Falling in love with someones Soul, Urban Myth?

This is not to call one person out specifically, who says it doesn't matter because its a common thing people seem to say they believe. But is it ever really true?

The comment was "BUT if I were to fall in love with someone's soul nothing else would matter." in reference to having a transgender relationship.

Now yes, I have fell in love with someones soul the essences of who ever they are, despite all of their shitty external problems. But the thing is those external issues, always seemed to trump what ever soul part of them i was in love with.

But my thing is we kinda idealize this concept, where we say someones soul is the only thing that matters, but then its hardly ever put into practice.

Opinions?

Posted by Impulsv
I agree love does not conquer all

I totally wish it did. But I don't think we can if we keep lying to ourselves about it.


Like if we acknowledged love doesn't conquer all, maybe it could conquer more.

If I had of come across this topic almost 2 years ago, I'd say, nope, not possible. However, I met a someone who... I still can't explain what happened but I'll describe it only as falling in love with this man's soul. We never dated, never had sex, never anything just light flirting but the experience with him has been life changing for me. I still think of him every now and again and despite .... well I'll just say, with all of his changes I still care for him on a level I've never known before. It's sort of like root g for someone from the shadows and they never even know just how much they mean/meant to you and your life.

So yes, I think it's quite possible.

There may be a point to this. After all, the soul is still there when the lights go dim/dark.

Posted by devilandthedancer
If I had of come across this topic almost 2 years ago, I'd say, nope, not possible. However, I met a someone who... I still can't explain what happened but I'll describe it only as falling in love with this man's soul. We never dated, never had sex, never anything just light flirting but the experience with him has been life changing for me. I still think of him every now and again and despite .... well I'll just say, with all of his changes I still care for him on a level I've never known before. It's sort of like root g for someone from the shadows and they never even know just how much they mean/meant to you and your life.

So yes, I think it's quite possible.

Yeah so I understand you experienced the first part of that. but that wasn't even enough to bring your souls together, so the idea of falling in love with someones soul is all you need doesn't apply here.

Posted by scorpx3
I don't think it's a myth... I've seriously thought about this. I can only speak from my own experience.

When I first met the guy I'm with, I wasn't initially physically attracted. It wasn't until I became friends with him that I really opened up to the idea of becoming more and more involved with him. After some time, I really fell for him.

Throughout knowing him, I've seen him at his best and worst. He's been too skinny or too bulky as well as he has been fit, really hurtful as much as he has been very understanding, sometimes yin and sometimes yang - so to speak. Throughout it all, I never stopped loving him. What kept me back was his neglectful nature at times, but I guess we're young and have our own lives and I shouldn't expect too, too much. That's besides the point...

My thing is, I did think it through and, after everything I went through with him, if it just so happened that he started to believe he was more feminine than he was masculine or if he had some identity issue, I wouldn't leave him because of that. It wouldn't turn me off at all. He's my best friend as much as he is someone who I love and fell for, so him being transgender wouldn't make me change my mind.

Those are just some thoughts... This was brief, I didn't want to write a whole novel...so, yeah... Hope this helps!

No. Just no, non of what you just said even apply to part of what i'm talking about.

If only anyone could actually define what this soul is, or more importantly, how it MANIFESTS itself in a person? Seen as we change throughout life, there's no such thing as a constant me, or an "original" me.

So whose "soul" we fall in love with depends mostly on where you are in your life, who you are at that point and what qualities/traits in another person seem relevant to you at that time. "Soulmates" are like seasons.

Unless you're talking about me, yes it's a myth

I don't think I could fall in love with Soul. I'm not gay and Soul can be very emotional sometimes @Soul. Not saying it's bad but you alright in my book 😉

Posted by Sn1p3r187
I don't think I could fall in love with Soul. I'm not gay and Soul can be very emotional sometimes @Soul. Not saying it's bad but you alright in my book 😉

Considering me good in in any book was your first mistake

Posted by Soul
Unless you're talking about me, yes it's a myth

Nobody is ever talking about you.

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Posted by Soul
Unless you're talking about me, yes it's a myth

Nobody is ever talking about you.

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You are right now.

So how ya been Rob?

Change that ever bloody tampon yet?

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Posted by enfant_terrible
If only anyone could actually define what this soul is, or more importantly, how it MANIFESTS itself in a person? Seen as we change throughout life, there's no such thing as a constant me, or an "original" me.

So whose "soul" we fall in love with depends mostly on where you are in your life, who you are at that point and what qualities/traits in another person seem relevant to you at that time. "Soulmates" are like seasons.

"We are not the same persons this year as last; nor are those we love. It is a happy chance if we, changing, continue to love a changed person."
- Somerset Maugham -

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Nicely put. Love and life in its bittersweet glory.

Posted by BG2
Question.
For those who don't believe in loving another's soul - I think this is the wrong term, though, it's too romanticized - then what do you fall in love with?

Their problems. Their flaws. Their weakness.

Especally if it's worse compared mine.

Why be miserable alone?

I do believe in a soul, as in our higher consciousness, the shit that connects us to all beings and things. Don't necessary believe or know if it lives on after our bodies die, and I don't really care.

There is a spot in all of our brains that is dedicated to all things spiritual, if it goes unused in your head, sorry for yeah.

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Question.
For those who don't believe in loving another's soul - I think this is the wrong term, though, it's too romanticized - then what do you fall in love with?

Their problems. Their flaws. Their weakness.

Especally if it's worse compared mine.

Why be miserable alone?

Don't all these things constitute one's soul/essence/who they are? Isn't it all the same thing?
That's the way I see it.

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Maybe.

What do I know?

I'm just a dumb nobody from the internet.

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Question.
For those who don't believe in loving another's soul - I think this is the wrong term, though, it's too romanticized - then what do you fall in love with?

Their problems. Their flaws. Their weakness.

Especally if it's worse compared mine.

Why be miserable alone?

Don't all these things constitute one's soul/essence/who they are? Isn't it all the same thing?
That's the way I see it.

Maybe.

What do I know?

I'm just a dumb nobody from the internet.

I gotta say, your username and the fact that you're ginger reminds me of South Park.
Cartman says they have no souls.
The irony...

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If I was ginger though lol

My hair is blond, chest hair is black, legs and arms blond, brows brown, and the only hair on me that's red is my beard lol.

Sorry if I ruined your vision :/

Posted by BG2
Question.
For those who don't believe in loving another's soul - I think this is the wrong term, though, it's too romanticized - then what do you fall in love with?

No one has yet defined what a soul is or how it manifests itself. The narrative seems to be "I think, i feel.. therefore I have a soul." Nahh bro

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Posted by Sn1p3r187
I don't think I could fall in love with Soul. I'm not gay and Soul can be very emotional sometimes @Soul. Not saying it's bad but you alright in my book 😉

Considering me good in in any book was your first mistake

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Hey. I said "alright". Not good.

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Posted by BG2
Question.
For those who don't believe in loving another's soul - I think this is the wrong term, though, it's too romanticized - then what do you fall in love with?

No one has yet defined what a soul is or how it manifests itself. The narrative seems to be "I think, i feel.. therefore I have a soul." Nahh bro

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Posted by Astrobyn
A soul, as in our higher consciousness, the shit that connects us to all beings and things. Don't necessary believe or know if it lives on after our bodies die, and I don't really care.

There is a spot in all of our brains that is dedicated to all things spiritual, if it goes unused in your head, sorry for yeah.

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Falling in love with someone's soul is very much possible, but that is most certainly not the thing which keeps people together.

In fact, a lot of hard work is required and the ability to have healthy disagreements to figure out the difference between two people yet come out with compromises which both would have to try at.

Is falling in love with someone's soul the end all and be all?

No. If anyone where to follow in that line of thinking, they would only end up with a string of lovers and no relationship.

Posted by MiZLeo
Just because you are not with a person anymore does not mean you stop loving that person. If you did, you didn't really love them in the first place. If my husband decided he wanted to be a woman, then I wouldn't stop loving him and being his friend. However, I did not marry a woman and him changing into a woman is breach of contract. I can no longer be physical with him so in essence he is forcing me to find another person. Would I divorce him? I guess that would depend on where I was in my life and if I wanted to marry another man. I would still love my husband and still value that friendship on an emotional level, but physically it does change things. It would take some therapy as well to help adjust with the change.

well that still really opposes the point and concept of;

"BUT if I were to fall in love with someone's soul nothing else would matter."

Posted by BG2
But like I told Soul, to me, your soul is who you are. It manifests itself in how you think, feel, behave.
Astrologically speaking, your chart is a visualization of who you are. Any progressed/transit chart is a representation of who you are at a given time.

The metaphysics of the soul is an interesting avenue to look into. Aristotle saw the soul as a separate entity/form inhabiting the body/vessel.

That's the best way I can put it.

ok well i totally disagree with that, but i'm not going to tell you your wrong, because that's your right to think that.

Posted by BG2
@Soul. I'm not a ginger basher 😆
I swear to god, when I saw your pic and user name, first thing that came to mind was south park. It seemed ironic to me and I thought you'd done that on purpose.

I believe you, but I'm going to rant about ginger bashers anyway lol!

Idk I just think it's stupid as fuck when people call a red haired person soulless.

Like where the hell did that originate from?

If anything those who go out of their way to pick fun at a person for any reason is soulless.

Red hair is sexy as fuck imo.

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But like I told Soul, to me, your soul is who you are. It manifests itself in how you think, feel, behave.
Astrologically speaking, your chart is a visualization of who you are. Any progressed/transit chart is a representation of who you are at a given time.

The metaphysics of the soul is an interesting avenue to look into. Aristotle saw the soul as a separate entity/form inhabiting the body/vessel.

That's the best way I can put it.

ok well i totally disagree with that, but i'm not going to tell you your wrong, because that's your right to think that.

Ok, then how do you see it?

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well i tend to side with the eastern philosophies of ego, which for the most part play a bigger role in governing what you think feel and how you behave. The person we define ourselves to be to ourselves and others.

but even if you look at it from a western POV, Christian's use sin as an excuse for all these things, bad thoughts, feels, deeds. And yet still see all those things separate from their relationship with god and who they really are, i.e. "even if I do all those bad things, god still knows I have a good heart."

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Posted by BG2
Question.
For those who don't believe in loving another's soul - I think this is the wrong term, though, it's too romanticized - then what do you fall in love with?

No one has yet defined what a soul is or how it manifests itself. The narrative seems to be "I think, i feel.. therefore I have a soul." Nahh bro

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enfant, but must everything be defined as such. How an individual perceives a soul affects whether or not they believe that in itself could uphold and sustain an entire relationship.

Posted by deedee85
This thread is in reference to my comment on another post. Perhaps I should explain what I meant by it.

In romantic relationships, physical attraction is what draws me in first. That is human nature and the same can be said about just about everyone.
That attractive person can become ugly real quick if they have a bad soul. By soul, I mean their personality, their passions and the way they treat others.
I have fallen in love with people that I didn't find attractive at first and perhaps wouldn't be considered conventionally attractive. I fell in love with who they were as a person.
The question on the other thread was regarding transgendered people. I stand by my answer. I am not attracted to them but that doesn't me I couldn't fall in love with someone and change my mind.

I think that is the difference and part of the confusion for me because I don't recognize those things as a persons soul.

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Posted by deedee85
This thread is in reference to my comment on another post. Perhaps I should explain what I meant by it.

In romantic relationships, physical attraction is what draws me in first. That is human nature and the same can be said about just about everyone.
That attractive person can become ugly real quick if they have a bad soul. By soul, I mean their personality, their passions and the way they treat others.
I have fallen in love with people that I didn't find attractive at first and perhaps wouldn't be considered conventionally attractive. I fell in love with who they were as a person.
The question on the other thread was regarding transgendered people. I stand by my answer. I am not attracted to them but that doesn't me I couldn't fall in love with someone and change my mind.

I think that is the difference and part of the confusion for me because I don't recognize those things as a persons soul.

So it is my choice of words?
I wasn't trying to be philosophical by any means.

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Like i said its not just about you and what you said, its a common thing that gets said by many.


But often times, people saying things they don't really mean, because its a common phrase. That maybe gets misused because people don't spend much time pondering what it really means to them.

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Posted by devilandthedancer
If I had of come across this topic almost 2 years ago, I'd say, nope, not possible. However, I met a someone who... I still can't explain what happened but I'll describe it only as falling in love with this man's soul. We never dated, never had sex, never anything just light flirting but the experience with him has been life changing for me. I still think of him every now and again and despite .... well I'll just say, with all of his changes I still care for him on a level I've never known before. It's sort of like root g for someone from the shadows and they never even know just how much they mean/meant to you and your life.

So yes, I think it's quite possible.

Yeah so I understand you experienced the first part of that. but that wasn't even enough to bring your souls together, so the idea of falling in love with someones soul is all you need doesn't apply here.

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Ye, I've experienced the same and I agree it's just the first part and is no where near genuinely falling in love with someone's soul.

I think it's rare for people to genuinely fall in love with someone's soul. You'd have to literally go through heaven and hell with 'em to achieve the conclusion that you're genuinely in love with their soul, their very essence, and that it's not just some serious infatuation. The illusions of infatuation must be tested.

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Posted by Impulsv
I agree love does not conquer all

I totally wish it did. But I don't think we can if we keep lying to ourselves about it.


Like if we acknowledged love doesn't conquer all, maybe it could conquer more.

Are you INTJ?

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idk i have to retake it, but on a totally separate note..... I found a quote to share with you...

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Posted by devilandthedancer
If I had of come across this topic almost 2 years ago, I'd say, nope, not possible. However, I met a someone who... I still can't explain what happened but I'll describe it only as falling in love with this man's soul. We never dated, never had sex, never anything just light flirting but the experience with him has been life changing for me. I still think of him every now and again and despite .... well I'll just say, with all of his changes I still care for him on a level I've never known before. It's sort of like root g for someone from the shadows and they never even know just how much they mean/meant to you and your life.

So yes, I think it's quite possible.

Yeah so I understand you experienced the first part of that. but that wasn't even enough to bring your souls together, so the idea of falling in love with someones soul is all you need doesn't apply here.

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Your question said nothing about 2 souls coming together. But after your response above I see you meant for this to be some sort of "soul mate" question. I don't believe in soul mates. Falling in love with someone's soul doesn't mean you have to/will end up with the person.

"But my thing is we kinda idealize this concept, where we say someones soul is the only thing that matters, but then its hardly ever put into practice."

Just because you may not be putting it into practice doesn't mean someone else isn't.

@devilandthedancer

Topic is kinda free form like all of my thoughts... I don't believe in soulmates myself.

initially i was struck with how people use the phrases like "If i fell in love with someones soul, nothing else would matter"

So i just wanted to put more thought into that idea, because its such a common thing people say they believe but it rarely seems true.

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Posted by Impulsv
I agree love does not conquer all

I totally wish it did. But I don't think we can if we keep lying to ourselves about it.


Like if we acknowledged love doesn't conquer all, maybe it could conquer more.

Are you INTJ?

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I tried to find it again to take it, but they deleted the test from okcupid, but i was ISFJ in 2012.

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Posted by Impulsv
I agree love does not conquer all

I totally wish it did. But I don't think we can if we keep lying to ourselves about it.


Like if we acknowledged love doesn't conquer all, maybe it could conquer more.

Are you INTJ?

I tried to find it again to take it, but they deleted the test from okcupid, but i was ISFJ in 2012.

Hmm ok

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Well this new test says i'm INTP now.

Posted by tiziani
Mostly I get INTJ. I just go with The Architect.

I just know every time it asked me about other peoples feelings i had a really strong reaction in towards the left direction of the scale.

Posted by starlover
I have connected deeply with people who i have no physical attraction to. I feel it is a soul connection and it feels very strong

It goes beyond the ordinary attraction of fancying someone

So what @MlleFisk said.

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Posted by BG2
Question.
For those who don't believe in loving another's soul - I think this is the wrong term, though, it's too romanticized - then what do you fall in love with?

No one has yet defined what a soul is or how it manifests itself. The narrative seems to be "I think, i feel.. therefore I have a soul." Nahh bro

enfant, but must everything be defined as such. How an individual perceives a soul affects whether or not they believe that in itself could uphold and sustain an entire relationship.

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No, as an agnostic I can accept there are things I don't know, cannot comprehend or define. It is for the same reason those things don't really interest me unless I can examine them either "scientifically" or through my senses ( I have the utmost confidence in mine.. even 'under the influence') .

But this discussion isn't really interesting unless we can agree on how a soul manifests itself to the outside world... or else we cannot really seperate the soul from what can already be defined in more established terms in your behavioral science of choice.

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Posted by BG2
Question.
For those who don't believe in loving another's soul - I think this is the wrong term, though, it's too romanticized - then what do you fall in love with?

No one has yet defined what a soul is or how it manifests itself. The narrative seems to be "I think, i feel.. therefore I have a soul." Nahh bro

Are you looking for something along the lines of whether or not the soul is eternal? Cause I don't know.
But like I told Soul, to me, your soul is who you are. It manifests itself in how you think, feel, behave.

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The only thing that's there BEFORE we are conditioned by our environment /upbringing /experiences... are our genes. Those in turn determine how we respond to the various types of conditions and trials througout life. So mind over "soul" for me, unless you'd care to define your genes as your soul.

I don't feel like I have a soul, and I can't see it in others either. Once you scrape the surface, people all pretty alike and predictible all over, like you can set your watch to their thoughts, actions and behavior.

The uniqueness of a person rests mainly on the interplay between their genes and the environment. That's beautiful and amazing in itself.

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Hipster nonsense

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Hipster nonsense

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maybe because a soul isn't enough

hey @capricornmoon

how much money do you usually look for in a soul before you fall in love?

Posted by Taureye
Love in essence two parts imo, especially when it comes to loving the soul of another. One being the attractions and the safeness you feel in loving that soul, because they accept you for the most part if not all of you. The second being the projection of what we expect from loving, which would be the emotions of gratitude and a sense of "completion". I'm a preacher of love, but unfortunately love is not the end all be all, once that bubble (honeymoon phase) pops whether you two went anywhere relationship wise thats when you really have to see can you really love that soul? You accepted them and they accepted you, but as time goes on your flaws become exposed as does theirs, not that they weren't before but now that the mist of that initial love phase has lifted many people cant see themselves with someone they were head over heels in love with because they were in essence in love with the idea of loving and being loved and not necessarily that person. Now can love be enough for some people? Yes. There is not clear cut answer of yes and no here, just depends on your time and place. Now lets say you find your true love, maybe love is enough here, or maybe just maybe you both reciprocate emotions like mature adults and work through your issues regardless of them being superficial or not. At the end it's what both of you put in, one person can put in a 100% of their love, while the other won't. In this case eventually something will happen to make one person split the bond. So here love isn't enough. But again no direct yes or no, but in todays society unfortunately, more NO than Yes.

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what does this have to do with the topic?

Why do you consider yourself a preacher of love?
You know I just find it a special mix of arrogance and ignorance to go around thinking you have an intention to teach other beings.

And after reading your thoughts, I'm convinced you know very little on the subject of which you speak. It's all sounds like very contrived and generic ideas, that people typically use as an excuse to explain things they experienced but don't fully understand.

Lmfao! To think that it's so hard for people to even imagine there may in fact be no such thing as a soul, especially since no one can even agree on wtf a soul is..which this thread clearly shows. Yet, to some it's as real as an arm or a leg.

If we're talking literally about souls...then I don't think you can love someone's soul unless you fully know and understand what a soul is. Considering science cannot prove the existence of souls, we still know nothing about it. We can theorize...but, that's it.

In a less literal sense, I still don't think you can love someone's 'soul'. My idea for this one is that unless you know someone utterly and completely that you cannot love their soul. And, you cannot know someone utterly and completely. You can't. Unless you think with their mind, move with their body, experience everything they've experienced since their earliest memory...you just can't.

You don't have to know everything about a person in general to love them, but then that's not the same thing as going to the extreme of saying you love their soul.

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Posted by HouseCleaning
hey @capricornmoon

how much money do you usually look for in a soul before you fall in love?

LMAO..



A house worth a mill
A massarrati but a bimmer will do
A boat
A diamond

My man gotta have ALL THAT AND SOME

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how much putting out do you plan to do with your golden vag?

To me, loving someone's soul is an exchange of energy. I don't even have to know the person or have a prolonged interaction with them - sometimes I love someone for love's sake or God's sake. For example, I work at the library. A girl once came in, and she and I just gave each other the biggest smiles as though we knew one another. I loved everything about her: her red eyeglasses, her spotted dress, her brightly painted nails, her aura and the energy she exuded. She and I interacted briefly and talked books. I loved her. I genuinely wished her well.

To love someone's soul does not require much effort. It does not require romantic feelings. It does not require time or frequency. It's simply a human experience and one that I wish to experience as often as possible.

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Posted by HouseCleaning
hey @capricornmoon

how much money do you usually look for in a soul before you fall in love?

LMAO..



A house worth a mill
A massarrati but a bimmer will do
A boat
A diamond

My man gotta have ALL THAT AND SOME

how much putting out do you plan to do with your golden vag?

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Not much, golden vag's do the least amount of work, if your vag is loose and sloppy, he makes you split half the bills. No 50-50 in these parts...

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what do you got hiding there to trade for all that?

I went to the Longwood Gardens with my boyfriend the day before yesterday. I was in love with the flowers, the squirrels, the trees, the running water...why limit what you can fall in love with. The environment overwhelmed me with humility. Perhaps I am wrong to say it's a human experience because that may imply that only human-to-human interactions can lead to loving the soul. But it can also be human-to-animal or human-to-other parts of nature.

There was this moment when my boyfriend sat me down in a narrow hallway. There was a seating area by the restrooms. He asked me to close my eyes; what happened next was incredible: a cacophony of sounds reverberating in my ears. I was able to shift my hearing focus depending on what I wanted to tune in to. We sat like that for quite sometime. In that moment, I felt connected to everything around me. I heard conversations, children laughing, footsteps, chairs dragging, water running, and feelings.

There are also moments I just touch foreheads with him. I inevitably close my eyes and inhale and exhale slowly. I feel rested and genuinely peaceful. My physical body seems to just melt away with no edges or limits. Gosh, I could stay there forever, but it's important that I return to a state of physical awareness. In those moments, I feel him. I love him, not for anything else but for who he is.