do you think I have a better shot with her.
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This is what I had this morning from her ---Sorry i fell asleep.

I said if you cant wait to see if things work out for us so basically if you can start fresh and wait it out to see if we do connect again then i can not help you so move on.

Im trying to start fresh with you cos i want to waitit out to see if we do connect again as i love you.



I replied -- How does that work one minuet your saying you love me yet telling me to move on if I can't wait it doesn't work like that come on you even know that's fucked up why you acting that way you have already checked out of the relationship otherwise you wouldn't say that to someone you really love.

Also you cannot say for us to have a connection that's just an excuse we obviously have a connection otherwise we would be together in the first place stop pissing around with me it ain't fair and you know what your doing.

Her reply --- Im saying if you cant wait for things to build back up for our relationship then go move on. Clearly not worth the wait and effort.

Im not happy in the relationship and have been honest with you hence why i said start from the beginning but all im getting from you is that you want things to happen instant well its not going to happen

My reply -- How do you build something back up that has already been built you say you love me in the same sentence you say move on. It has nothing to do with it being worth it the point is you don't mind either way if I move on or not you are in other words saying to me if you can't do it my way then leave what sort of person who loves someone would say this they would say I dont want to loose you so please don't go let's sort it out not this.

Her reply -- Look is there someone else you want?

My reply--- You already know the answer to that.

Her --- Ok so whays the problem.

You're going on like you have someone else lined up so are persistent.

My reply-- I will repeat - How do you build something back up that has already been built you say you love me in the same sentence you say move on??

It has nothing to do with it being worth it the point is you don't mind either way if I MOVE ON or NOT you are in other words saying to me if you can't do it my way then leave what sort of person who loves someone would say this they would say (I dont want to loose you so please don't go let's sort it out not this.)

Her reply -- Im saying move in cos i cant helo you if you want things to happen instantly.

You clearly can build something cos what we bulit has obviously gone down hill or we wouldnt be in this situation.

My reply --- You can't say to someone I love you yet if you want move on its cool.

Wish you'd stop saying want things to happen instantly what is that suppose to mean?

Look let's behonest with eachother right- if you loved me you wouldn't say move on if you like right?

You would say I dont want you to leave I love you let work at this but your not instead your saying move on if you want its cool.

This is you checking out already 👆

Her --- Ffs... I am saying move on cos i aint happy atm which is why i said start freah. That's me trying to save the relationship. But with yoy wanting me to either choose out the 2 cards well i aint going to do that as you're either wanting it all or to split.

Checking out of the relationship!!!! Is that how you want to phrase our relationship then we are done. We aint a fucking hotel.

My reply --- Have you really read what you have wrote?

( I am saying move on cos I ain't happy atm) in one sentence then the next you are saying you are trying to save the relationship where are you trying to save us ? Because from what I can see here your telling me to Move On if I like) how is this saving us?

Let's get to the route of the problem here why exactly are you unhappy in the first place?

Her --- I am fucking tell you to move on because you are wanting something to happen between us instantly. You are acting like you have someone else lined up so want an answer out of me. Well you know what i want and thats to try at things slowly by starting fresh and not happen instantly so if you cant manage slow then im telling you to move on cos i can not help you to make something happen instantly. What dont you understand ffs.

Look i aint got a problem with waiting out to see if we build up the relationship again because i dont have anyone lined up.

Me --- There we have it so if you did have someone lined up then you wouldn't give it ago ? Is that what your saying to me ?

You are missing the point you cannot start fresh. We have already built it. We have our connection mentally and physically otherwise we wouldn't of been together in the first place would we? It really doesn't make sense and you know it.

You are just playing games I have to call you out on this I ain't playing this with you anymore its unfair and we have children involved.

Her --- If you think im waiting out for someone else to come then you are fucking wrong.

You can not start fresh then why the fuck does couples go to couple therapy to refreah their relationship to try save it.

Seriously i dont know who you are talking to for advice but you really need to not listen.

You know what i was going to forget last night infact all week and try have a good weekend with you but you know what i actually dont want to fucking go now.

Me --- The point here is you are uncertain on your feelings yet you want to play games on me to see how far it will go and how much you can push me until you see a boundary.

You say ( I love you ) yet are okay in losing me (move on) anyone who is certain on someone they love or want would say to them I do not want to loose you I love you we can work at this together but I need time and space because of everything that has gone on between us I think we need to take a step back and look at what we have both been doing wrong in the relationship and correct it so we can have a long loving lasting relationship. Not move on if you like oh but I love you. Can you not see how this is wrong.

That is how you repair a relationship but you both have to want it not just one person.

Answer me this if you want?

Why are you unhappy exactly isit thay you are unhappy or just bored?

What are the reasons be honest.

Her --- I've explained myself more than once. You know whats to be so i aint carrying this on.

You can keepsemding me the same message. Im done explaining myself. Sounds like you're playing games. All couples can rebuild a relationship so thats bullocks to you saying it cant happen.

All we had to do is have a good week and things wouldstarted to rebuild for us but nope not with you

You will see me single for a year next 2 years so on so foul you for not waiting out to save the relationship .

Me --- I have been understanding on my reactions I have held my hands up and said I have done wrong things in the relationship and been clear on my feelings you can't even do this.

Yet I get from you move on without any remorse towards me and then you say you love me and want it to work out. I am calling you out on this and you don't like it because I am setting my own boundaries.

If you really love someone you wouldn't say move on and be fine about it would you— I have nothing more to say. Yes we could have a nice weekend and you know I want that but this can't carry on you have to cut it out.



Her --- Sounds like you have made your mind up then

Me --- I am not the one saying (move on).



I have left it and haven't spoken to her now for a few hours

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Posted by Centaur12

This is what I had this morning from her ---Sorry i fell asleep.

I said if you cant wait to see if things work out for us so basically if you can start fresh and wait it out to see if we do connect again then i can not help you so move on.

Im trying to start fresh with you cos i want to waitit out to see if we do connect again as i love you.



I replied -- How does that work one minuet your saying you love me yet telling me to move on if I can't wait it doesn't work like that come on you even know that's fucked up why you acting that way you have already checked out of the relationship otherwise you wouldn't say that to someone you really love.

Also you cannot say for us to have a connection that's just an excuse we obviously have a connection otherwise we would be together in the first place stop pissing around with me it ain't fair and you know what your doing.

Her reply --- Im saying if you cant wait for things to build back up for our relationship then go move on. Clearly not worth the wait and effort.

Im not happy in the relationship and have been honest with you hence why i said start from the beginning but all im getting from you is that you want things to happen instant well its not going to happen

My reply -- How do you build something back up that has already been built you say you love me in the same sentence you say move on. It has nothing to do with it being worth it the point is you don't mind either way if I move on or not you are in other words saying to me if you can't do it my way then leave what sort of person who loves someone would say this they would say I dont want to loose you so please don't go let's sort it out not this.

Her reply -- Look is there someone else you want?

My reply--- You already know the answer to that.

Her --- Ok so whays the problem.

You're going on like you have someone else lined up so are persistent.

My reply-- I will repeat - How do you build something back up that has already been built you say you love me in the same sentence you say move on??

It has nothing to do with it being worth it the point is you don't mind either way if I MOVE ON or NOT you are in other words saying to me if you can't do it my way then leave what sort of person who loves someone would say this they would say (I dont want to loose you so please don't go let's sort it out not this.)

Her reply -- Im saying move in cos i cant helo you if you want things to happen instantly.

You clearly can build something cos what we bulit has obviously gone down hill or we wouldnt be in this situation.

My reply --- You can't say to someone I love you yet if you want move on its cool.

Wish you'd stop saying want things to happen instantly what is that suppose to mean?

Look let's behonest with eachother right- if you loved me you wouldn't say move on if you like right?

You would say I dont want you to leave I love you let work at this but your not instead your saying move on if you want its cool.

This is you checking out already 👆

Her --- Ffs... I am saying move on cos i aint happy atm which is why i said start freah. That's me trying to save the relationship. But with yoy wanting me to either choose out the 2 cards well i aint going to do that as you're either wanting it all or to split.

Checking out of the relationship!!!! Is that how you want to phrase our relationship then we are done. We aint a fucking hotel.

My reply --- Have you really read what you have wrote?

( I am saying move on cos I ain't happy atm) in one sentence then the next you are saying you are trying to save the relationship where are you trying to save us ? Because from what I can see here your telling me to Move On if I like) how is this saving us?

Let's get to the route of the problem here why exactly are you unhappy in the first place?

Her --- I am fucking tell you to move on because you are wanting something to happen between us instantly. You are acting like you have someone else lined up so want an answer out of me. Well you know what i want and thats to try at things slowly by starting fresh and not happen instantly so if you cant manage slow then im telling you to move on cos i can not help you to make something happen instantly. What dont you understand ffs.

Look i aint got a problem with waiting out to see if we build up the relationship again because i dont have anyone lined up.

Me --- There we have it so if you did have someone lined up then you wouldn't give it ago ? Is that what your saying to me ?

You are missing the point you cannot start fresh. We have already built it. We have our connection mentally and physically otherwise we wouldn't of been together in the first place would we? It really doesn't make sense and you know it.

You are just playing games I have to call you out on this I ain't playing this with you anymore its unfair and we have children involved.

Her --- If you think im waiting out for someone else to come then you are fucking wrong.

You can not start fresh then why the fuck does couples go to couple therapy to refreah their relationship to try save it.

Seriously i dont know who you are talking to for advice but you really need to not listen.

You know what i was going to forget last night infact all week and try have a good weekend with you but you know what i actually dont want to fucking go now.

Me --- The point here is you are uncertain on your feelings yet you want to play games on me to see how far it will go and how much you can push me until you see a boundary.

You say ( I love you ) yet are okay in losing me (move on) anyone who is certain on someone they love or want would say to them I do not want to loose you I love you we can work at this together but I need time and space because of everything that has gone on between us I think we need to take a step back and look at what we have both been doing wrong in the relationship and correct it so we can have a long loving lasting relationship. Not move on if you like oh but I love you. Can you not see how this is wrong.

That is how you repair a relationship but you both have to want it not just one person.

Answer me this if you want?

Why are you unhappy exactly isit thay you are unhappy or just bored?

What are the reasons be honest.

Her --- I've explained myself more than once. You know whats to be so i aint carrying this on.

You can keepsemding me the same message. Im done explaining myself. Sounds like you're playing games. All couples can rebuild a relationship so thats bullocks to you saying it cant happen.

All we had to do is have a good week and things wouldstarted to rebuild for us but nope not with you

You will see me single for a year next 2 years so on so foul you for not waiting out to save the relationship .

Me --- I have been understanding on my reactions I have held my hands up and said I have done wrong things in the relationship and been clear on my feelings you can't even do this.

Yet I get from you move on without any remorse towards me and then you say you love me and want it to work out. I am calling you out on this and you don't like it because I am setting my own boundaries.

If you really love someone you wouldn't say move on and be fine about it would you— I have nothing more to say. Yes we could have a nice weekend and you know I want that but this can't carry on you have to cut it out.



Her --- Sounds like you have made your mind up then

Me --- I am not the one saying (move on).



I have left it and haven't spoken to her now for a few hours

you're an idiot.
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Posted by Centaur12

This is what I had this morning from her ---Sorry i fell asleep.

I said if you cant wait to see if things work out for us so basically if you can start fresh and wait it out to see if we do connect again then i can not help you so move on.

Im trying to start fresh with you cos i want to waitit out to see if we do connect again as i love you.



I replied -- How does that work one minuet your saying you love me yet telling me to move on if I can't wait it doesn't work like that come on you even know that's fucked up why you acting that way you have already checked out of the relationship otherwise you wouldn't say that to someone you really love.

Also you cannot say for us to have a connection that's just an excuse we obviously have a connection otherwise we would be together in the first place stop pissing around with me it ain't fair and you know what your doing.

Her reply --- Im saying if you cant wait for things to build back up for our relationship then go move on. Clearly not worth the wait and effort.

Im not happy in the relationship and have been honest with you hence why i said start from the beginning but all im getting from you is that you want things to happen instant well its not going to happen

My reply -- How do you build something back up that has already been built you say you love me in the same sentence you say move on. It has nothing to do with it being worth it the point is you don't mind either way if I move on or not you are in other words saying to me if you can't do it my way then leave what sort of person who loves someone would say this they would say I dont want to loose you so please don't go let's sort it out not this.

Her reply -- Look is there someone else you want?

My reply--- You already know the answer to that.

Her --- Ok so whays the problem.

You're going on like you have someone else lined up so are persistent.

My reply-- I will repeat - How do you build something back up that has already been built you say you love me in the same sentence you say move on??

It has nothing to do with it being worth it the point is you don't mind either way if I MOVE ON or NOT you are in other words saying to me if you can't do it my way then leave what sort of person who loves someone would say this they would say (I dont want to loose you so please don't go let's sort it out not this.)

Her reply -- Im saying move in cos i cant helo you if you want things to happen instantly.

You clearly can build something cos what we bulit has obviously gone down hill or we wouldnt be in this situation.

My reply --- You can't say to someone I love you yet if you want move on its cool.

Wish you'd stop saying want things to happen instantly what is that suppose to mean?

Look let's behonest with eachother right- if you loved me you wouldn't say move on if you like right?

You would say I dont want you to leave I love you let work at this but your not instead your saying move on if you want its cool.

This is you checking out already 👆

Her --- Ffs... I am saying move on cos i aint happy atm which is why i said start freah. That's me trying to save the relationship. But with yoy wanting me to either choose out the 2 cards well i aint going to do that as you're either wanting it all or to split.

Checking out of the relationship!!!! Is that how you want to phrase our relationship then we are done. We aint a fucking hotel.

My reply --- Have you really read what you have wrote?

( I am saying move on cos I ain't happy atm) in one sentence then the next you are saying you are trying to save the relationship where are you trying to save us ? Because from what I can see here your telling me to Move On if I like) how is this saving us?

Let's get to the route of the problem here why exactly are you unhappy in the first place?

Her --- I am fucking tell you to move on because you are wanting something to happen between us instantly. You are acting like you have someone else lined up so want an answer out of me. Well you know what i want and thats to try at things slowly by starting fresh and not happen instantly so if you cant manage slow then im telling you to move on cos i can not help you to make something happen instantly. What dont you understand ffs.

Look i aint got a problem with waiting out to see if we build up the relationship again because i dont have anyone lined up.

Me --- There we have it so if you did have someone lined up then you wouldn't give it ago ? Is that what your saying to me ?

You are missing the point you cannot start fresh. We have already built it. We have our connection mentally and physically otherwise we wouldn't of been together in the first place would we? It really doesn't make sense and you know it.

You are just playing games I have to call you out on this I ain't playing this with you anymore its unfair and we have children involved.

Her --- If you think im waiting out for someone else to come then you are fucking wrong.

You can not start fresh then why the fuck does couples go to couple therapy to refreah their relationship to try save it.

Seriously i dont know who you are talking to for advice but you really need to not listen.

You know what i was going to forget last night infact all week and try have a good weekend with you but you know what i actually dont want to fucking go now.

Me --- The point here is you are uncertain on your feelings yet you want to play games on me to see how far it will go and how much you can push me until you see a boundary.

You say ( I love you ) yet are okay in losing me (move on) anyone who is certain on someone they love or want would say to them I do not want to loose you I love you we can work at this together but I need time and space because of everything that has gone on between us I think we need to take a step back and look at what we have both been doing wrong in the relationship and correct it so we can have a long loving lasting relationship. Not move on if you like oh but I love you. Can you not see how this is wrong.

That is how you repair a relationship but you both have to want it not just one person.

Answer me this if you want?

Why are you unhappy exactly isit thay you are unhappy or just bored?

What are the reasons be honest.

Her --- I've explained myself more than once. You know whats to be so i aint carrying this on.

You can keepsemding me the same message. Im done explaining myself. Sounds like you're playing games. All couples can rebuild a relationship so thats bullocks to you saying it cant happen.

All we had to do is have a good week and things wouldstarted to rebuild for us but nope not with you

You will see me single for a year next 2 years so on so foul you for not waiting out to save the relationship .

Me --- I have been understanding on my reactions I have held my hands up and said I have done wrong things in the relationship and been clear on my feelings you can't even do this.

Yet I get from you move on without any remorse towards me and then you say you love me and want it to work out. I am calling you out on this and you don't like it because I am setting my own boundaries.

If you really love someone you wouldn't say move on and be fine about it would you— I have nothing more to say. Yes we could have a nice weekend and you know I want that but this can't carry on you have to cut it out.



Her --- Sounds like you have made your mind up then

Me --- I am not the one saying (move on).



I have left it and haven't spoken to her now for a few hours

you're an idiot.
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What do you think I should do jeane I am confused with everything thrown my way.
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Posted by Centaur12
Posted by jeane
Posted by Centaur12

This is what I had this morning from her ---Sorry i fell asleep.

I said if you cant wait to see if things work out for us so basically if you can start fresh and wait it out to see if we do connect again then i can not help you so move on.

Im trying to start fresh with you cos i want to waitit out to see if we do connect again as i love you.



I replied -- How does that work one minuet your saying you love me yet telling me to move on if I can't wait it doesn't work like that come on you even know that's fucked up why you acting that way you have already checked out of the relationship otherwise you wouldn't say that to someone you really love.

Also you cannot say for us to have a connection that's just an excuse we obviously have a connection otherwise we would be together in the first place stop pissing around with me it ain't fair and you know what your doing.

Her reply --- Im saying if you cant wait for things to build back up for our relationship then go move on. Clearly not worth the wait and effort.

Im not happy in the relationship and have been honest with you hence why i said start from the beginning but all im getting from you is that you want things to happen instant well its not going to happen

My reply -- How do you build something back up that has already been built you say you love me in the same sentence you say move on. It has nothing to do with it being worth it the point is you don't mind either way if I move on or not you are in other words saying to me if you can't do it my way then leave what sort of person who loves someone would say this they would say I dont want to loose you so please don't go let's sort it out not this.

Her reply -- Look is there someone else you want?

My reply--- You already know the answer to that.

Her --- Ok so whays the problem.

You're going on like you have someone else lined up so are persistent.

My reply-- I will repeat - How do you build something back up that has already been built you say you love me in the same sentence you say move on??

It has nothing to do with it being worth it the point is you don't mind either way if I MOVE ON or NOT you are in other words saying to me if you can't do it my way then leave what sort of person who loves someone would say this they would say (I dont want to loose you so please don't go let's sort it out not this.)

Her reply -- Im saying move in cos i cant helo you if you want things to happen instantly.

You clearly can build something cos what we bulit has obviously gone down hill or we wouldnt be in this situation.

My reply --- You can't say to someone I love you yet if you want move on its cool.

Wish you'd stop saying want things to happen instantly what is that suppose to mean?

Look let's behonest with eachother right- if you loved me you wouldn't say move on if you like right?

You would say I dont want you to leave I love you let work at this but your not instead your saying move on if you want its cool.

This is you checking out already 👆

Her --- Ffs... I am saying move on cos i aint happy atm which is why i said start freah. That's me trying to save the relationship. But with yoy wanting me to either choose out the 2 cards well i aint going to do that as you're either wanting it all or to split.

Checking out of the relationship!!!! Is that how you want to phrase our relationship then we are done. We aint a fucking hotel.

My reply --- Have you really read what you have wrote?

( I am saying move on cos I ain't happy atm) in one sentence then the next you are saying you are trying to save the relationship where are you trying to save us ? Because from what I can see here your telling me to Move On if I like) how is this saving us?

Let's get to the route of the problem here why exactly are you unhappy in the first place?

Her --- I am fucking tell you to move on because you are wanting something to happen between us instantly. You are acting like you have someone else lined up so want an answer out of me. Well you know what i want and thats to try at things slowly by starting fresh and not happen instantly so if you cant manage slow then im telling you to move on cos i can not help you to make something happen instantly. What dont you understand ffs.

Look i aint got a problem with waiting out to see if we build up the relationship again because i dont have anyone lined up.

Me --- There we have it so if you did have someone lined up then you wouldn't give it ago ? Is that what your saying to me ?

You are missing the point you cannot start fresh. We have already built it. We have our connection mentally and physically otherwise we wouldn't of been together in the first place would we? It really doesn't make sense and you know it.

You are just playing games I have to call you out on this I ain't playing this with you anymore its unfair and we have children involved.

Her --- If you think im waiting out for someone else to come then you are fucking wrong.

You can not start fresh then why the fuck does couples go to couple therapy to refreah their relationship to try save it.

Seriously i dont know who you are talking to for advice but you really need to not listen.

You know what i was going to forget last night infact all week and try have a good weekend with you but you know what i actually dont want to fucking go now.

Me --- The point here is you are uncertain on your feelings yet you want to play games on me to see how far it will go and how much you can push me until you see a boundary.

You say ( I love you ) yet are okay in losing me (move on) anyone who is certain on someone they love or want would say to them I do not want to loose you I love you we can work at this together but I need time and space because of everything that has gone on between us I think we need to take a step back and look at what we have both been doing wrong in the relationship and correct it so we can have a long loving lasting relationship. Not move on if you like oh but I love you. Can you not see how this is wrong.

That is how you repair a relationship but you both have to want it not just one person.

Answer me this if you want?

Why are you unhappy exactly isit thay you are unhappy or just bored?

What are the reasons be honest.

Her --- I've explained myself more than once. You know whats to be so i aint carrying this on.

You can keepsemding me the same message. Im done explaining myself. Sounds like you're playing games. All couples can rebuild a relationship so thats bullocks to you saying it cant happen.

All we had to do is have a good week and things wouldstarted to rebuild for us but nope not with you

You will see me single for a year next 2 years so on so foul you for not waiting out to save the relationship .

Me --- I have been understanding on my reactions I have held my hands up and said I have done wrong things in the relationship and been clear on my feelings you can't even do this.

Yet I get from you move on without any remorse towards me and then you say you love me and want it to work out. I am calling you out on this and you don't like it because I am setting my own boundaries.

If you really love someone you wouldn't say move on and be fine about it would you— I have nothing more to say. Yes we could have a nice weekend and you know I want that but this can't carry on you have to cut it out.



Her --- Sounds like you have made your mind up then

Me --- I am not the one saying (move on).



I have left it and haven't spoken to her now for a few hours

you're an idiot.

What do you think I should do jeane I am confused with everything thrown my way.
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what should you do? listen.

she is telling you she wants to start over with you and make it be like it was in the beginning. fun.

you can't hear this. you're so wrapped up in the drama of it all that you can't just take a breath, step back and learn to find the fun in each other again. she doesn't want heavy emotions. she wants joy. good conversation. laughter. you give her all this shit about her checking out and you wouldn't say that if you loved me.

she is saying she has been/is unhappy. she wants to be happy again. ideally with you but if you insist on putting pressure on her (including imagine with you unending neediness) then you can go on without her. she wants to sort her kids out and make sure they are ok, she wants you there too but not if you are saying she has to feel things according to your timetable. she is telling you she doesn't have the capacity in her nor does she want to. she wants to be the way when you first got together and then rebuild to something healthier, happier than what you have now.

if you can't be happy with her at the pace that she needs at this point then what she is saying is she loves you but you gotta do what you gotta do.

now it's up to you if you want to be happy with her again and make it pretty light hearted or do you want to continue the current road? you might feel like too much has passed for you to do that. ok. you have your answer.
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Posted by Centaur12

I hate this there is nothing I like about it being like this I am not trying to guilt trip her or have it my way this is why I text her saying I understand that it must be hard to hear about her daughter and also came up with an alternative to help for now it isn't my fault that she can't get her head out her ass she was in a right piss I feel like I am banging my head against the wall she wanted to take it slow between us where we don't stay together on the nights at the moment and we have been yet she's need in this mood all day and pretty much puts the blame on my kids not just that I know it's not just about me but there is no need to treat me in that way if I done that to her she'd be proper pissed off to the max.

You entirely missed the point with what Saggurl was referring to when she said you were guilt tripping her. You're both Sags, so I could only imagine how many things get lost in translation when you're speaking with the Gem given you're two opposing signs.

The guilt trip began when she stated she didn't want to talk and you kept pushing that until she hung up on you. Fix moons often push what they want, what they need even in the most seemingly harmless way (in their opinion) and I'm telling you, although it's not the same as the Sun, as a Gem moon it's a huge turn off, so I can only imagine how the Sun/Merc/Venus feel. Sorry, but I would have cut your a** off too. If someone tells you "I don't want to talk" then back off until they settle or the time allows for the conversation to take place. It's not as though she said she didn't want to engage with you anymore, she simple said let's text because her oldest child was in ear shot and she didn't want her to hear. You could have simple accepted that continued over text, or left it and said "Okay, give me a ring when you're up to talking. I hope you feel better soon". It's not as if "you haven't really spoken to her" all day like you stated (e.g. the guilt trip you laid on her). You were just with her a few hours ago, so that could have held until she was up to talking if you really wanted to.

Like I stated, pushing what you want regardless of what others ask for from you until they have no choice but to cut you off. Then you wonder why.

Dated a Fish with an Aqua Moon (equally as needy as you are) and I was done with it after the second time he did that nonsense. It's not an appealing trait and I have no patience for it so we were done. Unlike a Mutable sign, I don't waffle once I've made my mind up to be done with someone, so you have that on your side with this Gem. Don't get me wrong, I still think she has a piss poor way of handling most things, however I am beginning to understand where some of her responses to you (not her overall behaviour) are coming from.
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Posted by Easha23000us

Please go back a couple of threads, and refer back to the advice that we suggested to you. This is becoming repetitive.

The challenge is the advice is being spoon fed to him. Like literally line for line on what he should say and it doesn't appear to fit with his personality or strengths. Therefore, it doesn't resonate for him, so he's back again. It's solid advice given the people involved, so that's not the issue. It simply doesn't fit for who he is----at the present moment.

Not saying you can't learn to communicate and respond differently Centaur12, but you're looking for quick fixes as these problems arise (e.g. "she just asked me to come over for tea, what should I do?"), vs this being a new skill you've developed and truly embrace over time. You should be able to handle something as simple as a date for a hot beverage without asking a bunch of strangers. Not trying to shame you for asking, simply pointing out that you need this support at every turn because you're being asked to do things that don't come naturally to you. This new way of being is not coming from you, so it's not going to stick. It's coming from a bunch of Sags that clearly know how to deal with their fellow Mutable sign a bit better because it reflects their personalities.

That's the challenge with advice sometimes. Trying to find the balance of offering support that works for the person asking for it, which is why I am still keeping mine to a bare minimum as far as this thread goes. I am the complete opposite of you, so I don't really know how to guide this other than to take a few steps back to really ask yourself some hard questions and work on that, or stop complaining and accept that this who you are with her as another Sag suggested.
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Posted by Centaur12

She put back - I have told you what i want to happen so its you forcing me to make a decision based on now.

I put back - so how long is going on for then.

She said - I don't know if you can't wait then move on .

I said I want to know of that is with you or on my own.

And she hasn't replied.

Wtf why are you backpedaling?
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Did even last a few days....
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Posted by Centaur12

So I should just ignor her and fuck off here is a question for you all.

Would you listen even if we all said yes...? I can count on two hands how many people already expressed this^^ very thing, yet you're asking this question 26 pages and how many threads later....

As for this:
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Do you think she wants to be with me or will ever want to.
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I think she want to be with elements of who you are. Your way of going about things simple doesn't fit her way of being. Therefore, you have a few choices:

1) take a step back and begin to make some solid changes for the betterment of yourself, as this will help you in the long run with whomever you end up with, or

2) you find someone that works better for your personality, Crabs seem to work well from what I've read of late, or

3) ride this chaotic wave out until you both "drown" and you rinse repeat this with someone else.
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Posted by Centaur12

Why is she telling me she loves me and when asked the question she says she wants to have a future together. Yet saying move on if I cannot wait.

Because you can't out manipulate a Gemini. She called you on your bluff to walk away from the relationship.

You saying something you didn't really mean (which you do a lot btw) was a form of manipulation. We can call it game playing, playing her at her game, whatever, it was emotional manipulation. Period. She does the same with you. She wants to be with you, but doesn't know how else to get you to back the f*ck up when she asks for space, so she puts you on pause, then hit "play" when she's good to go again when she misses you, which I think is genuine. Some of this is about her, however you have also taught her how to handle you. Hence the start, stop, let's slow down, let's spend the night cuddling, hangs up on you when you want to talk about the kids, let's have tea the next day...

Neither of you know how to get what the other wants from each other emotionally without manipulating each other. This is largely because neither of you seem to know how to truly listen and respect what the other is saying, or give what the other needs. Fix that (and it can be fixed with a lot of hard work) and the ride is more enjoyable vs chaotic.
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Posted by Centaur12

This is what I had this morning from her ---Sorry i fell asleep.

I said if you cant wait to see if things work out for us so basically if you can start fresh and wait it out to see if we do connect again then i can not help you so move on.

Im trying to start fresh with you cos i want to waitit out to see if we do connect again as i love you.



I replied -- How does that work one minuet your saying you love me yet telling me to move on if I can't wait it doesn't work like that come on you even know that's fucked up why you acting that way you have already checked out of the relationship otherwise you wouldn't say that to someone you really love.

Also you cannot say for us to have a connection that's just an excuse we obviously have a connection otherwise we would be together in the first place stop pissing around with me it ain't fair and you know what your doing.

Her reply --- Im saying if you cant wait for things to build back up for our relationship then go move on. Clearly not worth the wait and effort.

Im not happy in the relationship and have been honest with you hence why i said start from the beginning but all im getting from you is that you want things to happen instant well its not going to happen

My reply -- How do you build something back up that has already been built you say you love me in the same sentence you say move on. It has nothing to do with it being worth it the point is you don't mind either way if I move on or not you are in other words saying to me if you can't do it my way then leave what sort of person who loves someone would say this they would say I dont want to loose you so please don't go let's sort it out not this.

Her reply -- Look is there someone else you want?

My reply--- You already know the answer to that.

Her --- Ok so whays the problem.

You're going on like you have someone else lined up so are persistent.

My reply-- I will repeat - How do you build something back up that has already been built you say you love me in the same sentence you say move on??

It has nothing to do with it being worth it the point is you don't mind either way if I MOVE ON or NOT you are in other words saying to me if you can't do it my way then leave what sort of person who loves someone would say this they would say (I dont want to loose you so please don't go let's sort it out not this.)

Her reply -- Im saying move in cos i cant helo you if you want things to happen instantly.

You clearly can build something cos what we bulit has obviously gone down hill or we wouldnt be in this situation.

My reply --- You can't say to someone I love you yet if you want move on its cool.

Wish you'd stop saying want things to happen instantly what is that suppose to mean?

Look let's behonest with eachother right- if you loved me you wouldn't say move on if you like right?

You would say I dont want you to leave I love you let work at this but your not instead your saying move on if you want its cool.

This is you checking out already 👆

Her --- Ffs... I am saying move on cos i aint happy atm which is why i said start freah. That's me trying to save the relationship. But with yoy wanting me to either choose out the 2 cards well i aint going to do that as you're either wanting it all or to split.

Checking out of the relationship!!!! Is that how you want to phrase our relationship then we are done. We aint a fucking hotel.

My reply --- Have you really read what you have wrote?

( I am saying move on cos I ain't happy atm) in one sentence then the next you are saying you are trying to save the relationship where are you trying to save us ? Because from what I can see here your telling me to Move On if I like) how is this saving us?

Let's get to the route of the problem here why exactly are you unhappy in the first place?

Her --- I am fucking tell you to move on because you are wanting something to happen between us instantly. You are acting like you have someone else lined up so want an answer out of me. Well you know what i want and thats to try at things slowly by starting fresh and not happen instantly so if you cant manage slow then im telling you to move on cos i can not help you to make something happen instantly. What dont you understand ffs.

Look i aint got a problem with waiting out to see if we build up the relationship again because i dont have anyone lined up.

Me --- There we have it so if you did have someone lined up then you wouldn't give it ago ? Is that what your saying to me ?

You are missing the point you cannot start fresh. We have already built it. We have our connection mentally and physically otherwise we wouldn't of been together in the first place would we? It really doesn't make sense and you know it.

You are just playing games I have to call you out on this I ain't playing this with you anymore its unfair and we have children involved.

Her --- If you think im waiting out for someone else to come then you are fucking wrong.

You can not start fresh then why the fuck does couples go to couple therapy to refreah their relationship to try save it.

Seriously i dont know who you are talking to for advice but you really need to not listen.

You know what i was going to forget last night infact all week and try have a good weekend with you but you know what i actually dont want to fucking go now.

Me --- The point here is you are uncertain on your feelings yet you want to play games on me to see how far it will go and how much you can push me until you see a boundary.

You say ( I love you ) yet are okay in losing me (move on) anyone who is certain on someone they love or want would say to them I do not want to loose you I love you we can work at this together but I need time and space because of everything that has gone on between us I think we need to take a step back and look at what we have both been doing wrong in the relationship and correct it so we can have a long loving lasting relationship. Not move on if you like oh but I love you. Can you not see how this is wrong.

That is how you repair a relationship but you both have to want it not just one person.

Answer me this if you want?

Why are you unhappy exactly isit thay you are unhappy or just bored?

What are the reasons be honest.

Her --- Sounds like you have made your mind up then

Me --- I am not the one saying (move on).

😆 "we ain't a f*cking hotel." I'm starting to like her....

As for the rest, I was seriously smh at the way you two communicate. It's like you two were having two very different conversations and not listening to each other at all. You clearly have a very fixed way of wanting her to be and couldn't even be open to what she was trying to get across to you. Basically, she was saying "if you push me in a corner to be with you as we are or try to rebuild things, then I'm going to choose rebuild things and you can move on". But you were so stuck on "if you really loved me you would have said it differently...and so the pointless conversation went. She also was getting frustrated with you rather easily over whatever piece fiction she created in her mind as to why you issued the ultimatum. Little did she know it was because you were on DXP and there is no other woman waiting on the side lol.

"Seriously i dont know who you are talking to for advice but you really need to not listen." I died. Lol...She clearly knows none of this (e.g. the way you're acting, what you're saying) is coming from you, not in a genuine way.

You also jump to the most ridiculous conclusions based on whatever is being said vs hearing what is actually being communicated to you (e.g. "There we have it so if you did have someone lined up then you wouldn't give it ago ? Is that what your saying to me ?") Like what? Lawd....

One thing that I find to be clear is the way you present her in this thread vs what you've typed out (if it's verbatim) of your conversation paints a different picture of her. So I am curious as to what else has been filtered through your lense. I'm not saying you've falsified anything, because we all present things the way we understand and interpret it. Thing is, she actually sounds much more reasonable and rational than you made her out to be. She made some very valid points that you weren't hearing at all. I also understand why you got so worked up, however it was literally like watching a dog latch onto a bone that you couldn't let go (e.g. "if you loved me you wouldn't say 'move on' you would say ...... ) and you kept repeating yourself as if that would make a difference. The fact that you simply kept repeating yourself oppose to actually responding to what was being said only highlights that you don't listen to her and you're only focused on what you want to get across to her.

If you take a step back, I'd work on learning to listen to what is being said because it will help you out a great deal. If not with her, with any other romantic relationship in the future.
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Posted by jeane

what should you do? listen.

she is telling you she wants to start over with you and make it be like it was in the beginning. fun.

you can't hear this. you're so wrapped up in the drama of it all that you can't just take a breath, step back and learn to find the fun in each other again. she doesn't want heavy emotions. she wants joy. good conversation. laughter. you give her all this shit about her checking out and you wouldn't say that if you loved me.

she is saying she has been/is unhappy. she wants to be happy again. ideally with you but if you insist on putting pressure on her (including imagine with you unending neediness) then you can go on without her. she wants to sort her kids out and make sure they are ok, she wants you there too but not if you are saying she has to feel things according to your timetable. she is telling you she doesn't have the capacity in her nor does she want to. she wants to be the way when you first got together and then rebuild to something healthier, happier than what you have now.

if you can't be happy with her at the pace that she needs at this point then what she is saying is she loves you but you gotta do what you gotta do.

now it's up to you if you want to be happy with her again and make it pretty light hearted or do you want to continue the current road? you might feel like too much has passed for you to do that. ok. you have your answer.

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If that crazy troll Crab ranting about a Virgo that doesn't want her didn't keep deleting her threads she could win or the longest thread.....

Her threads would easily beat this guy’s thread. I am still cracking up at Saggurl88 posting this gif in it:

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😆 OMG, she is the best for finding outrageous gifs.
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I hate this there is nothing I like about it being like this I am not trying to guilt trip her or have it my way this is why I text her saying I understand that it must be hard to hear about her daughter and also came up with an alternative to help for now it isn't my fault that she can't get her head out her ass she was in a right piss I feel like I am banging my head against the wall she wanted to take it slow between us where we don't stay together on the nights at the moment and we have been yet she's need in this mood all day and pretty much puts the blame on my kids not just that I know it's not just about me but there is no need to treat me in that way if I done that to her she'd be proper pissed off to the max.

You entirely missed the point with what Saggurl was referring to when she said you were guilt tripping her. You're both Sags, so I could only imagine how many things get lost in translation when you're speaking with the Gem given you're two opposing signs.

The guilt trip began when she stated she didn't want to talk and you kept pushing that until she hung up on you. Fix moons often push what they want, what they need even in the most seemingly harmless way (in their opinion) and I'm telling you, although it's not the same as the Sun, as a Gem moon it's a huge turn off, so I can only imagine how the Sun/Merc/Venus feel. Sorry, but I would have cut your a** off too. If someone tells you "I don't want to talk" then back off until they settle or the time allows for the conversation to take place. It's not as though she said she didn't want to engage with you anymore, she simple said let's text because her oldest child was in ear shot and she didn't want her to hear. You could have simple accepted that continued over text, or left it and said "Okay, give me a ring when you're up to talking. I hope you feel better soon". It's not as if "you haven't really spoken to her" all day like you stated (e.g. the guilt trip you laid on her). You were just with her a few hours ago, so that could have held until she was up to talking if you really wanted to.

Like I stated, pushing what you want regardless of what others ask for from you until they have no choice but to cut you off. Then you wonder why.

Dated a Fish with an Aqua Moon (equally as needy as you are) and I was done with it after the second time he did that nonsense. It's not an appealing trait and I have no patience for it so we were done. Unlike a Mutable sign, I don't waffle once I've made my mind up to be done with someone, so you have that on your side with this Gem. Don't get me wrong, I still think she has a piss poor way of handling most things, however I am beginning to understand where some of her responses to you (not her overall behaviour) are coming from.

After reading the dialogue between them, I am thankful that my air moon is in Libra and not Aqua. What a mess, although they seem like they are on different pages entirely, which could be the Sun opposition Sun aspect.
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It definitely plays a role as far as ego is concerned. Overall this is my challenge with Fixed Moons as an Air Moon, with the slight exception of Scorp Moons and that exception is very slight. You may think you're getting somewhere with them, but secretly their plotting their "revenge" while making you think they dropped the issue lol.

Good to always check "So we good now?"

You get a smile/nod and nothing more = revenge.

If they can genuinely say the words "we're square/good" with warmth = will hold onto that until they need to bring it up again 20 years later.
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I owe you a massive apology I really do I feel really embarrassed about the way I have treated you and it is no wonder why you feel like you do at the moment who wouldn't.

I have literally hands down destroyed it.

I am so sorry with all the constant bullshit all the moaning and all the not understanding you or listening I have been disrespectful towards you and I am ashamed of myself.

You do not deserve any of this you deserve alot better than how I have been to you.

I should of listened to you first time I can only thank you so much with all my heart for being so patient with me and now it is my turn to return the favour if you let me I completely love you to peaces I never meant for any of this to happen or for you to feel hurt you mean everything to me and I will change right now for the good this I promise.

I now see everything I have done wrongly and I can correct this.

I want to start fresh with you at your pace not at mine and I also totally respect that you have to also concentrate on the girls as well as everything else.

Sorry doesn't cut it and I understand you want to see actions.

I really hope you can give me this last chance to prove to you that I have changed for us because I can't live without you and I never want to. I'm so sorry please give me this last chance to show to you that I want to start fresh and rebuild us again because I really mean it I will always have your back and support you I can't even put into words how much I am sorry it changes now. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I have told her this and I took her out yesterday and we are going out today also, she isn't really her self at the moment no wonder why because of yesterday and everything I said I am going to be my fun happy self again and sort it all out and I mean it anything she says I will respect.

I will go at her pace when she is ready again to become close etc.
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Posted by geminiflyby

I get it. 🙋


@geminiflyby Think you are right when you said I have to lose her to have her.

So I have took her out over the weekend on Saturday morning after the argument we went out but she said she didn't want to be in the relationship anymore.

On Sunday I took her out she and pm the evening she said let's have a drink I helped her with her garden leveling it all out etc and when we went to bed she said to me I have had a brillaint day with you that is all I know so we was in bed and had sex and it was good but after she said you wasn't completely into that was you and I said no because I want to know how you feel out rebuilding us like you said you wanted and she said I dont know it's not just us it's all the kids there are to many all together I said you knew this at the start etc yet we woke up with morning she gave me a kiss said goodbye and that she loves me and I went to work and she had asked if I can help her pick up some more soil for the garden with her.

Am I now being played because it certainly feels like it I can understand if she wanted to rebuild and we was like this but the fact she is saying I don't know about us and then the next having sex with me and telling me she loves me.

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Posted by sweethearts

🤦🏼‍♀️


We have so far been okay not very close apart from last night when I gave her a massarge and she told me she didn't feel up for anything else and I said thats okay, and she wanted to cuddle and this morning she also, was cuddling.

She said I feel bad I haven't really been in to wanting it with you etc I need to have it more I just have not been in the mood or feeling it I feel bad on you.

I said its cool don't worry things have been up and down.

About 5 mins after we got down to it anyway.

She has said she did not say she didn't want a future with me just that she can't see one clearly at the moment.

She said she wants to take it slow now and for us to rebuild.

I have said okay that is all I wanted to know where we stand.

I am not going to invest to much emotional energy into the relationship but just go with it whatever happens, happens and it is because it was meant to be.

I would of just liked to of known if we could settle down together a little bit of security but that may come in the future.

I guess my biggest worry is being used to do stuff for her and her not giving back what I give.

I have picked up all the soil for her garden and put it intl her garden and leveled it all out now I am picking up a trampoline for her kids this afternoon and I will be dismantling the playhouse / Wendyhouse that is in the garden as that is being sold.

She is offering to pay fuel for me to go pick up the trampoline etc.

I just want 50/50 really and a little comitment is that bad for me to want that.

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You’re just stepping into the mundane day to day life of a relationship with no excitement. You are working, looking out for the kids, cooking doing all the basics and not even living together. The excitement she’s missing IMO was the excitement you shared while you kept your secret rendezvous secret. Now it’s all about family and work. Do you ever just get alone time to hang out. Do you even actually like each other? Do you want to spend time just the two of you? Maybe start there, get a baby sitter and regularly go out together and learn to love each other. Not saying the kids can’t be apart of it but it doesn’t sound like you two have any fun together.
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You’re just stepping into the mundane day to day life of a relationship with no excitement. You are working, looking out for the kids, cooking doing all the basics and not even living together. The excitement she’s missing IMO was the excitement you shared while you kept your secret rendezvous secret. Now it’s all about family and work. Do you ever just get alone time to hang out. Do you even actually like each other? Do you want to spend time just the two of you? Maybe start there, get a baby sitter and regularly go out together and learn to love each other. Not saying the kids can’t be apart of it but it doesn’t sound like you two have any fun together.


We do get every other weekend free together when I don't have my children however, she still has to pick her kids up on the evening of the Saturday and Sunday that I do not see my children.

She says it really annoys her the fact that their dad cannot get his own place at the age of 32 for his children so he can have them over night.

And I totally get it because its things like when we go out and we are having a drink we have to watch what we drink because she had to pick her children up etc on the evening.

We do go out together on those weekends and find things to do however I think we need the excitement back of finding new things to do together and relaxing.

We need to get the babysitter back for maybe in the week as well where she can actually let her hair down.

If you guys have any new ideas on what to do together them please share them I would appreciate it thank you.

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You’re just stepping into the mundane day to day life of a relationship with no excitement. You are working, looking out for the kids, cooking doing all the basics and not even living together. The excitement she’s missing IMO was the excitement you shared while you kept your secret rendezvous secret. Now it’s all about family and work. Do you ever just get alone time to hang out. Do you even actually like each other? Do you want to spend time just the two of you? Maybe start there, get a baby sitter and regularly go out together and learn to love each other. Not saying the kids can’t be apart of it but it doesn’t sound like you two have any fun together.

We do get every other weekend free together when I don't have my children however, she still has to pick her kids up on the evening of the Saturday and Sunday that I do not see my children.

She says it really annoys her the fact that their dad cannot get his own place at the age of 32 for his children so he can have them over night.

And I totally get it because its things like when we go out and we are having a drink we have to watch what we drink because she had to pick her children up etc on the evening.

We do go out together on those weekends and find things to do however I think we need the excitement back of finding new things to do together and relaxing.

We need to get the babysitter back for maybe in the week as well where she can actually let her hair down.

If you guys have any new ideas on what to do together them please share them I would appreciate it thank you.
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Question? Did you break up with you ex Sag to be with this Gemini woman?
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You’re just stepping into the mundane day to day life of a relationship with no excitement. You are working, looking out for the kids, cooking doing all the basics and not even living together. The excitement she’s missing IMO was the excitement you shared while you kept your secret rendezvous secret. Now it’s all about family and work. Do you ever just get alone time to hang out. Do you even actually like each other? Do you want to spend time just the two of you? Maybe start there, get a baby sitter and regularly go out together and learn to love each other. Not saying the kids can’t be apart of it but it doesn’t sound like you two have any fun together.

We do get every other weekend free together when I don't have my children however, she still has to pick her kids up on the evening of the Saturday and Sunday that I do not see my children.

She says it really annoys her the fact that their dad cannot get his own place at the age of 32 for his children so he can have them over night.

And I totally get it because its things like when we go out and we are having a drink we have to watch what we drink because she had to pick her children up etc on the evening.

We do go out together on those weekends and find things to do however I think we need the excitement back of finding new things to do together and relaxing.

We need to get the babysitter back for maybe in the week as well where she can actually let her hair down.

If you guys have any new ideas on what to do together them please share them I would appreciate it thank you.

Question? Did you break up with you ex Sag to be with this Gemini woman?
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Yes we parted ways due to my ex partner being lazy not wanting to work, I would get back from work late evenings and she would constantly tell me to cook my own food and the children's when she has been home all day.

There was alot of things at play.

How come ?
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Hate to break it to you buddy, but this Gemini woman might be your Karma...You have been warned.

What makes you think this 🤔.

You left your childrens mother for this woman.

I don't disagree with Easha, this is how karma works.
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You hit the nail right over the head...There is nothing more to add; you said it all...Spot on!
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For all it's worth, you should have sat your ex Sag down, and communicated your dissatisfaction with her. If that did not work, guide her, as to what you expect. Example, talk and joke with her, while nudging her into the kitchen, pick up a dish, and wash it, all the while laughing ang joking. She would get the hint, and follow suit. Your home would be orderly, and most important, you keep your family together. Next, on your day off, cook for her, meanwhile talking and laughing with her all the while; you see where I am going with this? She then would be doing this all on her own. If I were you, I would make it work with the mother of my children. They deserve much more of your time and energy than this Gemini woman, who is inevitably going to drop you sooner or later... Call up your ex Sag, and ask her out on a date. I bet that would be a hard slap to Miss Gemini's selfish face😉
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Hate to break it to you buddy, but this Gemini woman might be your Karma...You have been warned.

What makes you think this 🤔.

You left your childrens mother for this woman.

I don't disagree with Easha, this is how karma works.
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@blackphvse

I did now I am getting constant games its exsuting why is she acting in this way is she getting kicks out of it I do not understand.

She tells me she wants to rebuild how is that rebuilding.
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In response to your DM:

"it's also about there is alot of kids and said I am struggling with bonding with your kids as I hate there mother"

That right there told me you should leave her. But I've been telling you that all along. Your kids come first, this lady doesn't sound like she even wants to try to form a bond with them and it's not even their fault. She has resentment against their mother and is using that as an excuse to not be close to your kids. That is not fair to your children. Dude I really think you can do better than what she is offering you. Don't you want someone who enjoys spending time with you AND your kids?

Your ex is the one who got played and she isn't acting like this. If anyone has a right to be acting jealous here it's your ex, not the Gemini. And look at how well your ex is handling this situation.. She's the one who got hurt in all this. Sounds to me like you left a strong woman for a weak insecure one. Maybe you should think about that. The Gemini literally stole you away from your childrens mother and now has the nerve to act like this? I honestly think she is a selfish brat.

I can understand the whole communication thing. As Geminis we like to have clear communication.. But you showed her the msgs, there is not much more you can do, you are trying and it just doesn't seem to be enough for her. I understand why you are confused and upset, I would be too. I remember telling you when you first started posting that unless your ex falls off the face of the earth, the Gemini is going to give you a hard time and be a headache. And obviously that hasn't changed, here we are months later and she is still punishing you for having an ex.. which is nothing you can control. She stole you from this woman, it almost sounds like she expected to also steal your kids and cut their mother out entirely and since that didn't happen she is punishing you. I don't know what the Gemini was expecting, but she knew what she was getting herself into and clearly can't hack it so she shouldn't have come in between you and your ex to begin with. She is selfish and you and your kids deserve more.

You will continue to do everything in your power to please her and it still won't be enough. You can already see that. You're gonna wear yourself out for nothing, cause she will leave eventually and it's no fault of yours. All she really wants is your ex out of the picture and that's NEVER gonna happen.. she seems to thinks she can force you into that though. But eventually she will realize that she can't force your ex out and she will just leave, so you will have put in all this effort and suffered this headache for nothing.


Very well said 👏 I have had enough all my family are telling me the same to ditch her she's no good she's skits.

I duno how to go about this with her. I love her and its so hard 😔.
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Hate to break it to you buddy, but this Gemini woman might be your Karma...You have been warned.

What makes you think this 🤔.

You left your childrens mother for this woman.

I don't disagree with Easha, this is how karma works.

@blackphvse

I did now I am getting constant games its exsuting why is she acting in this way is she getting kicks out of it I do not understand.

She tells me she wants to rebuild how is that rebuilding.
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LISTEN TO ME....SHE IS ONLY IN YOUR LIFE TO TEACH YOU A HARD LESSON. THIS IS HOW KARMA WORKS. SHE IS GOING TO LEAVE YOU, JUST LIKE YOU LEFT YOUR EX SAG..YOU WOULD KNOW IF A WOMAN WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY OUR HEAVENLY FATHER,BECAUSE SHE WILL FIT PERFECTLY INTO YOUR LIFE, BRINGING PEACE WITH HER. THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU ARE GETTING;YOU ARE GETTING FRUSTRATION AND CONFUSION.THE TOTAL OPPOSITE OF WHAT A BLESSING WOULD BRING..